How come I have learned more with a Mikey YT video than a entire Discovery series starring the man himself? Boy they missed the mark, but I'm super happy to see you all doing well and the warbirds still working. Super grateful to learn more about our country and our aerospace history at the same time!
I totally agree on that, I guess that is why TV just misses the mark these days. They are like trying to land 747s on short gravel strips with obvious results :D
My father flew Hercs in both the military and commercially. His last duty station was in Angola, where the airline had a contract to service the mines. My parents lived in Utah and once a month Dad would make the commute to Angola. Just before he was to retire, the Angolan government threatened to nationalize the airline. So, Dad's last mission for the airline was to organize the rest of the pilots and mechanics to load up as many spare parts as the planes could carry and fly out all the planes under the radar in the dead of night. You can nationalize a steel mill or an oil field. It's harder to do with an airline.
@@280StJohnsPl Despite my admiration of the Herc, as a former AeroMed, the C9 Nightingale will always be #1 in my heart. I swear, those C9 pilot's touch downs were as soft as thistledown no matter the weather.
Yeah, someone needs to spend some time with Joe and extract all the stories he wants to tell, before he can't tell them anymore. Whether it comes out as a book, or a UA-cam or podcast series, or whatever, doesn't matter. But it'd be a shame if it was all lost.
I think mikey has been listening to joe and looks like he pays attention hopfully he will. I don't think Joe's a horn blower so we may have to wait for publishing. Joe reminds me of my first boss he had a fleet of tugs and a few bigger fish boats and equipment from Sooke to Masset great guy. Men of few words when they speak pays to listen.
Rest in peace Captain Ian H. McBeth, 44, from Montana, Officer Paul Hudson, 42 from Arizona, and Flight Engineer Rick A. DeMorgan Jr.,43, from Florida. Crew of Coulson tanker 134. Lost them this year fighting the Australian wild fires.
That seems completely ridiculous, in an age where we’re trying to conserve our natural resources - not making full use of perfectly serviceable aircraft.
The more you hear of things like this the more I come to the opinion that "green " policies are basically meaningless, its only green if the government and corporations can profit by it, and all the time the government acknowledge the environmental organizations they will fall into line because they to make out of it, the whole system is rotten and corrupt.
@@davidhoffman1278 They are proven to work & operate in 3rd world country no problem....... just give them life service over hall - cheaper than a brand new version. Thinks B1 & F111........ High polluting engines are the least of a a operators worries - time to get off your liberal green snow flake mindset & get with real world ! Everything is possible if you upgrade or life extension service.
@@davidhoffman1278 I'll make my point again they'll either bought for use in a 3rd world use (full service) or for parts to make few good ones in private hands..... just like DC3's in south America with no time hours being counted & providing good service until replaced. They'll be put into service again either way so watch this space if need arises. Modern aircraft ain't up to the job with small a private operator cost wise + Canada is total lost cause since the liberals have taken over... green this & that - it doesn't work.
Brings back memories, the "Old Fella's' comments about mining and the NEP/National Energy Program are bang on. I was in Resolute Bay when PWA was flying Hercs, shuttling stuff hither and tither 24/7. Helped load a D7 onto a Herc and that's when I realized what a huge magnificent craft it was. Also ran the loader installing an engine on a DC3. Later I was in Tuktoyaktuk at both Dome Petroleum and Esso bases. I was in the Dome shop listening to CBC North [that's all the communication we had] when the NEP was announced by the government of the day, Justin's dad. I knew as I listened to that broadcast the energy boom was over. Threw north eastern BC, Alberta and other places into a depression for 1 to 2 decades. I really learned to dislike Liberal, Central Canada Politicians. An almost forgotten piece of Canadian history.
Bottom line: Change the laws. The C-130 would be very well suited for such a role flying freight (again) in Canada. Can land a C-130 on an aircraft carrier or Antarctica. The C-130 can also do heavy lifting that other platforms simply can't do. Manufactures want you to buy their latest product (see the LM-100J). Was a reason they chopped up all the C-141's up after retirement :-P.
A report I read is that the C-130s are at the end of their expected life do to many takeoff and landings. They need to be replaced by newer C-130s. The type of plane is not obsolete, it is the planes have been abused and need scraped.
One of Mikey's videos was suggested by UA-cam and....I was hooked and subscribed. When I was stationed at Takhli and Ubon Thailand during the war I spent many hours flying all over the country in C-130s making the daily shuttle run from base to base, carrying troops and supplies. For this lifelong airplane nut it was like heaven. Thanks for the excellent presentations Mikey. Wright Flyer, USAF (1968-1972).
Each, and every time I cast eyes upon those Commandos, I just can't get over what fine looking aircraft they are; their designers had to have been avid Buck Rogers fans.
Thank you for answering these type of questions. It's so neat to get the insiders view of the industry. Keep involving your dad, he really adds great content to your episodes. Again, my favorite UA-cam channel!
I can’t let this go. After reading all the comments there are some hard headed people who either didn’t watch the video or didn’t pay attention. There are tons of C-130’s in the boneyards around the world. Yes obviously that is known. However as Mikey explained you can’t just register a military airplane for civilian use as revenue. (Yes there are certain exceptions, but for the general cargo operator military aircraft is NOT an option) There are wayyy too many people commenting on here about C-130’s/L100’s that obviously have no clue what they are talking about. Stop saying stuff if you really aren’t sure of what you are saying. This was a well explained video!! Good job. Too bad most people didn’t really comprehend what you were saying.
What he was saying was this is another case of the Canadian government stifling competition within its borders. They do the same in nearly every industry up to and including entertainment. They want you to buy the $20,000,000 Canadian made airplane.
@Robert W. Anderson. Then why does the same apply to the US? Instead of bashing governments, have you ever thought it might just be manufacturers? How about Lockheed wanting the aging aircraft parked so THEY can make 70-90 mil on selling a new J model? Or Boeing not wanting to be responsible for the war birds they inherited? It takes a lot of paperwork, resources, and manpower on the manufacturers side of the house to keep aging aircraft in the sky. Just some food for thought.
