1:00:25 "So was Jesus an animal?" No. And that is exactly the point Professor. ANIMAL Korban is mandated, HUMAN sacrifice is forbidden. It's that simple.
I think William destroyed the professor’s thesis in his first intervention. Something as important as eternal punishment would not have been hidden. “Hashem is not going to set a booby trap and hope we fall into it.”
@Iyas kelu in no way did I understand William to say the quote from the Hebrew Bible was about Jesus. That would make no sense. It was a quote to prove a point.
The fact is Tanakh states loud and clear that Hashem WILL set a booby trap (stumblingblock) hoping those who deserve to fall into it will as clearly evident from the plain meaning of the prophecies like these: *"the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers. Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them."* (Jeremiah 11:10) *I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.* (Jeremiah 6:19) *I will lay stumblingblocks (booby traps) before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.* (Jeremiah 6:21) God will indeed bring EVIL upon those many people who reject the Most Holy Messiah and God will even bring EVIL upon the fruit of their THOUGHTS by blinding their spiritual eyes. Why? Because the pride of their heart has deceived them so their blindness is of their making. One example of booby trap set by God is Isaiah 7: God purposely placed the virgin birth prophecy of Isaiah 7:14 in close proximity to the Ahaz account so that those who want to be deceived could use this as an opportunity to deny the truth and double down on their rejection of the true Messiah who is GOD coming in human form to dwell WITH US. As such, they become a self-fulfilling prophecy: *"Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed."* (Isaiah 6:10)
Another example of booby trap is found in Zechariah 13: God places a prophecy about the Messiah Shepherd who is God's companion (second person of the Trinity, see Psalm 110) in close proximity to the prophecy about false prophets so that those who want to be deceived fall into it. *_"And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow COMPANION/ANOTHER/NEIGHBOUR (seated at the right hand), saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones."_*
Sometimes, they are very trying! But we know that the original Hebrew scriptures have nothing to do with the Christian's beliefs. The One True Creator G_d warned us about Christianity thousands of years ago.
1 Timothy 1:8 We know that the Law is good if one uses it lawfully. Galatians 3:24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith
@@cynthiahunter2570 Devarim (Deuteronomy) 6: 1This is the commandment, the statutes, and the ordinances that the Lord, your God, commanded to teach you, to perform in the land into which you are about to pass, to possess it. אוְזֹ֣את הַמִּצְוָ֗ה הַֽחֻקִּים֙ וְהַמִּשְׁפָּטִ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּ֛ה יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֖ם לְלַמֵּ֣ד אֶתְכֶ֑ם לַֽעֲשׂ֣וֹת בָּאָ֔רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַתֶּ֛ם עֹֽבְרִ֥ים שָׁ֖מָּה לְרִשְׁתָּֽהּ: 2In order that you fear the Lord, your God, to keep all His statutes and His commandments that I command you, you, your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life, and in order that your days may be lengthened. בלְמַ֨עַן תִּירָ֜א אֶת־יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֗יךָ לִ֠שְׁמֹ֠ר אֶת־כָּל־חֻקֹּתָ֣יו וּמִצְוֹתָיו֘ אֲשֶׁ֣ר אָֽנֹכִ֣י מְצַוֶּ֒ךָ֒ אַתָּה֙ וּבִנְךָ֣ וּבֶן־בִּנְךָ֔ כֹּ֖ל יְמֵ֣י חַיֶּ֑יךָ וּלְמַ֖עַן יַֽאֲרִכֻ֥ן יָמֶֽיךָ: 3And you shall, [therefore,] hearken, O Israel, and be sure to perform, so that it will be good for you, and so that you may increase exceedingly, just as the Lord, the God of your fathers, spoke to you, a land flowing with milk and honey. גוְשָֽׁמַעְתָּ֤ יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ וְשָֽׁמַרְתָּ֣ לַֽעֲשׂ֔וֹת אֲשֶׁר֙ יִיטַ֣ב לְךָ֔ וַֽאֲשֶׁ֥ר תִּרְבּ֖וּן מְאֹ֑ד כַּֽאֲשֶׁר֩ דִּבֶּ֨ר יְהֹוָ֜ה אֱלֹהֵ֤י אֲבֹתֶ֨יךָ֙ לָ֔ךְ אֶ֛רֶץ זָבַ֥ת חָלָ֖ב וּדְבָֽשׁ: 4Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one. דשְׁמַ֖ע יִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵ֖ינוּ יְהֹוָ֥ה | אֶחָֽד: 5And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means. הוְאָ֣הַבְתָּ֔ אֵ֖ת יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֑יךָ בְּכָל־לְבָֽבְךָ֥ וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁךָ֖ וּבְכָל־מְאֹדֶֽךָ: 6And these words, which I command you this day, shall be upon your heart. ווְהָי֞וּ הַדְּבָרִ֣ים הָאֵ֗לֶּה אֲשֶׁ֨ר אָֽנֹכִ֧י מְצַוְּךָ֛ הַיּ֖וֹם עַל־לְבָבֶֽךָ: 7And you shall teach them to your sons and speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk on the way, and when you lie down and when you rise up. זוְשִׁנַּנְתָּ֣ם לְבָנֶ֔יךָ וְדִבַּרְתָּ֖ בָּ֑ם בְּשִׁבְתְּךָ֤ בְּבֵיתֶ֨ךָ֙ וּבְלֶכְתְּךָ֣ בַדֶּ֔רֶךְ וּבְשָׁכְבְּךָ֖ וּבְקוּמֶֽךָ: 8And you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand, and they shall be for ornaments between your eyes. חוּקְשַׁרְתָּ֥ם לְא֖וֹת עַל־יָדֶ֑ךָ וְהָי֥וּ לְטֹֽטָפֹ֖ת בֵּ֥ין עֵינֶֽיךָ: 9And you shall inscribe them upon the doorposts of your house and upon your gates. טוּכְתַבְתָּ֛ם עַל־מְזֻז֥וֹת בֵּיתֶ֖ךָ וּבִשְׁעָרֶֽיךָ: 10And it will be, when the Lord, your God, brings you to the land He swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give you, great and good cities that you did not build, יוְהָיָ֞ה כִּֽי־יְבִֽיאֲךָ֣ | יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֗יךָ אֶל־הָאָ֜רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֨ר נִשְׁבַּ֧ע לַֽאֲבֹתֶ֛יךָ לְאַבְרָהָ֛ם לְיִצְחָ֥ק וּלְיַֽעֲקֹ֖ב לָ֣תֶת לָ֑ךְ עָרִ֛ים גְּדֹלֹ֥ת וְטֹבֹ֖ת אֲשֶׁ֥ר לֹֽא־בָנִֽיתָ: 11and houses full of all good things that you did not fill, and hewn cisterns that you did not hew, vineyards and olive trees that you did not plant, and you will eat and be satisfied. יאוּבָ֨תִּ֜ים מְלֵאִ֣ים כָּל־טוּב֘ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹֽא־מִלֵּ֒אתָ֒ וּבֹרֹ֤ת חֲצוּבִים֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹֽא־חָצַ֔בְתָּ כְּרָמִ֥ים וְזֵיתִ֖ים אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹֽא־נָטָ֑עְתָּ וְאָֽכַלְתָּ֖ וְשָׂבָֽעְתָּ: 12Beware, lest you forget the Lord, Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. יבהִשָּׁ֣מֶר לְךָ֔ פֶּן־תִּשְׁכַּ֖ח אֶת־יְהֹוָ֑ה אֲשֶׁ֧ר הוֹצִֽיאֲךָ֛ מֵאֶ֥רֶץ מִצְרַ֖יִם מִבֵּ֥ית עֲבָדִֽים: 13You shall fear the Lord, your God, worship Him, and swear by His name. יגאֶת־יְהֹוָ֧ה אֱלֹהֶ֛יךָ תִּירָ֖א וְאֹת֣וֹ תַֽעֲבֹ֑ד וּבִשְׁמ֖וֹ תִּשָּׁבֵֽעַ: 14Do not go after other gods, of the gods of the peoples who are around you. ידלֹ֣א תֵֽלְכ֔וּן אַֽחֲרֵ֖י אֱלֹהִ֣ים אֲחֵרִ֑ים מֵֽאֱלֹהֵי֙ הָֽעַמִּ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֖ר סְבִיבֽוֹתֵיכֶֽם: 15For the Lord, your God, is a zealous God among you, lest the wrath of the Lord, your God, be kindled against you, and destroy you off the face of the earth. טוכִּ֣י אֵ֥ל קַנָּ֛א יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֶ֖יךָ בְּקִרְבֶּ֑ךָ פֶּן־יֶֽ֠חֱרֶ֠ה אַף־יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֨יךָ֙ בָּ֔ךְ וְהִשְׁמִ֣ידְךָ֔ מֵעַ֖ל פְּנֵ֥י הָֽאֲדָמָֽה: 16You shall not try the Lord, your God, as you tried Him in Massah. טזלֹ֣א תְנַסּ֔וּ אֶת־יְהֹוָ֖ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֑ם כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֥ר נִסִּיתֶ֖ם בַּמַּסָּֽה: 17Diligently keep the commandments of the Lord, your God, and His testimonies. and His statutes, which He has commanded you. יזשָׁמ֣וֹר תִּשְׁמְר֔וּן אֶת־מִצְוֹ֖ת יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֑ם וְעֵֽדֹתָ֥יו וְחֻקָּ֖יו אֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽךְ: 18And you shall do what is proper and good in the eyes of the Lord, in order that it may be well with you, and that you may come and possess the good land which the Lord swore to your forefathers, יחוְעָשִׂ֛יתָ הַיָּשָׁ֥ר וְהַטּ֖וֹב בְּעֵינֵ֣י יְהֹוָ֑ה לְמַ֨עַן֙ יִ֣יטַב לָ֔ךְ וּבָ֗אתָ וְיָֽרַשְׁתָּ֙ אֶת־הָאָ֣רֶץ הַטֹּבָ֔ה אֲשֶׁר־נִשְׁבַּ֥ע יְהֹוָ֖ה לַֽאֲבֹתֶֽיךָ: 19to drive out all your enemies from before you, as the Lord has spoken. יטלַֽהֲדֹ֥ף אֶת־כָּל־אֹֽיְבֶ֖יךָ מִפָּנֶ֑יךָ כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֖ר דִּבֶּ֥ר יְהֹוָֽה: 20If your son asks you in time to come, saying, "What are the testimonies, the statutes, and the ordinances, which the Lord our God has commanded you?" ככִּֽי־יִשְׁאָֽלְךָ֥ בִנְךָ֛ מָחָ֖ר לֵאמֹ֑ר מָ֣ה הָֽעֵדֹ֗ת וְהַֽחֻקִּים֙ וְהַמִּשְׁפָּטִ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּ֛ה יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵ֖ינוּ אֶתְכֶֽם: 21You shall say to your son, "We were slaves to Pharaoh in Egypt, and the Lord took us out of Egypt with a strong hand. כאוְאָֽמַרְתָּ֣ לְבִנְךָ֔ עֲבָדִ֛ים הָיִ֥ינוּ לְפַרְעֹ֖ה בְּמִצְרָ֑יִם וַיֹּֽצִיאֵ֧נוּ יְהֹוָ֛ה מִמִּצְרַ֖יִם בְּיָ֥ד חֲזָקָֽה: 22And the Lord gave signs and wonders, great and terrible, upon Egypt, upon Pharaoh, and upon all his household, before our eyes. כבוַיִּתֵּ֣ן יְהֹוָ֡ה אוֹתֹ֣ת וּ֠מֹֽפְתִ֠ים גְּדֹלִ֨ים וְרָעִ֧ים | בְּמִצְרַ֛יִם בְּפַרְעֹ֥ה וּבְכָל־בֵּית֖וֹ לְעֵינֵֽינוּ: 23And he brought us out of there, in order that He might bring us and give us the land which He swore to our fathers. כגוְאוֹתָ֖נוּ הוֹצִ֣יא מִשָּׁ֑ם לְמַ֨עַן֙ הָבִ֣יא אֹתָ֔נוּ לָ֤תֶת לָ֨נוּ֙ אֶת־הָאָ֔רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר נִשְׁבַּ֖ע לַֽאֲבֹתֵֽינוּ: 24And the Lord commanded us to perform all these statutes, to fear the Lord, our God, for our good all the days, to keep us alive, as of this day. כדוַיְצַוֵּ֣נוּ יְהֹוָ֗ה לַֽעֲשׂוֹת֙ אֶת־כָּל־הַֽחֻקִּ֣ים הָאֵ֔לֶּה לְיִרְאָ֖ה אֶת־יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֵ֑ינוּ לְט֥וֹב לָ֨נוּ֙ כָּל־הַיָּמִ֔ים לְחַיֹּתֵ֖נוּ כְּהַיּ֥וֹם הַזֶּֽה: 25And it will be for our merit that we keep to observe all these commandments before the Lord, our God, as He has commanded us." כהוּצְדָקָ֖ה תִּֽהְיֶה־לָּ֑נוּ כִּֽי־נִשְׁמֹ֨ר לַֽעֲשׂ֜וֹת אֶת־כָּל־הַמִּצְוָ֣ה הַזֹּ֗את לִפְנֵ֛י יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵ֖ינוּ כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽנוּ:
@@cynthiahunter2570 Christianity lacks common sense! The One True Creator G_d who created all of the Cosmos and everything in it doesn't need any middleman to forgive anyone of their sins! The One True Creator G_d has said this from the very beginning! Bereshit (Genesis) 4: 3Now it came to pass at the end of days, that Cain brought of the fruit of the soil an offering to the Lord. גוַיְהִ֖י מִקֵּ֣ץ יָמִ֑ים וַיָּבֵ֨א קַ֜יִן מִפְּרִ֧י הָֽאֲדָמָ֛ה מִנְחָ֖ה לַֽיהֹוָֽה: 4And Abel he too brought of the firstborn of his flocks and of their fattest, and the Lord turned to Abel and to his offering. דוְהֶ֨בֶל הֵבִ֥יא גַם־ה֛וּא מִבְּכֹר֥וֹת צֹאנ֖וֹ וּמֵֽחֶלְבֵהֶ֑ן וַיִּ֣שַׁע יְהֹוָ֔ה אֶל־הֶ֖בֶל וְאֶל־מִנְחָתֽוֹ: 5But to Cain and to his offering He did not turn, and it annoyed Cain exceedingly, and his countenance fell. הוְאֶל־קַ֥יִן וְאֶל־מִנְחָת֖וֹ לֹ֣א שָׁעָ֑ה וַיִּ֤חַר לְקַ֨יִן֙ מְאֹ֔ד וַיִּפְּל֖וּ פָּנָֽיו: 6And the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you annoyed, and why has your countenance fallen? ווַיֹּ֥אמֶר יְהֹוָ֖ה אֶל־קָ֑יִן לָ֚מָּה חָ֣רָה לָ֔ךְ וְלָ֖מָּה נָֽפְל֥וּ פָנֶֽיךָ: 7Is it not so that if you improve, it will be forgiven you? If you do not improve, however, at the entrance, sin is lying, and to you is its longing, but you can rule over it." זהֲל֤וֹא אִם־תֵּיטִיב֙ שְׂאֵ֔ת וְאִם֙ לֹ֣א תֵיטִ֔יב לַפֶּ֖תַח חַטָּ֣את רֹבֵ֑ץ וְאֵלֶ֨יךָ֙ תְּשׁ֣וּקָת֔וֹ וְאַתָּ֖ה תִּמְשָׁל־בּֽוֹ: *** See!!! No so-called "Jesus " is ever needed!!! Never has been!!! Never will be!!! The One True Creator G_d forbids 🚫 human sacrifice! It is an abomination!!! The One True Creator G_d specifically said in no uncertain terms that NO One can die for the sins of another! You and you alone are responsible for your own actions! Yechezkel (Ezekiel) 18: 20The soul that sins, it shall die; a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. כהַנֶּ֥פֶשׁ הַֽחֹטֵ֖את הִ֣יא תָמ֑וּת בֵּ֞ן לֹֽא־יִשָּׂ֣א | בַּֽעֲוֹ֣ן הָאָ֗ב וְאָב֙ לֹ֚א יִשָּׂא֙ בַּֽעֲוֹ֣ן הַבֵּ֔ן צִדְקַ֚ת הַצַּדִּיק֙ עָלָ֣יו תִּֽהְיֶ֔ה וְרִשְׁעַ֥ת הָֽרָשָׁ֖ע (כתיב רָשָׁ֖ע) עָלָ֥יו תִּֽהְיֶֽה: 21 And if the wicked man repent of all his sins that he has committed and keeps all My laws and executes justice and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die. כאוְהָֽרָשָׁ֗ע כִּ֚י יָשׁוּב֙ מִכָּל־חַטֹּאתָיו֙ (כתיב חַטֹּאתָו֙) אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂ֔ה וְשָׁמַר֙ אֶת־כָּל־חֻקּוֹתַ֔י וְעָשָׂ֥ה מִשְׁפָּ֖ט וּצְדָקָ֑ה חָיֹ֥ה יִחְיֶ֖ה לֹ֥א יָמֽוּת: 22All his transgressions that he has committed shall not be remembered regarding him: through his righteousness that he has done he shall live. כבכָּל־פְּשָׁעָיו֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂ֔ה לֹ֥א יִזָּֽכְר֖וּ ל֑וֹ בְּצִדְקָת֥וֹ אֲשֶׁר־עָשָׂ֖ה יִֽחְיֶֽה: 23Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live? כגהֶֽחָפֹ֚ץ אֶחְפֹּץ֙ מ֣וֹת רָשָׁ֔ע נְאֻ֖ם אֲדֹנָ֣י יֱהֹוִ֑ה הֲל֛וֹא בְּשׁוּב֥וֹ מִדְּרָכָ֖יו (כתיב מִדְּרָכָ֖ו) וְחָיָֽה: *** See!!! Still No so-called "Jesus " is ever needed!!! Never has been!!! Never will be!!! The One True Creator G_d forbids 🚫 Adultery!!! But Christians want people to believe that G_d got another man's wife pregnant just like Zeus used to run around doing. Christianity is a lie! Christianity adopted way too many idolatrous and pagan beliefs contrary to what The One True Creator G_d actually said. We follow the instructions of the One True Creator G_d!!! Not the lies of Christianity.
