I know, it's like someone saying that someone can't like Black Hole Sun or Man in the Box from Soundgarden and Alice in Chains, because they're their biggest songs. I mean, I appreciate all songs from every single one of the bands--except for On A Plain, because that song is just so country-ish (blah).
LOL exactly! They think they understand Kurt and that because he grew tired of it, them not liking it makes them cool. I like all their songs but Lithium is my favorite.
@@SharkMinnowthere's always a clamouring on posts like this to claim origin. It doesn't matter where punk originated, what Plant meant was that unlike in the UK, punk didn't sweep everything else out of the way for a time. But with grunge in the 90s, it was as if that were happening again: a scene developed that was radically different to what was around at the time in terms of mainstream, it had its own look and sound, and had labels scrambling to be a part of it. That was his point. Iggy Pop or Joey Ramone can be first if he wants...the first of anything is just the first marker to be passed, it can be a poisoned chalice.
@@SharkMinnow It did, and there was always a huge underground punk/hardcore scene in the US during the 80's. I think what Robert Plant meant was that America had finally got it's *commercially* viable punk. Punk had already been mainstream in the UK, with bands like the Sex Pistols, the Buzzcocks, Sham 69, and Angelic Upstarts, but it wasn't until Nirvana that the US started seeing punk on the charts. Hell, I don't think even the Ramones had a top 40 record. :T
@Bryce Thibodeaux - The ramones deserve lots of credit, but they initally weren't too popular. It took over a decade for them to become a part of pop culture and influence EVERYONE. Whereas The Sex Pistols immediately became a western hemispherical phenomenon from the get go like Nirvana. It was an immediate effect, unlike the Ramones. Plant also forgets to mention The Pixies, who were the biggest band to influence Kurt and many other 90's acts.
@@IgnorancEnArrogance The Ramones actually came to England and inspired the Clash and Sex Pistols. The main difference is that in England, it was fashion and music. In fact, the Ramones suffered because of British punk; promoters thought all punk bands were like the Pistols, and the Ramones got rejected for it. But punk is an American invention.
@@ericnierstedt6242 All popular music is an American invention. Blues,Country, Jazz, Rock, Soul,Punk, New Wave, Rap.Even Big Band and Swing. England has produced some of the greatest musicians of all time. But they all got their inspiration from American music.
@@ericnierstedt6242 They might have inspired/influenced punk, but they can't take the credit for it. They were around for years and years without widespread popularity. As was said, the Pistols were an instant western hemisphere sensation overnight. It's like saying because certain bands influenced them, that those bands 'invented' Led Zeppelin's sound. All music is influenced somehow and somewhere by what came before. Robert Plant meant that Nirvana were the same seismic shift away from a previous form of music just like the archetypal punk bands over here were much earlier. Nirvana were an overnight success and spoke to an entire generation, that's why he compares it to punk. And of course, he means 'British' punk, as if it needs disambiguation. He's British and saw it happen.
Strange to hear Plant describe punk as the rejection of "the skeleton of the Beatles" and Nirvana as "America finally getting its own punk" when Kurt Cobain was staying up till 3am listening to Beatles records.
Nick Rizzo not really. I love Robert Plant but he sounds kind of ignorant of the New York punk scene in the 70s with The Ramones, New York Dolls, Blondie, Talking Heads etc.
I think you missed the point. Although he protested some of their lyrics, Kurt was also a big fan of Zeppelin. He had communication breakdown graffitied on his wall, covered their songs, and he even wrote a song about poser bands that copied LZ. Plant has said in multiple interviews that Punk, in a way was a rebellion against the grandiosity of what big rock bands had become. That comparison carries over into American grunge after hair metal bands.
Michael Harrington People blow their brains out all the time. yes it takes a lot to do that, but how many people have you heard of snort their own fathers ashes? like wtf possess a person to do that??
Milk Prince dude fuck, past couple of years I've done nothing but despise escalator standers, asking them to use it properly. You just maybe me remember what made me capture that logic aha
Nirvana is much more than just teen spirit, In Utero is one of the greatest 20 albums of all time, and probably one of the rawest ever easily. It's as pure as it gets.
SLTS got so popular that now it is criminally underrated because hating it is the hipster thing to do. The truth is, the song is wonderfully simple, yet incredibly musically subtle for a four chord song, the vocals are outstanding, and the vibe is relentless.
@@richatlarge462 it’s a stolen and tweaked song… more than a feeling by Boston. Kurt admitted this and that’s one of the reasons he hated that it was the one that everyone paid attention to and he used to play them both together jokingly live
@@alexv1190 Ooh that's right, I forgot about that. But he must have been referring to the strum pattern, not the actual chords. Because More than A Feeling would be E-A-C#m-B, which is totally different than E-A-G-C. But the strumming pattern is the same, and yes I remember that clip of when they mashed up the two songs (and did an awful job, in the true punk spirit).
***** Yes, I'm agreeing with you Kurt had great taste in music and his influence! He was first and foremost a fan of music. Nirvana had deep seeded roots in the punk sound. Kurt was a big fan of early 1st wave alternative and punk for sure
You all realize that Grunge is a scene not a sound right? I see a lot of “experts” say no way Alice In Chains was more grunge or Nirvana was the most grunge and Sound Garden just copied them. These bands are not comparable in sound, the only similarities is in that they just so happened to be in Seattle and part of a scene called grunge. Now who is a better band in general can be argued though pointless cause it’s all subjective and can’t be proven but I digress.
Yes exactly Grunge defines a scene/movement of Seattle it's not a genre of rock Every band from that era had their own style/influences when it comes to sound/lyrics
Yay know .....I'm bored with the which of the four big grunge bands was the best - they were all incredible, we were lucky to have them - we all miss Kurt, and Layne and Chris and Andy Wood and are sad their demons got them.
plant is only a freakin' fairy!!!!!!!!uk are know for stealing creativities without letting others know ….plant should know this from his famous band....asshole uk thinks they are the only creators!!!!!!!!!!!!!"bollocks"!!!!!!!!! USA started blues ,punk , psychedelia, and others100% uk only stoled them and copied them without giving royalties to original creators......beatles led zeppelin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's coming again. The music industry and Hollywood need a shot in the arm of real artist and people. The music scene need it more now than ever. Rock n roll is dead in 2019 and in the 20's it'll come back. These pop stars and Instagram celebs will be put of business and wanting to copy the punk and outcast kids who are kicking the industry in the nuts and sticking a finger the big wigs ass
"If you don't want to be famous, why are they making records?" well, Ronnie, you of all people should know that music is about what you want to say, not about what you want to get. I love the stones, but I've never much agreed with their philosophy on things. They made great records, but they shamelessly marketed themselves as "The greatest band in the world" and despite the legends they are, I've heard plenty of people call them sellouts too.
+Joshua Jones I like the Stones but if we're honest, there's not much songs of theirs that is actually deep in its meaning. They have a snobbish attitude that I never liked. People don't cry for every suicide because we don't know them like we 'knew' Kurt. We get strongly attached to our favorite artists and it's normal, at least to me, that we get sad and mourn them more than we do a stranger we never heard of before.
+Joshua Jones The Stones have 'tried it all' and pretty much 'done it all'... they've made some great albums and admittedly some pretty lousy albums too. But they've always been more concerned with the bigger picture, the long haul... sticking around and not necessarily wanting to change the world in the process. They've never been too concerned with making idealistically based rules for themselves. It's just rock and roll to them, a life style... and as a result, they were never thrown by the stardom... they just rolled with it.
Yelling Elk so... What does that make them cool to you? That they were never effected by fame? That's every bit as superficial reason to like them as the whole point of this conversation i brought up. I think you've lost sight, friend. And anyone that +1'd your comment.
+Joshua Jones Nah... I'm not impressed by the mere fact that they're stars...(that'd be a little shallow don't ya think?). I just think the Stones are a great rock band that's all. And I never said they weren't affected... or as you put it, (effected) by stardom... I said they were never thrown by stardom. Big difference friend!
Keith Richards does seem like a very jealous person because he always insults other bands. Even with all his success, there's a complex going on with him. And his insults are not even funny , he's catty and unkind
I think he thought suicide was a coward's way out and Kurt was a hypocrite complaining about fame. Plus Richard's came from a generation that grew up in post-WW II and had a different take on life's hardship and what constitued doing it tough.
@@simonperry8569I quote Mick Jagger "Fame doesn't sit well on many peoples shoulders. Some people it does not fit at all." You want to label Cobain with hypocrisy, just because he found extreme fame to be unpleasant. Basically, that's saying Cobain(or any famous person) should 'live a lie' to fit another's perception of fame. Why is that? We all have a right to change our mind about anything, including fame. And see, Brian Jones essentially killed himself too. Just in a different way. Keith Richard's didn't jump to knock Brian Jones down, even though he wasn't the nicest guy and certainly not as widely known musically as Cobain. They released butterflies at a concert to honor him. That's closer to hypocrisy. Keith Richard's could have offered perspective when the interviewer asked about Cobain, but he immediately offered a backhanded comment(like the first time I heard about Cobain was when he attempted suicide in Rome) and shut the topic down. Yeah, right Keith, Nirvana had already changed the musical landscape but you never heard about them. Not even from a musical standpoint, Keith can't offer insight even though usually he's eager to talk music because, you know, that's his profession. His whole answer is a attempt to disregard a peer.
@@jumpboy29 "You want to label Cobain with hypocrisy" I'm not labelling anyone, just trying to put some context around what Richards said, not what I believe or am saying.
And then there is freaking Robert Plant, one of the best artists I know. He didn't overdose. He didn't kill himself. He didn't die of a disease. Hell, Whole lotta love was released in 1969 or so, that means he could even know Janis Joplin. And you know what? He still sings and still is amazing. Robert Plant is good. Artists, be like Robert Plant.
I think many of these so called “rock stars/legends” who are commenting in the video, are reading into what we’ve all come to know as Nirvana, as though they were on some sort of crusade or mission to destroy rock and roll and undermine its credibility or some shit. The reality is that Nirvana was nothing more than a few young, extremely talented individuals who had a LOT to say about what they were feeling and how they perceived the world around them. There was no pre-conceived notion to knowingly create a scene (grunge) or to somehow diminish all rock music that came before them. It was what it was. They just played what was formulated thru Cobain’s intense vision. Period. No more, no less.
Although Kurt went back and forth on that. In one interview he says the 80's was shit. In another interview he says he loved New Wave and if Nirvana had simply been considered another New Wave band he would have been happy. Clearly his mood on the whole thing swayed significantly.
@@EchoBravo370 wasn’t Kurt bipolar? Poor guy with all of his mental problems, surrounded himself with horrible people and drug abused it is no wonder he ended his life the way he did.
I think Henry Rollins nails it, Nirvana became what it became because it appealed to the Gen X and early millennial white youth. Heck their most successful song it’s about the teenage angst of that generation.
Beatles began the British invasion, reinvented how studio time was spent, album art, and had great instrumentation. Nirvana is a duplicate of the pixies. Cobain even admitted to copying them. Nirvana isn't anywhere in the league with the beatles. I don't understand why so many fanboys think nirvana is some incredible band
Born in 81 in Poland. Wish to be 18 year old, loving on Seattle in early 90 when grunge and The Prodigy in UK revealed. Golden times, patties all night long. So envy. But now, at age 38, still have that rage, opposite, still listening6 to grunge, The Prpdigy5, Chemical Brother's, still in love with music, that o don't want to die, just let music pass through me. I wish all my legends to reborn to give one last live concert. Brilliant. Peace peaole. Yeah, I was drunk while writing this post, and have no regrets. Love you people.
