the sound from S4 mk3 sounds like crap , had b4 S2 mk1 and that was clear sound with soundcard from cirrus logic , but this new controller ? I hate it for that and I use XLR outputs
I have the s4 Mk3 but need a laptop to use it. Can I use an I pad w the new operating system with this controller? Or should I get a laptop? Any help is appreciated
Great review! I've been a Traktor software user since they were partnered with Stanton (Final Scratch). I stayed Vinyl until Native Instruments went DVS with the Audio 8, and have only used Traktor specific Controllers beginning with the Pioneer DDJ-T1. Being from Serato Saturated NYC, I definitely caught a lot of resistance with my fellow DJs. Until they WATCHED me show them what Traktor can do. I love the fact that NI makes hardware with the tightest integration with the software than any other Controller/Software combo on the market. As a turntablist, the S4 MK3 is what I always wanted from NI, especially after playing on Numark's NS7. I've had my MK3 since they first hit the market, and couldn't be more satisfied (except for lack of independent mic input).
At this point what would you recommend for someone who wants a controller with spinning jog wheels? I've had the s4 1 and 2 and I'm looking to upgrade and I'm kinda debating between the the S4 mk3 or the NS7. I would probably go for the NS7 if I could use traktor software with it.
@Dom Wells yeah I did bro and it was the best thing I have done for my djing so far tbh I dont use the stems really and rarely use the sample loop feature but it has made me 10x better at beatmatching as I only do it by ear now because of the 4 decks so much going on, at first the effects was a bit complicated but i have learned and they are so much better because of how detailed they are. If you want to be a better dj from my experience I would 10/10 recommend this controller. Also fun to put things on the decks while they spin.
@Dom Wells yeah, i thought if im gettin a 4 deck controller may aswell get one that isnt limited with the effects an that, and wanted the screens on the decks they are so handy
I love traktor. I use it for over 13 years now. My whole setup and everything is build around it. I do my gigs and all with it. I use two turntables a Z2, X1 and F1 (see my channel). I really missed a controller like this to make myself more mobile. Especially for smaller gigs it would be great. The thing is though, we Traktor users a very, very 'handicaped'. When we step into a booth where we find 'the club standard' setup we can do literally nothing... We have no 'prepped' USB stick. No prepped cue points, no loops, no playlists and look at the hardware like: 'where do I start...?' And this makes the time for me to switch over to Rekordbox. And this means also, the DDJ 1000 so I also can learn how all these, for me totally weird and unknown hardware components work... I really feel bad though. Like stepping out of a marriage... But I have to choose for myself because Traktor kind of holds me back in my development.
Totally agree man. I'm also a traktor user, and have been for a long time. Iv been bringing my s4mk2 or at the very least my x1 to all my gigs. All the bars and clubs I do have pioneer sx3s now or serato controllers. None are supported by Traktor, I'm now looking into rekordbox/serato to make my life a bit easier.
Same here I come from Traktor never cared for the controllers S4 is a nice controller maybe more for younger newbies those small spinning jogs are funny too me gimmick, toyish doesnt fit the original reason for wanting spinning on tables,just dont fit Traktors brand, to me its greed marketing how they come from a controller with no jogs at all to spinning 5 inch jogs.
Well, same here but in that case all you have to do in such booths is to plug your laptop&soundcard to the club’s mixer then have 1 or 2 Kontrol X1’s to control Traktor..This is actually the standard setup of many Big names in the industry. Then, for other gigs you lash out your Kontrol S4 Mk3 😎
Hey buddy what Pioneer controller is maximum close to "the club standard" setup? I am looking to buy a Pioneer controller. Using Traktor since 2000, have tons of Traktor gear but started to feel the same that you wrote. Thanks.
My S4 arrives tomorrow. I cancelled my DDJ-1000 order from wednesday cause i learned the phono converters are bad, and for DVS you now need a subscription. I was able to buy the S4 new for 730 and even though i am missing out on Beatport Link i still feel its a much better choice and your video underlined it.
I been using traktor for years I’ve head serato and traktor is dope and u can really do so much in the software tuning it to your liking people don’t be afraid to be different and don’t. Let other djs til u serato is best wat is best for them may not be best for u explore find your self I’ve had serato djs play in my kontrol s2 mk2 and Scratch they where shocked how tight and Accurate the scratching and the fader was 💯🔊🎶👌🏾
Traktor is the Industry leader in Digital performance. Pioneer’s software is really more suited for preparing tracks before using them on Pioneer equipment such as CDJs. Traktor is the more creative option for most innovative performances. Pioneer is great too, but I feel it’s more geared for the DJ Heads (I enjoy all methods of performing so I choose both lol)
Thanks for this video! I have been a long time Traktor user and was considering getting the DDJ-1000 (for mobile addition) but found out the other day one issue for me that you cannot put different fx on different channels! Thanks for showcasing this on the S4 mk3, I sometimes like mixing with 4 channels where I might have have a channel or two on a loop with an effect and not often but it has been something I like to remix with and think that the S4 will continue allow me to do this if I get another controller. And yes yes the form factor! Thanks for a great and detail video. Smaller venues tight spaces I used the Novation Launchpad S with a Traktor mapping or I also use my Native Instruments Maschine Jam with a Traktor mapping. Great mentioning of the Wee-Go, I was at an (non club but was for performing artists) event and the dj was using the wee-go and was turned it out!!!! So yeah just like all art forms it is not about the software or tech but the Artist engaging the audience. A+++ to your video!
The S4 Mk3 is great. I got suprised by all the customization you can do in Traktor Pro 3 so now i've made my own features for it. And at a much lower price.
The DDJ 1000 is pretty big in comparison. I have a soft case for transporting and it’s not the easiest to lug around. I plan on filming a video on the 1000 this weekend!
Great! I can't wait to see your new video! I saw both controllers in the store today and I thought the new s4 was definitely more practical! However, the pioneer seemed to have been built better. I own the s8 from traktor and really like it, so I'll just stick with that!
Good video! few things to mention Pioneer is a standalone unit you can hook up any extra device and play through the controller regardless if Rekordbox is running or not cant do that with the Traktor s4 which sucks big time, the size is not a big issue im pretty sure if you can fit the s4 in a booth spot few more inch is available to fit the DDJ 1000 I have a Sr and 1000 I have not had any issues with size most spot I played at is cut out for a full setup 2cdj and mixer, IMO it comes down too software Traktor or Rekordbox.
Rich Moog Hi man, i recently i sold my s4 mk2 and i bought a ddj1000, but now i'm hating Rekordbox !! 1 - I miss Traktor. Is the s4 mk3 a good choice ?? 2 - Are the Faders and sound quality of S4 mk3 better than S4 mk2 ??
@@ignalanus The mk3 nails it BIG TIME! The quality of it's build is a huge jump up from the mk2 and the additional effects are a very welcome addition.
love my traktor F1/S4 setup but I'm going back to playing out (carry a couple usb flash drives vs laptop / controller ect) so the DDJ1000 is the only way to get into the recordbox universe as well as getting a handle on club standards. Pioneer has one of the best hustles going and set the industry $tandard with this Mercedes priced DJ gear. good overview.
i bought the DDJ-1000 since a couple of months right now and it rocks ! it's solid, the jogwheels are the same that in the CDJ-2000 nexus and the mixer is the same that a djm-900. I learn Rekordbox but i prefer all the way Traktor. I had before the Traktor S2 and then the Pioneer DDJ-SX. I think that if NI released this new S4MK3 a couple of months before i bought it rather than the DDJ-1000 for the portabillity and also because NI has changed the jogwheels feeling with motor plattern ! Finally my conclusion is that these 2 controllers are the best of the market right now...trust me
I also prefer traktor, but like the CDJ jogwheels. So thats why I've mapped the DDJ-1000 to TP3 please have a look at this video and detailed manual: ua-cam.com/video/EkSJ9Ug9Zuk/v-deo.html maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/9279 facebook.com/pedro.vale.estrela/media_set?set=a.2244380098947850
Hi man thank you for the review! I'm starting to learn how to DJ, at 54 lol, and I'd love a powerful yet portable controller with powerful software on which to standard DJing but also do some remixes, live remixes, both with electronic music but also multigenre remixes, a bit of production and so on. Do you think the S4 MK3 is so far the only one who can do these sort of things? Thank you!!!!!
the advantage of the ddj is that you don't have to bring it in clubs - just take your usb stick with you and play on the cdj's. everything will work the same and be familiar, no need to manage two libraries
Wanted to add that Rekordbox does not support AMD chips. Just brought my DDJ-1000 home and could not get to work. Traktor works with both chip sets, now ordering the s4
man loving this video! i'm looking to upgrade to a S4 Mk3 or a DDJ-1000 from a MIxtrack pro 3 serato setup because i feel my entry level controller is limiting my sets. I still DJ small venues and pubs for top 40 and hip hop and still consider myself a beginner/mid level. My end game is to DJ on a pioneer system but should i jump to the S4 before i get into a DDJ 1000
I guess ur problem is about size, of course DDJ 1000 is big controller with the size of the Jog’s which must of DJ want on any controller, I’m mobile DJ and I traveled around without no problem with DDJ 1000 in flight case, Some mobile DJ even travel with CDJ and S9. In my opinion DDJ 1000 suit mobile DJ who want have the club style controller and also for me personally, it about the future reference with Rekordbox, with the effort they are putting in making Rekordbox better. Update after update is 👍
I have the S4 and I’m really happy with it. If you’re thinking about a good controller you won’t regret, I’m telling you. When I got my hands on DDJ1000 I was surprised how cheap it feels, especially jogwheels and pitchfader.