@Pete McFadyen I hate to be that guy that is spewing useless or false information. I can not tell you for a fact why it is hard to register military aircraft for civilian use. I will tell you what I think some of the logic is. I may be dead wrong and way off, but this is what I think. In the eyes of the FAA, the Feds are there to protect the people on the ground. The military uses some of their aircraft hard and heavy and sometimes they use them for what the manufacturer never intended. As a buyer I would not know the full history of the aircraft and neither will the feds. So it is hard for the feds to protect people on the ground if they certify an aircraft that may or may not be safe in the sky. The manufacturers may not be willing to help in that they would rather sell new airplanes than help certify an old one. Again the manufacturers are putting their name on the line if they do not know the full history of the aircraft. As far as Part 121 goes, everything has to be traced or be traceable. Military does not work like that. So if I bought a military aircraft I would not have the records I need to trace back where parts came from and therefor can not be certified under part 121. Let’s think this way for a second. If it were easy to certify military aircraft for civilian use what’s stopping some weirdo from flying a used fighter jet around? I do believe there are a lot of reasons. Just my two cents. Take it for what you want.
As a C-130 and L-382 pilot, I can tell you there are differences in the two aircraft. They both went down the same assembly line, and as they were built, the L-382 had additional things added to make it compliant with FAA Part 25, Certification of Transport Category Aircraft. A military C-130 does not meet Part 25 standards. It could be converted, but to my knowledge no one has done the work to get a STC to convert C-130s to L-382s. That would require a lot of man hours just to be certified to do that. As an example, some of the Saudi Hercules are not C-130s, but L-382s. Some commercially operated L-382s currently flying started as state owned aircraft around the world, and are eventually sold on the market to commercial operators of transport category aircraft.
It was a C-130 A model, that lost both wings while fighting fires in Northern California, and it is my understanding the A model has more than it's share of woes. Best wishes, Mikey. I'm happy to see you again.
@Manny Puerta: What do you mean by "bad wings." What is a "civilian G model?" Say what you will about the C-130A, that tanker crew died because of negligent operation of the aircraft which appears to be all too common in that business.
Dale Comer The original Herc was only built for 5,000 hrs of airframe time. It was essentially a throwaway airplane. Success of the aircraft then kicked in and the design evolved. Still being manufactured since the late 50’s. Some of our TIA/Transamerica aircraft, all civilian, double-stretch G models, had over 60,000 hours in the 80’s. We were on our third generation wing, which included a new center wing box section. Tanker Hercs, if I am not mistaken, are all ex-military, single-stretch, E models (with a better wing). The A models should stay parked. You can only maintain a part with a design limited lifetime so much, then whatever you do you’re on borrowed time.
@Manny Puerta-- The tanker crews fly on borrowed time. There will be no more USAF C-130 released for air tanker service because of the poor record of the mom and pop tanker operators. As Mikey points out ad nauseum there are no L-382G for sale and if there were I'd be very surprised if old Joe could swing a deal for it.
Mikey don't want to take anything away from you, but you've got one of the most entertaining and coolest dad's I've ever had the fortune of listening to. I really hope he writes his memoirs when he retires. May you, your family and your company last forever.
Boy I do miss the regular series episodes, but frankly, Mickey, these are great! Keep them coming. You folks represent the real world of industrial aviation. How things work in the trenches. I've been involved in aviation for over 40 years and I still learn a lot from your videos. And its especially cool that I "know" the faces you present in the videos as if they were close friends. Best of luck to you folks and keep em flying!
@@065Tim Which reminds me of an old song with the line "The sergeant was the last to jump, the first to hit the ground". I was artillery, Hercs took me into Shilo and Wainwright a few times. Respect for Airborne!
Wow the Herc at 1:01 64-0498 is a bird I flew on while stationed at Poep AFB. back in the mid. 80's.. At 1:04 the first bird on the right is 62-1810 that we received from a fire fighting unit back around 1986 and the inside was covered in red fire fight agent. I was assigned to it as the DCC (Dedicated Crew Chief) when our squadron acquired it. Put in many hours/days/months getting her up to our standards and many more going TDY with her...... Crazy seeing her again... Thank you and love your show..
It’s funny, I liked ice pilots and they introduced the public to Buffalo air, but I really like Mikey’s channel a lot more than the reality tv format. Consistently great stuff.
This video definitely made me smile! I live close to the Ravenna arsenal in Ohio and every monday night, there'll be at least one C-130 in the area doing VOR approaches AT TREETOP LEVEL! It's definitely a sight to behold (especially when it makes my house shake)! Thanks for the informative video mikey! I definitely enjoyed it!
I live and work near Stratton ANG Base where the 109th is based, the group that flies the ski-equipped Hercs (the only ones still flying them) to Antarctica. See them flying over several times a month.
Big hello from Australia, I have much respect for you guys, And your dad reminds me of people i once knew hard as a rock but had time for those who bothered to listen. Your dad seems more chilled than when the cameras were rolling years ago.
Just found this video today 28/9/21 so happy to see the cargo electras still being loved by buffalo. I live in coventry in the uk and loved to see them on cargo flights. I miss these a lot. Id love to come to canada one day and show my sons these aircraft flying, i wax lyrical about them all the time to my boys. I think i bore them! One day guys, just keep them flying eh
A small fun fact about 2 of the electras you guys have: my flight instructor I started flying with used to operate them for Amerer Air in Austria and he always used to tell me stories about them and I just love that I actually get so see them thriving with you guys!!
That was a nice video Mikey. The L-100 was Dad's plane and the best years of his PWA career. I sponsored the last Herc Rats reunion to help get that team together as Dad had just passed and those that hold the memories are leaving us at too fast of a rate. The stories are amazing, getting to see a small part was amazing, and the fact that the L-100 fleet did amazing things worldwide and made such a name for PWA and the Herc Rats is a story that needs to be kept alive. I'm hoping to convince Lockheed to show an L-100J at this year's Airshow...fingers crossed. I'll just be sad Dad isn't there to see it. Oh, and yes, if the far north opens up...$77M USD isn't bad for a kick ass certified big rig with wings...
Yep I work for Lynden and we now have 14 Hercules, I'm a truck driver for Lynden but the reason I came to work here was that my father was a C130 squadron commander (of the A model) in Vietnam and Okinawa ,1964-68 Turkey 1968 as well as Vandenberg AFB CA 69-70 and Scott AFB Illinois 1970-71
I flew “A’s” in Africa in the late 80’s, then TransAfrik around Africa in the late 90’s to 2001. TransAfrik had quite a few L-382’s and L-100-20’s, and bought several more when SouthernAirTransport went out of business. In the ensuing few years after 1996, several were crashed or shot down in various enterprises, so that now they appear out of the Herk business.
I use to work at MSP. I remember we had a Zantop hanger there.Use to have a daily run to Detroit if I remember right. Once in awhile a Convair 640 would show up.Did you not get some Electra's from Hawaiian airlines??
