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@@SirWhiskersThe3rd Move along clown.
Sorry but the thumbnail is way overkill in clickbait. I think it's better if you change it to be more accurate
Please do interesting geography around the world rather than focusing exclusively on USA.
Bro the fields aren't unworkable. Just plant rice. This is the PERFECT environment for it!
I think your videos need more arrows
This is a watershed moment.
Hey we got a punny guy here😂
@@CBoogie69 I came here to make puns and wiener jokes and I'm all out of wiener jokes. Oh and cook I guess.
FACTS, I took a water technology class. GAS LAND is a great movie about water.
god damn it
dam it.
Growing up in Bakersfield and studying geography while at ucla I'd tell my friends and family about this one day happening in our lifetime. To finally witness this is a true honor. We finally have a glimpse of what our state looked like prior to agricultural intensification.
You mean human infestation! Lol
So it sounds like this was something totally predictable like what happened with Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans. It is a great reminder that we need to work with Mother Nature rather than taming it
@@leesureleetrippin7079 people were there for maaany years prior. His point stands.
@@ang5035 same same, but different.
@@smeagle3295 10 spiders in a house is fine. 10,000 spiders is an infestation.
The lost of California's lakes is one of the reasons for the droughts in the west. The lakes used to put a lot of humidity into the air which would make it rain.
BS... The weather there is dominated by High Pressure systems... it IS part of the Desert Southwest.
no, flat surfaces of water evaporate little, a forest will pump a heck of a lot more water in the air than what evaporates from a lake.
all the vegetation growing in the shallow lake will have been responsible for the higher moisture content.
@@jeffrydemeyer5433 Don't forget algae in the water
Maybe could lead to snow in the sierras but probably not significant rain. You need a forcing and upper level moisture to produce precipitation and california only really gets that in the winter
So why was there a drought if the lakes were there when the drought occurred.? Your logic makes no sense
I'm rooting for the lake. California needs fresh water. Screw the ppl that drained the lake.
I agree but I wonder what happens if keeping it drained becomes too much. Like do the people who owned land there get a plot somewhere else , a pay out or are they just SOL ?
@@jerseydevil1 hopefully they have insurance.
@@eonarose 😂😂damn
@@jerseydevil1 Acts of God insurance
Tulare was shallow in 1875, more lost to evaporation.
2017/18 was a really wet winter with tons of Sierra snow. The lake returned that year as well. This lake used to produce fog in the mornings which would feed the sequoia trees just up the hill in the mountains. Even during droughts this lake would provide enough moisture to keep the fog rolling up the mountains. Definitely an important part of the ecosystem
Just letting you know that sequoia trees rarely grow below 4000ft and tule fog rarely go above 2000ft. So its not even the slightest contributing factor for the sierras ever. Nice try though.
@@danielevans3932 Curious, not diss agreeing with you but I’ve seen fog well above 2,000ft in the Appalachian mountains. The humidity and dew point/fog play a huuuge factor in the ecosystem there. How else you think those trees are getting water other than the unsteady rain? Genuine question brotha.
@@danielevans3932 couldn't it be not directly from the lake but fed by it nonetheless?
@@danielevans3932 Is this particular to the Sequoias down south? Because I live in Humboldt county and we have a bunch of them basically at sea level.
2 Different species. I live near Santa Cruz Hills. Our coastal redwoods need the fog and precipitation to survive. The Sierra Nevada Redwoods (Giant Sequoias) need less. Often precipitation and snow/water runoff provide what they need.
I live just north of this area, and I really hope to see the lake refilled to its former glory. I remember hearing about the lake a year or two ago, and finding it crazy that such a massive lake could just be erased like that, and even more strange that nobody I talked to knew of its existence. Now everybody's talking about it!
Same here but thanks to local news on UA-cam and thanks to UA-camr I learned about the existence of this awesome once great lake. As a fishermen myself I want this lake to stay forever. Just think of the swamp land and many biodiversity of creatures returning to the area.
The San Joaquin Valley produces so much food. How much less should anyone eat or so much less Veggies.
Quick...go catch some Delta Smelt and put them in the lake... that'll fix em good
literally because a person who didn't know about being en engineer
There’s a great book by two LA Times reporters, The King of California, that vividly describes the history of Lake Tulare and how human greed destroyed it.
The Tulare lake being full or getting to that state represents a rare oportunity to fix what was done in the past. Hope it stays that way.
Impossible... Money talks... As long as the owner still has money to spend and with his history of spending on the government, they'll prefer the drought days again...
1:48 "Searching not for a path to the ocean, but for the ghost of one of the largest lakes in the country." Poeticly said, my friend.
I didn't even catch that (And Ive rewatched, or relistened, this video a few times) . I cant explain why, but it seems perfect for whatever reason.
@Amanda Quilantang Yeah, it sounds like the rivers are personified as weary, mythological travelers in the desert, searching fruitlessly for a lost love that is now only a mirage. Like some ancient Indian origin story, lamenting the loss of the soul of their betrothed. Lost to the progress of an industrial machine that neither values nor even believes in the existence of souls.
