That's exactly why I hate all of these ideas. They keep making them and popping up every single 1 to 2 months and non of them work. They all say they are different and new but literally zero work effectively
I bought one of the cheap peltier dehumidifiers from amazon. 40% humidity, it makes 10 drops a day on 22 watts of power. My main ac unit makes more than 3 gallons a day on 3600 watts of power. You better have a lot of power available:)
@@KevinSmith-os5yz Solar panel is about 150w per square meter. Therefore, for about 24 sqm, you will be able to enjoy your AC and less than a gallon of water during the day time. Sorry about the night time....
As a retired mechanical engineer I have used Peltier devices for cooling in my designs. The degree of success that any water from air project is reliant on, is the system design, and detail design . The biggest problem facing this technology is how up scaleable is it, vs cost of a large scale plant. In the poorest regions, where a scaled up system could be most useful, but also where there are no large amounts of money either to afford one. No peltiers are not the solution here. What is needed is a system that can be made locally, using local materials and very low technology being involved. I believe that a very large tent like structure, with air slats , and a central shaft that is dug down deep in the sand, and umbrellar type steel u type columns that go back down and meet the central column will work, using natural condensation. The idea is that under the Blacken out tent, the condensate is created by the intense heat in the tent, and during the night the water droplets that have formed on the metal u shaped channels, run down into the central water collector which is cooled in a large underground tank. The water can be pumped up to the surface using a simple mechanical lift pump. The desert sun which can make air temperatures reach 45 degree celsius in the day, will provide the energy, the greenhouse type tent will capture the moisture, and the coolness of the night will allow the condensate to collect underground. Something long these lines, is a more practical way of extracting moiture from the air.
@@markae0 , When it comes to visiting, safety, and conflict across the entire Sahara at Large, your comment is an overgeneralized statement that misleads people from the actual truth. There are places in countries located within the Sahara boundaries that you can visit safely as long as you do your homework ahead of time and make sure there's not a current conflict that could affect safety in the area you want to visit. Your statement leaves a person who is educated on the subject to believe that you haven't done your homework about the diversity of the sahara's cultures and current issues. What you say about safety is true about some areas but it's completely false about the current local political climate in other accessible areas.
@@brianwnc8168 No sir, you are the one with the rose-coloured goggles. The whole of africa is one corrupt shithole and you know it, but prefer to denie it and look down on people who live in the real world. BLM-fan and woke, i presume?
Not wanting to be a wet blanket here, but I've seen at least 3 projects claiming to be able to extract enough water from air in very dry parts of the world to make a difference and they all eventually went quiet and disappeared. Thunderfoot's channel has addressed one or two of these solutions and explained the physics behind why they never manage to extract enough water to make a difference. I'm also not sure that these machines would withstand the conditions in a desert environment such as the Sahara for long. For instance, one sand storm could bury them for good or at least render them inoperable. And finding someone reliable who understands the importance of taking care of these things will be a big problem. People in the Sahara usually only see advantage in work that offers them personal direct benefit (not really that different to the west). The concept that an occupation is worth doing for free because it benefits others as well is not going to motivate many people. There would therefore have to be some re-enumeration system that finances and guarantees supervision.
these scam project claim to make a breakthrough claiming they discovered or invented a new way to harvest water .... in this video its legit just condensation that takes hours even days to just get a cup of drinking water ... so this is all bullocks and a scam for people to pay for their kickstarter
The point of these solutions are probably targeted towards getting water for an individiuls, specifically poor individuals, to have their own devices. Many of them can gather such devices, and scale up gradually over time. Such machines probably only work in specific environments too, so it's not great for everyone but it is something!
@@spicychad55 Desert people can not even afford the shipping of those machines. There are also princes (or similar officials) and their freinds who have desert homes but they live in excess anyways. Also the desert always have sea size underground water if you can dig and make a well.
How many times does Thunderfoot have to debunk this stuff? These thing are simple dehumidifiers, and they work best where there is a lot of humidity in the air... ie, not the desert.
But this system is great in parts of the deserts on the coastlines , I am thinking of the desert in Morocco Chile and even in California ...along the coasts there is a lot of humidity just waiting to be harvested....
@@TheSchiffReport just because they are near the sea, doesn’t mean the humidity is high. Cold ocean currents, mountain ranges or prevailing winds on west coasts dump rain before it hit landfall, flow straight out to the sea near the coast or not carrying any moisture of significance. There are some fog nets used to collect water, but any attempt at capturing the moisture is hit and miss.
@@madsam0320 WTF you talking about ....I have lived on the Moroccan southern coastline and it is almost always foggy ....there are presently fog harvesting installations near Sidi Ifni and the results are spectacular, there are several videos about these , you just have to search ...similar installations are on the coast of Chile (where this technology was first appeared)and elsewhere .....
Can we talk about placing mangroves along the coastal areas around Sahara to increase transpiration? High tech solutions are a degenerative system of diminishing returns. And yet those farmers are still in using the most degenerative land practices in the world there, but lets ignore that. Just like were ignoring it here.
@@hookedgamer actually natural resources is worth money, especially when they increase water and help against land degradation, it saves countries money
i'd like to see a cost analysis of getting water this way vs long distance irrigations and piping with and without desalinization plants. e.g. how much is a galllon of water produced through this solar method vs a gallon produced through irrigation methods.
Aren't we comparing apples to oranges? This is a fully self-contained unit that is also decentralized and not dependent on any external infrastructure. It may or may not work as a global scale solution to solve water access but the question is, does it even need to? It is also not some high tech solution and is quite simple in its implementation. Comparing it to a massive public works infrastructure solution would be a disservice to both solutions as both solve two very different problems, or two very different classes of problems. In fact, the real question to ask is, why not both? Why are we forcing this choice to choose one over the other? You could use multiple such centralized and decentralized solutions on a "as it makes sense" basis. And by the way, this solution would be completely free in terms of running cost (besides occasional maintenance). It is powered by solar panels which drive the fan that cools the unit to cause condensation. The only cost worth mentioning is the initial purchase cost. And I am sure a large public works infrastructure involving digging thousands of miles of canals or pipes isn't exactly cheap either. And that's putting it mildly. And if i understand their claims, if you have a 1kw panel (which should be about 4 panels - not much - which should cost about $600-$800 USD or so), assuming 10 hours of strong sunlight a day which is very reasonable for a desert, it would produce 3 liters of water an hour or 30 liters of water a day.
