🛩️ S800 - Long Range Build (2020 Edition)
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- A build overview of my new long range capable S800 flying wing.
Links to the Thingiverse files:
Nose block/dual camera mount: www.thingiverse.com/thing:461...
ESC cover: www.thingiverse.com/thing:464...
Flight controller mount: www.thingiverse.com/thing:464...
Motor mount: www.thingiverse.com/thing:464...
VTX mount: www.thingiverse.com/thing:464...
RX mount: www.thingiverse.com/thing:464...
Hardware bay covers: www.thingiverse.com/thing:464... - Наука та технологія
Just finished my S800 today. Best quality video like always!
Not only do I really enjoy your videos but also learn a lot. Thanks for taking the time and sharing.
Awesome build! Love how it can pull verticals like that!
I enjoyed watching your video! Very informative and interesting.
I've always wanted to add a flying wing to my collection and this looks like an ideal, reasonably priced, fun build. 👍😎
Very nice work. Next level build, so clean. Impressive to say the least. Love the camera mount. Thanks for posting.
Great video! Thank you very much for taking the time and effort to share this build as well as the 3d print files.
No problem man :)
great video, great build! Thanks a lot! I just ordered a S800 V2 and your info and tips are very usefull for me.
Love that you used two cameras. I find it odd more people dont pair a great FPV cam and ignore the split live feed, and just use them for HD recording.
Love the video!! Keep up the great fun! And let's keep this hobby alive!!
You have a very similar build style as me! A lot of the parts you used were on my list for my future builds. This includes the flight controller, the VTX, the HD camera and the reciever.
Loking forwards to more of your buils!
I really enjoy watching your videos more as I'm getting started in RC. I will be doing Ardupilot builds, so it is great to see the parts you use, build videos, and your amazing wiring diagrams. I appreciate the effort you put in, the attention to detail, and how neat and organized everything is. Great work! 🇨🇦
Solid video as always I appreciate all you post thank you friend
Awesome video man, I didn't even realize that the video was 10min long!
very nice, thoughtful and tidy build. Up to 30 mins flight time is impressive - nice work!
Cheers man! :)
Your build videos are some of the best!
Thanks! :)
Gold mate, just pure gold....
And suddenly... you make me feel the need of a second s800 hahaha
Hi, great video, i fly fpv since 2008 and this video is one of all most simple and orientative, congratulations and keep flying
Thank you. I aim to make my videos straight forward. Other youtuber's talk to much lol
:16 ha, that is classic. Great content as usual!
this is my inspiration for my first wing build
Very nice clean build!
I told someone today that I will never buy a small wing because I got into this hobby for waypoint long range FPV flights, also I want to 3d print all my frames. I have to say this beautiful build is making me reconsider.
Great video, thanks for sharing w us!
Great video, thanks for explain and presentations. Appreciate it 👍
this is the best wing tutorial on the web
Excellent job, thank you! Inspirational!
Definitely a best bang for buck aircraft
Absolutely. Can't go wrong with a S800
Thank you pleses keep the info flowing I look foeward to all your content 100 % solid good stuff
Tnx for files! Helps me a lot.
Awesome video,salute
That's made me look at that model again! Those 3d prints do wonders for the tidy es and look of it, I don't like the go pro size/price situation either, I'm going lookonlinesee what's about! Lol!
GORGEOUS!
Perfect video!
Great build!
classy video! loved it
Nice job!
Freeking awesome
👍🏻
The small carbon fiber verticals spaced evenly along the wings leading edge are call “wing rakes” while the large, blended foam end cord verticals are called the “vortex generators,” though they both do, technically generate vortices.
Wingtip vortex generators generally increase lift, reduce drag (both just under 20%) and also (more relevantly for big heavies) reduce the required separation distance/duration.
Wing Rakes also increase lift, reduce drag but are more for improving stability, especially on the edge of stall and aiding recovery from stalling.
Pardon, this very minor little niggle that I only mention, as I did my thesis on this topic for Fluid Mechanics.