First time I heard that song was on SNL, when they finished, a Teen Spirit deodorant ad came on. I remember thinking, "shit somebody was on the ball with the ad placement." I almost thought it was a joke ad, but it wasn't, or at least it wasn't completely a joke. Or it was like a joke at the literal expense of the deodorant company. So weird.
Kurt Cobain was born in 1967 and so was I . Watching in 2020 , he would have been 53 years old 😢 Teen Spirit is timeless , it doesn’t get old and neither did Kurt 😞 Great band , great song and a great loss . RIP Kurt Cobain ❤️
"I think rock and roll exists to deliver this truth that needs to be constantly delivered, rock, hiphop, whatever you call it. It reminds us this unspoken message, its that it is fun to be alive, its a hell of a lot better than being dead..." rip joe strummer
@sha broussard also an amazing musician and singer, if you're gonna talk like that then you would hate 80% of bands/singers from the 50's to even today
@sha broussard basically everyone who killed themselves were trash musicians, that's a long list of worldwide famous people. what can I even say about his guitar that hasn't been said, yes of course he wasn't hendrix but he knew how to make great music even with simple sound. and you imply only grunge made sad music, sure no one else in no other genre made sad or depressing music, and none of them commited suicide I'm not praising his suicide, I'm praising him as a musician and for the great music he made
@sha broussard it doesn't matter who he is, what matters is what that person gave to the world robin williams killed himself, and was addicted to cocain, was he a trash bag retard who no one should have liked and it's good he commited suicide?
reficul1984 I meant that as well. I am almost 100% certain that AIC was signed to Atlantic before Nirvana was signed to a major label. I think Soundgarden was signed shortly after...it was like a domino effect once grudge hit the nation tho, so it's almost hard to say...it's almost like they were all signed at once. I remember it happening...it was crazy! i was 13 and going into the 8th grade. i went from thinking that when I got to high school I'd be sporting huge teased hair, long red fingernails, leather mini skirts, etc...to one day waking up and begging my mom for my first pair of doc martens. lol. i grabbed a hold of grunge and never let it go. it was everything to me. it just seemed so poetic and made sense to me, I absolutely loved it. and to this day I still do. with the music that's out today I am SO grateful that I grew up when I did. I hate to sound cliche but most of today's music is f'n garbage. people like Layne, Kurt and Eddie put their soul into their songs.. we are starving for that type of genuine and raw emotion today. it's pretty tragic.
A guitarist in one of the 80s hair bands said that he was eating at a restaurant, watching Nirvana on TV and thought 'Oh God, my career is over.' A year later, his band went from playing arenas to playing local bars again. A year after that and he was bussing tables.
I was 16 when Kurt passed away. His music meant the world to me. This was a very dark time for my generation. It's difficult to explain. All I can say is that it's strange to go back. I do sometimes, but rarely. I'd rather just listen to the music and have fun with it. Peace and love to all from Houston, TX. - Jon
BizWiz was 14 y.o damn right it is confusing decade. been over 32 years of tyrant dictator in my country, the fall of iraq, mess of economy, yeah...kids nowadays wonder about what grundge etc happened. greetings fellow grundge generations from across atlantic and south china and indian seas
I heard about it when I was 17. Nirvana had visited Singapore but not performed. There's a picture of Kurt grabbing colonel sander's nuts at the same mall where I had music lessons - blew my mind. He popped himself off around the time of the traditional Chinese festival where we visit graveyards. He won't mean the world to me but I knew something very big and important, something that changed the world got snuffed out.
supertrol kingtroll Remember when Soundgarden started years before Nirvana and remember when Kurt Cobain cited Soundgarden as an influence and remember when Kurt Cobain only signed with Sub-Pop because Soundgarden was signed with Sub-Pop? Me too, kid.
Sorry guys but if you were his biggest fans why did he sit n rot for like seven daze before his body was found. I believe his biggest fan would have known his every move.
,....Listen I lived thru Nirvana/Northwest rock revolution of early-mid 90s, it was a music pop culture revolution. Like never b4 and most Def never since.I was a 14 year old freshman in High School that September day in 1991 when after school MTV....They played "Smells like Teen Spirit," and I knew that moment how amazing and life changing this was.....Pixies, Sonic Youth, Replacements, Husker Du all in my top25 fav bands ever. I'm 43, born in 1977. Now, I know these 4 bands came out in early80s, but give me a break. Hardly any teens/early 20 somethings fr 1982-89 were listening to those bands or REM...Maybe at best? 12% of American youth in 80s were...Other 88%? Listening to crap hair/clown bands...Nirvana took what those four bands were doing and then added their own spin on it and created their sound. So my point is after Nirvana, kids my age were turned on more to bands like Husker Du, The Mats, Pixies,Sonic Youth, Joy Division, Clash, Sex Pistols, Ramones . It's a fact those 4 bands bank accounts aren't as deep as they are today if Nirvana didn't come around to "knock down the door." Those 4 bands? Fucking outstanding. But unfortunately teens/20 somethings in 80s didn't have quite as good of taste as early-mid 90s kids had. I love 80s alternative /post punk bands. But early-mid 90s Northwest rock n roll is the best. There has never been a band that "made or broke" other bands like Nirvana. Frank Black, Westerberg, Bob Mould, Thurston Moore are 4 my fav musicians. But they aren't sitting here today multi-millionaires without Nirvana/Pearl Jam/Soundgarden/AIC along with a countless many other early-mid 90s bands kicking down the door for them....REM's best work was in early-mid 90s. A lot due to 90s alternative scene. Which went way deeper than just Seattle bands...For first time the mainstream went to the underground in early-mid 90s...Why? Cuz Generation X had such good taste. We were done with plastic, soul-less, watered down crap like KISS, Poison, Warrent, Judas Priest, Motley Crue, Def Lepp...We were sick of rockstars. Early-mid 90s finally accomplished what those 4 bands u mentioned were trying do the entire 1980s...Make music matter again. Not about theatrics or dressing up like clown rockstars...Just jeans, tshirt and bass line & lyrics....Nirvana looked like 3 guys who could be you. Early-mid 90s killed rock stars. That was main goal. I honestly think Bob Mould's best work was in 90s with Sugar. Pixies getting back together in 21st Century. Seen them twice in 2010. Without Nirvana, Frank Black has no career in 90s like he did. Personally I think Frank Black did some his best work in 90s with Catholics, 1994 solo album "Teenager of the Year," is arguably his best. Pixies weren't around that much longer than Nirvana..Just a few years before. But Pixies laid blueprint for what became Nirvana. Never seen two bands help each other more unknowingly. Nirvana, Pjam, AIC, SGarden, Toadies, STP, Tool, Bush, Pumpkins, NIN, Primus, Janes Addiction, ect will always be my favorite top bands. But I absolutely love underground 1980s, Lil late 70s punk and post punk. Depeche Mode, OMD, Pixies, Mats, HuskerDu, REM, Cure, New Order, Talking Heads, basically 80s alternative channel on Pandora. Early-mid 90s were by far best time period in music. Not mention hip hop or that great British wave of great bands in early-mid 90s.(Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Charlton UKs, Radiohead.) Girl bands in early-mid 90s! So many great ones... Plus the total birth of rave culture. Electronica/dance music was even at its best 1991--97.
@@jasonpeters9865 I honestly don't think you can say when the best music was being made. You can pick almost any year from 1950 til now and find GREAT bands and musicians. When I first heard Nirvana Teen Spirit, I thought it was a good song but I'd been listening to music JUST like it for almost 10 years. I'm only 5 years older than you, but I grew up in the Bay Area and went to see bands at least once a month mostly in small clubs. Sometimes good music is popular, but often it's not... I'm guessing you really like that era of ,music because that is when you really started to listen to music. Trust me, there is amazing music out there it's just hard to find sometimes...
@@nonebiz2132 it’s a generational and demographic thing...truth is, guitar based music made by three to five young white males playing instruments is a thing of the past....there aren’t’ enough white kids left for it to be big anymore and the ones that are left are into rap....there is great music I’m sure, today, but it’s not widespread, it’s not “the thing” anymore and no one in their forties and fifties and sixties 20 to 30 years from now will be talking about it....sucks, but true....rock was a demographic thing and the demos don’t support it anymore....
@@Hawkman-ns9jw I never associated "rock" with white males, Jimi, Janice, Heart, Body Count, Suicidal Tendencies, etc. all coming from a blues (Albert King, BB, Muddy Waters, etc) influence. Truth is folk music is making a big comeback, and so rock will probably come back again in 10-20 years. It's all on cycles of when it's "popular". If your parents listen to rap, most likely kids will listen to something else :-)
LIKE IT OR NOT THIS BAND CHANGED THE WORLD!!! Thier song captured the angst and the feeling of young people at that time perfectly and became thier anthem just amazing. Still one of my favorite bands of ALL TIME, fucking shame we didnt get more music from them!!🤬🤬😭😭 I'm not sure another band has really been the universal band for younger white kids since Nirvana, Korn kinda did it for awhile but NIRVANA DID IT ON ANOTHER LEVEL!!!
Keith Richards tells it like it is, he is the only celeb who cites untreated mental illness as the real issue. It sounds harsh, but there is a hidden compassion in his assessment, obviously has some insight into the perils of fame combined with substance abuse.
I suspect that it is a prickly issue for Richards due to former band mate Brian Jones, who at age 27 went to an early grave and suffered from untreated substance abuse and mood swings.
That's the problem. People take HOW he is saying something & finding an issue. They don't listen to WHAT he is saying! He's absolutely correct. Cobain was, & remains to this day a great figure in music & art in general, but his personality was not one that could cope with being thrust into the role of "voice of a generation." It was not what he wanted, nor something he was able to handle without abusing drugs. It's a shame, but it is what it is. Criticizing Keith & Ron for coming off as mean or cold is missing the point of what they say.
+Edward van halen Nah. Richards is good...Woods the piece of shit here, clearly. I think Richards went off his own point...probably on account of damaged brain cells, when he said the plumber thing. He sort of went joke-y and became an asshole through his words.
Zeppelin lover No, he never once said they were "old" and that was the reason why he said that they're overrated. He is simply stating his opinion, which is he thinks they are overrated. Just because you disagree with someone that doesn't approve of something that you like, doesn't necessarily mean your opinion is higher. It just means he probably liked music that wasn't so mainstream in the early 70's, like King Crimson, Yes or Curved Air.
Do not speak for me LOL. I never said anything about them being old. I'm talking more about the fans. The fans overrate the band. Not that the band is actual garbage.
Bruce Springsteen commenting about the Seattle music that evolved from the 80s underground scene is like Prince Charles commenting about punk in 76-77.
