FREEZE DRYING an ENTIRE 🌭 HOT DOG 🌭 -- Harvestright Freeze Dryer
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Every once in a while, I want to try and go back and redeem myself from a previous failed freeze drying attempt. Years ago, I tried to freeze dry several types of meat including a hot dog. Freeze drying a hot dog in a couple of different ways did not work. They shriveled up and did not work. In this video, I try once again to freeze dry a hot dog, hot dog bun, onions, ketchup and mustard. I also freeze dried some chili to make a freeze dried chili dog.
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Steam the bun over boiling water? They have the attachment for your pot
How about briefly sticking hot dogs inside pressure cooker? Steam under pressure should rehydrate that thing quick.
On the School Report channel, he wraps a wet paper towel around the bread, then places it in a zip lock bag and places it in the refrigerator over night. It is works out very well. He has rehydrated many different kinds of breads this way.
awesome👍
I use my veggie steamer to rehydrate breads. Paper towel on the bottom, then buns on top. Turn after 30 seconds to avoid sogginess.
Freeze driers have many benefits for true long term storage of foods. Soft breads is simply not one of them. Best to simply store the ingredients for long term and make bread when it's time. You won't get 25 years with yeast but with the right type and storage, you can get 3-6 yrs. Or stick with biscuits and crackers.
This is the best freeze drying channel on UA-cam! Keep up the great work. :)
I think the hot dog bun may have rehydrated better in an actual steamer basket.
Just a thought. For those of us who are not the "social media" type...put some of the favorite recipes on your website. Rotate them in, it would be awesome.
What about boiling the split hot dogs first to remove more fat?
I have the same question. It seems logicsl.
Didn’t work. The shell is too fatty.
How about briefly sticking hot dogs inside pressure cooker? Steam under pressure should rehydrate that thing quick.
Really nice to see your great attitude in dealing with challenges. People freeze dry for different reasons but for myself, it's only for extremely long term storage. Weiners almost by definition are high fat so already going to be a challenge. If someone really wanted hot dogs in an apocalypse, I would try 1) low fat weiners (probably maple leaf or schneiders beef) + 2) sliced like in banana chips + 3) then boiled in hot water ---- then pre-freeze and then freeze dry. It should then store for a long time with the disadvantage of not being shaped like a traditional weiner. As for buns - I would just long term store the raw ingredients and make the bun when its time.
I think you are right, lowest fat, diced and boiled and maybe rinsed a couple times.
@@live.life.simple. Yes - rinsing would help too.
shdowmist what are your favorite things to freeze dry for extremely long term storage? Thanks
@@lifescomplacencies5220 Cut fruit and veggies. Lots of lean meats but only ground or small diced; never steaks or whole burger paddies. Bacon works well if done right but it's not very cost effective as I buy the bacon that has a good division of fat and meat in that the all of the fat can be removed so only 100% meat is left --- time consuming but otherwise, would not do well long term.
@@shadowmist1246 Thank you. I should be receiving my medium freeze dryer any day now. Harvest Right was backed up 5 to 7 weeks. I am anxiously anticipating getting started on my long term food supply. I appreciate your reply and Retired at 40 I appreciate your continued commitment to educating the freeze drying community.
Thank you for experimenting for us!
Bamboo steamer for yr buns
Thanks Brian
God bless
I have tried buns and bread in the bamboo with minimal sucess
Try the kosher still need franks for a leaner hotdog.
Steaming the bun to rehydrate.
I’m trying to get my husband to get a freeze dryer and he has been holding out....I THINK this MAYBE just swayed him🤣💪🏻 Thank you♥️
If he's reading this - tell him to stop holding out. Literally the best purchase we made. Get going. Start storing, start preserving. Brother - literally, do the first few batches yourself. I'm telling you, it's absolutely life changing and a true adventure for you, you and your wife and you and your family.
@@rossanderson6842 I have been really researching and between some FB freeze dryer sites and the Better Business Bureau reports on Harvest right of Utah, I am really scared. So many people are having problems and customer service is telling them how to take your machine apart and trying different things etc. Really upset people that lost a lot of money, have machines that aren’t working and can get no refund. My husband would be SO mad if we got one like it sounds many have, after spending that much $$$$. My luck, I’d get a lemon😓 I wish there were more to choose from. I know several homesteaders that have them and don’t seem to have problems, so I’m just perplexed😖 Thank you for your comment.
Great video! How fun, you have your 'Retired at 40' on your HR screen! ☺️☺️
Do you ever freeze dried garlic with other food? And if you do does the other food smell and taste like garlic? Enjoy the video by the way.