@@cynthiahunter2570: You need to realize, research, and accept, that NOWHERE did God ever mention the "Jesus" character to us, NOWHERE did He tell us that we need to be "saved", and NOWHERE did He tell us that He requires HUMAN BLOOD (a purely pagan ritual that God ABHORS!!) as atonement for our sins. NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mt. Sinai, therefore, Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God! PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Tovia Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God.
@Sonia 1. A human sacrifice is an abomination to G-d 2. Vicarious atonement is not taught in Tanakh 3. Jesus was not a lamb, goat, bull or a bird 4. A sacrifice need to stay dead and the fat burned. 5. There is no sacrifice for intentional sins. Daniel is taking about 4 nations that are like beasts [wicked] and 1 nation that is like a man [not wicked]. This man is the messiah that represents the nation of Israel. if you read the below passages you will understand that Daniel 7 has nothing to do with Jesus. Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under all the heavens *will be given to the people of the high holy ones* its kingdom is a perpetual kingdom, and all dominions will serve and obey [it]."
@Iyas kelu So did Jesus commit suicide? Why? He cannot die for others right? Vicarious atonement is not taught in Tanakh. Why blame Jews for killing Jesus if this was the will of god and Jesus committed suicide? There are a lot of events where leaders in Israel made mistakes. Jephthah is one such case. What passage tells you that a. G-d wanted the sacrifice? b. that G-d accepted the sacrifice? If you read the whole chapter you will see that Jephthah was a son of a concubine and was not a religious person. He made a mistake and Tanakh records it so we can learn from it. Had he been religious or sought advise when his daughter was the one he had to sacrifice, he would have been able to save his daughter.
@Iyas kelu You and I interacted on this question a few months ago and I gave you a detail explnation. Not sure why you keep bringing up the same question over and over. That said, I will not waste my time to explain but will give you the gist of intentional sins. See if G-d's ways make sense to you 1. Certain intentional sins like murder will be punished with death 2. Certain intentional sins like theft will be punished with return of the item + fine 3. Certain intentional sins like denying the Torah will be punished with being cut off from Israel. This means the person is all on his own and will be done away by any other community that finds him. This also means he loses his land, identity as G-d's people..... 4. For the rest of the intentional sins one repents. 5. For all sins [intentional + unintentional] repentance & turning to G-d is key Last but not least, a lot of stringent criteria was needed for punishing one through #1.
@@janishart5128 Correct. Jesus is the end of the law for righteousness (Romans 10:4) by fulfilling it for this dispensation (Matthew 5:17). It was one entire legal system (James 2:10-11) that was made not kosher through transgressions. You can no longer call yourself righteous by offering the correct sacrifices, showing up to the Temple at a festival, etc. Righteousness is according to your faith. Breaking faith is sin. Righteousness does not come by doing commandments you agreed to do at Mt. Sinai (Exodus 19:8). - Deuteronomy 32:50-51 - Genesis 15:6 - Numbers 5:6 - 1 Samuel 26:23-25 - Joshua 7:1 - 1 Chronicles 2:7 - 1 Chronicles 5:25 - Habbakuk 2:4 - Ezra 10:10 - Hebrews 11 The Dead Sea Scrolls are dated before Christianity but affirmed the Hebrew Bible had not been tampered with. This means Paul and churches were prophesied in Jewish writings before Jesus was born.
Professor R. L. Solberg made a statement early on, between 16:31 to 16:57, that is completely incorrect. He stated that the LXX was a Greek translation of the Hebrew bible. This is not correct, it was only a translation of the Torah - 5 books of Moses and not the entire Tanakh. Further, he stated that the LXX was created because there were so many Jewish people who were no longer speaking Hebrew. This is also not correct. According to the story recorded in the Letter of Aristeas to Philocrates that 5 books of Moses were translated into the Greek language at the request of Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285-247 BCE) by seventy-two Jewish translators-six from each of the Twelve Tribes of Israel. According to the Talmud it was considered a bay time when the Torah was translated into Greek since it was considered that the Torah could not be fully translated into another language. Lastly, most Jewish communities historically have no contact or even used the LXX let alone most Jewish communiites throughout the Middle East, Africa, and Asia never used Greek as a written or spoken language. During the 2nd Temple period many of the Jews living in Israel knew Aramaic, not Greek. Thus, a rule was created for reading the Torah (twice in Hebrew and once in Aramaic).
Wow! I never expected an episode like this! Simply wow! I'm getting my popcorn 🍿 and soda. Outstanding offering. Nice job putting this together. Looking forward to watching.
@@gardenoflifefinearts7177 Do tell us all what is so funny. I must have missed that part. I did enjoy Solberg getting a healthy dose of biblical reality. Maybe you didn't.
@Wow 613 He really is boring. And there's no defense of Christianity that holds water. It's simply a seudo Greco-Roman religion with tinges of judaism. It's garbage.
The Professor like a true Christian stretches the Torah every which way to make it look Christological. In less than 10 minutes I was out. Oh! I am going to watch the movie again, maybe I will see JC this time
The Tanakh is intrinsically Christological and it is the other side as true followers of the rabbis that's guilty of stretching the Torah every which way to make it look non-Christological.
@@janishart5128 God repeatedly revealed to us in his Word that the Lord God of Israel aka the Arm of the Lord will BECOME SALVATION (Yeshua Jesus) by coming in the flesh as God's servant and a MAN of war in order to provide atonement for his people. *"The Lord is my strength and song, and he shall BECOME (הָיָה) my SALVATION (יְשׁוּעָה Yeshua Jesus): he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him. The Lord is a MAN of war: the Lord is his name."* (Exodus 15:2-3) *"And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, to BECOME (הָיָה) my SALVATION (יְשׁוּעָה Yeshua Jesus) unto the end of the earth."* (Isaiah 49:6) *"Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the ARM of the Lord revealed? For he (the ARM of the Lord ) shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him."* (Isaiah 53) Consequently, those who reject God's Servant (the Arm of the Lord who becomes Yeshua Jesus) will perish in fiery Gehenna: *"Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you shall perish."* (Isaiah 41:11) Mark my words when you get there.
@Sonia Why do that when we can show that it’s missionaries and the NT that are obsessed with demons? Mark 5, Matt 8, and Luke 8 can’t even fig out if the story involves 1 or 2 demon-possessed men. Why do that when we can expose Ephesians 6 which introduces YOUR god, satan. That’s who you worship, ascribing to him powers that the One True G-d of Israel never gave him. Stop projecting YOUR sins onto the Jews! Learn YOUR own scripture before coming here to lecture others about G-d’s perfect Torah! Stop trying to poison the minds of those seeking the truth!
Reverend Jesse Duplantis says looking at John F. Kennedy 10 year's younger: Hey john! Hey john! How were you able to become younger without having to be resurrected?!
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this content. Love how it's respectfully done. I went to the Jews bc it broke my heart that good people who rejected Jesus would face the same punishment as evil people. I wanted to find out WHY Jews were not terrified for rejecting Jesus. I know WHY now and it makes so much more sense than Christianity. Judaism is truly inclusive while Christianity is truly exclusive. Thank you, Gentlemen for pointing out the difference. :o)
Tanakh has the answer as to WHY the Jews rejected the Lord of hosts Jesus: *"Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread. And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken."* *"Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed."* And yes, all they that strive with the Messiah Son of God Jesus shall perish. *"Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him."*
@@Mercy_AIR Jesus is never mentioned in the Jewish holy scriptures and you think it would as xtianity claims New Testament is based on the Jewish holy scriptures.
@TheChristianLife Isaiah 2:4 states messiah rebukes the nations which cause them to return to g-d and they turn all their weapons to farming tools and no longer learn of war.
@TheChristianLife I don’t rely on the jps as that is a xtian translation which is still a mistranslation. And it was an angel as malach means messenger and the three men were messengers not a trinity or Jesus. Each had a job to do which one was to heal Abraham because he just had been circumcised and what are the other two assigned to do?
@Wow 613 lol...yeah i think they found a time machine built by the atlantians under the ice just last week so now they can go back and stop the death of their cheeseus!! 🤣🤣🤣 Bigfoot showed them where it was hiding!!!
I thought it was very fitting that the professor used the movie six sense as an example to explain xtian logic. I mean how can Bruce Willis not realize that he is dead? No one interacts with him except this one boy. Does he ever go to the store and buy something and need change back? He never bumps into someone and they freak out because he is invisible? He never notices that everyone must be ignoring him? He’s able to move objects around but people don’t see them moving by themselves? I know it’s just a movie and it isn’t real and not meant to be taken seriously but that’s my point. He’s using something that couldn’t be real in order to prove something is real. It’s so silly.
@@janishart5128 Exactly! Both Hollywood producers and NT authors always have big gaping holes in their stories. Bruce Willis doesn’t confront his wife on why she never comes to him to show she is happy that he didn’t die. Of course nobody witnesses jman rising from the dead. His stage crew very likely pulled him off the cross in secret. We can thank the Greco-Roman world for all these theatrics. We have been mesmerized by the make believe yet it doesn’t compare to the rich, life altering, true stories of the Tanakh.
@@janishart5128 Lol you’re funny but it’s true. Film makers know how to provide an escape from reality which would be ok, though I think it’s become something we depend on. Like we start ignoring how the real world works and start living in a fantasy. Such as using movies that can’t be real to depict the truth like this professor does or thinking biblical movies are accurate then learning and accepting their mistakes because listening to a teacher or opening up an instructional book is not satisfying enough. Got to say though Tenak Talk entertains me plenty. Especially the comment section! And it’s always good to see you here friend.
If you sin then you are in idolatry and only God the savior can save you.David was righteous because of the works of God and not by any work he did.When it comes to salvation God gets ALL the glory .No one seeks God no not one and no one is good but God.Jesus is the good shepherd that saves his people by the sending forth of his word..
@@Spartanthermopylae It is only by the mercy of God that we can come to truth and I hope that by bringing the word that god can save some.May god bless you and your loved ones.
@Sonia I’m not Jewish and if it is written than it occurred when the temple was standing and it doesn’t matter if you like it it is what g-d said to do. You and New Testament and xtian opinion does not matter. My opinion does not matter. Only what HaShem said matters and he doesn’t care if you don’t like what he commanded.
I agree with you C main. And who are we to argue with scriptures that were given to the Jewish people written in Hebrew! I don’t read or write Spanish and surely wouldn’t try to translate a holy book, written in Spanish, and say I know better! Or any other book, and any other language for that matter.
Does Rob realize the lamb was a god of Egypt, and by saying Jesus is the lamb of God then that god has to be a god of Egypt, and a question I asked Rob where does God say I will send my son to die for our sins against God, and by the way I will be my son, and you can kill me, and I will, forgive the sins of man, now and for all time, I have looked all through the old testament and I can't find it, he would probably say I have been blinded to the truth, And God said his laws were forever so who gave Paul permission to go against the words of God, I would love to hear Rob's answer to that.
@@janishart5128 Hi Janice I hope you are in good health, and it is good to hear from you, I try to explain to people to Christians about Isaac not being sacrificed, and the ram was, but I must be speaking a language they don't understand, because they don't listen, it is like Isaiah 7:14 I tell them if the virgin they talk about gave birth in the time of Isaiah, then Jesus isn't all that special because another virgin beat Mary to it, also they don't read the verses before or after 14 and miss the whole point, but all you and I can do is keep telling them the truth, and hope they study TANAKH, and learn from the words of G-d, and throw their Christian bibles out, keep up your good work, I am one of the people who give you the thumbs up when I see your posts I enjoy reading what you write, because it is truth straight from your heart and I will keep looking for your name and I know I will enjoy reading your answers to to our Christian friends, even if we only save one from Idolatry, it will be worth it, may Hashem bless you and keep you safe my friend.
I don’t think he knows this as I attended catholic school from pre-k through 12 and church on sundays and not once is this taught, the lamb was an Egyptian idol.
@@janishart5128 Thanks Janis, and I feel for you with your knees, my wife has the same problem bone on bone, and some days she can't get around, I hope that one day they can fix it without having to operate, so I will pray for you and all the people with the same thing that they will find a lasting cure, because constant pain is a truly terrible thing, and may Hashem continue to bless you as well.
I’m sorry to enter this conversation so long after it was aired but of all the mistakes this man has made on behalf of all Christians, the biggest one he made was to refer to the Septuigent as Tanakh. Tell him that he is totally wrong. The 72 rabbis and sages, 6 from each of the 12 tribes equaling 72, hence Septuagint, ONLY translated the Torah. Now then, that being the only Greek translation of Hebrew language at the time was totally lost when the Library of Alexandria was burned to the ground by Rome. “The” Septuagint was lost never to be replaced. Everything in the new “Septuagint” was done under duress. These rabbis did not want to translate the “Tanakh” at all. This man is preaching his Christian nonsense to try and strengthen the myth about his messiah. So number one Mr. Jesus didn’t have a human father whose lineage could be traced back to King David. No. Joseph adopting him didn’t work either. Sorry. Your Jesus story is lacking in so many ways.
@Sonia I already answered this question which you posted in another video. How come you didn’t reply but ask it again to someone else? You saw that you couldn’t deceive me so you are trying to deceive somebody else. You are a bad faith actor. Sending the scapegoat serves as an atonement for the Sanctuary. As of now we don’t have a sanctuary so we cannot send a scapegoat. The scapegoat sent out to Azazel is a place in the wilderness, not a demon. That’s just an interpretation based on xtian dualism. Also the scapegoat has been atoned for so it doesn’t “bear” sins. The other goat is designated for Hashem which gets slaughtered to cleanse the Sanctuary, altar and defilements of the Jewish people so they can enter the Sanctuary. “Bearing” the sins is another false view xtians have when the Tanakh is talking about sin. Read the text in Leviticus 16 for yourself. You are changing the word of God. So actually it is the Jews that are on the right path and you are on the path of intentionally deceiving others. How disgusting.
@@BiblicalEarth Yes, apparently some people confuse indulging in their own neuroses with being on the right path. 😏😏 It’s her M.O. But personally I’d like to thank her for showing this channel’s visitors how she, of her own accord, links her man-god with demons and evil spirits.
@@garymichaels719 I hear what you’re saying and I actually have thanked her before for her inability to refute any evidence against her defense for xtianity and how she just bounces into another bogus claim which just makes her argument weaker and that the likelihood of any xtians reading it who are on the fence may now question their faith. Although she is not just ignoring the evidence and moving onto another wrong idea that she has but she is seeing if someone else will fall for her deceptive questions instead that have already been shown to her as lies since she makes no attempt to refute it. This is disgusting and I can’t be thankful for that because it is clear that she doesn’t care about being wrong and will continue to recite what she knows to be wrong to make others believe it is right. I can have respect for confused xtians but not bad faith actors.
@Sonia read for yourself. Your eyes will be open. Its sad that you jave been deceived. But you can turn from idolatry and blasphemy. Our Creator just wants a relationship with each of us. He doesn't want us to love, fear and obey any fictional characters. All Xtianty has managed to do is keep people from having a relationship with the Most High, Blessed is His Name. He tests people. Xtians have fallen for idolatry and blasphemy. Best wishes on your continued study of Holy Text. You will see the Truth, if you open your heart to G.d and not anyone else.
Psalm 146:3 Do not put your trust in the son of man, in whom there is no salvation. It doesn’t matter which son of man the Tanakh refers to, even the positive ones because salvation comes from Hashem alone. He is our only savior. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the Lord, and besides Me there is no savior. Jeezman can’t save you.
The Biblical Truth Jesus provides atonement for transgressors as prophesied (Isaiah 53:12 -> Hebrews 7:25). This is the Melchizedkian priesthood (Psalm 110:4 -> Hebrews 6:20). The long period of time Israel would spend without the Levitical priesthood (Hosea 3:4).
@@johnmann8659 Regarding Isaiah 53:12... until I see the moshiach and the righteous remnant of Israel allotted their portion in public and share their plunder with the strong then this verse has not been fulfilled. Your jman did not accomplish this so he is clearly not the moshiach. Reread the verse again. Hosea 3:4... yes because we don’t have the temple at this time. Look at the last chapters in Ezekiel and you will see that the temple will return to the Jewish people.
@@BiblicalEarth Isaiah 53 is not talking about the nation of Israel. A third party atones for the nation’s sins (Isaiah 53:8). Party 1 = Isaiah (the Author) Party 2 = Isaiah’s people (my people = Israel) Party 3 = Is stricken for the transgressions of Isaiah’s people (party 2). The New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-33) was prophesied to provide atonement (Ezekiel 16:59-63) after the Old Covenant was broken (Deuteronomy 31:16 -> Jeremiah 11:10). The New Covenant also would have been given at some point after Israel returned from Babylon (Jeremiah 50:1-5).
@@johnmann8659 In Isaiah 41:8 HASHEM CALLS ISRAEL HIS SERVANT then in 42:1 He says, behold my servant, I will support him. Notice “HIM” is singular yet MY SERVANT MEANS ISRAEL. In chapter 53 it says with his knowledge my servant would vindicate the just for many. The whole chapter is about His servant Israel. In Jeremiah 31 Hashem says what will happen when He gives the new covenant. No longer will anyone teach each other who Hashem is and their sin will no longer be remembered. This obviously has not happened yet so the new covenant couldn’t of possible been given. Stop altering the word of the Most High.
@@BiblicalEarth -The servants in Isaiah can be Israel (Isaiah 41:8), Jesus (Isaiah 53) or Isaiah himself (Isaiah 20:3). - Correct. Jesus was the inspiration for Christianity. The vehicle for every nation to learn about the Jewish Messiah and receive atonement for their sins via faith. Isaiah 53:11 -> Matthew 28:19 -> Matthew 24:14 The nations will be his inheritance (Psalm 2:6-12, Revelation 12:5). -Correct. Their sin is no longer remembered in Jeremiah 31 because the New Covenant atoned for the nation’s previous sins (Ezekiel 16:59-63).