Yeah ! Those were the days ! When working for airlines was fun! When owners cared about the stuff. Also Mr.Zantop had a Republic Seabee! Who owns a Seabee must be a good guy! Regards from Alaska
Many people don't realize that when the US military sends surplus aircraft to the boneyard, only the woerst, hughest maintenance examples go to Davis-Montham (the USAF boneyard). The best flying ones normally get "snapped up" by allied air forces or folks like Coulson who can use them in the Restricted category (essentially non-commercial use only). Taking an A model Herk from the boneyard to air wirthy would easuly run $20 to $30 million depending on the status of the wing box and other very high cost time change items. People also are not considering Buffalo's "bread and butter" loads. To substitue a Herk on one of the C-46's daily grocery runs would be like running a $120k custom 18-wheeler Kenworth on a trip that could be done by a Ford dually pickup. Fuel mileage is NOT the Herk's forte'. That's why it can do tricky things like land and take off from aircraft carriers, they are massively overpowered for everyday cargo use.
I kinda do love the way the people around you talk to in the office or the shop seem to be some kind of npc waiting for you to interact to them and then wait for you to go about for a bit and then do something in the background. Always the content we need and want!
@@ShadowOppsRC Still a few P-3s knocking around my flightline last couple of years, they mighta been replaced entirely by P-8s by now though. Ive been seeing them less and less often.
Mikey, Thank You So Much!!! I always wondered why you and your Dad never picked up surplus or civilian cargo C-130’s! I’m a former military jumper, both static line and freefall and I LOVED jumping from 130’s! I even got a little stick time on a 130, while we were “outside” the USA! Great fun to fly! I also heard about how unbelievably expensive the Basler Turbine Conversion is! OUCH! I just hope you and your Dad will get the aircraft you want & need for your Amazing Airline! Best of luck, and regards to your Dad!
If only Ottawa took the restraints off the west and north, the oilfields and mines would boom again! Would be cool to see a whole fleet of new buffalo green hercs! LOL
Yes, just like the fracking is doing here in the states. Oh, wait. With prices being what they are the fracking boom has died down. Availability does not equal use.
I flew in USMC Hercs between Cherry Point North Carolina and Danang Vietnam and back in 1967 and again in 1968, and made a few short hops in-country between Danang, Hue and Dong airstrips. I Also flew as a passenger in a few of Piedmont Airlines' DC3s back in the day. Both were really remarkable airplanes with surprisingly powerful takeoff thrust for their era. We lost engine power in one of the 130s somewhere between Wake Island and Hawaii, fully loaded with bazillion pounds of cargo and marines, but except for a mild loss of airspeed, no sweat. The crew seemed like it was no big deal, and it wasn't . I love these two venerable old birds. Thanks for the memories!
The RNZAF currently operates five C-130(NZ) Hercules. It took delivery of the first three Hercules (NZ7001 - NZ7003) in 1965. These were the first C-130H production models off the Lockheed production line. A further two C-130H, (NZ7004 - NZ7005) were added in 1969.
Hell Mikey, you sure crammed a lot of useful information into this episode of Plane Savers. It was great to see Dan Jones again too, you always know that you're gonna get great and interesting info when we see him in an episode. Likewise from Joe too, their knowledge of the industry is second to none. I find it amazing that you and everyone else is prevented from flying C-130s because of government policy. A classic case of incredulous ineptitude. Regards David Jones Coventry UK.
You can always blame government with greased palms for high prices of new aircraft, exorbitant certification costs, and extra hurdles to jump. Makes you feel like a free man when they say you can't do something because we say so.
@EpiDemic117 The FAA? Really? I've been a pilot for 38 years. Flown around the world, operated and maintained planes. The FAA, overall does an excellent job. There have been no evidence of corruption in my lifetime. They have excellent record for certification systems and US standards are accepted and copied the world over by other governments. The FAA certification standards are neither tortuous, nor excessively expensive, nor created to frustrate technology advancement. BTW go soak your head, you know-nothing.
When in A&P school we were taught that under U.S. Law, ex-military aircraft had to sit 25 years after decommissioning before being available for sale. This was exactly so these aircraft would not compete with civilian aircraft being built by the manufactures.
I watched Ice Pilots so much and never remember seeing all the cool stuff on the walls and hanging from the rafters. I wish you would do a video of just the cool stuff in the building. Great video Mikey!
to be fair, ive worked for envoy air and they have crappy regulations placed upon them trust me, over-regulation is far better then under regulation (at least for the workers)
New Zealand is just about to get rid of a few Hercs next year. The ones we've got flying around here were the same actual aircraft that brought our troops to Vietnam in 1969! They are legendary aircraft and we're finally replacing them with new Hercs, being built right now.
Thanks for answering my question Mikey! I didn't even expect you to notice it. TBH, I didn't realise the Electras you currently operate were related to the Hercules. I just thought the large back door would make loading and unloading easier than the side door you currently have to use, plus they have turboprop engines rather than pistons, which would make finding fuel easier for you. It really sucks that you can't just buy ex-military aircraft. I didn't realise Canada's government was in the pockets of big businesses the way the US government seems to be.
I’m in Miami, and was pursuing the idea of a cargo company using the L-100 to fly to the islands. Everything going there gets on a C-208 Caravan, C-47, or a Saab 340. Or a ship if you want it there in a day or two. A Hurc could have largo amounts in a small field in a short amount of time.
There is another big field that is due west of Prudhoe Bay that was capped. Kissinger did it to tie up the Saudis with buying our debt back in the 70s. It is has bigger reserves than Prudhoe Bay. Straight from the mouth of a former ARCO Alaska VP.
Love these Hercs, while a serving in the SADF, our Mortar Platoon was ‘given a lift’ by a Safair Hercules from the Northern Cape to Rundu on the border with Angola. As I remember it was 1980. Enjoyed the flight, and always recognize that sound. Great video!! I wonder if that was Dan Jones’s Herc!? 🛫😎
In 91-92 time frame I was working in Kuwait and the Kuwaitis were using a Herc out of Yellowknife for recovery of equipment out of Iraq. Great bunch of guys who really maintained the aircraft well.
Amy Walker my fault. That video clip is mirrored as Dan was sticking his head out the Co-pilots window. I flipped it in post. Never noticed the flag orientation changed.
@@MikeyMcBryan aaah! I did wonder! Now I could be really anal and say that flags should be painted in the direction the wind blows them from the imaginary pole... 😅🤣 Love you guys! Hopefully after I've emigrated to Canada and converted my license I can fly in to Yellowknife and say hi and ogle all the amazing hardware you guys fly.