@@arunramachandran5012 first off, there's no such thing as free. And we're not comparing apples to oranges, we're comparing cost to cost. There is a fixed cost for the manufacture of the device and then it has a life span after which you need to replace it. You add up all the total costs and divide that into how much water it makes and get a price per ounce. Then you do the same with price per ounce of water that is delivered to the same area via more traditional means. Since there's no such facility yet, you would have to do some estimates based on known costs of water procurement in other similar areas. Once you have your numbers you just look at which is cheaper and spend your investment there. There's no need to have both when you just need one kind of water, which is just water. It would be like paying 2 different water utilities to provide your home with running water. Why pay 2 when you can pay just 1? Also, I would almost guarantee that if you need substantial quantities of water you're still going to want to go the traditional route of pipes and pumps. But if we're talking about supplying drinking water to a small village, then maybe these solar condensers would be the better option assuming they can last a long time without needing parts and labor. I doubt the average Saharan villager knows enough about how to repair and maintain one of these so it would need to last a long time without needing any upkeep.
@Viễn-Phương deserts are greening and the Sahara IS shrinking on its own. The primary assumption of this clip is wrong! Even NASA admits that and they believe that the greening occurs because there’s more CO2 to fertilize plants.
@@C_R_O_M________ What absolute nonsense, most deserts are growing because there are far too many people. The Middle East was green and lush once, before we got started on it with goats, that is why we invented agriculture there. I am a horticulturalist I can tell you that the slight increase in atmospheric CO2 does not compensate for loss of moisture and increased storm frequency in most areas. Most plants hate big changes they like stability. The plants that grow more will be in the Northern temperate areas, like trees in Siberia but unfortunately melting permafrost will release more greenhouse gases.
@@ericconnor8419 you are talking nonsense. There’s a dedicated satellite that monitors the World’s foliage and the whole world is actually greening as well as the Sahel (lower Sahara)! If you get your news from media outlets you’ll never know that. Go search for NASA, CO2 and greening earth see what comes up then look for a paper about the Sahara and the Sahel itself.
Is it due to reliability that they are using peltier elements, cause they are not very efficient, but they might be more reliable than a compressor. I must say I am very skeptical of this project, I hope they have thought this through.
The machines presented in this video are very inefficient dehumidifiers. They produce very little water when the air is dry (like in the desert) and need a very large solar panel surface area, making this water extremely expensive. We agree with the debunking videos of Thunderf00t. Still, our company Aquahara is testing a more efficient process, which produces 2 liters of water per day per square meter of solar collectors under dry desert conditions. This is still expensive, but the technology is evolving and getting more cost-effective over time, just like with the photovoltaic industry 10 years ago.
@@robtherub Currently, we do not have open positions, unfortunately. You can still send me an email (see my address on our website). Best regards, Philippe
@@aquahara8691 Thank you for your reply, sincerely, my name is rob.... talking here is fine, i am not a person needs paying, may be able to invest money actully. The idea is glass canals made of glass, the glass is made of sand, power sunshine, all free, thick double canal base, thin glass roof airtight, double skinned, water cooled, left canal seawater, inverse, locks pumped upwards when necassary, constant return flow so no heavily salinated sea output. Needs ocean water connection. Location Gambia, West Sahara or The Sinai, Egypt, that is after all, the holy grail of permculture, according to John D Lieu (?) ... the right canal is immediately growing sand growable plants from condensate and immediately have enough to grow forever like a garden in a sealed bottle growing for 60 years on the same water. A thin green line across the tropic of cancer outputting fresh water all the way across. A plague of locusts can simply be welcomed into the airtight tunnels. There are doors. Which can close and the thing can be flooded with CO2. Once Sinai mountain is green though, that alone will do the job, instead of the upward push of the hot air from that desert driving the mediteranean evaporated sea moisture onto pakistan and bangladesh every year, once the rivers of mount Sinai are flowing again that moisture will draw the meditarranian moisture over the once, ond soon to be again, fertile crescent, remoisturising egypt and returning the mighty kingdom of Abysinnia to the Garden of Eden, as the rain falls again on Lalibella, Jah, Ras'Tafari.
@@robtherub Hi Rob, your idea of using solar energy to desalinate seawater makes a lot of sense. Seawater desalination will always be cheaper than atmospheric water generation, even with the Aquahara system. But we are working on atmospheric water as an alternative water source for inland regions, far away from seawater desalination plants. Atmospheric water will remain rather expensive because of the (solar) energy requirement. So in any case, it has to be combined with wastewater recycling systems and it only makes sense in regions that have very little rainfall and where groundwater is depleted.
Peltier cooling is energy intensive and inefficient. It relies on temperature differential. Putting an aluminium/copper heatsink, in full sun, isn't going to dump heat very well at all. Perhaps if the solar panel charges a battery then it may dump enough heat at night, with a certain Dew Point. Oh and it is R/H (relative humidity), not, repeat NOT absolute humidity. I worked for Carrier . I've done university on all of this, including electrical engineering!
On top of all that you said, which I agree with. There is still just a finite amount of water available. So what happens when that is used up? Instead of increasing the amount of water which is available we have to be reducing our demand for it. How do we do that? Reduce our population. That is the root cause of all of our problems. If we do not find a humane way of reducing our population then the natural processes on our planet will kick in. Waiting for or allowing nature to run it's course is probably the least humane option of all. Mother Nature is not necessarily known for her kindness, especially in situations where a species has outgrown it's capacity to feed it self.
I've considered a similar machine, but less complex. 1. Some kind of mass with high surface area and high thermal conductivity (copper perhaps) coated with hydrophobic paint. 2. Super reflective surface on top to cool 1 at night while not gaining too much heat during the day. 3. Surround/protect 1 inside a pipe for Stack Effect. Goal would be to reach below Dew Point during night, particularly a few hours before dawn. If it works it's much more easily mass produced, even though copper is expensive. If it works at all with copper, it might also work with aluminum which is much cheaper. Ideally it would be a fairly tall structure for larger Stack Effect and since it is like a cool chimney it would draw air from higher up (humid air is lighter than dry air according to wikipedia).