I came across something interesting in my morning reading today! In John 9, Jesus heals a man born blind on the Sabbath, and the religious authorities end up kicking that man out of the synagogue. "Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” He answered, “And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?” Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.” (John 9:35-37). So here is Jesus once again claiming to be the Son of Man. If the prevailing first-century Jewish understanding of the phrase "Son of Man" was as negative as you assert, William, how would we expect that man to respond to Jesus' claim? He would turn and run for the hills! But that's not what he does. Instead, "He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him" (John 9:38). Jesus uses the phrase "Son of Man" in a reference to the second divine figure in Daniel 7:13, and His fellow Jews understood it that way. Blessings, Rob
They were in a tizzy since only the Messiah could heal a man BORN blind. This is why they got his parents to come and testify. It was believed that a righteous man could heal someone who was blind (not born blind, just blind).
When was John written? Wasn't that the Gospel that added the most, it was different than the "synoptic" gospels. John wasn't even talking to Jews at this point, it was a Greek speaking gentile audience.
The mother never hired the psychologist (Willis) . The viewer just ASSUMED she did. Watch the film again. This apologist ASSUMES too much. When you remove the TEXT from the CONTEXT you are left only with a CON. This apologist is a CONman.
Bottom line is. God is extremely intentional with his words in Tanakh, but when it comes to Jesus, we humans need an entirely new book to explain that Jesus was in Tanakh the entire time. Christianity is so deceptive.
James Martin A New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-33) that provides atonement (Ezekiel 16:59-63) means new instructions must be provided (a New Testament). The Old Covenant was broken. - Deuteronomy 31:16 -> Jeremiah 11:10
Who doesnt' want to see what? Now would do I want to see a God who made a hell or one who did not. OF COURSE I DON"T WANT TO SEE THAT GOD. Obvioulsy, I don't want anyone to suffer like that. If it can be proven or I can be convinced or awakened or my heart brought to it, fine. It' sure seems like a sad horrific idea though. Horrific.
The bit at 15 mins was gold bro, you can literally see the "oh no hes right" look on the Christian guys face when you said there is no scripture in tenach about the saviour dying after being dead 3 days and resurrected and dying for our sins
@Sonia None of that matters - God never commanded the ways of sacrifice, God clearly states it came from the evil hearts ,and imaginations of men. - proof 21Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh. 22For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: 23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. 24But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward. 25Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt unto this day I have even sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them: 26Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers. 27Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee. 28But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth. 29Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath. 30For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it. 31And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
Christianity depends and claims the legitimacy of the Tenak but the Tenak is not dependent on the NT. So we can use atheist argument to refute NT but Christians should never do likewise against Tebak.
No, you can't because you are still obligated to fairness and you have to apply the same level: Leviticus 19 (vv. 35-37): “You shall not falsify measures of length, weight, or capacity. You shall have an honest balance, honest weights, an honest ephah , and an honest hin . I the LORD am your God who freed you from the land of Egypt. You shall faithfully observe My laws and all My rules: I am the LORD ”
@@alexanderharder1000 The way that I see it, in the same way that someone can use a counterfeit bill detector pen manufactured by any legitimate *business* to spot phony *government* currency, non-religious sources (or even the lack thereof) can absolutely be used to spot phony religious articles or texts. While I don’t agree at all with atheist ideology, I do comprehend that NOT EVERYTHING they say is illogical or without merit. For example, I find the facts that jesus is not purported to have written anything himself, that there is a dearth of material by any contemporaries of jesus which mention him, and that the NT itself didn’t appear until 5 decades after Jesus’s alleged death on a cross quite compelling evidence that any religion with him as an object of worship was later contrived. Besides, after many months of exchanging scriptures with missionaries online it’s become quite clear that scripture is of only secondary importance to them. No matter how well I (or anyone else I’ve seen, for that matter) support my/their beliefs with scripture and no matter how I relate my experiences regarding my 3 decades in the church missionaries mostly ignore the scripture and other religious texts offered by myself/my fellow Jews and Noachides. As a result, for the most part my modus operandi regarding this channel’s comments section has evolved *FROM* mostly quoting scripture *TO* mostly pointing out the ignorance and deceptive tactics of missionaries-more an exercise in psychology than a ‘religious’ pursuit. This comment you’re currently reading is a prime example. I mean why would I continue to quote the last 2 verses of Psalm 147 when it’s clear that missionaries either ignore it or are incapable of comprehending it’s very simple language?!
25:20 @wil'Liam has been talking for I guess five minutes about the Psalm that says, "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no salvation. The day he dies, his thoughts perish." He then makes a point I thought was amazing, "Along comes a man who supposedly knew everything the Tanakh says concerning "the or a son of man," and explicitly says NOT to put trust in him nor trust in his ability to save anyone, and he chooses that exact expression to call himself, and then expects Israel to ignore the Biblical textual warnings, but trust in his salvation after all! The Christian theology is so twisted that their god gave laws, tells man they must follow them or be punished, then disappointedly finds out they are simply too hard for anyone to follow, so he has to kill himself as a sacrifice to himself to be able to repeal all the laws that were too hard for anybody to keep, but to also wipe away all the sins of everybody who had fallen victim of a law that was unjust from the start. So the Christian god doesn't know the future, or overestimates mankind's ability to follow instructions, even though he created the laws and the people with both in mind before putting pen to paper in the first place. The Christian god is just but merciless, and needs to be bought off the be able to look the other way at all the people's sins. Who needs this kind of a god?!
Excellent Reasoning. Ezekiel 18 is Clear Expectations From GOD Almighty. Unless GOD dies , which we know He is The Only Eternal One that gives life , what is written in Ezekiel 18 will never change .
@@janishart5128 Janis !!! thank you and always a pleasure to hear from you. Hope all is well with you and yours. Yes, Torah is beautiful and G-d's gift to us. I thank Hashem for his chosen people who are the light unto the world. I've learned so much and am so grateful. Hopefully, we'll cross paths during a live Tenak Talk. See you then. :o)
If you do it again, I hope Dr. Solberg understands the point you were making in the context of his "sixth sense" analogy. Looking backwards, he showed some tenuous connections that could be drawn on top of original meanings within Tanakh to support the story of Christians. You were also saying that looking back, the words of Psalms could be much more clearly understood as a warning against following Jesus on top of the original meaning. For some reason, Dr. Solberg simply said that the Psalms didn't originally intend to refer to Jesus as the son of man. But you don't disagree with that. It is an important issue that I would love to hear him address.
Meaning he was saying that his resurrection wasn't a spiritual resurrection but a physical resurrection which if that's the same with other people if their physical bodies are to be resurrected what about those that can't be spiritualized if they already are?
20:50 Christianity grows by teaching people the Greek scriptures are part of the Hebrew Scriptures and then has you start in their book without having the foundation or knowledge of the first part of the book. When you read the tanach you will KNOW xtianity is idolatry
The entire show is a claim that the 3 days/night resurrection is stated by the apostles falsely to be according to the prophets. Greg states numerous times that Jonah is not a Prophet. Talmud Rabbeinu Bahya Shemot 2:23 “you will find that the Prophet Jonah inferred this when he said (Jonah 2:8): "When my soul grew faint upon me, I remembered the Lord and my prayer came to You, to Your Holy Temple. The prophet said clearly that a prayer which is recited when one is suffering and faint, is a prayer that will come before God in His Holy Temple.” Not only is the Book of Jonah recorded in the canon of the Prophets, look up any Jewish source and he is called a prophet.
*See how even JC himself didn't know the OT well:* Matthew 23:35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Zechariah son of Berekiah was not the priest that was killed it at the alter. It was Zechariah son of Jehoiada that was killed ! *Here's another example:* *Mark 4:* and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written: 18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, (?????) to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” That is not in Isaiah 61:1-2 Here is the complete text: The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord is on me, because the Lord has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor No healing of the blind in Isiah 61. To me it looks intentional, by those who wrote the gospels (that no one can say for sure who they really were, as the gospels were named by Irenious). And if this was done deliberately, following the example of Paul, what does that tell you about the gospels and Christianity in whole?
@Sonia No! All your obfuscations aside, Mark 5, Matt 8 & Luke 8 in your NT talk about a demon-possessed man (or is it 2-the NT authors couldn't get it straight) and demon-possessed pigs which they claim jesus ran off a cliff, into the sea. Demons are a xtian obsession so stop projecting your meshugas onto others! And SPAMMING this channel can’t hide the fact that the NT ascribes to satan powers that G-d never gave to him. That’s pagan dualism in full force and evidences the true object of your worship, satan.
There is the part in Acts where apostle Paul states what scripture there is about the messiah rising 3 day's later and apostle Peter also takes and mentions the scripture too. But the scripture was based on in the Psalms
what passage is Paul quoting ? 5:12 So Abraham Lincoln..... 9:12 so with that in mind let me directly adres the question you asked 9:55 there are none bro !
The Psalm that states that the messiah would rise 3 day's later is based on what was written that king David wrote about himself. You will not abandon ("me,") to the grave nor will you let your "faithful one," (king David) see decay. For you have made known to ("me,") not the messiah Jesus Christ! for made known to "me," (King David) the paths of life you will fill me with joy in your presence.'
Here's my response to use of typological assignments: There was quite a lot there, and I want to unpack it throughout this response. As stated before, I don't deny there are some similarities between Hebrew Bible characters and Jesus. Indeed, in a colloquial sense, one can argue that elements of Jonah fit a typology of Jesus. In your comments, you explained that the central details of a character's narrative aren't necessary when constructing a typology of Jesus for Jesus to fulfill that typology necessarily, and nor do you designate any number of elements a typology must contain for it to be typological. Presumably, some Christian typologies might simply include the details of common birth date and identical early life profession (carpentry) to render a typological fulfillment, for example. I don't see why one can't say that everyone mentioned by name in the Hebrew Bible, from the kings to the servant boys, is a typology of Christ. The parameters you establish here, a mixed match of like elements, the inclusion of non-central elements, and the lack of a numerical threshold of elements needed for validity all enable typologies to loosely and a-substantively address (not fulfill) the prophecy gap of Jesus's first coming. Still, we can't let you have that here because this is an entirely a-biblical standard for identifying the Messiah. The Hebrew Bible does not suggest that the Messiah would fail to fulfill all textual prophecies and instead match an alternative path of elective typologies. Of course, no explicit text gives us a typological standard, but also, nothing infers we ought to look for typological fulfillments in the Messiah. Furthermore, the lack of exclusivity means that the typological approach applicability is universal. In other words, the universal applicability of typological assignments means anyone could be the Messiah if typology is the identification tool. As evident in the macro-context of the Hebrew Bible's Messianic Age, the bar for messiahship is exhaustive and exclusive. Typological assignments are not elementally exhaustive or exclusive. Therefore, we can safely assign typology firmly to the realm of secular academic exercises, not divinely-inspired standards for understanding the word of God or identifying the Messiah. Again, to hammer the point home, I also want to take the time to demonstrate how universally applicable, therefore, unusable the typological device is theologically for identifying the Messiah or prophets of God: God chose Moses and Muhammad as messengers to deliver a divine message to their respective communities. Both faced opposition and challenges from those who resisted their message. They established new laws and regulations for their communities: the Mosaic Law for Moses and the Sharia for Muhammad. Both were religious leaders, lawgivers, and guides for their people, leading them toward God's word. Both have similar macro-contextual spiritual meanings: Moses and Muhammad delivered guidance, established religious laws, and showed their people a deeper understanding of God. Again, Joseph and Muhammad faced adversity, conflict, and betrayal from their own people before ultimately achieving leadership in their respective communities. They demonstrated patience, resolve, and forgiveness, even in difficult and extreme circumstances. Both of their leaderships were instrumental in times of crisis, with Joseph having dreams predicting and preparing for an upcoming famine and Muhammad guiding his people during times of conflict and social uncertainty. Finally, Abraham and Muhammad were both called by God to believe in one God in a context where polytheism was prevalent. Both played significant roles in the rebuilding and purifying the Kaaba in Mecca. Again, one can say Abraham and Muhammad faced opposition and hostility from their own communities as they taught belief in one God and rejection of false gods and idols. Both are considered to carry the ancestral bloodline of the Muslim faith, with Abraham being regarded as the father of the faith and Muhammad as the "Seal of the Prophets." See, anyone can fit a typological assignment. Sure, I could be more specific, but it took me twenty minutes to loosely construct these typologies; why do they not point to the prophet Muhammad and Islam's turth via the Hebrew Bible? Last short point, if the core message of Jonah is anyone can have forgiveness without blood atonement, why should one accept the blood atonement of Jesus if we can pray for forgiveness? If the blood atonement of Jesus is elective, why risk breaking the first commandment for an elective pathway to forgiveness, which is explicitly forbidden in the Hebrew Bible, Ezekiel 18: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die… the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him"? I wanted to attempt another one for fun and prove the utter uselessness of the typological approach in the theological regard to Hebrew Bible prophecy. God called Moses at Mount Sinia to lead the emancipation of the Hebrews and Joe Smith; yep, Joe had the "first vision" encounter with God. After Moses and Joseph Smith have prophetic revelations from God, they become the leader of their respective religious communities. Again, Moses received the Torah from God, and the American colonist Joseph Smith received the "holy book of Mormon." And even more directly and significantly, Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt to eventually establish Israel. In contrast, Joseph Smith led an exodus of Latter-day Saints from New York to Missouri to establish the Mormon communities and, finally, the Temple of Mormonism in Utah. Therefore, Moses is typological evidence that Joesph Smith is a Hebrew Bible prophesied prophet of God for the American country in the modern era. Joe Smith is the new Moses! I mean, am I supposed to accept this crap! No, spiritually honest people must dismantle and dismiss the typological approach to biblical prophecy whenever and however they can. And why should I accept such a sloppy standard for prophecy and messiahship when God himself put forth a demonstrably more direct and clear standard? Who or what is the church to supplant the textual substantive standards and signs God laid out in the Hebrew Bible with general and vague typological assignments?
Holy Cow i just figured out who you are William 😂... Ive sang karaoke with you . Back in the early 2000's i was a Nashville Recording Artist and hung out in printers alley most of my time til i refused a couple of contracts and just decided i wanted to play my bar and the other local bars in my hometown ... i Mostly hung out at Lonnies western room but i always made my rounds.
I’m more than 20 minutes into this video. Mr Solberg started off with an analogy based on the movie ‘The Sixth Sense’, indisputably a work of fiction, and in doing so was destined to end up with a ‘fictitious’ argument. I don’t see him being able to turn it around at this point, at least not in any rational way.
@Sonia You’re SPAMMING of this channel serves ONLY as a display of your ignorance and your admission that you have a losing argument. Jews are not obsessed with demons. Mark 5, Matt 8 & Luke 8 evidence that demons are a xtian obsession, coincidentally one that derives from the pagan world. (At the same time, there are contradictions in the xtian bible which leave doubt as to whether the story involves one or two demon-possessed men.) Ephesians 6 involves another xtian obsession, the devil. By ascribing to satan powers which G-d never gave him, missionaries unwittingly show who they serve and worship.
Moses has two different descriptions about his visit with Jethro his father in law. In Exodus Jethro gives him advice on how to set judges up on over thousands hundreds fifties and tens. But in Deteromny it doesn't show that written on in Exodus
Acts 9:3 Now as he was traveling and getting near Damascus, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him, 4 and he fell to the ground and HEARD A VOICE SAY TO HIM: “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” 5 He asked: “Who are you, Lord?” He said: “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. 6 But get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.” 7 Now the men who were traveling with him stood speechless, hearing, indeed, THE SOUND OF A VOICE BUT SEEING NO ONE. Acts 22:6 “But as I was traveling and getting near to Damascus, about midday, suddenly out of heaven a great light flashed all around me, 7 and I fell to the ground and heard a voice say to me: ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?’ 8 I answered: ‘Who are you, Lord?’ And he said to me: ‘I am Jesus the Naz·a·reneʹ, whom you are persecuting.’ 9 Now the men who were with me did see the light, but THEY DID NOT HEAR THE VOICE OF THE ONE SPEAKING TO ME. Acts 26:12 “While doing this as I was traveling to Damascus with authority and a commission from the chief priests, 13 I saw at midday on the road, O King, a light beyond the brilliance of the sun flash from heaven around me and around those traveling with me. 14 And when we had all fallen to the ground, I HEARD A VOICE to me in the Hebrew language: ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? This hearing a SOUND and understanding what was being SAID are different things. John 12:28 Father, glorify your name.” Then a voice came out of heaven: “I have glorified it and will glorify it again.” 29 The crowd that was standing there HEARD IT and began to say that IT HAD THUNDERED. Others said: “An angel has spoken to him.” Understanding what was being said was only meant for those to whom it was intended.
The Holy Spirit supposedly spoke to David on about Judas Iscariot's, 'place being deserted and let there be no one to dwell in it,' then why did Matthias take and take the place of Judas Iscariot if Judas Iscariot's place was to be deserted and that was one to dwell on in it then?
Impressive! Even the Christian did a good job in keeping his composure. Not too long I was reading the minor prophets in the Tanak. I saw something very interesting. Reading it in context. It was in Amos 3:3-8. But verse 3:7 was the catcher. Verse three said: “ Indeed, G-d can do nothing unless He reveals His secret to Hs servants the prophets.” Wow! That tells me that any passage in the Tanak that doesn’t make it very clear that it is about Yeshua by mentioning his name or by isolating the verse, than it is not about Yeshua.
Sorry but you are incorrect. Hashem says clearly: Deuteronomy 29:29 29. The secret things belong unto Hashem: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.
@@janishart5128 I once attended an Messianic Synagogue in North Dallas. One of the Rabbis there told me that Isaiah 53 was very important to them. Insinuating that if they couldn’t claim it to show the atonement of Jesus it would weaken Christianity.
@@Jebusisblatantidolatry The thing is that the secret thing that HaShem has revealed to the prophets will always be greater than what HaShem reveals to us. Because what Gd has revealed to the prophets is enforced in Scripture.
Then people say to me, wait a minute! I thought that you said just now that you believe only what Rabbi Tovia Singer believes about what was written on by Moses and the Prophets in the Tanakh about the messiah suffering then being the first to rise from the dead according to the hebrew scriptures
Just as the New Testament writer's wrote the same thing in Daniel was written that Jesus repeated which wasn't written on in the other Gospel's only on in Matthew
God is not a man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind, has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not make it good? Numbers 23.:19 Deuteronomy 4:39 know this day and lay it to thy ❤ heart, that the Lord, he is God in heaven above and upon the Earth beneath, there is no one else.
