Thanks for the wonderful ride through Hell Gate. I have great deal of respect for tugboat captains! When I was a kid sixty years ago, my parents owned a 38 foot Elco (built in Bayonne NJ in 1929) and kept it near Albany on the Hudson. One summer we traveled up the Hudson to Lake Champlain but we got a late start northward. As night fell, we left the lock at Stillwater NY and got behind a tugboat pushing a barge (jet fuel for Plattsburgh or Burlington). We didn't want to pass him because of the dimly lit buoys (kerosene lanterns) that marked the narrow and twisty channel (and swimmers would frequently extinguish them ) in the Hudson River. So we followed a slow tug who was running search lights on both sides of the barge to find the buoys. When we got to Schuylerville and 2 hours later, the tug captain kindly illuminated the tricky entrance to the harbor for us. Thank you Mr. Tugboat Captain for the illumination. And thank you Capt. Tim for the continued illumination about important maritime issues!
Don’t hold back. Educate the masses with your real world working experience. It’s the only way people learn, from those that do 24/7. Thanks for the great entertaining videos!
there is a tug called "W.O. Decker - South Street Seaport Museum. 1930 circa" she used to give rides. RECOMMEND IT IF YOU CAN GET A RIDE. i rode on her once. it was very interesting.
Hi I was in the RNXS in the UK before it was disbanded you saw all sorts of behaviour even from so called professionals. We had one " skipper" from the yachties who couldn't moor up for toffees it was painful watching him.
When I was in grade 8 I remember filling out an aptitude test. It recommended I become a tugboat captain! Strong maths and reasoning skills. Well I found myself on a different path and became a refrigeration mechanic. My eldest brother became a civil engineer and when I was younger detested engineers. Rules this and rules that, however I learned to respect his profession the day I recognized that engineering is really about risk management. He strove to provide our society with the methods to ensure safety. But he was certainly amazed by my methodology in incorporating good engineering theory into practical application. You do a great job at what you do. The world has as many critics as mosquitoes it seems. And you are a professional so you must have an academic streak in you!
Thank you very much for watching Kevin. You made me giggle remembering my highschool aptitude test recommendations... (I shouldn't out this out there. 😂) It said I should either be an airline steward (remember when they were called that?) or a hairdresser...... 😂 😂 😂 I was surprised they didn't also suggest show business... 😂 To funny. CUOTO
A couple of years ago as we were heading westbound towards the gate (on our way back from Maine to Albany) we listened in on a Beneteau arguing with a tug and barge that they had the right of way because they were constrained by draft lol. They got really angry at the tug on 16 until the NYPD stepped in, did the standard reminder of what 16 is for (first time I've heard the NYPD do that vs the coasties), and then told the Beneteau that they would pull them over for smoking crack if they actually thought they had stand on over the tug. My wife and I were laughing so hard listening to the whole exchange.
the rules i my country say that comercial ships are always the stand on, but they word it like big over small. after the comercial boats and ships come the sailboats unless the powered boat is fishing or other wize limited in their steering.
My take on your rant is - Rant away! We learn from you every time you open your mouth and speak and while I am truly impressed by your knowledge, your restraint indicates your wisdom! Thank you for your video's and as always, I/we are in your debt for sharing your life experiences.
I graduated from Kings Point and sailed deep sea for a while as a deck officer before I started to work ashore. (Wanted to stay married.) The yacht comment cracked me up. Nice channel and enjoyed the transit.
Hi Tim, I understand your frustration. Some people fail to understand that the maritime industry is a business. And that moving many tons of hazardous cargo is serious business. CUOTO
I honestly can share your frustrations? There will always be an expert somewhere. The rules are what makes things work most of the time, but not all the time. Rules help us predict behaviors, common sense generally keeps us alive..Fair winds captain! Thanks for sharing!
What I love best about this is you're steaming right by all the hustle of the city, you can hear the sirens and the cars and see the people, but just a few feet away, there is calm out on the water, slowly drifting by in your own world. CUOTO Tim!
Really appreciate your channel! Former bosn/xpo on a Coast Guard construction tender out of Corpus Christi....you bring back lots of memories! Bosn Chief sends JB
I agree with your sentiments expressed. I'm a retired Naval Officer and all my working life was around ships from patrol boats to destroyers to tankers and aircraft carriers. Ship handling is something I'm fond of and proud of and, I used to delight in doing stern board alongside balancing the wind, tide, two engines and SOMETIMES the rudder. I think its like dancing ie you either got the rythm or you ain't? Ship handling is something you sense as one balances the momentum of the vessel and the forces acting upon it. Cheers
On basically all yt channels are a tiny group of viewers knowing everything better than the content creator doing it for years and years professionally. If you're based in the real world, this phenomenon may be hard to understand at first glance. Since the beginning of the internet age, there was always someone with a keyboard and a grudge. Those guys (mostly men) aren't looking for a topic-related fact-based discussion - they use the anonymity of the www to annoy people they wouldn't dare to in real life. Therefore - don't worry to much about those people. I think it's best to ignore them - as ignorance is what they fear the most. Enjoy sharing your line of work with 99,99% of your viewers who appreciate your effort to bring us great videos. Thanks for that!!
Tim your videos are great. Biggest mistake most UA-cam creators make is letting comments affect them. Please don’t be affected or infected by people who have no clue of which they speak. Stay safe and keep making these great journeys.
Tim, I am inclined to agree with you on your frustration in dealing with "yachtsmen". Very few "yachtsmen" are unaware that operating a tugboat is quite a bit different than operating a yacht. Different physical forces are at work for each. Keep up the good work!
It's all good; don't sweat the abridged rant. Your channel, say what you want. Love hearing you talk and love hearing the engine and seeing the sites. It's all good for me.
In a world that’s becoming increasingly sensitive about hurting someone’s feelings we all need to reflect on the fact that if we shut down vigorous debate we run the risk of curtailed progress and stalled improvement. It’s not negative to voice frustration provided it’s done in a non confrontational manner.
Thanks for the ride Skipper! Last time I went through the gates was in the winter of 1980. I was one of the "Notorious" Puddle Pirates... on a 41' UTB. I remember, one trip through... It was one of those seasonal ebb tide changes and the waters there in Hells Gate was like boating in a washing machine! It was a fun ride on a "Toy Boat". VTS is a truly amazing Organization. They were just upstairs of my Comm Center in Houston. It's like going into a CIC night or day, it was always dark and busy. I... We....Many of us understand your "rant". Being an operator of any vessel is a Serious Responsibility. That is the issue. Sadly, there are those that that just do not exercise courtesy nor common sense. You know very well... Certification, Education, Training can not replace Experience! I don't think any one person can know, or understand everything, ever! Thank's again.
My Dad used to say "to knowledge have and wisdom lack, is a load of books on an asses back" People being book smart without the experience to apply the knowledge is a real problem these days. Great Channel, thank you from Alberta, Canada
I appreciate you explaining what and why your doing whats needed to navigate in and out of port and docking. Been boating most of my life and find this fascinating watching captains dealing with such tonnage. Wish I was there!
Thanks for the explanation on how heading head against the tide for a barge provides improved steerage. When navigating my sailboat through Hell Gate I feel for the barge skipper when I have 5 knots in my favor. Watching your channel helps me improve my own skills.
Good on you. We all get frustrated and say things. Having the ability to review what we said and then turn down the volume is something that we can all learn from. Hopefully you feel better that you got that rant off your chest!
No isues here Tim. We all have stuff that we have to blow off steam about. My sense is that you're not a disrespectful person. You're just telling your story. Keep it up. I learn from each video you share with us.
Fantastic video and channel. I spent over 20 years in the Navy and retired O-7 but all my career was in public affairs. Greatest respect for men like you who can actually do things on the water.
@@TimBatSea I sailed a desk with CINCPAC at Pearl for most of my career. It’s the seamen, petty officers and master chiefs who run the Navy, we officers are glorified managers. I always made sure that the seamen and noncoms got the credit they deserved in press releases, community relation events, etc.
Tim: I would like to have heard what you were going to say. I'm a relatively new boater, about 7 years, and like to hear opinions and knowledge from people who have been around and dealt with all kinds of situations. It seems like common sense and respect for the other guy are about the best rules of thumb I have found that covers nearly every sitiuation I have encountered so far on the water. Of course the rule of tonnage is a good one too! Outside of the NY sights, learning from you is the reason I will happily continue watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
Amatures that think they are professionals are a danger to themselves and others, and tend to resist learning enough to actually progress to a professional level of skills.