I agree. these guys are assholes. I also have chem eng degree and i can sketch a design simpler and 3x more efficient. I may do this--- except i believe those who breed to excess and over graze their community should sort themselves out!
sun power > charges solar panels (or creates steam from sea water by passing sun through fresnel lenses) > runs electric water pumps > pumps salt water from ocean > to solar water distillation plants > fresh water carried to arid regions by canals + solar (or steam) powered water pumps > water feeds trees > microclimates created > clouds form above trees > rain falls
Treating the symptoms but not the cause. land degradation should be reversed. Farmers need to be taught how to work with the land. Recarbonisation, growing trees and grasses etc. I have seen in northern Botswana how this land degradation has destroyed forests and ancient migratory routes for elephants because the government encouraged peasant farmers to grow their food in a country that is not suitable for farming. It is sacrilege what has happened. The desert in Botswana will soon encroach on what used to be pristine forests.
It showed you a solution (not a good one at that) about a nonexistent problem as the Sahara (and the whole world, for that matter) is actually greening.
It's not, it's just a gimmick, a solar powered dehumidifier it was invented in the 1970s. People like things like this because it reassures them life can carry on the same with a few technical tweaks. It can't. Watch Thunderfoot some time, how many 'free water in the desert' machines have been developed over the last 50 years.
@@ericconnor8419 life could carry on fine if governments didn’t f_up the energy sector by pushing for expensive and unreliable renewables (that are not even ecological solutions- by their own criteria). For life to carry on fine you need cheap and abundant energy, fertilizers, pesticides, etc. Governments are doing the exact the opposite of what they were supposed to. Take Germany for example. It closed down nuclear and lignite energy plants, pushed for renewables and gas from Russia and ended up with very expensive energy, buying nuclear from France and gas from a foe (Russia) and even worse air quality than it started with (even more CO2 emissions)! Now they are running like headless chicken to see what they’ll do going forward. Incredible stuff.
I'm really interested to know the cost of these machines. I was recently watching a video about Saudi Arabia's water shortage problems. While this might not immediately fix the agricultural problems, I've heard that there is a domestic water problem in Saudi Arabia. If every home was equipped with these machines, that would lessen the problem a lot. Saudi Arabia is a wealthy country. They could afford to invest in this product, whether it be the average Saudi, or the government. If that were to happen, this technology could have a huge catalyst, and be better placed to help the people of less wealthy countries that need it.
It's a scam. These are not and never will be, a viable source of water generation, because it's impossible to remove more water from the air than the air actually contains. The technology isn't new, it's been around for decades and at no point in all that time have they ever been viable for water production. Not even vaguely viable.
if a 100 kw unit per month costs 10k to buy and has a 20 year lifespan then it will produce 300 liter per month or 3600 per year or 720,000 over a 20 year span. that means you are paying 1.38 cents per liter ($10,000/720,000). that’s not terrible but it needs to get 100x cheaper as water costs about $.0001, not $.0138
This device uses energy to remove water from the air, making that air drier so it is ready to absorb water from adjacent areas at a higher rate. So you are increasing the desert's dryness in the area surrounding the device. If there is a breeze, then the area downwind of the device will be an increased desert area. Then you can dump the water back into this drier area and irrigate it? The dark solar panel absorbs more light which would otherwise be reflected back into space from the lighter colored sand. The increased light absorption increases the temperature of the solar panel and surrounding air, increasing the local desertification. You can't get anything for free.
Even if this were done on a large enough scale to do actual harm, it still wouldnt matter since the soil is already as dry as it can get... Like who cares if sand gets a little bit dryer? You're assuming that the collected water would normally be absorbed by the ground, which doesnt happen in already completly dry araes
@@Illuminati_HD You Said, " it still wouldnt matter since the soil is already as dry as it can get" Not true. The Sahara gets about 3 inches of rain per year. Much of that rain is absorbed into the sand and then evaporated back into the air over the next days - months until the next rain. The dryer the air, the quicker the evaporation takes place and the dryer the sand becomes. It is true that very dry areas absorb the water less readily. If none of the water was absorbed by the ground, then there wouldn't be oases.
@@LeafofLifeWorld if only you didn't lie about the Sahara expanding! The Sahara and the whole World is actually GREENING (so deserts are shrinking) and that's even on NASA's own site. You see they have a dedicated satellite to measure world foliage coverage. Too bad you made all that effort on a false premise!
This video and all the information about the technology is great ! Thanks. And I hope many people who see this , could be their brains immediately got ideas ! Thats a fact ; when one idea is exposed many will follow . It would be great if we can help this Planet to be healthy and green again !
40 000 years ago , the sahara was bigger , much of asia a desert , and the ice cover also huge , mainly white I think . So .... much less green than today , but healthy nevertheless or what ? I don't see technological gimmics as " earth médecine " ... 😉
@@C_R_O_M________ that's what I heard too ... it's got to be true because population doubles every 30 years in the area ... and well they were starving 50 years ago .... but it's something I heard too . Never been there ,
@@thierrylandrieu7441 they are deleting my answer to you. Search for “Nasa, co2 greening planet” and you’ll see a NASA link. However, they are deleting my answer when I go into some very crucial details about their narrative.
@@C_R_O_M________ hello , yes they destroy links it takes too much memory space . I know Nasa reports . You can also check that corals grow faster due to CO2 ... the whole " acidification " story is dumb ... we had the " acid rains" story 40 years ago , and here we are ... only thing is as forest grow faster , the whole ecosystem is disrupted and they don't look in the right place for causation . Disrupted just means changing , in my meaning .
Just what desert dwellers need! A dehumidifier! Act now! No. The air is DRY. so very little water in the air. Every few years people rediscover dehumidifiers. Thing is dehumidifiers in dry air can't capture much. Sunblaze. Whatever _ there is no science that makes water condense when there is no water to. Condense. Desalination is cheaper. More work is needed. The maximum efficiency is hard to believe that some breakthrough changes thermodynamics. It's a good way to raise a lot of cash. It is the perennial dream.
