It would be nice to get some unusual wagons instead. It's been done for the Cornish china clay. Why not for another local freight like potash? Those wagons have been seen as far north as Aberdeen and as far south as Peterborough plus all the way between Boulby mine and Bristol.
An unusual prototype, for sure. It's interesting that this is KR Models' 3rd locomotive and their 1st steamer, yet the first loco that's built like a more conventional diesel. Since GT3 was a 4-6-0 and the Fell was a 4-8-4. When the order books opened for these Leaders, they were slated for mid 2022 delivery. It's a real shame that they're both 2 years late, and still have imperfections.
I've always been fascinated by these and certain other Bulleid locos. I remember seeing an article on scratch building one, in RM, on a couple of occasions, one chap did sterling work, but it took a lot of careful effort. We must be at the zenith of RTR in most of the scales and gauges.
Overall, it's an exciting and convincing model. The only thing that detracts is the excessive coal load, which fouls the loading gauge. But that can easily be corrected, as the coal load is removable.
Congratulations for attempting this KR. I have their fell with sound and it runs beautifully. The one im interested in is the 4DDs . Thank you Hornby mag too
Did anyone see any of the “loan” Leaders actually running at the NEC today? Saw one black one that wouldn’t move at all and two silver (eh?) ones dumped in fiddleyards. All of them leaning to one side at a crazy angle. Forgive me for saying so but it looks like the usual KR mess.
I think that's a reasonably fair and balance view (For the uninitiated in Bulleids Leader), there is quite a lot wrong with it... but if people aren't in to details then I suppose it's ok
BULLEID LEADER DESIGN & CONCEPT. Bulleid's Leader Class 0-6-0+0-6-0. The first order was was fifty of these "tank" locos. Quickly reduced to 5 once the Southern Railways Board got wind of all the new technologies to be incorporated. The principle conception of this design was to replace virtually ALL the remaining passenger tank classes. Many of which were well overdue for withdrawal, and in the process radically reduce the number of steam classes in use. So also reducing the complexities of having to stock spares for outdated designs. The Leader Class locomotives were designed to have 6 sleeve valve cylinders, three on each bogie. The mechanism to operate these cylinders was to use an improved version of the Chain drive used on Bulleid's Merchant Navy & West Country class Pacifics. This first use of "sleeve" valves, other than experiments, quickly lead to initial reliability issues. Virtually all steam locos had used either "Slide" valves or later "Piston valves". As Bulleid had explained to the Society of Locomotive Engineers. The true issue of the "steam locomotive" was that many known problems of the steam locomotive had been accepted as part & parcel of the steam locomotive. Virtually no Locomotive Engineers, with the exception of G.J.Churchward back in 1898-1903, had ever approached the "steam loco" with a scientific eye. And Bulleid proposed that the new Leader Class was intended to abolish many of the generally accepted faults. In principle Bulleid's concepts were sound, but as with the "Leader" case, and the problem of his Pacifics, he was simply ahead of his time. Manufacturing was still lacking in keeping up with him. In other words Bulleid was an experimental engineer, and a lot more time would be needed to iron out teething problems, before new designs would become reliable enough for general purpose use. As Bulleid was not appreciative of the new British Railways set up, (The 1948 Nationalisation), where Robin Riddles (ex LMS), had been put in charge of ALL new locomotive design. Bulleid resigned and went to work for CIE in Ireland. So only one Leader Class loco was actually completed, and began trials. A second was just weeks away from completion and the other three were only in the early stages of construction. Once Bulleid had left, Riddles quickly put an end to any further development of the Leader type. As Robin Riddles was already settling on the concept, of only building straight forward two cylinder simple designs (for British Railways). Hence of the 999 steam locos BR eventually built, there was only ONE experimental loco, that utilised 3 cylinders. (The sole BR 8P, No 71000 "Duke of Gloucester" introduced in 1954). Let's hope this new model of the "Leader" class proves more reliable that the Bulleid's real loco No: 36001 !!! Happy Modelling 😊
The firehole was offset because the entire firebox and boiler were offset to allow a passageway from the smokebox end driving cab and the fireman's cab.
Badly needs some black foam or something to take your attention from the large gap between body & bogies - particularly noticeable with the viewing angle frequently used on this presentation!
The coal load certainly sticks out I don't understand KR Models thinking you can remove it apparently. My experience with KR Models has not been good so will pass on this one.
The name by the way is pronounced BLYDE. My friend is called bullied and that's how all his relatives pronounce it. Thanks Hornby,shame about your quality control.
Quality control? This loco is from KR Models, not Hornby. And as the other comment states the magazine is not the model railway company. Check yourself before you wreck yourself 😅
I’m glad that at least one big company has made a model of the Leader. It was such an unusual machine that must’ve been a nightmare to operate.
It's super nice that we are getting so many unusual locos
It would be nice to get some unusual wagons instead. It's been done for the Cornish china clay. Why not for another local freight like potash? Those wagons have been seen as far north as Aberdeen and as far south as Peterborough plus all the way between Boulby mine and Bristol.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 that would be cool! Who's doing the clay wagons, are you talking about the generic Bachmann clay wagons or something different?
@modelrailfan37 not sure if anyone is doing them now, but they have been modelled in the past, both the traditional clay hoods and the slurry tanks.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 those would be neat then! Sorry I read your comment wrong and thought someone had announced them, lol
@modelrailfan37 no worries.
An unusual prototype, for sure. It's interesting that this is KR Models' 3rd locomotive and their 1st steamer, yet the first loco that's built like a more conventional diesel. Since GT3 was a 4-6-0 and the Fell was a 4-8-4.
When the order books opened for these Leaders, they were slated for mid 2022 delivery. It's a real shame that they're both 2 years late, and still have imperfections.