New subscriber just came across your channel. As a sailor on a 34 foot boat out of Port Washington NY, I have a greater appreciation for your visibility and having sailed through the gate several times I’m pleasantly surprised at you’re maneuverability pulling away from that dock. appreciate you sharing this video in stories. Good rant, btw. Sometimes it has to be said.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. Please consider subscribing. I trying to post new content every Tuesday. You may also like my other channel, SV Paquita. I sailed my 42 foot boat down to Puerto Rico and will soon be sailing it back up north. CUOTO
Great video Mr Tim! I’m wrapping up a career as a commercial pilot, hopefully I can make it another 5 years, but now that aviation doesn’t rule my life I find myself fascinated with other profession. Thank you for taking the time to produce your videos.
I love your confidence but also respect for the machinery and the forces of nature. You make this look so easy, im still getting very stressed maneuvering a 50 footer
As someone who's water life only extends to my 17ft walleye boat I will say I always feel its my responsibility to stay completely out of the way of any working vessel and try to figure out what they want and need me to do. Not what I want them to do. Us pleasure boat users need to better understand what our actions on the water should be. I have been in some crazy situations chasing fish but always listen and take advice of the true real captains to stay safe.. Love your videos and find them very relaxing and interesting. Glad you put the time and energy into this channel for all of us to enjoy. We will try to stay clear of you bow sir haha.
Here in Wisconsin if you where born after Jan 1 1989 you need to take a boater safety course but even taking that I still do not believe I could do your job as much as I would love to do a "ride along" you channel is the next best thing.
Good Morning Tim, Thank you for taking us on the ride thru the Gate. I would love to ride along again thru the Gate with YOU calling out all of the scenery. I have lived some frustration with other "boaters" while working on clam and oyster boats in the Long Island Sound. In the biker community there is a saying, "fifteen grand and fifteen miles don't make you a biker" same goes for boats of all kinds. There is a saying in the commercial fishing community, "A little knowledge is dangerous" and that goes for nearly every profession. I respect you cutting out anything that you might feel was negative, it is your channel, and you should only release what you feel is acceptable. Your videos are great, they show us things we may have never seen, they give us a view into a world that we otherwise may have never known, they give us a better understanding of what tug capts go thru, and they teach us the good, the bad, the what-to-do and what-NOT-to-do around your tow. Keep up the amazing content. Wishing you a fair wind, calm seas, and slack tide every time you need it. CUOTO.
My new favorite channel. Spent 15 years in NY watching you guys do your work with fascination. Wish I had your channel then but great to learn your side now. SHould be required watch for all aspiring tug captains. Kudos. Big fan.
Capt. Tim: Another great video. Thank you for letting us ride along with you. Saturday morning coffee with Capt. Tim, what a great way to start the day. One of the reasons I started teaching sailing/boating is that I recognized the need for education of the boating public. Teaching for Tradewinds Sailing School on SFO Bay I tough the required class objectives but included how the commercial marine industry works and how best to not get in their way. Even if we might have the rules on our side they should consider the hazards to all in pushing their "rights". At the end of class they fully understood how VTS works and how to communicate on Ch. 13 with commercial traffic. They got a good dose on using maritime language such as "I intend on hugging the red side." Your videos are a great source of education to the boating public and at least one video will be played in the classroom portion of our classes with your web link passed along to them. Thank you... capt bill
That's great Bill! Thank you very much! Without trying to get to cranky, I would like to point out how so many other countries have educational requirements for anyone wanting to buy a boat. It sounds like you are teaching some of the things I wish more people knew. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea Some states now require a boating class starting with the young and working up. This is ludicrous . Make it mandatory for ALL boaters to get licensed. Through a volunteer organization I've tough some of these boater licensing classes and people are basically given the answers for the license test. Or they can go online and take the test with an open book. There is minimal learning that takes place here. In addition to my Master's License I hold a Commercial pilot's license and as you know a person has to learn the subject to pass the test. Why not boating? I just want boaters to be safe and have a good understanding of the maritime environment and thus have more fun on the water.
Dead right poem. Here lies the body of George O'Day. He died maintaining his right of way. He was right, dead right as he rode along, But he is just as dead as if he were wrong.
A great lesson in physics, as you left dock. It was interesting to watch the maneuver pulling away and rotating the barge at the same time. Looks easy, until you take into account the mass and velocity as you go, then transition easily into forward motion. Great video.
Thank you very much for watching Dennis. If you are new to the channel, Welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
"... before things go Terribly wrong..." I'm not sure you stopped quite soon enough for some people... lol Great scenery and it's really cool to hear your perspective on the whole operation, from the basic mechanics of how to get the boat and barge to move how you need it to in a situation, all the way up to the politics and business of the water.
Don't know anything about being a captain but you make it look easy thanks for the ride and education looks like the best way to see that darn town is on your tug 😅 si if I don't know much it might not mean much but awesome job
Two things I suspect may be behind your silent frustration: - When you're taught a marine skill, you learn ONE way that should always work. Keeps the teaching simple, makes exams easy to set, starts you off on the right track. Over time, in particular places and circumstances, people evolve to use different ways - because for them they're right. With experience and understanding of why the 'one way' was chosen, you realise other ways are sometimes both safe and better. We have the same in scuba diving - I teach the 'one way', but sometimes in some places we'll agreed to use a different method - Big vessels have so much inertia and 'sail area' that handling them is quite different - you're thinking a minute or two ahead for how your barge need to be moving - even using full engine power. Leisure vessels are much more nimble - and we don't always realise PS - love the 'ghost ship' on your starboard at 29:18 🙂
Surprise, you're human and somethings get under your skin. I admire you for making the decision to do your editing and continuing on. Thank you enjoyed the trip.
Nice to see you reduce your wake for that gravel barge! As far as your rant goes I was thinking of common sense and experience that was building up in my mind, nuff said. Thanks for the ride! Best Regards, Jay
Shucks was looking forward to the rant. Not so much for the rant as much as it was something I could learn from. You have a balanced perspective Tim. I am a recreational boater that tries to learn as much as I can about the commercial side. Respect that you shut it down when you did...
Tim: Please always say what's on your mind. No apologies! I boated on the Hudson, around Manhattan, through Hell Gate for 18 years, Saw plenty of crazy boating incidents, gave several tows, searched for drowning victims, etc. And every July 4 was extra insane!
Hi Tim, your channel is much appreciated by me and by a lot of viewers, and I would like to thank you for your generosity in allowing us to share your love for what you do. I always find that "small" minds talk small, in other words, they have their rut and they are sticking to it, no matter what. I have not found a valid way to deal with this issue, but if I ignore it, it tends to lose power over time. You do such a fantastic job with these videos that it really surprises me that there are viewers that pick on them and you; that is just a sign of our times I guess, entitlement seems so pervasive. Sorry about my rant jaja! With much gratitude CUOTO
Tim I understand the frustration. I know the difficulty in balancing your words when it may offend a few. I am not as subtle. For those so sensitive and so enamored with their alleged knowledge of maritime, I have a finger and it is the middle one. I have extensive experience in San Francisco Bay and later in inland navigation. In both commercial traffic was a fact of life. In SF, the club sneered with their interpretation of the rules of the road. Folks, reading Chapmans does not prepare you for reality. The real rule is channels, physics, and gross tonnage, I was later part of a sailing club on the Tennessee River that understood. We routed all of our events away from the channel avoiding commercial traffic. We also pounded home the reality of right of way beyond the BS most boaters believe. In all of the regatta briefings we were reminded to stand down when a towboat was coming. To never believe you can beat them across the channel, and to never start out directly behind until a few minutes passed after their passing. Doing so once made me understand all I needed to know about aircraft wake turbulence which is no different in boating. Boating is a great experience and recreational boaters need to grasp their limits when their mortality is involved..