Italy used cardboard placed in a trough of sea water in a long green house, sunlight cause the water to evaporate and then at night the condensate settles on the glass and runs into a trough and is now salt free distilled.
This is very practical with green houses where the irrigation water is practically recycled as it cannot escape the green house hence keeping the greenhouse perpetually humid and creating a local micro climate (Hot + Humid) This is genius....
Awesome! I think we need to have many more of these in the desert area to reduce climate crisis. I would suggest to run it at night time to collect more water since the moisture is higher at night time if power is an issue. I think we can transform the desert into an oasis again with technologies like these. Thanks
I live in the desert by the Salton Sea it doesn't rain much here it's hot temperatures get up to 120 degrees but humidity is high because of the lake here is drying up I'm trying to make a machine like you got to make fresh water so I can plant trees to help cool things down and turn the desert into a lush forest to clean the air and grow food plus help keep the dust storm at bay and keep the wind from stripping the top soil that is needed for plants to grow we have no water here where we are at we have to truck in our water a water generator is needed I'm running on solar since we have plenty of sunlight here
When you get your "free water from the air", what happens down stream in the ecosystem? One that is precariously balanced to work with X amount of moisture in the air? Like all human inventions it would seem that the right here, right now is much more important than the repercussions that might be realized in a few years. Take lake Mead for example and the water shortage fiasco it has created in 4 states.
Lake Mead has been shrinking for 20+ years so the fact those States are acting like it’s something new is insulting. The casinos in Vegas should’ve built a desalination plant in California and pump the water to Vegas 20 years ago they chose not to that’s their fault. You charge everybody a dollar per night to pay for it it would’ve been paid for, it could’ve been upgraded they could have had the best of the best and only pumping it 300 miles Alaskan pipeline is 700 miles long don’t say it can’t be done. Only in America do we see the catastrophe happening wait until it’s almost completely at the zero hour and then decide to do something about it. I don’t believe in God I’m an atheist but according to the Bible Noah started building the boat before it started raining.
When atmospheric moisture is reduced, more water evaporates from the source (lakes. rivers. oceans, reservoirs, etc...) to return the humidity to its equilibrium point. These are human beings. If they don't get water they die. Preserving their life is priority number one, two and three. If they don't get the water they need from the air. they will get it from desalination the oceans, with far more energy expended and devastating environmental impact of the increased salinity around the effluent point.
The Lake Mead fiasco is created by those who insist on having natural grass lawns and watering them in what is essentially desert climate, by those who insist on having golf courses for leisure, and by the wasteful cunsumerism that underpins much of the U.S. economy. The desert dwellers consume a tiny fraction of the average American per capita water use. Please consider rationally before condemning.
@@tj3859 of course there are solutions out there and governments are part of the problem not the solution. Most of the times they create it and then advertise their solution (election time). Take the mismanagement of forests or example. They “protect it” to the point that excessive fuel is gathered at the bottom and then when this fuel meets a natural (or even man-made) spark, the subsequent wildfire becomes unmanageable and burns a lot more acreage to what it would burn naturally. Then they blame it on climate change which is (atm) nothing but a 1C warming “anomaly” in GATs (global average temperatures) in 150 years and coming out of LIA (little ice age) the coldest period in 10000 years and ask us for taxes in order to fix the problem they created.
Nice dream but I don't think it's practical. What happens if it breaks and you can't get parts. Heat in the desert, and blowing sand are the devil. I live in a severe drought area. Not coastal so can't use fog nets. I use greenhouse film inverted in a cone over a 8x12 kids pool. I also have polycarbonate panels attached to posts that funnel rain into the pool. I then pump the water into 55 gal food trade barrels that are buried up to the rim in the ground. Low tech, highly reliable.
If you all would sell these machines to Californians, it would generate huge revenues to help pay for projects in poor countries. I know I would buy some for my cabin in CA if not too expensive.
A close look at Israel fertile once desert land will show all the answers on how to solve the problem in the African desert too. What those Nations need most is good quality agricultural education, and governments willingness to solve all those problems related to water management.
Why not consider a design that uses locally sourced materials and can be replicated and maintained by local people easily? Solar panels don't grow on trees. It's also more ecologically conscientious as you avoid contributing to transport emissions that importing shiny metal cabinets and solar panels will produce. This sort of solution is much more appropriate in a society with a more sophisticated supply chain. Out in the bush of Africa, these units are problematic to get there and keep there. At the very least, are there domestic manufacturers within a reasonable distance of where they expect to deploy these things? Is it wise to make them reliant of foreign produced goods?
The old dream of solar panels coupled with thermocooling devices (TEC) never worked in the African continent. Nothing new here, the French did it in the 70s, EDF is still trying its mega solar power plant with solar panels which have to be cleaned once every two days (Noor 800MW, Morocco, Ouarzazate) Ah, the attraction of the off-grid market...
Yet meanwhile foreign companies come in and mine, extract all the local resources from Africa that are used in computer chips, and in batteries, these mines are poor conditions and make the communities sick, with cancer and children that are deformed, these companies happily take it all these materials, and then other people can enjoy the technologies far away from where the minerals needed to build them come from. But when its the otherwise around and African people need the technology...oh no its not okay! Geez 😒
I always like people who are looking for solutions to problems rather than to blame someone else for the problem. Great solution to a problem. Best thing: it's mobile and independent from infrastructure.
this system is great in parts of the deserts on the coastlines , I am thinking of the desert in Morocco Chile and even in California ...along the coasts there is a lot of humidity just waiting to be harvested....
Right! However the Sahara is actually greening (so does the whole world) and that's BECAUSE of more CO2 fertilization. The alarmist doom and gloom never mentions the positives of increased CO2 concentrations. CO2 which is a trace gas at just 0.04% of the atmosphere and most of it being of natural origins.