FWIW: While watching this vido, _something_ popped up in my memory. Back in the 1960s, *some* Lockheed officials got *caught* paying bribes to members of other world governments while trying to sell Lockheed's F-104 Starfighter aircraft. I would LIKE to think that has NOT been the case with C-130s -- or lack therof -- in Canada....
You know i always thought Canadas decision to buy the F104 starfighter reeked of bribery. It really wasn't a very suitable aircraft for the RCAF - The Dassault Mirage III and Blackburn Buccaneer would have been more suitable. The SAAF were using them to deadly effect against modern MIG's in the late 80's and i think Mirage 3's were being used by the French in Afghanistan for ground attack in the late 00's.
Mike, Heavylift operated the Shorts SC5 Belfast which started life as a large military four turboprop engined transport aircraft which is even larger than the Hercules.
I worked air freight for Continental Airlines, 1997-2013. One of the Lynden C-130's made a few runs into IAH, it was always good to see it working, reminded me of my days at Clark AB, Philippines. we had the oldest E models in the whole USAF, and we flew the snot out of those old fellows !! ALSO, its good to see some fresh footage of you guys, really enjoyed the TV show, especially Joes encyclopedic knowledge of these old, indestructible aircraft ! After almost every episode I would think, "If they had a few C-130's, they could not only enrich themselves, but they could REALLY serve those outlying communities. "
I arrived in Yellowknife 1979 just when Wardair pulled out. The Wardair hangar was then purchased by Echo Bay and they used a Herc to set up the operation at Lupin Mines. I worked at Ptarmigan Airways after they purchased some of Wardair's Twin Otters. Exciting times.
Hey Mikey, watch your show all the time and can relate. The saying here in the U.S. is when they fly the latest whiz bang cargo airplane to the bone yard in AZ. they will fly the crew back home in a C-130. Worked on Herks 30 years in the A.F. Nothing better!!
Here in the States the Electra was the civilian model of what became the P-3 Orion military patrol and cargo plane. The C-130 (and variants)is a beast. What a workhorse. I don't know the particulars but the Blue Angels had to give up their 130 because of the model being grounded in the U.S. Coulson is pulling one out of the Boneyard in Tucson as we speak. Just my 2 cents ...... Love seeing the old C-47's. Always love the videos.
How come I have learned more with a Mikey YT video than a entire Discovery series starring the man himself? Boy they missed the mark, but I'm super happy to see you all doing well and the warbirds still working. Super grateful to learn more about our country and our aerospace history at the same time!
Tom you are just too kind bud!!
I totally agree on that, I guess that is why TV just misses the mark these days.
They are like trying to land 747s on short gravel strips with obvious results :D
Some of the best content is on UA-cam!
@@MikeyMcBryan Instead of converting your DC-3 to BT-67's, convert them like the South Africans did to their DC-3s.
There is a company. That is working on Certification right now. Preferred air parts
Yet again an amazing video!!! Well done Mikey!
Thanks Capt!!!
My father flew Hercs in both the military and commercially. His last duty station was in Angola, where the airline had a contract to service the mines. My parents lived in Utah and once a month Dad would make the commute to Angola. Just before he was to retire, the Angolan government threatened to nationalize the airline. So, Dad's last mission for the airline was to organize the rest of the pilots and mechanics to load up as many spare parts as the planes could carry and fly out all the planes under the radar in the dead of night. You can nationalize a steel mill or an oil field. It's harder to do with an airline.
That was a good job escaping communism.
Came across this by accident and loved it. As an old (69 yrs) USAF Vet, sure brought back memories. The Herc was and is one hell of an aircraft.
Flew 14 times on 130s.....fantastic aircraft ! USAF Vet as well :)
@@280StJohnsPl Despite my admiration of the Herc, as a former AeroMed, the C9 Nightingale will always be #1 in my heart. I swear, those C9 pilot's touch downs were as soft as thistledown no matter the weather.
@@AFmedic Sounds good to me :)
I really enjoy listening to your father's stories. If he hasn't written a book, maybe he should. 👍
100%
Yeah, someone needs to spend some time with Joe and extract all the stories he wants to tell, before he can't tell them anymore. Whether it comes out as a book, or a UA-cam or podcast series, or whatever, doesn't matter. But it'd be a shame if it was all lost.
I think mikey has been listening to joe and looks like he pays attention hopfully he will. I don't think Joe's a horn blower so we may have to wait for publishing. Joe reminds me of my first boss he had a fleet of tugs and a few bigger fish boats and equipment from Sooke to Masset great guy. Men of few words when they speak pays to listen.
Yes, definitely his autobiography would be a great book.
Agree!
Rest in peace Captain Ian H. McBeth, 44, from Montana, Officer Paul Hudson, 42 from Arizona, and Flight Engineer Rick A. DeMorgan Jr.,43, from Florida. Crew of Coulson tanker 134. Lost them this year fighting the Australian wild fires.
We were very gratefull to these brave individuals for their assistance in our time of great need, always remembered. From Queensland Australia.
RIP TO THOSE HEROES !
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Ah, so corruption and bribery. Cool, cool.
@@andytaylor1588 it runs in "it's" family I'm figuring!
@var1328 "The Prime Minister is a Priest?"
It's called capitalism thank you
The Black Hundreds airbus in a nutshell
But Andy, if that were true, shouldn't he be getting nervous about now?
He looks relaxed and care-free...
Whenever Joe speaks, I feel like like a kid listening to a wise elder, I'd love to hear more of his stories and anecdotes.
same
That seems completely ridiculous, in an age where we’re trying to conserve our natural resources - not making full use of perfectly serviceable aircraft.
Completely agree.
Because new aircraft manufacturers decided you can't. I see the CA government can be bought by corporations just like in the US.
The more you hear of things like this the more I come to the opinion that "green " policies are basically meaningless, its only green if the government and corporations can profit by it, and all the time the government acknowledge the environmental organizations they will fall into line because they to make out of it, the whole system is rotten and corrupt.
@@davidhoffman1278 They are proven to work & operate in 3rd world country no problem....... just give them life service over hall - cheaper than a brand new version. Thinks B1 & F111........ High polluting engines are the least of a a operators worries - time to get off your liberal green snow flake mindset & get with real world ! Everything is possible if you upgrade or life extension service.
@@davidhoffman1278 I'll make my point again they'll either bought for use in a 3rd world use (full service) or for parts to make few good ones in private hands..... just like DC3's in south America with no time hours being counted & providing good service until replaced. They'll be put into service again either way so watch this space if need arises. Modern aircraft ain't up to the job with small a private operator cost wise + Canada is total lost cause since the liberals have taken over... green this & that - it doesn't work.