Sharon Lee God has a son. - Proverbs 30:4 - Psalm 2:6-12 Isaiah 8:13-14 says the Lord lays a stumbling block before Israel. Both the Talmud (Sanhedrin 38A) and New Testament (1 Peter 2:8) agree that Isaiah 8:13-14 is a Messianic passage which means the Lord is also the Messiah.
@@janishart5128 Replacement theology isn’t an option that is on the Table. - Romans 9:4 - Romans 11:1 - John 4:22 - 2 Samuel 7:24 - Deuteronomy 7:6 God references Israel as a son, yes (Hosea 11:1, Exodus 4:22). But also as the spouse (Jeremiah 3, Song of Songs, Hosea 2:19-21). The church is the spouse of the Messiah (Ephesians 5:22-33).
@@janishart5128 Israel had a Levitical priesthood that atoned for sin (Leviticus 17:11, 1 Samuel 3:13-14). However, over time, there were too many Levitical transgressions for the system to be able to atone for sin. - Malachi 2:1-10 - 2 Chronicles 29 - Ezekiel 44:7 - 1 Kings 12:31-33 The Old Covenant at large was also broken. - Deuteronomy 31:16 - Jeremiah 11:10 - Isaiah 24:5 - Hosea 8:1 The Abrahamic Covenant was even broken. - Genesis 17:9-14 --> 1 Maccabees 15:1 Which is why a New Covenant that provided atonement for the nation's sins had to be given. - Jeremiah 31:31-33 --> Ezekiel 16:59-63
i found one while putting kings and chronicles together. Jehu, while cutting off the house of ahab, kills the northern king and the southern king, but the narrative of the death of the southern king is different in the two books. in one Jehu pursues the king, northward i think, to ?miggido?, again if i remember correctly, and slays him. in the other book, the same king is brought to Jehu in Samaria where he is killed. There might be a resolution, but I don't know what it is. It seems a severe contradiction as contradictions go. How can you pursue to one place and kill a king, but have him brought to you in another place for execution?
“And He said to Aḇram, “Know for certain that your seed are to be sojourners in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them, and they shall afflict them four hundred years. “But the nation whom they serve I am going to judge, and afterward let them come out with great possessions.” Berĕshith (Genesis) 15:13-14 Vs “And the sojourn of the children of Yisra’ĕl who lived in Mitsrayim was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to be at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, on that same day it came to be that all the divisions of יהוה went out from the land of Mitsrayim.” Shemoth (Exodus) 12:40-41 TS2009
“Yehoyaḵin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Yerushalayim three new moons and ten days. And he did evil in the eyes of יהוה.” Diḇre haYamim Bĕt (2 Chronicles) 36:9 TS2009 Vs “Yehoyaḵin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Yerushalayim three new moons. And his mother’s name was Neḥushta the daughter of Elnathan of Yerushalayim.” Melaḵim Bĕt (2 Kings) 24:8 TS2009
@Eben it was 400 year since the birth of Isaac. The land of Israel was canaan and not yet given to Israel. We then descended into Egypt where we did become slaves until Moshe was sent to redeem us. It is an amazing prophecy one of the most incredible of history
21:08 Boom! If you read Tanakh enough you will began to understand the character of YHWH. He is explicit when it comes to His instructions we are to live by and the rewards/consequences for obedience/disobedience to Him. He tells us to no put our trust in princes (includes politicians?) and the son of man…I do not put my trust in them. Period.
In the Old Testament, when the people would commit sins, they had to offer up a lamb sacrifice in ord for The Almighty Creator to forgive them of their sins. If Yehoshua, Yeshua, Jesus is NOT your Lamb that was offered up to the Almighty Creator, so that your sins may be foregen, then "WHERE IS YOUR LAMB that you have offered up to the Almighty Creator, so that your sins you have committed may be forgiven? You are going to need a lamb in order for the Almighty Creator to forgive you of your sins. Because the Bible tells us in the (NLT) Hebrew 9:22...Without the shedding of blood (of a lamb) THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS OF SIN.
Go study with a rabbi. You know nothing about the sacrificial system Hebrews 9:22 quotes the passage out of context. Besides the pascal lamb was not a sin offering.
So if we use the "6th sense " logic, every religion that follows Judaism and christianity can be true because they have a new revelation. Islam can be true also. And same could be said for Mormonism. In addition, Jonah spent 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the fish... but Jesus only spent 2 nights in the grave, not 3. So it doesn't even match...
Mr Hall, I feel McBride is incorrect with his interpretation of Son of Man being the collective nation of Israel. He says it is a metaphor for God's people. He thinks it's allegorical for the nation of Israel. He is wrong. Jesus does allude to his being the Son of Man, and Him coming on the clouds of heaven (Matt 24:30). That is fine. “And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; his kingdom shall be an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.’” Daniel 7:27 ESV 1. Given that the power and authority goes to God’s people, does this destroy the view that Jesus is the Son of Man when the power is given to the remnant? 2. In Dan 7 we have: V13, 14 prophesies that the kingship and dominion will be given to the Son of Man V27b, "His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will serve and obey Him.’ McBride should understand that a king is not a king without a kingdom. The saved, according to V27a is given to "the people, the saints of the Most High". The nV27b says that the Son of Man will rule over them. This is a simple description of the place that the saved will occupy - rulers in the kingdom of God whose KING is the Son of Man. This is consistent with the following verses: • Rev 11:15 , 12:10, 14:14-16, and 20:4-6 "And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. ... Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years." The verses in the video do not entail that the Son of the Man is identified with plurality of saints of God and His Jewish people. It's possible that this plurality has the mentioned dominion through the ONE and a SINGULAR person of the Son of Man. God d gives to this term exactly this interpretation and it's clear He regards the Son of the Man as a solid, personal spiritual being, whom He also identifies with His own Person! Also the Isaiah 42:4, the Lord interprets the Messianic Ruler not as any sort of a collective chosen nation of Israel, in whom other, heathen nations will put their hope, but a concrete Person - Himself. I guess, the Lord's interpretation has an upper hand over all other interpretations, for He, being the Logos, is the very epistemological Principle of doing any interpretation, Himself needing no other Principle for that. Son of Man and Son of God: One is spiritual, the other is flesh. He came down as God in the flesh (son of man), to claim his kingdom on Earth, and now his abode in his heavenly kingdom. Man (a human) is also known as a son of man and sons of God; one is flesh, one is spiritual. I ask that you forward this to McBride. Perhaps even send to Skobac and your friend Singer.
The Christian apologist literally made a fool of himself by seeking to logically explain the paganistic concepts of his religion!! He must be a courageous man!! The other two guys are simply brilliant!! Gosh, why are even learned Christians unable to see obvious truths?
Back in design school we had an old credo that went, "bend it to fit, paint it to match". Design and engineering is a precise vocation and thus it was a funny way of saying when you goofed up and parts weren't lining up or fitting together, 'perfectly' you could FORCE it to fit and get away with it. Of course, even when using the credo, everyone understood something wasn't right. 😉 We can certainly see a valiant attempt on the part of the New Testament writer's to make it 'fit into' the Jewish Scripture. However, the mistranslations, tampering and corruptions of multiple verses of the Hebrew Scripture exposes the deception in high relief. Unfortunately, most Christians cannot read Hebrew and are unaware of these corruptions making them completely unaware of the cost of this ignorance.
There are lots of Hebrew-speaking Jews in Israel who come to the knowledge of the truth and accept Jesus as their Messiah God of Israel. This fact doesn't sit well with your bogus claim that "Unfortunately, most Christians cannot read Hebrew and are unaware of these corruptions making them completely unaware of the cost of this ignorance." Besides, the OT was written in Biblical Hebrew which is a dead language nobody speaks today so whether you can read modern Hebrew you still need to read the Bible with a proper dictionary (Biblical Hebrew dictionary).
By the way, I can easily demonstrate that it is Judaism that depends for its dear life on mistranslations, tampering and corruptions of multiple verses of the Hebrew Scripture.
One example is Psalm 45. The Messiah is referred to as God (Elohim) anointed by God, his God: *"Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."* This proves the Messiah is God in the flesh and God is a Trinity. In one of your Tanakhs, this passage reads as follows, "Thy throne, O Judge, is forever and ever..." while the other one (Stone Edition Tanach) reads, "Thy throne, FROM GOD, is forever and ever..." Clearly, the translators had one agenda in mind when tampering with the meaning of the passage but they used different approaches that betray an evil intent on their part.
Another example is Isaiah 52:15 which reads, *"So shall he SPRINKLE (נָזָה) many nations..."* The word SPRINKLE (נָזָה) is used in Tanakh in reference to the BLOOD of sacrifice as in Lev. 16: *"And he shall take of the BLOOD of the bullock, and SPRINKLE (נָזָה) it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he SPRINKLE (נָזָה) of the BLOOD with his finger seven times."* The servant shall sprinkle many nations with the BLOOD of his covenant through the EUCHARIST! Here's how the same passage is translated in your Tanakhs: *"So shall he cast down many nations..."* *"So the many nations shall exclaim about him..."* (the Stone Edition Tanach) Why? You know the answer. And here's how Isaiah prophetically describes the rabbis MO where they are coming from: *"Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves."*
In the book called, The Great Controversy Ellen G. White wrote what was written on of the opposite of what apostle Paul and John of Patmos took and wrote
If we view the prophets and read them in Christy mode, then Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior. יאאָֽנֹכִ֥י אָֽנֹכִ֖י יְהֹוָ֑ה וְאֵ֥ין מִבַּלְעָדַ֖י מוֹשִֽׁיעַ: would have to read; I,I am the Lord, and besides Me there is no 'Jesus'.
When the Scriptures says all Scriptures are inspired or God breath, they were referring to the OT, because the NT was not yet written, but was being written, a little here, and a little there. The Original Hebrew Scriptures were inspired by the Almighty Creator, Yehovah Elohym, but when people began to make copies of the OT, The Tanakh, The Original Ancient Hebrew Scrolls, for various reasons men began to make mistakes of their copies of the OT, The Tanakh, The original Ancient Hebrew Scriptures. Therefore, the Original Hebrew Scriptures were inspired by God, or God breathed, but the copies with the mistakes were not inspired by God. They were basically copies with mistakes, that were written by men, by the best of their ability.
Jesse: 'And i saw a family who had been in a car accident back in 1960's......' Ellen G. White: 'If there was a scripture saying that people had been transported to heaven at the moment of death according to what was written on by the New Testament which is not true
I will say though, to make this fare, let this discussion only be between the two guest. So it wont be tathered as a tag team against a christian. Because when i noticed several times in this show that William would mention something that took the guest off their topic. No offense to you at all William.
The son of G-d simply means a person who is righteous. There were many "sons of man" in the Old Testament. The phrase that has been coined is sons by the ton. I like Liam's point that they always try to take unclear verses and interpret them in their favor, while they ignore explicit verses that would negate their position. Christians always misinterpret intentionally, because the ends justifies the means. As Paul said, to the Jews he becomes like one of them and to the Gentiles he appears as one of them in order to promote his view. Otherwise known as lies.
@@thewarriorwounds3124 Yes, like in Psalms 8 the son of man meaning Issac. A person as opposed to a god or deity. Like son of G-d means a righteous person. Don't get it twisted.
@@User_pr3uLn5jzk And he gave that authority away to his apostles. And in the Our Father given by Esa AS when he was asked to demonstrate how one should pray, it clearly gives the information that we all have the power to forgive sin. "And forgive those who trespass against us. So.......yah
@@sondrameyer2816 Son of G-d is Jacob/Israel/The Jewish people. Ben Adam (son of man) means human being. Period. Doesn't have to be a righteous person, just a person.
@Sonia No it isn't. Being from Israel with my first language being Hebrew, Ben adam (son of man) doesn't mean messiah. Moshiach means messiah. If Israel is G-d's divorced wife, why is He so good to us? I wouldn't trade my life for yours if you paid me all the money in the world.
Big problem mr.solberg the new testament authors and your Jesus did not interpret the Hebrew scripture THEY CHANGED IT TO COMPORT WITH PAGAN BELIEF Read study learn May hashem bring you Torah knowledge
@johnmann8659 yep look things up my brother Christianity has adopted all pagan rituals in their holidays Did your Jesus decorate trees and eat chocolate bunnies? There is a reason why your holidays are not in your book But Jewish holidays are in lev.23 All Jewish denominations celebrate their holidays the same time Read study learn May hashem bless you with Torah knowledge
@Sonia May HaShem deal with your deceit according to the nearly 1 dozen times you posted this same exact message. It’s called spamming and serves only to highlight your ignorance and your inadequate message. In actuality it’s xtians who are obsessed with demons as depicted in the story of the two demon-possessed men (or is it one?-YOUR NT is confused about it) and the demon-possessed pigs that jesus allegedly ran off a cliff into the sea. That’s in Mark, Matthew and Luke, although there are other demons running around YOUR NT. But the height of your hypocrisy can be seen in Ephesians 6, which ascribes powers to the devil-aka satan, the true object of your worship-powers that G-d never gave him!
@Sonia For what seems like a dozen times you spammed this comments section re: your false claim about demons on Yom Kippur But NO, it’s YOUR NT that is rife with stories of demons and evil spirits. The story of the demon-possessed men and demon-possessed pigs driven off a cliff and into the sea in Mark 5/Matt 8/Luke 8 is only one example. You are projecting the xtian obsession with demons onto others. And ascribing to the devil powers that G-d never gave him, as done in Ephesians 6, shows the god exalted by YOUR NT, satan. But it’s not surprising that you don’t understand this as you’re too busy here criticizing HaShem’s perfect Torah to even read YOUR book of fiction.
Problem 1: Christians and Jews read the inspired word of God (a god) DIFFERENTLY! Problem 2: Soldberg is more than suggesting to skew the reading of the OT based on the conclusion that Jesus is the messiah. Problem 3: It requires a 'Christian' perspective Problem 4: Isaiah 53 is not about the messiah. He ignores previous and post chapters. Problem 5: He is equating the flawed Christian methodology to deciphering scriptures with how Jews do. So, the Jews do or did it, so we can too. Problem 6: He admits that there is no OT scripture that specifically mentions the resurrection. This is a huge and important admission. What god, what responsible god, does not clearly mention what the messiah of the UNIVERSE is to be before he comes??? Total mystery (aka Jesus) to the monotheistic world until thousands of years later!? Soldberg has made some 'interesting' and unconvincing arguments in the past.
1:00:25 "So was Jesus an animal?" No. And that is exactly the point Professor. ANIMAL Korban is mandated, HUMAN sacrifice is forbidden. It's that simple.
This was well done- each of you were so respectful!
Thank you
I think William destroyed the professor’s thesis in his first intervention. Something as important as eternal punishment would not have been hidden. “Hashem is not going to set a booby trap and hope we fall into it.”
@Ilyas Kelu, the point was that the warning was there. Where it lived was not the point.
I believe it to be true. Ty
@Iyas kelu in no way did I understand William to say the quote from the Hebrew Bible was about Jesus. That would make no sense. It was a quote to prove a point.
The fact is Tanakh states loud and clear that Hashem WILL set a booby trap (stumblingblock) hoping those who deserve to fall into it will as clearly evident from the plain meaning of the prophecies like these:
*"the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers. Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them."* (Jeremiah 11:10)
*I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.* (Jeremiah 6:19)
*I will lay stumblingblocks (booby traps) before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.* (Jeremiah 6:21)
God will indeed bring EVIL upon those many people who reject the Most Holy Messiah and God will even bring EVIL upon the fruit of their THOUGHTS by blinding their spiritual eyes.
Why?
Because the pride of their heart has deceived them so their blindness is of their making.
One example of booby trap set by God is Isaiah 7: God purposely placed the virgin birth prophecy of Isaiah 7:14 in close proximity to the Ahaz account so that those who want to be deceived could use this as an opportunity to deny the truth and double down on their rejection of the true Messiah who is GOD coming in human form to dwell WITH US.
As such, they become a self-fulfilling prophecy:
*"Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed."* (Isaiah 6:10)
Another example of booby trap is found in Zechariah 13:
God places a prophecy about the Messiah Shepherd who is God's companion (second person of the Trinity, see Psalm 110) in close proximity to the prophecy about false prophets so that those who want to be deceived fall into it.
*_"And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow COMPANION/ANOTHER/NEIGHBOUR (seated at the right hand), saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones."_*
Sometimes, they are very trying! But we know that the original Hebrew scriptures have nothing to do with the Christian's beliefs. The One True Creator G_d warned us about Christianity thousands of years ago.
1 Timothy 1:8
We know that the Law is good if one uses it lawfully.