Population needs to be in balance with jobs, resources, nature and the environment. Having a bigger population in any country than the country can support makes no sense. Access to food, water, shelter, energy and jobs should guide population levels. The worlds population is still expected to add another billion people to feed, clothe and produce pollution. Humans are crowding out all other species of plants and animals. Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger. Having a child that you can not provide for yourself is cruel and irresponsible. We need solutions not just sympathy. Endless population growth is not sustainable on a finite planet. Every country needs to "TRY" to be more self sufficient. When there are not enough resources to sustain a population something has to give. Countries need to focus on quality of life for their citizens and not just quantity of life for cheap labor. Why import fossil fuels when wind and solar energy can be produced locally and solar energy can power electric vehicles. We need solutions not just sympathy.
Nonsense! The world is close to its peak population and governments f_up everything. China is shrinking rapidly because that idiot Mao had forced a 1 kid policy and people were throwing little baby girls down the toilet!
@@cortexavery1324 Maybe Earth could feed 15 billion people, but it could not accommodate 15 billion people all using as many resources as the average first world citizen. If you want even the current population to live in comparable wealth we need to get a lot more efficient with our resources.
No. I live in the desert. Ongoing severe drought. For 3 years not a single drop of rain. The straw hasn't broken down at all. Had to take everything out of the ground and put it in air pots.
A week ago I saw something on t v . Bamboo is “magical “. Bamboo is growing up , 50-100 centimeters in a week ! Also in the earth the roots are strong and long. The shadow , and the moist in the earth make the earth , just like in rainforests , a big cool place in a desert for example. A cool place with much shadow is great to absorb water. Its dry and hot in Europe now. I am Dutch……… waiting on much water from German and France rivers 💦💦💦🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼👩🏼🦰
@@brammutje15 not if you harvest it properly. The root structure of the bamboo plant is what holds the top layer of soil in place. Once you have established a good soil base, you can add other plant materials into the soil, and overtime you create mulch which feeds the soil. Weeds and fast growing plants are extremely neccesary for binding soil.
A C3 plant unsuitable for deserts, many deserts get below freezing at night. And 'monoculture' is white man thinking, the cause of the problem in the first place,
These devices have been disproven time and time again they basically work off the same principle of a dehumidifier and a small solar panel is not going to provide enough energy to make it worth it,also you would need a lot of filtration to be able to get the metals out of the water. I would place a bet their out of business within a few years.
4:05 "inspired by looking at solution instead of placing blame" Nobody is inspired by placing blame, and people looking for solution are generally pretty clear on who or what is to blame. Seeing how the ones to blame for climate change are still dooing the thing they're blamed for, being able to punish those people would certainly be way more of a solution than this technology however clever it is.
Nonsense! First of all the Sahara is actually GREENING! So there goes your primary assumption down the drain! Secondly, climate change is now a 1C degree warming "anomaly" in GATs (Global Average Temperatures) but coming out of an ice age (LIA or Little Ice Age) that was the coldest era in 10000 years so that "anomaly" might as well be a natural occurrence coming out of a very cold period. Note that a 1C degree in GATs is something that no one would be able to detect if it wasn't for the constant propaganda from certain outlets that are professionally dependent on activism, politics and government-funded "science".
@@C_R_O_M________ Yeah so all that is obviously BS. I like the idea that the previous ice age still has any sort of impact... Still the most surprising claim to me is the idea that the Sahara greening would destroy my first assumption... No assumption in my comment rely on that. Are you actually responding to me or are you just randomly saying stuff...
@@cortexavery1324 when you propose to “punish people” for “climate change” you sound like you believe the agenda and the supposed damage humans have inflicted by burning fossil fuels. You wouldn’t propose punishing measures (for anyone) if you didn’t. I agree that, at the end o the day, someone must be held accountable for the trillions of $s that were annually spent for this fraudulent agenda but don’t go along the narrative of this clip. That’s the primary faulty assumption made. P.S. The Little Ice Age (150 years ago - when it ended) was a period with very low GATs and to juxtapose current GATs with that and call the difference “an anomaly” is disingenuous.
@@C_R_O_M________ 🤣 Thank you for explaining what the little ice age is. That does prove that this non-global event still has an impact on global temperature nowadays... Scientist obviously don't set their standard temperature on the little ice age, but you just say it and some people won't see how dumb a statement it is. What is disingenuous is the fact you keep believing that shit in a world that offers everything you need to correct yourself. Again all you say is BS. It's dumb on it's face and dumber when you go deeper. Also you did good not answering my statement about about how weirded out I was that you answered a comment without answering any of its content. One does look dumber when he aknowledges how there is even more layers of non-sense in what he says.
That’s like saying ‘meteors have always fallen on the earth so let’s just continue to fire missiles at random places on earth’ just because something happens naturally doesn’t excuse humans from making it happen unnaturally. Also, it’s not just about climate change but also air pollution, plastic pollution and general sustainability. Why wouldn’t we try to be sustainable?
@@princeofchetarria5375 "Why wouldn’t we try to be sustainable?" >>First of all the Sahara is actually shrinking because it's greening so strike one! Secondly you can't manipulate a non linear chaotic system because it's unpredictable and to a great degree unknown so sustainability claims are BSing you! Strike 2. The climate is ever-changing and at the moment we experience a 1C degree warming "anomaly" in GATs (Global Average Temperatures) but coming out of a Little Ice Age (or LIA) that was the coldest era in 10000 years. This means that the "anomaly" might as well be the natural thing to have happened. Moreover, we don't even have a way to accurately calculate GATs of 2 centuries ago since there weren't many thermometers around the World that were datalogging systematically as they do now. Even modern ground thermometers are prone to confounding factors and the most reliable temp measurements are done by satellites and weather balloons that exist only a few decades so we might as well be wrong about the 1C degree warming itself! Strike 3. The climate change agenda is clearly a political agenda linked to the UN (and UNEP).
This contraption has better efficiency at humid area. I think in dry area we should use the abundant sea water. Distillation of sea water. I would create a huge convex lens or concave mirrors that concentrate sun into a spot of metal floating on top of small collection of water. Collect the steam and condense it. Edit : oh and yeah let the steam generate a turbine for the pump and probably have enough extra generated power that contribute to the electrical grid.