@@johndodson8464 Oh you're good. Brought it to a whole other level.
largest in area, not in water.
the remnants of Tulare lake absolutely should be flooded.if you want to drain a lake and put a farm in the bottom of it you deserve to have your farm flooded when the lake comes back. its not right to try and push that burden onto someone else. its the risk you take when doing this and they should be held accountable. plus the lake is important to the water table meaning it probably cost loads in damages due to drought directly influenced by draining it.
I would also like to see what happens if you breech the damns meant to keep the Tulare Lake dry... for education... ',:)
The same logic would apply to the Netherlands. Are you suggested ⅓ of their 18 million population should drown?
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 a boomer drained a lake to farm cotton, not the same as what Netherlands did
It would be wise to grow a crop that is symbiotic with the landscape. When the landscape gives you wetlands, grow rice.
Rice can then be processed into many different products. Rice for cooking, rice for flower, rice for saki , etc.
You can't harvest rice in a swamp. It must be drained.
@@johnbaskett2309 And? Rice has been grown in the Central Valley for decades. Almonds make more money because of Almond Milk.
Wet rice culture started global warming thousands of years ago in China. Wet rice growing is environmental terrorism.
@@johnbaskett2309 Drained then refilled
I agree that it would be better to not just give up on agriculture entirely in the area as some comments suggest, rather the fact that this is an oft flooded place should be planned for and accomodated while still practicing agriculture here. That may indeed mean switching crops
This is awesome! There should be a movement to buy out that land a keep it a lake. The Central Valley water table had been dropping every year and it needs to be restored. Wells have been running dry and deeper drilling only make the situation worse. The land is healing itself
And no human wounded it. The planet did .
@Karl with a K more money is being lost from drought and climate change. We don’t care about one rich family in CA.
@Karl with a K buy back the land from them, it has to go back to its original purpose as a lake.
Eminent Domain
ngl after shriveling up the state like a raisin for decades, Boswell can stay underwater for all I care
@@graysonwilliams4826 because this was a natural lake and they destroyed it just for profit
@@graysonwilliams4826 because the history says otherwise lmao
@@graysonwilliams4826 They don't give anything back to the people who work for them. Cotton has no place being farmed in a semi arid place. Their current tampering and harm that they now inflict upon communities is proof of their continued greed and this behavior should at the minimum should be punished with forcing the company to sell all assets to the state of California to be used as environmental restoration. The only reasons California was productive is due to its wetland ecosystems and rich soils from the wetlands.
Boswell grows such good cotton that they can get more for it. It gives us clothing. I like cotton shirts better than I would like the lake.
@@jameshudkins2210 ural sea moment
LET THE LAKE LIVE !!!
Yes! Let the lake live!!
Just let the planet be! It’s not us. It’s so big we can’t even imagine the forces at work.
@Karl with a K You've comment spammed this copy paste crap onto half these comments. I don't think I'm alone when I say that I couldn't care less if the family looses everything and all starve on the banks of a full Tulare.
California: Why is there no water? We are having a drought!
Also California: Water is back and it's making us lose money, drain it.
California is well known for their monkeys paw policies that they seem to use for everything. Including solving problems brought on by using the monkeys paw in the first place.
They don't collect rainwater to use droughts in their political campaigns
Preserve the lake.
Funny isn't it? They'd rather have droughts than loose money 😂😂😂 Aren't they funny???
Last year, if you drive on highway 5, you’d see signs along the highway that says, “Build dams, not trains”, now you have a lake and they want to drain it. That’s doesn’t make sense.
Perfect opportunity to introduce regulations to prevent it's draining.
That is not gonna happen
Why?
@@tomblaise Lobbyists. Money. "Big Ag" is no lie and Boswell is a small part of a large consortium of large-scale agricultural landowners.
@@tomblaise The California Central Valley is a huge producer of most of the things in your Produce Section in the Supermarket. Those lakes produce nothing that you are using.
@@jameshudkins2210 So wouldn’t we want it drained to keep the water from evaporating and to continue using the land for productive agricultural purposes?
I hope the Lake fully returns and becomes protected
same here
Not going to happen but you can dream all you want.
@@danielevans3932 that's why its time for the people to take it by force
@@growingup15 It is only several feet deep in most places, it WILL dry up again.
@@growingup15 FR. It's crazy how one man can own and destroy the 9th largest lake in the country. I'm all for private ownership, but large bodies of water should be controlled by the state.
A recent Sierra USGS survey showed 200% of normal snowpack for the northern Sierra, 250% for the central, and a wopping 300% for the southern Sierra.
WTF happen to the "Global Warming" AlGore Promised us?
oh. Rebranding.
@Karl with a K Just check NOAA, which I've been doing for months, and those "round" figures are accurate enough.
You've got to keep the baseline in context though. The southern Sierra Nevada probably doesn't get that much snow to begin with
@@carlosc.4683
Not sure, but afterall they are part of the Sierra. They're badass mountains.