A very nice and unusual locomotive. Thanks for your interesting and informative video. Very enjoyable watching.
I've always been fascinated by these and certain other Bulleid locos.
I remember seeing an article on scratch building one, in RM, on a couple of occasions, one chap did sterling work, but it took a lot of careful effort.
We must be at the zenith of RTR in most of the scales and gauges.
Overall, it's an exciting and convincing model. The only thing that detracts is the excessive coal load, which fouls the loading gauge. But that can easily be corrected, as the coal load is removable.
Congratulations for attempting this KR. I have their fell with sound and it runs beautifully. The one im interested in is the 4DDs . Thank you Hornby mag too
Did anyone see any of the “loan” Leaders actually running at the NEC today? Saw one black one that wouldn’t move at all and two silver (eh?) ones dumped in fiddleyards. All of them leaning to one side at a crazy angle. Forgive me for saying so but it looks like the usual KR mess.
I think that's a reasonably fair and balance view (For the uninitiated in Bulleids Leader), there is quite a lot wrong with it... but if people aren't in to details then I suppose it's ok
This must be the railway equivalent to the Cybermen from Dr Who - frightening!
BULLEID LEADER DESIGN & CONCEPT.
Bulleid's Leader Class 0-6-0+0-6-0. The first order was was fifty of these "tank" locos. Quickly reduced to 5 once the Southern Railways Board got wind of all the new technologies to be incorporated. The principle conception of this design was to replace virtually ALL the remaining passenger tank classes. Many of which were well overdue for withdrawal, and in the process radically reduce the number of steam classes in use. So also reducing the complexities of having to stock spares for outdated designs. The Leader Class locomotives were designed to have 6 sleeve valve cylinders, three on each bogie. The mechanism to operate these cylinders was to use an improved version of the Chain drive used on Bulleid's Merchant Navy & West Country class Pacifics. This first use of "sleeve" valves, other than experiments, quickly lead to initial reliability issues. Virtually all steam locos had used either "Slide" valves or later "Piston valves".
As Bulleid had explained to the Society of Locomotive Engineers. The true issue of the "steam locomotive" was that many known problems of the steam locomotive had been accepted as part & parcel of the steam locomotive. Virtually no Locomotive Engineers, with the exception of G.J.Churchward back in 1898-1903, had ever approached the "steam loco" with a scientific eye. And Bulleid proposed that the new Leader Class was intended to abolish many of the generally accepted faults.
In principle Bulleid's concepts were sound, but as with the "Leader" case, and the problem of his Pacifics, he was simply ahead of his time. Manufacturing was still lacking in keeping up with him. In other words Bulleid was an experimental engineer, and a lot more time would be needed to iron out teething problems, before new designs would become reliable enough for general purpose use.
As Bulleid was not appreciative of the new British Railways set up, (The 1948 Nationalisation), where Robin Riddles (ex LMS), had been put in charge of ALL new locomotive design. Bulleid resigned and went to work for CIE in Ireland. So only one Leader Class loco was actually completed, and began trials. A second was just weeks away from completion and the other three were only in the early stages of construction. Once Bulleid had left, Riddles quickly put an end to any further development of the Leader type. As Robin Riddles was already settling on the concept, of only building straight forward two cylinder simple designs (for British Railways). Hence of the 999 steam locos BR eventually built, there was only ONE experimental loco, that utilised 3 cylinders. (The sole BR 8P, No 71000 "Duke of Gloucester" introduced in 1954).
Let's hope this new model of the "Leader" class proves more reliable that the Bulleid's real loco No: 36001 !!!
Happy Modelling 😊
The firehole was offset because the entire firebox and boiler were offset to allow a passageway from the smokebox end driving cab and the fireman's cab.
It looks like a tube train carriage has been nailed onto a steam train chassis....
Two steam train chassis, to be precise!
Looks to be yet another KR Models loco with major imperfections...
Better than it not existing. Try to see the glass half full
When the Class 59s were new, I’ve heard a number of people calling them the “Leaders”.
find it funny that a couple days ago i wondered if someone would make a bulleid leader in OO gauge
The only thing im not a fan of is the fact that the buffers aren't painted, besides that, it's pretty good :]
Badly needs some black foam or something to take your attention from the large gap between body & bogies - particularly noticeable with the viewing angle frequently used on this presentation!
That coal load on the roof is awful. It looks like its going to spill out all over the place.
The coal load certainly sticks out I don't understand KR Models thinking you can remove it apparently. My experience with KR Models has not been good so will pass on this one.
A little tip. When you run a test of a mode, turn the sound off if its fitted so we can hear how quiet it is.
Called the "Leader" class because they were to be named after British political and military leaders.
Oh 0:41 , goodness me, 😢KR Models.
Bludy ell that sounds terrible. Why is UK outline sound still so far behind US. Sounds like a woodwork shop.
sounds like tinnitus to me, but then all small gauge dcc sound is utter dross.
A locomotive so ugly and dysfunctional that even I can't bring myself to purchase one, and I usually love all these ancient oddities.
Ugliest train ever?
The name by the way is pronounced BLYDE. My friend is called bullied and that's how all his relatives pronounce it. Thanks Hornby,shame about your quality control.
Hornby magazine have nothing to do with Hornby other than a licensed name. So a bit of a random comment.
Quality control? This loco is from KR Models, not Hornby. And as the other comment states the magazine is not the model railway company. Check yourself before you wreck yourself 😅
Not Hornby, their quality control has nothing to do with them mispronouncing a name, and it's pronounced "Bul-lied", not "Blyde".
Bludy ell that sounds terrible. Why is UK outline sound still so far behind US. Sounds like a woodwork shop.
Why is your spelling so terrible? Oh yes the US education system is so far behind the UK's.