As a kid I always wondered why not use solar energy to pump water from the sea, distill it, sell the salt and use the water. Like you can have rows of solar panels which generate some shade you can grow plants in with water from this, and even use water to clean the panels and also thus, moisterizing the air. There is so much energy there, put it to use.
"I think in dry area we should use the abundant sea water." The vast majority of the Sahara is very far from sea water. Same goes for most hot deserts.
This approach will never produce enough water for agriculture. At the very best it will barely produce some drinking water for humans. Probably not even enough for their daily needs. The only way to get sufficient water in deserts like the Sahara is to acess the underground aquifers left over from the last wet period. In other desert areas the only workable approach is to pipe in water from wetter aeras. The reason why the approach featured in this video will not work for the production of meaningful quantities of water is due to the physical laws that govern water evaporation and condensation. These cannot be overcome regardless of how smart a technology one uses.
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If this was scaled up... Would it not just take the water out of the air at some locations where it normally do not rain, and live the air dry reducing the amount of rain somewhere else? Also do the actually add energy to the dessert? I am assuming the sand reflects energy out to space, in the form of light. But then we collect the light using solar cells, reflecting less light, using this energy to heat the air? Thus on a large scale could this not be a overall negative thing? (Moving water for the price of more global warming?)
It's not free water: you need an industrial society and fossiel fuels to mine, build and transport that units. Adding to that, solar panels don't last forever. There's no easy solutions for such complex problems
It's going to take a many-faceted approach to fix human damage on the planet. Overpopulation is the #1 elephant in the living room Mindless consumption the #2 problem
Expanding 48 km per year south . Sounds like the almost exact measurements of the magnetic northern pole migration numbers . That those tracking the magnetic pole numbers have reported on line . And looking at the southern pole reforming ice and snow , that is reclaiming the melted and lost snow levels looks to me exactly shifting , as well in released NASA photos me is further evidence that others should be watching as well . Do to the lack of proper media news coverage . Thank you for your scientific data collected video 😎⚡️👍🏼🔥⚡️
6:38 good video but it is misleading. You will need 10 100 watt solar panels to produce 1kwph, which is a lot larger than the solar panels in the video. Even if the technology does work, you would need a massive solar array to supply a small community with water. You can forget about getting enough water to grow a garden, or water livestock.
The smaller solar panel showed in the video was for a different model, DCO3 only needs a 50cm 30-50 watt, As for the droppler20 which you time coded, the website says... We developed this compact machine with multiple power options: a 24 volt connection, so it can be directly connected to a solar energy installation, powered by a battery, or plugged into a power grid. With a cooling capacity from 80 - 620W, this highly intelligent system produces up to 3 liters of water per kWh.
Agree with you ... in some parts of the Sahara the air is too dry for this to be even remotely usable . There are on the other end huge underground water potential .
You can do the same moisture collection at night in the same region with fog nets which are way more cost effective and require no electricity or electronics of any kind.
I have to wonder if tethered balloons/dirigibles, lifting fog nets higher would be an effective way to dramatically increase cross section and yield. Or is that just adding unnecessary complexity?
@@stevenking7352 You would have a major problem with higher wind currents the higher you go plus the greater the surface of your fog net... the greater size you heliem or hydrogen floatation balloon envelopes would need to be. And than you'd be looking at the overall cost monitoring and maintaining such a system. You really want a simple system that has heavy duty post burried deep in compacted soil on a hill or ridge for your altitude gain.
Usually a simple pole framework erected uphill of you fields with storage tanks slightly below would be ideal and fields and communities slightly or further downhill from the tanks so that gravity is being used to your advantage.
Need to improve efficiency with a heat exchanger that cools input air from the post-condensation exiting air. Run the two through a tube with a divider in the middle and insulation on the outside.
This is the Future technology that is to stay for ever। Hence it has to be scaled up fast across all deserts by all countries of the world as good Service to humanity
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Yeah it's open source, because the peltier device was invented in the mid 19th century... kind of hard to patent something that's been in the public domain that long.
This water cannot be used for human or animal consumption. This technique cold/heat collecting H20 molecules into drops then streams of water has been well-known and used for millennia by the farmers in South America in order to irrigate their cultures. Furthermore, there is nothing new : The French engineers have been using solar panels since the 70s in a lot of countries in Africa. Due to the wind and sand/earth, the panels become VERY quickly inefficient. They have to be cleaned every two days. By the way, former Lybian leader Muammar Gaddafi was building green farms in the 70s-2000s (until his eviction). Evidence? Military satellite photos. The same technique is now used in Saudi Arabia.
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@@kelaarin you don’t seem to even know that the Earth is actually greening and that this whole clip is based on a lie and you wonder about secondary details?
It's not free water, that is rain. This has to be paid for with limited resources. Solar panels and batteries are neither free nor able to be produced sustainably they take rare earths and heavy metals. If you left it in the desert it would be stripped for scrap or components in a week. The desert is being caused by people stripping the land of vegetation for cooking fires and housing. Can you see the pile at 0:27? That, and goats. More water = more people = more desert.
Real! You got to love people who make the tech straight forward! When your out in the desert and need water, the thought "whats in the box" shouldn't come to mind! Anyway, looks cool that lower energy consumption device you showed there! Instead of making that all hidden! You would be on to the next project just like any of us! Really its about having water for people who need it! Emagine being lost and having random drinking taps around? Brilliant! I love whats possible!!!!!!!!
African governments near the Sahara desert never intended to introduce ecological management practices. They will need water making technologies to save their populations.
For context, model dc03 produces approximately half a glass (about 15cl) per 6 hours of operation - so you won't be watering your garden with this anytime soon.