California has been given a great opportunity to bring back the lake, now will we all get to see a new permanent lake in the valley?
I hope so!
Nope,its an endorheic lake.
It’s unfortunate the farmers are impacted. It was an unnatural act to drain the lake, now a natural act has refilled it! The farmers must not be allowed to keep flooding the surrounding towns!
@Karl with a K I'd say Californias need for water is more important than that family earning a few more millions
@Karl with a K 1. Great name Karl! 2. Wouldnt they have commercial crop flood insurance since the property is in a 100 year flood plain?
We have soooo much snow up here..would be great to see it fully refill.
I'm 61 grew up in the Central valley and have a different perspective... I don't know who the narrator is, but I know he sounds very young but speaks extremely mature clear and concise! Somebody at the top needs to sign him.
Tulare lake and Owens lake were 2 large lakes that directly affected the climate of the state. Both drying up ruined the valleys that they were in.
It's crazy to think Bakersfield used to be as wet as Sacramento or the delta.
I was just in Lone Pine and stopped at Owens Lake, something I do on a regular basis. Owens Valley is above 3,000', very different than the San Juaquin Valley and so are the issues with water. I love Owens Valley, not ruined at all.
I live in WI and we got hit with an atmospheric river almost 15 years ago and they were storms I will never forget. The water carved new channels and ravines overnight. Tons of sinkholes opened. One lake even completely drained bc of all there erosion that happened so quickly
Lake delton!! Yup. Visited that summer and was bummed there was no lake
Born and raised in socal, this winter has made me so happy. Even if the constant rain forced me into roof repair. Seeing snow on hills only a few hundred feet high, finally seeing green instead of dead brown on the hills of long drives. And so many wildflowers. The last few months have been gorgeous and I hope the rain and lake return
I am a lifelong California resident of 44 years I believe in the early 1980s part of the lake returned I was so young I don't recall it but I am happy to see it now.
I would like to see at least a portion of this lake permanently return along with Owens lake just south of Bishop these two lakes had their water stolen for a hundred years literally and although I absolutely support farming and agriculture as it is what feeds the world not to mention it is honest blue collar work. I also would like to strike a balance with nature.
At one time Tulare lake was one of the best fisheries in the world I would like to see that return, California doesn't need the lakes permanently dried off but allowing the lakes to naturally reform and leaving at least a portion of the lake the way mother nature intended it I got a feeling would be excellent for the surrounding environment including the water table and the local weather.
We can afford to restore a land area equivalent to 1-2% of the entire valley. it is well worth
Who knows, perhaps Californians can enjoy malaria once again!
"Swedish naturalist Gustav Eisen, who crossed the lake by steamboat in 1878 and undertook an excavation of Sand Ridge probably that same year, celebrated the desiccation. He wrote,
'In my opinion the drying up of Tulare Lake is a good thing. The land will be good for crops and there will be less sickness in the vicinity. The sloughs and marsh land in the old days used to be full of malaria that will now be a thing of the past.'"
@@megaboz42
Your argument that comes from an industrialist, who in some ways was an environmentalist but regardless was a product of his time and didn't have the insight of 150 years of study of California's Central Valley and to top it all off he would have what you would call a conflict of interest in today's world since he did own a farm in Fresno which used water that historically would have fed Tulare lake but I digress. He was definitely a product of the the late 19th century and had an industrialist attitude his argument doesn't hold up under scrutiny and modern insight so let's take a look shall we.
I don't know if you have ever driven up highway 99 or not nor do ai know how familiar you are with California geography as a whole So I'm first going to review it with you.
Basically as soon as you get over the grapevine you end up in the Central Valley on What is considered the I-5 corridor, the I-5 makes it way to the highway 99, the 99 is a gentle right still heading north but up the east side of the valley, interstate 5 heads up the west side of the valley basically connecting back up with the 99 in Sacramento metropolitan area, before Sacramento all the way down to the grapevine It is essentially farmland from the west side of the valley to the east side of the valley minus the few cities (Fresno Bakersfield being too great examples of relatively large cities) and a ton of small towns that are in All that farmland.
Now that we are clear on the geography let's take a look at what you said.
There are tens of thousands of miles of canals and stagnant water in this giant valley plus tons of small collection ponds and that is literally not figuratively as California to this day has one of the most comprehensive irrigation and water movement systems in the entire world and that doesn't also include all the water catchment reservoirs (some are misnamed as lakes but they are technically reservoirs) such as lake Isabella, lake kaweah, lake success, pine flat lake, Millerton lake, Eastman lake, Don Pedro reservoir, new Malone's lake, New Hogan lake, Comanche reservoir, Folsom lake and I am sure there are a bunch more that I am missing All of these lakes hold water some of that water ends up becoming drinking water for California's large population centers but a majority of that water ends up getting used on farmland as irrigation. Every reservoir I just mentioned is basically south east of Sacramento with Folsom being due east. Together all of these reservoirs are literally hundreds of square miles You don't have to take my word on any of this You can look it up on Google maps, lake Isabella full pool is over 11,000 acres by itself and it is one of the smaller reservoirs in the Sierra Nevada's, I forget which reservoir it is but one of the reservoirs is almost as large as lake Tahoe It is giant for a man-made reservoir and none of these reservoirs I mentioned are in the northern part of the state.
