To this day I feel my heart throb when I hear the word Jasenovac. Orally it has been passed down to me that my great grandfather a Serb from Sarajevo was taken prisoner there, leaving my great grandmother behind to watch 5 children alone. It was mentioned to us by someone who had escaped that she saw him there, his beautiful lush hair was patchy from it being pulled out. My family to this day keeps track of where the family that took my grandfather to the camp is located, we were always told to stay away from a Serbian area in Sarajevo. What plagues me the most is that I just recently was able to confirm with my own eyes the proof that he actually lived in that hell camp, I cried when I saw his number. I didn’t experience that hell but something in my heart and soul feels the misery in a profound way. I am now dedicating a lot of my free time in researching and finding out more information about my great grandfather, I simply wish that we can bring his body home, to his loving family. ❤
The entire history of this genocide is made more horrific and madding by the denial of the events. The Jasenovac camp and the collaboration of catholic church is unknown in the United States. In fact Ustaša Nazi collaborator Cardinal Aloysius Stepinac was martyred and beatified by Pope John Paul II. The "Blessed Aloysius Stepinac Catholic Church" still exists in Chicago, Illinois despite his conviction of treason and collaboration with the Ustaše regime. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloysius_Stepinac
Hi Aleksandra, I'm so sorry to hear this. I am a Serb from Dalmatia. I haven't lived there since the war back in nineties. I did visit though. I have bean researching Jasenovac recently including the list of people that got murdered. I found there was a man from my village that got murdered in the camp. I don't know the family he belonged to as I haven't lived there after the war. It is sad they haven't learned much from this. Back in nineties they went to multiple Serbian villages and committed massacres where they killed everyone who stayed. The world isn't talking about it at all and to this day noone is found responsible for these crimes. I was young at the time but I still remember some things.
My parents survived Jasenovac, neither my mother who passed last year nor my father could ever forget that living hell. I never got the opportunity to know my grandfathers or many of my relatives that were slaughtered there. To this day the assholes in Croatia do not acknowledge their crime there. My mother and father were both given token payments by the German government at least they recognised their role there. Both my parents dispersed that money to family and friends as both my mother and father could not live with the knowledge having that money that was paid for in blood.
According to the International Truth Commission on Jasenovac, which has no representatives from either Croatian or Serb territory, more than 700,000 Serbs, 23,000 Jews and 80,000 Roma died in the Jasenovac system of Croatian concentration camps, of whom more than 110 000 children up to 14 years of age. The breakthrough of the camp began in April 1945 with about 1,000 (some sources state 970), and only about 90 of them survived the breakthrough.
My grandmother and great grandmother survived that hell close by. They used to beat my great grandma asking where her husband is to kill him because he was a Partizan Soldier, but luckily they survived it all. The horrors and atrocities were great. Words cannot even begin to explain how all this went down. I myself survived the 90s war. It’s insane to think last 4 generations in my family have gone through wars. Crazy I now live in Los Angeles and get to tell my kids about it. 😢 shit is wildddd NEVER FORGET NEVER FORGIVE!!!
@@Helvlad Megalomani ,manijaci ,primitivci ,turski vazali .Imate 70 % tursko- ciganske krvi ,zato i jeste tako agresivni i nemirni .To radi anadolsko - saracensko- romski gen .Lopovi ,samo se za tudje hvatate ,mitomani .Imali nacionalna skupina na podrucju ex Ju ,koja vas voli ? Nema.U ratu ste sa svima ,pa cak i sa "okom u glavi ",Crnogorcima 😊. Mi Hrvati jesmo Srbi ,to jest Slaveni ,ali nismo ta mjesavina cigana , turaka i slavena . Zato su vas lupali batovima .
The Serbs lost 1 out of very 9 Serbs in the world population, where the Jews lost 1 out of 20 in the world Jewish population due to genocide during the WWII, ,and the entire Jewish population of Croatia and Bosnia was eliminated, 186,000.. People deny what happens for a number of reasons, could be for hatred, fear of reprisal, just to deny for no reason. i am an American-Serb and have many friends that are American-Croatian and if it weren't for the good people of Croatia and Serbia there would have many more people slaughtered in WWII and in the recent 1990's conflict.
Seems to me most of the denial comes from the Croatian emigre community in places like Australia, Argentina (less so now as their numbers have dropped) and the USA and Canada. These communities existed long before WWII but many, many Ustashe went overseas on the so called ratlines and almost all of them were set up by people inside the Catholic Church. Thus they became a sizeable component of the emigre community and some of them are very online looking to rehabilitate the Ustasha movement. I have my own controversial opinions here (the 700,000 is not correct it's Titoite propaganda and most historians accept this), but if I had to guess a lot of the pro-Ustasha comments from these communities probably comes from not wanting to admit that grandpa or great grandpa was a war criminal. Hence the constant revisionist views of established facts and outright denial of information that would make their ancestors look like the monsters many of them were.
Zoran Cvetkovic Slobodno mozes na nasem ako hoces, ja sve rezumem. Ja cu na angleskom samo zasto mi je lakse. I have been learning about balkan history and i am really interested! From what I have learned Raska (Old Serbia) and Croatia were the first countries to emerge out of the roman empire. For many years, until the ottoman invasion, Serbs and Croats were close from what I understand. Croatian kings would marry their daughters to Serbian princes and vice-versa in order to create strong bonds. They were good with each other until the ottoman invasions that separated us. Serbia and Bosnia became an autonomous region in the ottoman empire and Croatia and Slovenia became an autonomous region in the Austro-Hungarian empire. The earliest point of conflict that I could find was when Serbians were given land in the Krajina region as a buffer against ottoman invasion. The Serbs were given a good deal of land, self-governance, forced to pay less tax than the Croatians and Slovenians and were given freedom to practise the orthodox religion. This was much more than the Croatians and Slovenians of the region were given and so they (more the croatians than the slovenians) began to cause problems for the Serbians living there. But I cant see that escalating into full blown hatred! The problems must have started after WW1 during the existence of the Krajlevina Srba, Hrvata i Slovenaca. It makes the most sense to me that the problems started during that time period because when u consider the fact that two groups of people who have been living in different empires for hundreds of years are now for the first time in a long time reuniting! Well than of course there will be tension because both groups have changed over the years. Serbs probably adapted some ottoman characteristics that the Croatians saw as beneath them and therefore slowly, over the course of the years leading up to WW2, the Croatians began to see Serbians as inferior. This is only my guess from what I learned with the limited information available to me. I would love to hear your opinion. The more I learn about this stuff the more nostalgic I feel for old Yugoslavia even though I was not alive during its existence. I looked up the DNA makeup of the balkans and found that Serbians and Croatians share almost identical DNA except for a few small differences (which is only normal when you consider the many different groups of people that have migrated through that region). Since it is clear that both Serbians and Croatians come from the same source I have a very difficult time in understanding how they are so divided today! It is very sad that it is like this because neither Serbia nor Croatia will ever be as strong on their own as they can be together. In todays world we clearly see large powers forming (EU, US, EURASIA) and carving up the world for their own agendas. EU pulling on one side and EURASIA pulling on the other and we let them tear us apart! Very sad! I think what needs to happen there is that both Croatians and Serbians need to experience other mentalities of the world in order to learn to appreciate the similarities they share between each other. That way they can understand that it is always better to be together than apart. Our division only benefits foreign interests and only hurts us.