What a scam lol The implication is that for just $3 you can have drinking water in the desert! What a mirical! Except it is not. First of all, it is $3 in active parts. A metal heat sink and a piezoelectric cooler. Those are cheap parts! But you have to assemble them, add a housing, add a powersource, packaging, and ship it to a remote location where the general income is $3 a week. And how much water will this produce in the area they want to deploy it? Maybe 1 litre a day? Not enough to justify the cost for anything other than the occasional cup of water! It's not free or even cheap. It's not efficient. It's not effective. It's a horrible idea! We already have much better commercially available products on the market. Glorified air conditioners complete with compressors, fans, etc, and for $6k they can provide about half the water needed for a typical family to survive. These are efficient, and work well, and are readily available, and are much more compact than what is shown here. If those items which are waaaaaay cheaper on a $/litre basis are not making it into the hands of people like this, how is a much worse product on all counts supposed to be helpful? The answer to desertification is better land management by governments. Do what China is doing and stabilize the soil, while adding plant matter that will break down into dirt instead of sand. Simply throwing water on sand will not fix a desert. Then you have wet sand which is porus and dries quickly, and then spreads further. Ihate stupid scam videos like this. All smiles and save the poor people with little to no thinking behind how it is supposed to actually help anything at all. What would really be innovative would be the use of some of these new "sub temperature" paints. Paint a heat sink with that, put it over a home, add some fins to the under side, and then you get a much cooler home, free water collection, and a metal roof. The water collection will mostly recycle water from inside the home where breathing, bathing, and cooking creates extra humidity in the first place making it more effective than just putting it out in the wild. And no need for a powersystem. Just keep the dirt off of it, and slap on a fresh coat of paint every few years. It would cost a bit more up front than a compressor unit, but without the power requirements it would be easier to run and maintain. And adding the idea of included air conditioning of a home by dropping the Temps 10-15*c during the heat of the day helps it pull double duty.
Most of us fathomed this out back in 1978. A bloke called Luke Skywalker made a documentary about it. I learnt about light speed too; and also that to be able to talk to my fridge I need to learn Botchi or get a protocol droid.
If I understand this setup, it is a solar panel powered dehumidifier on the roof. Wouldnt it make more sense to mount tbe panels on the roof without the need of a boom truck and power the dehumidifier inside the house? It would be easier to plumb, maintain for purity and simple to replace when the dehumidifier fails. With used panels($50 per 240w panel delivered from Suntan solar) you could run the entire setup for under $1,000 usd. You could scale it up to whatever amount of water you need per day. The payback would be a couple years not 10. Or....you could use the panels to run AC as most people will enjoy thanks to climate change. ACs are giant condensers and produce a large amount of water each day, depending on ambient humidity, time of use and size of unit. Now that is bang for the buck. Oh the condensed condensation is much cooler if you harvest it quickly. All in all an expensive shell on a dehumidifier the box stores sell. Oh you could skip the solar and just plug it in and pay back would be a couple months!
0:33 I can't find a single map online that is similar to this map. I'm further skeptical because it's labeled "then" and "now" instead of with actual, verifiable dates. Anyone have any thoughts or leads on this?
Its basically Peltier device, similar tech used on cheap portable dehumidifiers. It can collect water but at a very slow rate, even in humid area.
That's exactly why I hate all of these ideas. They keep making them and popping up every single 1 to 2 months and non of them work. They all say they are different and new but literally zero work effectively
I bought one of the cheap peltier dehumidifiers from amazon. 40% humidity, it makes 10 drops a day on 22 watts of power. My main ac unit makes more than 3 gallons a day on 3600 watts of power. You better have a lot of power available:)
@@KevinSmith-os5yz Solar panel is about 150w per square meter. Therefore, for about 24 sqm, you will be able to enjoy your AC and less than a gallon of water during the day time. Sorry about the night time....
@@biohazardlnfS slow > 0. You could put a lot of these around. Have one only water a tree. What could it hurt?
Correct
As a retired mechanical engineer I have used Peltier devices for cooling in my designs. The degree of success that any water from air project is reliant on, is the system design, and detail design . The biggest problem facing this technology is how up scaleable is it, vs cost of a large scale plant. In the poorest regions, where a scaled up system could be most useful, but also where there are no large amounts of money either to afford one. No peltiers are not the solution here. What is needed is a system that can be made locally, using local materials and very low technology being involved. I believe that a very large tent like structure, with air slats , and a central shaft that is dug down deep in the sand, and umbrellar type steel u type columns that go back down and meet the central column will work, using natural condensation. The idea is that under the Blacken out tent, the condensate is created by the intense heat in the tent, and during the night the water droplets that have formed on the metal u shaped channels, run down into the central water collector which is cooled in a large underground tank. The water can be pumped up to the surface using a simple mechanical lift pump. The desert sun which can make air temperatures reach 45 degree celsius in the day, will provide the energy, the greenhouse type tent will capture the moisture, and the coolness of the night will allow the condensate to collect underground. Something long these lines, is a more practical way of extracting moiture from the air.
growing 30 miles a year. The world needs to come together and revert the Sarahs growth
That's a lie. The Sahara is actually greening! The gloom and doom of ideologues is pure propaganda!
The trouble is the countries are not safe for tourists, or outsiders due to war/rebels/terrorists.
@@markae0 ,
When it comes to visiting, safety, and conflict across the entire Sahara at Large, your comment is an overgeneralized statement that misleads people from the actual truth. There are places in countries located within the Sahara boundaries that you can visit safely as long as you do your homework ahead of time and make sure there's not a current conflict that could affect safety in the area you want to visit. Your statement leaves a person who is educated on the subject to believe that you haven't done your homework about the diversity of the sahara's cultures and current issues. What you say about safety is true about some areas but it's completely false about the current local political climate in other accessible areas.
@@brianwnc8168 Which country has land in Sahara and isn't thoroughly corrupt? I've looked and not found any personally.
@@brianwnc8168 No sir, you are the one with the rose-coloured goggles. The whole of africa is one corrupt shithole and you know it, but prefer to denie it and look down on people who live in the real world. BLM-fan and woke, i presume?
Not wanting to be a wet blanket here, but I've seen at least 3 projects claiming to be able to extract enough water from air in very dry parts of the world to make a difference and they all eventually went quiet and disappeared.
Thunderfoot's channel has addressed one or two of these solutions and explained the physics behind why they never manage to extract enough water to make a difference.