Brings back memories, the "Old Fella's' comments about mining and the NEP/National Energy Program are bang on. I was in Resolute Bay when PWA was flying Hercs, shuttling stuff hither and tither 24/7. Helped load a D7 onto a Herc and that's when I realized what a huge magnificent craft it was.
Also ran the loader installing an engine on a DC3.
Later I was in Tuktoyaktuk at both Dome Petroleum and Esso bases. I was in the Dome shop listening to CBC North [that's all the communication we had] when the NEP was announced by the government of the day, Justin's dad.
I knew as I listened to that broadcast the energy boom was over.
Threw north eastern BC, Alberta and other places into a depression for 1 to 2 decades.
I really learned to dislike Liberal, Central Canada Politicians.
An almost forgotten piece of Canadian history.
Love that Joe is more involved with the channel now a days. Great work Mikey.
Great background and explanations!
(BTW You don't want them old A models...)
Bottom line: Change the laws. The C-130 would be very well suited for such a role flying freight (again) in Canada. Can land a C-130 on an aircraft carrier or Antarctica. The C-130 can also do heavy lifting that other platforms simply can't do. Manufactures want you to buy their latest product (see the LM-100J). Was a reason they chopped up all the C-141's up after retirement :-P.
A report I read is that the C-130s are at the end of their expected life do to many takeoff and landings. They need to be replaced by newer C-130s. The type of plane is not obsolete, it is the planes have been abused and need scraped.
never heard c130 landing on carriers before
Since when did canada have aircraft carriers? ;-)
@@ReptilianLepton hokay, that's what i figured. i wonder if this was done before c2 greyhound was available.
@@obstinatejack Almost 56 years ago and the C-130 has been much improved since then ua-cam.com/video/uM5AI3YSV3M/v-deo.html.
One of Mikey's videos was suggested by UA-cam and....I was hooked and subscribed. When I was stationed at Takhli and Ubon Thailand during the war I spent many hours flying all over the country in C-130s making the daily shuttle run from base to base, carrying troops and supplies. For this lifelong airplane nut it was like heaven. Thanks for the excellent presentations Mikey. Wright Flyer, USAF (1968-1972).
Each, and every time I cast eyes upon those Commandos, I just can't get over what fine looking aircraft they are; their designers had to have been avid Buck Rogers fans.
Thanks!
We love Hercs! They are a workhorse!!! But there isn’t a replacement for the sound of a huge radial engine!
every hercules variant ive ever seen is equipped with turboshaft of some manufature.. a radial wouldnt even fit?
Thank you for answering these type of questions. It's so neat to get the insiders view of the industry. Keep involving your dad, he really adds great content to your episodes. Again, my favorite UA-cam channel!
Thank you!!!!
I can’t let this go. After reading all the comments there are some hard headed people who either didn’t watch the video or didn’t pay attention.
There are tons of C-130’s in the boneyards around the world. Yes obviously that is known.
However as Mikey explained you can’t just register a military airplane for civilian use as revenue. (Yes there are certain exceptions, but for the general cargo operator military aircraft is NOT an option)
There are wayyy too many people commenting on here about C-130’s/L100’s that obviously have no clue what they are talking about. Stop saying stuff if you really aren’t sure of what you are saying.
This was a well explained video!! Good job. Too bad most people didn’t really comprehend what you were saying.
What he was saying was this is another case of the Canadian government stifling competition within its borders. They do the same in nearly every industry up to and including entertainment. They want you to buy the $20,000,000 Canadian made airplane.
@Robert W. Anderson. Then why does the same apply to the US? Instead of bashing governments, have you ever thought it might just be manufacturers? How about Lockheed wanting the aging aircraft parked so THEY can make 70-90 mil on selling a new J model? Or Boeing not wanting to be responsible for the war birds they inherited? It takes a lot of paperwork, resources, and manpower on the manufacturers side of the house to keep aging aircraft in the sky. Just some food for thought.
So can you detail why a military Herc, which is spec'd out to the max, cannot be certified for civilian service? Is it flight ops stuff or other tech?
@Pete McFadyen I hate to be that guy that is spewing useless or false information. I can not tell you for a fact why it is hard to register military aircraft for civilian use. I will tell you what I think some of the logic is. I may be dead wrong and way off, but this is what I think. In the eyes of the FAA, the Feds are there to protect the people on the ground. The military uses some of their aircraft hard and heavy and sometimes they use them for what the manufacturer never intended. As a buyer I would not know the full history of the aircraft and neither will the feds. So it is hard for the feds to protect people on the ground if they certify an aircraft that may or may not be safe in the sky. The manufacturers may not be willing to help in that they would rather sell new airplanes than help certify an old one. Again the manufacturers are putting their name on the line if they do not know the full history of the aircraft. As far as Part 121 goes, everything has to be traced or be traceable. Military does not work like that. So if I bought a military aircraft I would not have the records I need to trace back where parts came from and therefor can not be certified under part 121.
Let’s think this way for a second. If it were easy to certify military aircraft for civilian use what’s stopping some weirdo from flying a used fighter jet around?
I do believe there are a lot of reasons. Just my two cents. Take it for what you want.
@@BCnAK ..It makes sense to me.
As a C-130 and L-382 pilot, I can tell you there are differences in the two aircraft. They both went down the same assembly line, and as they were built, the L-382 had additional things added to make it compliant with FAA Part 25, Certification of Transport Category Aircraft. A military C-130 does not meet Part 25 standards. It could be converted, but to my knowledge no one has done the work to get a STC to convert C-130s to L-382s. That would require a lot of man hours just to be certified to do that. As an example, some of the Saudi Hercules are not C-130s, but L-382s. Some commercially operated L-382s currently flying started as state owned aircraft around the world, and are eventually sold on the market to commercial operators of transport category aircraft.
It was a C-130 A model, that lost both wings while fighting fires in Northern California, and it is my understanding the A model has more than it's share of woes. Best wishes, Mikey. I'm happy to see you again.
It's fine when properly maintained. The one which crashed wasn't
The A models had bad wings, a short fuselage and had DC electrical systems. The civilian G model was the one to have for cargo ops.
@Manny Puerta: What do you mean by "bad wings." What is a "civilian G model?" Say what you will about the C-130A, that tanker crew died because of negligent operation of the aircraft which appears to be all too common in that business.
Dale Comer The original Herc was only built for 5,000 hrs of airframe time. It was essentially a throwaway airplane. Success of the aircraft then kicked in and the design evolved. Still being manufactured since the late 50’s. Some of our TIA/Transamerica aircraft, all civilian, double-stretch G models, had over 60,000 hours in the 80’s. We were on our third generation wing, which included a new center wing box section. Tanker Hercs, if I am not mistaken, are all ex-military, single-stretch, E models (with a better wing).