+Boko Kotar kurt didn't steal anything if you watch this documentary on grunge all of the bands said they wore flannel shirts and flappy jeans were started by the first punk rockers smart guy
I agree with Ronnie at the end. I get that those grunge bands were doing what they loved by playing and writing music but if they didn't want to become so famous then why work so hard to get to the top? Why didn't they just play in little known bars or not write songs they knew would make the charts? They had a gaggle of rock bands preceding them that showed how difficult and stressful being a rockstar is, so they couldn't have pleaded ignorance on that. You can't tell me that they consciously came into it thinking, "Well, every good band before us became famous because they were talented. We are also like them but it probably won't be as chaotic for us." Basically they wanted the money and fame but just not all the bad stuff that came with it. It doesn't work like that and they should have had the wisdom to deal with that.
does it ever occur to you that maybe some artists started making music simply because they wanted to make music, and make a living off of it? not everybody wants to be rich and famous, some people have a genuine love for the music and just want to contribute. and to be perfectly honest, i find it offensive that so many people are unable to see that as a possibility... i think ronnie's comments outed him as someone who only gave a shit about fame and fortune, which just makes me and many people like me respect him a great deal less. i love the man's body of work, but found his comments extremely disillusioning! like is that all he ever cared about?? "Well, every good band before us became famous because they were talented. We are also like them but it probably won't be as chaotic for us." of course i think bands (especially coming from the underground, as nirvana did) can feel that way! do you really think they thought they would hit beatles status fame? i certainly don't think so. i think they just did their thing and before they knew it, they were far bigger than they'd ever wanted.
Maybe they initially wanted the fame and money without knowing what kind of life that would be and how many leaches and scum it would bring out of the woodwork. I think that's what happened with Cobain. He wanted it, got it and it fucked him over. Nirvana had a ridiculous level of fame at the time though. That would fuck anyone up.
Jane's Addiction, Faith No More, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Lollapalooza had already happened before Nirvana hit. They were simply the first band to hit superstardom. The music scene had already changed dramatically by the time Nevermind was released.
u-said-what? Nirvana had an album before Nevermind, so they were around since the late 80s.. Nevermind opened the door to masses for alternative rock to be popular though
Well, respectfully to Robert at 6:25, I don't think anyone could ever get fed up with what you guys did in Led Zeppelin! That was just too awesome to ever forget. Rather, this was just an extension.
It wasn't even really Led and Floyd people were sick of. It was more of Whitesnake, Motley Crue, Cinderella, Def Leppard, etc. that people were tired of. Though, do like hearing Robert say that, just because he didn't seem jealous or like he was too great of a person for people to be tired of him. Nice to see musicians with humbleness and humanity rather than...well, Axl Rose lol
DrawingYouToob I never really got that 80's stuff. I've always been a 70's guy even though I was just a kid during that time. Well, up to about the mid 70's when I was a teen! But, I really did like a lot of the 90's stuff like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Alice 'n Chain, etc. that was great stuff too!
DrawingYouToob Haha Axl is known for being a shitbag and I don't deny that but after reading Slash's book, Axl actually can be really humble at times too.
***** You make some good points. Agreed that the drugs limited their potential but Robert Plants lyrics were above average, I mean he's no Bob Dylan but he was good. His stage persona was fairly average. But you must agree his voice was exceptional. The guitar noodling and drum solos were a little tedious but nonetheless good. And In through the out door had some decent songs, "Fool In the Rain" "In the evening" But was overall not as good as their previous album. They screwed up yes, but you make it sound bigger than it was.
I'm so fucking tired of everybody associating Nirvana with Smells Like Teen Spirit or Nevermind. Go fucking listen to Bleach and even songs off of Insesticide or Sliver. Nirvana didn't have one album. I know the band members sure as fuck got tired of it back in the day.
Chill. You don't think that song changed the grunge scene forever? Yeah, they had a lot of other amazing songs, including Pennyroyal Tea and Aneurysm, but this song was one of the best ones to come out
+Keegan Buckley Most popular doesn't automatically mean best.Maybe it does to the media brainwashed people but not for everyone.I personally think it's one of their worse songs not to mention it and the entire Nevermind Album was over polished in the studio.The Band was very clear about the production of the Album = They hated it!!!!
blows my mind. not a lot of years and 3 albums yet one of the biggest impacts on music and popular culture. crazy to think if he never died. wish i could’ve been alive for that time
Kurt, Dave And Krist influenced and inspired music in my life. The reason I picked up a guitar was Kurt... Man, this dude always will be one of my favorites hands down.
It seems like Robert Plant's comment is taken way out of context, based on the comments here. I think that what he meant was that America got their first "mainstream" punk band. Punk was already commercial in England, with bands like the Sex Pistols, Sham 69 and Stiff Little Fingers charting very well over there. Yes, we had punk too, but it always stayed underground until Nirvana came along. I mean, yes, everyone waxes poetic about The Ramones, but let's be honest, they still weren't selling a bunch of records, and the Misfits practically sold more t-shirts than albums.
"Someone should have been taking care of the man... he was obviously a lunatic in the first place" Awfully rich coming from a guy who in 1967 let the police raid his home while he was dropping acid, thinking that the men were dwarves. I'll be a Stones fan till the day I die...but Richards has some serious nerve commenting on the problems of another great but tortured artist. It's fair to say that as those words were coming out of his mouth, half of Columbia was up his nose. He only got clean of it 8 years ago... He has probably done far worse damage to his body than Kurt Cobain and Brian Jones combined. God must be a huge Stones fan because Richard's longevity on Earth is nothing short of a miracle.
liljgoneman wow, good one. Reminds of 'I'm rubber and you are glue....'. You don't know the first thing about punk rock, stop pretending you are edgy, everyone knows just how vanilla you actually are.
***** What does famous have to do with anything? Does that mean Beiber and Taylor Swift know more about music than anyone who hasn't sold as many records? Ridiculous and lazy argument.
If you were born in the 80's and grew up in the 90's, that opening riff to Smells Like Teen Spirit was the opening riff to your life in the 90's. Has anyone built a time machine yet?
If you were born in the sixties and grew up in the 70”s (for many music lovers) that’s first riff was like slo-motion simplified and never anywhere to blow your mind and you were looking around going, are you people serious? The musicianship is not very good but whatever... Shake your head, and wear your flannel.. Now Janes Addiction just a few years earlier! That shit would blow your head off! As would Rush, Sabbath, Zepp, even a couple songs from Chicago, Watch Terry Haths guitar work Chicago “25 or 6 to four” tanglewood video on here. Dude takes it to another level.. all good enjoy what you enjoy!
Doesn’t matter if Nirvana were great musicians.. their impact on the industry is why they’re so legendary.. they opened the flood gates for alternative rock to the mainstream... thats why they are important
haha well put, but he was certainly more concise about his thoughts in interviews. He seemed to be a deep thinker which perhaps contributed to his anxiety. Sometimes I appreciate seemingly nonsensical lyrics written in an attempt to convey emotion without regard for weaving together ideas. It can be refreshing. This is coming from someone who adores some of the great stories found in Neil Young, and his Admirer, Eddie Vedder's lyrics. Hell, I can't forget Tom Petty or Tracy Chapman's "Fast Car".
Henry Rollins was kinda off when he said, that Nirvana tapped into a chunk of American White Youths. Kurt Cobain, and Nirvana's music crossed generes and races..
@CurrentLee Yeah but Kurt would be the first one to tell you their music isn't just about speaking to white americans. The anti-establishment message in some ways that Nirvana spoke about could transcend all races. Hell Rap is based off being anti-establishment
I was born in 1979, so I was 11/12 years old when Nevermind came out. It absolutely just blew everything apart at the time, as I was too young to be into the 80s college rock/punk /underground seen, I remember “Smells like Teen Spirit” just being the biggest song, when I was in 5th grade. However, I seem to remember listening to Pear Jam’s Ten w friends in grade school, before that song came out . Ten was released a month before Nevermind, and of course singles from it blew up, but I just remember being so into that album right before Nevermind came out. We had friends who had multiple older brothers, and definitely had access to it when Ten released, and if you were old enough and remotely liked rock music, you had Nevermind, or the “Smells like Teen Spirit “ cassette single right when it came out, or soon after. I remember having been into stuff like Motley Crue, Metallica, Guns n Roses, classic rock, etc before Nevermind came out, and Smells like teen Spirit changed everything. They played it at our 6th and 7th grade dances, it was just everywhere. I remember by 7th grade, I had gotten into Sonic Youth’s “Goo”, started taking guitar lessons, was still into Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, RATM, and slowly shifted towards discovering more “indie rock” , or other stuff like Pavement, Guided by Voices, Built to Spill, Pixies, Bikini Kill, was way more into Sonic Youth, by 9th grade, through my guitar teacher, then through indie magazines, zines, etc, which completely changed everything from 15- present day, as far as spending every weekend from 15-late 20s going into NYC to see bands w friends, or go to smaller record shops. I still play guitar daily, write/record, jam with a couple friends, and seek out new music all the time, but I would def attribute going to guitar lessons to Nirvana, who I think probably caused a massive amount of kids my age in the early 90s to pick up guitar (every one of my friends picked it up, although maybe 1 stayed w it besides me) and probably continued to get kids to pick up guitar, start bands, and seek out other lesser known music for years after that. Kurt always promoted the bands he loved by covering them (the vaselines, meat puppets..) or wearing their t-shirts (he was a huge reason why most people checked out Daniel Johnston) , was friends with Kim & Thurston of Sonic Youth, Kathleen Hannah of Bikini Kill, Buzz and Dale of Melvins. It was such an incredible time to be a pre teen, or teen, or just anyone who loved guitar driven rock /punk , whatever you wanna call it, type music. It definitely felt like how my parents described the British Invasion , w the Beatles and the Stones, when they were kids. I do truly miss those days, and i am grateful I grew up when I did. I’ll never in my life, forget the day Kurt was announced dead. My friends and I were walking to our friend’s house, bc it was his birthday. We got there and he was out on his porch crying. We asked what happened, and he said “Kurt died”. We all ran up into his bedroom, huddled around his small tv, and watched MTV for hours, as the news was nonstop, people were gathering in the park in Seattle, Courtney read his “suicide note”(I’m not saying he did or didn’t kill himself) I just will never forget that day. It reminds me of when people talk about John Lennon being murdered. The whole world felt like it stopped the day it was announced that his body was found. I like to imagine what Kurt would be doing if he were alive today. I think he’d probably still be playing guitar, probably solo, and be even more disappointed with the state of popular music, than he was in the 90s. Who knows? It was just a time I’m glad I experienced, and so completely grateful for how it influenced me, as far as being the main band/type of music that made me pick up guitar in the first place , opened up 1000s of bands/artists that I love today. I don’t know where I’d be without the music I love, or playing guitar, as playing and writing music is probably the only thing I’m relatively good at, and my one main form of expression and catharsis. I apologize for the length of this. It really brought back some great memories. Some sad ones too, but I miss that time of my life so badly.
He’d be fat, bald and boring and pale just like his group’s fan demographic....and people would be making fun of him and saying it’s time to hang it up and asking why he sucks so bad today....
Yes, Nirvana was definitely not the only grunge band of the 90's, but they're the band that really pushed it all out. Nirvana, I believe, gave birth to grunge. And when Nirvana was forced to stop, grunge died.
I'm 37. Its 2019 and yet this band is still relatable and loved by many. Too bad music is no longer this good or meaningful. Heres to another 20 years of nirvana. Long live the 90s!
Kyle Blanford he’s great but i feel he’s a bit overrated. They’re were so many more musicians that were better than him, like Chris Cornell, Layne Staley, Eddie Vedder, Shannon Hoone, etc
Indeed! I was 27, a life long rock fan, in '91. 'Nevermind'~ OMG, finally! Real. Raw. Rock. KC's NOT overrated. His genius & contribution to rock music: Priceless. Eternal. RIP♡KC
Kurt is awesome but would have been dead in five years anyway from heroin addiction. Nevertheless, I am forever grateful for Nirvana for exposing me to The Pixies, Slint, Fugazi, Sonic Youth and so many great underground bands and the Seattle scene including Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice In Chains. I'll never forget the first time I saw Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" video... it was like "Thank you for restoring my interest in music!"