Hi Adrian, is there any way you could help with these questions: How big are the jog wheels on the S4 and can you use it on Cross DJ the Android app? Some people say you can but some say the mapping doesn't work. Thank you so much
@@londonsounds6212 They are 14cm in diameter and really well built and got quality feel, at least in comparison to the Pioneer's ones. It looks to me that Pioneer is a bit overrated and definately overpriced, but it's only my opinion and only if speaking about this price range of controllers, because I have Pioneer's HDJ S7 headphones and they are great. I compared them with Sennheiser's HD25 and the only advantage of HD25 is that they are lighter. I don't know nothing about Cross DJ app, sorry.
hello..thanks for the great video..I'm the DJ for 18 consecutive years, starting from vinyls with allen & heath xone 62 just released and then switched to cdj 800mk2 and djm800, cdj 350 and djm 800 and finally pioneer xdj-rx .. I bought a MacBook Pro for convenience and power by abandoning Windows and I am considering buying a controller that can make me do a lot more things .. being a pioneer user and rekordbox with the hd analyzed by rekordbox, what do you recommend? Is it worth trying s4 mk3 or staying on pioneer? thanks
(Can anybody help?) Thanks for the comparison. I bought the S4 Mk3 over lockdown and am really satisfied with my purchase. I've been mixing on Technics for 20 years, and love how it works as a stand alone mixer without needing to plug my laptop in! However, I want to use the controller with both the traktor software and my 2 turntables. The layout of the channels (from left to right) is channels C,A,B and D. Channels A & B are the only ones set up to take a phono signal which makes no sense to me, because my turntables are either side of the controller, so i want the channels to reflect the layout - if you follow?? I've heard you can rearrange the layout in the settings on traktor but haven't been able to find a guide on how to do this - can anyone help and point me in the right direction? Thanks
Hi Pavan, is there any way you could help with these questions: How big are the jog wheels on the S4 and can you use it on Cross DJ the Android app? Some people say you can but some say the mapping doesn't work. Thank you so much
@@londonsounds6212 hi mate, if you are just starting out, I strongly recommend that you go with the pioneer controllers. Most dj booths have cds and it is NOT a smooth transition between them atleast software wise and you’ll feel frustrated. I have also bought a ddj400 out of necessity.
@@PavanMS87 bro i used to mix on 1210s and scratch, I'm really envious of the motorised wheel on the S4 thats why I want it. I had a DDJ200 and couldn't scratch on it. The 400 doesn't have motorised wheel. Is there any way I can use the S4 but without a laptop? Some people say you can mix on an app called Cross DJ on Android and the S4 can use it? Thanks mate
I have Ddj T1 and I love to use Traktor. The size is less 3cm than Ddj 1000. I love Ddj 1000 and don't care about size is not that big for a club. Im gonna try un-oficial map for Ddj 1000, if I like it a still use Traktor, if not I'm gonna change for Rekordbox. I wish Native-instruments release an official map for that controller. Even Virtualdj has a map with jog screens working why don't NI make it also? The only thing I don't like in NI controllers are size of jog wheels. They may be very responsive but it's not the same thing and I already try S4 Mk3
What about the sound quality comparison when you are hooking up to a club mixer? Surely pioneer being the most common equipment pioneer cdc + pioneer mixer (at the club) will work better? Yea I know there is a mixer built in but the clubs gonna say go through their mixer right?
If you had to choose between the two, which one would you choose? They both measure up in volume for a club? Who sounds better and more response at the start? I'm about to buy one of the 2, the effects of traktor feel much more defined , I need you to help me say, thank you.
Is this really a valid comparison? The DDJ-1000 is 50% more money. Ideally, I'd love to see Pioneer DJ release a DDJ-600/800 to compete more directly with the new S4 mk3.
If pioneer makes a more compact controller with similar features of the DDJ-1000 and lower price sure but that controller may never come to life. The only controller they have which doesn’t have nearly as many features is the DDJ-RR which I used to own. I used the RR for a few years before I purchased the 1000.
I would recommend Traktor for better haptic and scratching with the motorized jog wheels. It’s getting a big update soon that will make it even more like other DJ software! Link: www.google.com/amp/s/djtechtools.com/amp/2019/01/24/traktor-pro-3-1-coming-with-parallel-waveforms-s4-mk3-standalone-mixer-mode//
And I would definitely recommend DDJ 1000 over S4 - industry standard size mechanical jog wheels from CDJ 2000 Nexus MK2, wtf on so cheap controller club standard platters from 2000 USD players? Forget that nudging and mixing on that S4 things are same as on clubs CDJs, CDJ jogs are totally different thing, and i dont really see benefits to have motorised small jogs with differnet nudge movement than you have in club on CDJs. DDJ also has same cue / play buttons and same pitch. Player layout - looping buttons, browsing knob, etc (muscle memory works) is bonus. - yes you can do different things on Traktor effects, but DDJ 1000 has standalone hardware DJM 900 style color and beat effects, and its really usefull to know how to use them, in most clubs are DJM mixers and you can also combine them with Rekordbox pad effects as bonus - headphone output is more louder than it was on S4 MK2, where it was really low in noisy enviroment - you dont look like total amateur with small semi-pro controller when in club are CDJs, only because you doent use them. When there are only turntables and you bring this, every CDJ DJ is ok with it, DDJ 1000 looks like, and is, Pro gear. - when you move to Rekordbox, you havent to import whole your collection to new update installation, all updates use same collection, not in Traktor, where with every update you have to import whole data. Second thing updates on Traktor had very often bugs so better was to stay away for whil, google number of version with keyword bug and than choose if to update or not or downgrade - on RB you have waveform previews a 200% better collection management, trust me you will fall in love with tagging possibilities - Traktor will have in 3.1 same horizontal waveforms as RB or Serato, after 8 years of waiting for update from v2 to v3 - on RB you can export whole collection on single click to USB flashstick drive and use all analysis, cuepoints, playlist on any CDJ player - on RB when any DJ comes with his flash stick for CDJs its working, he can use his CDJ drive and play! - RB and DDJ 1000 layout and feeling are same as Nexus CDJ/ DJM, so every pro DJ is happy to play from it, i dont know any CDJ DJ who wanted to play from my old Traktor controller - last thing that Native instruments has very bad after waranty service, when cue point button on my old S2 stoped working czech distributor told me that only solution is exchange for refurbished unit for 300 EUR, and seller where i bought it told me that its mostly unpossible to open it, take away motherboard and repair it. Half price of whole unit for one button repaitr? Same price distributor told me for service broken USB B port on NI Audio 10 soundcard 300 EUR for usb port. NI custommer support than offered me price 50 EUR for that 1 EUR port. So my advice is go in DDJ
Hey Chase! Love the vid. I got a question: when using the mic, must it be connected to deck C/D? Is there a way to use the mic without occupying a deck? I know in Pioneer CDJ 1000, the microphones pretty much has a channel for itself. Can you do that with Traktor s4?
It does not appear so. I was playing around with my S4 earlier and it seems a deck is the only way. My current setup goes out of the S4 and into a small Mackie mixer, which has XLR inputs for a microphone that I can EQ and adjust separately and keep 4 decks for music.
