I incorporate varied types of carries (stones too) in my training and its made a huge difference in my daily tasks that require holding and walking with awkward items, which happens often (moving furniture, dressers, handyman work around the house, digging, hauling items in the wheel barrel, and hauling bags of concrete). I definitely think the major lifts are essential, but I have to include carries as a must as well. Dan John is big on carries, and I have to agree. It's my go to for functional aerobic/anaerobic conditioning.
I know you already kind of answered this, but as some one that does hard heavy labor with anything from transformers, to pipes, to motors and heavy wrenches and spools of wire that can weigh a few hundred pounds, could strongman be more useful for making my job less physically demanding than general barbell training? I realise that training for events makes you better primarily at those events, but wouldn't strongman style training carry a higher degree of specificity to my job than barbell movements? And to go further down that rabbit hole, would strongman be more specific in general than barbell training for most peoples day to day lives? Its rare that we pick up perfectly balanced objects like barbells, but we do lift awkwardly shaped hard to grip cumbersome objects pretty regularly.
Strongman movements make great resistance cardio for powerlifters imo. Doing some farmer's walks is far more engaging than just walking on a treadmill. I love doing Viper Press as a HIIT exercise when I'm in training blocks far away from peaking.
Stongman conditioning is about the only kind of conditioning I will do. Treadmill or exercise bike are way too boring and tedious. Farmer's walks and Sandbag workout s have a much greater benefit you your body over sitting on a bike or a treadmill. While you may not lose muscle on a treadmill, you aren't really gaining anything either. Spending 45 minutes on a treadmill to burn calories that can be replaced with an extra slice of bread is the ultimate definition of a waste of time. You can burn more calories and still build strength doing farmers walks and sandbag conditioning work in less time than it takes you to fart around on a treadmill. Also, the effects of doing the strongman conditioning will continue to burn calories after you stop, where the effects of walking on a treadmill will pretty much stop the instant you step off the treadmill.
Burning calories isn't the only reason we do conditioning. Low intensity steady state conditioning offers benefits you don't get from doing strongman stuff. Farmer's walks and sandbag workouts are not effective for increasing strength in somebody who's already training effectively with barbells. However, doing farmer's walks and sandbag stuff will cut into your recovery, decreasing your ability to train effectively with barbells. If you don't care that it'll cut into your recovery and you think strongman stuff is fun, then have fun!
@@tharjaco 100% agree with those first 2 sentences. But ultimately the best way to improve aerobic capacity is to do conventional, boring LISS. Sandbags, farmers etc will not do that. There is a reason endurance why endurance athletes don't do farmers and sandbags to get conditioned. Even as a cross training tool.
@@BarbellMedicine Let me explain more. I am using a couple BBM templates (press strength and the GPPs) to structure my programming but I train strongman and more importantly, compete several times a year. One of the things I am running into with this approach is that some strongman events don't map well to traditional barbell movements. As an example, how do I program for the Max Log event in my upcoming contest? I initially replaced my "competition press" with the log press as might be suggested by the content in this video. However, this is not a one-to-one replacement from a fatigue management perspective since the log press requires a clean and involves a push-press or jerk movement. I ended up putting it on a different day to replace bench press instead and it seems to be working, but I came to this video hoping to get a better understanding of how these replacements would work. Alan seemed to start on this discussion but it was not expanded upon. As for the docs on the team, I respect your knowledge on powerlifting, strength and many other things (obviously, I bought your templates and love them), but the "sport" of strongman is certainly not something you are as knowledgeable in as Alan and I would have liked to hear more about programming from his perspective. Instead, strongman seemed to be approached from a "crossfitian" perspective where it is mostly used for conditioning work.
PunchMonkey I don’t know if I would expect more fatigue from all press as you suggest and I’d default to replacing them one to one without modification unless the test was significantly different. I may increase frequency depending on the actual test..hard to generalize, which is why we didn’t expand on it in the podcast. While I feel pretty comfortable programming for strongman comps, the vast majority of people implementing strongman work will never compete and thus it’s greatest benefit is likely conditioning in those populations.
I’m going to disagree with these guys on the whole strongman for conditioning thing. If planned properly with the proper exercise selection, reps sets weights etc, there is little difference between strongman conditioning and a rower. Also you have to keep your goal in mind, if your a powerlifter why do you need conditioning in the first place? Why are you trying to directly strength train and directly train your conditioning at the same time? If your goal is to be a well rounded athlete who is generally strong and conditioned like a decathlete or a hockey player, then you can afford to drop some deadlift volume and do farmers walks in a strongman conditioning circuit because they complement eachother better that deadlifting heavy than going for a run. If being a well rounded athlete is your goal the deadlift is a tool to train your energy systems not to increase your 1rm deadlift. ALL energy systems can be trained through resistance training so why overly diversify your training to include unimportant exercises that has no relation to your other training.