Matic500 T he Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, established in 1918, did not obtain the confirmation and permission of the Croatian Parliament. This state, created in 1918 from the Austro-Hungarian part, (Slovenia, Croatia,Vojvodina, Bosnia-Herzegovina) and Serbia and Montenegro, which wereopposing sides during the First World War (1914-1918), contained a germ of numerous future conflicts. It was composed of different traditions, religions, nations, languages and scripts. At that time the region of Vojvodina did not include Srijem (the territory between rivers Sava and Danube), that before 1918 belonged to Croatia. Vojvodina belonged to Hungary before 1918. The idea of Yugoslavia was in fact the best opportunity for Serbian nationalists to create the Greater Serbia, which was completed in 1918 according to the 1844 secret program. Montenegro lost its independence in 1918 after being brutally annexed to Serbia. The independence of Montenegro was regained in 1945 within the Tito's Yugoslavia. The whole property of the Austro-Hungarian state and booty was confiscated by the Serbian authorities. Immediately after 1918 all the leading positions in the army were seized by Serbian officers, who treated Croatia as a hostile territory in the common state (it was publicly declared in 1919!). On the other hand, it was presented to Europe as if the Croats had entered willingly the union with Serbia. The Serbian legislature, juridical and military 19th century law was simply implemented into the new state without changes and without consultations with the Croats. It resulted in unbearable terror and persecutions of Croatian peasants and intellectuals. Croatian teachers were retired and persecuted. Equally difficult was the economic terror of the Belgrade government. The Croats were not proportionally represented in the government and diplomatic corps. The old currencies - Serbian dinars and Croatian (Austrian) crowns, which in 1918 had the same value, were in 1919 changed for the new dinar in the following ratio: 1 dinar = 4 crowns! On the other hand, taxes were lower in Serbiathe major part of foreign loans was spent in Serbia, high administrative posts were filled exclusively with the Serbs (civil servants in Croatia were appointed by the central administration in Belgrade). Very cruel persecutions of the Muslims by the Serbs resulted in their massive emigration to Turkey soon after the foundation of Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes in 1918, where Serbia was the leading and privileged nation. The same happened to several hundred thousand Muslims soon after the Second World War. We have witnessed the same persecutions since 1992. Only in the first half of 1992 about 250,000 Croats and Muslims were exiled from Bosnia to Croatia, as an adding to its own 350,000 citizens exiled from the occupied areas. One of the most outstanding and most popular personalities in the Croatian political history was Stjepan Radic (1871-1928), the leader of the Croatian Peasant Party, assassinated in the Yugoslav parliament in Belgrade (capital of present Serbia) in 1928 together with his colleagues. The assassination was organized at the Royal court in Belgrade. Radic strived to renew the Croatian sovereignty and the economic and cultural emancipation of Croatia. He wanted the state of the Southern Slavs to be reorganized on confederative basis, without Serbian hegemony.
Sky Isblue totally right, religion is absolutely the only difference between Serbs and Croats and the only reason for all deaths and divide. For example Italy is clear example, it was until 19th century split in numerous states and it only survived so far united because it is whole Catholic while differences between regional differences are much bigger compared to ex Yugoslavia.
serbs brought it on themselves by oppressing croats before ww2 only few hundreds serbian soldiers were tortured and killed in jasenovac so it isn't even all that horrific as their propaganda shows.
29 members of my family were murdered there. My grandfather finished the war with no mother, no father, no sisters, brothers, anyone: only him alone survived
@@squ4t343 just read the book 'convert or die' by edmund paris - you'll learn everything you need to know about the ustashi, who created them and their horrific crimes against Christian Serbs
Our love story was born this dark time.. brave people connected to fight the nazi regime. Our last generation has payed lot of blood to fight for freedom. Our 1990 politics brought us back to 1941.. I miss the times, we liked each other.. 30 years after war, it doesn`t feel like peace.. just someone we used to know.
I’ve only known about Jasenovac today after watching Dara of Jasenovac movie. Like all the crimes against humanity committed by the Nazi officers and soldiers, my heart sunk as I was watching the this movie and learned the horrible crimes they’ve committed in Jasenovac. How can all these evil people sleep or slept at night before death caught up with them is unbelievable. All these horrible crimes must be prevented from happening at all cost. Although sadly wars and genocide and ethnic cleansing still happen to this day there’s no excuse for us all to not stand against fascists and strongmen! May all the victims’ souls rest in peace! Never forget! Never again!!
@@flayedface4462 o cemu ti sad palamudis, jel covjek lijepo objasnio sta i kako...neka vrate nasu arhivu i gotovo...sta oni imaju prisvajat nasu arhivu...koji su kurac oni u BG...ajmo...let us get back our archive ww2 from Croatia and all thing will be more clearly.
oh I see ... yugo regime did'nt ask for Dinko Sakic 50 years or so and that's fine, but Croatia must charge him at once, if not it must be a nazi state ... isn't that double standards?
Why hate anyone. Everyone should leave everyone else alone as we are all members of the human race and I do not think it matters who our higher power is as long as we are all loving and kind to others of the human race!
Karen Callison true and i dont hate anyone but now you see why serbs hate croats... maybe if they admit and recognize and finally apologize maybe things would be diffrent.
You have to know that we are not colonial empires or anything like that. We have huge history of war's,but we didn't attack nobody. Our home is in crossing ways to east and west empires that attack bus and we have never surrender to those who was stronger. MANY OF SERBS DON'T know thing that 7 Rome empire kings are birth on SERBIAN territory. From that information,something must be interesting about Serbian population. NIKOLA TESLA perhaps greater and most intelligent person who ever live in near history isn't British,Spanish,Greece but he was SERBIAN. This is something that little bit of population of world know,Albert Abstain didn't make famous formula, that was one of work by his wife SERBIAN women Mileva!!! But it's much better to be AUSTRIAN then SERBIAN in that time. We were on Ottoman empire almost five hundred years and they didn't upgrade their lives for all of that time,you can imagine how much SERBIAN orthodox Christian people could be progressive if they rule at our territory. We have one big fighting with Turkish empire in 1389. on Kosovo field. They come with 50-70 thousand soldiers and we have only 20-30 thousand soldiers and that was all of Serbian man population. But we are famous in battles so someone in France ring the bells for our victory but other side Turkish,that after 10-15 years take over our queens place and next almost 500 years stay at our territory and many other countries that they concord. I didn't told that wr killed their empire Sultan Murat and his son Jakub,but we also lost king and best knights of that time in Europe. In present time I must remind you about our famous NOVAK DJOKOVIC who is probably GOAT at tennis and he plays like 10 years ago. Think about that he won AUSTRALIAN OPEN 9 times. Last year they didn't allow him to play because he didn't want to take COVID injection of antivirus. That was reason to deported him from Australia and somebody else vin tournament. But you have any idea what was real reason to make such a decision to not allow him playing tennis!? He was healthy and prepared to take another Salem. Conspiracy was that they would be changed name of Arena in Australia from Rod Leiver (don't know how write name of mr. Rod) in case that Novak Djokovic win again that is ten times in his tennis player life time,so Arena change name in to NOVAK DJOKOVIC. If on his place was for example Federer Australia let him to play even with Covid positive test results. You can be sure about this and there is so many similar problems because we didn't change our religion and didn't give our land to be taken of Serbia and another state America and Germany make from our south part of country where we have 1365'churches and other things that belong to Serbian history. That part we call Kosovo and Metohia. In that last 100 years Albanian people who come to Balkans from Kavkaz multiple people like they are going to become Chinese and they are in that part of Serbia more than us. They have all kind of rights and freedoms that nobody give them,but they wanted to make new state Kosovo. They even make terrorist organization and financing it from Swiss and Germany were most of family who have 12 son's,half of them send to Europe countries (Swiss and Germany) to working there and send money back to home. Some part of them are honest working people and bigger part is drug selling on the streets and money of drugs also going to place where they buy weapons and other equipment. In Albania that we border with Serbia someone steal weapons and bullets from military facilities in Albania and after several months send into Serbia territory,because that is border in the top of mountains whit hard territory to monitoring 24/7 in those years(98-99). And after they killed many policemen,we can't looking at terrorists so we started anti terrorist operation. Their terrorist organization UÇK (Kosovo liberation army) unit spring of 98. was on same list like Al Qaida and other ,that Americans put there for a reason. But everything changed in the spring of 98. when they fighting for Albanian rights,what was absurd. That was not approved about taking millions of dollars to be against Serbia and our military,police and civilians. We know that Medley Olbrit take most of money and then she give oder important people in US political scene. Also we (,inteliget service) knows that one of terrorists "make a love" whit that women and after we finished war with Nato forces,she overtake Telecom from Serbia and make private company,also chif general of American and Nato forces, take over mining rear metals and other things that belong to Serbia and we will be again on our graveyards and churches even must waiting for next thousand years in future. But thet can be able to make next year. We are small and whiteout background,so if Russia defeat Nato In Ukraine ,that will be green light for attacking and retaking our land full of Serbian blood
What about this…im bosnian serb, the Ustase came one day to my grandfather’s village and picked up my grandfather’s father, while they were walking through the village road there was a 10 years old my grandfather’s brother who saw his father taken by ustase and asking him “father where are you going?”, the Ustase asked my great grandfather “is this your son?”, he said “yes it is”, than ustase said “ok little one,come with us”, my family found their bodies later under the bridge, they were both shot dead. And yes, the ustase were bosnian muslims, they were in ustase too, i hope this explains a bit why we serbs were rough to them in the 90s wars.