Good point. At the time of Kurt's final decision, his addiction was so bad that music was far and away the last thing on his mind. He was so sick from drug use and at the same time conflicted and tortured about his art turning mainstream. His music being accepted by the masses killed him.
TimKaren Vermeulen Layne Staley is the epitome of an addiction that turned a former übertalent into a shell of the person he once was. His was the saddest story of all rockstars in my opinion. Just read about what he was like the last few weeks he was alive,
Skynyrd disproved that fucking delusion at Knebworth in '76. So, fuck those has been limey cocksuckers. They've been a filler band since Some Girls, as relevant as an electric dog polisher and almost as necessary.
Granted, but regardless through what means, or how you learn of something, its that you were able to learn of it all is what's important. I was flipping through channels as a 7th grader, and come across that Vh1's 100 Greatest Songs of the 90's countdown. I watched the whole thing from the 98th to the 1st. Learning about Smells Like Teen Spirit, Finally putting a name and a face to the song I'd heard on the radio here and there. Since then I haven't found anything worth watching on Vh1. Still grateful for that countdown! It planted a seed as a middle schooler, that would eventually sprout in high school. Nirvana was just what I needed. I've branched out, listened to their albums, -bout shit myself watching them live unplugged lol, searched every nook and cranny for the rarities. Kurt's home recordings. etc.. I've devoured and savored every piece if music I've found of them since then and will continue to do so! ...Probably the only good thing Vh1 had to offer. Their late night "Nocturnal" music they played wasn't so bad. They played the Foo Fighters, "My Hero" music video, and that's how I was able to learn of them. :) still though, I get your point.
Name his first name Cobain. And even if kids try to make fun of him it wont stick. Cause hes named after the most influential man of an entire generation... I think he'll be fine lol
Pretty cold from Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood at the end. Cobain was a heroine addict with a jealous heroine addict wife and got too famous too fast. A bit harsh just dismissing him as a lunatic and some guy having an identity crisis.
He's been around that shit his whole life since he's been a Stone. "Another dead rockstar? So what?" It was just not a big deal to him at this point. And i like how he says that the nobodies killing themselves everyday, the world dont give a shit about. Why would the world mourne on one single man they have nothing to do with, besides being a kiss-ass fan-boy?
I think Keith at least was mad at the attempts to romanticize his death. He does seem cold, but honestly Keith has seen a lot of people die. He's probably pissed at the attemps to make that "mean something".
They are just fucking jealous. That’s all it is. Just cannot handle the fact that nirvana were a band that destroyed all the other bands before them stones included.
To some how make money with out fame? or they have some kinda compulsion to get their views on things and the world out to people, sorta like what I'm doing right now with this comment lol, sharing an opinion. No idea why , why bother flapping their mouths around using words? I'm unconscious as to why we do this. Who cares what the frig a few dudes who play instruments have to say? Pretty pointless... Guess we're all that bored. Sooo must be for money, or they want to ramble about stupid crap like I'm doing right now. Can't avoid fame when making show bizz money , can't avoid fame when when sharing your thoughts to people in bulk , fame comes with it all . Even that mouse head mask DJ techno guy is famous , and he hides behind a mouse head lololol :D blahblahblahblahblah
You know, it wasn't just the hit song "Teen Spirit" that made it so popular and attractive to fans, but the music video that so perfectly reflected the songs overall theme and syntax making a significant impact on individuals as well. Honestly, eventhough it's a terrible thing to say, I'm somewhat content with Kurt passing away. Their fore he never had the opportunity to sell out like most popular grunge bands from the 90's ended up doing in the end, because they ended up getting tunnel vision due to all the chaos from living that type of lifestyle, caring more about money, sex, and drugs than the actual music itself. Anyway R.I.P., Kurt Cobain, you are a music legend, and always will be an inspiration to us all. And I want to thank you for all the wonderful music you have introduced into our lives!♥️🎼🎶
Um, hey Mr. Plant... "America finally got your own Punk." Really? The Ramones and the New York Dolls are STILL waiting for a "THANK YOU!" from the entirety of the British Punk movement for, ya know, CREATING THE GENRE.
“I’m a ReAL fAn BeCaUsE I DoNt LiKe tEeN SpiRiT” those people are so annoying I love all their songs
I know, it's like someone saying that someone can't like Black Hole Sun or Man in the Box from Soundgarden and Alice in Chains, because they're their biggest songs. I mean, I appreciate all songs from every single one of the bands--except for On A Plain, because that song is just so country-ish (blah).
LOL exactly! They think they understand Kurt and that because he grew tired of it, them not liking it makes them cool.
I like all their songs but Lithium is my favorite.
The only talent in Nirvana formed the Foo Fighters
@@roxannemoser Run before you get crucified by other Nirvana fans
@@roxannemoser really?
Only came here for plants opinion
Love Bob, but his is the dumbest comment in the whole video.
me too!
yes!!!!
Punk was in NYC before England. Stooges, Iggy Pop, Goo Goo Dolls
firstofficerspock311 GooGoo dolls came out in the 90s
"What happened in America is that you finally got your own punk." -Robert Plant 06:42
Dunno about that....what do you call Iggy Pop and the Ramones then? Didn't punk really originate in the USA?
@@SharkMinnow punk happened but grunge was the real American punk in my opinion
@@SharkMinnowthere's always a clamouring on posts like this to claim origin. It doesn't matter where punk originated, what Plant meant was that unlike in the UK, punk didn't sweep everything else out of the way for a time. But with grunge in the 90s, it was as if that were happening again: a scene developed that was radically different to what was around at the time in terms of mainstream, it had its own look and sound, and had labels scrambling to be a part of it.
That was his point. Iggy Pop or Joey Ramone can be first if he wants...the first of anything is just the first marker to be passed, it can be a poisoned chalice.
Punk and Grunge are NOT the same.
@@SharkMinnow It did, and there was always a huge underground punk/hardcore scene in the US during the 80's. I think what Robert Plant meant was that America had finally got it's *commercially* viable punk. Punk had already been mainstream in the UK, with bands like the Sex Pistols, the Buzzcocks, Sham 69, and Angelic Upstarts, but it wasn't until Nirvana that the US started seeing punk on the charts. Hell, I don't think even the Ramones had a top 40 record. :T
I saw Plant and I watched, good clickbait
but there was no clickbait
@Bryce Thibodeaux - The ramones deserve lots of credit, but they initally weren't too popular. It took over a decade for them to become a part of pop culture and influence EVERYONE. Whereas The Sex Pistols immediately became a western hemispherical phenomenon from the get go like Nirvana. It was an immediate effect, unlike the Ramones. Plant also forgets to mention The Pixies, who were the biggest band to influence Kurt and many other 90's acts.
@@IgnorancEnArrogance The Ramones actually came to England and inspired the Clash and Sex Pistols. The main difference is that in England, it was fashion and music. In fact, the Ramones suffered because of British punk; promoters thought all punk bands were like the Pistols, and the Ramones got rejected for it. But punk is an American invention.
@@ericnierstedt6242 All popular music is an American invention. Blues,Country, Jazz, Rock, Soul,Punk, New Wave, Rap.Even Big Band and Swing. England has produced some of the greatest musicians of all time. But they all got their inspiration from American music.
@@ericnierstedt6242 They might have inspired/influenced punk, but they can't take the credit for it. They were around for years and years without widespread popularity. As was said, the Pistols were an instant western hemisphere sensation overnight. It's like saying because certain bands influenced them, that those bands 'invented' Led Zeppelin's sound. All music is influenced somehow and somewhere by what came before.
Robert Plant meant that Nirvana were the same seismic shift away from a previous form of music just like the archetypal punk bands over here were much earlier. Nirvana were an overnight success and spoke to an entire generation, that's why he compares it to punk. And of course, he means 'British' punk, as if it needs disambiguation. He's British and saw it happen.
Strange to hear Plant describe punk as the rejection of "the skeleton of the Beatles" and Nirvana as "America finally getting its own punk" when Kurt Cobain was staying up till 3am listening to Beatles records.
You completely missed the point, my dude
Nick Rizzo not really. I love Robert Plant but he sounds kind of ignorant of the New York punk scene in the 70s with The Ramones, New York Dolls, Blondie, Talking Heads etc.
Herve B did any of them take over the country like the sex pistols or nirvana?
@@HerveBoisde bro the talking heads are like the most post punk ass band ever
I think you missed the point. Although he protested some of their lyrics, Kurt was also a big fan of Zeppelin. He had communication breakdown graffitied on his wall, covered their songs, and he even wrote a song about poser bands that copied LZ. Plant has said in multiple interviews that Punk, in a way was a rebellion against the grandiosity of what big rock bands had become. That comparison carries over into American grunge after hair metal bands.
Keith Richards, the guy who snorted his father's ashes, calls Kurt Cobain crazy smh.
Relaxing Korean Cobain is fucking tame compared to the shit that richards done.
yeah, he probably knows how to identify "crazy"
Michael Harrington People blow their brains out all the time. yes it takes a lot to do that, but how many people have you heard of snort their own fathers ashes? like wtf possess a person to do that??
party
jrmorazan I personally think that it was the result of an error due to intoxication in an attempt to get more intoxicated, it's not crazy at all.
Krist became a politician. lol hes going to pass a law making it illegal to not walk up escalators.
hahahahah..yes! :D
that interview fucking that funny
Milk Prince dude fuck, past couple of years I've done nothing but despise escalator standers, asking them to use it properly.
You just maybe me remember what made me capture that logic aha
Is that funny to you? What have you accomplished? I hope you at least voted....
so people will have to walk up them?? .. anyway, that is a bit totalitarian isn't it? making laws telling people how to walk, when to walk...
Nirvana is much more than just teen spirit, In Utero is one of the greatest 20 albums of all time, and probably one of the rawest ever easily. It's as pure as it gets.
its great but definitely not the rawest album
Bleach!
Incesticide!
In utero is mediocre. Nevermind was their best works.
Bleach is better but I love all the albums my opinion tho. I think inuteros art work is amazing
SLTS got so popular that now it is criminally underrated because hating it is the hipster thing to do. The truth is, the song is wonderfully simple, yet incredibly musically subtle for a four chord song, the vocals are outstanding, and the vibe is relentless.
According to the internet anything popular is bad lol
@Juan Perez Kill the life that’s inside of mmmmmeeeeeeee
The chords E-A then G-C is simple genius. I think I remember Cobain said he got that from The Pixies, but made a harder production.
@@richatlarge462 it’s a stolen and tweaked song… more than a feeling by Boston. Kurt admitted this and that’s one of the reasons he hated that it was the one that everyone paid attention to and he used to play them both together jokingly live
@@alexv1190 Ooh that's right, I forgot about that. But he must have been referring to the strum pattern, not the actual chords. Because More than A Feeling would be E-A-C#m-B, which is totally different than E-A-G-C. But the strumming pattern is the same, and yes I remember that clip of when they mashed up the two songs (and did an awful job, in the true punk spirit).
Jello Biafra, said it best ....."they were a rock band inspired by punk, not a punk band inspired by rock."