Soviets installed a pair (on each wing) roughly mid-wing and running the full cord on their MIG-17s in the mid 1950s.
R. C. Christian
That's very interesting and good to know. On the S800 they are usually referred to as vortex generators, and are typically used to lower the stall speed, but they do also have the added benefit of improving flight stability. Whatever they are actually called, they're worth installing :)
Great build and video. You might consider a BetaFPV SMO 4K, since it only weighs 40g and has excellent stabilisation.
Great and very inspiring videos, many thanks.
Since your "2018 real time drone tracking map vid" I installed CRSF , GPS , BF on 6 of my quads, Andropilot on 3 "old smartdevice". It works great and I love it.
Save me a lot of potentially losted quads, hours of search in high grass, trees....
, a lot of stress ...
I am starting building a wing, for the fun of flying and more range to travel.
I would be very interested if you can share your hex files and config/setup in Inav I guess ? (by the way which version did you install on that new S800 ?).
Happy flying and looking forward to enjoy your great coming vid ...
Yeah happy to send you the inav dump file for the s800. Send me your email address and I'll send it over 😊
could you extend the prop shaft to pull it away form the body? im not sure what that would do the the characteristics.
Hi Giz. Excelent video. Where can i find the programable led lights? Cheers.
Beautiful build, I've got a Sonic model ar900 but it's rough...what should I buy instead? Is at pro worth the money?
Very helpful, thank you
the heat sink should be oriented 90deg from where you have them. that looks like it will halve the drag from the sink by turning the tines into fins instead of blocks.
You're right. I noticed this after I installed it
Looks good
Hey man, awesome video. Had done pretty much the same build. How much degrees is the the reflex on the elevons?
Very clean build👍 Which stabalization function are you using in DaVinci Resolve? Even with a rollstabilization Servogimbal my footage wasn‘t that smooth in DaVinci.
Mine is allmost the same! But have a F80 pro on 20mm standoffs with a 7” prop and a 63A ESC. The thing is ridiculous powerfull! 😂💪🏼 Nice build man! Have fun with it!
A 63a esc? I've never heard of a 63a one 😂 If yours is like mine though then I can appreciate how much power it has. Mine actually scares me on launch. It's hard to keep hold of when you throttle up 😂
@@gizfpv The esc is a Airbot Wraith32 Metal V2 66A, I thought 62, but it's even 66Amp. The launch is scary and fast indeed! I always use auto launch and the throttle goes from 0 to 80% (or... from peaceful to terror😂) after the throw and it’s gone! 💪🏼
Here is a video of my s800, including launch and at the end I show the wing, (if you find it interesting)...
ua-cam.com/video/nATWNs5DjLY/v-deo.html
And recently I updated my elevons to 3d printed ones. The stock foamies were not up to the task above 150km/h. It’s so locked in now! Even at lower speeds I feel a big difference!
@@gizfpv I've stuffed a tekko32 f3 metal 65a esc into a ar 600 with a 2420kv rcinpower wasp major motor, pulls 90ish amps at full throttle on 6s, need to try some APC speed props to get to the 300+ km/h club since the fastest props I've got seem to be capping me around 230-240 km/h in flat level flight. Oh, and yeah, it 100% rips itself out of my hand on launch, just have to throw the thing or risk getting bitten by one of the most powerful 5" motors on the market.
Great video! On the fence between this wing and the atomrc-dolphin. Liked and sub'd 🤙
Very nice!!! I just bought one and will follow your setup. Do you have the STL files for the parts you used? Thanks a lot
The files are now in the video description :)
Great video. I would love to have one to build, but I don't have a printer . Keep up the excellent work 👏 👍 👌
Can you name me the Vtx of highest power that have good antannas can be used in a night eagle 2 pro ( a night vision camera )?.
Great video ❤️
Thank you for the info
Hi Giz , very nice project, where can i find vortex generators (3d print file or link to buy )?
Good drone.
I put some standoffs on mine to get the motor out from the wing, it quiets it down a lot.