The A models should stay parked. You can only maintain a part with a design limited lifetime so much, then whatever you do you’re on borrowed time.
@Manny Puerta-- The tanker crews fly on borrowed time. There will be no more USAF C-130 released for air tanker service because of the poor record of the mom and pop tanker operators. As Mikey points out ad nauseum there are no L-382G for sale and if there were I'd be very surprised if old Joe could swing a deal for it.
Mikey don't want to take anything away from you, but you've got one of the most entertaining and coolest dad's I've ever had the fortune of listening to.
I really hope he writes his memoirs when he retires.
May you, your family and your company last forever.
it's nice to see two ex-Atlantic Airways Electras still flying
Boy I do miss the regular series episodes, but frankly, Mickey, these are great! Keep them coming. You folks represent the real world of industrial aviation. How things work in the trenches. I've been involved in aviation for over 40 years and I still learn a lot from your videos. And its especially cool that I "know" the faces you present in the videos as if they were close friends. Best of luck to you folks and keep em flying!
I was a Marine Corps KC-130 mechanic from 94-2014...There will always be a place in my heart for the legacy birds.
Great skill you learned.
VMGR 152 was in NAM when I had my tour and had a few flights on them from CHU LAI to DANANG.
The Canadian Aerial Firefighting Company, Coulson Aviation has purchased the last 2 from the Norwegian Air Force and have imported them to Canada.
Coulson operates them under a restricted category airworthiness certificate for firefighting. You wouldn't be able to do that as a cargo airline.
@@andrewalexander9492 thanks for the info. Glad it works for their use. Go RADS go
When in the Military I flew in the Hercs quite a few times .. Never got tired of doing that
blackzed ...the ‘ Box Lunches ‘ given when flying on board the Herc were surprisingly good also
I was in more take-offs than landings in a C130.
Twist in for an assault landing?
Ahh the good ole days. I enjoyed them as well.
@@065Tim Which reminds me of an old song with the line "The sergeant was the last to jump, the first to hit the ground". I was artillery, Hercs took me into Shilo and Wainwright a few times. Respect for Airborne!
Wow the Herc at 1:01 64-0498 is a bird I flew on while stationed at Poep AFB. back in the mid. 80's.. At 1:04 the first bird on the right is 62-1810 that we received from a fire fighting unit back around 1986 and the inside was covered in red fire fight agent. I was assigned to it as the DCC (Dedicated Crew Chief) when our squadron acquired it. Put in many hours/days/months getting her up to our standards and many more going TDY with her...... Crazy seeing her again... Thank you and love your show..
Poep air force base? In Dutch and Afrkaans it means fart air force base😂😂
It’s funny, I liked ice pilots and they introduced the public to Buffalo air, but I really like Mikey’s channel a lot more than the reality tv format. Consistently great stuff.
👍👍👍👍👍
Never heard of this channel before but the algorithm knows I love the Hercules so here I am.
Thanks for Stoping by! 👋
This video definitely made me smile! I live close to the Ravenna arsenal in Ohio and every monday night, there'll be at least one C-130 in the area doing VOR approaches AT TREETOP LEVEL! It's definitely a sight to behold (especially when it makes my house shake)! Thanks for the informative video mikey! I definitely enjoyed it!
Myles Spear I sometimes see those same C-130s running maneuvers over the lake, operating out of Burke.
Thanks Myles!!
I live and work near Stratton ANG Base where the 109th is based, the group that flies the ski-equipped Hercs (the only ones still flying them) to Antarctica. See them flying over several times a month.
Mikey McBryan you’re quite welcome!
Steve B wow neat!
It's amazing that they're still making and using these planes after all these years...if only everything were so well designed.
Lynden was mainly a trucking company in Alaska, they got the hercs during the 90's, getting into the air cargo business
Big hello from Australia, I have much respect for you guys, And your dad reminds me of people i once knew hard as a rock but had time for those who bothered to listen. Your dad seems more chilled than when the cameras were rolling years ago.
Just found this video today 28/9/21 so happy to see the cargo electras still being loved by buffalo. I live in coventry in the uk and loved to see them on cargo flights. I miss these a lot. Id love to come to canada one day and show my sons these aircraft flying, i wax lyrical about them all the time to my boys. I think i bore them!
One day guys, just keep them flying eh
A small fun fact about 2 of the electras you guys have: my flight instructor I started flying with used to operate them for Amerer Air in Austria and he always used to tell me stories about them and I just love that I actually get so see them thriving with you guys!!
That was a nice video Mikey. The L-100 was Dad's plane and the best years of his PWA career. I sponsored the last Herc Rats reunion to help get that team together as Dad had just passed and those that hold the memories are leaving us at too fast of a rate. The stories are amazing, getting to see a small part was amazing, and the fact that the L-100 fleet did amazing things worldwide and made such a name for PWA and the Herc Rats is a story that needs to be kept alive. I'm hoping to convince Lockheed to show an L-100J at this year's Airshow...fingers crossed. I'll just be sad Dad isn't there to see it. Oh, and yes, if the far north opens up...$77M USD isn't bad for a kick ass certified big rig with wings...
The C-47 was a DC-3 first built in the 30's and converted to military use for WWII.
The C-47 was not a conversion. C-47's were built expressly for military service. The first C-47 was built in 1941.
Yep I work for Lynden and we now have 14 Hercules, I'm a truck driver for Lynden but the reason I came to work here was that my father was a C130 squadron commander (of the A model) in Vietnam and Okinawa ,1964-68 Turkey 1968 as well as Vandenberg AFB CA 69-70 and Scott AFB Illinois 1970-71
He also flew the DC3-C-47 for TDY with the FAA
I flew “A’s” in Africa in the late 80’s, then TransAfrik around Africa in the late 90’s to 2001. TransAfrik had quite a few L-382’s and L-100-20’s, and bought several more when SouthernAirTransport went out of business. In the ensuing few years after 1996, several were crashed or shot down in various enterprises, so that now they appear out of the Herk business.
This is the most original , informative You Tube airplane program!
Thank you john.
No need to compete in the free market when you can just pay to get laws passed to give you an unfair advantage.
just use the callsign Janet and nobody dares to ask questions 😁
And then you go ahead and double the price anyway. Business is good!
That's how Harley Davidson became popular
My family owned Zantop International Airlines and we had 22 Lockheed L-188 Electra’s.
I use to work at MSP. I remember we had a Zantop hanger there.Use to have a daily run to Detroit if I remember right. Once in awhile a Convair 640 would show up.Did you not get some Electra's from Hawaiian airlines??