***** Yes, I'm agreeing with you Kurt had great taste in music and his influence! He was first and foremost a fan of music. Nirvana had deep seeded roots in the punk sound. Kurt was a big fan of early 1st wave alternative and punk for sure
You all realize that Grunge is a scene not a sound right? I see a lot of “experts” say no way Alice In Chains was more grunge or Nirvana was the most grunge and Sound Garden just copied them. These bands are not comparable in sound, the only similarities is in that they just so happened to be in Seattle and part of a scene called grunge. Now who is a better band in general can be argued though pointless cause it’s all subjective and can’t be proven but I digress.
Yes exactly Grunge defines a scene/movement of Seattle it's not a genre of rock
Every band from that era had their own style/influences when it comes to sound/lyrics
Grunge was an attitude..it's rainy and foggy..i'm on heron in a garage playing dirty rock
aya_8 kurt was amazing but Chris Cornell was on another level
Soundgarden, baby. All the way.
Yay know .....I'm bored with the which of the four big grunge bands was the best - they were all incredible, we were lucky to have them - we all miss Kurt, and Layne and Chris and Andy Wood and are sad their demons got them.
8:13 goosebumps when Pete said that.
Yes. Most salient observation, and saddest, of the bunch.
I just came here for Plant's opinion
Lívia Rodrigues so did i
as did i
Chris Cornell,Michael Patton, Bruce Dickinson....just 3 vocalists that were/are better than Plant
kmsharley75 false
plant is only a freakin' fairy!!!!!!!!uk are know for stealing creativities without letting others know ….plant should know this from his famous band....asshole uk thinks they are the only creators!!!!!!!!!!!!!"bollocks"!!!!!!!!! USA started blues ,punk , psychedelia, and others100% uk only stoled them and copied them without giving royalties to original creators......beatles led zeppelin!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nirvana is much more than just teen spirit
Agustín Lichtenstein thank you😂
Thank you. That intro literally gave me cancer. Had to skip though that.
Teen spirit is not good. But they have some good songs
Agustín Lichtenstein 👍👍👍
Agustín Lichtenstein yes
Smells Like Teen Spirit isn't even their best song IMO.
I rather prefer Lithuim, Come as you are, About a Girl, Aneurysm, Heart-shaped box, etc...
My favorite is the acoustic cover of Where Did You Sleep Last Night
On A Plain Big Time
Oh me is great as well.
Agreed...
Nirvana punched the music scene dead in the face.....I was 21 at the time and goddamn I loved it!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@Dustin Ducote they made music exciting
totally agree!!! & I was close in age to you & Cobain, Staley, etc.
I still love nirvana
It's coming again. The music industry and Hollywood need a shot in the arm of real artist and people. The music scene need it more now than ever. Rock n roll is dead in 2019 and in the 20's it'll come back. These pop stars and Instagram celebs will be put of business and wanting to copy the punk and outcast kids who are kicking the industry in the nuts and sticking a finger the big wigs ass
too bad that once he died the music scene went to the bottom of the bottom that we are today....
"If you don't want to be famous, why are they making records?" well, Ronnie, you of all people should know that music is about what you want to say, not about what you want to get. I love the stones, but I've never much agreed with their philosophy on things. They made great records, but they shamelessly marketed themselves as "The greatest band in the world" and despite the legends they are, I've heard plenty of people call them sellouts too.
+Joshua Jones I like the Stones but if we're honest, there's not much songs of theirs that is actually deep in its meaning.
They have a snobbish attitude that I never liked.
People don't cry for every suicide because we don't know them like we 'knew' Kurt. We get strongly attached to our favorite artists and it's normal, at least to me, that we get sad and mourn them more than we do a stranger we never heard of before.
+Joshua Jones The Stones have 'tried it all' and pretty much 'done it all'... they've made some great albums and admittedly some pretty lousy albums too. But they've always been more concerned with the bigger picture, the long haul... sticking around and not necessarily wanting to change the world in the process. They've never been too concerned with making idealistically based rules for themselves. It's just rock and roll to them, a life style... and as a result, they were never thrown by the stardom... they just rolled with it.
+Yelling Elk well put..
Yelling Elk so... What does that make them cool to you? That they were never effected by fame? That's every bit as superficial reason to like them as the whole point of this conversation i brought up. I think you've lost sight, friend. And anyone that +1'd your comment.
+Joshua Jones Nah... I'm not impressed by the mere fact that they're stars...(that'd be a little shallow don't ya think?). I just think the Stones are a great rock band that's all. And I never said they weren't affected... or as you put it, (effected) by stardom... I said they were never thrown by stardom. Big difference friend!
Keith Richards was high as hell lol. Here he actually seemed a bit jealous of all the attention cobain got imo.
Keith Richards is always like that no matter what. He’s such a cry baby
Keith Richards does seem like a very jealous person because he always insults other bands. Even with all his success, there's a complex going on with him. And his insults are not even funny , he's catty and unkind
I think he thought suicide was a coward's way out and Kurt was a hypocrite complaining about fame.
Plus Richard's came from a generation that grew up in post-WW II and had a different take on life's hardship and what constitued doing it tough.
@@simonperry8569I quote Mick Jagger "Fame doesn't sit well on many peoples shoulders. Some people it does not fit at all." You want to label Cobain with hypocrisy, just because he found extreme fame to be unpleasant. Basically, that's saying Cobain(or any famous person) should 'live a lie' to fit another's perception of fame. Why is that? We all have a right to change our mind about anything, including fame. And see, Brian Jones essentially killed himself too. Just in a different way. Keith Richard's didn't jump to knock Brian Jones down, even though he wasn't the nicest guy and certainly not as widely known musically as Cobain. They released butterflies at a concert to honor him. That's closer to hypocrisy. Keith Richard's could have offered perspective when the interviewer asked about Cobain, but he immediately offered a backhanded comment(like the first time I heard about Cobain was when he attempted suicide in Rome) and shut the topic down. Yeah, right Keith, Nirvana had already changed the musical landscape but you never heard about them. Not even from a musical standpoint, Keith can't offer insight even though usually he's eager to talk music because, you know, that's his profession. His whole answer is a attempt to disregard a peer.
@@jumpboy29 "You want to label Cobain with hypocrisy" I'm not labelling anyone, just trying to put some context around what Richards said, not what I believe or am saying.
"It is a very dangerous business for the practitioners" - Iggy Pop, 8:02
I thank God every day for Nirvana’s music.
First time I heard their music it blew my brains out.
Darth KEK
Lame
Real músic from the guts that's real art
And then there is freaking Robert Plant, one of the best artists I know. He didn't overdose. He didn't kill himself. He didn't die of a disease. Hell, Whole lotta love was released in 1969 or so, that means he could even know Janis Joplin. And you know what? He still sings and still is amazing. Robert Plant is good. Artists, be like Robert Plant.
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Robert Plant wasnt an original artist though. Led Zeppelin were a cover band.
Greg James lol you are a crowd following moron if you genuinely believe that.
Im not following any crowd. I simply stated a fact. The large majority of their songs are covers.
yeah normies don't usually do that stuff
I think many of these so called “rock stars/legends” who are commenting in the video, are reading into what we’ve all come to know as Nirvana, as though they were on some sort of crusade or mission to destroy rock and roll and undermine its credibility or some shit. The reality is that Nirvana was nothing more than a few young, extremely talented individuals who had a LOT to say about what they were feeling and how they perceived the world around them. There was no pre-conceived notion to knowingly create a scene (grunge) or to somehow diminish all rock music that came before them. It was what it was. They just played what was formulated thru Cobain’s intense vision. Period. No more, no less.
Although Kurt went back and forth on that. In one interview he says the 80's was shit. In another interview he says he loved New Wave and if Nirvana had simply been considered another New Wave band he would have been happy. Clearly his mood on the whole thing swayed significantly.
@@EchoBravo370 wasn’t Kurt bipolar? Poor guy with all of his mental problems, surrounded himself with horrible people and drug abused it is no wonder he ended his life the way he did.
I think Henry Rollins nails it, Nirvana became what it became because it appealed to the Gen X and early millennial white youth. Heck their most successful song it’s about the teenage angst of that generation.
Love 'em or hate 'em, you can't deny that much like the Beatles, they influenced everything that came after.
liljgoneman The grunge band that solely inspired every other band after them was Alice In Chains.
Beatles began the British invasion, reinvented how studio time was spent, album art, and had great instrumentation. Nirvana is a duplicate of the pixies. Cobain even admitted to copying them. Nirvana isn't anywhere in the league with the beatles. I don't understand why so many fanboys think nirvana is some incredible band
Daniel Borah Did you even read my post you condescending fucking schmuck?.....
liljgoneman did you read your own? Nirvana hasn't done anything for anyone else but themselves.
Daniel Borah LoL. You need a hug, dawg?......
Born in 81 in Poland. Wish to be 18 year old, loving on Seattle in early 90 when grunge and The Prodigy in UK revealed. Golden times, patties all night long. So envy. But now, at age 38, still have that rage, opposite, still listening6 to grunge, The Prpdigy5, Chemical Brother's, still in love with music, that o don't want to die, just let music pass through me. I wish all my legends to reborn to give one last live concert. Brilliant. Peace peaole. Yeah, I was drunk while writing this post, and have no regrets. Love you people.
Mike Climba Born in 64 in Detroit Dad Polish Mom English, Seattle is a commie shit hole
Come to uk dude , loads of underground clubs party on !
@@cdkmonkey2699 guess where nirvana first got recognition
@@ronnysterling7694 even worse now
the Beatles of the 90's... simple as that. when I first heard that one song... I knew.
dream until your dreams come true
@gobigorange your opinion sucks too
First time I heard that song was on SNL, when they finished, a Teen Spirit deodorant ad came on. I remember thinking, "shit somebody was on the ball with the ad placement." I almost thought it was a joke ad, but it wasn't, or at least it wasn't completely a joke. Or it was like a joke at the literal expense of the deodorant company. So weird.
I think this might have been the ad... or one just like it... ua-cam.com/video/DTLiKaDROOQ/v-deo.html
Maybe for America. Oasis was really
Kurt Cobain was born in 1967 and so was I . Watching in 2020 , he would have been 53 years old 😢 Teen Spirit is timeless , it doesn’t get old and neither did Kurt 😞 Great band , great song and a great loss . RIP Kurt Cobain ❤️
robert plant talking about punk. never thought it would happen
"I think rock and roll exists to deliver this truth that needs to be constantly delivered, rock, hiphop, whatever you call it. It reminds us this unspoken message, its that it is fun to be alive, its a hell of a lot better than being dead..." rip joe strummer
Kurt was clinically depressed. We've come a long way since the early 90's when it comes to mental health awarness
No we haven’t
@sha broussard also an amazing musician and singer, if you're gonna talk like that then you would hate 80% of bands/singers from the 50's to even today
@sha broussard basically everyone who killed themselves were trash musicians, that's a long list of worldwide famous people.
what can I even say about his guitar that hasn't been said, yes of course he wasn't hendrix but he knew how to make great music even with simple sound.
and you imply only grunge made sad music, sure no one else in no other genre made sad or depressing music, and none of them commited suicide
I'm not praising his suicide, I'm praising him as a musician and for the great music he made
@sha broussard it doesn't matter who he is, what matters is what that person gave to the world
robin williams killed himself, and was addicted to cocain, was he a trash bag retard who no one should have liked and it's good he commited suicide?
Kurt was MURDERED! #WAKETHEFUCKUP!
"You Know You're Right" is the Best!!