Question chase... the S4 mk3 came out over 2 yrs ago. I'm a traktor guy and I'm ready to upgrade from my mk2. The mk3 is nice but native instruments/traktor has kind if disappeared. What do you think the future is for traktor dj? And should I go to serato or record box
Native instruments is very much alive, check their socials like YT or FB, I just asked them whether they plan on creating a standalone or perhaps even an actual nexus
They feel really nice. The top of the platters feel smooth and responsive. I plan on doing another video talking about the best features this controller has to offer.
The S4 is almost the perfect profesional controller but it doesn’t have In-Out Loop buttons, I literally went to the store to buy it when it came out and right when I noticed that I got really sad and went back home with empty hands. They REALLY screwed that up
Can you talk about the one shot mode. Want to know if the one shots you load all have to be the same bpm. Not just a snare or bass note, I'm talking about horns and stuff?
Hola !Muchas gracias por la demo esta genial. No consigo hacer funcionar el micrófono con la traktor s4mk3 ¿sabrias decirme porque puede ser? muchas gracias!
Cool video however you are missing most crucial point of DJ controller. Size do not matter in this case because you do not take your pioneer controller to gigs. Which is even better compared to traktor gear that you have to take with you. Why? Because everywhere in the world there is professional pioneer mixer and CDJs already waiting for yuu in the DJ booth. That is the point of using Pioneer controllers. you practice at home and leave them at home. You us dj gear in the club which IS compatible with all your music thanks to Rekordbox. You just take your pen-drive or your laptop if you like. You can take controller to house party which should not be a problem. but for real DJ work you use real DJ gear that will read all your music files no problem. So... in my books DDJ1000 wins. Plus you have standalone mixer with hardware FX.
I was about to say the same thing. Nice video but the end comparison misses the point. If you use Traktor buy the S4 MK3 like me. If you use RB buy the DDJ-1000 if you can't afford a full Nexus 2 setup, use it at home for practice and when you go to the club leave it at home and use the Nexus 2 gear in the club via your USB.
I Use the DDJ-1000 for a Perfect Practice and easy to get mixtapes out. If i go to Gigs its 100% that the CDJ2000Nxs and a DJM 800 as a minimum. If a club got no CDJ's and are not willing to Rent i can take the DDJ-1000 for a extra price. And never i had a person look to me wow that i big. People more look and think its a same setup as CDJs with DJM.. So what i think it just looks more Professional then a small controller even if it got the same stuff on it. ... Keep the video's going. i really like them.
@@cheefr0berts i think most smaller clubs in US got no CDJ's and DJMs like in EU/ NL. Here the gear is in every small club but in US there is more with drive-in djs clubbing and the dj needs to take everything with them. Even lights sometimes. Look at Rick Webb with his Club nights.
@@KlineGames Sure we have the same thing here in the UK if the club is really small and only there for renting for example. You can use both the DDJ-1000 and Kontrol S4 MK3 without the need for a mixer and/or CDJ setup. If you are making a choice between the 2 you need to take the following into consideration: what you are used to or what you are trying to achieve. If you are used to mixing on Pioneer or want to get used to a CDJ setup go for the Pioneer. If you are a Traktor user then go for the NI controller. That is the simple choice to make. I am a Traktor user so I bought the S4. I used RB recently with XDJ-1000s and thought the beat sync was not very good (RB analysis is not as good as Traktor) and limited creativity (pre-set saved loops and beatjump of 32 beats etc) of RB is just not as good as NI so it didn't make me want to swap. RB as a DJ software is quite new compared to Traktor that has been around for over a decade and has improved a lot in that time. Of course Pioneer is the pro way to go but I DJ mostly at home so it was a no-brainer for me. I am interested what the new CDJ or XDJ will look like as I feel the Nexus 2 is now outdated, especially when you compare it to the Denon SC5000 and SC5000M.
@@cheefr0berts Completely agree the syncing on pioneer controllers is definitely not as good as traktor. Also the OP misses the point. If you are a playing a 6 hr set all night at a bar and taking requests you are not bringing a USB stick for CDJ's to a club, neither would you want to lug a DJ1000 around. I take my s2 to the bar when im playing a long set, works perfectly and takes up minimal space in teh booth.
J H for me it was a $1.50 and I live in California. I paid with PayPal and if I had any issues they can issues me a refund! I bought the S4 and S2 from their website.
Pioneer ddj-1000 all the way for me , your video is not a fair test , size doesn’t matter because i wouldn’t take the ddj- 1000 to a club, I would only need to take my laptop or usb stick ,I have been a traktor dj for many years but I’m so glad I have move to rekordbox, if you are deciding between the 2 , go for the pioneer ddj-1000 and be a pro and feel comfortable with any club standard set up 👍.
Have you ever used the new MK3 or Traktor Pro 3 Software before? It’s changed a lot from previous NI controllers. I think it comes down to personal preference tbh. Pioneer effects still are meh when compared to Traktors. For me I prefer using Traktor Pro for EDM and Recordbox DJ for Multi Genre mixing. Both are great in different ways 🤙🏼
@@chaseme what specific problems does traktor have when it comes to mixing multi genre's..Cuz I am open format dj looking to buy either the mk3 or ddj-1000...Good video btw
@@Zigla the biggest problems are no elastic beatgrids, and no smart playlists. I solve the first for myself with manual beatmix, the second with a really clean organization of dozens of genres and subgenres organized by decade/year
I believe this controller sounds way better cleaner and deeper than pioneer 1000 which sounds bright or too bright for me.. even if traktor has less effects they sound better not talking about sick jog wheels. :) thanks.
Friends, good afternoon, I'm from Brazil. I use a Kontrol S4 01 for 7 years, and I like Traktor and I'm doing a course with DJ, with Rekordbox but I realize that Traktor is better for me, I'm going to do aatroka for S4 MK3, my friend is in Deytona Beach. bring me if all goes well .. Good Luck to all ..
Dina they did upgrade the sound quality to use a “Pro-grade 24-bit / 96-kHz audio interface [with] 2x stereo phono/line inputs, 2x stereo line inputs, 2x mic inputs (XLR and 1/4″ / 6.3 mm TRS), 2x stereo main output (phono/line and XLR), 1x stereo booth output (1/4″ / 6.3 mm TRS), 2x mirrored headphone outs”. Basically this is on bar with the sound quality Pioneer flagship equipment use like the CDJ 2000 NX2 and DJM 900 NXS2. It also has a new limiter feature in Traktor Pro 3. Compared to my friends traktor S4 MK3 it doesn’t sound as harsh or distorted when turned up at higher volumes.
@@@chaseme, Thank you for your quick response with real life sound test experience which I was looking for ( not the marketing numbers advertised ). In your opinion which one sounds better or fits your taste , S4 MK3 or the Pioneer DDJ-1000 ?
Dina Digital music is digital music, its about the mp3 quality of your tracks & external equipment.. not the controller itself. Want to hear amazing quality, get vinyl and turbtables.
Dina for a real life test they both sound great. Maybe I can film a video showcasing both controllers playing the same track and record it with a mic! Also it depends on the files you play through your controller. Mainly I try and use WAV. Files if possible or 320KB MP3!
@@TomKaosOfficial you are basically saying there is no sound card inside the controller, which is not the case. Chase Me @ stated here that in his opinion MK3 sounds better than MK2 . DJ controllers have an internal sound card for the audio output. Expensive controllers have better sound cards with a better quality audio outputs. Bring a entry level controller into a small club and you will find out right away how "good" it sounds compared with a medium level controller or up.
last year I using s2 mk3 and going to xdj rx but already sell. should I save my money for ddj1000 maybe I"ll save 300usd or just buy the traktor s4? first im thinking about pride even my skill great but how people see ur stuff, is it good concept of my mind or just fuck it what people see?
@@chaseme Awesome! Do you think pioneer will release a newer ddj-1000 version sometime in the beginning of next year like how they did with the xdj-rx?
Sounds From The Underground. Personally I don’t think pioneer with update this model for at least another year or so. Since it already uses the features from the NXS2’s I feel like Pioneer will come out with new CDJ/DJM before the DDJ-1000 gets updated.
I'm a former vinyl DJ wanting to buy a controller. Something a bit above entry price point. I'm swaying towards a pioneer controller. I'm not into remixing tracks. I would like to be able link up my turntables to the controller as well. What would you suggest?
If you’re a vinyl DJ you’ll appreciate the jog wheels of the S4 better. I don’t even personally use the remix decks on the S4. I love the beat jump and effects with this controller. Also have to consider if you’ll like Recordbox DJ or Traktor Pro. You can link up turntables to either controller!
hey buddy! got an unopened S4s but i can upgrade to some DDJ-1000s for a few hundreds...after playing with both for a while would you recommend me upgrading?
