Dead Sea Scrolls: The Great Isaiah Scroll (3/4)
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- How do the Dead Sea Scrolls compare with our Bible today? In this most important video in our series on the Dead Sea Scrolls, we look in detail at the similarities and differences of Old Testaments through the ages, and consider their reliability in our lives of faith today.
We survey the Christian Scriptures, the Septuagint, Masoretic Text, and historic scrolls, and explore in detail the Great Scroll of Isaiah found in the caves of Qumran. Its wording, structure, and prophecies of the Messiah bear meaningfully on our lives of faith as Christians today.
Dead Sea Scrolls topics are covered in the videos below:
**** Dead Sea Scrolls 1: History and Content - • Dead Sea Scrolls: Disc...
**** Dead Sea Scrolls 2: The War Scroll - • Dead Sea Scrolls: The ...
**** Dead Sea Scrolls 3: Biblical Documents - • Dead Sea Scrolls: The ...
**** Dead Sea Scrolls 4: Importance Today - • Dead Sea Scrolls: Impo...
Chapters
0:00 Dead Sea Scrolls
0:39 The Bible
1:10 Contents
2:06 Old Testament Composition
2:30 Masoretic Text
3:17 Other OT Traditions (Septuagint)
4:21 Importance of Dead Sea Scrolls
5:02 Great Isaiah Scroll
6:43 Textual Comparison
8:44 Value of Isaiah Scroll
10:01 Messianic Prophecies
11:03 Resources
11:38 Next Video: New Discoveries
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Finally, someone who points out what the dead sea scrolls say. And Isaiah, much less. Thanks for pointing out the differences instead of just saying like everyone else that's it's 'basically the same' without giving any useful information.
From the Lexham Bible Dictionary Sampler pg. 187: “1QIsaᵃ preserves a text type that, while close to the traditional Hebrew (Masoretic) text, also contains over two dozen readings where it agrees with the early Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible (the Septuagint, or LXX) rather than the MT [Masoretic Text]. Some would assign 1QIsaᵃ to a text type distinct from those of both the MT and the LXX (Ulrich and Flint, Qumran).”
“Although the biblical scrolls from Qumran generally retain a more ancient form of Hebrew than that which was actually spoken in that day, some claim that the scribe of 1QIsaᵃ [the so-called Great Isaiah Scroll] clarified the text of Isaiah for an audience that no longer understood some classical Hebrew forms, updating and including more popular terms for a contemporary audience (Parry and Qimron, New Edition).” (in the same source. pg. 187.)
Parry and Qimron undoubtedly were guardedly referring to Dr. Solomon Zeitlin who likely “threw the baby out with the bathwater.”
Professor Zeitlin got to read only some of the evidence from Qumran in the years it was being discovered (1948-1956) because there are only 10-12 rather-well to quite-well preserved scrolls and many of these were published in the beginning.
but there’s about 900 manuscripts from Qumran and almost all of them consists of tiny, brittle fragments which were extremely slowly edited over four decades by an exclusive four-man team before they were published in 1991. And virtually no one else had access neither to the scrolls nor even to photographs of the text until they were published.
(An article from February 12, 1956 in the Jewish Telegraphic Agency (est. 1917))
Prof. Zeitlin Disputes Value of Dead Sea Scrolls for Judaism
The Dead Sea Scrolls “have no value for Judaism or the history of early Christianity” Dr. Solomon Zeitlin, professor of Rabbinic Literature at Dropsie College, said last night at a lecture here. He asserted that the scrolls are not of great antiquity, but were written in the Middle Ages by “none too literate writers and hence have no value for Judaism or early Christianity.”
Dr. Zeitlin based his argument on his study of “the internal evidence” in the scrolls. He pointed out that the spelling of various Hebrew words and terms which occur in the scrolls did not come into usage among the Jews until the Middle Ages. He also indicated that the scrolls contained references to Jewish laws which were not in vogue during the pre-Christian period but were enacted centuries later.
“If one assigned to Shakespeare the authorship of a newly-found manuscript wherein there were words like Fabian, ‘telephone’, ‘automobile’, ‘New Deal’, and reference was made to laws which were enacted in the Victorian age, would any student of English literature regard the manuscript as that of Shakespeare?,” Prof. Zeitlin asked. “Similar reasoning applies to the Dead Sea Scrolls,” he said.