As I stated above I absolutely support and love our farming community I'm very proud of All those that do the hard work that goes into being a farmer In my opinion it is one of the most respectable jobs in the history of humanity. Now that being stated if a small portion of that water was diverted to the natural lake Tulare, wildlife would come back to the region, It isn't just waterfowl like ducks and geese but it is birds of prey It is keystone mammals like beavers and all the other native animals in the Central Valley region that are almost unseen today. It is also a fair and wise assessment to believe that The water table would raise back up and in case you did not know during the last drought California sank in the Central Valley some areas 15 or 20 ft from all the water pulled out of the water table literally the land subsided and sank. Tulare lake, Buena Vista lake, and Kern lake were natural lakes that used to refill and replenish the water table Not to mention sustain thousands of native Americans and early settlers in California. These were not seasonal lakes but we're giant fisheries and wildlife areas. The same goes with Owens lake out on the edge of Death Valley.
Owens lake is now getting a little bit of water across the bottom of it because the city of Los Angeles lost a lawsuit because the lake bed was blowing up silt for hundreds of miles that was considered fine particulate matter. That area used to hold elk and many other large game animals not to mention the water foul and all the other animals that we were talking about a moment ago.
Tulare lake is almost 200 miles due west, It is some of the most productive farmland in the United States but growing crops such as cotton or alfalfa in the semi-arid region of The central valley isn't logical or smart it is a waste of resources, Tulare lake should it be a seasonal lake nor should long-term crops such as pistachio trees or stone fruit trees be growing in an area that has the potential of flooding and killing the crops The California taxpayers should not be on the hook for when these farms go underwater as we are now currently witnessing and we haven't even hit the great snow melt that will happen in May and June of this year. A small portion of this lake should be returned to mother nature It would be better for the environment and other than a few pissed off huge conglomerate farms that own a majority of the lake bed nobody would miss the farm land.
I will almost guarantee if the lake was returned back to a natural state the amazing outdoor recreational potential would make way more money in the modern world than some cotton and alfalfa feed fields.
By the way in reference to your comment about malaria Antiparasitic and Antibiotics are a thing As we don't live in the 19th century we live in the 21st century.
Drugs like Chloroquine (The one all the liberals got mad about during the height of the pandemic a few years ago because people found out that it worked to kill the virus).
Were literally invented to fight malaria. In other words malaria isn't a problem It's why you rarely hear about it in the industrialized world these days It's not like mosquitoes disappeared It's we have treatments to make it not a threat.
owens water not stolen, research the watterson brothers and inyo-kern bank. you've been lied to.
@@AtomicReverend Very well stated!
Restore Tulare Lake !!!!
What blows my mind, is that these people all act shocked that a lake will have water in it.
I grew up in both the Sacramento valley and the Mendocino coast but left California at the end of 2010. I miss my home state and long to return but I've been priced out. I'm rooting for the lake and am excited to see how California changes over the next 60 years.
My grandparents grew up and lived their entire lives in the Tulare County area. My grandfather was a cotton farmer just outside of Tipton. Water irrigation issues ( basically the lack of water ) were the MOST important issues that concerned my grandad. This was way back in the '60s thru the early '80s until he retired. Even though I had heard of Tulare Lake and seen it on a map, it never occurred to me that one day the entire area would be underwater again. Mother Nature always wins.
I'm also related to the area, my great-aunt was honorary mayor of Lamont. Tulare Lake has come and gone a number of times in the last 30-years, google it.
This is why WE NEED THE LAKE More Now than ever before!
What a wonderfully made and informative video!! Love from Bakersfield CA!! Long live Lake Tulare!!
Replenishing the groundwater or aquifers is really great.
I grew up in Southern California but had never heard about the draining of this lake until I saw the other video. It didn't surprise me that people with money were allowed to do something so drastic and stupid. Now that Mother Nature has reminded folks who is really in charge, we're seeing the folks with money, again, doing whatever they want and, at the point of a gun, protecting their interests even if it involves hurting those without money. Same song, different verse.
Not just people with money look up the Ural Sea
Same song ....same dance all over again. Then people wonder why CA is in such a mess!
The rich think they can move mountains to do their bidding.
But KARMA...will be the last word! 😂
Owens Valley is the same way. LA steals the water and they bottle the rest and ship it around the world while our state dies.
same as it ever was, my friend
We need this lake back now more than ever.
I was born and raised in California, mostly the central and Northern part. To see how the land was losing its water (to places like So Cal) and farming having issues - It is nice to see the water coming back, if a bit drastic!
Huh, 2017 was heavy, almost lost Oroville Dam. Hetch Hechy was built for San Francisco, not LA
I can’t help but think if they hadn’t built in a lake bed, they wouldn’t be having any problems with a lake trying to form on their land.