It depends on what genres you plan on mixing tbh. Traktor has better FX and is more portable. The DDJ-1000 works great with Recordbox DJ and will help you get used to using CDJs if that’s what you’re going for. I like both and after the new update coming to Traktor Pro 3 in a few months I’ll use it more!
@@chaseme i DJ mostly hip hop, TOP 40 and dance hall..typical club stuff. I heard that traktor is much better at analyzing music..does that mean im going to get wrong BPMs on rekord box..i dont mind fixing grids tho because i do it constantly on my serato..which controller do you use the most
Traktor is great for track analysis and I feel like it’s more reliable software IMO. You’ll be able to Scratch better on the S4 all well and the jog wheels are very nice. The only negative thing is that the BPM doesn’t flex if you have a mashup that changes tempo. In record the BPM adjusts to if a song slows down or speeds up. This may change in the future with a update.
@@chaseme "You’ll be able to Scratch better on the S4 all well and the jog wheels are very nice. The only negative thing is that the BPM doesn’t flex if you have a mashup that changes tempo" are you talking about the DDJ-1000..everyone i spoke to thinks the 1000s is the go to for scratching because of the large job wheels
@@chaseme okay so last question would you recommend the S4 or the 1000s..i've been djing for a year and i still consider myself beginner/intermediate..I currently DJ , bars and small venues,i would like to learn the whole CDJ setup eventually
Personally I find Pioneer brings out way too many controllers. I mean variety is good but I feel like its just more incentive for them to keep moving forward and not caring about past iterations.
Don't see the point.... All the clubs are on pioneer why don't they make it compatible I as about to change my traktor Z2 for this one if it would be compatible but no....
westRtype Hi man, i recently i sold my s4 mk2 and i bought a ddj1000, but now i'm hating Rekordbox !! 1 - I miss Traktor. Is the s4 mk3 a good choice ?? 2 - Are the Faders and sound quality of S4 mk3 better than S4 mk2 ??
Ignacio Lanús Disc Jockeys ddj1000 is a far more solid controller makes S4 feel like a toy. I also hated rekordbox at first but I’m used to it now. You could try this mapping maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/9279
Mike H it doesn’t work :/ I tried it on my iPhone and iPad with the Traktor DJ App. It doesn’t charge when plugged in. I believe they may be redesigning a new Traktor mobile App! The S2 MK3 I believe works with iPad. I may purchase one and try it out 🙌🏼
@@chaseme Thanks for that info. I actually received the mk3 mid week and will set up this weekend. I sure do hope IOS compatibility is on the way.. Thanks again..
Mike H awesome I hope you enjoy it! If I hear any new information I will let you know. I really hope they make a new iOS application for this controller.
@@comradecat1859 Its really hard decision. I mean. The traktor has 4 channels. But Denon has future upgrade support and the company is still in business.
Chase Me It says The traktor s4 need some updates Cus is not conpetible with Mac OS mojave Before it was working good Soon I upgraded mi Mac This thing happens
Chase Me Pls Bro send me your cell number To my mail hondalatina@msn.com And i call you To see if you can help me To install the new traktor s4 Mk3 Thank you
$750 is still too much for the S4mk3 for what it really is. NI added some gimmicks to the existing S4mk2 but still fell short of making it truly competitive in 2019 which is sad.
There's a whole world out there that doesn't want the compact world. The S4 is still too small in many ways which is funny because this time around the S2 and S4 have very little in common. The S2 didn't get the displays or jogs which is bad because now the S2 lacks and the S4 is sitting close to a lot of controllers with better aspect. The S4 is actually the small and big controller at the same time. The S4 should have come in a $799 with a bigger variant of the S4 at the $1000 mark. I was really hoping NI would offer something more than what the S4 mk3 turned out to be. Maybe Rekordbox is the way to go since Serato can't get past the fact that there's more to life than Fresh and Aaagh! and Traktor is still controller challenged unless you want to create a TSI.
fully agreed, thats why I bought the ddj-1000 instead of S4. And I even love more my DDJ-SZ that I have elsewhere. I've mapped the 1000 to TP3, please have a look at this video and detailed manual: ua-cam.com/video/EkSJ9Ug9Zuk/v-deo.html maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/9279 facebook.com/pedro.vale.estrela/media_set?set=a.2244380098947850
I love the smaller form factor. It mean I can pop this and my Maschine in a side bag and be on my way. the S2 though I admit is lacking but for the price its an excellent entry level controller. Also I don't see why the S4 needs to be bigger ? You didn't even mention why.
Have mine. Still can't get any sound from headphone outputs.. I've reinstalled the newest version of traktor pro 3.. at least 5 times .. still no lights on master gain ... Bad ass controller. Don't think you'll ever get any ever get support for Native Instruments I've had this thing for almost a month. No reply. and I'm ready to f****** burn it..!!!
New video out now! Traktor Kontrol S2 MK3 Review + S4 MK3 Comparison! Which is best for you? ua-cam.com/video/0MwOs-hRXJc/v-deo.html
i have the S4 MK3 and i LOVE IT! such a great controller!
i think i will use it for many years :D
♥️ glad you like it!
@@chaseme same bro =) love my life, the sound is insane
the sound from S4 mk3 sounds like crap , had b4 S2 mk1 and that was clear sound with soundcard from cirrus logic , but this new controller ? I hate it for that and I use XLR outputs
I have the s4 Mk3 but need a laptop to use it. Can I use an I pad w the new operating system with this controller? Or should I get a laptop? Any help is appreciated
@@victorztw5339 it has good soundcard?
Great review! I've been a Traktor software user since they were partnered with Stanton (Final Scratch). I stayed Vinyl until Native Instruments went DVS with the Audio 8, and have only used Traktor specific Controllers beginning with the Pioneer DDJ-T1. Being from Serato Saturated NYC, I definitely caught a lot of resistance with my fellow DJs. Until they WATCHED me show them what Traktor can do. I love the fact that NI makes hardware with the tightest integration with the software than any other Controller/Software combo on the market.
As a turntablist, the S4 MK3 is what I always wanted from NI, especially after playing on Numark's NS7. I've had my MK3 since they first hit the market, and couldn't be more satisfied (except for lack of independent mic input).
At this point what would you recommend for someone who wants a controller with spinning jog wheels? I've had the s4 1 and 2 and I'm looking to upgrade and I'm kinda debating between the the S4 mk3 or the NS7. I would probably go for the NS7 if I could use traktor software with it.
Have a pioneer ddj 400 and was looking on upgrading, thanks so much for this video this is exactly what I needed. 👊👊 Traktor here we come 👏
@Dom Wells yeah I did bro and it was the best thing I have done for my djing so far tbh I dont use the stems really and rarely use the sample loop feature but it has made me 10x better at beatmatching as I only do it by ear now because of the 4 decks so much going on, at first the effects was a bit complicated but i have learned and they are so much better because of how detailed they are. If you want to be a better dj from my experience I would 10/10 recommend this controller.
Also fun to put things on the decks while they spin.
@Dom Wells yeah, i thought if im gettin a 4 deck controller may aswell get one that isnt limited with the effects an that, and wanted the screens on the decks they are so handy
I love traktor. I use it for over 13 years now. My whole setup and everything is build around it. I do my gigs and all with it. I use two turntables a Z2, X1 and F1 (see my channel). I really missed a controller like this to make myself more mobile. Especially for smaller gigs it would be great. The thing is though, we Traktor users a very, very 'handicaped'. When we step into a booth where we find 'the club standard' setup we can do literally nothing... We have no 'prepped' USB stick. No prepped cue points, no loops, no playlists and look at the hardware like: 'where do I start...?' And this makes the time for me to switch over to Rekordbox. And this means also, the DDJ 1000 so I also can learn how all these, for me totally weird and unknown hardware components work... I really feel bad though. Like stepping out of a marriage... But I have to choose for myself because Traktor kind of holds me back in my development.
Totally agree man. I'm also a traktor user, and have been for a long time. Iv been bringing my s4mk2 or at the very least my x1 to all my gigs. All the bars and clubs I do have pioneer sx3s now or serato controllers. None are supported by Traktor, I'm now looking into rekordbox/serato to make my life a bit easier.
Same here I come from Traktor never cared for the controllers S4 is a nice controller maybe more for younger newbies those small spinning jogs are funny too me gimmick, toyish doesnt fit the original reason for wanting spinning on tables,just dont fit Traktors brand, to me its greed marketing how they come from a controller with no jogs at all to spinning 5 inch jogs.