Prof. Zeitlin also disputed the importance of the famous “so-called Manual of Discipline” of the Essene sect, and the Commentary on Habakkuk and the Zadokite Fragments in which the expression “Teacher of Righteousness” is held to be significant for anticipating the ministry of Jesus. “Detailed study of these scrolls show that they were written in the Middle Ages by uneducated Jews who either belonged to one of the Karaitic sects or were influenced by one of them”, he claimed.
(source: www.jta.org/1956/02/22/archive/prof-zeitlin-disputes-value-of-dead-sea-scrolls-forjudaism)
The Habakkuk Commentary (1QpHab) is carbon-14 dated as late as AD 122. It and the Community Rule (1QS) which is carbon-14 dated as late as 2 AD were found rolled together as one, packed the same way in which the Great Isaiah scroll (1QIsaᵃ) was packed. Initially upon discovery, they appeared to be two black wax or tar covered cylinders. Being sealed so kept them extremely well-preserved. The Great Isaiah scroll was first carbon dated as late as 1 AD but the scholars date it to 160-200 BC.
i figure the scribes had some old skins to use and faked the old lettering for the "Great" Isaiah Scroll (1QIsaᵃ) and then later time-capsuled it for the very purpose it's serving twodaze whirled because a comparison of the most quoted by the writers of the New Testament book, that is NT verses of Isiah (alone) to the Masoretic Text vs. the Septuagint will show how the current Hebrew text is scrubbed of Messianic verses.
Hi brother is Isaiah book is written at a time or written in different times, some scholars argues it is two books 1to39, and 40 to 66 is it true please clear my doubt praise the Lord
Hi k.v. - this is an interesting and important question: whether portions of Isaiah were written at different times. Unfortunately I'm not thoroughly studied in this area, and can't answer myself with confidence. I can say that in the Great Isaiah Scroll of the Dead Sea Scrolls some scholars note a slight difference in the Hebrew form between chapters 1-33 and 34-66 (with 34 and 35 being similar in ideas and language to the latter part of the book, and 36-39 being a recounting of Kings II). One can also note a division break here only slightly more pronounced than elsewhere in the manuscript (which can be seen here: dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah). Whether this is of any significance, however, is of debate. What the Great Isaiah Scroll does show, however, is that by the 2nd century BC at latest the book of Isaiah as we know it was intact, with its chapters and content present in the same order as we have it today.
📜✡️ The change of one word. Can change the meaning of a sentence, a verse, a paragraph, a book within a book, and the entire book. In which leads to false information and false teaching.
Therefore, one must be accurate in translation and what he is teaching. Also, confirm it with the original information. Use originals.
Due to language barriers. It is a difficult task. Yet, it must be done.
What I would like to see. Is a simple way to read them.
A pamphlet that shows the original scrolls.
Then beside it. A translation in english. We must do this for all other languages as well.
Simplicity is the key.
I do not want to read everyone's opinions and more books. I want to look at what the original tells us. No more hearsay. I'm tired of books that never give what is actually written on these scrolls.
Selling books is all it tends to be about. Never bringing into fruitation the task point, "What do the scrolls say?!" 📜
How can this be done? You have the access that only a few have. You who have the control over this. Must make it known to others in the most simplest ways.
No site or book fits this description.
God is not one of confusion. Man is however, very confusing.
Again, no matter what site or book I read. What the scrolls say is not there. As it claimed it would be. Thus, misleading people into buying their books. Misleading them onto their sites. Censorship or Google blocking us from seeing this information.
All things from YHWH God are supposed to be given freely, clearly, accurately, taught, and stated.
Please do this. As Adonai told us to do.
Thank you.
Taking ones word is no longer trustworthy. In these perilous times. Was it ever?
Thank you. May YHWH God bless you, keep you protect you and shine his light upon you and all YHWH'S people. Amen
Brother I am from India please give your mail id to communicate with you about Bible, and some information about scripture s plz bro i need to know more about god
Hi k.v., sure, feel free to reach out. My email is in the channel's 'About' tab under 'Details.' Happy to help if I can. God bless you today, and my best wishes in your search to know more about God.
Thank you bro
When was Jesus stomped on ?
I never recalled any such story
Hi Charles, I don't recall any such story either! Did I misspeak at some point in the video? Happy to clarify if anything didn't come through clearly. Blessings today, Charles.