That kind of thinking isn't going to get someone else to pay for their questionable choice, td.
Californians are incapable of long term planning and in-depth thinking
Sounds like Cali used to have a lush wetland environment full of lakes that would fill each other up & it was destroyed to basically over produce almonds.
Yes, the lakes and swamps were destroyed so we could have more food and other crops such as cotton. The lakes gave us nothing.
@@jameshudkins2210 Do you work for J G Boswell?
The major California cities also pushed for the California water system. Most of the system came from an Act of Congress. It is a Federal, State, County, City and private collaboration, we can not blame any one entity.
@@RikSandstromCalifornia No, not even remote close. I have long been interested in California history. I read "The King of California." They tried to blast the Boswell's but had to admit they did many things right.
I also read a book called "The last days of the Late Great State of California." It told an incredible tale of how much California produces. It is unbelievable, but true. California is the number one or close in about 90+ crops in the Nation and in a few cases the World.
There was a map which showed the relationship of Federal Tax Revenues collected vs. Federal expenditures by State. I looked to see the result on Hippie Cali. California pays so much more to Washington, DC than we receive in return.
California and the Central Valley is a blessing upon our people. J G Boswell is a part of that bounty.
@@jameshudkins2210 Oh wow guys. He read one book.
@That is interesting. The real problem has yet to hit the Tulare Lake Basin. The water in the lake is just a small taste of things to come. California Water Authorities say that the Kern River watershed is 420 percent of average. Which means that the snow in the Kern River headwaters is 4 times normal. A recent video by another youtuber shows Lake Isabella pretty much at capacity. So where will all that water go once the snow starts to melt in the upcoming weeks? Lake Tulare?
Hopefully they are pumping the water as fast as they can to LA. Then they can stop releasing water from Lake Mead and let it fill up a bit.
I read an article earlier today that pondered what would happen if a warmer atmospheric river hit the state in April or May, melting snow quickly. Or if a major heatwave caused spring melts to accelerate. one thing for sure, things are going to remain "interesting" in that region for many months to come.
@@jamestucker8088 : There's no water transfer apparatus - NONE WHATSOEVER - between the Kern River Basin and Southern CA so all that water in the Kern watershed is ONLY going into the San Joaquin Valley.
@@archstanton5973 theoretically as shown in the video it could back up the Kings River, hang a left into the Fresno Slough up through Mendota, Firebaugh and then into the San Joaquin River where it could go up to the Delta then be pumped into the California Aqueduct and then again head south to be pumped over the hill into Southern California.
@@patrickmay8261 : *AND WHAT'S THE POINT OF THAT??*
*WHERE DOES THAT WATER GO ONCE SOUTH OF THE TEHACHAPIs?????????**
*Clearly YOU don't know jack shiiite how hydrology works.*
Mother nature always takes what's hers back.
Indeed she does and rightfully so ❤
Fascinating how complex water pathways can change even over short periods.
I am from there. The Tulare Lake originally had it's shore on my hometown, Lemoore. While the lake basin was allowed to fill, it wasn't even close to reaching it's original size, and doubtfully ever will. Water is always an issue for us, but this was a temporary situation that will resolve by summer.
then you know the size was AREA not depth, and evaporation is high when the surface is greater than the depth.
This is interesting to hear as a Californian, we have Plumas lake in the north valley. I always wondered why this huge subdivision in the middle of nowhere was called lake, and with no lake anywhere near it, well apparently it use to be a lake, that was drained in the 1950’s also for farming.
From my understanding the lake existed because of hydromining. Before the 1950s.
Wow! And, this is something that should be on the front pages of MSM. This is serious! You've done a great service by posting this. Yes, I subscribed.
Boswell deserves this
San Joaquin is t even a river anymore. It’s been dry since the 50s when all the water was stolen. We need more people involved with watershed restoration. Boycott Boswell! Great video!
@Karl with a K WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES!!!
It will be interesting to see what happens when snow melt runoff reaches its peak, which I'm guessing will probably be in May or June.
This year it is likely to be july
@@mdcrumpler probably august at this point
Back in the 70s, just outside of Fresno near the hills we would find Salamanders that fall into the pool from time to time. Now..... they're all gone :(
What an amazing situation. I heard it here first. Thanks.
Wow, it's as though draining lakes to make farmland is a bad idea.
Or diverting water, like the Greeks and Romans did more than 2,000 years ago.
Nature’s counterattack
I agree, but not really a counter attack. It is like that person in line that just steps away to do something they really should not loose there place in line for, and now they're back, and the person at the window knows this and will help the person that stepped out of line anyway because they were there first.
I remember hearing stories of my grandfather fishing for salmon and hunting beavers along the San Joaquin river
The lake can be used for fish culture and as a bonus when it drains it will have been fertilized by the fish culture.
That was apparently the case back in the day, and a thriving industry at that.