Well, same here but in that case all you have to do in such booths is to plug your laptop&soundcard to the club’s mixer then have 1 or 2 Kontrol X1’s to control Traktor..This is actually the standard setup of many Big names in the industry. Then, for other gigs you lash out your Kontrol S4 Mk3 😎
Hey buddy what Pioneer controller is maximum close to "the club standard" setup? I am looking to buy a Pioneer controller. Using Traktor since 2000, have tons of Traktor gear but started to feel the same that you wrote. Thanks.
i have the DDJ-1000 and love it too. I thought about getting the S4 Mk3 also, but I'll wait to see what Denon has in store early next year.
I just got the S2 MK3! Will upload a video on it ASAP
My S4 arrives tomorrow. I cancelled my DDJ-1000 order from wednesday cause i learned the phono converters are bad, and for DVS you now need a subscription. I was able to buy the S4 new for 730 and even though i am missing out on Beatport Link i still feel its a much better choice and your video underlined it.
What i really wonder is the quality of the s4 mk4, because in all the reviews i have seen, they say it doesnt look like it has a long live...
Hi where are they selling the S4 mk3 for 730? I'll snap one up straight away!
Traktor Kontrol S4 Mk3 My favourite! I want to upgrade with it!
Sold! Just ordered an S4! You should get kick backs from NI for this.
david.sound just got mine love it S4 all the way
I been using traktor for years I’ve head serato and traktor is dope and u can really do so much in the software tuning it to your liking people don’t be afraid to be different and don’t. Let other djs til u serato is best wat is best for them may not be best for u explore find your self I’ve had serato djs play in my kontrol s2 mk2 and Scratch they where shocked how tight and Accurate the scratching and the fader was 💯🔊🎶👌🏾
Traktor is the Industry leader in Digital performance. Pioneer’s software is really more suited for preparing tracks before using them on Pioneer equipment such as CDJs. Traktor is the more creative option for most innovative performances. Pioneer is great too, but I feel it’s more geared for the DJ Heads (I enjoy all methods of performing so I choose both lol)
lol tracktor aint leading anything
@@surenarclayton7392 still by far the beast Beatgrid algorhythm.
You can set the "normal" fx also to post fader btw ;)
Thanks for this video! I have been a long time Traktor user and was considering getting the DDJ-1000 (for mobile addition) but found out the other day one issue for me that you cannot put different fx on different channels! Thanks for showcasing this on the S4 mk3, I sometimes like mixing with 4 channels where I might have have a channel or two on a loop with an effect and not often but it has been something I like to remix with and think that the S4 will continue allow me to do this if I get another controller. And yes yes the form factor! Thanks for a great and detail video. Smaller venues tight spaces I used the Novation Launchpad S with a Traktor mapping or I also use my Native Instruments Maschine Jam with a Traktor mapping. Great mentioning of the Wee-Go, I was at an (non club but was for performing artists) event and the dj was using the wee-go and was turned it out!!!! So yeah just like all art forms it is not about the software or tech but the Artist engaging the audience. A+++ to your video!
place the fx knob on master just like on a nexus mixer :)
The S4 Mk3 is great. I got suprised by all the customization you can do in Traktor Pro 3 so now i've made my own features for it.
And at a much lower price.
Dude, been struggling for about two weeks to decide between these two. This video really helped a lot, thanks!
Vicente Rojas Ortiz glad I could help!
Wow! Great comparison!!!! I had no idea how big the pioneer Ddj 1000 was! Very important for airplane flights!!! Thanks for a great video!!!!
The DDJ 1000 is pretty big in comparison. I have a soft case for transporting and it’s not the easiest to lug around. I plan on filming a video on the 1000 this weekend!
Great! I can't wait to see your new video! I saw both controllers in the store today and I thought the new s4 was definitely more practical! However, the pioneer seemed to have been built better. I own the s8 from traktor and really like it, so I'll just stick with that!
3:30 RIP headphone users
Good video! few things to mention Pioneer is a standalone unit you can hook up any extra device and play through the controller regardless if Rekordbox is running or not cant do that with the Traktor s4 which sucks big time, the size is not a big issue im pretty sure if you can fit the s4 in a booth spot few more inch is available to fit the DDJ 1000 I have a Sr and 1000 I have not had any issues with size most spot I played at is cut out for a full setup 2cdj and mixer, IMO it comes down too software Traktor or Rekordbox.
K9 Chance
S4 mk3 will be usable standalone in near future via firmware update.
It is even stated on the official NI product page.
I believe there’s a firmware update for the S4 to be able to use it as a stand-alone unit. I will let you know if this happens!
GREAT and thorough vid buddy. Miss working alongside with you. Keep up the good work! 🙌🏻🤙🏻✌🏻😀💯
EVON thanks man miss you too! I hope all is going well for you 😊
Traktor Kontrol S4 Mk3 is my favourite 4 channel controller.
Thank you so much for sharing, just gave me a whole new look into the mk3
Nice comparison I was wondering about the actual size of the S4..
Thaks! Good comparison between both!
Good little review-very succinct. Already have the mk3 and VERY happy with it. I come from a mix of turntablism AND studio, this version nails it!
Rich Moog Hi man, i recently i sold my s4 mk2 and i bought a ddj1000, but now i'm hating Rekordbox !!
1 - I miss Traktor. Is the s4 mk3 a good choice ??
2 - Are the Faders and sound quality of S4 mk3 better than S4 mk2 ??
@@ignalanus The mk3 nails it BIG TIME! The quality of it's build is a huge jump up from the mk2 and the additional effects are a very welcome addition.
@@mooganoid Thanks man ! I'll receive it this week. Very happy !
love my traktor F1/S4 setup but I'm going back to playing out (carry a couple usb flash drives vs laptop / controller ect) so the DDJ1000 is the only way to get into the recordbox universe as well as getting a handle on club standards. Pioneer has one of the best hustles going and set the industry $tandard with this Mercedes priced DJ gear.
good overview.
i bought the DDJ-1000 since a couple of months right now and it rocks ! it's solid, the jogwheels are the same that in the CDJ-2000 nexus and the mixer is the same that a djm-900. I learn Rekordbox but i prefer all the way Traktor. I had before the Traktor S2 and then the Pioneer DDJ-SX. I think that if NI released this new S4MK3 a couple of months before i bought it rather than the DDJ-1000 for the portabillity and also because NI has changed the jogwheels feeling with motor plattern ! Finally my conclusion is that these 2 controllers are the best of the market right now...trust me
I also prefer traktor, but like the CDJ jogwheels. So thats why I've mapped the DDJ-1000 to TP3
please have a look at this video and detailed manual:
ua-cam.com/video/EkSJ9Ug9Zuk/v-deo.html
maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/9279
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Hi man thank you for the review! I'm starting to learn how to DJ, at 54 lol, and I'd love a powerful yet portable controller with powerful software on which to standard DJing but also do some remixes, live remixes, both with electronic music but also multigenre remixes, a bit of production and so on. Do you think the S4 MK3 is so far the only one who can do these sort of things? Thank you!!!!!
the advantage of the ddj is that you don't have to bring it in clubs - just take your usb stick with you and play on the cdj's.
everything will work the same and be familiar, no need to manage two libraries
Wanted to add that Rekordbox does not support AMD chips. Just brought my DDJ-1000 home and could not get to work. Traktor works with both chip sets, now ordering the s4
man loving this video! i'm looking to upgrade to a S4 Mk3 or a DDJ-1000 from a MIxtrack pro 3 serato setup because i feel my entry level controller is limiting my sets. I still DJ small venues and pubs for top 40 and hip hop and still consider myself a beginner/mid level. My end game is to DJ on a pioneer system but should i jump to the S4 before i get into a DDJ 1000
these 2 controllers rocks... the S4MK3 is pro trust me... even if pioneer is the club standard
I guess ur problem is about size, of course DDJ 1000 is big controller with the size of the Jog’s which must of DJ want on any controller, I’m mobile DJ and I traveled around without no problem with DDJ 1000 in flight case, Some mobile DJ even travel with CDJ and S9.
In my opinion DDJ 1000 suit mobile DJ who want have the club style controller and also for me personally, it about the future reference with Rekordbox, with the effort they are putting in making Rekordbox better. Update after update is 👍
I have the S4 and I’m really happy with it. If you’re thinking about a good controller you won’t regret, I’m telling you. When I got my hands on DDJ1000 I was surprised how cheap it feels, especially jogwheels and pitchfader.