Galatians 3:24
Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith
@@cynthiahunter2570 Devarim (Deuteronomy) 6:
1This is the commandment, the statutes, and the ordinances that the Lord, your God, commanded to teach you, to perform in the land into which you are about to pass, to possess it. אוְזֹ֣את הַמִּצְוָ֗ה הַֽחֻקִּים֙ וְהַמִּשְׁפָּטִ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּ֛ה יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֖ם לְלַמֵּ֣ד אֶתְכֶ֑ם לַֽעֲשׂ֣וֹת בָּאָ֔רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַתֶּ֛ם עֹֽבְרִ֥ים שָׁ֖מָּה לְרִשְׁתָּֽהּ:
2In order that you fear the Lord, your God, to keep all His statutes and His commandments that I command you, you, your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life, and in order that your days may be lengthened. בלְמַ֨עַן תִּירָ֜א אֶת־יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֗יךָ לִ֠שְׁמֹ֠ר אֶת־כָּל־חֻקֹּתָ֣יו וּמִצְוֹתָיו֘ אֲשֶׁ֣ר אָֽנֹכִ֣י מְצַוֶּ֒ךָ֒ אַתָּה֙ וּבִנְךָ֣ וּבֶן־בִּנְךָ֔ כֹּ֖ל יְמֵ֣י חַיֶּ֑יךָ וּלְמַ֖עַן יַֽאֲרִכֻ֥ן יָמֶֽיךָ:
3And you shall, [therefore,] hearken, O Israel, and be sure to perform, so that it will be good for you, and so that you may increase exceedingly, just as the Lord, the God of your fathers, spoke to you, a land flowing with milk and honey. גוְשָֽׁמַעְתָּ֤ יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ וְשָֽׁמַרְתָּ֣ לַֽעֲשׂ֔וֹת אֲשֶׁר֙ יִיטַ֣ב לְךָ֔ וַֽאֲשֶׁ֥ר תִּרְבּ֖וּן מְאֹ֑ד כַּֽאֲשֶׁר֩ דִּבֶּ֨ר יְהֹוָ֜ה אֱלֹהֵ֤י אֲבֹתֶ֨יךָ֙ לָ֔ךְ אֶ֛רֶץ זָבַ֥ת חָלָ֖ב וּדְבָֽשׁ:
4Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one. דשְׁמַ֖ע יִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵ֖ינוּ יְהֹוָ֥ה | אֶחָֽד:
5And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means. הוְאָ֣הַבְתָּ֔ אֵ֖ת יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֑יךָ בְּכָל־לְבָֽבְךָ֥ וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁךָ֖ וּבְכָל־מְאֹדֶֽךָ:
6And these words, which I command you this day, shall be upon your heart. ווְהָי֞וּ הַדְּבָרִ֣ים הָאֵ֗לֶּה אֲשֶׁ֨ר אָֽנֹכִ֧י מְצַוְּךָ֛ הַיּ֖וֹם עַל־לְבָבֶֽךָ:
7And you shall teach them to your sons and speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk on the way, and when you lie down and when you rise up. זוְשִׁנַּנְתָּ֣ם לְבָנֶ֔יךָ וְדִבַּרְתָּ֖ בָּ֑ם בְּשִׁבְתְּךָ֤ בְּבֵיתֶ֨ךָ֙ וּבְלֶכְתְּךָ֣ בַדֶּ֔רֶךְ וּבְשָׁכְבְּךָ֖ וּבְקוּמֶֽךָ:
8And you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand, and they shall be for ornaments between your eyes. חוּקְשַׁרְתָּ֥ם לְא֖וֹת עַל־יָדֶ֑ךָ וְהָי֥וּ לְטֹֽטָפֹ֖ת בֵּ֥ין עֵינֶֽיךָ:
9And you shall inscribe them upon the doorposts of your house and upon your gates. טוּכְתַבְתָּ֛ם עַל־מְזֻז֥וֹת בֵּיתֶ֖ךָ וּבִשְׁעָרֶֽיךָ:
10And it will be, when the Lord, your God, brings you to the land He swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give you, great and good cities that you did not build, יוְהָיָ֞ה כִּֽי־יְבִֽיאֲךָ֣ | יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֗יךָ אֶל־הָאָ֜רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֨ר נִשְׁבַּ֧ע לַֽאֲבֹתֶ֛יךָ לְאַבְרָהָ֛ם לְיִצְחָ֥ק וּלְיַֽעֲקֹ֖ב לָ֣תֶת לָ֑ךְ עָרִ֛ים גְּדֹלֹ֥ת וְטֹבֹ֖ת אֲשֶׁ֥ר לֹֽא־בָנִֽיתָ:
11and houses full of all good things that you did not fill, and hewn cisterns that you did not hew, vineyards and olive trees that you did not plant, and you will eat and be satisfied. יאוּבָ֨תִּ֜ים מְלֵאִ֣ים כָּל־טוּב֘ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹֽא־מִלֵּ֒אתָ֒ וּבֹרֹ֤ת חֲצוּבִים֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹֽא־חָצַ֔בְתָּ כְּרָמִ֥ים וְזֵיתִ֖ים אֲשֶׁ֣ר לֹֽא־נָטָ֑עְתָּ וְאָֽכַלְתָּ֖ וְשָׂבָֽעְתָּ:
12Beware, lest you forget the Lord, Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. יבהִשָּׁ֣מֶר לְךָ֔ פֶּן־תִּשְׁכַּ֖ח אֶת־יְהֹוָ֑ה אֲשֶׁ֧ר הוֹצִֽיאֲךָ֛ מֵאֶ֥רֶץ מִצְרַ֖יִם מִבֵּ֥ית עֲבָדִֽים:
13You shall fear the Lord, your God, worship Him, and swear by His name. יגאֶת־יְהֹוָ֧ה אֱלֹהֶ֛יךָ תִּירָ֖א וְאֹת֣וֹ תַֽעֲבֹ֑ד וּבִשְׁמ֖וֹ תִּשָּׁבֵֽעַ:
14Do not go after other gods, of the gods of the peoples who are around you. ידלֹ֣א תֵֽלְכ֔וּן אַֽחֲרֵ֖י אֱלֹהִ֣ים אֲחֵרִ֑ים מֵֽאֱלֹהֵי֙ הָֽעַמִּ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֖ר סְבִיבֽוֹתֵיכֶֽם:
15For the Lord, your God, is a zealous God among you, lest the wrath of the Lord, your God, be kindled against you, and destroy you off the face of the earth. טוכִּ֣י אֵ֥ל קַנָּ֛א יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֶ֖יךָ בְּקִרְבֶּ֑ךָ פֶּן־יֶֽ֠חֱרֶ֠ה אַף־יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֨יךָ֙ בָּ֔ךְ וְהִשְׁמִ֣ידְךָ֔ מֵעַ֖ל פְּנֵ֥י הָֽאֲדָמָֽה:
16You shall not try the Lord, your God, as you tried Him in Massah. טזלֹ֣א תְנַסּ֔וּ אֶת־יְהֹוָ֖ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֑ם כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֥ר נִסִּיתֶ֖ם בַּמַּסָּֽה:
17Diligently keep the commandments of the Lord, your God, and His testimonies. and His statutes, which He has commanded you. יזשָׁמ֣וֹר תִּשְׁמְר֔וּן אֶת־מִצְוֹ֖ת יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֑ם וְעֵֽדֹתָ֥יו וְחֻקָּ֖יו אֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽךְ:
18And you shall do what is proper and good in the eyes of the Lord, in order that it may be well with you, and that you may come and possess the good land which the Lord swore to your forefathers, יחוְעָשִׂ֛יתָ הַיָּשָׁ֥ר וְהַטּ֖וֹב בְּעֵינֵ֣י יְהֹוָ֑ה לְמַ֨עַן֙ יִ֣יטַב לָ֔ךְ וּבָ֗אתָ וְיָֽרַשְׁתָּ֙ אֶת־הָאָ֣רֶץ הַטֹּבָ֔ה אֲשֶׁר־נִשְׁבַּ֥ע יְהֹוָ֖ה לַֽאֲבֹתֶֽיךָ:
19to drive out all your enemies from before you, as the Lord has spoken. יטלַֽהֲדֹ֥ף אֶת־כָּל־אֹֽיְבֶ֖יךָ מִפָּנֶ֑יךָ כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֖ר דִּבֶּ֥ר יְהֹוָֽה:
20If your son asks you in time to come, saying, "What are the testimonies, the statutes, and the ordinances, which the Lord our God has commanded you?" ככִּֽי־יִשְׁאָֽלְךָ֥ בִנְךָ֛ מָחָ֖ר לֵאמֹ֑ר מָ֣ה הָֽעֵדֹ֗ת וְהַֽחֻקִּים֙ וְהַמִּשְׁפָּטִ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּ֛ה יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵ֖ינוּ אֶתְכֶֽם:
21You shall say to your son, "We were slaves to Pharaoh in Egypt, and the Lord took us out of Egypt with a strong hand. כאוְאָֽמַרְתָּ֣ לְבִנְךָ֔ עֲבָדִ֛ים הָיִ֥ינוּ לְפַרְעֹ֖ה בְּמִצְרָ֑יִם וַיֹּֽצִיאֵ֧נוּ יְהֹוָ֛ה מִמִּצְרַ֖יִם בְּיָ֥ד חֲזָקָֽה:
22And the Lord gave signs and wonders, great and terrible, upon Egypt, upon Pharaoh, and upon all his household, before our eyes. כבוַיִּתֵּ֣ן יְהֹוָ֡ה אוֹתֹ֣ת וּ֠מֹֽפְתִ֠ים גְּדֹלִ֨ים וְרָעִ֧ים | בְּמִצְרַ֛יִם בְּפַרְעֹ֥ה וּבְכָל־בֵּית֖וֹ לְעֵינֵֽינוּ:
23And he brought us out of there, in order that He might bring us and give us the land which He swore to our fathers. כגוְאוֹתָ֖נוּ הוֹצִ֣יא מִשָּׁ֑ם לְמַ֨עַן֙ הָבִ֣יא אֹתָ֔נוּ לָ֤תֶת לָ֨נוּ֙ אֶת־הָאָ֔רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר נִשְׁבַּ֖ע לַֽאֲבֹתֵֽינוּ:
24And the Lord commanded us to perform all these statutes, to fear the Lord, our God, for our good all the days, to keep us alive, as of this day. כדוַיְצַוֵּ֣נוּ יְהֹוָ֗ה לַֽעֲשׂוֹת֙ אֶת־כָּל־הַֽחֻקִּ֣ים הָאֵ֔לֶּה לְיִרְאָ֖ה אֶת־יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֵ֑ינוּ לְט֥וֹב לָ֨נוּ֙ כָּל־הַיָּמִ֔ים לְחַיֹּתֵ֖נוּ כְּהַיּ֥וֹם הַזֶּֽה:
25And it will be for our merit that we keep to observe all these commandments before the Lord, our God, as He has commanded us." כהוּצְדָקָ֖ה תִּֽהְיֶה־לָּ֑נוּ כִּֽי־נִשְׁמֹ֨ר לַֽעֲשׂ֜וֹת אֶת־כָּל־הַמִּצְוָ֣ה הַזֹּ֗את לִפְנֵ֛י יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵ֖ינוּ כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽנוּ:
@@cynthiahunter2570 Christianity lacks common sense! The One True Creator G_d who created all of the Cosmos and everything in it doesn't need any middleman to forgive anyone of their sins! The One True Creator G_d has said this from the very beginning!
Bereshit (Genesis) 4:
3Now it came to pass at the end of days, that Cain brought of the fruit of the soil an offering to the Lord. גוַיְהִ֖י מִקֵּ֣ץ יָמִ֑ים וַיָּבֵ֨א קַ֜יִן מִפְּרִ֧י הָֽאֲדָמָ֛ה מִנְחָ֖ה לַֽיהֹוָֽה:
4And Abel he too brought of the firstborn of his flocks and of their fattest, and the Lord turned to Abel and to his offering. דוְהֶ֨בֶל הֵבִ֥יא גַם־ה֛וּא מִבְּכֹר֥וֹת צֹאנ֖וֹ וּמֵֽחֶלְבֵהֶ֑ן וַיִּ֣שַׁע יְהֹוָ֔ה אֶל־הֶ֖בֶל וְאֶל־מִנְחָתֽוֹ:
5But to Cain and to his offering He did not turn, and it annoyed Cain exceedingly, and his countenance fell. הוְאֶל־קַ֥יִן וְאֶל־מִנְחָת֖וֹ לֹ֣א שָׁעָ֑ה וַיִּ֤חַר לְקַ֨יִן֙ מְאֹ֔ד וַיִּפְּל֖וּ פָּנָֽיו:
6And the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you annoyed, and why has your countenance fallen? ווַיֹּ֥אמֶר יְהֹוָ֖ה אֶל־קָ֑יִן לָ֚מָּה חָ֣רָה לָ֔ךְ וְלָ֖מָּה נָֽפְל֥וּ פָנֶֽיךָ:
7Is it not so that if you improve, it will be forgiven you? If you do not improve, however, at the entrance, sin is lying, and to you is its longing, but you can rule over it." זהֲל֤וֹא אִם־תֵּיטִיב֙ שְׂאֵ֔ת וְאִם֙ לֹ֣א תֵיטִ֔יב לַפֶּ֖תַח חַטָּ֣את רֹבֵ֑ץ וְאֵלֶ֨יךָ֙ תְּשׁ֣וּקָת֔וֹ וְאַתָּ֖ה תִּמְשָׁל־בּֽוֹ:
*** See!!! No so-called "Jesus " is ever needed!!! Never has been!!! Never will be!!!
The One True Creator G_d forbids 🚫 human sacrifice! It is an abomination!!! The One True Creator G_d specifically said in no uncertain terms that NO One can die for the sins of another! You and you alone are responsible for your own actions!
Yechezkel (Ezekiel) 18:
20The soul that sins, it shall die; a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. כהַנֶּ֥פֶשׁ הַֽחֹטֵ֖את הִ֣יא תָמ֑וּת בֵּ֞ן לֹֽא־יִשָּׂ֣א | בַּֽעֲוֹ֣ן הָאָ֗ב וְאָב֙ לֹ֚א יִשָּׂא֙ בַּֽעֲוֹ֣ן הַבֵּ֔ן צִדְקַ֚ת הַצַּדִּיק֙ עָלָ֣יו תִּֽהְיֶ֔ה וְרִשְׁעַ֥ת הָֽרָשָׁ֖ע (כתיב רָשָׁ֖ע) עָלָ֥יו תִּֽהְיֶֽה:
21 And if the wicked man repent of all his sins that he has committed and keeps all My laws and executes justice and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die. כאוְהָֽרָשָׁ֗ע כִּ֚י יָשׁוּב֙ מִכָּל־חַטֹּאתָיו֙ (כתיב חַטֹּאתָו֙) אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂ֔ה וְשָׁמַר֙ אֶת־כָּל־חֻקּוֹתַ֔י וְעָשָׂ֥ה מִשְׁפָּ֖ט וּצְדָקָ֑ה חָיֹ֥ה יִחְיֶ֖ה לֹ֥א יָמֽוּת:
22All his transgressions that he has committed shall not be remembered regarding him: through his righteousness that he has done he shall live. כבכָּל־פְּשָׁעָיו֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂ֔ה לֹ֥א יִזָּֽכְר֖וּ ל֑וֹ בְּצִדְקָת֥וֹ אֲשֶׁר־עָשָׂ֖ה יִֽחְיֶֽה:
23Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live? כגהֶֽחָפֹ֚ץ אֶחְפֹּץ֙ מ֣וֹת רָשָׁ֔ע נְאֻ֖ם אֲדֹנָ֣י יֱהֹוִ֑ה הֲל֛וֹא בְּשׁוּב֥וֹ מִדְּרָכָ֖יו (כתיב מִדְּרָכָ֖ו) וְחָיָֽה:
*** See!!! Still No so-called "Jesus " is ever needed!!! Never has been!!! Never will be!!!
The One True Creator G_d forbids 🚫 Adultery!!! But Christians want people to believe that G_d got another man's wife pregnant just like Zeus used to run around doing. Christianity is a lie! Christianity adopted way too many idolatrous and pagan beliefs contrary to what The One True Creator G_d actually said. We follow the instructions of the One True Creator G_d!!! Not the lies of Christianity.
@@cynthiahunter2570you cannot use the NT to prove the NT. It contradicts the OT
@@cynthiahunter2570: You need to realize, research, and accept, that NOWHERE did God ever mention the "Jesus" character to us, NOWHERE did He tell us that we need to be "saved", and NOWHERE did He tell us that He requires HUMAN BLOOD (a purely pagan ritual that God ABHORS!!) as atonement for our sins.
NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mt. Sinai, therefore, Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God!
PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Tovia Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God.
This is awesome. Amazing respect given on both sides. I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. I would love to see more of this.
I really look forward to this show every week. Absolutely brilliant 👏 Baruch HaShem!
Awesome
@Sonia
1. A human sacrifice is an abomination to G-d
2. Vicarious atonement is not taught in Tanakh
3. Jesus was not a lamb, goat, bull or a bird
4. A sacrifice need to stay dead and the fat burned.
5. There is no sacrifice for intentional sins.
Daniel is taking about 4 nations that are like beasts [wicked] and 1 nation that is like a man [not wicked]. This man is the messiah that represents the nation of Israel. if you read the below passages you will understand that Daniel 7 has nothing to do with Jesus.
Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under all the heavens *will be given to the people of the high holy ones* its kingdom is a perpetual kingdom, and all dominions will serve and obey [it]."
@Sonia can you post where in the tanach it states this?
@Iyas kelu So did Jesus commit suicide? Why? He cannot die for others right? Vicarious atonement is not taught in Tanakh. Why blame Jews for killing Jesus if this was the will of god and Jesus committed suicide?
There are a lot of events where leaders in Israel made mistakes. Jephthah is one such case. What passage tells you that a. G-d wanted the sacrifice? b. that G-d accepted the sacrifice? If you read the whole chapter you will see that Jephthah was a son of a concubine and was not a religious person. He made a mistake and Tanakh records it so we can learn from it. Had he been religious or sought advise when his daughter was the one he had to sacrifice, he would have been able to save his daughter.
@Iyas kelu You and I interacted on this question a few months ago and I gave you a detail explnation. Not sure why you keep bringing up the same question over and over. That said, I will not waste my time to explain but will give you the gist of intentional sins. See if G-d's ways make sense to you
1. Certain intentional sins like murder will be punished with death
2. Certain intentional sins like theft will be punished with return of the item + fine
3. Certain intentional sins like denying the Torah will be punished with being cut off from Israel. This means the person is all on his own and will be done away by any other community that finds him. This also means he loses his land, identity as G-d's people.....
4. For the rest of the intentional sins one repents.
5. For all sins [intentional + unintentional] repentance & turning to G-d is key
Last but not least, a lot of stringent criteria was needed for punishing one through #1.
Paul saw a better opportunity being the founder of Christianity rather than being a failed convert.
@@janishart5128 How does Paul lead people astray?
Are the texts found in the Dead Sea Scrolls illegitimate? I cited one above.
Paul makes claims that are heretical.
@@cmain3931 What claims does Paul make that are heretical?
@@janishart5128 Correct. Jesus is the end of the law for righteousness (Romans 10:4) by fulfilling it for this dispensation (Matthew 5:17). It was one entire legal system (James 2:10-11) that was made not kosher through transgressions. You can no longer call yourself righteous by offering the correct sacrifices, showing up to the Temple at a festival, etc.
Righteousness is according to your faith. Breaking faith is sin. Righteousness does not come by doing commandments you agreed to do at Mt. Sinai (Exodus 19:8).
- Deuteronomy 32:50-51
- Genesis 15:6
- Numbers 5:6
- 1 Samuel 26:23-25
- Joshua 7:1
- 1 Chronicles 2:7
- 1 Chronicles 5:25
- Habbakuk 2:4
- Ezra 10:10
- Hebrews 11
The Dead Sea Scrolls are dated before Christianity but affirmed the Hebrew Bible had not been tampered with. This means Paul and churches were prophesied in Jewish writings before Jesus was born.