Farm extraction of fossil water has lowered the land surface by as much as 35 ft in places - that sunken land cannot be 're-inflated'. And with the end of the generally dry La Nina weather cycle about to be replaced by the generally wetter El Nino event, the (deeper) lake will be with us for many years yet.
not a bad guess.
Californians: Oh no, the drought will kill us for lack of water.
Rains
Californians: Oh no, the rain will kill us for excess of water.
The west is a land of extremes and anyone who has lived west of the Rockies will tell you so. From Colorado to California, Arizona to Montana, we have long stretches of stable weather punctuated by extreme snow or rainstorms. Its why life is so great out here for some of us.
We have Mystic Lake in Riverside county California. It is mainly used by migratory birds. It only appears in wet years, and will completely dry up during the droughts
Yeah it’s filled up pretty good right now
As a native of the San Joaquin Valley and a land owner who may get flooded I am happy to see the valley get wet again, but I feel for displaced ag workers.
We need to do everything possible to keep that lake from being drained again. The benefits vastly outweigh the agricultural opportunities. The farmers there can move. The railroad companies can reroute.
Farmers can actually stay there like they're supposed to. This doesn't involve your woke shit.
Frankly knowing how the state is doing things, I find it fascinating on how it will be done as major billion dollar projects are happening at the moment and within that lakebed. Yeah, I think the lake returning is inevitable and something to just accept, but now the state would have to go back to the drawing board on how to change up decades of developing infrastructure. Like the bullet train that has been under construction for almost 2 decades sort of runs near the place and important roads run through there. let alone the farmers, alot is on the table for a state with such a massive economy that this whole situation California is dealing with is and will damage the power of this state which can either be welcomed or the death blow to a state already dealing with so much (including the amount of money and resources it brings to the nation as a whole). This stuff can and is serious even if we are for it, we will be affected negatively whether we like it or not. But here's to Tulare. Hope things will work out for the better. (I know it definitely will in the long run with some sacrifice)
@@larsord9139 Mainly it's: Replenishing the water table, and reestablishing the local precipitation system to combat desertification of the rest of the valley. Swampy low level lakes like this are also great for migratory waterfowl and general biodiversity.
You ready to grow your own vegetables?
"The farmers there can move" What farmer can move when they'll have no equity in their land? Dumbest statement I've ever read. This is good for the water table, but dang, you have zero sympathy for our fellow Americans.
As I have said already, maybe it is time for government(s) to buy back land in area of Tulare, Kern and Buena Vista lakes, and then improve Friant-Kern canal in such way that it could carry excess water to those basins and possibly expand such canal northwards all the way to the Oroville and use it as flood protection system. (But maybe in case of Oroville it would make more sense to have floodgates diverting water to Dry Creek and flood some depressions and designed areas.) Or maybe just reaching Kings River with "northern canal" would be enough to keep Tulare full to some extent. Over time such occasional diversion could perhaps combat desertification and improve conditions for agriculture.
@Karl with a K haha why you cheering them they made the problem didn’t you hear the video
Thank you so much! This is so fascinating. Ever since the floods in Boulder, CO in 2012 I've been fascinated about water movement and its relationship with urban sprawl. Realistically most of the water containment measures exacerbate the effects of floods. Straightening rivers, putting in levys, tearing out trees, putting in concrete, all makes flooding worse. Then they continue to re-build in the flood plains. In ancient times it was the best agricultural ground in these flood plains. That's why people tended to settle around these areas. But having the knowledge now, if these places get destroyed we need to re-build in better locations and work WITH the rivers, knowing they will always meander and always end up in the lowest areas. We must expect those places to flood that are in the flood plain . . . We should probably build higher than the 100 year flood level as well but that's a harder thing to change after development.
Then you know about the Big Thompson Water Diversion Project which stole water from the West to give to the East.
Native Californian and I have seen the ups and downs of California climate. I am so glad to see the drought has come to somewhat of an end. This video shows great detail information on the effects of man's interference with the land. A loss to some we need all the water we can get as history repeats with droughts.
CA's climate IS NOT changing. It IS called weather.
This is so interesting. Thank you. I, for one, hope the lake stays.
"Nature can only be held back for so long..."
There is another lake in California it is usually a mud puddle and grows during the rainy season. It is called Mystic Lake between Moreno Valley and Hemet, CA. This year's rains has expanded the lake a lot.
Thank you.
Yea I live in San Jacinto. I have seen that lake all the way to Gilman back in the early 90s. It’s pretty close to those days not quite but getting there
It sounds like while there is some pain in letting the lake refill, it is essential to the long term outlook to allow it to happen and to refill the water table. I remember driving through the Southern end of the valley several years back and I was hit by a sand storm while also driving through thick, acrid smog as it just collects up in the Southern end of the valley with nowhere to go. I found before putting a high grade HEPA and carbon filter in my car, especially the high grade carbon filter being important to filter some of that smog out of my car, my eyes would be watering and my lungs burning because the smog was so bad. Everyone was doing at least 90 mph down the road because nobody wanted to be there and was trying to get through as fast as possible.