That's my favorite song!!!!
Dive
correction: Alice in Chains was signed BEFORE Nirvana. I'm Layne's biggest fan. trust me on this.
Jennifer Shawley Layne is the King of Kings
ohhh for sure!!! Layne is everything.
Jennifer Shawley I think they were saying sign to major labels
And i think soundgarden were signed in 89 to a big label, everybody was already signed before Nirvana
reficul1984 I meant that as well. I am almost 100% certain that AIC was signed to Atlantic before Nirvana was signed to a major label. I think Soundgarden was signed shortly after...it was like a domino effect once grudge hit the nation tho, so it's almost hard to say...it's almost like they were all signed at once. I remember it happening...it was crazy! i was 13 and going into the 8th grade. i went from thinking that when I got to high school I'd be sporting huge teased hair, long red fingernails, leather mini skirts, etc...to one day waking up and begging my mom for my first pair of doc martens. lol. i grabbed a hold of grunge and never let it go. it was everything to me. it just seemed so poetic and made sense to me, I absolutely loved it. and to this day I still do. with the music that's out today I am SO grateful that I grew up when I did. I hate to sound cliche but most of today's music is f'n garbage. people like Layne, Kurt and Eddie put their soul into their songs.. we are starving for that type of genuine and raw emotion today. it's pretty tragic.
A guitarist in one of the 80s hair bands said that he was eating at a restaurant, watching Nirvana on TV and thought 'Oh God, my career is over.' A year later, his band went from playing arenas to playing local bars again. A year after that and he was bussing tables.
I hope he's doing fine nowadays
If he went from playing arenas to bussing tables that's not on anyone else, it's on his inability to manage the millions of $s he squandered.
I was 16 when Kurt passed away. His music meant the world to me. This was a very dark time for my generation. It's difficult to explain. All I can say is that it's strange to go back. I do sometimes, but rarely. I'd rather just listen to the music and have fun with it. Peace and love to all from Houston, TX. - Jon
BizWiz was 14 y.o damn right it is confusing decade. been over 32 years of tyrant dictator in my country, the fall of iraq, mess of economy, yeah...kids nowadays wonder about what grundge etc happened. greetings fellow grundge generations from across atlantic and south china and indian seas
All the truths about life we had been taught felt like a lie and all of a sudden Nirvana pops up and we knew that we were not alone in our thoughts
I heard about it when I was 17. Nirvana had visited Singapore but not performed. There's a picture of Kurt grabbing colonel sander's nuts at the same mall where I had music lessons - blew my mind. He popped himself off around the time of the traditional Chinese festival where we visit graveyards. He won't mean the world to me but I knew something very big and important, something that changed the world got snuffed out.
Except Soundgarden was signed to a major record label before Nirvana was lol.
soundgarden is weak. lol
supertrol kingtroll Remember when Soundgarden started years before Nirvana and remember when Kurt Cobain cited Soundgarden as an influence and remember when Kurt Cobain only signed with Sub-Pop because Soundgarden was signed with Sub-Pop? Me too, kid.
doesn't make them any less weak. Soundgarden sucks
supertrol kingtroll nirvana is weak. lol
Tony Pepperoni
mmhmm
It's crazy how convinced people are that Nirvana was the only grunge band.
Not the only one, but the best in their and many others opinions, and clearly the most famous.
Temple of the Dog, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Motherlovebone
+shadedoom Exactly
+shadedoom I'm not disputing that there were plenty of good ones, but Nirvana was the first to achieve serious nationwide success.
Evan Dona I know what you mean man, they were definitely the ones everyone knew about a paid attention to.
I think the age of rockstars died in a certain way with Kurt. I read Jim Morrison's lost poems and Kurt's diary. They were so similar
Smells like teen spirit for ten minutes straight.
One time is enough
Sorry guys but if you were his biggest fans why did he sit n rot for like seven daze before his body was found. I believe his biggest fan would have known his every move.
It's amazing how many great songs Kurt created with nothing more than a few power chords.
I think lots of punks wanted more simpler songs and not necessarily jimmy page level of solos
"and then it got real quiet" not to those of us listening to the Replacements, Husker Du, the Pixies, sonic youth
Everything was word of mouth, because the record companies were evil...
,....Listen I lived thru Nirvana/Northwest rock revolution of early-mid 90s, it was a music pop culture revolution. Like never b4 and most Def never since.I was a 14 year old freshman in High School that September day in 1991 when after school MTV....They played "Smells like Teen Spirit," and I knew that moment how amazing and life changing this was.....Pixies, Sonic Youth, Replacements, Husker Du all in my top25 fav bands ever. I'm 43, born in 1977. Now, I know these 4 bands came out in early80s, but give me a break. Hardly any teens/early 20 somethings fr 1982-89 were listening to those bands or REM...Maybe at best? 12% of American youth in 80s were...Other 88%? Listening to crap hair/clown bands...Nirvana took what those four bands were doing and then added their own spin on it and created their sound. So my point is after Nirvana, kids my age were turned on more to bands like Husker Du, The Mats, Pixies,Sonic Youth, Joy Division, Clash, Sex Pistols, Ramones . It's a fact those 4 bands bank accounts aren't as deep as they are today if Nirvana didn't come around to "knock down the door." Those 4 bands? Fucking outstanding. But unfortunately teens/20 somethings in 80s didn't have quite as good of taste as early-mid 90s kids had. I love 80s alternative /post punk bands. But early-mid 90s Northwest rock n roll is the best. There has never been a band that "made or broke" other bands like Nirvana. Frank Black, Westerberg, Bob Mould, Thurston Moore are 4 my fav musicians. But they aren't sitting here today multi-millionaires without Nirvana/Pearl Jam/Soundgarden/AIC along with a countless many other early-mid 90s bands kicking down the door for them....REM's best work was in early-mid 90s. A lot due to 90s alternative scene. Which went way deeper than just Seattle bands...For first time the mainstream went to the underground in early-mid 90s...Why? Cuz Generation X had such good taste. We were done with plastic, soul-less, watered down crap like KISS, Poison, Warrent, Judas Priest, Motley Crue, Def Lepp...We were sick of rockstars. Early-mid 90s finally accomplished what those 4 bands u mentioned were trying do the entire 1980s...Make music matter again. Not about theatrics or dressing up like clown rockstars...Just jeans, tshirt and bass line & lyrics....Nirvana looked like 3 guys who could be you. Early-mid 90s killed rock stars. That was main goal. I honestly think Bob Mould's best work was in 90s with Sugar. Pixies getting back together in 21st Century. Seen them twice in 2010. Without Nirvana, Frank Black has no career in 90s like he did. Personally I think Frank Black did some his best work in 90s with Catholics, 1994 solo album "Teenager of the Year," is arguably his best. Pixies weren't around that much longer than Nirvana..Just a few years before. But Pixies laid blueprint for what became Nirvana. Never seen two bands help each other more unknowingly.
Nirvana, Pjam, AIC, SGarden, Toadies, STP, Tool, Bush, Pumpkins, NIN, Primus, Janes Addiction, ect will always be my favorite top bands. But I absolutely love underground 1980s, Lil late 70s punk and post punk. Depeche Mode, OMD, Pixies, Mats, HuskerDu, REM, Cure, New Order, Talking Heads, basically 80s alternative channel on Pandora. Early-mid 90s were by far best time period in music. Not mention hip hop or that great British wave of great bands in early-mid 90s.(Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Charlton UKs, Radiohead.) Girl bands in early-mid 90s! So many great ones... Plus the total birth of rave culture. Electronica/dance music was even at its best 1991--97.
@@jasonpeters9865 I honestly don't think you can say when the best music was being made. You can pick almost any year from 1950 til now and find GREAT bands and musicians. When I first heard Nirvana Teen Spirit, I thought it was a good song but I'd been listening to music JUST like it for almost 10 years. I'm only 5 years older than you, but I grew up in the Bay Area and went to see bands at least once a month mostly in small clubs.
Sometimes good music is popular, but often it's not... I'm guessing you really like that era of ,music because that is when you really started to listen to music.
Trust me, there is amazing music out there it's just hard to find sometimes...
@@nonebiz2132 it’s a generational and demographic thing...truth is, guitar based music made by three to five young white males playing instruments is a thing of the past....there aren’t’ enough white kids left for it to be big anymore and the ones that are left are into rap....there is great music I’m sure, today, but it’s not widespread, it’s not “the thing” anymore and no one in their forties and fifties and sixties 20 to 30 years from now will be talking about it....sucks, but true....rock was a demographic thing and the demos don’t support it anymore....
@@Hawkman-ns9jw I never associated "rock" with white males, Jimi, Janice, Heart, Body Count, Suicidal Tendencies, etc. all coming from a blues (Albert King, BB, Muddy Waters, etc) influence.
Truth is folk music is making a big comeback, and so rock will probably come back again in 10-20 years. It's all on cycles of when it's "popular". If your parents listen to rap, most likely kids will listen to something else :-)
LIKE IT OR NOT THIS BAND CHANGED THE WORLD!!! Thier song captured the angst and the feeling of young people at that time perfectly and became thier anthem just amazing. Still one of my favorite bands of ALL TIME, fucking shame we didnt get more music from them!!🤬🤬😭😭 I'm not sure another band has really been the universal band for younger white kids since Nirvana, Korn kinda did it for awhile but NIRVANA DID IT ON ANOTHER LEVEL!!!
Kurt burnt the brightest, and for too shorter a time, but his mark on the world is solid and forever..
Keith Richards tells it like it is, he is the only celeb who cites untreated mental illness as the real issue. It sounds harsh, but there is a hidden compassion in his assessment, obviously has some insight into the perils of fame combined with substance abuse.
+Edward van halen Same thing with Iggy saying that it's a very dangerous business for the practitioners. Great quotes. Luckily they're still here.
+Iggy M Iggy was right but Keith was high as a kite here and he was blabbering shit
I suspect that it is a prickly issue for Richards due to former band mate Brian Jones, who at age 27 went to an early grave and suffered from untreated substance abuse and mood swings.
That's the problem. People take HOW he is saying something & finding an issue. They don't listen to WHAT he is saying! He's absolutely correct. Cobain was, & remains to this day a great figure in music & art in general, but his personality was not one that could cope with being thrust into the role of "voice of a generation." It was not what he wanted, nor something he was able to handle without abusing drugs. It's a shame, but it is what it is. Criticizing Keith & Ron for coming off as mean or cold is missing the point of what they say.
+Edward van halen Nah. Richards is good...Woods the piece of shit here, clearly. I think Richards went off his own point...probably on account of damaged brain cells, when he said the plumber thing. He sort of went joke-y and became an asshole through his words.
6:38. How can you be sick of Led Zeppelin?!
After 25 years of thinking they wrote original material and listening to it over and over again.
I respect Led Zeppelin, but my god they're overrated.
OVERRATED!? Just cause something is old doesn't mean it sucks or is overrated if thats what you're saying
Zeppelin lover No, he never once said they were "old" and that was the reason why he said that they're overrated. He is simply stating his opinion, which is he thinks they are overrated. Just because you disagree with someone that doesn't approve of something that you like, doesn't necessarily mean your opinion is higher. It just means he probably liked music that wasn't so mainstream in the early 70's, like King Crimson, Yes or Curved Air.
Do not speak for me LOL. I never said anything about them being old. I'm talking more about the fans. The fans overrate the band. Not that the band is actual garbage.