I might have either miss understood you or miss heard you but I will listen again
But I did enjoy the video with a few various this I have I different feeling about from my 23 years of studying so I explain
Jesus said pull the beam out your own I first before you help your brother
So in 1999 I quite my job and began to study on my own for the last 23 years
Buy my third year of study I learned the Hebrew letters to include there Affix meanings of which Hebrew & Aramaic have many
By studying Etymology I now know what a Infix is And A Affix meanings are of the Hebrew
This is my first year every responding to any video on the internet on UA-cam or Facebook
So I see things not like other’s
Example
Jesus is the Son of God
And Jesus told Pontius Pilot His Kingdom was in Heaven or my followers would have not allowed me to be taken
In2nd Thessalonians 1:7-8
When Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty Angels in a flaming Fire taking vengeance on them that Know not God nor obeyed the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
1st Thessalonians 4:16-17
Shall be caught up with them to meet the Lord in the Air (this Jesus Returning)
John 7:16 Jesus said
My doctrine is not mine but His who sent Me
In Ephesians 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ
1st Corinthians 15:24-26 He (Jesus) will hand over the Kingdom to
God The Father
Jeremiah 5:22 Gear ye Me Not saith the LORD will ye Not Tremble at My Presence
Revelation 21:3 and God Himself shall Be with Them their God 21:4 And God shall Wipe away all tears from their Eyes
Is The Jesus is the Son of God and coming back in a flaming Fire
Then I see God Himself Walking Upon The Earth ?
But I will listen again to this video to see if I mis heard Again thanks for responding to my Question
@@StephenJahn
At 10:30
You read He was Crushed
When was Jesus Crushed
I read
Jesus was beaten
Jesus was nailed to the cross
Jesus was stabbed
But I see not in the New Testament where Jesus was crushed ?
@@charlesberry7118 Yes, thank you Charles for this insight. This translation of Isaiah 53:5 (which I believe is NIV) renders the Hebrew verb here as "crushed," as do many other translations. The King James Version, however, translates the same word as "bruised," which perhaps fits more closely with the presentation of Christ's suffering as described in the Gospels. The word can also be translated as "broken" or "shattered," giving the overall impression that he was wounded severely unto death for our sins.
This phrase is from one of the four Servant Songs in Isaiah, which Christians (following references in the Bible) associate with Christ and his redemptive work. These passages - Isaiah 42:1-4, Isaiah 49:1-6, Isaiah 50:4-7, and Isaiah 52:13-53:12 - also contain some symbolic presentations, that while not literal can be understood figuratively to apply to Christ's role and suffering.
Yes, you're absolutely right that none of the Gospels record Jesus as being "crushed," but if taken figuratively along with the other descriptions, these passages can be taken to paint a incisive and moving portrait of Christ's endurance and anguish on our behalf.
@@StephenJahn
Thank you so much for responding and so quickly But consider this verse
King David was a Shepherd so
Zechariah 11:15 instruments foolish shepherd
11:16 I will rise up a Shepherd in the land Shall not visit those that be cut off
11:17 woe to idol Shepherd that leaveth flock sword upon His Arm Upon His Right Eye His Arm shall be cleaned dried up His right Eye shall Be Utterly Darkened
Songs of Solomon As a Seal upon thine Arm
Isaiah 52:10 LORD hath made bare His Holy Arm in the eyes of all the nations all the ends of the earth Shall see the Salvation Of God
Isaiah 53:1 to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Ezekiel 31:17 His Arm dwelt under
His Shadow in the midst of the Heathens
Isaiah 45:11 saith LORD ash Me things to Come concerning My SONS & concerning the works of My Hands Command You Me
Then if Jesus is coming back in a cloud
Who is the child to be born in revelations 12:2 & 12:5 I don’t think it is Jesus is another Son
Have you read the Book of Enoch
It Describes three
Lord of Spirits
Son of Man
Head of Days
???
Thank you for responding May you & your loved ones be Blessed
If a triple Talaqed divorced muslim woman wants to return back to her earlier husband due to mutual consent then why getting sex (nikaah Halala) from another bearded beast person is strictly necessary in Islam ??
Verse 2:230 of Quran.
Any idea ? Is the verse from devil ?
Fake scrolls