Hi Adrian, is there any way you could help with these questions: How big are the jog wheels on the S4 and can you use it on Cross DJ the Android app? Some people say you can but some say the mapping doesn't work. Thank you so much
@@londonsounds6212 They are 14cm in diameter and really well built and got quality feel, at least in comparison to the Pioneer's ones. It looks to me that Pioneer is a bit overrated and definately overpriced, but it's only my opinion and only if speaking about this price range of controllers, because I have Pioneer's HDJ S7 headphones and they are great. I compared them with Sennheiser's HD25 and the only advantage of HD25 is that they are lighter. I don't know nothing about Cross DJ app, sorry.
@@adriansidor4725 thanks so much and are you running a pc or apple laptop with traktor? What specs is it? Thanks
@@londonsounds6212 MacBook Pro i7
hello..thanks for the great video..I'm the DJ for 18 consecutive years, starting from vinyls with allen & heath xone 62 just released and then switched to cdj 800mk2 and djm800, cdj 350 and djm 800 and finally pioneer xdj-rx .. I bought a MacBook Pro for convenience and power by abandoning Windows and I am considering buying a controller that can make me do a lot more things .. being a pioneer user and rekordbox with the hd analyzed by rekordbox, what do you recommend? Is it worth trying s4 mk3 or staying on pioneer?
thanks
great review. Love my s4. top bit of kit
I've always said: Rekordbox is best for club music, Serato is best for hip hop and open format, and Traktor is best for house and techno.
(Can anybody help?) Thanks for the comparison. I bought the S4 Mk3 over lockdown and am really satisfied with my purchase. I've been mixing on Technics for 20 years, and love how it works as a stand alone mixer without needing to plug my laptop in!
However, I want to use the controller with both the traktor software and my 2 turntables. The layout of the channels (from left to right) is channels C,A,B and D. Channels A & B are the only ones set up to take a phono signal which makes no sense to me, because my turntables are either side of the controller, so i want the channels to reflect the layout - if you follow??
I've heard you can rearrange the layout in the settings on traktor but haven't been able to find a guide on how to do this - can anyone help and point me in the right direction?
Thanks
Great video Chase, I'm sold on the s4
Aaron Penny thanks! I’m glad you liked it 😊 if you end up getting one let me know!
+Chase Me would you say that the S4 is the closest thing to industry standard that isn't pioneer?
Yes it is! If Zedd can use it main stage at a festival in front of thousands of people I would say it’s industry standard 🥳
I just bought the S4MK3! 😆such an amazing controller this is
Hi Pavan, is there any way you could help with these questions: How big are the jog wheels on the S4 and can you use it on Cross DJ the Android app? Some people say you can but some say the mapping doesn't work. Thank you so much
@@londonsounds6212 hi mate, if you are just starting out, I strongly recommend that you go with the pioneer controllers. Most dj booths have cds and it is NOT a smooth transition between them atleast software wise and you’ll feel frustrated. I have also bought a ddj400 out of necessity.
@@PavanMS87 bro i used to mix on 1210s and scratch, I'm really envious of the motorised wheel on the S4 thats why I want it. I had a DDJ200 and couldn't scratch on it. The 400 doesn't have motorised wheel. Is there any way I can use the S4 but without a laptop? Some people say you can mix on an app called Cross DJ on Android and the S4 can use it?
Thanks mate
awesome video, im buying the S4 real soon :)
I have Ddj T1 and I love to use Traktor. The size is less 3cm than Ddj 1000. I love Ddj 1000 and don't care about size is not that big for a club. Im gonna try un-oficial map for Ddj 1000, if I like it a still use Traktor, if not I'm gonna change for Rekordbox. I wish Native-instruments release an official map for that controller. Even Virtualdj has a map with jog screens working why don't NI make it also? The only thing I don't like in NI controllers are size of jog wheels. They may be very responsive but it's not the same thing and I already try S4 Mk3
What about the sound quality comparison when you are hooking up to a club mixer? Surely pioneer being the most common equipment pioneer cdc + pioneer mixer (at the club) will work better? Yea I know there is a mixer built in but the clubs gonna say go through their mixer right?
Hi, nice video man..im a little late :D . The filter fx are post crossfader too? ..thanks :D
I tried small jog wheels before on a pioneer sr controller.. didnt like the small jog wheels i like big jog wheels.. i may try again on this
DDJ 1000 all the way for the win!!!!
If you had to choose between the two, which one would you choose? They both measure up in volume for a club? Who sounds better and more response at the start? I'm about to buy one of the 2, the effects of traktor feel much more defined , I need you to help me say, thank you.
Is this really a valid comparison? The DDJ-1000 is 50% more money. Ideally, I'd love to see Pioneer DJ release a DDJ-600/800 to compete more directly with the new S4 mk3.
If pioneer makes a more compact controller with similar features of the DDJ-1000 and lower price sure but that controller may never come to life. The only controller they have which doesn’t have nearly as many features is the DDJ-RR which I used to own. I used the RR for a few years before I purchased the 1000.
Great review. Do you recommend Traktor MK3 over Pioneer? I'm moving from vinyl mixing and I like Haptic job wheels.
I would recommend Traktor for better haptic and scratching with the motorized jog wheels. It’s getting a big update soon that will make it even more like other DJ software! Link: www.google.com/amp/s/djtechtools.com/amp/2019/01/24/traktor-pro-3-1-coming-with-parallel-waveforms-s4-mk3-standalone-mixer-mode//
And I would definitely recommend DDJ 1000 over S4
- industry standard size mechanical jog wheels from CDJ 2000 Nexus MK2, wtf on so cheap controller club standard platters from 2000 USD players? Forget that nudging and mixing on that S4 things are same as on clubs CDJs, CDJ jogs are totally different thing, and i dont really see benefits to have motorised small jogs with differnet nudge movement than you have in club on CDJs. DDJ also has same cue / play buttons and same pitch. Player layout - looping buttons, browsing knob, etc (muscle memory works) is bonus.
- yes you can do different things on Traktor effects, but DDJ 1000 has standalone hardware DJM 900 style color and beat effects, and its really usefull to know how to use them, in most clubs are DJM mixers and you can also combine them with Rekordbox pad effects as bonus
- headphone output is more louder than it was on S4 MK2, where it was really low in noisy enviroment
- you dont look like total amateur with small semi-pro controller when in club are CDJs, only because you doent use them. When there are only turntables and you bring this, every CDJ DJ is ok with it, DDJ 1000 looks like, and is, Pro gear.
- when you move to Rekordbox, you havent to import whole your collection to new update installation, all updates use same collection, not in Traktor, where with every update you have to import whole data. Second thing updates on Traktor had very often bugs so better was to stay away for whil, google number of version with keyword bug and than choose if to update or not or downgrade
- on RB you have waveform previews a 200% better collection management, trust me you will fall in love with tagging possibilities
- Traktor will have in 3.1 same horizontal waveforms as RB or Serato, after 8 years of waiting for update from v2 to v3
- on RB you can export whole collection on single click to USB flashstick drive and use all analysis, cuepoints, playlist on any CDJ player
- on RB when any DJ comes with his flash stick for CDJs its working, he can use his CDJ drive and play!
- RB and DDJ 1000 layout and feeling are same as Nexus CDJ/ DJM, so every pro DJ is happy to play from it, i dont know any CDJ DJ who wanted to play from my old Traktor controller
- last thing that Native instruments has very bad after waranty service, when cue point button on my old S2 stoped working czech distributor told me that only solution is exchange for refurbished unit for 300 EUR, and seller where i bought it told me that its mostly unpossible to open it, take away motherboard and repair it. Half price of whole unit for one button repaitr? Same price distributor told me for service broken USB B port on NI Audio 10 soundcard 300 EUR for usb port. NI custommer support than offered me price 50 EUR for that 1 EUR port.
So my advice is go in DDJ
New video review of the DDJ-1000 out now! Pioneer DDJ-1000 Review! Is it worth it? ua-cam.com/video/vsaZtdB85Pc/v-deo.html
Hey Chase! Love the vid.
I got a question: when using the mic, must it be connected to deck C/D? Is there a way to use the mic without occupying a deck?
I know in Pioneer CDJ 1000, the microphones pretty much has a channel for itself. Can you do that with Traktor s4?
It does not appear so. I was playing around with my S4 earlier and it seems a deck is the only way. My current setup goes out of the S4 and into a small Mackie mixer, which has XLR inputs for a microphone that I can EQ and adjust separately and keep 4 decks for music.