Contrary to what CNN claims in the video, it was originally made for wheat. It wasn't the first, or last time an agricultural tool was misused for slaughtering people.
I wrote this text in memory of all decesead back in those gloomy days, specially the children, innocent targets of other's hate. They didn't know about the ambitions of conquest, supremacy and dominium over others. Didn't know about religious thruth or lie. Could not differentiate between good and evil. Still they were the proeminent victims of men's wickedness. I did not know that the "valiant" Ustasha "fought" the war in this way. I only knew from the top, of the prison camp at Jasenovac. I am speechless ... But a great deal of anger, and sadness, is taking over me. My father is a native of Split and fought with Tito's partisans, like many others. My mom is from Dubrovnik. She was Serbian and orthodox. I was born in what is now Serbia and I am baptized orthodox. My father fled Yugoslavia and took my mother and me by the advent of the Communism. So I have relatives in Croatia and a few others in Serbia. What happened in World War II, in my opinion, must be forgotten. Hate breeds more hatred ... and it never ends. I hope that the new generation will not be influenced by these stories so as not to hold a grudge and, who knows, in the future there may be more peace in the region. Times are different now. I know how difficult it is to "forget" these events, this bestiality, this horrible lack of humanity. And forgive. I cannot forgive the Ustasha or the Nazis. Even so, I will not pass these stories on to my children. They better not know. They better not grow up with hatred in their hearts. These videos, whether from Serbs or Croats, should not be shown. This is not information. This is the spread and perpetuation of hatred. It does no one any good and poisons the soul and the heart. My parents, both already deceased, never told me much about this subject. I, as a regular history reader, had known for years about the rivalry between the Serbian and Croat tribes. I knew there was conflict and I had a reasonable knowledge of the subject. I didn't know, however, about the horrible details that appear in several videos, which I confess, I don't have the heart to watch. I want to forget. I advise everyone to forget and above all, do not talk to your children. Don't relay hatred. This has to end.
Well billy, you are wrong. Jasenovac and ndh must never ever be forgoten. Wisit croatia and you will see that croats are revisioning history, letter U is written on walls as grafiti, they wanted to make stepinac a martyr but the pope didnt allow it, every year there is an attack or two on serbs in croatia. When eu and zda power and interest in the balkans fade, the serbs will f.ck the croats up. And i hope good.
This is not spreading hatred this TELLING THE WORLD THE TRUTH TO PREVENT THESE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN. Silence will be the weapon of those who want to commit such crimes in the future for without us and the next generation learning what horrible things mankind can do to one another this is will just be a never ending cycle. This story should not be forgotten and so are the names of all their victims! Never again, never forget! ✊🏼🤍
Interestingly, the people who tell us the story of the Balkans and the Second World War, make it the biggest genocide in history!!!! First learn your history, then learn ours. In the Balkans, we have older beer than your country!!! Can you find Europe or a part of Europe such as the Balkans on the world map? Can you even find your country or province on the world map? when you learn all that, we can have a little discussion. Until then, leave us Balkans alone, as much as we Balkans hate each other, we love each other, you will never understand that. Please don't interfere in something you don't understand.
My grandmother was in jasenovac..She as all the others, just do not want to talk about that..They want to forget!! God knows, world is not important! There is God!
@@taya1584 is the mith that croatia was 1 of 5 fasists in ww2 along with Germany, Japan, Spain, Italya...Poor croat buthers...You croats are si brave to lieve the comments and then to erase them, ahahaha....God knows all about you, unfortunately!
@EL KAIZER this can only be said by an ignorant person or one who has no idea about the history of the independent state of croatia from the period of the second world war
@AUGUSTUS According to the International Truth Commission on Jasenovac, which has no representatives from either Croatian or Serb territory, more than 700,000 Serbs, 23,000 Jews and 80,000 Roma died in the Jasenovac system of Croatian concentration camps, of whom more than 110 000 children up to 14 years of age. The breakthrough of the camp began in April 1945 with about 1,000 (some sources state 970), and only about 90 of them survived the breakthrough.
I dont know which organisation is worse the nazis or the roman catholic church. Sadly my mother was both. She was just an ignorant girl growing up in Hilters Austria she was 10 years old when hitler came to power her mother was a single mother trying to put food on the table for 3 kids so was rarely there so my mother found her family as a girl in the roman catholic teachers and the nazi party. sure there are some decent members in the roman catholic church but the organisation seems corrupt from its head to its toes .
I really dont hate on Serbian and American women/girls,i just had to throw it out there so all can see this beautiful comment. ❤️😍 We know THEIR guys dont hate our women/girls,proven in the wars………..
my grandmother was from slovenia and my mother was an austrian nazi sadly. how anyone would like to visit anywhere in yugoslavia is a mystery even though from a scenery point of view it is lovely.
I come from western Europe, spent 6 months in Slovenia, LJ and visited all of balkans. Except Bosnia and eastern parts of Croatia i saw no signs of the war. This region is beautiful and people are friendly. Perfect European destination for cheap vacation.
@@coldfire4369 if you think the world has heard the last of the croat, serb, slovene and bosnian troubles then i think you are the last remaining optimist in europe.
@@ricdavid7476 I never said that there wouldn't be another conflict but i highly doubt that. Slovenia and Croatia are EU now first of all. And right now it's calm there. It's even more peaceful that France criminality rate is so low. Don't compare Slovenia Bosnia Croatia to Kosovo lol
I hope you are right the last time I was there and I travelled the length of the country was in the 80,s and it had a veneer of calm with a terrible under current of unrest I think that is the current position and with the eu on its knees that is no guarantee of anything sadly
@@ricdavid7476 You can't compare the balkans from the 80's with the balkans from nowadays. No one there wants another war. People might hate eachother but there wont be another war.