I have to wonder how healthy the food grown out there really is when it is grown in such disgusting conditions. No wonder so many people develop food allergies. Our food is grown in a toxic soup out there. Literally.
@Karl with a K Farm with what future well water? I mean if you don't refill the lake, but instead divert the water away, the water table doesn't fill back up.
When I went through there several years back as mentioned, I just saw a lot of sand and smog. Not much growing anyway. Like destroying rainforest in the Amazon to grow food, the land gets destroyed and then you can't grow food. Have to move on somewhere else and what was there is barron wasteland.
@Karl with a K 😂
@Karl with a K Question: who owned the land under the water (lake) before it was drained way back. . .?
It'll be interesting to see how each winter plays out over the next few decades. What if these atmospheric rivers become commonplace and California gets blasted almost every winter? What will be the effects on the Central Valley? Of course, it's also quite possible that the drought will return for 7 or 8 more winters....
Just goes to show that despite human knack for clever engineering, nature can reassert itself rather quickly. I just feel for those at the bottom of the economic ladder who will suffer the most from this.
We can only dream. I'd love to separate the west coast from the craziness a bit more. We'll turn las Vegas, Denver, and Missoula into forts/gates
That's actually how California used to always be. I was born in 77. And that's exactly how I remember the 80's.
I think it would be nice if we can have Tulare lake back and all the watersheds in the valleys.
Yeah, keep dreaming.
Thanks for shedding light on this topic!
I feel all those “Pray for Rain” signs all over the valley, had an unintentional build up in power and let loose this year. 😂 Perhaps more thoughts and less prayers.
I hope the lake refills completely to remind and teach big business a lesson. Despite the climate change deniers mother nature is reminding us there are consequences for our actions. Post a new video once the lake is full, we want to see 😊
Please check out the return of the Owens Lake that disappeared because Los Angeles has the rights to hundreds of miles of tributaries that flow east out of the Sierra Nevada. There are no big rivers because the mountains drop off 10,000 feet into the Owens Valley in only a few miles. None of the water makes it to the ocean as it stays in the Great Basin, but it's plenty of water for the Los Angeles of the early 19th century. They took an incredible green place and turned it into a dry desert and its amazing lake dried up and its minerals blow around in the air creating dangerous air quality.
It helped SoCal grow. It helped win WW2. It helped create the 5th largest economy in the world.
@@b14m23 Of course it did, but if the New World was never conquered, the original human inhabitants wouldn’t have been murdered and marched into Reservations where they could no longer take care of themselves?
Maybe we should have no National Parks because valuable resources cannot be mined or old growth forests chopped down?
How far do you want to take development?
Should Los Angeles also take all of Mono Lake’s tributaries and let Mono Lake dry up as well?
@@b14m23 Maybe Yosemite Valley should be dammed up like Hetch Hetchy Valley or the Grand Canyon could hold an incredible amount of water. Why let so much fresh water flow out to the Pacific Ocean? A dam could be built under the Golden Gate Bridge and the entire ecosystem could be changed. Locks would allow cargo ships in and out, maybe fish ladders could help different species still migrate.
Maybe you would like the Government to own all land like in Communist China? It makes it simple to build high speed trains wherever you want to build them. There is no opposition, at least that’s not been arrested!
@@mitchellbarnow1709 5th largest economy in the world has costs. You could live in a place like Bangladesh or Mexico, work hard and still go hungry if you miss a days work.
@@b14m23 I agree with you and I do try to tell people how lucky we are to be in this country. You can be born in North Korea and have no chance for freedom. I thank you for your input, you are a very intelligent person.
California must not have a very strong DNR, in WI the DNR would never let you drain wetlands or a lake. That water has to change the dynamics of the fault zones in the area too. I suspect that the extra weight will likely cause problems if not in the valley then elsewhere.
Exactly….I am waiting for it 😢
You've done an excellent job with this video. Your research is sound, good, relevant graphics, and you're a good writer. Well done. I'm also a native of So. CA and grew up during CA's halcyon days when it truly was Shangri-la. I'm going to check out your other videos now, new sub.
Summary- The California drought is over. And the Lake Should be kept there so California doesn't have drought again. It was a mistake to build so many towns on a natural flood plane Lake in the first place.
Drought isn't over, just abated for now. Maybe if they have another 4-10 years like this, then the drought could be said to be over. This is just short reprieve for now
They should just own it and build the town ontop of the lake. Have it like spirited away bit where she’s traveling on the train.
Would immediately become a massive tourist attraction
Right fill it up deep and make the middle and the train a attraction
Gotta say, that is indeed interesting
So cool. Thanks for putting this together.
Boswell should have got their’s a long time ago. This is karma on back order, finally needing to be paid.
Honestly, I'm rooting for the lake, it should not only be allowed to return, but protected as well.
Won't the existence of Tulare Lake help replenish the ground water?
yes, and keep it that way. will help the meteorological water budget too
Great work man!