The thing is that "right of way" isn't even a thing in the COLREGS. They don't say "you can do whatever you want and other people have to lump it" - it's stand on and give way, which means basically "you keep doing what you are doing in a consistent and predictable manner" and "you alter course to avoid that vessel who is behaving in a consistent and predictable manner so you can figure out how to avoid them." It's literally just specifying that only one vessel should be making a significant course correction to avoid vessels both trying to change course and turning into each other. Like you know the little dance people end up doing sometimes when they meet in a doorway or something? "You go" "No you go" etc? It's to avoid the boat version of that. (Only since people stop better than boats do, the boat version usually leads to someone sinking.) It does not absolve either vessel of responsibility for a collision, either, because if you get close and the give way vessel has not given way, it is the job of the stand on vessel to adjust course AT THAT POINT to avoid hitting the other vessel. So they can't just go merrily along and expect everyone to just get out of their way, as some recreational boaters like to do. The COLREGs literally don't say to do that.
Back in the 1980's I was a frequent NYC visitor to work on various types of communications equipment. I met a guy with decades of experience doing installation and maintenance on just about every type of radio in the city. He told me at least 20% of the VHF/low UHF background noise in Manhattan resulted from bugging various UN delegations and corporate entities and efforts to jam the bugs. He also said the FCC unsuccessfully tried to crackdown on the unlawful emissions but they couldn't do anything about the foreign governments and the corporation stuff was here today gone tomorrow or they had enough clout in Washington to derail any actions. I don't know how true this was but I had no reason to doubt him and many reasons to appreciate his expertise. Keep up the great videos and above all STAY SAFE! 🛥️❤️😷
My dad drove oil tankers through the Panama canal during WW2 but the biggest boat I ever drove was a 48' houseboat on lake Powell. I quickly learned that it was far easier, once I got it steering straight ahead, to make turns with the throttles. It didn't have a rudder indicator and the steering system had some slippage where 2 full turns of the wheel in one direction required 2-1/4 to 2-1/2 turns in the other direction to get it back straight again. My wake would look like I was driving drunk.
Love the tutorial as always Cap'n. As a young bluejacket sailor I recall hearing about the "prudential rule of navigation". I also recall our destroyer dodging small recreational craft in San Diego harbor. I think I know where your thoughts weregoing. In any case, I'll happily muster with you. CUTO
You're lucky that the docks are so solid to push off like that. Back in the 70's and 80's those very docks were pretty soft and unstable. You had the right plan and did very well to execute it. Love your ports of call, I recognize many.
Hi Tim. Like every job there are going to be issues that cause frustration. After a while you need to let off steam. Hopefully this has helped you in that respect. Meanwhile we get to see your peaceful trip down the river with the relaxing sound of the engines. From the title I got the impression you had run into something, or broken something, or alike. No, all is good. CUOTO.
The municipal tankers are, indeed, hauling only sludge. Apparently not every plant can process it, so they load it at the plants that don't have that ability and take it to the plants that do. Anchored off 79th, as we usually are when in the city, we see Red Hook come and go constantly to the plant just south of the GWB (which, believe it or not, has a state park on the roof). If you Google NYC Sludge Boats you'll get the whole skinny on them. Someday over a beer I'd like to hear your rant; I'm sorry I missed you by just a day in FLL. -- Sean on m/y Vector
Thank you very much for watching. Yes, maybe next time. I hope to be doing a bunch of meet ups and patron sails on my way up the coast this spring with SVP. CUOTO
I am pretty sure the Municipal tankers move only sludge, because as I understood that various plants around NYC treat it initially so much of the water in sewage is removed at those plants, and that water gets pumped back into the Harbor at those locations. The more concentrated sludge is carried to Sunken Meadows and, iirc, turned into composted pellets which are then either landfilled or sold as lawn fertilizer, never to be used on food because it will always contain heavy metals. And, Sunken Meadows is the only NYC location that is designed to dry the sludge enough, and I guess it cleans up water left in the sludge at the other plants. Back until the early 1990s, the sludge used to get pumped into a barge, which was towed out to sea, about 100 miles offshore, iirc, and dumped there. But, rhe law changed and that dumping was no longer allowed.
Awesome visuals transiting alongside the City. Your comments always appreciated of course. When I took my Power and Sail Squadron course they drilled it into our heads that Commercial traffic always has the right of way and/or whichever vessel is larger and/or weather you're under sail or not, all depending. But the classroom is not the ocean as I found out the sea can be an even better teacher......Much respect Tim, and safe travels!
Very very well said! That is exactly what I wanted to say, but couldn't get out. Classroom training is good and better than no training. But over time, out on the water, that's where the real training starts. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea 74 year old hawespiper- born into a seagoing family-retired my masters license a few years back. Classroom training has it's place especially with all the advances in technology, but the sea is what it has always been and there really is no substitute for learning it's lessons first hand.
Hi Tim, I am not presently a professional mariner but I did have papers once and worked on deck for Sea Land a long time ago. My interest has never waned. Today I am a serious recreational power boater (sometimes sail) and have been for over twenty years. As a tug captain your rant is easily validated. Licensed personnel are held to standards. For recreational boaters there is little accountability short of the rare minor Coast Guard intervention or an outcome ending in a negligence or manslaughter action. For me personally though, as a recreational boater, I pride myself in attempting to act with professionalism. When it comes to commercial traffic my role is simply to stay well clear and out of the way so as not to impact their operations in any way. That said, I too fume at the lunacy and ignorance of many of my fellow boaters. But it is not so simple as condemning all as a class. It is more about condemning idiots as idiots. The point of my own rant here is to point out that not all recreational boaters can be lumped into one bin. Doing so is disservice to many and to the maritime community at large. Your new alternative role as a sailboat skipper reinforces this. On a parting note, what a great resource you are providing and Kudos to your bosses and employer for allowing this to happen -- it benefits everyone tremendously.
Hey Tim. No need to apologize for the mini-rant. Your opinion is spot on. The past two years has seen an unprecedented amount of new boaters. Insurance claims are up more than 25% in 2020 and 2021. Far too many leisure boaters don't educate themselves before heading out on the water. I understand and echo your frustration..
Hey Tim don't hold back Speak your mind the folks of Yorkshire the namesake of New York are quite accustomed to plain speaking, loved the last ten minutes down the river at nearly dusk magic moments. I visited NYC once and had fixed feeling about the place but your opening up a whole new side of the city that's far more interesting than the tourist places cheers Tim
Hellgate rail bridge was built 16 years before Sydney Harbour Bridge. They look like twins. Different Architects but both spectacularly grand bridges. And both in busy port locations. Many thanks for the Visual Journey
The actual sister bridge is ovedr the Tyne in Newcastle UK. It was designed by the same civil engineer a few years before the Harbour bridge and they basically scaled up the design for Sydney and then built by the same company Sydney opening around four year after the Tyne one..
Sydney Bridge was started 12 months before the Gateshead though but took 8 years to build compared to the three years for the much smaller Newcastle bridge. Looks like a great design has always even copied, even before the Asian countries got in on the copying wrort!
I totally get your message. Every transportation industry has the same situation. Consider the railroad industry, where the drivers are asked at their first interview how they feel about being involved in a lethal train vehicle collision. It happens and there's nothing you can do about it so long as people continue to be stupid.
Thank you for watching Ed. I am not familiar with the term "small tug boatman". Does that mean the boat is small or you are short? 😂 Sorry. Dad joke. 😂 CUOTO
As an inland/rivers captain of push boats (intracoastal, lower Mississippi, Tenn/Tom..etc.) it’s super interesting to see how things are done up in New York👍. I have also worked quite extensively in Houston, Nola/Baton Rouge, St. Louis and Mobile harbors; I didn’t realize the tides/river currents were so swift in New York; that water looks as though it’s squirting through Hells gate pretty dang swiftly! I also had no idea how tight that was🤯! Nice boat driving and nothing wrong with a little captainly rant😉😂
Thanks for taking us along. Always interesting to get a view of the land from the water when you spend so much time doing the opposite. Much respect, sir for being able to navigate and keep everything straight. Safe travels.
Tim ... I'm fairly new to your channel(s) ... I had watched 47 of your videos and wondered what "things had gone terribly wrong" before watching this one. I was relieved to find it was just that you thought "discretion is the better part of valor" ... a good decision befitting your demeanor and wisdom. I for one find your content excellent. Stay safe. CUOTO
Funny thing, I paid my way through high school and college as a commercial fisherman in Alaska (no, I can't watch Deadliest catch). But, after graduation, I found I had to remove that experience from my resume as hiring managers looked at it very negatively, almost as if it was beneath them. I'm an an electrical professional engineer now, still missing being at sea regularly, and little do those folks know still use my time at sea, years later in this career. But noone knows about it unless we talk outside of work since that idiotic bias still exists.