Yes, I would like to know too!
As always with these videos, I learned something new.
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You might try boiling the hotdogs first. That may take out some of the fat and sodium. This may allow for the water to boil out better. Now as to how it will rehydrate. That I don’t know.
Why did you put the hot dogs on the top shelf? Ketchup on hot dogs, OH! no no no!
I recommend steaming the hotdogs before freezing. Should take a lot of oil out of them.
Good stuff my friend.
Boil a small pot of water with a screen on top. Place your fd'd bun on top. Steam them!!
I have tried steaming quite a few things with minimal success.
I hear ya...its almost like having to learn how to cook again. And I too will never FD hot dogs again. .@live.life.simple.
Could you show how you add hours on in a video please. I hear people doing it all the time but I’ve never seen anybody doing it and I’m not sure that I want to try it without seeing it done.
On the screen, you can add hours before you start the cycle by hitting the "Customize" button, or during the Final Dry stage by hitting the up arrow.
At the end of you cycle it says process complete. There is a button that says add more dry time. Make it a habit not to do anything other than opening your valve and checking food before touching the screen.
@@FleckBrecklin thank you.
cooling rack on fry pan with water with lid steam bun turn every minut so steam doesnt over accumulate its how you refresh just dry bread :D
just got my medium it was built in april no pillow harvest said not needed
Freeze dried bread makes awesome croutons.
What about trying a stove top steamer to rehydrate the buns.
After watching this i think I might have to make a run to the store and get some ingredients to make a lean homemade Hotdog and try it out
So, I learned a big lesson today on what not to try to freeze dry.
Hotdogs and turkey sausages.
It created the biggest mess ever and difficult to clean.
I went to Sam’s club and bought Nathan’s brand hotdogs and Old Wisconsin Turkey Snack Sticks. I cut the in half lengthwise to help them let the water evaporate.
This morning, the machine said the cycle was finished. But, I literally couldn’t see through the plexiglass because there was a yellow film coating everything. Every surface including the trays and the ice itself on the round sides of the machines were coated in yellowy grease.
And, the hotdogs weren’t even dried. I have a moisture tester that showed they insides of the dogs weren’t even done.
At first, I thought I’d stick them back in to get more dry. I thought I’d defrost and clean the machine and stuck them all back in for round two. But, everything was so difficult to clean I ended up just throwing it all out. I didn’t want to clean it all again. Wasn’t worth it.
By far, this was the worst item to try to freeze dry. Even worse than Caramel Machiatto. The regular (full sugar version) of that acted like spray foam insulation out of the bottle. It swelled up so bad, I had to use a knife to cut the trays out of the machine.
But hotdogs were worse.
(Consider yourself warned.)
Do you think cutting the hot dogs in half before freeze drying would work?
Good video. You always try things I’m curious about. Thanks
Thanks for your support
You refer to natural light the best, 😆
I freeze dried Kayem beef+pork mix hot dogs (12g fat in a 56g hotdog = 21.4%. I got a "manager's Special" 5lb box for $5 instead of $20 and this was late August and they're still good until September!
I chopped them into rounds another similar size pieces.
They left a lot of condensed hot dog fat inside the drum of the machine as well as on the heat elements above the specific trays that had the hot dogs in them.
It made cleaning more of a pain in the neck.
I write down a log for each batch in a notebook so if anyone comments and asks I can go look that up.
The rounds should rehydrate better than whole. Great idea on the log
Boil water let the steam come from the tea kettle to help with the freeze dried bread/ buns .
Great info
Just use an actual steamer to re-hydrate those buns. My steamer is my most used kitchen appliance.
when i went to the local goodwill hunting for a brita filter pitcher, i also found a steamer pot. i tried french toast stick and had better success. i dipped in water for just a second to moisten the outside then put in the steamer pot for 5 min. it worked fairly well. the inside was still a little dry but i think if would have kept it in the steamer pot longer it would have hydrated more. bread being more porous than a fully cooked piece of french toast the steamer pot might work better. might even try water in a spray bottle and spray the bun down before steaming in the steamer pot.
also, boiling the dogs before FD reduces the fat content especially if you split before boil. the fat will release into the water. down side is the fat is like 50% of the taste of a good hotdog.
I’d probably take fresh buns with me camping. I doubt I’d take a microwave with me.
How about briefly sticking hot dogs inside pressure cooker? Steam under pressure should rehydrate that thing quick.
Brian. Sour kraut soup? I'd love the recipe for that!
Maybe i'll put it down for an upcoming video!