@@johnmann8659 New Testament is not real scripture therefore your claim and that of xtianity is false.
Professor R. L. Solberg made a statement early on, between 16:31 to 16:57, that is completely incorrect. He stated that the LXX was a Greek translation of the Hebrew bible. This is not correct, it was only a translation of the Torah - 5 books of Moses and not the entire Tanakh. Further, he stated that the LXX was created because there were so many Jewish people who were no longer speaking Hebrew. This is also not correct. According to the story recorded in the Letter of Aristeas to Philocrates that 5 books of Moses were translated into the Greek language at the request of Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285-247 BCE) by seventy-two Jewish translators-six from each of the Twelve Tribes of Israel. According to the Talmud it was considered a bay time when the Torah was translated into Greek since it was considered that the Torah could not be fully translated into another language.
Lastly, most Jewish communities historically have no contact or even used the LXX let alone most Jewish communiites throughout the Middle East, Africa, and Asia never used Greek as a written or spoken language. During the 2nd Temple period many of the Jews living in Israel knew Aramaic, not Greek. Thus, a rule was created for reading the Torah (twice in Hebrew and once in Aramaic).
Baruch Hashem for this video William. It only straightens my absolute faith in Hakadosh Baruchu.
See Michael Heiser's lectures.
Solberg is such a good guy, even though i disagree with him, hes very likeable
Wow! I never expected an episode like this! Simply wow! I'm getting my popcorn 🍿 and soda.
Outstanding offering.
Nice job putting this together. Looking forward to watching.
😂😂
@@gardenoflifefinearts7177
Do tell us all what is so funny. I must have missed that part. I did enjoy Solberg getting a healthy dose of biblical reality. Maybe you didn't.
@Wow 613
He really is boring. And there's no defense of Christianity that holds water. It's simply a seudo Greco-Roman religion with tinges of judaism. It's garbage.
@@D18.21 IM laughing at what you wrote about popcorn and soda😂
Yeah we needed popcorn for this comedy show!! Solberg is almost as hilarious as Foxworthy !!!
As fae as I know Yitzchak's life was spared by the angel,I don't recall where in Torah Issac died and came back three days later.
@Wow 613 you r fricken hilarious 😂
@Wow-wo9gf😂😂😂😂
Thats a midrash on zohar sayin he had a femanine soul and he was actually killed by avraham. But never heard anyrhing about being dead for 3 days
@@JoeMova where does it say that yitzak was killed?
The Professor like a true Christian stretches the Torah every which way to make it look Christological. In less than 10 minutes I was out. Oh! I am going to watch the movie again, maybe I will see JC this time
@@Spartanthermopylae really? JC Penney this is what the conversation is all about.
Same here I tried 🙄
@@Spartanthermopylae 😊
The Tanakh is intrinsically Christological and it is the other side as true followers of the rabbis that's guilty of stretching the Torah every which way to make it look non-Christological.
@@janishart5128 God repeatedly revealed to us in his Word that the Lord God of Israel aka the Arm of the Lord will BECOME SALVATION (Yeshua Jesus) by coming in the flesh as God's servant and a MAN of war in order to provide atonement for his people.
*"The Lord is my strength and song, and he shall BECOME (הָיָה) my SALVATION (יְשׁוּעָה Yeshua Jesus): he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him. The Lord is a MAN of war: the Lord is his name."* (Exodus 15:2-3)
*"And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, to BECOME (הָיָה) my SALVATION (יְשׁוּעָה Yeshua Jesus) unto the end of the earth."* (Isaiah 49:6)
*"Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the ARM of the Lord revealed? For he (the ARM of the Lord ) shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him."* (Isaiah 53)
Consequently, those who reject God's Servant (the Arm of the Lord who becomes Yeshua Jesus) will perish in fiery Gehenna:
*"Behold, all those who were incensed against you Shall be ashamed and disgraced; They shall be as nothing, And those who strive with you shall perish."* (Isaiah 41:11)
Mark my words when you get there.
This was great! Thank you both so much!
Very welcome
Honestly it was a great show. Thank you to all three gentlemen.
Very welcome
@Sonia
Why do that when we can show that it’s missionaries and the NT that are obsessed with demons? Mark 5, Matt 8, and Luke 8 can’t even fig out if the story involves 1 or 2 demon-possessed men. Why do that when we can expose Ephesians 6 which introduces YOUR god, satan. That’s who you worship, ascribing to him powers that the One True G-d of Israel never gave him.
Stop projecting YOUR sins onto the Jews! Learn YOUR own scripture before coming here to lecture others about G-d’s perfect Torah! Stop trying to poison the minds of those seeking the truth!
Great show as usual! Thank you
Very welcome
Reverend Jesse Duplantis says looking at John F. Kennedy 10 year's younger: Hey john! Hey john! How were you able to become younger without having to be resurrected?!
I love this discussion. Please continue.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this content. Love how it's respectfully done. I went to the Jews bc it broke my heart that good people who rejected Jesus would face the same punishment as evil people. I wanted to find out WHY Jews were not terrified for rejecting Jesus. I know WHY now and it makes so much more sense than Christianity. Judaism is truly inclusive while Christianity is truly exclusive. Thank you, Gentlemen for pointing out the difference. :o)
Tanakh has the answer as to WHY the Jews rejected the Lord of hosts Jesus:
*"Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread. And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken."*
*"Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed."*
And yes, all they that strive with the Messiah Son of God Jesus shall perish.
*"Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him."*
@TheChristianLife Isaiah 2:4
@@Mercy_AIR Jesus is never mentioned in the Jewish holy scriptures and you think it would as xtianity claims New Testament is based on the Jewish holy scriptures.
@TheChristianLife Isaiah 2:4 states messiah rebukes the nations which cause them to return to g-d and they turn all their weapons to farming tools and no longer learn of war.
@TheChristianLife I don’t rely on the jps as that is a xtian translation which is still a mistranslation. And it was an angel as malach means messenger and the three men were messengers not a trinity or Jesus. Each had a job to do which one was to heal Abraham because he just had been circumcised and what are the other two assigned to do?
Solberg couldn't be any more WRONG. The Septuagint was only the first 5 books of Mosheh and it was destroyed in the fire at Alexandria in 48 BCE.
@Wow 613 lol...yeah i think they found a time machine built by the atlantians under the ice just last week so now they can go back and stop the death of their cheeseus!! 🤣🤣🤣 Bigfoot showed them where it was hiding!!!
Facts don't matter to Christians. They make them up when forced to reconcile that which they can't.
Christianity = idolatry!
I believe Solberg knew about the first 5 and agreed on that part.
@@tenaktalk then I wonder why he chose to suggest that the mistranslations of the xtian writings were because they were using a nonexistent text.
@TeNaK Talk (TaNaCh) this is a regular argument by xtians as to why their text has been corrupted.
I thought it was very fitting that the professor used the movie six sense as an example to explain xtian logic. I mean how can Bruce Willis not realize that he is dead? No one interacts with him except this one boy. Does he ever go to the store and buy something and need change back? He never bumps into someone and they freak out because he is invisible? He never notices that everyone must be ignoring him? He’s able to move objects around but people don’t see them moving by themselves? I know it’s just a movie and it isn’t real and not meant to be taken seriously but that’s my point. He’s using something that couldn’t be real in order to prove something is real. It’s so silly.
@@janishart5128 Exactly! Both Hollywood producers and NT authors always have big gaping holes in their stories. Bruce Willis doesn’t confront his wife on why she never comes to him to show she is happy that he didn’t die. Of course nobody witnesses jman rising from the dead. His stage crew very likely pulled him off the cross in secret. We can thank the Greco-Roman world for all these theatrics. We have been mesmerized by the make believe yet it doesn’t compare to the rich, life altering, true stories of the Tanakh.
@@janishart5128 Lol you’re funny but it’s true. Film makers know how to provide an escape from reality which would be ok, though I think it’s become something we depend on. Like we start ignoring how the real world works and start living in a fantasy. Such as using movies that can’t be real to depict the truth like this professor does or thinking biblical movies are accurate then learning and accepting their mistakes because listening to a teacher or opening up an instructional book is not satisfying enough. Got to say though Tenak Talk entertains me plenty. Especially the comment section! And it’s always good to see you here friend.
The problem is,this man has idolatry deeply ingraved in his heart
If you sin then you are in idolatry and only God the savior can save you.David was righteous because of the works of God and not by any work he did.When it comes to salvation God gets ALL the glory .No one seeks God no not one and no one is good but God.Jesus is the good shepherd that saves his people by the sending forth of his word..
@@Spartanthermopylae It is only by the mercy of God that we can come to truth and I hope that by bringing the word that god can save some.May god bless you and your loved ones.
@@chrisstathe9183 Jesus was not and is never included in the Jewish holy scriptures.
@Sonia I’m not Jewish and if it is written than it occurred when the temple was standing and it doesn’t matter if you like it it is what g-d said to do. You and New Testament and xtian opinion does not matter. My opinion does not matter. Only what HaShem said matters and he doesn’t care if you don’t like what he commanded.
I agree with you C main. And who are we to argue with scriptures that were given to the Jewish people written in Hebrew! I don’t read or write Spanish and surely wouldn’t try to translate a holy book, written in Spanish, and say I know better! Or any other book, and any other language for that matter.
Excellent take, good job William and Greg! Prof Solberg is a gentleman.
William you are wonderful and do a wonderful work
Does Rob realize the lamb was a god of Egypt, and by saying Jesus is the lamb of God then that god has to be a god of Egypt, and a question I asked Rob where does God say I will send my son to die for our sins against God, and by the way I will be my son, and you can kill me, and I will, forgive the sins of man, now and for all time, I have looked all through the old testament and I can't find it, he would probably say I have been blinded to the truth, And God said his laws were forever so who gave Paul permission to go against the words of God, I would love to hear Rob's answer to that.
@@janishart5128 Hi Janice I hope you are in good health, and it is good to hear from you, I try to explain to people to Christians about Isaac not being sacrificed, and the ram was, but I must be speaking a language they don't understand, because they don't listen, it is like Isaiah 7:14 I tell them if the virgin they talk about gave birth in the time of Isaiah, then Jesus isn't all that special because another virgin beat Mary to it, also they don't read the verses before or after 14 and miss the whole point, but all you and I can do is keep telling them the truth, and hope they study TANAKH, and learn from the words of G-d, and throw their Christian bibles out, keep up your good work, I am one of the people who give you the thumbs up when I see your posts I enjoy reading what you write, because it is truth straight from your heart and I will keep looking for your name and I know I will enjoy reading your answers to to our Christian friends, even if we only save one from Idolatry, it will be worth it, may Hashem bless you and keep you safe my friend.
I don’t think he knows this as I attended catholic school from pre-k through 12 and church on sundays and not once is this taught, the lamb was an Egyptian idol.
@@janishart5128 Thanks Janis, and I feel for you with your knees, my wife has the same problem bone on bone, and some days she can't get around, I hope that one day they can fix it without having to operate, so I will pray for you and all the people with the same thing that they will find a lasting cure, because constant pain is a truly terrible thing, and may Hashem continue to bless you as well.
I’m sorry to enter this conversation so long after it was aired but of all the mistakes this man has made on behalf of all Christians, the biggest one he made was to refer to the Septuigent as Tanakh. Tell him that he is totally wrong. The 72 rabbis and sages, 6 from each of the 12 tribes equaling 72, hence Septuagint, ONLY translated the Torah. Now then, that being the only Greek translation of Hebrew language at the time was totally lost when the Library of Alexandria was burned to the ground by Rome. “The” Septuagint was lost never to be replaced. Everything in the new “Septuagint” was done under duress. These rabbis did not want to translate the “Tanakh” at all. This man is preaching his Christian nonsense to try and strengthen the myth about his messiah. So number one Mr. Jesus didn’t have a human father whose lineage could be traced back to King David. No. Joseph adopting him didn’t work either. Sorry. Your Jesus story is lacking in so many ways.
Listening to an apologist desperately try to justify a false religion of idolatry is painful to listen too
@Sonia I already answered this question which you posted in another video. How come you didn’t reply but ask it again to someone else? You saw that you couldn’t deceive me so you are trying to deceive somebody else. You are a bad faith actor.
Sending the scapegoat serves as an atonement for the Sanctuary. As of now we don’t have a sanctuary so we cannot send a scapegoat. The scapegoat sent out to Azazel is a place in the wilderness, not a demon. That’s just an interpretation based on xtian dualism. Also the scapegoat has been atoned for so it doesn’t “bear” sins. The other goat is designated for Hashem which gets slaughtered to cleanse the Sanctuary, altar and defilements of the Jewish people so they can enter the Sanctuary. “Bearing” the sins is another false view xtians have when the Tanakh is talking about sin. Read the text in Leviticus 16 for yourself. You are changing the word of God.
So actually it is the Jews that are on the right path and you are on the path of intentionally deceiving others. How disgusting.
@The Biblical Earth may HaShem bless you and strengthen you
@@BiblicalEarth
Yes, apparently some people confuse indulging in their own neuroses with being on the right path. 😏😏
It’s her M.O.
But personally I’d like to thank her for showing this channel’s visitors how she, of her own accord, links her man-god with demons and evil spirits.
@@garymichaels719 I hear what you’re saying and I actually have thanked her before for her inability to refute any evidence against her defense for xtianity and how she just bounces into another bogus claim which just makes her argument weaker and that the likelihood of any xtians reading it who are on the fence may now question their faith. Although she is not just ignoring the evidence and moving onto another wrong idea that she has but she is seeing if someone else will fall for her deceptive questions instead that have already been shown to her as lies since she makes no attempt to refute it. This is disgusting and I can’t be thankful for that because it is clear that she doesn’t care about being wrong and will continue to recite what she knows to be wrong to make others believe it is right. I can have respect for confused xtians but not bad faith actors.
@Sonia read for yourself. Your eyes will be open. Its sad that you jave been deceived. But you can turn from idolatry and blasphemy. Our Creator just wants a relationship with each of us. He doesn't want us to love, fear and obey any fictional characters. All Xtianty has managed to do is keep people from having a relationship with the Most High, Blessed is His Name.
He tests people. Xtians have fallen for idolatry and blasphemy. Best wishes on your continued study of Holy Text. You will see the Truth, if you open your heart to G.d and not anyone else.
Such an important discussion. 👏
Psalm 146:3 Do not put your trust in the son of man, in whom there is no salvation. It doesn’t matter which son of man the Tanakh refers to, even the positive ones because salvation comes from Hashem alone. He is our only savior. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the Lord, and besides Me there is no savior. Jeezman can’t save you.
The Biblical Truth
Jesus provides atonement for transgressors as prophesied (Isaiah 53:12 -> Hebrews 7:25).
This is the Melchizedkian priesthood (Psalm 110:4 -> Hebrews 6:20). The long period of time Israel would spend without the Levitical priesthood (Hosea 3:4).
@@johnmann8659 Regarding Isaiah 53:12... until I see the moshiach and the righteous remnant of Israel allotted their portion in public and share their plunder with the strong then this verse has not been fulfilled. Your jman did not accomplish this so he is clearly not the moshiach. Reread the verse again.
Hosea 3:4... yes because we don’t have the temple at this time. Look at the last chapters in Ezekiel and you will see that the temple will return to the Jewish people.
@@BiblicalEarth
Isaiah 53 is not talking about the nation of Israel. A third party atones for the nation’s sins (Isaiah 53:8).
Party 1 = Isaiah (the Author)
Party 2 = Isaiah’s people (my people = Israel)
Party 3 = Is stricken for the transgressions of Isaiah’s people (party 2).
The New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-33) was prophesied to provide atonement (Ezekiel 16:59-63) after the Old Covenant was broken (Deuteronomy 31:16 -> Jeremiah 11:10). The New Covenant also would have been given at some point after Israel returned from Babylon (Jeremiah 50:1-5).
@@johnmann8659 In Isaiah 41:8 HASHEM CALLS ISRAEL HIS SERVANT then in 42:1 He says, behold my servant, I will support him. Notice “HIM” is singular yet MY SERVANT MEANS ISRAEL. In chapter 53 it says with his knowledge my servant would vindicate the just for many. The whole chapter is about His servant Israel.
In Jeremiah 31 Hashem says what will happen when He gives the new covenant. No longer will anyone teach each other who Hashem is and their sin will no longer be remembered. This obviously has not happened yet so the new covenant couldn’t of possible been given. Stop altering the word of the Most High.
@@BiblicalEarth
-The servants in Isaiah can be Israel (Isaiah 41:8), Jesus (Isaiah 53) or Isaiah himself (Isaiah 20:3).
- Correct. Jesus was the inspiration for Christianity. The vehicle for every nation to learn about the Jewish Messiah and receive atonement for their sins via faith.
Isaiah 53:11 -> Matthew 28:19 -> Matthew 24:14
The nations will be his inheritance (Psalm 2:6-12, Revelation 12:5).
-Correct. Their sin is no longer remembered in Jeremiah 31 because the New Covenant atoned for the nation’s previous sins (Ezekiel 16:59-63).
So Christianity is based on types, foreshadows, mirrors & clouds... Good for you Christians.
I came across something interesting in my morning reading today! In John 9, Jesus heals a man born blind on the Sabbath, and the religious authorities end up kicking that man out of the synagogue. "Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” He answered, “And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?” Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.” (John 9:35-37).
So here is Jesus once again claiming to be the Son of Man. If the prevailing first-century Jewish understanding of the phrase "Son of Man" was as negative as you assert, William, how would we expect that man to respond to Jesus' claim? He would turn and run for the hills! But that's not what he does. Instead, "He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him" (John 9:38). Jesus uses the phrase "Son of Man" in a reference to the second divine figure in Daniel 7:13, and His fellow Jews understood it that way.
Blessings, Rob
They were in a tizzy since only the Messiah could heal a man BORN blind. This is why they got his parents to come and testify.
It was believed that a righteous man could heal someone who was blind (not born blind, just blind).
When was John written? Wasn't that the Gospel that added the most, it was different than the "synoptic" gospels. John wasn't even talking to Jews at this point, it was a Greek speaking gentile audience.