I miss seeing the Zantop electras.
Yeah ! Those were the days ! When working for airlines was fun! When owners cared about the stuff. Also Mr.Zantop had a Republic Seabee! Who owns a Seabee must be a good guy! Regards from Alaska
I remember the good old Zantop days 👍
@@bfc3057 Didn't Zantop use some British turboprop "Argosy" freighters in the '60s ?
Many people don't realize that when the US military sends surplus aircraft to the boneyard, only the woerst, hughest maintenance examples go to Davis-Montham (the USAF boneyard). The best flying ones normally get "snapped up" by allied air forces or folks like Coulson who can use them in the Restricted category (essentially non-commercial use only). Taking an A model Herk from the boneyard to air wirthy would easuly run $20 to $30 million depending on the status of the wing box and other very high cost time change items. People also are not considering Buffalo's "bread and butter" loads. To substitue a Herk on one of the C-46's daily grocery runs would be like running a $120k custom 18-wheeler Kenworth on a trip that could be done by a Ford dually pickup. Fuel mileage is NOT the Herk's forte'. That's why it can do tricky things like land and take off from aircraft carriers, they are massively overpowered for everyday cargo use.
Loving the videos Mikey. Really enjoy how you just walk around the place and film as you go. Have a great weekend.
I kinda do love the way the people around you talk to in the office or the shop seem to be some kind of npc waiting for you to interact to them and then wait for you to go about for a bit and then do something in the background. Always the content we need and want!
That was awesome....these aircraft history lessons might be my favorite episodes. I'd love to learn more about the Electras.
Electras are what the p-3 Orion and Canadian Aurora were built off of.
Thanks Jim!!
@@ShadowOppsRC Still a few P-3s knocking around my flightline last couple of years, they mighta been replaced entirely by P-8s by now though. Ive been seeing them less and less often.
Mikey, Thank You So Much!!! I always wondered why you and your Dad never picked up surplus or civilian cargo C-130’s! I’m a former military jumper, both static line and freefall and I LOVED jumping from 130’s! I even got a little stick time on a 130, while we were “outside” the USA! Great fun to fly! I also heard about how unbelievably expensive the Basler Turbine Conversion is! OUCH! I just hope you and your Dad will get the aircraft you want & need for your Amazing Airline! Best of luck, and regards to your Dad!
If only Ottawa took the restraints off the west and north, the oilfields and mines would boom again! Would be cool to see a whole fleet of new buffalo green hercs! LOL
+JoshKro. Good luck with that with the current commie dictator wannabe PM.
Oil? Someone said oil? Looks like Canada needs liberating...
Yes, just like the fracking is doing here in the states. Oh, wait. With prices being what they are the fracking boom has died down. Availability does not equal use.
Ottawa take restraints off something? Ha. This is the assistant drama teacher and part time ski instructor in chief we're talking about here.
Not now,🥺
Worked for Bradley Air years ago and shared that hanger. Was always spotless in there.
My grand-uncle who passed away a month ago flew C130s to Antarctica and did crazy cold war paratrooper drops
I flew in USMC Hercs between Cherry Point North Carolina and Danang Vietnam and back in 1967 and again in 1968, and made a few short hops in-country between Danang, Hue and Dong airstrips. I Also flew as a passenger in a few of Piedmont Airlines' DC3s back in the day. Both were really remarkable airplanes with surprisingly powerful takeoff thrust for their era. We lost engine power in one of the 130s somewhere between Wake Island and Hawaii, fully loaded with bazillion pounds of cargo and marines, but except for a mild loss of airspeed, no sweat. The crew seemed like it was no big deal, and it wasn't . I love these two venerable old birds. Thanks for the memories!
The RNZAF currently operates five C-130(NZ) Hercules. It took delivery of the first three Hercules (NZ7001 - NZ7003) in 1965. These were the first C-130H production models off the Lockheed production line. A further two C-130H, (NZ7004 - NZ7005) were added in 1969.
About time the little guy , getting into the game yaaaa you’re Dad is a fabulous business man
Hell Mikey, you sure crammed a lot of useful information into this episode of Plane Savers. It was great to see Dan Jones again too, you always know that you're gonna get great and interesting info when we see him in an episode. Likewise from Joe too, their knowledge of the industry is second to none. I find it amazing that you and everyone else is prevented from flying C-130s because of government policy. A classic case of incredulous ineptitude.
Regards
David Jones
Coventry UK.
Thank you David Jones!!!!!
That C46 is seriously beautiful looking.
You can always blame government with greased palms for high prices of new aircraft, exorbitant certification costs, and extra hurdles to jump.
Makes you feel like a free man when they say you can't do something because we say so.
"You can't do something, because they said so." Says X country government, pointing towards BigCorpo with a wad of cash and slightly brown lips.
Kara Ayers Yep!!!
Always the conspiracy theory whackos.
@Jake Haynes a fool calling others sheep.
@EpiDemic117 The FAA? Really? I've been a pilot for 38 years. Flown around the world, operated and maintained planes. The FAA, overall does an excellent job. There have been no evidence of corruption in my lifetime. They have excellent record for certification systems and US standards are accepted and copied the world over by other governments. The FAA certification standards are neither tortuous, nor excessively expensive, nor created to frustrate technology advancement. BTW go soak your head, you know-nothing.
When in A&P school we were taught that under U.S. Law, ex-military aircraft had to sit 25 years after decommissioning before being available for sale. This was exactly so these aircraft would not compete with civilian aircraft being built by the manufactures.
Great video; I always wondered why there weren't more military Hercules in private operation.
I watched Ice Pilots so much and never remember seeing all the cool stuff on the walls and hanging from the rafters. I wish you would do a video of just the cool stuff in the building. Great video Mikey!
Makes sense Mikey, but sucks.
Smacks of government over-regulation.
Except for the small issue that the Commercial version is not the same as the Military version.
to be fair, ive worked for envoy air and they have crappy regulations placed upon them
trust me, over-regulation is far better then under regulation (at least for the workers)
New Zealand is just about to get rid of a few Hercs next year. The ones we've got flying around here were the same actual aircraft that brought our troops to Vietnam in 1969! They are legendary aircraft and we're finally replacing them with new Hercs, being built right now.
Thanks for answering my question Mikey! I didn't even expect you to notice it.
TBH, I didn't realise the Electras you currently operate were related to the Hercules. I just thought the large back door would make loading and unloading easier than the side door you currently have to use, plus they have turboprop engines rather than pistons, which would make finding fuel easier for you.