8:11 why don't you take out the trays you know are done?
Try wrapping a damp kitchen towel around the dry buns. Place in oven at 350. I do this with hardened stale bread and it works well. just lay on a cookie sheet wrap your bread in a damp towel. Check in 15 mins. You might need to rewett your towel or wrap w another damp one.Microwaves heat from the inside out so that won't work.
Great tip!
Wish you tried the hot dog and chilly before adding moisture back
I have seen a lot of comments on the facebook page about vinegar affecting the oil and/or pump... even possible damage to the pump???. Do you have any issues doing pickles?
Pregnant Pause.... Handful of failures... LOL!!!! I really enjoy your vids Looking forward to getting my FD in a few weeks and I thank you for all of your failures.
have you tried a rice steam cooker to re-hydrate your buns?
What temp are you looking for on the moisture meter? Would like to know how to use it before buying. Thank you!
You are looking for no reading at all. If it lights up or beeps, its not done
Use a rice steamer to steam the buns back
I have a rice cooker with a steamer rack that works well for softening bread.
Looking for a used machine new is outside my budget. Any recommendations for where to find one?
Most people don't want to give them up😂 You can post on our facebook or Mewe group to see if anyone has one for sale.
Just wanted to let you know. The ballpark Turkey dogs are great and freeze dry completely.
Have you tried putting buns in a steamer basket over boiling water.
0:04 fact check true. I've binged watched this channel and you have :)
Great video. I think hotdogs will almost have to be canned to get a long shelf life out of them. As far as the buns, why not go in the opposite direction and wrap them in a wet paper towel, put them in a ziplok bag, and throw them in the refrigerator over night and see what happens. I mean vapor drive is when moisture goes from hot or warm to cold, just like when you take a cold beer out of the refrigerator and water beads up on the cold can, a cold bun wrapped in a wet paper towel, and TIME, and maybe the water will move to the bread and slowly rehydrate it over night. I think it NEEDS to be in a plastic bag, or all the moisture in the paper towel will simply spread to everything cold in the refrigerator instead of staying on the bun where it's needed. I do not think breads will rehydrate FAST like we want, and will take planning ahead, but what do I know, I could be 100% wrong as well. Keep up the great work.
I think you are right. Wet towel, sealed in a bag in the fridge overnight. Looks like others have had good results with that as well.
ok, on the dogs, try to catch them BEFORE the trays stary to warm. I have found they were totally but the warming seemed to put the moisture back in
Vegan hot dogs have less fat. Going to try those this week!
I would slice the hot dogs lenghwise about a 1/4 -1/2 inch deep b4 freeze drying.....And I'd boil them in beer to rehydrate
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What would happen if you boiled the hotdogs first, and then freeze dried them? It should theoretically reduce the fat content and maybe then it would freeze dry better. Maybe perforate them to let the fat out?
Low fat wieners + diced + boil + rinsed + then freeze dry = long term storage.
Put the buns in a light towel and place over a.pot of boiling water in a colander don't know how long it will take but I'm shure it will work
I have tried in a bamboo steamer with no luck. I think overnight in the fridge is the best option.
Would steaming the bun work better?
A steamer basket over a pan.of water would work with buns and hotdogs
Try a rice or vegetable steamer for bread and pastery.
I wonder if you cook and drain the hot dogs before freeze drying…..
I used to drink it back in my drinking days, I had to stop since I would drink about half and in about thirty minutes my head would feel like it was about to explode.
Wondering if hot dogs freeze dry better if slit along one side or pricked with the tenderize tool? Thank you for this demonstration.
That's what he did in the video.
@@shadowmist1246 oh, I missed that
Slice the hot dogs so it has a route for moisture
What about grilling the hotdog first. Most of the fat would be gone wouldn’t it. And the flavor from the grill I think makes em even better. Is my thinking wrong? Split em long ways almost like frying them. Or heck… even fry em first.
Hot dogs are in a casing, which I think would make it more difficult to freeze dry, just like some fruits and vegetables need to be punctured to remove the moisture. They are also fatty. If I tried, I would go with a high quality beef hot dog, cut slits in them, boil them for a minute to remove some of the grease, pat dry, and then try freeze drying. The buns... have you tried using a steamer basket and then toasting??
What’s the gadget for moisture?
"Only a true communist would put ketchup on a hot dog"- Karl Marx
great video, Didn't see your other video yet, what's that meter you have to check the moisture?
Slicing to the middle and boiling the hotdogs removes the oil well. Maybe that would work?
I am gonna try some hotdog buns and get into it cause I wanna do some fajitas too.