Lord Fauntleroy Neanderthall just like Bombmar Isis and Muted Miguel has been spreading misinformation since is first day in UA-cam until BM called him out for his BS. Since then he just repeats what BM says leaving his lies in his old UA-cam videos for everyone to see.
Fun fact, Alan's beard is hiding 3 microphones in this video. Genius!
And a secret camera...and I noticed some pieces of cheesecake.
Gotta ask: is there anything planned in terms of a template for Strongman stuff?
His beard works as a windscreen
Then why is his audio so bad?
Was wondering how the audio was so on point
Allen needs a video of Jordan and Austin doing some strong man events
Honestly, Alan is my favourite youtuber. Not just in terms of fitness, but overall.
Same here
Will we see a strongman template in the future?
I would buy this immediately.
Same
Shout out for brute strength gym! Norfolk Virginia! Kinda sad I started going there after you guys left.
Best intro, keep it permanent. Nice shirt dad.
agreed
Would love to know the song!
Libre del resto
Daddy* 😏
🍻
I incorporate varied types of carries (stones too) in my training and its made a huge difference in my daily tasks that require holding and walking with awkward items, which happens often (moving furniture, dressers, handyman work around the house, digging, hauling items in the wheel barrel, and hauling bags of concrete). I definitely think the major lifts are essential, but I have to include carries as a must as well. Dan John is big on carries, and I have to agree. It's my go to for functional aerobic/anaerobic conditioning.
Thank you for the free content.
Right on guys. Very interesting and informative discussion. Gotta come to one of your intensives.
Hey coach, loved the casual chat about a topic on which I'm pretty ignorant. Thanks for the great content.
"Yeah maybe if I could like hip drive my way out of the fight. It's just like *blip* *blip* *blip*" I lol'd so hard
Dude you guys are the best. Keep up the good content!
Joey BBM! This makes me very happy.
ONE THOUSAND POUNDS!!!
That was awesome, thank you!
that boston fern behind Austin is incredible
Yes but a second fern would have made it complete
I know you already kind of answered this, but as some one that does hard heavy labor with anything from transformers, to pipes, to motors and heavy wrenches and spools of wire that can weigh a few hundred pounds, could strongman be more useful for making my job less physically demanding than general barbell training?
I realise that training for events makes you better primarily at those events, but wouldn't strongman style training carry a higher degree of specificity to my job than barbell movements?
And to go further down that rabbit hole, would strongman be more specific in general than barbell training for most peoples day to day lives? Its rare that we pick up perfectly balanced objects like barbells, but we do lift awkwardly shaped hard to grip cumbersome objects pretty regularly.
YEAH BOI this is what I've been waiting for!
Joey szatz is my favorite 100% natural strongman
Jordan is king of the strawman argument whenever he has these discussions with Baraki
Strongman Name Ideas
Alan Thrall the Squat Jesus
Jordan the Hebrew Hammer
Austin "ARRRRGH" Baraki.
Intro song on point. What is the name?
Darude - Sandstorm
@@grizzlymanverneteil4443 lol, that's hilarious. Also: very no.
Yay
Broex - Libre Del Resto ua-cam.com/video/84HdW-vUKdA/v-deo.html
@@nickgriff85 thanks a lot
Sad I couldn't make the seminar.
"Can I just wear the sleeves?"
Words that would come back to haunt Jordan months later.
thanks
Strongman movements make great resistance cardio for powerlifters imo.
Doing some farmer's walks is far more engaging than just walking on a treadmill. I love doing Viper Press as a HIIT exercise when I'm in training blocks far away from peaking.
Well but that might decrease your recovery/produce unnecessary stress that could be used to recover from training that is specific to powerlifting
Farmer walk is a bad example, specifically for Powerlifting, but i totally agree. Whatever makes the person more compliant to reach their objective
Love farmer carries. Just a very practical lift.
Also love the sand bag carry too.
Best BBM intro ever
Any tips for a weightlifter with a bone spur in his hand? I can't even grip a barbell without pain..
That intro is lit
My gf just saw Mr Baraki for the first time and said that he looks very polite, like a disney character xD
Good stuff!
Good stuff
Song name plz???
Good ol Adam Paul.
3:37 Bill Goldberg was the one guy..
Okay i know you guys don't normally talk about this kind of stuff. But are there any tips you can offer on increasing calve and forearm size??
ua-cam.com/video/ISePfnmknYY/v-deo.html
here ya go buddy
Train your calve and forearms more frequently if thats your goal
At your last set of deadlift, hold the bar until @8 I'd say. For calves, check out Omor Isoft channel
@@Worlds.Strongest.Mauro10 😂😂 I am well aware of Omar isufs channel, that's very funny. I will try the deadlift thing for sure tho.