Best build channel, Sub
hey Giz ive had my s800 a while now but have recently killed my f80 on it so i have ordered the t motor spec race motor. was thinking of running this 4s with a 6x4.5 prop but after watching this i may now just use a 7x4 and 3s do you think that the extra weight of this motor would be n issue. thanks
Ooh is that the AT2310 motor? If so, yeah that's quite a big and heavy motor. You might struggle to hit CG with that. Maybe if you're lucky and have a lot of lead you might be able to pull it off
@@gizfpv I've removed the wood from behind the motor mount so it's just the carbon fibre plate and have glued and that to the foam. I did leave the centre piece in for alignment and extra strength. So hopefully the weight of the wood and the fact it's forward maybe 3 mm and I'll just whack a 4s up the front. I'll let u know how it goes. Love all your builds awesome man 👊👊
Dear sir
Most of the iNav youtubers don't speak about hight five test, be for put the wing on the air!
When testing whether the moving surfaces are in the right direction, which in my case are, when I put the steek in full right, it just moves a few millimeters up and so does it when I do it to the left. Is it normal for the scroll to moving surfaces to be so small, before auto trim and auto tune.
Regards
Vítor Lalanda
Hi, yes this is normal. In stabilized modes, servo output is proportional to throttle. On the bench you'll see minimal servo movement, but in flight there will be much more. If you want to properly test your servos, put the aircraft in manual mode first
Motor stand off may help with noise and increase power
Yes that's very true. But would also upset the CG. Could compensate by printing a heavier camera mount for the nose, but tbh I'm not too bothered about the noise 😊
Great build Video and flight Giz love the choice of cameras and would you have the STL files for this build
Take Care Giz
The files are now in the video description :)
@@gizfpv thanks Giz Have a great day
How far does the crossfire antenna stick out on the underside of the wing? Doesn't it get damaged from repeated bending on landings and during transport? Cool build btw. I never really considered the S800, but is is a lot cheaper than the AR Wing.
It sticks out the bottom a few centimetres, and does get a little bent from repeated landings. But it doesn't get damaged and doesn't noticeably effect performance. Can easily be bent back anyway 😊
It looks an awful lot like the Parrot Disco. Where can one get the body
Nice work, great build. One question, 2:16 why not rotate the heat sink 90 degrees to offer a little less resistance?
I noticed this after I installed it, and you're right, rotating it 90 degrees would have been slightly better for aerodynamics
What is your best PID for this wing?
What was the total cost in your mind for the total end build, as well as labor hours?
Great vid. Roughly how much would it cost to build?
@@jt23502 S800 is the model of the wing, that build is much less than 800 dollars
Great video!!! name motor and kv please, thanks!
That is awesomeeeee
Good day to you.
Very interesting and informative video, excellent work !!!
I've tried searching for T-Motor F60 Pro IV V2 2207 1950KV 3s 7" prop thrust but cant seem to find thrust results for that setup, so I'd rather write a question to you instead as you already have the setup, have you tried a thrust test with your current setup shown in this video? If yes, may I know what is your max thrust ?
No I haven't been able to find any thrust data either. And unfortunately no I haven't done a thrust test as don't own the hardware to do it. All I can say though is it clearly produces a lot of thrust :D
@@gizfpv Thanks for your reply, much appreciated ! I see the thrust test data for 4s is available and with a three blade propeller, but none for your type of 3s two blade prop setup. I wish i knew your thrust because I'm torn up between purchasing your type of motor and another type that uses a 4s as well and produces around 1600g of thrust.
@@gizfpv Hello and good day to you once again Giz FPV
Apologies for troubling you once again.
I'm now following your video and rebuilding my s800 because I have been flying an overweight s800 for quite a while now. I've used heavier components and with the result, my flight times were just 5 min at cruising on a 4s 1550mah lipo, but now I'm changing those components and that will shave some grams off the current weight, and following this video as a guide.
I find it hard to know how a motor with perform with certain props that are not listed in their thrust tests.