Same thing, I do not put down on resume that I'm a Vet, They ( job ) think were all crazy and It's not a boost to getting a job.I loved crabbing and shrimping along the west coast. Still miss it but not enough for the wet and cold 24/7
Fortunately I learned a long time ago: the big boats are moving deceptively fast. I misjudged once in a Great Lakes turning basin. No damage, but, close
I just love a good rant. When you do a job professionally its so frustrating to listen to those who think they know the answers. When clearly they do not. It amazes me that sail boats still think they have the right of way over power when in constricted navigation waterways. They will often argue until they realise that if they hold the course they are on, then its gonna work out to their disadvantage.
@@TimBatSea Actually, to my knowledge, the rules of the road say, a draft constrained vessel has the right of way over a non draft constrained one. Also, on rivers in Germany, commercial traffic has the right of way over pleasure craft. (AFAIK) Basically, the rules just track physics in that respect.
@@realulli That's not exactly how the rules work over here. Constrained by draft has to be displayed (day shapes or lights) and only applies to a restricted waterway without the draft needed out side of the channel. So if your boat draws 2 meeters and mine draws 1.5 and the water depth outside the channel is 4 meters, constrained by draft does not apply. Thank you very much for watching and being a part of the discussion. CUOTO
Damn, I was so totally looking forward to the "Rant" you were heading for and you being the gentleman that you are called it off - I guess good for you.
Tim, You did the right thing..... Even though I agree with where you were going, You would have just stirred up a hornets nest! 🤣 Thanks for the ride! CUOTO😎👍⚓
Greatest respect for any commercial traffic, be it on the water or on the road. It's surprising that taking the foot off the gas and not laying on the horn can work wonders for a gal or guy on a rig loaded with food, medical supplies etc. etc. Now the water guys have some serious weight going there so a wide berth and what ever else they won't is not a problem. I for one can wait a few more minutes for that after docking beer or even better three of em. Stay safe out there Capt. Hey it's good to rant and get it off yer chest. YOU WON"T UPSET ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand your frustration with yachts. I'm the captain of a Norwegian trawler lady tug. I will give it any commercial boat wide berth and when I'm meeing one I always make a turn sharp enough, at least 45 degrees so they know my intentions. I moved my boat from Rhode Island to Florida and I met the nicest people on Sunday morning coming through New York that I met the whole trip. The nastiest people I met were in Georgia. Hope to buy you a cup someday Cap.
That's great! What a wonderful story and a trip I'd love to hear about over a coffee. Will you be returning to Rhode Island in the spring? My boat (see my other channel, SV Paquita) is in Puerto Rico but I will be sailing it back to Watch Hill RI where I live in the summer. Hope to see you out there. CUOTO
Sure looks similar the the Sydney Harbour bridge or "The Coathanger". We used to get the water treatment sludge barges dumping near our fishing grounds, not something to be downwind of, they were also known as honey barges.
Hey Captain Tim there’s nothing wrong with a video of just Boat sounds, those of us who have our boats on the beach for the winter can really appreciate watching you.
I've been in clinical medicine for 30 years, and I know what I know. I'm always surprised when experienced clinicians are annoyed by the comments or opinions of people who know less than them. Good for you for "un-plugging" as the rant intensified. From the title of this video, I thought you might finally be screwing something up...but no...you know what you're doing.
Thanks for the wonderful ride through Hell Gate. I have great deal of respect for tugboat captains! When I was a kid sixty years ago, my parents owned a 38 foot Elco (built in Bayonne NJ in 1929) and kept it near Albany on the Hudson. One summer we traveled up the Hudson to Lake Champlain but we got a late start northward. As night fell, we left the lock at Stillwater NY and got behind a tugboat pushing a barge (jet fuel for Plattsburgh or Burlington). We didn't want to pass him because of the dimly lit buoys (kerosene lanterns) that marked the narrow and twisty channel (and swimmers would frequently extinguish them ) in the Hudson River. So we followed a slow tug who was running search lights on both sides of the barge to find the buoys. When we got to Schuylerville and 2 hours later, the tug captain kindly illuminated the tricky entrance to the harbor for us. Thank you Mr. Tugboat Captain for the illumination. And thank you Capt. Tim for the continued illumination about important maritime issues!
Thank you very much for watching Charly and sharing such a wonderful memory. CUOTO
mom used two meet dad at Stillwater lock. dad worked that run from the 50s to the 60s. was the tug in front of you red?
These NYC trips never get old! Thanks and be safe!
Thank you for watching. CUOTO
Don’t hold back. Educate the masses with your real world working experience. It’s the only way people learn, from those that do 24/7. Thanks for the great entertaining videos!
Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO
Been boating for over 40 years and I have always had huge respect for tug boat captains. Would love to ride along with one someday.
Thank you for watching Charles. CUOTO
there is a tug called "W.O. Decker - South Street Seaport Museum. 1930 circa" she used to give rides. RECOMMEND IT IF YOU CAN GET A RIDE. i rode on her once. it was very interesting.
Hi I was in the RNXS in the UK before it was disbanded you saw all sorts of behaviour even from so called professionals. We had one " skipper" from the yachties who couldn't moor up for toffees it was painful watching him.
Love the history lessons and just general info on the industry as you pass them. Appreciate your work.
Thank you for watching George. CUOTO
When I was in grade 8 I remember filling out an aptitude test. It recommended I become a tugboat captain! Strong maths and reasoning skills. Well I found myself on a different path and became a refrigeration mechanic. My eldest brother became a civil engineer and when I was younger detested engineers. Rules this and rules that, however I learned to respect his profession the day I recognized that engineering is really about risk management. He strove to provide our society with the methods to ensure safety. But he was certainly amazed by my methodology in incorporating good engineering theory into practical application. You do a great job at what you do. The world has as many critics as mosquitoes it seems.
And you are a professional so you must have an academic streak in you!
Thank you very much for watching Kevin. You made me giggle remembering my highschool aptitude test recommendations... (I shouldn't out this out there. 😂) It said I should either be an airline steward (remember when they were called that?) or a hairdresser...... 😂 😂 😂 I was surprised they didn't also suggest show business... 😂 To funny. CUOTO
A couple of years ago as we were heading westbound towards the gate (on our way back from Maine to Albany) we listened in on a Beneteau arguing with a tug and barge that they had the right of way because they were constrained by draft lol. They got really angry at the tug on 16 until the NYPD stepped in, did the standard reminder of what 16 is for (first time I've heard the NYPD do that vs the coasties), and then told the Beneteau that they would pull them over for smoking crack if they actually thought they had stand on over the tug. My wife and I were laughing so hard listening to the whole exchange.
the rules i my country say that comercial ships are always the stand on, but they word it like big over small. after the comercial boats and ships come the sailboats unless the powered boat is fishing or other wize limited in their steering.
😂😂😂😂 Thank you very much for watching Chris. That may have been me they were arguing with. 😂 CUOTO
Thank you for watching Highkicker. CUOTO
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My take on your rant is - Rant away! We learn from you every time you open your mouth and speak and while I am truly impressed by your knowledge, your restraint indicates your wisdom! Thank you for your video's and as always, I/we are in your debt for sharing your life experiences.
Thank you very much for watching. I appreciate your kind words. CUOTO
I graduated from Kings Point and sailed deep sea for a while as a deck officer before I started to work ashore. (Wanted to stay married.) The yacht comment cracked me up. Nice channel and enjoyed the transit.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel Carl. CUOTO
Hi Tim, I understand your frustration. Some people fail to understand that the maritime industry is a business. And that moving many tons of hazardous cargo is serious business.
CUOTO
Thank you very much for watching and supporting the channel Bill. It does get frustrating at times. CUOTO
I honestly can share your frustrations? There will always be an expert somewhere. The rules are what makes things work most of the time, but not all the time. Rules help us predict behaviors, common sense generally keeps us alive..Fair winds captain! Thanks for sharing!
What I love best about this is you're steaming right by all the hustle of the city, you can hear the sirens and the cars and see the people, but just a few feet away, there is calm out on the water, slowly drifting by in your own world. CUOTO Tim!