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Hi I'm from Croatia.I found this lecture very informative.I am from a Croatian Partisan Antifascist family. I was also a victim of the 90's war and had to live 4 years im exile when Serbia attacked Croatia.War caught me when i was 14.I didnt even know what my ethnicity was because the ethinicty wasnt even important in Yugoslavia.3 months after i heard what I was,my and my family were evicted from our home by Serbian forces and my childhood friend was killed There are just a few things i wanted to add to this video First and foremost Croatian people never voted for the Ustasa regime.Those idiots took power.Croats never voted them in. I dont know a single person in my region who supports them or thinks positivly of them Second there were at least 250.000 Croatian antifascist soldiers who fought against the Germans,The Ustase,Fasist Italy and Serbian Chetniks.My grandfathers fought them all ! The 1st Antifascist Squardon in Europe was founded in Croatia in 1941 in Sisak.The 1st Sisak Brigade and they attacked the Germans the same day Our first president the late Franjo Tuđman was a great antifascist fighter and a general in Josip Broz Tito's army who was Croatian as well.The whole leadership of Yugoslav partisan antifascists were Croatian Many many Croats fought against Nazism,but there is also massive Serbian nationalist propaganda movement that tries to paint all Croats as Nazis I think that is wrong because of that propaganda i became a victim of a war myself And last thing i want to add is that Jasenovac camp was in use untill 1952.The communists used the Jasenovac camp for 7 years after the war for nazis and their own political opponents.So i would really like some kind of neutral commition to take place so we know all historical facts without any nationalist propaganda I would also like to add that more then 5000 antifascist Croats were killed in Jasenovac camp Oh... And .... There was a breaktrough from the Jasenovac camp and the organiser and the leader of that breaktrough was also a Croat.His name was Anto Bakotić.He saved a lot of prisoners that day
@@aleksandratesanovic9975 What???How? Im just saying that there thousands and thousands of Croats who were anti fascist and fought against the Nazis.Including my family. I dont understand how you got that idea?
@@aleksandratesanovic9975 And I don't remember half of Germany being antifascist and fighting the Nazis... What you are doing is generalizing.Dismissing someones opinion on the basis of their ethnicity...Which is the definition of fascism!!!
Serbia did not attack Croatia back in the nineties. Croats started the war as they first wanted to get independence from Yugoslavia, that's where it all started. Serbs never attacked you. I come from Krajina. I was a kid at the time and my family had to flee for our lives because Croats attacked us civilians. Croats burned 30000+ Serbian houses, schools, churches, they bombed kids while trying to evacuate, they went from village to village killing everyone who stayed. Multiple massacres happened in Serb villages, Varivode, Golubic etc. Some were killed in front of their family members. I am not dismissing what you are saying and that you and your family went through things but don't tell people lies that Serbs attacked you because Serbs did not attack. It was Croats that wanted independence and then attacked Serbian populated areas as they couldn't get independence with the little area they lived in.
Croats also died in Jasenovac, so Serbs do not have any exclusivity, which you wanted so much. Serbia no longer has and cannot beat the Croats on the head with Jasenov, especially after the fact that Serbia was condemned for GENOCIDE by the INTERNATIONAL COURT right after Hitler's Germany. With Jasenov, Serbia masks its own shame of GENOCIDE and war crimes in the 90s. Croats, keep your heads up, don't fall for Serbian propaganda! ❤
Srbi su POSEBNO ubijani.To govori broj ubijenih Srba i posebno nacin na koji su ubijani.Previse je snimala iz tog doba,previse dokumenata i dosta svjedoka.Nije to nesto sto se desilo prije 500 god.Zadnji rat vam je dobrodosao iz vise razloga…kako je sam Tudjman rekao..bez rata nema lijepe nase,misleci na to da se mora ukinuti konstitutivnost Srba a to se moglo samo ratom.Dr razlog vam je kao i Nijemcima prirastao posebno srcu…Da se sto vise potisne istina da su vase drzave bile otvoreno rasisticke i antisemitske.Dnevne stampe iz tog doba koliko hoces u kojima se otvoreno govori o Jevrejina i Srbima kao neljudima koji se moraju pobiti.Srbi napravili Srebrenicu ali bar nisu klali bebe u kolijevkama i nisu bili rasisti.Zlo je zlo ali ovo sa rasizmom je zaista samo leglo najveceg ljudskog zla.
That's what's wrong with nationalist apologetics, long before these ppl where Croats or Serbians they are human beings and no amount of whataboutism or claiming its propaganda excuses the genocide.
To this day I feel my heart throb when I hear the word Jasenovac. Orally it has been passed down to me that my great grandfather a Serb from Sarajevo was taken prisoner there, leaving my great grandmother behind to watch 5 children alone. It was mentioned to us by someone who had escaped that she saw him there, his beautiful lush hair was patchy from it being pulled out. My family to this day keeps track of where the family that took my grandfather to the camp is located, we were always told to stay away from a Serbian area in Sarajevo. What plagues me the most is that I just recently was able to confirm with my own eyes the proof that he actually lived in that hell camp, I cried when I saw his number. I didn’t experience that hell but something in my heart and soul feels the misery in a profound way. I am now dedicating a lot of my free time in researching and finding out more information about my great grandfather, I simply wish that we can bring his body home, to his loving family. ❤
The entire history of this genocide is made more horrific and madding by the denial of the events. The Jasenovac camp and the collaboration of catholic church is unknown in the United States. In fact Ustaša Nazi collaborator Cardinal Aloysius Stepinac was martyred and beatified by Pope John Paul II. The "Blessed Aloysius Stepinac Catholic Church" still exists in Chicago, Illinois despite his conviction of treason and collaboration with the Ustaše regime.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloysius_Stepinac
@@tartgreenapple I'm speechless 🥺😩
Nice story, almost sounds believable
Hi Aleksandra, I'm so sorry to hear this. I am a Serb from Dalmatia. I haven't lived there since the war back in nineties. I did visit though. I have bean researching Jasenovac recently including the list of people that got murdered. I found there was a man from my village that got murdered in the camp. I don't know the family he belonged to as I haven't lived there after the war. It is sad they haven't learned much from this. Back in nineties they went to multiple Serbian villages and committed massacres where they killed everyone who stayed. The world isn't talking about it at all and to this day noone is found responsible for these crimes. I was young at the time but I still remember some things.
Jasenovac je bio radni logor
My parents survived Jasenovac, neither my mother who passed last year nor my father could ever forget that living hell. I never got the opportunity to know my grandfathers or many of my relatives that were slaughtered there. To this day the assholes in Croatia do not acknowledge their crime there. My mother and father were both given token payments by the German government at least they recognised their role there. Both my parents dispersed that money to family and friends as both my mother and father could not live with the knowledge having that money that was paid for in blood.
Your parents survived Jasenovac ?? Did they gave any interview,any testimony ?? Father is still alive ?
According to the International Truth Commission on Jasenovac, which has no representatives from either Croatian or Serb territory, more than 700,000 Serbs, 23,000 Jews and 80,000 Roma died in the Jasenovac system of Croatian concentration camps, of whom more than 110 000 children up to 14 years of age. The breakthrough of the camp began in April 1945 with about 1,000 (some sources state 970), and only about 90 of them survived the breakthrough.
@Nic Sauter No...it is made by nazis. Nazis are trying to deny everything.
@Nic Sauter I sent you facts, nazi...
Its lie
Big communist lie
In Jasenovac die 1654 people
Tito never visited Jasenovac concentration camp and never put even single flower to the memory and honor for the victims of this genocide.
My grandmother and great grandmother survived that hell close by. They used to beat my great grandma asking where her husband is to kill him because he was a Partizan Soldier, but luckily they survived it all. The horrors and atrocities were great. Words cannot even begin to explain how all this went down. I myself survived the 90s war. It’s insane to think last 4 generations in my family have gone through wars. Crazy I now live in Los Angeles and get to tell my kids about it. 😢 shit is wildddd NEVER FORGET NEVER FORGIVE!!!