Love how they didn’t even need to display Springsteen’s name
What about Pete townsend?
Bruce Springsteen commenting about the Seattle music that evolved from the 80s underground scene is like Prince Charles commenting about punk in 76-77.
+wovokanarchy as much as Robert Plant
+wovokanarchy at least grunge and Cobain "stole" the look that Springsteen had at "The River" era with flanel shirts and flappy jeans...
+Boko Kotar kurt didn't steal anything if you watch this documentary on grunge all of the bands said they wore flannel shirts and flappy jeans were started by the first punk rockers smart guy
+cmtmj2006 I know
True the boss never was revolutionary
Just came here because nirvana and robert plant(kurt cobain too)were on same video!
I agree with Ronnie at the end. I get that those grunge bands were doing what they loved by playing and writing music but if they didn't want to become so famous then why work so hard to get to the top? Why didn't they just play in little known bars or not write songs they knew would make the charts? They had a gaggle of rock bands preceding them that showed how difficult and stressful being a rockstar is, so they couldn't have pleaded ignorance on that.
You can't tell me that they consciously came into it thinking, "Well, every good band before us became famous because they were talented. We are also like them but it probably won't be as chaotic for us." Basically they wanted the money and fame but just not all the bad stuff that came with it. It doesn't work like that and they should have had the wisdom to deal with that.
does it ever occur to you that maybe some artists started making music simply because they wanted to make music, and make a living off of it? not everybody wants to be rich and famous, some people have a genuine love for the music and just want to contribute. and to be perfectly honest, i find it offensive that so many people are unable to see that as a possibility... i think ronnie's comments outed him as someone who only gave a shit about fame and fortune, which just makes me and many people like me respect him a great deal less. i love the man's body of work, but found his comments extremely disillusioning! like is that all he ever cared about??
"Well, every good band before us became famous because they were talented. We are also like them but it probably won't be as chaotic for us." of course i think bands (especially coming from the underground, as nirvana did) can feel that way! do you really think they thought they would hit beatles status fame? i certainly don't think so. i think they just did their thing and before they knew it, they were far bigger than they'd ever wanted.
Maybe they initially wanted the fame and money without knowing what kind of life that would be and how many leaches and scum it would bring out of the woodwork. I think that's what happened with Cobain. He wanted it, got it and it fucked him over. Nirvana had a ridiculous level of fame at the time though. That would fuck anyone up.
Jane's Addiction, Faith No More, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Lollapalooza had already happened before Nirvana hit. They were simply the first band to hit superstardom. The music scene had already changed dramatically by the time Nevermind was released.
u-said-what? Nirvana had an album before Nevermind, so they were around since the late 80s.. Nevermind opened the door to masses for alternative rock to be popular though
Well, respectfully to Robert at 6:25, I don't think anyone could ever get fed up with what you guys did in Led Zeppelin! That was just too awesome to ever forget. Rather, this was just an extension.
It wasn't even really Led and Floyd people were sick of. It was more of Whitesnake, Motley Crue, Cinderella, Def Leppard, etc. that people were tired of. Though, do like hearing Robert say that, just because he didn't seem jealous or like he was too great of a person for people to be tired of him. Nice to see musicians with humbleness and humanity rather than...well, Axl Rose lol
DrawingYouToob
I never really got that 80's stuff. I've always been a 70's guy even though I was just a kid during that time. Well, up to about the mid 70's when I was a teen! But, I really did like a lot of the 90's stuff like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Alice 'n Chain, etc. that was great stuff too!
DrawingYouToob Haha Axl is known for being a shitbag and I don't deny that but after reading Slash's book, Axl actually can be really humble at times too.
*****
uh, no they didn't!
***** You make some good points. Agreed that the drugs limited their potential but Robert Plants lyrics were above average, I mean he's no Bob Dylan but he was good. His stage persona was fairly average. But you must agree his voice was exceptional. The guitar noodling and drum solos were a little tedious but nonetheless good. And In through the out door had some decent songs, "Fool In the Rain" "In the evening" But was overall not as good as their previous album. They screwed up yes, but you make it sound bigger than it was.
I see Robert Plant I click.
Sheep
I'm so fucking tired of everybody associating Nirvana with Smells Like Teen Spirit or Nevermind. Go fucking listen to Bleach and even songs off of Insesticide or Sliver. Nirvana didn't have one album. I know the band members sure as fuck got tired of it back in the day.
bleach is a great album
+Gunnar Thomas I've listened to all of them, In Utero is up there for me.
Chill. You don't think that song changed the grunge scene forever? Yeah, they had a lot of other amazing songs, including Pennyroyal Tea and Aneurysm, but this song was one of the best ones to come out
+Keegan Buckley Most popular doesn't automatically mean best.Maybe it does to the media brainwashed people but not for everyone.I personally think it's one of their worse songs not to mention it and the entire Nevermind Album was over polished in the studio.The Band was very clear about the production of the Album = They hated it!!!!
+Gunnar Thomas In Utero was the magnum opus. Heavy, heavy emotion on that record.
blows my mind. not a lot of years and 3 albums yet one of the biggest impacts on music and popular culture. crazy to think if he never died. wish i could’ve been alive for that time
1987-1994
Something in the way was like 10 times better.
It's all about the Negative Creep for me ;)
Something in the way had the feels tho. For sure
nah man drain you
do re mi was really raw
I love pennyroyal tea
If Robert Plant says so , we all must agree with his statement ..
Kurt, Dave And Krist influenced and inspired music in my life. The reason I picked up a guitar was Kurt... Man, this dude always will be one of my favorites hands down.
It seems like Robert Plant's comment is taken way out of context, based on the comments here. I think that what he meant was that America got their first "mainstream" punk band. Punk was already commercial in England, with bands like the Sex Pistols, Sham 69 and Stiff Little Fingers charting very well over there. Yes, we had punk too, but it always stayed underground until Nirvana came along. I mean, yes, everyone waxes poetic about The Ramones, but let's be honest, they still weren't selling a bunch of records, and the Misfits practically sold more t-shirts than albums.
it pains me hear his music, and, if you listen carefully you'll hear his desperate cries for help, and sadly no one listened until he was GONE
But we did hear it, we heard someone saying our fears and shit
Damn that's deep
"Someone should have been taking care of the man... he was obviously a lunatic in the first place"
Awfully rich coming from a guy who in 1967 let the police raid his home while he was dropping acid, thinking that the men were dwarves. I'll be a Stones fan till the day I die...but Richards has some serious nerve commenting on the problems of another great but tortured artist. It's fair to say that as those words were coming out of his mouth, half of Columbia was up his nose. He only got clean of it 8 years ago...
He has probably done far worse damage to his body than Kurt Cobain and Brian Jones combined. God must be a huge Stones fan because Richard's longevity on Earth is nothing short of a miracle.
I've always liked Come As You Are better.
danill lake of fire a meat puppets cover is amazing
Funny, I got tired rather quickly. Never got tired of On a plain, for example, or Frances farmer... or Scentless apprentice
In Bloom!
Best of the box had some of the best self recordings ever!
In bloom
SLTS was one of the few songs in history that jumped out of the radio and grabbed me by the throat. Another was Hey Joe by Jimi Hendrix.
Pete Townshend is not only a rock and roll legend, great composer and guitarist, he's also a philosopher. You've got to respect this guy.
most of these "experts" don't know wtf they are talking about.....Pete Townshend FTW...
He and Neil Young are the original punks, if you don't count Johnny Cash...
Saying that shows you don't have the slightest clue what punk actually is.
Tim Moore Quit projecting, timmay.......
liljgoneman wow, good one. Reminds of 'I'm rubber and you are glue....'. You don't know the first thing about punk rock, stop pretending you are edgy, everyone knows just how vanilla you actually are.
***** What does famous have to do with anything? Does that mean Beiber and Taylor Swift know more about music than anyone who hasn't sold as many records? Ridiculous and lazy argument.
Real bands, real music. Hard to find these days.
If you were born in the 80's and grew up in the 90's, that opening riff to Smells Like Teen Spirit was the opening riff to your life in the 90's. Has anyone built a time machine yet?
If you were born in the sixties and grew up in the 70”s (for many music lovers) that’s first riff was like slo-motion simplified and never anywhere to blow your mind and you were looking around going, are you people serious? The musicianship is not very good but whatever... Shake your head, and wear your flannel.. Now Janes Addiction just a few years earlier! That shit would blow your head off! As would Rush, Sabbath, Zepp, even a couple songs from Chicago, Watch Terry Haths guitar work Chicago “25 or 6 to four” tanglewood video on here. Dude takes it to another level.. all good enjoy what you enjoy!
I was born in 1971 and it had a similar impact on me in my college dorm room.
@@latentsea If you were born in the 2000s and grew up in the 2000s you were/are guided by nothing.
wanna know the reason why Kurt shot himself in the face? this video is the reason why.
+em ell lol
Greg Thomas he didnt, he was killed... watch netflix and the detective courtney hired
That is a funny comment I must say
+Robert Lynn Shut the fuck up and go back to watching your Ancient Aliens garbage.
Kurt Cobain was naive as fuck.
Doesn’t matter if Nirvana were great musicians.. their impact on the industry is why they’re so legendary.. they opened the flood gates for alternative rock to the mainstream... thats why they are important
Cobain’s gift was melody. He could have mastered the guitar if he wanted to. He chose not to.
True..the band before cannot!!
Every time people ooze over Teen Spirit, I can't help but think how much Kurt would hate it lol.
Kurt told our story perfectly and poetically without ever articulating a coherent idea..
haha well put, but he was certainly more concise about his thoughts in interviews. He seemed to be a deep thinker which perhaps contributed to his anxiety. Sometimes I appreciate seemingly nonsensical lyrics written in an attempt to convey emotion without regard for weaving together ideas. It can be refreshing. This is coming from someone who adores some of the great stories found in Neil Young, and his Admirer, Eddie Vedder's lyrics. Hell, I can't forget Tom Petty or Tracy Chapman's "Fast Car".
Henry Rollins was kinda off when he said, that Nirvana tapped into a chunk of American White Youths. Kurt Cobain, and Nirvana's music crossed generes and races..
@CurrentLee Yeah but Kurt would be the first one to tell you their music isn't just about speaking to white americans. The anti-establishment message in some ways that Nirvana spoke about could transcend all races. Hell Rap is based off being anti-establishment
Haha, Henry Rollins talks a LOT.
He got a point but it's only part of the truth
juanga pingarrón - so what’s the rest of it?
Their audiences were almost entirely white.
I think the rolling stones don't even listen to music unless its the rolling stones
Not true. They are big music fans.
They listen to the beatles. They piggy backed on all their songs.
Agreed they're a bunch of narcissists
Rolling stones sucked anyway just like the Beatles sucked the who sucked classic rock sucks lol
@@13TASMidnights Nirvana is shit compared to The Beatles or the Stones. They are ants compared to them.