Beautiful Casey! I love that. Thank you for watching. CUOTO
Really appreciate your channel! Former bosn/xpo on a Coast Guard construction tender out of Corpus Christi....you bring back lots of memories!
Bosn Chief sends
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Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel JB. CUOTO
I agree with your sentiments expressed. I'm a retired Naval Officer and all my working life was around ships from patrol boats to destroyers to tankers and aircraft carriers. Ship handling is something I'm fond of and proud of and, I used to delight in doing stern board alongside balancing the wind, tide, two engines and SOMETIMES the rudder. I think its like dancing ie you either got the rythm or you ain't? Ship handling is something you sense as one balances the momentum of the vessel and the forces acting upon it. Cheers
Thank you for watching Joseph. CUOTO
No a boater here Tim so watching you operate your tug is amazing. Had no idea all that is involved in your operation. Thanks for the great videos.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel Jack. CUOTO
Really enjoyed this one.
Looking forward to seeing the same trip in a brighter time of the day.
Thanks.
Thank you very much for watching and supporting the channel! I really appreciate it. CUOTO
I am new to boating, but had a big tug boat company as a client for a very long time. I always give you guys the ROW on the ICW. I love the videos!
Thank you for watching Tim and welcome to the channel. CUOTO
Tim, Ignore the .01% - you be you!! And a big THANK YOU for taking the time to share your day/nights with your videos.
Thank you very much for John. I appreciate that. CUOTO
On basically all yt channels are a tiny group of viewers knowing everything better than the content creator doing it for years and years professionally.
If you're based in the real world, this phenomenon may be hard to understand at first glance.
Since the beginning of the internet age, there was always someone with a keyboard and a grudge.
Those guys (mostly men) aren't looking for a topic-related fact-based discussion - they use the anonymity of the www to annoy people they wouldn't dare to in real life.
Therefore - don't worry to much about those people. I think it's best to ignore them - as ignorance is what they fear the most.
Enjoy sharing your line of work with 99,99% of your viewers who appreciate your effort to bring us great videos. Thanks for that!!
@@stanislavczebinski994 Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. CUOTO
@@TimBatSeaYou're welcome, mate.
Always glad I can help.
Tim your videos are great. Biggest mistake most UA-cam creators make is letting comments affect them. Please don’t be affected or infected by people who have no clue of which they speak. Stay safe and keep making these great journeys.
Thank you for watching. CUOTO
Tim, I am inclined to agree with you on your frustration in dealing with "yachtsmen". Very few "yachtsmen" are unaware that operating a tugboat is quite a bit different than operating a yacht. Different physical forces are at work for each. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for watching John. 👍👍 CUOTO
I’ve been leisure boating for 20 years now and it still amazes me the shear amount of water these boats push! Loved the stern view!
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. CUOTO
It's all good; don't sweat the abridged rant. Your channel, say what you want. Love hearing you talk and love hearing the engine and seeing the sites. It's all good for me.
Thank you very much! CUOTO
In a world that’s becoming increasingly sensitive about hurting someone’s feelings we all need to reflect on the fact that if we shut down vigorous debate we run the risk of curtailed progress and stalled improvement. It’s not negative to voice frustration provided it’s done in a non confrontational manner.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. I agree, but it doesn't make for good viewing. CUOTO
This former squid remains your avid subscriber.
Always educational & enjoyable! Thanks Capt!
Thank you for watching Charles and thank you for your service. CUOTO
Thanks for the ride Skipper! Last time I went through the gates was in the winter of 1980. I was one of the "Notorious" Puddle Pirates... on a 41' UTB.
I remember, one trip through... It was one of those seasonal ebb tide changes and the waters there in Hells Gate was like boating in a washing machine!
It was a fun ride on a "Toy Boat".
VTS is a truly amazing Organization. They were just upstairs of my Comm Center in Houston. It's like going into a CIC night or day, it was always dark and busy.
I... We....Many of us understand your "rant".
Being an operator of any vessel is a Serious Responsibility.
That is the issue.
Sadly, there are those that that just do not exercise courtesy nor common sense.
You know very well... Certification, Education, Training can not replace Experience!
I don't think any one person can know, or understand everything, ever!
Thank's again.
Thank you for watching Rodney. CUOTO
My Dad used to say "to knowledge have and wisdom lack, is a load of books on an asses back" People being book smart without the experience to apply the knowledge is a real problem these days. Great Channel, thank you from Alberta, Canada
That's a new one for me. I really like it! Thank you for watching. CUOTO
I appreciate you explaining what and why your doing whats needed to navigate in and out of port and docking. Been boating most of my life and find this fascinating watching captains dealing with such tonnage. Wish I was there!
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. CUOTO
Thanks for the explanation on how heading head against the tide for a barge provides improved steerage. When navigating my sailboat through Hell Gate I feel for the barge skipper when I have 5 knots in my favor. Watching your channel helps me improve my own skills.
That's great Paul. Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO
Good on you. We all get frustrated and say things. Having the ability to review what we said and then turn down the volume is something that we can all learn from. Hopefully you feel better that you got that rant off your chest!
Yes sir. Thank you for watching Michael. CUOTO
No isues here Tim. We all have stuff that we have to blow off steam about. My sense is that you're not a disrespectful person. You're just telling your story. Keep it up. I learn from each video you share with us.
Thank you very much John. I appreciate that. CUOTO
Fantastic video and channel. I spent over 20 years in the Navy and retired O-7 but all my career was in public affairs. Greatest respect for men like you who can actually do things on the water.
Thank you and welcome to the channel Marcello. Thank you for your service. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea I sailed a desk with CINCPAC at Pearl for most of my career. It’s the seamen, petty officers and master chiefs who run the Navy, we officers are glorified managers. I always made sure that the seamen and noncoms got the credit they deserved in press releases, community relation events, etc.
Tim: I would like to have heard what you were going to say. I'm a relatively new boater, about 7 years, and like to hear opinions and knowledge from people who have been around and dealt with all kinds of situations. It seems like common sense and respect for the other guy are about the best rules of thumb I have found that covers nearly every sitiuation I have encountered so far on the water. Of course the rule of tonnage is a good one too! Outside of the NY sights, learning from you is the reason I will happily continue watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for watching Earnest. That makes me very proud. CUOTO
Amatures that think they are professionals are a danger to themselves and others, and tend to resist learning enough to actually progress to a professional level of skills.
@@mmi16 agreed. Very true
I’m amazed! Love watching and listening to all of your maritime stuff. Loving it Thank You Doug! You are incredible.
Thank you for watching Mariana. CUOTO
New subscriber just came across your channel. As a sailor on a 34 foot boat out of Port Washington NY, I have a greater appreciation for your visibility and having sailed through the gate several times I’m pleasantly surprised at you’re maneuverability pulling away from that dock. appreciate you sharing this video in stories. Good rant, btw. Sometimes it has to be said.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. Please consider subscribing. I trying to post new content every Tuesday. You may also like my other channel, SV Paquita. I sailed my 42 foot boat down to Puerto Rico and will soon be sailing it back up north. CUOTO
Such a flow of life metaphor wisdom negotiating with Ma Nature. Massive respect!
Thank you very much. Your kind words are very much appreciated. CUOTO
Great video Mr Tim! I’m wrapping up a career as a commercial pilot, hopefully I can make it another 5 years, but now that aviation doesn’t rule my life I find myself fascinated with other profession. Thank you for taking the time to produce your videos.
Thank you very much for watching Kirk. Enjoy your time. You may one day mis it. CUOTO
I love your confidence but also respect for the machinery and the forces of nature. You make this look so easy, im still getting very stressed maneuvering a 50 footer
Thank you for watching. CUOTO
As someone who's water life only extends to my 17ft walleye boat I will say I always feel its my responsibility to stay completely out of the way of any working vessel and try to figure out what they want and need me to do. Not what I want them to do. Us pleasure boat users need to better understand what our actions on the water should be. I have been in some crazy situations chasing fish but always listen and take advice of the true real captains to stay safe.. Love your videos and find them very relaxing and interesting. Glad you put the time and energy into this channel for all of us to enjoy. We will try to stay clear of you bow sir haha.
Thank you very much. I appreciate that. CUOTO
Here in Wisconsin if you where born after Jan 1 1989 you need to take a boater safety course but even taking that I still do not believe I could do your job as much as I would love to do a "ride along" you channel is the next best thing.