Govno srpsko
@@zlatkofilipovic1509 hahahaha … 😊😊 dok ti dijete rodi srpsko dijete hahahahaha biće smješno - jedva čekam
@@Helvlad
Megalomani ,manijaci ,primitivci ,turski vazali .Imate 70 % tursko- ciganske krvi ,zato i jeste tako agresivni i nemirni .To radi anadolsko - saracensko- romski gen .Lopovi ,samo se za tudje hvatate ,mitomani .Imali nacionalna skupina na podrucju ex Ju ,koja vas voli ? Nema.U ratu ste sa svima ,pa cak i sa "okom u glavi ",Crnogorcima 😊.
Mi Hrvati jesmo Srbi ,to jest Slaveni ,ali nismo ta mjesavina cigana , turaka i slavena .
Zato su vas lupali batovima .
@@zlatkofilipovic1509 al si se umorio pisati to i istražio si sve hahahaha! A na kraju cerka će da ti rodi malog čedu. Hajde idi jedi govna 😍😍😍
@@Helvlad
Pjuc,pljuc ne pomeri se smesta srpski romu .
The Serbs lost 1 out of very 9 Serbs in the world population, where the Jews lost 1 out of 20 in the world Jewish population due to genocide during the WWII, ,and the entire Jewish population of Croatia and Bosnia was eliminated, 186,000..
People deny what happens for a number of reasons, could be for hatred, fear of reprisal, just to deny for no reason. i am an American-Serb and have many friends that are American-Croatian and if it weren't for the good people of Croatia and Serbia there would have many more people slaughtered in WWII and in the recent 1990's conflict.
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@@miodragilic2361 know all of that and more,,, also have seen the video.
Serb gypsies too, the Balkans is the middle East of Europe we can't find peace
Then my friend, you might be ready for the truth ua-cam.com/video/kuXBc9sAxBw/v-deo.html
Seems to me most of the denial comes from the Croatian emigre community in places like Australia, Argentina (less so now as their numbers have dropped) and the USA and Canada. These communities existed long before WWII but many, many Ustashe went overseas on the so called ratlines and almost all of them were set up by people inside the Catholic Church. Thus they became a sizeable component of the emigre community and some of them are very online looking to rehabilitate the Ustasha movement. I have my own controversial opinions here (the 700,000 is not correct it's Titoite propaganda and most historians accept this), but if I had to guess a lot of the pro-Ustasha comments from these communities probably comes from not wanting to admit that grandpa or great grandpa was a war criminal. Hence the constant revisionist views of established facts and outright denial of information that would make their ancestors look like the monsters many of them were.
5:48 croatians named this axe „srbosjek“ in english serbcutter.
Petar Novakovic i have two of them... One for each hand!
@@zagrepcanin82 ponosni narodi se stide ,ovakvih stvari...ali vi niste narod ,bili i ostali becki konjusari
@@zagrepcanin82 idi se baci sa tornja u vukovaru bednice. Mozda ti podignu spomenik tu kao vElIkOm HrVaTsKoM dOmObRaNu
@@zagrepcanin82 Did you inherit them from your grandfather?
@@zagrepcanin82 : Good grief. You state that as if it's something to be proud of.
Can someone please explain to me why the croatians had this much hatred toward the serbs? Where did it come from?
Zoran Cvetkovic Slobodno mozes na nasem ako hoces, ja sve rezumem. Ja cu na angleskom samo zasto mi je lakse.
I have been learning about balkan history and i am really interested! From what I have learned Raska (Old Serbia) and Croatia were the first countries to emerge out of the roman empire. For many years, until the ottoman invasion, Serbs and Croats were close from what I understand. Croatian kings would marry their daughters to Serbian princes and vice-versa in order to create strong bonds. They were good with each other until the ottoman invasions that separated us. Serbia and Bosnia became an autonomous region in the ottoman empire and Croatia and Slovenia became an autonomous region in the Austro-Hungarian empire. The earliest point of conflict that I could find was when Serbians were given land in the Krajina region as a buffer against ottoman invasion. The Serbs were given a good deal of land, self-governance, forced to pay less tax than the Croatians and Slovenians and were given freedom to practise the orthodox religion. This was much more than the Croatians and Slovenians of the region were given and so they (more the croatians than the slovenians) began to cause problems for the Serbians living there. But I cant see that escalating into full blown hatred! The problems must have started after WW1 during the existence of the Krajlevina Srba, Hrvata i Slovenaca. It makes the most sense to me that the problems started during that time period because when u consider the fact that two groups of people who have been living in different empires for hundreds of years are now for the first time in a long time reuniting! Well than of course there will be tension because both groups have changed over the years. Serbs probably adapted some ottoman characteristics that the Croatians saw as beneath them and therefore slowly, over the course of the years leading up to WW2, the Croatians began to see Serbians as inferior. This is only my guess from what I learned with the limited information available to me. I would love to hear your opinion.
The more I learn about this stuff the more nostalgic I feel for old Yugoslavia even though I was not alive during its existence. I looked up the DNA makeup of the balkans and found that Serbians and Croatians share almost identical DNA except for a few small differences (which is only normal when you consider the many different groups of people that have migrated through that region). Since it is clear that both Serbians and Croatians come from the same source I have a very difficult time in understanding how they are so divided today!
It is very sad that it is like this because neither Serbia nor Croatia will ever be as strong on their own as they can be together. In todays world we clearly see large powers forming (EU, US, EURASIA) and carving up the world for their own agendas. EU pulling on one side and EURASIA pulling on the other and we let them tear us apart! Very sad! I think what needs to happen there is that both Croatians and Serbians need to experience other mentalities of the world in order to learn to appreciate the similarities they share between each other. That way they can understand that it is always better to be together than apart. Our division only benefits foreign interests and only hurts us.
Matic500 T
he Kingdom
of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes,
established in 1918, did not obtain the confirmation and permission of
the Croatian Parliament. This state, created in 1918 from the Austro-Hungarian
part, (Slovenia, Croatia,Vojvodina, Bosnia-Herzegovina) and Serbia
and Montenegro, which wereopposing sides during the First World
War (1914-1918), contained a germ of numerous future conflicts. It was
composed of different traditions, religions, nations, languages and
scripts. At that time the region
of Vojvodina did not include Srijem
(the territory between rivers Sava and Danube), that before 1918
belonged to Croatia. Vojvodina belonged to Hungary before 1918.
The idea of Yugoslavia
was in fact the best opportunity for
Serbian nationalists to create the Greater Serbia, which was completed
in 1918 according to the 1844 secret program. Montenegro lost its
independence in 1918 after being brutally annexed to Serbia. The
independence of Montenegro was regained in 1945 within the Tito's
Yugoslavia.
The whole property of
the Austro-Hungarian state and booty
was confiscated by the Serbian authorities. Immediately after 1918 all
the leading positions in the army were seized by Serbian officers, who
treated Croatia as a hostile territory in the common state (it was
publicly declared in 1919!). On the other hand, it was presented to
Europe as if the Croats had entered willingly the union with Serbia.
The Serbian legislature,
juridical and military 19th century
law was simply implemented into the new state without changes and
without consultations with the Croats. It resulted in unbearable terror
and persecutions of Croatian peasants and intellectuals. Croatian
teachers were retired and persecuted.
Equally difficult was
the economic terror of the Belgrade
government. The Croats were not proportionally represented in the
government and diplomatic corps. The old currencies - Serbian dinars
and Croatian (Austrian) crowns, which in 1918 had the same value, were
in 1919 changed for the new dinar in the following ratio: 1 dinar = 4
crowns!
On the other hand,
taxes were lower in Serbiathe major part of foreign loans was spent in Serbia, high administrative posts were filled exclusively with the Serbs (civil servants in Croatia were appointed by the central administration in Belgrade).