Which do you think has the better sound quality? I think the s4 does but I’m trying to get second opinions
How does the volume on headphones sound? Is it pretty loud and clear and as good as pioneer headphones volume?
did you got this and was shipped from Fremont?
The DDJ-800 came out not long ago and this is way better than that one.
Question chase... the S4 mk3 came out over 2 yrs ago. I'm a traktor guy and I'm ready to upgrade from my mk2. The mk3 is nice but native instruments/traktor has kind if disappeared. What do you think the future is for traktor dj? And should I go to serato or record box
Native instruments is very much alive, check their socials like YT or FB, I just asked them whether they plan on creating a standalone or perhaps even an actual nexus
@@MindFlob and what was their answer?
why would you bring a rekordbox controller to a venue that already has cdjs in the first place?
I'm interested in how the moving platters feel. Are they like turntables
They feel really nice. The top of the platters feel smooth and responsive. I plan on doing another video talking about the best features this controller has to offer.
The S4 is almost the perfect profesional controller but it doesn’t have In-Out Loop buttons, I literally went to the store to buy it when it came out and right when I noticed that I got really sad and went back home with empty hands. They REALLY screwed that up
Did they fix the issue with gain. there was a lot of comments about tracks with different sound volumes when mixing on the s4 mk3
Can you talk about the one shot mode. Want to know if the one shots you load all have to be the same bpm. Not just a snare or bass note, I'm talking about horns and stuff?
Excellent video!
Hola !Muchas gracias por la demo esta genial. No consigo hacer funcionar el micrófono con la traktor s4mk3 ¿sabrias decirme porque puede ser? muchas gracias!
Cool video however you are missing most crucial point of DJ controller. Size do not matter in this case because you do not take your pioneer controller to gigs. Which is even better compared to traktor gear that you have to take with you. Why? Because everywhere in the world there is professional pioneer mixer and CDJs already waiting for yuu in the DJ booth. That is the point of using Pioneer controllers. you practice at home and leave them at home. You us dj gear in the club which IS compatible with all your music thanks to Rekordbox. You just take your pen-drive or your laptop if you like. You can take controller to house party which should not be a problem. but for real DJ work you use real DJ gear that will read all your music files no problem. So... in my books DDJ1000 wins. Plus you have standalone mixer with hardware FX.
I was about to say the same thing. Nice video but the end comparison misses the point. If you use Traktor buy the S4 MK3 like me. If you use RB buy the DDJ-1000 if you can't afford a full Nexus 2 setup, use it at home for practice and when you go to the club leave it at home and use the Nexus 2 gear in the club via your USB.
I Use the DDJ-1000 for a Perfect Practice and easy to get mixtapes out. If i go to Gigs its 100% that the CDJ2000Nxs and a DJM 800 as a minimum. If a club got no CDJ's and are not willing to Rent i can take the DDJ-1000 for a extra price. And never i had a person look to me wow that i big. People more look and think its a same setup as CDJs with DJM.. So what i think it just looks more Professional then a small controller even if it got the same stuff on it. ... Keep the video's going. i really like them.
@@cheefr0berts i think most smaller clubs in US got no CDJ's and DJMs like in EU/ NL. Here the gear is in every small club but in US there is more with drive-in djs clubbing and the dj needs to take everything with them. Even lights sometimes. Look at Rick Webb with his Club nights.
@@KlineGames Sure we have the same thing here in the UK if the club is really small and only there for renting for example. You can use both the DDJ-1000 and Kontrol S4 MK3 without the need for a mixer and/or CDJ setup. If you are making a choice between the 2 you need to take the following into consideration: what you are used to or what you are trying to achieve. If you are used to mixing on Pioneer or want to get used to a CDJ setup go for the Pioneer. If you are a Traktor user then go for the NI controller. That is the simple choice to make. I am a Traktor user so I bought the S4. I used RB recently with XDJ-1000s and thought the beat sync was not very good (RB analysis is not as good as Traktor) and limited creativity (pre-set saved loops and beatjump of 32 beats etc) of RB is just not as good as NI so it didn't make me want to swap. RB as a DJ software is quite new compared to Traktor that has been around for over a decade and has improved a lot in that time. Of course Pioneer is the pro way to go but I DJ mostly at home so it was a no-brainer for me. I am interested what the new CDJ or XDJ will look like as I feel the Nexus 2 is now outdated, especially when you compare it to the Denon SC5000 and SC5000M.
@@cheefr0berts Completely agree the syncing on pioneer controllers is definitely not as good as traktor. Also the OP misses the point. If you are a playing a 6 hr set all night at a bar and taking requests you are not bringing a USB stick for CDJ's to a club, neither would you want to lug a DJ1000 around. I take my s2 to the bar when im playing a long set, works perfectly and takes up minimal space in teh booth.
Gear4music does have a good price. Did you have to pay any other fees or that VAT tax?
J H it’s crazy I only paid around $2 lol blew my mind! It includes VAT tax. I just had to pay for shipping.
Sounds to good to be true. I’m a little hesitant. I never ordered from the UK before. How much was the shipping?
J H for me it was a $1.50 and I live in California. I paid with PayPal and if I had any issues they can issues me a refund! I bought the S4 and S2 from their website.
Pioneer ddj-1000 all the way for me , your video is not a fair test , size doesn’t matter because i wouldn’t take the ddj- 1000 to a club, I would only need to take my laptop or usb stick ,I have been a traktor dj for many years but I’m so glad I have move to rekordbox, if you are deciding between the 2 , go for the pioneer ddj-1000 and be a pro and feel comfortable with any club standard set up 👍.
Have you ever used the new MK3 or Traktor Pro 3 Software before? It’s changed a lot from previous NI controllers. I think it comes down to personal preference tbh. Pioneer effects still are meh when compared to Traktors. For me I prefer using Traktor Pro for EDM and Recordbox DJ for Multi Genre mixing. Both are great in different ways 🤙🏼
@@chaseme what specific problems does traktor have when it comes to mixing multi genre's..Cuz I am open format dj looking to buy either the mk3 or ddj-1000...Good video btw
@@Zigla the biggest problems are no elastic beatgrids, and no smart playlists.
I solve the first for myself with manual beatmix, the second with a really clean organization of dozens of genres and subgenres organized by decade/year
I believe this controller sounds way better cleaner and deeper than pioneer 1000 which sounds bright or too bright for me.. even if traktor has less effects they sound better not talking about sick jog wheels. :) thanks.
Friends, good afternoon, I'm from Brazil. I use a Kontrol S4 01 for 7 years, and I like Traktor and I'm doing a course with DJ, with Rekordbox but I realize that Traktor is better for me, I'm going to do aatroka for S4 MK3, my friend is in Deytona Beach. bring me if all goes well .. Good Luck to all ..
Does it vibrate? Is it fix?
What about sound quality and comparison? No one speaks about that and after all it's all that matters, don't you guys think?
Dina they did upgrade the sound quality to use a “Pro-grade 24-bit / 96-kHz audio interface [with] 2x stereo phono/line inputs, 2x stereo line inputs, 2x mic inputs (XLR and 1/4″ / 6.3 mm TRS), 2x stereo main output (phono/line and XLR), 1x stereo booth output (1/4″ / 6.3 mm TRS), 2x mirrored headphone outs”. Basically this is on bar with the sound quality Pioneer flagship equipment use like the CDJ 2000 NX2 and DJM 900 NXS2. It also has a new limiter feature in Traktor Pro 3. Compared to my friends traktor S4 MK3 it doesn’t sound as harsh or distorted when turned up at higher volumes.
@@@chaseme, Thank you for your quick response with real life sound test experience which I was looking for ( not the marketing numbers advertised ). In your opinion which one sounds better or fits your taste , S4 MK3 or the Pioneer DDJ-1000 ?
Dina Digital music is digital music, its about the mp3 quality of your tracks & external equipment.. not the controller itself. Want to hear amazing quality, get vinyl and turbtables.
Dina for a real life test they both sound great. Maybe I can film a video showcasing both controllers playing the same track and record it with a mic! Also it depends on the files you play through your controller. Mainly I try and use WAV. Files if possible or 320KB MP3!
@@TomKaosOfficial you are basically saying there is no sound card inside the controller, which is not the case. Chase Me
@ stated here that in his opinion MK3 sounds better than MK2 . DJ controllers have an internal sound card for the audio output. Expensive controllers have better sound cards with a better quality audio outputs. Bring a entry level controller into a small club and you will find out right away how "good" it sounds compared with a medium level controller or up.