Thank you Joe. I didn't know about that law 8n Wisconsin. CUOTO
Good Morning Tim, Thank you for taking us on the ride thru the Gate. I would love to ride along again thru the Gate with YOU calling out all of the scenery. I have lived some frustration with other "boaters" while working on clam and oyster boats in the Long Island Sound. In the biker community there is a saying, "fifteen grand and fifteen miles don't make you a biker" same goes for boats of all kinds. There is a saying in the commercial fishing community, "A little knowledge is dangerous" and that goes for nearly every profession. I respect you cutting out anything that you might feel was negative, it is your channel, and you should only release what you feel is acceptable. Your videos are great, they show us things we may have never seen, they give us a view into a world that we otherwise may have never known, they give us a better understanding of what tug capts go thru, and they teach us the good, the bad, the what-to-do and what-NOT-to-do around your tow. Keep up the amazing content. Wishing you a fair wind, calm seas, and slack tide every time you need it. CUOTO.
Thank you very much for watching and for the kind words! CUOTO
My new favorite channel. Spent 15 years in NY watching you guys do your work with fascination. Wish I had your channel then but great to learn your side now. SHould be required watch for all aspiring tug captains. Kudos. Big fan.
Thank you very much for watching. I appreciate that. CUOTO
Capt. Tim: Another great video. Thank you for letting us ride along with you. Saturday morning coffee with Capt. Tim, what a great way to start the day. One of the reasons I started teaching sailing/boating is that I recognized the need for education of the boating public. Teaching for Tradewinds Sailing School on SFO Bay I tough the required class objectives but included how the commercial marine industry works and how best to not get in their way. Even if we might have the rules on our side they should consider the hazards to all in pushing their "rights". At the end of class they fully understood how VTS works and how to communicate on Ch. 13 with commercial traffic. They got a good dose on using maritime language such as "I intend on hugging the red side." Your videos are a great source of education to the boating public and at least one video will be played in the classroom portion of our classes with your web link passed along to them. Thank you... capt bill
That's great Bill! Thank you very much! Without trying to get to cranky, I would like to point out how so many other countries have educational requirements for anyone wanting to buy a boat. It sounds like you are teaching some of the things I wish more people knew. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea Some states now require a boating class starting with the young and working up. This is ludicrous . Make it mandatory for ALL boaters to get licensed. Through a volunteer organization I've tough some of these boater licensing classes and people are basically given the answers for the license test. Or they can go online and take the test with an open book. There is minimal learning that takes place here. In addition to my Master's License I hold a Commercial pilot's license and as you know a person has to learn the subject to pass the test. Why not boating? I just want boaters to be safe and have a good understanding of the maritime environment and thus have more fun on the water.
Dead right poem.
Here lies the body of George O'Day. He died maintaining his right of way. He was right, dead right as he rode along, But he is just as dead as if he were wrong.
@@masterful7574 Well said!!
Ranting and raving, natural as.Kiaora,from Aotearoa Tim,I never imagined your city to so beautiful.
Thank you Ralph. I really appreciate that. CUOTO
A great lesson in physics, as you left dock. It was interesting to watch the maneuver pulling away and rotating the barge at the same time. Looks easy, until you take into account the mass and velocity as you go, then transition easily into forward motion. Great video.
Thank you very much for watching Dennis. If you are new to the channel, Welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
"... before things go Terribly wrong..." I'm not sure you stopped quite soon enough for some people... lol
Great scenery and it's really cool to hear your perspective on the whole operation, from the basic mechanics of how to get the boat and barge to move how you need it to in a situation, all the way up to the politics and business of the water.
Thank you very much for watching Mathew. CUOTO
Don't know anything about being a captain but you make it look easy thanks for the ride and education looks like the best way to see that darn town is on your tug 😅 si if I don't know much it might not mean much but awesome job
Two things I suspect may be behind your silent frustration:
- When you're taught a marine skill, you learn ONE way that should always work. Keeps the teaching simple, makes exams easy to set, starts you off on the right track. Over time, in particular places and circumstances, people evolve to use different ways - because for them they're right. With experience and understanding of why the 'one way' was chosen, you realise other ways are sometimes both safe and better. We have the same in scuba diving - I teach the 'one way', but sometimes in some places we'll agreed to use a different method
- Big vessels have so much inertia and 'sail area' that handling them is quite different - you're thinking a minute or two ahead for how your barge need to be moving - even using full engine power. Leisure vessels are much more nimble - and we don't always realise
PS - love the 'ghost ship' on your starboard at 29:18 🙂
Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO
Surprise, you're human and somethings get under your skin. I admire you for making the decision to do your editing and continuing on. Thank you enjoyed the trip.
Thank you very much Paul. CUOTO
Nice to see you reduce your wake for that gravel barge! As far as your rant goes I was thinking of common sense and experience that was building up in my mind, nuff said. Thanks for the ride! Best Regards, Jay
Thank you very much for watching Jay. CUOTO
Shucks was looking forward to the rant. Not so much for the rant as much as it was something I could learn from. You have a balanced perspective Tim. I am a recreational boater that tries to learn as much as I can about the commercial side. Respect that you shut it down when you did...
Thank you for watching. Discretion can be the better part of valor. CUOTO
Tim: Please always say what's on your mind. No apologies! I boated on the Hudson, around Manhattan, through Hell Gate for 18 years, Saw plenty of crazy boating incidents, gave several tows, searched for drowning victims, etc. And every July 4 was extra insane!
Thank you again for watching James. CUOTO
Thank you for your videos. I often watch “Cab ride” videos from the cabs of trains. This is similar and it has a lot more to see!
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. CUOTO
Hi Tim, your channel is much appreciated by me and by a lot of viewers, and I would like to thank you for your generosity in allowing us to share your love for what you do. I always find that "small" minds talk small, in other words, they have their rut and they are sticking to it, no matter what. I have not found a valid way to deal with this issue, but if I ignore it, it tends to lose power over time. You do such a fantastic job with these videos that it really surprises me that there are viewers that pick on them and you; that is just a sign of our times I guess, entitlement seems so pervasive. Sorry about my rant jaja! With much gratitude CUOTO
Thank you for watching and a big thank you for your kind words. They are much appreciated. CUOTO
I always love watching how you handle that ship.
Thank you very much for watching George. CUOTO
Tim I understand the frustration. I know the difficulty in balancing your words when it may offend a few. I am not as subtle. For those so sensitive and so enamored with their alleged knowledge of maritime, I have a finger and it is the middle one. I have extensive experience in San Francisco Bay and later in inland navigation. In both commercial traffic was a fact of life. In SF, the club sneered with their interpretation of the rules of the road. Folks, reading Chapmans does not prepare you for reality. The real rule is channels, physics, and gross tonnage, I was later part of a sailing club on the Tennessee River that understood. We routed all of our events away from the channel avoiding commercial traffic. We also pounded home the reality of right of way beyond the BS most boaters believe. In all of the regatta briefings we were reminded to stand down when a towboat was coming. To never believe you can beat them across the channel, and to never start out directly behind until a few minutes passed after their passing. Doing so once made me understand all I needed to know about aircraft wake turbulence which is no different in boating. Boating is a great experience and recreational boaters need to grasp their limits when their mortality is involved..
Thank you very much Henry. Very well said! And spot on. Thank you. CUOTO
😂😂😂😂 Thank you very much for watching Mark. Have you seen my video, The unwritten law of tonnage? CUOTO
@@TimBatSea I will check that out. The sailboat wasn't even sailing; it was under power; flat water, no wind, check cleared. Yoiks!
The thing is that "right of way" isn't even a thing in the COLREGS. They don't say "you can do whatever you want and other people have to lump it" - it's stand on and give way, which means basically "you keep doing what you are doing in a consistent and predictable manner" and "you alter course to avoid that vessel who is behaving in a consistent and predictable manner so you can figure out how to avoid them." It's literally just specifying that only one vessel should be making a significant course correction to avoid vessels both trying to change course and turning into each other. Like you know the little dance people end up doing sometimes when they meet in a doorway or something? "You go" "No you go" etc? It's to avoid the boat version of that. (Only since people stop better than boats do, the boat version usually leads to someone sinking.)