Very cruel persecutions of the Muslims by the Serbs resulted
in their massive emigration to Turkey soon after the foundation of
Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes in 1918, where Serbia was the
leading and privileged nation. The same happened to several hundred
thousand Muslims soon after the Second World War. We have witnessed the
same persecutions since 1992. Only in the first half of 1992 about
250,000 Croats and Muslims were exiled from Bosnia to Croatia, as an
adding to its own 350,000 citizens exiled from the occupied areas.
One
of the most outstanding and most
popular personalities in the Croatian political history was Stjepan
Radic (1871-1928), the leader of
the Croatian Peasant Party,
assassinated in the Yugoslav parliament in Belgrade (capital of present
Serbia) in 1928 together with his colleagues. The assassination was
organized at the Royal court in Belgrade. Radic strived to renew the
Croatian sovereignty and the economic and cultural emancipation of
Croatia. He wanted the state of the Southern Slavs to be reorganized on
confederative basis, without Serbian hegemony.
+Matic500 Number of those killed is 70-100.000, not 700.000.
Sky Isblue totally right, religion is absolutely the only difference between Serbs and Croats and the only reason for all deaths and divide. For example Italy is clear example, it was until 19th century split in numerous states and it only survived so far united because it is whole Catholic while differences between regional differences are much bigger compared to ex Yugoslavia.
serbs brought it on themselves by oppressing croats before ww2 only few hundreds serbian soldiers were tortured and killed in jasenovac so it isn't even all that horrific as their propaganda shows.
NEVER FORGET! ☦✝️
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I can't ignore the catholic churchs complicity......
29 members of my family were murdered there. My grandfather finished the war with no mother, no father, no sisters, brothers, anyone: only him alone survived
I had no idea of this concentration camp until I researched my family name Rukavina.
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Don't buy the judeo-serbian propaganda trying to dehumanize you.
that’s fucked, i’m so sorry for you
@@halt4842 Stop with the guilt trip he didn't do anything.
People in the comment sections of these kinds of videos are all children, none of them are adults that stop and think before tiping something.
@@squ4t343 just read the book 'convert or die' by edmund paris - you'll learn everything you need to know about the ustashi, who created them and their horrific crimes against Christian Serbs
Our love story was born this dark time.. brave people connected to fight the nazi regime. Our last generation has payed lot of blood to fight for freedom. Our 1990 politics brought us back to 1941.. I miss the times, we liked each other.. 30 years after war, it doesn`t feel like peace.. just someone we used to know.
Unbelievable
I’ve only known about Jasenovac today after watching Dara of Jasenovac movie. Like all the crimes against humanity committed by the Nazi officers and soldiers, my heart sunk as I was watching the this movie and learned the horrible crimes they’ve committed in Jasenovac. How can all these evil people sleep or slept at night before death caught up with them is unbelievable. All these horrible crimes must be prevented from happening at all cost. Although sadly wars and genocide and ethnic cleansing still happen to this day there’s no excuse for us all to not stand against fascists and strongmen! May all the victims’ souls rest in peace! Never forget! Never again!!
It is a biggest bull, her is the truth documentary uncovered recently ua-cam.com/video/kuXBc9sAxBw/v-deo.html
There is NO actual evidence of mass killings at Jasenovac
What if I told you that it was all bull*hit?
@@dariovukojevic926 frustrated manipulative croatdog
@@rusaa5293 Yeah man, no solid evidence for any of it. Let's dig the ground.
and the west supported croatia all along in the 90s
@AmeriKa1050 Can you define a little more what you trying to explain, thanks.
Da, jer ste radili isto ono cemu se protivite kad se radi nad vama
@@flayedface4462 o cemu ti sad palamudis, jel covjek lijepo objasnio sta i kako...neka vrate nasu arhivu i gotovo...sta oni imaju prisvajat nasu arhivu...koji su kurac oni u BG...ajmo...let us get back our archive ww2 from Croatia and all thing will be more clearly.
Yes they did of course. The Serbs did what the Croatian did to them. So why would the west support that type of behaviour ?
@@gomezsaints WHAT? Get your facts correct and read more about ww2
Croatian mpnster
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oh I see ... yugo regime did'nt ask for Dinko Sakic 50 years or so and that's fine, but Croatia must charge him at once, if not it must be a nazi state ... isn't that double standards?
+Johnny Blaze jebeni fašisti! Ali ti prvi ba threadu si bio u pravu za Yu!
Why hate anyone. Everyone should leave everyone else alone as we are all members of the human race and I do not think it matters who our higher power is as long as we are all loving and kind to others of the human race!
Karen Callison true and i dont hate anyone but now you see why serbs hate croats... maybe if they admit and recognize and finally apologize maybe things would be diffrent.
croatian girls love Black men apologize for what????
@@zagrepcanin82 Who was hung in Belgrade in 1946? One of yours
You have to know that we are not colonial empires or anything like that. We have huge history of war's,but we didn't attack nobody. Our home is in crossing ways to east and west empires that attack bus and we have never surrender to those who was stronger. MANY OF SERBS DON'T know thing that 7 Rome empire kings are birth on SERBIAN territory. From that information,something must be interesting about Serbian population. NIKOLA TESLA perhaps greater and most intelligent person who ever live in near history isn't British,Spanish,Greece but he was SERBIAN. This is something that little bit of population of world know,Albert Abstain didn't make famous formula, that was one of work by his wife SERBIAN women Mileva!!! But it's much better to be AUSTRIAN then SERBIAN in that time. We were on Ottoman empire almost five hundred years and they didn't upgrade their lives for all of that time,you can imagine how much SERBIAN orthodox Christian people could be progressive if they rule at our territory. We have one big fighting with Turkish empire in 1389. on Kosovo field. They come with 50-70 thousand soldiers and we have only 20-30 thousand soldiers and that was all of Serbian man population. But we are famous in battles so someone in France ring the bells for our victory but other side Turkish,that after 10-15 years take over our queens place and next almost 500 years stay at our territory and many other countries that they concord. I didn't told that wr killed their empire Sultan Murat and his son Jakub,but we also lost king and best knights of that time in Europe. In present time I must remind you about our famous NOVAK DJOKOVIC who is probably GOAT at tennis and he plays like 10 years ago. Think about that he won AUSTRALIAN OPEN 9 times. Last year they didn't allow him to play because he didn't want to take COVID injection of antivirus. That was reason to deported him from Australia and somebody else vin tournament. But you have any idea what was real reason to make such a decision to not allow him playing tennis!? He was healthy and prepared to take another Salem. Conspiracy was that they would be changed name of Arena in Australia from Rod Leiver (don't know how write name of mr. Rod) in case that Novak Djokovic win again that is ten times in his tennis player life time,so Arena change name in to NOVAK DJOKOVIC. If on his place was for example Federer Australia let him to play even with Covid positive test results. You can be sure about this and there is so many similar problems because we didn't change our religion and didn't give our land to be taken of Serbia and another state America and Germany make from our south part of country where we have 1365'churches and other things that belong to Serbian history. That part we call Kosovo and Metohia. In that last 100 years Albanian people who come to Balkans from Kavkaz multiple people like they are going to become Chinese and they are in that part of Serbia more than us. They have all kind of rights and freedoms that nobody give them,but they wanted to make new state Kosovo. They even make terrorist organization and financing it from Swiss and Germany were most of family who have 12 son's,half of them send to Europe countries (Swiss and Germany) to working there and send money back to home. Some part of them are honest working people and bigger part is drug selling on the streets and money of drugs also going to place where they buy weapons and other equipment. In Albania that we border with Serbia someone steal weapons and bullets from military facilities in Albania and after several months send into Serbia territory,because that is border in the top of mountains whit hard territory to monitoring 24/7 in those years(98-99). And after they killed many policemen,we can't looking at terrorists so we started anti terrorist operation. Their terrorist organization UÇK (Kosovo liberation army) unit spring of 98. was on same list like Al Qaida and other ,that Americans put there for a reason. But everything changed in the spring of 98. when they fighting for Albanian rights,what was absurd. That was not approved about taking millions of dollars to be against Serbia and our military,police and civilians. We know that Medley Olbrit take most of money and then she give oder important people in US political scene. Also we (,inteliget service) knows that one of terrorists "make a love" whit that women and after we finished war with Nato forces,she overtake Telecom from Serbia and make private company,also chif general of American and Nato forces, take over mining rear metals and other things that belong to Serbia and we will be again on our graveyards and churches even must waiting for next thousand years in future. But thet can be able to make next year. We are small and whiteout background,so if Russia defeat Nato In Ukraine ,that will be green light for attacking and retaking our land full of Serbian blood
I can't stop crying
What about this…im bosnian serb, the Ustase came one day to my grandfather’s village and picked up my grandfather’s father, while they were walking through the village road there was a 10 years old my grandfather’s brother who saw his father taken by ustase and asking him “father where are you going?”, the Ustase asked my great grandfather “is this your son?”, he said “yes it is”, than ustase said “ok little one,come with us”, my family found their bodies later under the bridge, they were both shot dead.