Just curious how long you been Djing???
last year I using s2 mk3 and going to xdj rx but already sell. should I save my money for ddj1000 maybe I"ll save 300usd or just buy the traktor s4? first im thinking about pride even my skill great but how people see ur stuff, is it good concept of my mind or just fuck it what people see?
Which camera were u using for video recording ?
Hows the build quality of the ddj 1000? I'm looking into getting one
It’s solid! It takes after build quality similar to the CDJ-2000. Fit to finish is great.
@@chaseme Awesome! Do you think pioneer will release a newer ddj-1000 version sometime in the beginning of next year like how they did with the xdj-rx?
Sounds From The Underground. Personally I don’t think pioneer with update this model for at least another year or so. Since it already uses the features from the NXS2’s I feel like Pioneer will come out with new CDJ/DJM before the DDJ-1000 gets updated.
pretty good!
I've heard about many people having issues with their S4 mk3. Apparently, some bugs in the software. What do you know about that?
I will have to check online to see what issues people are having. I’m not experiencing any issues with my S4 atm. Thanks for letting me know!
I'm a former vinyl DJ wanting to buy a controller. Something a bit above entry price point.
I'm swaying towards a pioneer controller. I'm not into remixing tracks.
I would like to be able link up my turntables to the controller as well.
What would you suggest?
If you’re a vinyl DJ you’ll appreciate the jog wheels of the S4 better. I don’t even personally use the remix decks on the S4. I love the beat jump and effects with this controller. Also have to consider if you’ll like Recordbox DJ or Traktor Pro. You can link up turntables to either controller!
@@chaseme jogs of the S4 are nice, but still too small in comparison to vinyl. CDJ-jogs is a reasonable mid-term I think
hey buddy! got an unopened S4s but i can upgrade to some DDJ-1000s for a few hundreds...after playing with both for a while would you recommend me upgrading?
It depends on what genres you plan on mixing tbh. Traktor has better FX and is more portable. The DDJ-1000 works great with Recordbox DJ and will help you get used to using CDJs if that’s what you’re going for. I like both and after the new update coming to Traktor Pro 3 in a few months I’ll use it more!
@@chaseme i DJ mostly hip hop, TOP 40 and dance hall..typical club stuff. I heard that traktor is much better at analyzing music..does that mean im going to get wrong BPMs on rekord box..i dont mind fixing grids tho because i do it constantly on my serato..which controller do you use the most
Traktor is great for track analysis and I feel like it’s more reliable software IMO. You’ll be able to Scratch better on the S4 all well and the jog wheels are very nice. The only negative thing is that the BPM doesn’t flex if you have a mashup that changes tempo. In record the BPM adjusts to if a song slows down or speeds up. This may change in the future with a update.
@@chaseme "You’ll be able to Scratch better on the S4 all well and the jog wheels are very nice. The only negative thing is that the BPM doesn’t flex if you have a mashup that changes tempo" are you talking about the DDJ-1000..everyone i spoke to thinks the 1000s is the go to for scratching because of the large job wheels
@@chaseme okay so last question would you recommend the S4 or the 1000s..i've been djing for a year and i still consider myself beginner/intermediate..I currently DJ , bars and small venues,i would like to learn the whole CDJ setup eventually
Personally I find Pioneer brings out way too many controllers. I mean variety is good but I feel like its just more incentive for them to keep moving forward and not caring about past iterations.
Don't see the point.... All the clubs are on pioneer why don't they make it compatible I as about to change my traktor Z2 for this one if it would be compatible but no....
Very good video bro
Thanks Man!
Hello! Can the Traktor s4 mk3 work without the AC adapter as well as the Traktor s4 mk2?
Thank you!
no
How much was the s4 after fees/taxes from the website?
I came from a s4 mk2, I’ve had the s4 mk3 for just over a month & thinking of swapping it for a ddj 1000 but never used reckordbox??
westRtype Hi man, i recently i sold my s4 mk2 and i bought a ddj1000, but now i'm hating Rekordbox !!
1 - I miss Traktor. Is the s4 mk3 a good choice ??
2 - Are the Faders and sound quality of S4 mk3 better than S4 mk2 ??
Ignacio Lanús Disc Jockeys ddj1000 is a far more solid controller makes S4 feel like a toy. I also hated rekordbox at first but I’m used to it now. You could try this mapping
maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/9279
Anyone that managed to make it work with serato dj pro ??
Nice vid.. Has anyone tried the s4 mk3 with IOS Traktor dj?? Thanks!
Mike H it doesn’t work :/ I tried it on my iPhone and iPad with the Traktor DJ App. It doesn’t charge when plugged in. I believe they may be redesigning a new Traktor mobile App! The S2 MK3 I believe works with iPad. I may purchase one and try it out 🙌🏼
@@chaseme Thanks for that info. I actually received the mk3 mid week and will set up this weekend. I sure do hope IOS compatibility is on the way.. Thanks again..
Mike H awesome I hope you enjoy it! If I hear any new information I will let you know. I really hope they make a new iOS application for this controller.
I stand between this and denon dj go.
Agreed.
@@comradecat1859 Its really hard decision. I mean. The traktor has 4 channels. But Denon has future upgrade support and the company is still in business.
But denon is also 400$ more expensive for 2 channels.
@@tekoppentekoppen761 go for the native instruments, you won't regret it.
Hey Bro
I have the traktor s4
And is not working with
MacOS ( Mojave )
What should I do pls help me
What exactly isn’t working? Is the application not launching or are you receiving some error?
I’m using it on Mojave with no issues.
Chase Me
It says The traktor s4 need some updates
Cus is not conpetible with Mac OS mojave
Before it was working good
Soon I upgraded mi Mac
This thing happens
JRTULOVE 43V3R try updating it with the NI application. Make sure the software and controller firmware are completely up to date.
Chase Me thks Bro
I will try right now
Chase Me
Pls Bro send me your cell number
To my mail hondalatina@msn.com
And i call you
To see if you can help me
To install the new traktor s4 Mk3
Thank you
$750 is still too much for the S4mk3 for what it really is.
NI added some gimmicks to the existing S4mk2 but still fell short of making it truly competitive in 2019 which is sad.
Could have saved you the trouble. The Pioneer. Easy
DDJ 1000 by far, its not that big, if you need a club setup the DDJ 1000 is by far the best choice
There's a whole world out there that doesn't want the compact world.
The S4 is still too small in many ways which is funny because this time around the S2 and S4 have very little in common.
The S2 didn't get the displays or jogs which is bad because now the S2 lacks and the S4 is sitting close to a lot of controllers with better aspect.
The S4 is actually the small and big controller at the same time.
The S4 should have come in a $799 with a bigger variant of the S4 at the $1000 mark.
I was really hoping NI would offer something more than what the S4 mk3 turned out to be.
Maybe Rekordbox is the way to go since Serato can't get past the fact that there's more to life than Fresh and Aaagh! and Traktor is still controller challenged unless you want to create a TSI.
fully agreed, thats why I bought the ddj-1000 instead of S4. And I even love more my DDJ-SZ that I have elsewhere.
I've mapped the 1000 to TP3, please have a look at this video and detailed manual:
ua-cam.com/video/EkSJ9Ug9Zuk/v-deo.html
maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/9279
facebook.com/pedro.vale.estrela/media_set?set=a.2244380098947850
I love the smaller form factor. It mean I can pop this and my Maschine in a side bag and be on my way. the S2 though I admit is lacking but for the price its an excellent entry level controller. Also I don't see why the S4 needs to be bigger ? You didn't even mention why.
@@djestrela2 The ddj-1000 is 300$ more expensive.
@@devote regarding the S4 jogs: because I have big hands
@@djestrela2 I get ya. That's why I have turntables but it's like spinning 45s to me on this S4. Whatever works for you though.
Have mine. Still can't get any sound from headphone outputs..
I've reinstalled the newest version of traktor pro 3.. at least 5 times .. still no lights on master gain ...
Bad ass controller. Don't think you'll ever get any ever get support for Native Instruments I've had this thing for almost a month. No reply. and I'm ready to f****** burn it..!!!
brandon cutchins sorry to hear that. Where did you purchase it? I would exchange it for a new one at that point.
Anybody running the DDJ 1000 with Traktor instead of Rekordbox?
Nop, it crashes from time to time
since when do you need your own equipment to play in a club lol
Recordbox is nothing like Traktor bro lol
Pioneer is so bad..
Traktor shits on recordbox all day and half the night
Pioneer ddj 1000 is way better
I am the 666th like LOL