It does not absolve either vessel of responsibility for a collision, either, because if you get close and the give way vessel has not given way, it is the job of the stand on vessel to adjust course AT THAT POINT to avoid hitting the other vessel. So they can't just go merrily along and expect everyone to just get out of their way, as some recreational boaters like to do. The COLREGs literally don't say to do that.
Tim, I love your videos. I appreciate how you explain everything and talk to the camera all of the time. It is awesome content!
Thank you very much for the kind words. CUOTO
Back in the 1980's I was a frequent NYC visitor to work on various types of communications equipment. I met a guy with decades of experience doing installation and maintenance on just about every type of radio in the city. He told me at least 20% of the VHF/low UHF background noise in Manhattan resulted from bugging various UN delegations and corporate entities and efforts to jam the bugs. He also said the FCC unsuccessfully tried to crackdown on the unlawful emissions but they couldn't do anything about the foreign governments and the corporation stuff was here today gone tomorrow or they had enough clout in Washington to derail any actions. I don't know how true this was but I had no reason to doubt him and many reasons to appreciate his expertise.
Keep up the great videos and above all STAY SAFE! 🛥️❤️😷
Wow! Awesome story and info George! Thank you very much for watching and sharing. CUOTO
Sometimes there realy is a conspiricy.
Nice!
A lot of folks don't know when to just dial it down! Good Jobbie!
Thank you very much for watching and understanding Henri. CUOTO
My dad drove oil tankers through the Panama canal during WW2 but the biggest boat I ever drove was a 48' houseboat on lake Powell. I quickly learned that it was far easier, once I got it steering straight ahead, to make turns with the throttles. It didn't have a rudder indicator and the steering system had some slippage where 2 full turns of the wheel in one direction required 2-1/4 to 2-1/2 turns in the other direction to get it back straight again. My wake would look like I was driving drunk.
Thank you for watching Josh. That sounds like s hand full. CUOTO
Another great video Capt. Tim. No worries about the rant. Would love to hear it in full some day.
Thank you for watching David. I'm working on it. 😂 CUOTO
Love the tutorial as always Cap'n. As a young bluejacket sailor I recall hearing about the "prudential rule of navigation". I also recall our destroyer dodging small recreational craft in San Diego harbor. I think I know where your thoughts weregoing. In any case, I'll happily muster with you. CUTO
Thank you very much for watching John. CUOTO
You're lucky that the docks are so solid to push off like that. Back in the 70's and 80's those very docks were pretty soft and unstable.
You had the right plan and did very well to execute it. Love your ports of call, I recognize many.
Thank you for watching David. We can't do that on every dock. CUOTO
Hi Tim. Like every job there are going to be issues that cause frustration. After a while you need to let off steam. Hopefully this has helped you in that respect. Meanwhile we get to see your peaceful trip down the river with the relaxing sound of the engines. From the title I got the impression you had run into something, or broken something, or alike. No, all is good. CUOTO.
Thank you for watching Dave. The title was really about me going wrong and not the boat. CUOTO
Thank you again for sharing your trips. Cool to follow along!
Thank you for watching Roger. CUOTO
The municipal tankers are, indeed, hauling only sludge. Apparently not every plant can process it, so they load it at the plants that don't have that ability and take it to the plants that do. Anchored off 79th, as we usually are when in the city, we see Red Hook come and go constantly to the plant just south of the GWB (which, believe it or not, has a state park on the roof). If you Google NYC Sludge Boats you'll get the whole skinny on them. Someday over a beer I'd like to hear your rant; I'm sorry I missed you by just a day in FLL. -- Sean on m/y Vector
That’s called the North River Waste Water Treatment Plant one of the busiest in the North East
Happy Sailing 😂
Thank you very much for watching. Yes, maybe next time. I hope to be doing a bunch of meet ups and patron sails on my way up the coast this spring with SVP. CUOTO
Great info! Thank you for watching and sharing. CUOTO
I am pretty sure the Municipal tankers move only sludge, because as I understood that various plants around NYC treat it initially so much of the water in sewage is removed at those plants, and that water gets pumped back into the Harbor at those locations. The more concentrated sludge is carried to Sunken Meadows and, iirc, turned into composted pellets which are then either landfilled or sold as lawn fertilizer, never to be used on food because it will always contain heavy metals. And, Sunken Meadows is the only NYC location that is designed to dry the sludge enough, and I guess it cleans up water left in the sludge at the other plants.
Back until the early 1990s, the sludge used to get pumped into a barge, which was towed out to sea, about 100 miles offshore, iirc, and dumped there. But, rhe law changed and that dumping was no longer allowed.
@@danmc7815 wow! Great info Dan. Thank you very very much. CUOTO
Capt Tim, love the videos. Love the sound of the 3516s purring away, better than Melatonin to put me to sleep. Miss my tug boating days!
Thank you for watching Peter. If you are new to the channel, Welcome. Please consider subscribing. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
Awesome visuals transiting alongside the City. Your comments always appreciated of course. When I took my Power and Sail Squadron course they drilled it into our heads that Commercial traffic always has the right of way and/or whichever vessel is larger and/or weather you're under sail or not, all depending. But the classroom is not the ocean as I found out the sea can be an even better teacher......Much respect Tim, and safe travels!
Very very well said! That is exactly what I wanted to say, but couldn't get out. Classroom training is good and better than no training. But over time, out on the water, that's where the real training starts. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea
74 year old hawespiper- born into a seagoing family-retired my masters license a few years back. Classroom training has it's place especially with all the advances in technology, but the sea is what it has always been and there really is no substitute for learning it's lessons first hand.
Tim, understand you editing the “rant”. Love the channel, keep up the great work. Cheers from New Zealand.
Thank you very much for watching James. CUOTO
Capt is Multitasking part of your credentials. It should be.
😂. I just did a video where I talked about multitasking. (I can't walk and chew gum at the same time). Thank you again for watching. CUOTO
Tim. Your wisdom is a shining light to the rest of us.
Say no more Pal. Say no more.
Thank you very much for watching Michael. CUOTO
Hi Tim,
I am not presently a professional mariner but I did have papers once and worked on deck for Sea Land a long time ago. My interest has never waned. Today I am a serious recreational power boater (sometimes sail) and have been for over twenty years. As a tug captain your rant is easily validated. Licensed personnel are held to standards. For recreational boaters there is little accountability short of the rare minor Coast Guard intervention or an outcome ending in a negligence or manslaughter action. For me personally though, as a recreational boater, I pride myself in attempting to act with professionalism. When it comes to commercial traffic my role is simply to stay well clear and out of the way so as not to impact their operations in any way. That said, I too fume at the lunacy and ignorance of many of my fellow boaters. But it is not so simple as condemning all as a class. It is more about condemning idiots as idiots. The point of my own rant here is to point out that not all recreational boaters can be lumped into one bin. Doing so is disservice to many and to the maritime community at large. Your new alternative role as a sailboat skipper reinforces this. On a parting note, what a great resource you are providing and Kudos to your bosses and employer for allowing this to happen -- it benefits everyone tremendously.
Thank you very. Perfectly said! CUOTO
Tacking....Tacking....Tacking....Tacking!
Hey Tim. No need to apologize for the mini-rant. Your opinion is spot on. The past two years has seen an unprecedented amount of new boaters. Insurance claims are up more than 25% in 2020 and 2021. Far too many leisure boaters don't educate themselves before heading out on the water. I understand and echo your frustration..
Thank you for watching. I appreciate your words. CUOTO
Hey Tim don't hold back Speak your mind the folks of Yorkshire the namesake of New York are quite accustomed to plain speaking, loved the last ten minutes down the river at nearly dusk magic moments. I visited NYC once and had fixed feeling about the place but your opening up a whole new side of the city that's far more interesting than the tourist places cheers Tim
Thank you very much for watching Charlie. I hope you come back and see the city from the water. CUOTO
Another great adventure thanks . Smooth undocking, always staying safe.
Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO
Hellgate rail bridge was built 16 years before Sydney Harbour Bridge. They look like twins. Different Architects but both spectacularly grand bridges. And both in busy port locations.
Many thanks for the Visual Journey
😂😂😂😂😂 I love this channel for getting info from the viewers like this! Thank you very very much Kim. That is awesome and settles the debate. CUOTO
That's awesome. There is also a bridge in Norway that is very similar. Greetings from Tasmania!
The actual sister bridge is ovedr the Tyne in Newcastle UK. It was designed by the same civil engineer a few years before the Harbour bridge and they basically scaled up the design for Sydney and then built by the same company Sydney opening around four year after the Tyne one..