And yes, the ustase were bosnian muslims, they were in ustase too, i hope this explains a bit why we serbs were rough to them in the 90s wars.
@@schmirgldeckstrue story I was the village road
@5:48 Knife called "Serb Throat cutter" "Srbosjek-on croatian"
Contrary to what CNN claims in the video, it was originally made for wheat. It wasn't the first, or last time an agricultural tool was misused for slaughtering people.
I wrote this text in memory of all decesead back in those gloomy days, specially the children, innocent targets of other's hate. They didn't know about the ambitions of conquest, supremacy and dominium over others. Didn't know about religious thruth or lie. Could not differentiate between good and evil. Still they were the proeminent victims of men's wickedness.
I did not know that the "valiant" Ustasha "fought" the war in this way. I only knew from the top, of the prison camp at Jasenovac. I am speechless ... But a great deal of anger, and sadness, is taking over me.
My father is a native of Split and fought with Tito's partisans, like many others. My mom is from Dubrovnik. She was Serbian and orthodox. I was born in what is now Serbia and I am baptized orthodox.
My father fled Yugoslavia and took my mother and me by the advent of the Communism. So I have relatives in Croatia and a few others in Serbia. What happened in World War II, in my opinion, must be forgotten. Hate breeds more hatred ... and it never ends.
I hope that the new generation will not be influenced by these stories so as not to hold a grudge and, who knows, in the future there may be more peace in the region. Times are different now.
I know how difficult it is to "forget" these events, this bestiality, this horrible lack of humanity. And forgive.
I cannot forgive the Ustasha or the Nazis. Even so, I will not pass these stories on to my children. They better not know. They better not grow up with hatred in their hearts.
These videos, whether from Serbs or Croats, should not be shown. This is not information. This is the spread and perpetuation of hatred. It does no one any good and poisons the soul and the heart.
My parents, both already deceased, never told me much about this subject. I, as a regular history reader, had known for years about the rivalry between the Serbian and Croat tribes. I knew there was conflict and I had a reasonable knowledge of the subject. I didn't know, however, about the horrible details that appear in several videos, which I confess, I don't have the heart to watch. I want to forget. I advise everyone to forget and above all, do not talk to your children. Don't relay hatred. This has to end.
Who says these things can't happen again.Pope is on satan throne and he is ruling the world,he and all those rich people.
Well billy, you are wrong. Jasenovac and ndh must never ever be forgoten. Wisit croatia and you will see that croats are revisioning history, letter U is written on walls as grafiti, they wanted to make stepinac a martyr but the pope didnt allow it, every year there is an attack or two on serbs in croatia. When eu and zda power and interest in the balkans fade, the serbs will f.ck the croats up. And i hope good.
This is not spreading hatred this TELLING THE WORLD THE TRUTH TO PREVENT THESE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN. Silence will be the weapon of those who want to commit such crimes in the future for without us and the next generation learning what horrible things mankind can do to one another this is will just be a never ending cycle. This story should not be forgotten and so are the names of all their victims! Never again, never forget! ✊🏼🤍
Interestingly, the people who tell us the story of the Balkans and the Second World War, make it the biggest genocide in history!!!! First learn your history, then learn ours. In the Balkans, we have older beer than your country!!! Can you find Europe or a part of Europe such as the Balkans on the world map? Can you even find your country or province on the world map? when you learn all that, we can have a little discussion. Until then, leave us Balkans alone, as much as we Balkans hate each other, we love each other, you will never understand that. Please don't interfere in something you don't understand.
Waiting for the ustashe trolls to find the comment section
My grandmother was in jasenovac..She as all the others, just do not want to talk about that..They want to forget!! God knows, world is not important! There is God!
Jasenovac je bio radni logor a ne logor smrti
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@@taya1584 is the mith that croatia was 1 of 5 fasists in ww2 along with Germany, Japan, Spain, Italya...Poor croat buthers...You croats are si brave to lieve the comments and then to erase them, ahahaha....God knows all about you, unfortunately!
Heroj, počivao u miru Zapovjedniče.
1200 000 Serbs 80 000 serbs child
@EL KAIZER this can only be said by an ignorant person or one who has no idea about the history of the independent state of croatia from the period of the second world war
700 000 Serbs, 1 200 000 total*
@AUGUSTUS Go watch cartoons,Kid.
@AUGUSTUS Nah
@AUGUSTUS According to the International Truth Commission on Jasenovac, which has no representatives from either Croatian or Serb territory, more than 700,000 Serbs, 23,000 Jews and 80,000 Roma died in the Jasenovac system of Croatian concentration camps, of whom more than 110 000 children up to 14 years of age. The breakthrough of the camp began in April 1945 with about 1,000 (some sources state 970), and only about 90 of them survived the breakthrough.
I dont know which organisation is worse the nazis or the roman catholic church. Sadly my mother was both. She was just an ignorant girl growing up in Hilters Austria she was 10 years old when hitler came to power her mother was a single mother trying to put food on the table for 3 kids so was rarely there so my mother found her family as a girl in the roman catholic teachers and the nazi party. sure there are some decent members in the roman catholic church but the organisation seems corrupt from its head to its toes .
I really dont hate on Serbian and American women/girls,i just had to throw it out there so all can see this beautiful comment. ❤️😍 We know THEIR guys dont hate our women/girls,proven in the wars………..
This is Croatian and Bosnian muslims
Ante Pavelic c'était mon grand père 🫡
Nisi ti kriv, nisi mogao da biraš.
@@AlexAleksandrov-wn3co nismo ni mi krivi sto su vas Turtsi pravili 500 godina 😮💨
@@larcandier7824 Nek ste vi Srbi pa makar mi i bili Turci!
Croatia have never been de-NAZI-fied.
hahahhahhha ok Putine.
my grandmother was from slovenia and my mother was an austrian nazi sadly. how anyone would like to visit anywhere in yugoslavia is a mystery even though from a scenery point of view it is lovely.
I come from western Europe, spent 6 months in Slovenia, LJ and visited all of balkans. Except Bosnia and eastern parts of Croatia i saw no signs of the war. This region is beautiful and people are friendly. Perfect European destination for cheap vacation.
@@coldfire4369 if you think the world has heard the last of the croat, serb, slovene and bosnian troubles then i think you are the last remaining optimist in europe.