The mother never hired the psychologist (Willis) . The viewer just ASSUMED she did. Watch the film again. This apologist ASSUMES too much. When you remove the TEXT from the CONTEXT you are left only with a CON. This apologist is a CONman.
Well done, Sensei !!!
he knows that he is lying. this is intentional
He tried to saw off the branch he was sitting on 😂
Bottom line is. God is extremely intentional with his words in Tanakh, but when it comes to Jesus, we humans need an entirely new book to explain that Jesus was in Tanakh the entire time. Christianity is so deceptive.
James Martin
A New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-33) that provides atonement (Ezekiel 16:59-63) means new instructions must be provided (a New Testament).
The Old Covenant was broken.
- Deuteronomy 31:16 -> Jeremiah 11:10
@@johnmann8659 no such thing as a new covenant.
He doesn’t want to see it
Who doesnt' want to see what?
Now would do I want to see a God who made a hell or one who did not. OF COURSE I DON"T WANT TO SEE THAT GOD. Obvioulsy, I don't want anyone to suffer like that.
If it can be proven or I can be convinced or awakened or my heart brought to it, fine. It' sure seems like a sad horrific idea though. Horrific.
The bit at 15 mins was gold bro, you can literally see the "oh no hes right" look on the Christian guys face when you said there is no scripture in tenach about the saviour dying after being dead 3 days and resurrected and dying for our sins
Jeesus said when you pray
Pray to OUR FATHER not my father.
We are all the children of G-D
As usual Christian can never answer straight.. But go all over to kill time.. Sol is stubborn and stiff neck christian
Brilliant teaching, you two!. Greg McBride, can i ask you a question please?
Gcmcbride69@gmail.com I believe
@@tenaktalk Thank you, I will email him!
@@tenaktalk I tried to email him, but I get the email in return. It is not able to deliver.
Great show!
@Sonia
None of that matters - God never commanded the ways of sacrifice, God clearly states it came from the evil hearts ,and imaginations of men. - proof
21Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh. 22For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: 23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. 24But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward. 25Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt unto this day I have even sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them: 26Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers.
27Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee. 28But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.
29Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.
30For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it. 31And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
Christianity depends and claims the legitimacy of the Tenak but the Tenak is not dependent on the NT. So we can use atheist argument to refute NT but Christians should never do likewise against Tebak.
No, you can't because you are still obligated to fairness and you have to apply the same level:
Leviticus 19 (vv. 35-37): “You shall not falsify measures of length, weight, or capacity. You shall have an honest balance, honest weights, an honest ephah , and an honest hin . I the LORD am your God who freed you from the land of Egypt. You shall faithfully observe My laws and all My rules: I am the LORD ”
@@alexanderharder1000
The way that I see it, in the same way that someone can use a counterfeit bill detector pen manufactured by any legitimate *business* to spot phony *government* currency, non-religious sources (or even the lack thereof) can absolutely be used to spot phony religious articles or texts. While I don’t agree at all with atheist ideology, I do comprehend that NOT EVERYTHING they say is illogical or without merit. For example, I find the facts that jesus is not purported to have written anything himself, that there is a dearth of material by any contemporaries of jesus which mention him, and that the NT itself didn’t appear until 5 decades after Jesus’s alleged death on a cross quite compelling evidence that any religion with him as an object of worship was later contrived.
Besides, after many months of exchanging scriptures with missionaries online it’s become quite clear that scripture is of only secondary importance to them. No matter how well I (or anyone else I’ve seen, for that matter) support my/their beliefs with scripture and no matter how I relate my experiences regarding my 3 decades in the church missionaries mostly ignore the scripture and other religious texts offered by myself/my fellow Jews and Noachides. As a result, for the most part my modus operandi regarding this channel’s comments section has evolved *FROM* mostly quoting scripture *TO* mostly pointing out the ignorance and deceptive tactics of missionaries-more an exercise in psychology than a ‘religious’ pursuit. This comment you’re currently reading is a prime example. I mean why would I continue to quote the last 2 verses of Psalm 147 when it’s clear that missionaries either ignore it or are incapable of comprehending it’s very simple language?!
@@alexanderharder1000 yet tanach is the word of g-d and New Testament is not.
25:20 @wil'Liam has been talking for I guess five minutes about the Psalm that says, "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no salvation. The day he dies, his thoughts perish." He then makes a point I thought was amazing, "Along comes a man who supposedly knew everything the Tanakh says concerning "the or a son of man," and explicitly says NOT to put trust in him nor trust in his ability to save anyone, and he chooses that exact expression to call himself, and then expects Israel to ignore the Biblical textual warnings, but trust in his salvation after all!
The Christian theology is so twisted that their god gave laws, tells man they must follow them or be punished, then disappointedly finds out they are simply too hard for anyone to follow, so he has to kill himself as a sacrifice to himself to be able to repeal all the laws that were too hard for anybody to keep, but to also wipe away all the sins of everybody who had fallen victim of a law that was unjust from the start.
So the Christian god doesn't know the future, or overestimates mankind's ability to follow instructions, even though he created the laws and the people with both in mind before putting pen to paper in the first place. The Christian god is just but merciless, and needs to be bought off the be able to look the other way at all the people's sins.
Who needs this kind of a god?!
Excellent Reasoning. Ezekiel 18 is Clear Expectations From GOD Almighty. Unless GOD dies , which we know He is The Only Eternal One that gives life , what is written in Ezekiel 18 will never change .
As a wise rabbi once said, G-d made man and then man returned the favor. Christianity makes the Almighty extremely petty... you know, like us. :o)
@@janishart5128 Janis !!! thank you and always a pleasure to hear from you. Hope all is well with you and yours. Yes, Torah is beautiful and G-d's gift to us. I thank Hashem for his chosen people who are the light unto the world. I've learned so much and am so grateful. Hopefully, we'll cross paths during a live Tenak Talk. See you then. :o)
@@janishart5128 Now it's my turn to say "well said". See you out there, too. :o)
Less than 8 minutes in and Solberg admits that Jesus is a work of fiction by comparing to a movie 😂.
100,000 Jews were crucified, with no choice, because of a Heresy Decree by Rome. How did that not apply to Jesus preaching before all?
If you do it again, I hope Dr. Solberg understands the point you were making in the context of his "sixth sense" analogy. Looking backwards, he showed some tenuous connections that could be drawn on top of original meanings within Tanakh to support the story of Christians. You were also saying that looking back, the words of Psalms could be much more clearly understood as a warning against following Jesus on top of the original meaning. For some reason, Dr. Solberg simply said that the Psalms didn't originally intend to refer to Jesus as the son of man. But you don't disagree with that.
It is an important issue that I would love to hear him address.
Meaning he was saying that his resurrection wasn't a spiritual resurrection but a physical resurrection which if that's the same with other people if their physical bodies are to be resurrected what about those that can't be spiritualized if they already are?
20:50 Christianity grows by teaching people the Greek scriptures are part of the Hebrew Scriptures and then has you start in their book without having the foundation or knowledge of the first part of the book. When you read the tanach you will KNOW xtianity is idolatry
Seekers of Righteousness
How is Christianity idolatry?
CORRECT
@@johnmann8659 makes pagan claims.
@Sonia No Jesus is a Greco Roman invention of Paul.
@Sonia Yep CHRITIANITY IS A MYSTERY RELIGION. THE EUCHARIST IS A CLASSIC BECOMING ONE WITH THE PAGAN GOD.
The entire show is a claim that the 3 days/night resurrection is stated by the apostles falsely to be according to the prophets. Greg states numerous times that Jonah is not a Prophet.
Talmud
Rabbeinu Bahya Shemot 2:23
“you will find that the Prophet Jonah inferred this when he said (Jonah
2:8): "When my soul grew faint upon me, I remembered the Lord and my prayer came to You, to Your Holy Temple. The prophet said clearly that a prayer which is recited when one is suffering and faint, is a prayer that will come before God in His Holy Temple.”
Not only is the Book of Jonah recorded in the canon of the Prophets, look up any Jewish source and he is called a prophet.
*See how even JC himself didn't know the OT well:*
Matthew 23:35
And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
Zechariah son of Berekiah was not the priest that was killed it at the alter. It was Zechariah son of Jehoiada that was killed !
*Here's another example:*
*Mark 4:*
and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, (?????) to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
That is not in Isaiah 61:1-2
Here is the complete text:
The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord is on me, because the Lord has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor
No healing of the blind in Isiah 61.
To me it looks intentional, by those who wrote the gospels (that no one can say for sure who they really were, as the gospels were named by Irenious).
And if this was done deliberately, following the example of Paul, what does that tell you about the gospels and Christianity in whole?
@Sonia it was not to a demon or an evil spirits. Keep your pagan beliefs to yourself.
@Sonia
You're hilarious 😂
Is a human sacrefice better ??
Against god's own words !!
@Sonia
No!
All your obfuscations aside, Mark 5, Matt 8 & Luke 8 in your NT talk about a demon-possessed man (or is it 2-the NT authors couldn't get it straight) and demon-possessed pigs which they claim jesus ran off a cliff, into the sea. Demons are a xtian obsession so stop projecting your meshugas onto others!
And SPAMMING this channel can’t hide the fact that the NT ascribes to satan powers that G-d never gave to him. That’s pagan dualism in full force and evidences the true object of your worship, satan.
Matthew mentions it on in Matthew 24 chapter about signs of the end of the age. Jesus didn't mention anything after that about Daniel 7 exactly
Apostle Paul never mentions the prophecy about the messiah having to suffer on in Acts
There is the part in Acts where apostle Paul states what scripture there is about the messiah rising 3 day's later and apostle Peter also takes and mentions the scripture too. But the scripture was based on in the Psalms
what passage is Paul quoting ?
5:12 So Abraham Lincoln.....
9:12 so with that in mind let me directly adres the question you asked
9:55 there are none
bro !
The Psalm that states that the messiah would rise 3 day's later is based on what was written that king David wrote about himself. You will not abandon ("me,") to the grave nor will you let your "faithful one," (king David) see decay. For you have made known to ("me,") not the messiah Jesus Christ! for made known to "me," (King David) the paths of life you will fill me with joy in your presence.'
The "God breathed" quote is referring to the OT prophets. The gospels were written in their own words from what they were brought into remembrance.
Here's my response to use of typological assignments: There was quite a lot there, and I want to unpack it throughout this response. As stated before, I don't deny there are some similarities between Hebrew Bible characters and Jesus. Indeed, in a colloquial sense, one can argue that elements of Jonah fit a typology of Jesus. In your comments, you explained that the central details of a character's narrative aren't necessary when constructing a typology of Jesus for Jesus to fulfill that typology necessarily, and nor do you designate any number of elements a typology must contain for it to be typological. Presumably, some Christian typologies might simply include the details of common birth date and identical early life profession (carpentry) to render a typological fulfillment, for example. I don't see why one can't say that everyone mentioned by name in the Hebrew Bible, from the kings to the servant boys, is a typology of Christ. The parameters you establish here, a mixed match of like elements, the inclusion of non-central elements, and the lack of a numerical threshold of elements needed for validity all enable typologies to loosely and a-substantively address (not fulfill) the prophecy gap of Jesus's first coming. Still, we can't let you have that here because this is an entirely a-biblical standard for identifying the Messiah. The Hebrew Bible does not suggest that the Messiah would fail to fulfill all textual prophecies and instead match an alternative path of elective typologies. Of course, no explicit text gives us a typological standard, but also, nothing infers we ought to look for typological fulfillments in the Messiah.
Furthermore, the lack of exclusivity means that the typological approach applicability is universal. In other words, the universal applicability of typological assignments means anyone could be the Messiah if typology is the identification tool. As evident in the macro-context of the Hebrew Bible's Messianic Age, the bar for messiahship is exhaustive and exclusive. Typological assignments are not elementally exhaustive or exclusive. Therefore, we can safely assign typology firmly to the realm of secular academic exercises, not divinely-inspired standards for understanding the word of God or identifying the Messiah.
Again, to hammer the point home, I also want to take the time to demonstrate how universally applicable, therefore, unusable the typological device is theologically for identifying the Messiah or prophets of God:
God chose Moses and Muhammad as messengers to deliver a divine message to their respective communities. Both faced opposition and challenges from those who resisted their message. They established new laws and regulations for their communities: the Mosaic Law for Moses and the Sharia for Muhammad. Both were religious leaders, lawgivers, and guides for their people, leading them toward God's word. Both have similar macro-contextual spiritual meanings: Moses and Muhammad delivered guidance, established religious laws, and showed their people a deeper understanding of God.
Again, Joseph and Muhammad faced adversity, conflict, and betrayal from their own people before ultimately achieving leadership in their respective communities. They demonstrated patience, resolve, and forgiveness, even in difficult and extreme circumstances. Both of their leaderships were instrumental in times of crisis, with Joseph having dreams predicting and preparing for an upcoming famine and Muhammad guiding his people during times of conflict and social uncertainty.
Finally, Abraham and Muhammad were both called by God to believe in one God in a context where polytheism was prevalent. Both played significant roles in the rebuilding and purifying the Kaaba in Mecca. Again, one can say Abraham and Muhammad faced opposition and hostility from their own communities as they taught belief in one God and rejection of false gods and idols. Both are considered to carry the ancestral bloodline of the Muslim faith, with Abraham being regarded as the father of the faith and Muhammad as the "Seal of the Prophets."
See, anyone can fit a typological assignment. Sure, I could be more specific, but it took me twenty minutes to loosely construct these typologies; why do they not point to the prophet Muhammad and Islam's turth via the Hebrew Bible?
Last short point, if the core message of Jonah is anyone can have forgiveness without blood atonement, why should one accept the blood atonement of Jesus if we can pray for forgiveness? If the blood atonement of Jesus is elective, why risk breaking the first commandment for an elective pathway to forgiveness, which is explicitly forbidden in the Hebrew Bible, Ezekiel 18: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die… the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him"?
I wanted to attempt another one for fun and prove the utter uselessness of the typological approach in the theological regard to Hebrew Bible prophecy.
God called Moses at Mount Sinia to lead the emancipation of the Hebrews and Joe Smith; yep, Joe had the "first vision" encounter with God. After Moses and Joseph Smith have prophetic revelations from God, they become the leader of their respective religious communities. Again, Moses received the Torah from God, and the American colonist Joseph Smith received the "holy book of Mormon." And even more directly and significantly, Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt to eventually establish Israel. In contrast, Joseph Smith led an exodus of Latter-day Saints from New York to Missouri to establish the Mormon communities and, finally, the Temple of Mormonism in Utah. Therefore, Moses is typological evidence that Joesph Smith is a Hebrew Bible prophesied prophet of God for the American country in the modern era. Joe Smith is the new Moses!
I mean, am I supposed to accept this crap! No, spiritually honest people must dismantle and dismiss the typological approach to biblical prophecy whenever and however they can.
And why should I accept such a sloppy standard for prophecy and messiahship when God himself put forth a demonstrably more direct and clear standard? Who or what is the church to supplant the textual substantive standards and signs God laid out in the Hebrew Bible with general and vague typological assignments?
The messiah is supposed to bring peace … Jesus ain’t bring that . He said the opposite all the Time
Holy Cow i just figured out who you are William 😂... Ive sang karaoke with you . Back in the early 2000's i was a Nashville Recording Artist and hung out in printers alley most of my time til i refused a couple of contracts and just decided i wanted to play my bar and the other local bars in my hometown ... i Mostly hung out at Lonnies western room but i always made my rounds.
Very cool! Although I'm not sure who you are based on your YT handle. If you like, send me an email: william@tanachtalk.com
I am still waiting for replies from Mr Hall and Mr McBride to my posts 11 days ago.
I’m more than 20 minutes into this video. Mr Solberg started off with an analogy based on the movie ‘The Sixth Sense’, indisputably a work of fiction, and in doing so was destined to end up with a ‘fictitious’ argument. I don’t see him being able to turn it around at this point, at least not in any rational way.
👍,true and in same time sad!(i mean for prof.)
David Koresh claimed to be messiah so I guess Jesus will be here a third time.
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@Sonia
You’re SPAMMING of this channel serves ONLY as a display of your ignorance and your admission that you have a losing argument.
Jews are not obsessed with demons. Mark 5, Matt 8 & Luke 8 evidence that demons are a xtian obsession, coincidentally one that derives from the pagan world. (At the same time, there are contradictions in the xtian bible which leave doubt as to whether the story involves one or two demon-possessed men.)
Ephesians 6 involves another xtian obsession, the devil. By ascribing to satan powers which G-d never gave him, missionaries unwittingly show who they serve and worship.
Moses has two different descriptions about his visit with Jethro his father in law. In Exodus Jethro gives him advice on how to set judges up on over thousands hundreds fifties and tens. But in Deteromny it doesn't show that written on in Exodus
Acts 9:3 Now as he was traveling and getting near Damascus, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him, 4 and he fell to the ground and HEARD A VOICE SAY TO HIM: “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” 5 He asked: “Who are you, Lord?” He said: “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. 6 But get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.” 7 Now the men who were traveling with him stood speechless, hearing, indeed, THE SOUND OF A VOICE BUT SEEING NO ONE.
Acts 22:6 “But as I was traveling and getting near to Damascus, about midday, suddenly out of heaven a great light flashed all around me, 7 and I fell to the ground and heard a voice say to me: ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?’ 8 I answered: ‘Who are you, Lord?’ And he said to me: ‘I am Jesus the Naz·a·reneʹ, whom you are persecuting.’ 9 Now the men who were with me did see the light, but THEY DID NOT HEAR THE VOICE OF THE ONE SPEAKING TO ME.
Acts 26:12 “While doing this as I was traveling to Damascus with authority and a commission from the chief priests, 13 I saw at midday on the road, O King, a light beyond the brilliance of the sun flash from heaven around me and around those traveling with me. 14 And when we had all fallen to the ground, I HEARD A VOICE to me in the Hebrew language: ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?
This hearing a SOUND and understanding what was being SAID are different things.
John 12:28 Father, glorify your name.” Then a voice came out of heaven: “I have glorified it and will glorify it again.”
29 The crowd that was standing there HEARD IT and began to say that IT HAD THUNDERED. Others said: “An angel has spoken to him.”
Understanding what was being said was only meant for those to whom it was intended.
It was very nice to see that.
I have to say that there are so many people who have met the Risen Christ, and many who've become martyrs that are being disregarded...