@@gideonewers1786 😀 did not know that. Thanks for the info!
Sydney Bridge was started 12 months before the Gateshead though but took 8 years to build compared to the three years for the much smaller Newcastle bridge. Looks like a great design has always even copied, even before the Asian countries got in on the copying wrort!
Thanks Capt. for a cool video! Keep them coming sir!
Thank you for watching Rusty. CUOTO
I totally get your message. Every transportation industry has the same situation. Consider the railroad industry, where the drivers are asked at their first interview how they feel about being involved in a lethal train vehicle collision. It happens and there's nothing you can do about it so long as people continue to be stupid.
Thank you for watching Richard. CUOTO
Funny i was a commodore of a yacht club for one year,,Also a small Tug boatman for 35 years keep up the good work Capt .
Thank you for watching Ed. I am not familiar with the term "small tug boatman". Does that mean the boat is small or you are short? 😂 Sorry. Dad joke. 😂 CUOTO
As an inland/rivers captain of push boats (intracoastal, lower Mississippi, Tenn/Tom..etc.) it’s super interesting to see how things are done up in New York👍. I have also worked quite extensively in Houston, Nola/Baton Rouge, St. Louis and Mobile harbors; I didn’t realize the tides/river currents were so swift in New York; that water looks as though it’s squirting through Hells gate pretty dang swiftly! I also had no idea how tight that was🤯! Nice boat driving and nothing wrong with a little captainly rant😉😂
Thank you again for watching Robert. The tide can run at 5.5kts or more at times through the gate. Be safe, and I'll CUOTO
Thanks for taking us along. Always interesting to get a view of the land from the water when you spend so much time doing the opposite. Much respect, sir for being able to navigate and keep everything straight. Safe travels.
Thank you very much for watching and welcome to the channel. CUOTO
Ha ha good save Tim, love your vlogs,. Here in Nz you just need a cheque that doesn't bounce too, but our Coastguard have great educational courses 😉
Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO
Tim ... I'm fairly new to your channel(s) ... I had watched 47 of your videos and wondered what "things had gone terribly wrong" before watching this one. I was relieved to find it was just that you thought "discretion is the better part of valor" ... a good decision befitting your demeanor and wisdom.
I for one find your content excellent. Stay safe. CUOTO
Thank you very much George! I appreciate that. What went wrong was me going off the rails on a rant that I really shouldn't be. CUOTO
Funny thing, I paid my way through high school and college as a commercial fisherman in Alaska (no, I can't watch Deadliest catch). But, after graduation, I found I had to remove that experience from my resume as hiring managers looked at it very negatively, almost as if it was beneath them. I'm an an electrical professional engineer now, still missing being at sea regularly, and little do those folks know still use my time at sea, years later in this career. But noone knows about it unless we talk outside of work since that idiotic bias still exists.
Yes, unfortunately that is true. Thank you for watching. CUOTO
Same thing, I do not put down on resume that I'm a Vet, They ( job ) think were all crazy and It's not a boost to getting a job.I loved crabbing and shrimping along the west coast. Still miss it but not enough for the wet and cold 24/7
Well played keeping it classy! Always enjoy the videos!
Thank you for watching Kevin. CUOTO
Passing under the Sydney harbour bridge on a ferry is one of my favourite things
Thank you for watching Denford. CUOTO
Thanks again Tim for a very fine video / trip.
Thank you for watching Jord. CUOTO
Thank you for watching Jord. CUOTO
Fortunately I learned a long time ago: the big boats are moving deceptively fast. I misjudged once in a Great Lakes turning basin. No damage, but, close
Thank you for watching Jeff. It does happen. I'm glad you came out ok. CUOTO
Love your videos , I was an over the road truck driver for years, I would to be able to ride along on a trip . I find your job very interesting.
Thank you for watching Daryl. Unfortunately the Coast Guard Does not let us have visitors or passengers. CUOTO
I just love a good rant. When you do a job professionally its so frustrating to listen to those who think they know the answers. When clearly they do not. It amazes me that sail boats still think they have the right of way over power when in constricted navigation waterways. They will often argue until they realise that if they hold the course they are on, then its gonna work out to their disadvantage.
Thank you for watching Anthony. The laws of physics trump the rules of the road. CUOTO
@@TimBatSea Actually, to my knowledge, the rules of the road say, a draft constrained vessel has the right of way over a non draft constrained one. Also, on rivers in Germany, commercial traffic has the right of way over pleasure craft. (AFAIK)
Basically, the rules just track physics in that respect.
@@realulli That's not exactly how the rules work over here. Constrained by draft has to be displayed (day shapes or lights) and only applies to a restricted waterway without the draft needed out side of the channel. So if your boat draws 2 meeters and mine draws 1.5 and the water depth outside the channel is 4 meters, constrained by draft does not apply. Thank you very much for watching and being a part of the discussion. CUOTO
Damn, I was so totally looking forward to the "Rant" you were heading for and you being the gentleman that you are called it off - I guess good for you.
😂😂😂 Thank you very much for watching Joseph. CUOTO
Tim, You did the right thing..... Even though I agree with where you were going, You would have just stirred up a hornets nest! 🤣 Thanks for the ride! CUOTO😎👍⚓
Thank you Rick! CUOTO
I enjoyed that, thank you. Have a whole new perspective of New York; never thought of how it looks from its waterways.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. Please consider subscribing if you haven't already. I try to post new content every Tuesday. CUOTO
Greatest respect for any commercial traffic, be it on the water or on the road. It's surprising that taking the foot off the gas and not laying on the horn can work wonders for a gal or guy on a rig loaded with food, medical supplies etc. etc. Now the water guys have some serious weight going there so a wide berth and what ever else they won't is not a problem. I for one can wait a few more minutes for that after docking beer or even better three of em.
Stay safe out there Capt. Hey it's good to rant and get it off yer chest. YOU WON"T UPSET ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you very much! CUOTO
I understand your frustration with yachts. I'm the captain of a Norwegian trawler lady tug. I will give it any commercial boat wide berth and when I'm meeing one I always make a turn sharp enough, at least 45 degrees so they know my intentions. I moved my boat from Rhode Island to Florida and I met the nicest people on Sunday morning coming through New York that I met the whole trip. The nastiest people I met were in Georgia. Hope to buy you a cup someday Cap.
That's great! What a wonderful story and a trip I'd love to hear about over a coffee. Will you be returning to Rhode Island in the spring? My boat (see my other channel, SV Paquita) is in Puerto Rico but I will be sailing it back to Watch Hill RI where I live in the summer. Hope to see you out there. CUOTO
Another great vlog, thanks for keeping the channel positive, there is more than enough negativity in the world right now. CUOTO.
Agreed! Thank you for watching Paul. CUOTO
Aww man!!! I read that title and thought we were gonna see some expert maneuvering on the high seas, narrowly avoiding impending disaster!
Oh no. Just me failing to maneuver out of a bad rant. 😂 Thank you for watching. CUOTO
No, Impending Disaster was the boat I ran, back in the day, after I got fired from m/v Cirrhosis of the River.
Sure looks similar the the Sydney Harbour bridge or "The Coathanger". We used to get the water treatment sludge barges dumping near our fishing grounds, not something to be downwind of, they were also known as honey barges.
Thank you for watching Roger. CUOTO
Hey Captain Tim there’s nothing wrong with a video of just Boat sounds, those of us who have our boats on the beach for the winter can really appreciate watching you.
Thank you very much Jeffrey. I appreciate that. CUOTO
Hey that’s me and my barge!!
Ah, hell, Andy! Now you're famous and we all have to curtsy whenever you fart!!! 😀
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Thank you for watching Andy. CUOTO
Always a good show!
nice views feels like a tour of the area on the water thank you tim excellent
Thank you for watching James. CUOTO
I've been in clinical medicine for 30 years, and I know what I know. I'm always surprised when experienced clinicians are annoyed by the comments or opinions of people who know less than them. Good for you for "un-plugging" as the rant intensified. From the title of this video, I thought you might finally be screwing something up...but no...you know what you're doing.
Thank you very much Doc! I appreciate that very much. CUOTO
I like a man that knows his limits. Have a good day Capt
Thank you very much. CUOTO
Thank you very much. CUOTO