@@ricdavid7476 I never said that there wouldn't be another conflict but i highly doubt that. Slovenia and Croatia are EU now first of all. And right now it's calm there. It's even more peaceful that France criminality rate is so low. Don't compare Slovenia Bosnia Croatia to Kosovo lol
I hope you are right the last time I was there and I travelled the length of the country was in the 80,s and it had a veneer of calm with a terrible under current of unrest I think that is the current position and with the eu on its knees that is no guarantee of anything sadly
@@ricdavid7476 You can't compare the balkans from the 80's with the balkans from nowadays. No one there wants another war. People might hate eachother but there wont be another war.
Croatians are the bravest people not because they are not afraid of anything but because they are not ashamed of anything.
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......,..That's not bravery - that's indifference
Bravest folding to the nazis 😂 you where all a bunch off followers simple as that!
Including genocide?
The Croats bravest people in the world because there is no fear but because it is nothing to be ashamed
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hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popis_stanovni%C5%A1tva_u_Bosni_i_Hercegovini_1910.
i hrvati imaju druge podatke svi sem vi
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To ti je popis ko je dozivio genocid u bosni,a ne neki seoski vasari po srebrenici i koride i ko imam pravo na bosnu istorijski i religijski
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hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popis_stanovni%C5%A1tva_u_Bosni_i_Hercegovini_1910.
u popisu austrougarske nigdj e se ne spominju hrvati samo srbi rimokatolici i srbi pravoslavci i muslimani.Vi imate prav na kiflu i to veoma malo
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Nego sta nego imamo pravo,to je nasa zemlja,natopljena nasom krvlju i vasa djeca ce placati za grijehe svojih ppedaka,to je istorija ucila
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Traziti od vatikana da ponisti povleju iz 1904 godine,koja izdaje da su svi katolici pazi ovo koji govore srpskim jezikom na zapadnom balkanu hrvati.Imas na internet sajtu vatikana original povelju ili dekret kako oces
Hi I'm from Croatia.I found this lecture very informative.I am from a Croatian Partisan Antifascist family.
I was also a victim of the 90's war and had to live 4 years im exile when Serbia attacked Croatia.War caught me when i was 14.I didnt even know what my ethnicity was because the ethinicty wasnt even important in Yugoslavia.3 months after i heard what I was,my and my family were evicted from our home by Serbian forces and my childhood friend was killed
There are just a few things i wanted to add to this video
First and foremost Croatian people never voted for the Ustasa regime.Those idiots took power.Croats never voted them in. I dont know a single person in my region who supports them or thinks positivly of them
Second there were at least 250.000 Croatian antifascist soldiers who fought against the Germans,The Ustase,Fasist Italy and Serbian Chetniks.My grandfathers fought them all !
The 1st Antifascist Squardon in Europe was founded in Croatia in 1941 in Sisak.The 1st Sisak Brigade and they attacked the Germans the same day
Our first president the late Franjo Tuđman was a great antifascist fighter and a general in Josip Broz Tito's army who was Croatian as well.The whole leadership of Yugoslav partisan antifascists were Croatian
Many many Croats fought against Nazism,but there is also massive Serbian nationalist propaganda movement that tries to paint all Croats as Nazis
I think that is wrong because of that propaganda i became a victim of a war myself
And last thing i want to add is that Jasenovac camp was in use untill 1952.The communists used the Jasenovac camp for 7 years after the war for nazis and their own political opponents.So i would really like some kind of neutral commition to take place so we know all historical facts without any nationalist propaganda
I would also like to add that more then 5000 antifascist Croats were killed in Jasenovac camp
Oh... And .... There was a breaktrough from the Jasenovac camp and the organiser and the leader of that breaktrough was also a Croat.His name was Anto Bakotić.He saved a lot of prisoners that day
Its like Germans claiming to be victims of the Holocaust. Sad. So sad that you want to take away attention from actual victims.
@@aleksandratesanovic9975 What???How?
Im just saying that there thousands and thousands of Croats who were anti fascist and fought against the Nazis.Including my family.
I dont understand how you got that idea?
@@aleksandratesanovic9975 And I don't remember half of Germany being antifascist and fighting the Nazis...
What you are doing is generalizing.Dismissing someones opinion on the basis of their ethnicity...Which is the definition of fascism!!!
Serbia did not attack Croatia back in the nineties. Croats started the war as they first wanted to get independence from Yugoslavia, that's where it all started. Serbs never attacked you. I come from Krajina. I was a kid at the time and my family had to flee for our lives because Croats attacked us civilians. Croats burned 30000+ Serbian houses, schools, churches, they bombed kids while trying to evacuate, they went from village to village killing everyone who stayed. Multiple massacres happened in Serb villages, Varivode, Golubic etc. Some were killed in front of their family members. I am not dismissing what you are saying and that you and your family went through things but don't tell people lies that Serbs attacked you because Serbs did not attack. It was Croats that wanted independence and then attacked Serbian populated areas as they couldn't get independence with the little area they lived in.
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Muh we wuz soaps
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Tudjman is the same
Why do people think I'm a Nazi when I say I'm from Croatia?
@Fabian Kirchgessner Alright, thank you.
Meaning ustaša… rise of croats against brutal Rule of serb king alexander against Croatian populatulion in croatia
A sta je to brutalni Aleksandar uradio toliko brutalno prema Hrvatima da bi ti isti Hrvati cinili nekoliko godina poslije takva zvjerstva?
The ustashe threw Serbian bodies into the Sava River
One nation, but different religions
Croats are my great friends serbs are ok
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Propaganda
Ma da, sve photoshop, montaza, sve laz, Hrvati su bili andjeli...
Lazy comment. Plenty of film footage. Smash cultural fascism too ;)
Dražen Mišetić oh yes you have Serbian Surname MisetIC hahahahaha
What exactly is propaganda here?
how can it be propaganda when croatians are openly proud of what they did in jasenovac
Croats also died in Jasenovac, so Serbs do not have any exclusivity, which you wanted so much. Serbia no longer has and cannot beat the Croats on the head with Jasenov, especially after the fact that Serbia was condemned for GENOCIDE by the INTERNATIONAL COURT right after Hitler's Germany. With Jasenov, Serbia masks its own shame of GENOCIDE and war crimes in the 90s. Croats, keep your heads up, don't fall for Serbian propaganda! ❤
Srbi su POSEBNO ubijani.To govori broj ubijenih Srba i posebno nacin na koji su ubijani.Previse je snimala iz tog doba,previse dokumenata i dosta svjedoka.Nije to nesto sto se desilo prije 500 god.Zadnji rat vam je dobrodosao iz vise razloga…kako je sam Tudjman rekao..bez rata nema lijepe nase,misleci na to da se mora ukinuti konstitutivnost Srba a to se moglo samo ratom.Dr razlog vam je kao i Nijemcima prirastao posebno srcu…Da se sto vise potisne istina da su vase drzave bile otvoreno rasisticke i antisemitske.Dnevne stampe iz tog doba koliko hoces u kojima se otvoreno govori o Jevrejina i Srbima kao neljudima koji se moraju pobiti.Srbi napravili Srebrenicu ali bar nisu klali bebe u kolijevkama i nisu bili rasisti.Zlo je zlo ali ovo sa rasizmom je zaista samo leglo najveceg ljudskog zla.
Did they? And ? Does that excuse what happened, your genocide apologetics are disgusting.
That's what's wrong with nationalist apologetics, long before these ppl where Croats or Serbians they are human beings and no amount of whataboutism or claiming its propaganda excuses the genocide.
Za Dom Spremni 'U'
Tukao bih te na smrt dok ne dišeš i ne bih se libio fašisto. Moji preci su se borili protiv Mongola, Osmanlija i Šveđana. Od poljsko-američkog
Za grob spremni. Smrt fašizmu, smrt ustašama.