There must have been some wild emotions when the rail company broke down the dams meant to save the town.
@karlwithak1835i would think intentionally flooding a town is the more criminal action, at the very least its the most unethical one. You seem the be a corporate shill based on all of your comments.
@@jasonreed7522 Take a brief look at their channel. 100% braindead corporate B.S.
Thanks for outstanding content and including how the draining of natural lakes and watersheds contribute to the desertification of California.
I grew up in Visalia, CA. During the 90s. It was very pretty with trees everywhere, I went back in 2006 and it's all just concrete and houses with no yards or greenery 😢
I really hope they decide to save the lake
How does that apply to the lake? The dams were put into place to save the water for year round irrigation !! Before that the water flooded and then was lost as it flowed down stream.
There was great salmon fishing in the San Joaquin in the early years. They could take a ship all the way to Fresno, salmon fishing along the way.
I pray so much that the california government swoops in and purchases out all of the land and returns the lake to its original state. california deserves to have this natural wonder restored. every other location around it would benefit as well as the lake would increase the available water in the general atmosphere in the area, known as "evapotranspiration". This is similar to why the amazon is as wet as it is, because of all the water /already/ there. This would significantly raise the available water on a year over year basis in such an otherwise dry and desert-like area in California.
just don't pay that arse too much. Growing cotton in a area it shouldn't. despicable.
that's a terrible idea,
I live in the area and remember hearing about it when growing up and how local tribes would hunt and fish the lake. There has been talk of some ski resorts staying open until June this year, so there will be a healthy stream of water heading there throughout the summer.
Eastern Sierra ski areas open that long, but the water flows East? A "native" would know that.
@@nuqwestr Tulare lake is on the west side and the water that is filling it is flowing west cause that side of the mountains has snow as well. LOL. Not sure what the east side of the mountain range has to do with Tulare lake. But heck, I've only lived here for a little over 50 years.
Certainly this will lead to unfortunate hardship, mostly on those who were never responsible for the actions that led to these consequences in the first place. In the end, though, it seems this lake will always be a natural occurrence which, even if these companies and communities managed to curtail or remove again, will only return in time--perhaps in an even more devastating event than this. For those looking at this purely from the perspective of those corporations and communities, this basin may no longer be a worthwhile investment for those activities. From an economic standpoint, this land will cost more to keep dry. From an environmental standpoint, the lake filling back up is a truly rejuvenating event. The potential for human, animal, and plant benefits of this lake can not be understated. Further, returning back to that economic perspective, this lake, should it be allowed to refill without too much interference, could be a great boon for water related leisure and industry--not to mention the well of fresh water for use in crops or daily consumption.
The lake NOT being there is an anomaly caused by us. No matter what we do, that lake will try and reform again and again, destroying infrastructure and costing the state (and by extension the country) millions of dollars. There is no solution here where everyone affected is happy and nobody suffers. In the long run, though, these weather events will keep happening, this lake will keep filling, and anyone continuing to live and work in the area will have to deal with the consequences of that. It would seem the most environmental, economic, infrastructural, human conscious path forward involves allowing the lake to reform.
My heart goes out to the everyday folks and communities who will be impacted severely by this change. For the corporations that put them in this losing position, though, I have nothing but contempt. If not for them, the lake would have never been drained and the people whose homes and livelihoods are now threatened or underwater would never have had to deal with this. As usual, it's always these companies and corporations causing problems for everyone else with little to no regard. I guess this might be one of those rare cases where they'll be under the lake too, so I guess there's a small justice in that...
From my understanding most of the lake would only be 3ft deep but up to 30 in some spots.
Good grief Karten.
@@danielevans3932 the lake when full would hold twice as much water as the great salt lake at full pool. Guess we should dry out the great salt lake and put a golf course there
@@Sparticulous They're already working on it.
Well said👏👏👏 I salute you...
Great video. Very informative and to the point.
Utah got hit by the same atmospheric rivers as California we have broken every snow total in the state from these major storms.
Yes, the Colorado Basin will run to Glen Cyn Dam, Lake Powel, and then some to Lake Mead, it's a begining.
Nicely done video with lots of great information!
your presentation seems a cut above the usual of this kind of channel, thumbs up
Nice work man. Keep it up!
glad to see them getting so much water, even if it causes some troubles
Well done. I'd love to see more about CA's water system. That was all meat, no lettuce. Legit!
Looks like a navigable waterway. Time to call in the EPA and protect the natural body of water! Looks like a national park now. Sorry cotton guy.
History shows again and again how nature shows the folly of men... This was interesting. Thanks Carter!
Tulare Lake is back for the better. Let's not drain it again.
So raising the water table by natural percolating lake beds increases the overall area of productive farm land. Keep the lake.
We're not gonna have many REGULAR lakes left if we keep fucking around the way we have been
The Great Salt Lake is basically already a was.
Not after this year.
@@robbhays8077 Nah, like today. Salt lake gone
That was already drying up
2:15 there should be laws that say no buildings or vital infrastructure should be allowed in the former lake basin.