Just like how many have heard from the Buddha…
The Holy Spirit supposedly spoke to David on about Judas Iscariot's, 'place being deserted and let there be no one to dwell in it,' then why did Matthias take and take the place of Judas Iscariot if Judas Iscariot's place was to be deserted and that was one to dwell on in it then?
If Hasten decided to turn himself into 3 where if in any bible in any denomination does he explain how and why.
Will I am can you also ask Rabbi Tovia
Shocking to find out the Apostolic faith in Christ is labelled as idolatry.
The Golden Calf is the model of idolatry.
So what the writer wrote on in Matthew was either true or a lie based on what Jesus said to the disciples about what was written on in Daniel
Impressive! Even the Christian did a good job in keeping his composure. Not too long I was reading the minor prophets in the Tanak. I saw something very interesting. Reading it in context. It was in Amos 3:3-8. But verse 3:7 was the catcher. Verse three said: “ Indeed, G-d can do nothing unless He reveals His secret to Hs servants the prophets.” Wow! That tells me that any passage in the Tanak that doesn’t make it very clear that it is about Yeshua by mentioning his name or by isolating the verse, than it is not about Yeshua.
Sorry but you are incorrect. Hashem says clearly: Deuteronomy 29:29
29. The secret things belong unto Hashem: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.
@@janishart5128 I know its sad isn't it?? The lies they spew and keep regurgitating??
@@janishart5128 I once attended an Messianic Synagogue in North Dallas. One of the Rabbis there told me that Isaiah 53 was very important to them. Insinuating that if they couldn’t claim it to show the atonement of Jesus it would weaken Christianity.
@@Jebusisblatantidolatry The thing is that the secret thing that HaShem has revealed to the prophets will always be greater than what HaShem reveals to us. Because what Gd has revealed to the prophets is enforced in Scripture.
@@Jebusisblatantidolatry All I am saying is that is a balance. I am not disagreeing with you.
Then people say to me, wait a minute! I thought that you said just now that you believe only what Rabbi Tovia Singer believes about what was written on by Moses and the Prophets in the Tanakh about the messiah suffering then being the first to rise from the dead according to the hebrew scriptures
Just as the New Testament writer's wrote the same thing in Daniel was written that Jesus repeated which wasn't written on in the other Gospel's only on in Matthew
The prophet who wrote about that is the one that is based on having written Psalm 16
Didn't Abraham talk to Jesus too in 1988?
God is not a man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind, has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not make it good? Numbers 23.:19 Deuteronomy 4:39 know this day and lay it to thy ❤ heart, that the Lord, he is God in heaven above and upon the Earth beneath, there is no one else.
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God has a son.
- Proverbs 30:4
- Psalm 2:6-12
Isaiah 8:13-14 says the Lord lays a stumbling block before Israel. Both the Talmud (Sanhedrin 38A) and New Testament (1 Peter 2:8) agree that Isaiah 8:13-14 is a Messianic passage which means the Lord is also the Messiah.
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Replacement theology isn’t an option that is on the Table.
- Romans 9:4
- Romans 11:1
- John 4:22
- 2 Samuel 7:24
- Deuteronomy 7:6
God references Israel as a son, yes (Hosea 11:1, Exodus 4:22).
But also as the spouse (Jeremiah 3, Song of Songs, Hosea 2:19-21). The church is the spouse of the Messiah (Ephesians 5:22-33).
@@johnmann8659 no the xtian church not included
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Israel had a Levitical priesthood that atoned for sin (Leviticus 17:11, 1 Samuel 3:13-14). However, over time, there were too many Levitical transgressions for the system to be able to atone for sin.
- Malachi 2:1-10
- 2 Chronicles 29
- Ezekiel 44:7
- 1 Kings 12:31-33
The Old Covenant at large was also broken.
- Deuteronomy 31:16
- Jeremiah 11:10
- Isaiah 24:5
- Hosea 8:1
The Abrahamic Covenant was even broken.
- Genesis 17:9-14 --> 1 Maccabees 15:1
Which is why a New Covenant that provided atonement for the nation's sins had to be given.
- Jeremiah 31:31-33 --> Ezekiel 16:59-63
I've never seen a contradiction in tanakch
i found one while putting kings and chronicles together. Jehu, while cutting off the house of ahab, kills the northern king and the southern king, but the narrative of the death of the southern king is different in the two books. in one Jehu pursues the king, northward i think, to ?miggido?, again if i remember correctly, and slays him. in the other book, the same king is brought to Jehu in Samaria where he is killed. There might be a resolution, but I don't know what it is. It seems a severe contradiction as contradictions go. How can you pursue to one place and kill a king, but have him brought to you in another place for execution?
@@AB-bm2ip verses??
“And He said to Aḇram, “Know for certain that your seed are to be sojourners in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them, and they shall afflict them four hundred years. “But the nation whom they serve I am going to judge, and afterward let them come out with great possessions.”
Berĕshith (Genesis) 15:13-14
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“And the sojourn of the children of Yisra’ĕl who lived in Mitsrayim was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to be at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, on that same day it came to be that all the divisions of יהוה went out from the land of Mitsrayim.”
Shemoth (Exodus) 12:40-41 TS2009
“Yehoyaḵin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Yerushalayim three new moons and ten days. And he did evil in the eyes of יהוה.”
Diḇre haYamim Bĕt (2 Chronicles) 36:9 TS2009
Vs
“Yehoyaḵin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Yerushalayim three new moons. And his mother’s name was Neḥushta the daughter of Elnathan of Yerushalayim.”
Melaḵim Bĕt (2 Kings) 24:8 TS2009
@Eben it was 400 year since the birth of Isaac. The land of Israel was canaan and not yet given to Israel. We then descended into Egypt where we did become slaves until Moshe was sent to redeem us. It is an amazing prophecy one of the most incredible of history
21:08 Boom! If you read Tanakh enough you will began to understand the character of YHWH. He is explicit when it comes to His instructions we are to live by and the rewards/consequences for obedience/disobedience to Him. He tells us to no put our trust in princes (includes politicians?) and the son of man…I do not put my trust in them. Period.
In the Old Testament, when the people would commit sins, they had to offer up a lamb sacrifice in ord for The Almighty Creator to forgive them of their sins. If Yehoshua, Yeshua, Jesus is NOT your Lamb that was offered up to the Almighty Creator, so that your sins may be foregen, then "WHERE IS YOUR LAMB that you have offered up to the Almighty Creator, so that your sins you have committed may be forgiven? You are going to need a lamb in order for the Almighty Creator to forgive you of your sins. Because the Bible tells us in the (NLT) Hebrew 9:22...Without the shedding of blood (of a lamb) THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS OF SIN.
Go study with a rabbi. You know nothing about the sacrificial system Hebrews 9:22 quotes the passage out of context. Besides the pascal lamb was not a sin offering.
Rabbi Tovia Singer says: Beware of Solberg wolves in sheep's clothing.
So if we use the "6th sense " logic, every religion that follows Judaism and christianity can be true because they have a new revelation. Islam can be true also. And same could be said for Mormonism.
In addition, Jonah spent 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the fish... but Jesus only spent 2 nights in the grave, not 3. So it doesn't even match...
If Islam is true, then both Christians AND Jews are in big trouble!
Think.
Ok I can’t listen to this dude. 100% rasha
Mr Hall,
I feel McBride is incorrect with his interpretation of Son of Man being the collective nation of Israel. He says it is a metaphor for God's people. He thinks it's allegorical for the nation of Israel. He is wrong.
Jesus does allude to his being the Son of Man, and Him coming on the clouds of heaven (Matt 24:30). That is fine.
“And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; his kingdom shall be an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.’”
Daniel 7:27 ESV
1. Given that the power and authority goes to God’s people, does this destroy the view that Jesus is the Son of Man when the power is given to the remnant?
2. In Dan 7 we have:
V13, 14 prophesies that the kingship and dominion will be given to the Son of Man
V27b, "His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will serve and obey Him.’
McBride should understand that a king is not a king without a kingdom. The saved, according to V27a is given to "the people, the saints of the Most High". The nV27b says that the Son of Man will rule over them.
This is a simple description of the place that the saved will occupy - rulers in the kingdom of God whose KING is the Son of Man. This is consistent with the following verses: • Rev 11:15 , 12:10, 14:14-16, and 20:4-6
"And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. ... Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years."
The verses in the video do not entail that the Son of the Man is identified with plurality of saints of God and His Jewish people. It's possible that this plurality has the mentioned dominion through the ONE and a SINGULAR person of the Son of Man. God d gives to this term exactly this interpretation and it's clear He regards the Son of the Man as a solid, personal spiritual being, whom He also identifies with His own Person!
Also the Isaiah 42:4, the Lord interprets the Messianic Ruler not as any sort of a collective chosen nation of Israel, in whom other, heathen nations will put their hope, but a concrete Person - Himself.
I guess, the Lord's interpretation has an upper hand over all other interpretations, for He, being the Logos, is the very epistemological Principle of doing any interpretation, Himself needing no other Principle for that.
Son of Man and Son of God: One is spiritual, the other is flesh. He came down as God in the flesh (son of man), to claim his kingdom on Earth, and now his abode in his heavenly kingdom. Man (a human) is also known as a son of man and sons of God; one is flesh, one is spiritual.
I ask that you forward this to McBride. Perhaps even send to Skobac and your friend Singer.
I have always had a feeling Paul was set up and forced to claim he believed in the Jesus story.
The original writing was the one that would have been before the Israelites were in Moab
The Christian apologist literally made a fool of himself by seeking to logically explain the paganistic concepts of his religion!! He must be a courageous man!! The other two guys are simply brilliant!! Gosh, why are even learned Christians unable to see obvious truths?
I have never heard of this McBride. See my comments up top, neither have replied thus far.
@@janishart5128 Replace all the key words in your paragraph with 'jews' and 'rabbis'.
R.L. Solberg Stine New Testament Goosebumps
Back in design school we had an old credo that went, "bend it to fit, paint it to match". Design and engineering is a precise vocation and thus it was a funny way of saying when you goofed up and parts weren't lining up or fitting together, 'perfectly' you could FORCE it to fit and get away with it. Of course, even when using the credo, everyone understood something wasn't right. 😉
We can certainly see a valiant attempt on the part of the New Testament writer's to make it 'fit into' the Jewish Scripture. However, the mistranslations, tampering and corruptions of multiple verses of the Hebrew Scripture exposes the deception in high relief. Unfortunately, most Christians cannot read Hebrew and are unaware of these corruptions making them completely unaware of the cost of this ignorance.
There are lots of Hebrew-speaking Jews in Israel who come to the knowledge of the truth and accept Jesus as their Messiah God of Israel.
This fact doesn't sit well with your bogus claim that "Unfortunately, most Christians cannot read Hebrew and are unaware of these corruptions making them completely unaware of the cost of this ignorance."
Besides, the OT was written in Biblical Hebrew which is a dead language nobody speaks today so whether you can read modern Hebrew you still need to read the Bible with a proper dictionary (Biblical Hebrew dictionary).
By the way, I can easily demonstrate that it is Judaism that depends for its dear life on mistranslations, tampering and corruptions of multiple verses of the Hebrew Scripture.
Watch Zev Porat here YT
One example is Psalm 45.
The Messiah is referred to as God (Elohim) anointed by God, his God:
*"Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."*
This proves the Messiah is God in the flesh and God is a Trinity.
In one of your Tanakhs, this passage reads as follows, "Thy throne, O Judge, is forever and ever..."
while the other one (Stone Edition Tanach) reads, "Thy throne, FROM GOD, is forever and ever..."
Clearly, the translators had one agenda in mind when tampering with the meaning of the passage but they used different approaches that betray an evil intent on their part.
Another example is Isaiah 52:15 which reads, *"So shall he SPRINKLE (נָזָה) many nations..."*
The word SPRINKLE (נָזָה) is used in Tanakh in reference to the BLOOD of sacrifice as in Lev. 16:
*"And he shall take of the BLOOD of the bullock, and SPRINKLE (נָזָה) it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he SPRINKLE (נָזָה) of the BLOOD with his finger seven times."*
The servant shall sprinkle many nations with the BLOOD of his covenant through the EUCHARIST!
Here's how the same passage is translated in your Tanakhs:
*"So shall he cast down many nations..."*
*"So the many nations shall exclaim about him..."* (the Stone Edition Tanach)
Why? You know the answer.
And here's how Isaiah prophetically describes the rabbis MO where they are coming from:
*"Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves."*
In the book called, The Great Controversy Ellen G. White wrote what was written on of the opposite of what apostle Paul and John of Patmos took and wrote
R.L. Solberg/Stine: 'Reader beware! your in for a scare!'
This is the best non debate debate ever!😂
If we view the prophets and read them in Christy mode, then Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior. יאאָֽנֹכִ֥י אָֽנֹכִ֖י יְהֹוָ֑ה וְאֵ֥ין מִבַּלְעָדַ֖י מוֹשִֽׁיעַ:
would have to read;
I,I am the Lord, and besides Me there is no 'Jesus'.
Christy shades of baptism should be the follow up.
When the Scriptures says all Scriptures are inspired or God breath, they were referring to the OT, because the NT was not yet written, but was being written, a little here, and a little there. The Original Hebrew Scriptures were inspired by the Almighty Creator, Yehovah Elohym, but when people began to make copies of the OT, The Tanakh, The Original Ancient Hebrew Scrolls, for various reasons men began to make mistakes of their copies of the OT, The Tanakh, The original Ancient Hebrew Scriptures. Therefore, the Original Hebrew Scriptures were inspired by God, or God breathed, but the copies with the mistakes were not inspired by God. They were basically copies with mistakes, that were written by men, by the best of their ability.
Jesse: 'And i saw a family who had been in a car accident back in 1960's......' Ellen G. White: 'If there was a scripture saying that people had been transported to heaven at the moment of death according to what was written on by the New Testament which is not true
I will say though, to make this fare, let this discussion only be between the two guest. So it wont be tathered as a tag team against a christian. Because when i noticed several times in this show that William would mention something that took the guest off their topic. No offense to you at all William.
And Rabbi Tovia Singer knows the same Hebrew scriptures right you said that you believe the same thing as what he believes about the messiah right?
The son of G-d simply means a person who is righteous. There were many "sons of man" in the Old Testament. The phrase that has been coined is sons by the ton. I like Liam's point that they always try to take unclear verses and interpret them in their favor, while they ignore explicit verses that would negate their position. Christians always misinterpret intentionally, because the ends justifies the means. As Paul said, to the Jews he becomes like one of them and to the Gentiles he appears as one of them in order to promote his view. Otherwise known as lies.
the son of man simply means "human"
@@thewarriorwounds3124 Yes, like in Psalms 8 the son of man meaning Issac. A person as opposed to a god or deity. Like son of G-d means a righteous person. Don't get it twisted.
@@User_pr3uLn5jzk And he gave that authority away to his apostles. And in the Our Father given by Esa AS when he was asked to demonstrate how one should pray, it clearly gives the information that we all have the power to forgive sin. "And forgive those who trespass against us. So.......yah
@@sondrameyer2816 Son of G-d is Jacob/Israel/The Jewish people. Ben Adam (son of man) means human being. Period. Doesn't have to be a righteous person, just a person.
@Sonia No it isn't. Being from Israel with my first language being Hebrew, Ben adam (son of man) doesn't mean messiah. Moshiach means messiah. If Israel is G-d's divorced wife, why is He so good to us? I wouldn't trade my life for yours if you paid me all the money in the world.
Then in a letter i say, if Tovia had known what was written on about the messiah then he wouldn't have took and done what he had done to the messiah
Rabbis consistently disagree on various interpretations so I don't know why one would expect Paul's interpretation to be "Orthodox".
Big problem mr.solberg the new testament authors and your Jesus did not interpret the Hebrew scripture
THEY CHANGED IT TO COMPORT WITH PAGAN BELIEF
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Pagan beliefs?
@Sonia g-d commanded and you don’t like it? Lol g-d literally does not care if you like his commands.
@johnmann8659 yep look things up my brother Christianity has adopted all pagan rituals in their holidays
Did your Jesus decorate trees and eat chocolate bunnies?
There is a reason why your holidays are not in your book
But Jewish holidays are in lev.23
All Jewish denominations celebrate their holidays the same time
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@Sonia
May HaShem deal with your deceit according to the nearly 1 dozen times you posted this same exact message. It’s called spamming and serves only to highlight your ignorance and your inadequate message.
In actuality it’s xtians who are obsessed with demons as depicted in the story of the two demon-possessed men (or is it one?-YOUR NT is confused about it) and the demon-possessed pigs that jesus allegedly ran off a cliff into the sea. That’s in Mark, Matthew and Luke, although there are other demons running around YOUR NT.
But the height of your hypocrisy can be seen in Ephesians 6, which ascribes powers to the devil-aka satan, the true object of your worship-powers that G-d never gave him!
@Sonia
For what seems like a dozen times you spammed this comments section re: your false claim about demons on Yom Kippur
But NO, it’s YOUR NT that is rife with stories of demons and evil spirits. The story of the demon-possessed men and demon-possessed pigs driven off a cliff and into the sea in Mark 5/Matt 8/Luke 8 is only one example. You are projecting the xtian obsession with demons onto others.
And ascribing to the devil powers that G-d never gave him, as done in Ephesians 6, shows the god exalted by YOUR NT, satan.
But it’s not surprising that you don’t understand this as you’re too busy here criticizing HaShem’s perfect Torah to even read YOUR book of fiction.
12:49 they were also Jews who were steeped in idaoltry. Still this day
Problem 1: Christians and Jews read the inspired word of God (a god) DIFFERENTLY! Problem 2: Soldberg is more than suggesting to skew the reading of the OT based on the conclusion that Jesus is the messiah. Problem 3: It requires a 'Christian' perspective Problem 4: Isaiah 53 is not about the messiah. He ignores previous and post chapters. Problem 5: He is equating the flawed Christian methodology to deciphering scriptures with how Jews do. So, the Jews do or did it, so we can too. Problem 6: He admits that there is no OT scripture that specifically mentions the resurrection. This is a huge and important admission. What god, what responsible god, does not clearly mention what the messiah of the UNIVERSE is to be before he comes??? Total mystery (aka Jesus) to the monotheistic world until thousands of years later!? Soldberg has made some 'interesting' and unconvincing arguments in the past.