Well, I would’ve never thought to do hotdogs but I guarantee I won’t be. Thank you
have you tried boiling the hotdogs first?
Q: does it matter how the pump is standing? Mine is on its side?
Maybe try steaming the buns. You could try it with a bowl of water next to bread in the microwave.
Could you put a grate over the boiling hot dog beer pot and place the buns in that direct steam?
I'd like to see the bun in a actual bun steamer or vegetable steamer
for the tube steaks.... I would pressure can them in quart jars....Bacon turns out great.... you do have to use parchment paper.... refer to Bexar Prepper / Bacon
When I do bacon, I will select the packages that have the right bacon to fat layout ie large chunks of fat attached to large chunks of meat as opposed to the more marbled packages. Then cut the fat out and freeze dry the pure meat ---- will be good for long term storage.
@@shadowmist1246 Thank You for that.... I dont have a freeze dryer yet... due to the current political situation as well as other reasons, I will look into getting one pretty quick.... mainly interested in vegi drying.... I already have a bunch of canned meats.... Thank You.... I appreciate all the help I can get....
Poke the hot dogs with a toothpick, 5 times, down the length. Then, boil them. Remove a bunch of the fat. Then try. I dont freeze dry still, but, I do boil fat off hot dogs for a few people that cant have so much fat.
Steam the buns, use a bamboo Steamer
You can buy a puck like ultrasonic gizmo - they are sold for putting in a bucket with your laundry as a sort of washing machine. I think it might be worth trying one as part of a rehydration process for things that are not so straightforward to rehydrate. They are pretty cheap and I think you can get USB type c powered versions. I don't have a freeze dryer (yet) so unfortunately I can't try it myself. You can also get ultrasonic jewellery cleaners. Again they might work. To stop over watering it you could put a set amount of liquid in a plastic bag, remove the air then put it in an ultrasonic bath full of water - this will transfer the ultrasonic energy to the food. The idea being that the ultrasonic energy would drive the liquid to infuse through the thing you are trying to rehydrate without heating it.
That sounds interesting. If you try it out, keep us posted
What moisture meter do you use- where to buy one from?
I would recommend a thermal imaging camera or an infrared thermometer. You can find the ones I use here: www.amazon.com/shop/retiredat40
How about if you cook the hotdog then freeze dry it?!
Hot dogs are precooked form the store. You might be able to render some more of the fats and oils from them by cooking, but I think there would still be too much fat for it to work.
Ok, I've got to ask... How did you customize your screen to show your brand name @ 6:45
What if you did the dogs in a pressure cooker?
On the fb page people are saying pickles and mustard ruin your oil pump? What are your thoughts?
Why would those ruin a pump?
@@live.life.simple. they said because the acid in them cause corrosion in the pump 🤷🏼♀️
Can you freeze dry microgreens?
Deconstructed hot dog bun just scrunch it up and add it to the chili add too much water to the chili and then then add your BUN and it should soak up some of the water and rehydrate it would be deconstructed
Well - I havent done them, but there are fat free hot dogs sold at the store.
bamboo steamer
What if the hotdogs got freeze dried as slices?? I've watched so many of your videos, out of sequence obviously. In a few of them you slice things apart so that there's an escape for the moisture. Hotdog slices would be good for baked beans. Beanie weenies
Bamboo steamer works too rehydrate
Think of this like gauging managers. No such thing as a bad manager; there are managers you want to emulate, and ones you're glad you learned how not to be. When you're learning, trying new things, no such thing as a fail. More importantly, you are teaching others through your experiences...Well done!
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Here in Canada we have a limited selection of canned chili. I find that the Stag chillis taste off after freeze drying, and I presume that was from fat and oils. What did you use?
My homemade, low fat stuff does well, but easy helps
I used a vegetarian chili, but homemade is always best so you can control what goes in.
I like the costco stag chilli here in Canada but the fat is pretty visible when you first open the can. Especially for very long term storage, I would just buy and grind very lean beef and make chili out of this to freeze dry.
If u poke a fork all over the beef then grill at a lower temperature you in theory should get enough of the fat out to freeze dry it
Dip the bun in water very quickly. Wrap it in aluminum foil. Put in oven for 5 min or so......z
A pressure cooker and or pressure pot might work
Good luck taking that microwave to the top of your mountain. Ha ha
Gonna have to take along the raw ingredients from long term storage and make bannock.
have you tried slicing the hotdogs?
I have tried sliced and better quality as well. They will do better but they are still a very high fat item.
For the hotdog had you tried filling them with extra water or dehydrated them after you freeze dried them?