I was born in 1979, so I was 11/12 years old when Nevermind came out. It absolutely just blew everything apart at the time, as I was too young to be into the 80s college rock/punk /underground seen, I remember “Smells like Teen Spirit” just being the biggest song, when I was in 5th grade. However, I seem to remember listening to Pear Jam’s Ten w friends in grade school, before that song came out . Ten was released a month before Nevermind, and of course singles from it blew up, but I just remember being so into that album right before Nevermind came out. We had friends who had multiple older brothers, and definitely had access to it when Ten released, and if you were old enough and remotely liked rock music, you had Nevermind, or the “Smells like Teen Spirit “ cassette single right when it came out, or soon after. I remember having been into stuff like Motley Crue, Metallica, Guns n Roses, classic rock, etc before Nevermind came out, and Smells like teen Spirit changed everything. They played it at our 6th and 7th grade dances, it was just everywhere. I remember by 7th grade, I had gotten into Sonic Youth’s “Goo”, started taking guitar lessons, was still into Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, RATM, and slowly shifted towards discovering more “indie rock” , or other stuff like Pavement, Guided by Voices, Built to Spill, Pixies, Bikini Kill, was way more into Sonic Youth, by 9th grade, through my guitar teacher, then through indie magazines, zines, etc, which completely changed everything from 15- present day, as far as spending every weekend from 15-late 20s going into NYC to see bands w friends, or go to smaller record shops. I still play guitar daily, write/record, jam with a couple friends, and seek out new music all the time, but I would def attribute going to guitar lessons to Nirvana, who I think probably caused a massive amount of kids my age in the early 90s to pick up guitar (every one of my friends picked it up, although maybe 1 stayed w it besides me) and probably continued to get kids to pick up guitar, start bands, and seek out other lesser known music for years after that. Kurt always promoted the bands he loved by covering them (the vaselines, meat puppets..) or wearing their t-shirts (he was a huge reason why most people checked out Daniel Johnston) , was friends with Kim & Thurston of Sonic Youth, Kathleen Hannah of Bikini Kill, Buzz and Dale of Melvins. It was such an incredible time to be a pre teen, or teen, or just anyone who loved guitar driven rock /punk , whatever you wanna call it, type music. It definitely felt like how my parents described the British Invasion , w the Beatles and the Stones, when they were kids. I do truly miss those days, and i am grateful I grew up when I did. I’ll never in my life, forget the day Kurt was announced dead. My friends and I were walking to our friend’s house, bc it was his birthday. We got there and he was out on his porch crying. We asked what happened, and he said “Kurt died”. We all ran up into his bedroom, huddled around his small tv, and watched MTV for hours, as the news was nonstop, people were gathering in the park in Seattle, Courtney read his “suicide note”(I’m not saying he did or didn’t kill himself) I just will never forget that day. It reminds me of when people talk about John Lennon being murdered. The whole world felt like it stopped the day it was announced that his body was found. I like to imagine what Kurt would be doing if he were alive today. I think he’d probably still be playing guitar, probably solo, and be even more disappointed with the state of popular music, than he was in the 90s. Who knows? It was just a time I’m glad I experienced, and so completely grateful for how it influenced me, as far as being the main band/type of music that made me pick up guitar in the first place , opened up 1000s of bands/artists that I love today. I don’t know where I’d be without the music I love, or playing guitar, as playing and writing music is probably the only thing I’m relatively good at, and my one main form of expression and catharsis. I apologize for the length of this. It really brought back some great memories. Some sad ones too, but I miss that time of my life so badly.
He’d be fat, bald and boring and pale just like his group’s fan demographic....and people would be making fun of him and saying it’s time to hang it up and asking why he sucks so bad today....
how awesome is it that shit like this is available. UA-cam is genuinely one of the greatest creations of all time. a perfect time capsule
Yes, Nirvana was definitely not the only grunge band of the 90's, but they're the band that really pushed it all out. Nirvana, I believe, gave birth to grunge. And when Nirvana was forced to stop, grunge died.
Plant talks from 6:00 ...Thank me later...
That wasn’t even the right time stamp so no I will not thank you
8:14 I think Pete made all this shit on point very cleverly
I'm 37. Its 2019 and yet this band is still relatable and loved by many. Too bad music is no longer this good or meaningful. Heres to another 20 years of nirvana. Long live the 90s!
Not as relatable as GN'R
I don't know whats worse: Old timers who don't get it, or the kids who think they do.. Actually yeah,, the kids are worse.
John Hawthorn could not have said it better myself
Alister Dante OMG YES
Alister Dante lol. It definitely was. Try not going to any major department store and not find a nirvana tee.
I wonder if I actually get it or not
John Hawthorn I’m 15 and I love Nirvana
Kurt Cobain was amazing
Kyle Blanford he’s great but i feel he’s a bit overrated. They’re were so many more musicians that were better than him, like Chris Cornell, Layne Staley, Eddie Vedder, Shannon Hoone, etc
Indeed! I was 27, a life long rock fan, in '91. 'Nevermind'~ OMG, finally! Real. Raw. Rock. KC's NOT overrated. His genius & contribution to rock music: Priceless. Eternal. RIP♡KC
God
@@jaketieri5108 here we go again stfu
@@cyrosubod2317 what a pleasant message you’ve sent. It’s very good at showing that you are excellent at making a point in arguments
Kurt is awesome but would have been dead in five years anyway from heroin addiction. Nevertheless, I am forever grateful for Nirvana for exposing me to The Pixies, Slint, Fugazi, Sonic Youth and so many great underground bands and the Seattle scene including Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice In Chains. I'll never forget the first time I saw Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" video... it was like "Thank you for restoring my interest in music!"
Good point. At the time of Kurt's final decision, his addiction was so bad that music was far and away the last thing on his mind. He was so sick from drug use and at the same time conflicted and tortured about his art turning mainstream. His music being accepted by the masses killed him.
TimKaren Vermeulen Layne Staley is the epitome of an addiction that turned a former übertalent into a shell of the person he once was. His was the saddest story of all rockstars in my opinion. Just read about what he was like the last few weeks he was alive,
How did nirvana expose you to Slint??? I know Steve Albini worked on tweez but what's the other connection
Cobain would probably have loved Keith Richards answer
Keith Richards doesn't like to praise much :) he's always got that 'stones are the best' vibe about him
cause they are
Skynyrd disproved that fucking delusion at Knebworth in '76. So, fuck those has been limey cocksuckers. They've been a filler band since Some Girls, as relevant as an electric dog polisher and almost as necessary.
lol i dont agree
rOdLeR That's because you have shitty taste in music.....
lol yeah ok lol
I think u have shitty taste in Music
VH1 is such a joke...
It's MTV's retarded brother, basically.
They are like Buzzfeed of Tv. All they do is top 10s and top 100s.
tru
Granted, but regardless through what means, or how you learn of something, its that you were able to learn of it all is what's important.
I was flipping through channels as a 7th grader, and come across that Vh1's 100 Greatest Songs of the 90's countdown. I watched the whole thing from the 98th to the 1st. Learning about Smells Like Teen Spirit, Finally putting a name and a face to the song I'd heard on the radio here and there.
Since then I haven't found anything worth watching on Vh1. Still grateful for that countdown!
It planted a seed as a middle schooler, that would eventually sprout in high school. Nirvana was just what I needed. I've branched out, listened to their albums, -bout shit myself watching them live unplugged lol, searched every nook and cranny for the rarities. Kurt's home recordings. etc.. I've devoured and savored every piece if music I've found of them since then and will continue to do so! ...Probably the only good thing Vh1 had to offer.
Their late night "Nocturnal" music they played wasn't so bad. They played the Foo Fighters, "My Hero" music video, and that's how I was able to learn of them. :) still though, I get your point.
Last good shows MTV had were Headbanger's Ball, 120 Minutes, and Unplugged...aside from those VH1 was superior.
Lots of haters here, he was a good person . god always take good ones too early
MorbidManMusic He was murdered but ok kid.
Smells like Teen Spirit is the Bohemeian Rhapsody of Nirvana
Why do I think most of these celebs never listened to Nirvana back in the day?
Punk has become such a box that to be punk is to be a monolith. The exact opposite of what it is suppose to be.
Punk rock, musically speaking, is quite boring. it's too limiting in what an artist can do.
Polly live off The Muddy banks of the Wishkah is my favorite Nirvana tune !!!
Fuck yeh I love polly
That lady at 6:28 is completely right. Love that insight!!
Hey Henry rollins, soundgarden had a major label deal years before AIC & Nirvana
I would love to see a documentary on Heart-Shaped box or come as you are or something different
I’m really thinking about naming my future son Kurt or maybe his middle name..... should I?
Sure. Kurt is a beautiful name
its a beautiful name
Name his first name Cobain. And even if kids try to make fun of him it wont stick. Cause hes named after the most influential man of an entire generation... I think he'll be fine lol
Kurt is still dope tho
Yes yes and yes!!
So many great songs within the grunge time period, can’t name a favorite child.
Pretty cold from Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood at the end. Cobain was a heroine addict with a jealous heroine addict wife and got too famous too fast. A bit harsh just dismissing him as a lunatic and some guy having an identity crisis.
@sha broussard you think only insane people take their lives? Depression is not the same as insanity.
@sha broussard : Your non-sense comment just shows your utter ignorance about depression, suicide, madness and mental illness!
He's been around that shit his whole life since he's been a Stone. "Another dead rockstar? So what?" It was just not a big deal to him at this point. And i like how he says that the nobodies killing themselves everyday, the world dont give a shit about. Why would the world mourne on one single man they have nothing to do with, besides being a kiss-ass fan-boy?
I think Keith at least was mad at the attempts to romanticize his death. He does seem cold, but honestly Keith has seen a lot of people die. He's probably pissed at the attemps to make that "mean something".
They are just fucking jealous. That’s all it is. Just cannot handle the fact that nirvana were a band that destroyed all the other bands before them stones included.
''If you don't want to be famous, then why are you making records?'' Right there.
Because it's about the music not all the money and fame
So you'll do it for free and carry on with the day job? lol
***** If you say so.
+Joseph Okori
What makes you the absolute authority on the subject?
To some how make money with out fame? or they have some kinda compulsion to get their views on things and the world out to people, sorta like what I'm doing right now with this comment lol, sharing an opinion. No idea why , why bother flapping their mouths around using words? I'm unconscious as to why we do this. Who cares what the frig a few dudes who play instruments have to say? Pretty pointless... Guess we're all that bored.
Sooo must be for money, or they want to ramble about stupid crap like I'm doing right now. Can't avoid fame when making show bizz money , can't avoid fame when when sharing your thoughts to people in bulk , fame comes with it all .
Even that mouse head mask DJ techno guy is famous , and he hides behind a mouse head lololol :D blahblahblahblahblah
i think adam sandler could pull off a bruce springsteen bio movie
You know, it wasn't just the hit song "Teen Spirit" that made it so popular and attractive to fans, but the music video that so perfectly reflected the songs overall theme and syntax making a significant impact on individuals as well. Honestly, eventhough it's a terrible thing to say, I'm somewhat content with Kurt passing away. Their fore he never had the opportunity to sell out like most popular grunge bands from the 90's ended up doing in the end, because they ended up getting tunnel vision due to all the chaos from living that type of lifestyle, caring more about money, sex, and drugs than the actual music itself. Anyway R.I.P., Kurt Cobain, you are a music legend, and always will be an inspiration to us all. And I want to thank you for all the wonderful music you have introduced into our lives!♥️🎼🎶
and you shouldnt mention Nirvana without Black Flag and the Pixies.....The Pixies were imperative to the creation and style of Nirvana.
im here robert plant's opinion .
7:52 I like Iggy Pop about the dangerous business this is. There are different ways stars get out...
Um, hey Mr. Plant...
"America finally got your own Punk."
Really?
The Ramones and the New York Dolls are STILL waiting for a "THANK YOU!" from the entirety of the British Punk movement for, ya know, CREATING THE GENRE.