It really sucks that you can't just buy ex-military aircraft. I didn't realise Canada's government was in the pockets of big businesses the way the US government seems to be.
So happy I found your UA-cam!!! Miss the show tons I've rewatched all six seasons 3 times now
Now .... that was very, very interesting. Thanks Mikey.
I’m in Miami, and was pursuing the idea of a cargo company using the L-100 to fly to the islands. Everything going there gets on a C-208 Caravan, C-47, or a Saab 340. Or a ship if you want it there in a day or two. A Hurc could have largo amounts in a small field in a short amount of time.
Delta used to have some for cargo. I actually got material shipped on them that physically would not fit on other planes.
Delta is where the designation L-100 originated. The actual Lockheed Type designation is L-382. L-100 sounded better for PR.
I mentioned previously, being an ex military aircraft mech, my last assessment was on c130 H. It certainly is a solid aircraft.
Smart. Cap already drilled wells. The Saudis are laughing.
And a Trudeau did it. A little dejaveau.
Canada was, is, and will continue to be, an *exporter* of oil.
There is another big field that is due west of Prudhoe Bay that was capped. Kissinger did it to tie up the Saudis with buying our debt back in the 70s. It is has bigger reserves than Prudhoe Bay. Straight from the mouth of a former ARCO Alaska VP.
Thanks Mikey it's nice to be up to date, I haven't seen your dad in twenty years and He still looks the same.
Great video Mikey. Very informative and enjoyable. Keep’em coming since we can’t see you guys anymore except in reruns.
Did you know at one time , Delta Airlines operated a small fleet of Hercs for their cargo operations. Probably at least 50 years ago thou....
C-46's, too.
Wow! I’m an old C130 maintainer, had not heard this story. Tks for sharing! Good stuff!
Shows who owns your politicians and it isn't the voters.
Love these Hercs, while a serving in the SADF, our Mortar Platoon was ‘given a lift’ by a Safair Hercules from the Northern Cape to Rundu on the border with Angola. As I remember it was 1980. Enjoyed the flight, and always recognize that sound.
Great video!! I wonder if that was Dan Jones’s Herc!? 🛫😎
Thanks for the explanation Mikey, Very interesting...... Oh! ... Hey Chuckey!. You sneaked him in again lol :-)
But not long enough.
In 91-92 time frame I was working in Kuwait and the Kuwaitis were using a Herc out of Yellowknife for recovery of equipment out of Iraq. Great bunch of guys who really maintained the aircraft well.
I've heard (through an ex-CP Air colleague) that PWA's Hercules fleet was extremely maintenance-intensive.
Ask the guy that wrote right up ...
The herc is a specialist aircraft,, remote conditions, no ground support, worst place scenario,, and there are still a few flying..
4:53 the flag appears to be upside down, which is the international maritime sign of distress.
Amy Walker my fault. That video clip is mirrored as Dan was sticking his head out the Co-pilots window. I flipped it in post. Never noticed the flag orientation changed.
@@MikeyMcBryan aaah! I did wonder! Now I could be really anal and say that flags should be painted in the direction the wind blows them from the imaginary pole... 😅🤣
Love you guys! Hopefully after I've emigrated to Canada and converted my license I can fly in to Yellowknife and say hi and ogle all the amazing hardware you guys fly.
Nobody explains this stuff better than you do, Mikey. And I like to learn it...so thank you for getting me learnt.
FWIW: While watching this vido, _something_ popped up in my memory.
Back in the 1960s, *some* Lockheed officials got *caught* paying bribes to members of other world governments while trying to sell Lockheed's F-104 Starfighter aircraft. I would LIKE to think that has NOT been the case with C-130s -- or lack therof -- in Canada....
You know i always thought Canadas decision to buy the F104 starfighter reeked of bribery. It really wasn't a very suitable aircraft for the RCAF - The Dassault Mirage III and Blackburn Buccaneer would have been more suitable. The SAAF were using them to deadly effect against modern MIG's in the late 80's and i think Mirage 3's were being used by the French in Afghanistan for ground attack in the late 00's.
Man I love the way you do videos. Most people who do vids talk about breakfast you hit it and hit it good. Thanks.
1:12 The Electra truly has airbrakes like no other.
Mike, Heavylift operated the Shorts SC5 Belfast which started life as a large military four turboprop engined transport aircraft which is even larger than the Hercules.
Great episode thanks! Was that all one continuous shot?! You have become a Pro filmmaker!
Thanks Mark!
I worked air freight for Continental Airlines, 1997-2013. One of the Lynden C-130's made a few runs into IAH, it was always good to see it working, reminded me of my days at Clark AB, Philippines. we had the oldest E models in the whole USAF, and we flew the snot out of those old fellows !! ALSO, its good to see some fresh footage of you guys, really enjoyed the TV show, especially Joes encyclopedic knowledge of these old, indestructible aircraft ! After almost every episode I would think, "If they had a few C-130's, they could not only enrich themselves, but they could REALLY serve those outlying communities. "
Nice big door,,,heavy floor and ready for war !
What an informative and friendly video. Charisma & smarts all of you!
Great info... The 'why' is important history to keep alive.
I arrived in Yellowknife 1979 just when Wardair pulled out. The Wardair hangar was then purchased by Echo Bay and they used a Herc to set up the operation at Lupin Mines. I worked at Ptarmigan Airways after they purchased some of Wardair's Twin Otters. Exciting times.
I flew in a Herc to CFS Alert.
Hey Mikey, watch your show all the time and can relate. The saying here in the U.S. is when they fly the latest whiz bang cargo airplane to the bone yard in AZ. they will fly the crew back home in a C-130. Worked on Herks 30 years in the A.F. Nothing better!!
$70 mill Hell that makes the F35 110 mill + 80 mill upgrades over 8 years look like a bargain hahahah
Here in the States the Electra was the civilian model of what became the P-3 Orion military patrol and cargo plane. The C-130 (and variants)is a beast. What a workhorse. I don't know the particulars but the Blue Angels had to give up their 130 because of the model being grounded in the U.S. Coulson is pulling one out of the Boneyard in Tucson as we speak. Just my 2 cents ...... Love seeing the old C-47's. Always love the videos.
Their's more oil stashed in reserves around the world than could ever be used in the foreseeable future.
Great info, thanks for sharing. Good to see Joe & Chuck still around & looking healthy.
Says no views I’m here,,,, ok 15 min later and 1250 views ,,,go mikey go
Thanks mike :) 👍👍👍👍👍
Mikey: I love your narrations. Very informative. Thanks!
9:30 * wolf whistle*