1. How did you know about using the T-Motor F60 Pro IV 1950kv and matching it with a 7" prop ?
2. Can I use the T-Motor F60 Pro IV V2 1950kv with a 7050 prop instead on my s800 ?
nice build! did you make 3d printed mounts for the LED strips or is that just thick double sided tape?
All prints completed could i bother u for the bay covers stl thanks again friend
Very sorry, I forgot to add them to thingiverse! I've just uploaded them now, the link is now in the video description
Giz what is a good replacement for E6000 glue to hold the s800 together? Thanks
Uhu Por. That's what I use on all my builds
@@gizfpv thx dude
How did you route the led wires into the cabin also found and printed the nose cam holder but can not find other stl files thank you .
The LED wires go through the ESC compartment and then up to the FC. I've just uploaded all the other STL files now (see video description)
@@gizfpv I thank you for responding so fast keep the info flowing love the knowledge you share!!!
What's your opinion on the AR Wing Pro? I've heard some good things about that wing.
Well I liked the look of it so ordered one, but Banggood twice failed to send it so in the end ended up cancelling the order. I may still get one one day. My friend has one although he hasn't flown it yet
What software do you use to make your wiring diagrams?
Wish I had seen this before my ar 900 pro build.
I really appreciate your step by step Videos and this is an addition to those videos.
I bought a S800 as well over a year ago, but never got the CG right, it is not that easy as i tought like a normal plane with fuselage.
The CG is so narrow every 0.001mm afects the CG quickly.
How did you get the CG right??
I never aimed to get a perfect CG. I always make my wings a little bit nose heavy on purpose. They tend to fly better when a little nose heavy
@@gizfpv ok, and do balance it on a CG-scale?
@@Titanfinger use the CG mark that's shown in the manual. Then make the wing slightly nose heavy. Not loads, just a little bit. It'll fly great 😊
Hi, what filament did you use?
Can You feel the difference between standard vtx and receiver placement vs your's placed towards center of the plane? One is sacrificing separation distance between vtx and receiver and other components so i'm wonder is it worth? Great video and content - thanks!
The distance between the vtx and Rx is still enough to prevent any noticeable interference. On some of my other aircraft the vtx and Rx are even closer together but it's never caused me a issue. The fact the frequencies are so far apart helps
@@gizfpv thx!
Can someone explain why moving mass towards the centerline improves roll stability? I would have thought the opposite would be true
Hold a heavy-ish object in your hand. Shake it with your arm extended and again close to your body. You can feel the very difference. Your arm/wing is basically a lever acting against the body. The longer the lever the more force exerted.
all it does is changes moment of inertia. Doesn't affect stability other than making it more responsive to roll inputs
Great build. Have you balanced the weight of the wings?
Yes, I mention this in the video. CG is balance on both the pitch and roll axis for maximum stability 😊
hey Giz, great video as always! S800 vs Caipi2 - what do you think? Can the S800 "point" against C2? In what areas in your opinion?
...and do you got a link to the vortex generators and maybe even the carbon stuff? is it real or just "printed"?
Well it depends what you want to. The Capi is excellent for proper long range (15-20km) but is a bit tricky to launch and is harder to store and transport. The S800 on the otherhand has a range of about 10km but is really easy to launch, store and transport, and is also much cheaper. Ultimately they are both great aircraft
Giz FPV thanks. I already own a perfectly flying c2.. but still fell in love with the s800 after your video. But then i saw the hobbyking shipping costs. :(
I want to start witha FPV DJI wing plane, but no Idea where to start and to learn what parts to buy ect ect ? Any tips ?:)
The HeeWing F-01 is a wing that's designed for DJI fpv, and it just so happens I have a video showing how to build one 😋 I used analogue fpv on mine, but would be easy to switch out the analogue cam/vtx for the DJI air unit instead. The HeeWing comes with the mounts for the air unit
@@gizfpv thx for your super fast reaction !
The video is great but I have a question. Instead of using a single motor, can we use two motors because they will cancel out torque generated by each one? As the plane slightly tilt when the throttle is increased in the single motor. Using two motors greatly decreases the flight time or not?