@@nuhomusic9343 oo shit I can't believe I didnt look for Israetels advice before. Thanks for the link brobeans
Strongman should be renamed Hold-My-Beer. Or Hold-My-Beard, in Alan's case
someone turn that "Alan playing a guitar" into a gif
Alan trying real hard to say something nice about crossfit.
Equipment, exposure, uh...
Stongman conditioning is about the only kind of conditioning I will do. Treadmill or exercise bike are way too boring and tedious. Farmer's walks and Sandbag workout s have a much greater benefit you your body over sitting on a bike or a treadmill. While you may not lose muscle on a treadmill, you aren't really gaining anything either. Spending 45 minutes on a treadmill to burn calories that can be replaced with an extra slice of bread is the ultimate definition of a waste of time. You can burn more calories and still build strength doing farmers walks and sandbag conditioning work in less time than it takes you to fart around on a treadmill. Also, the effects of doing the strongman conditioning will continue to burn calories after you stop, where the effects of walking on a treadmill will pretty much stop the instant you step off the treadmill.
I think you should watch the video again.
Burning calories isn't the only reason we do conditioning. Low intensity steady state conditioning offers benefits you don't get from doing strongman stuff. Farmer's walks and sandbag workouts are not effective for increasing strength in somebody who's already training effectively with barbells. However, doing farmer's walks and sandbag stuff will cut into your recovery, decreasing your ability to train effectively with barbells.
If you don't care that it'll cut into your recovery and you think strongman stuff is fun, then have fun!
@@tharjaco 100% agree with those first 2 sentences.
But ultimately the best way to improve aerobic capacity is to do conventional, boring LISS.
Sandbags, farmers etc will not do that. There is a reason endurance why endurance athletes don't do farmers and sandbags to get conditioned. Even as a cross training tool.
All I learned is that BBM is not well versed in the sport of strongman... I wish Alan would have injected more.
In what way, Punch?
@@BarbellMedicine Let me explain more. I am using a couple BBM templates (press strength and the GPPs) to structure my programming but I train strongman and more importantly, compete several times a year. One of the things I am running into with this approach is that some strongman events don't map well to traditional barbell movements.
As an example, how do I program for the Max Log event in my upcoming contest? I initially replaced my "competition press" with the log press as might be suggested by the content in this video. However, this is not a one-to-one replacement from a fatigue management perspective since the log press requires a clean and involves a push-press or jerk movement. I ended up putting it on a different day to replace bench press instead and it seems to be working, but I came to this video hoping to get a better understanding of how these replacements would work. Alan seemed to start on this discussion but it was not expanded upon.
As for the docs on the team, I respect your knowledge on powerlifting, strength and many other things (obviously, I bought your templates and love them), but the "sport" of strongman is certainly not something you are as knowledgeable in as Alan and I would have liked to hear more about programming from his perspective. Instead, strongman seemed to be approached from a "crossfitian" perspective where it is mostly used for conditioning work.
PunchMonkey I don’t know if I would expect more fatigue from all press as you suggest and I’d default to replacing them one to one without modification unless the test was significantly different. I may increase frequency depending on the actual test..hard to generalize, which is why we didn’t expand on it in the podcast.
While I feel pretty comfortable programming for strongman comps, the vast majority of people implementing strongman work will never compete and thus it’s greatest benefit is likely conditioning in those populations.
Barbell Medicine + Starting Strength is all you need.
but the 180 degree rule tho....
Alan's "advanced coaching" interview (tm).
I’m going to disagree with these guys on the whole strongman for conditioning thing. If planned properly with the proper exercise selection, reps sets weights etc, there is little difference between strongman conditioning and a rower. Also you have to keep your goal in mind, if your a powerlifter why do you need conditioning in the first place? Why are you trying to directly strength train and directly train your conditioning at the same time? If your goal is to be a well rounded athlete who is generally strong and conditioned like a decathlete or a hockey player, then you can afford to drop some deadlift volume and do farmers walks in a strongman conditioning circuit because they complement eachother better that deadlifting heavy than going for a run. If being a well rounded athlete is your goal the deadlift is a tool to train your energy systems not to increase your 1rm deadlift. ALL energy systems can be trained through resistance training so why overly diversify your training to include unimportant exercises that has no relation to your other training.
The Thrall is the absolute illiterate type. Only able to repeat what others tell him to. What a nice mascot.
Lol and what are you doing with your life?
What do you mean, Joaquin?
Lord Fauntleroy Neanderthall just like Bombmar Isis and Muted Miguel has been spreading misinformation since is first day in UA-cam until BM called him out for his BS. Since then he just repeats what BM says leaving his lies in his old UA-cam videos for everyone to see.