Yup you can absolutely use 2 motors. People have done it before. Not only does a dual motor setup counteract torque roll, it also allows you have yaw control via differential thrust :)
@@gizfpv and what about the flight time, is it reduced to half? Can you make video of a wing plane with two motors?
I agree with your assesment, I love this plane. Is not the greatest but it flies well and the v2 is almost indestructible. I plan to buy Nano Goblin. Do you still fly yours?
Yup, still got my nano goblin. I don't fly it very often, but it's such a good wing so will never get rid of it :)
Can you Build For Mapping?
I want to buy one fully built and ready.
Is your weight measurement accurate, or what did you do to achieve that? 360 g with the printed canopy is really lightweight. Mine has similar components (and an even smaller motor) and weighs 390 g without the additional nose weight..
Tbh, possibly not. I discovered last week that my scales had become faulty. I don't know how long they've been like that. Have brought some new scales now though so will re-weigh the s800 and see what it says
That would be nice! I am trying to cut the weight a bit down, because the 2205 motor I am currently using seems to be a bit underpowered for that mass.. Paired with the relatively high stall speed every sharp turn is a bit scary
@@PartiRecords Just weighed it now on my new scales (that are calibrated) and turns out my S800 actually weighs 457g. So yeah, my old scales were very wrong and unfortunately I didn't notice. The thrust to weight ratio on mine seems great though, even if it is a little heavier than I first thought, it still has plenty of power 😊
@@gizfpv Okay, thank you for clearing that up! The weight of mine is not that bad at all then.. and I already changed out the motor to a 2207.
Moving the vtx and rx to the center is also a great idea, I might add that too. Anyway nice video and thanks for your reply!
What heat sink did you us I need to get 2
I brought these: www.amazon.co.uk/sourcingmap-Aluminum-25mmx25mmx10mm-Semiconductor-Integrated/dp/B07DHBMSDT/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=25mm+heatsink&qid=1605178199&sr=8-13
I have this wing and I have just given up on it. It's so unstable and wobbles alot. I prefer the AR 600 that bad boy can punch through any wind. The S800 is horrible and almost unflyable in a high wind situation. My friend installed large wing Fences near the center and it does make it alot more stable but I'm still not happy with this wing.😔😔😔
I Jouse Razor blades to cut Foam and Glue Marks. This thin Razor Blades are wert flexible. And I Hold the blades on the side and Press the Ends together to get an light "U"- Shape. And I wigle and tilte the blade side to side to make an "saw"- Motion. It helps Alot to get clean Cuts. I alwase Youse this Method to cut the cluster Foam Bumps Mold Marks Off. And make this more flat. And I youse this Methid Mainly to Put Decals over it.
Did you order yours globally from hobbyking? if so, how long did it take to reach the U.K? Cheers
I ordered mine from the UK warehouse. Can't remember specifically but think it took less than a week to arrive
@@gizfpv Ah, i just went to get one for the sake of it, and its only available Globally, neither E.U or U.K..😔
What flexy LEDs did you use :p
They were strips that I salvaged from my Night Radian glider after it crashed. They're fairly generic strips though, can probably get something very similar from ebay
Have you tried AR wing pro? What do you think about those?
I haven't. I had one ordered but twice Banggood failed to send it and put it on backorder instead, so I gave up and cancelled the order 😑
@@gizfpv sadly :( btw great content. Like the way you make your video. Keep it up :)
Love your video and would like to ask you what would you charge for all the plastic parts you made if I ask you to make them for me as a kit.
The files to 3d print all the plastic parts are listed in the video description and are free to download. Rather than have me print and ship the parts to you, it would almost definitely be cheaper to either print the parts yourself, or find a local guy who has a printer that can do them for you :)
@@gizfpv thank you
Can you make a fpv drone sir with flir camera
Would love too, but FLIR camera's are so expensive 😩
what size is the prop 7x ? thanks
APC 7X4