I'm also not sure that these machines would withstand the conditions in a desert environment such as the Sahara for long. For instance, one sand storm could bury them for good or at least render them inoperable. And finding someone reliable who understands the importance of taking care of these things will be a big problem. People in the Sahara usually only see advantage in work that offers them personal direct benefit (not really that different to the west). The concept that an occupation is worth doing for free because it benefits others as well is not going to motivate many people. There would therefore have to be some re-enumeration system that finances and guarantees supervision.
these scam project claim to make a breakthrough claiming they discovered or invented a new way to harvest water .... in this video its legit just condensation that takes hours even days to just get a cup of drinking water ... so this is all bullocks and a scam for people to pay for their kickstarter
The point of these solutions are probably targeted towards getting water for an individiuls, specifically poor individuals, to have their own devices. Many of them can gather such devices, and scale up gradually over time. Such machines probably only work in specific environments too, so it's not great for everyone but it is something!
@@spicychad55 Desert people can not even afford the shipping of those machines. There are also princes (or similar officials) and their freinds who have desert homes but they live in excess anyways. Also the desert always have sea size underground water if you can dig and make a well.
@@Mr_ToR they can also pitch in collectively to purchase these or it can donated to them via charities
@@spicychad55 In the desert you see 1 guy with a camel or a goat evert 10 km or so. There is no they.
How many times does Thunderfoot have to debunk this stuff? These thing are simple dehumidifiers, and they work best where there is a lot of humidity in the air... ie, not the desert.
But this system is great in parts of the deserts on the coastlines , I am thinking of the desert in Morocco Chile and even in California ...along the coasts there is a lot of humidity just waiting to be harvested....
Thunderfoot is an eternal pessimist. Utterly predictable and boring person.
@@TheSchiffReport just because they are near the sea, doesn’t mean the humidity is high. Cold ocean currents, mountain ranges or prevailing winds on west coasts dump rain before it hit landfall, flow straight out to the sea near the coast or not carrying any moisture of significance. There are some fog nets used to collect water, but any attempt at capturing the moisture is hit and miss.
Well said. This is UA-cam on the loose.
@@madsam0320 WTF you talking about ....I have lived on the Moroccan southern coastline and it is almost always foggy ....there are presently fog harvesting installations near Sidi Ifni and the results are spectacular, there are several videos about these , you just have to search ...similar installations are on the coast of Chile (where this technology was first appeared)and elsewhere .....
Can we talk about placing mangroves along the coastal areas around Sahara to increase transpiration?
High tech solutions are a degenerative system of diminishing returns.
And yet those farmers are still in using the most degenerative land practices in the world there, but lets ignore that. Just like were ignoring it here.
Yessss mangroves are sooooo important❣‼️❣
@@StarDArashi yes especialy along cliffs ...
Amen.
Mangroves don't make money lol
@@hookedgamer actually natural resources is worth money, especially when they increase water and help against land degradation, it saves countries money
Engineers should develop a dew collection system instead since nights are so cool/humid
i'd like to see a cost analysis of getting water this way vs long distance irrigations and piping with and without desalinization plants. e.g. how much is a galllon of water produced through this solar method vs a gallon produced through irrigation methods.
Aren't we comparing apples to oranges? This is a fully self-contained unit that is also decentralized and not dependent on any external infrastructure. It may or may not work as a global scale solution to solve water access but the question is, does it even need to? It is also not some high tech solution and is quite simple in its implementation. Comparing it to a massive public works infrastructure solution would be a disservice to both solutions as both solve two very different problems, or two very different classes of problems.
In fact, the real question to ask is, why not both? Why are we forcing this choice to choose one over the other? You could use multiple such centralized and decentralized solutions on a "as it makes sense" basis.
And by the way, this solution would be completely free in terms of running cost (besides occasional maintenance). It is powered by solar panels which drive the fan that cools the unit to cause condensation. The only cost worth mentioning is the initial purchase cost. And I am sure a large public works infrastructure involving digging thousands of miles of canals or pipes isn't exactly cheap either. And that's putting it mildly.
And if i understand their claims, if you have a 1kw panel (which should be about 4 panels - not much - which should cost about $600-$800 USD or so), assuming 10 hours of strong sunlight a day which is very reasonable for a desert, it would produce 3 liters of water an hour or 30 liters of water a day.
@@arunramachandran5012 first off, there's no such thing as free. And we're not comparing apples to oranges, we're comparing cost to cost. There is a fixed cost for the manufacture of the device and then it has a life span after which you need to replace it. You add up all the total costs and divide that into how much water it makes and get a price per ounce. Then you do the same with price per ounce of water that is delivered to the same area via more traditional means. Since there's no such facility yet, you would have to do some estimates based on known costs of water procurement in other similar areas. Once you have your numbers you just look at which is cheaper and spend your investment there. There's no need to have both when you just need one kind of water, which is just water. It would be like paying 2 different water utilities to provide your home with running water. Why pay 2 when you can pay just 1? Also, I would almost guarantee that if you need substantial quantities of water you're still going to want to go the traditional route of pipes and pumps. But if we're talking about supplying drinking water to a small village, then maybe these solar condensers would be the better option assuming they can last a long time without needing parts and labor. I doubt the average Saharan villager knows enough about how to repair and maintain one of these so it would need to last a long time without needing any upkeep.
@Viễn-Phương deserts are greening and the Sahara IS shrinking on its own. The primary assumption of this clip is wrong! Even NASA admits that and they believe that the greening occurs because there’s more CO2 to fertilize plants.
@@C_R_O_M________ What absolute nonsense, most deserts are growing because there are far too many people. The Middle East was green and lush once, before we got started on it with goats, that is why we invented agriculture there.
I am a horticulturalist I can tell you that the slight increase in atmospheric CO2 does not compensate for loss of moisture and increased storm frequency in most areas. Most plants hate big changes they like stability. The plants that grow more will be in the Northern temperate areas, like trees in Siberia but unfortunately melting permafrost will release more greenhouse gases.
@@ericconnor8419 you are talking nonsense. There’s a dedicated satellite that monitors the World’s foliage and the whole world is actually greening as well as the Sahel (lower Sahara)! If you get your news from media outlets you’ll never know that. Go search for NASA, CO2 and greening earth see what comes up then look for a paper about the Sahara and the Sahel itself.
Imagine if we humans stopped fighting wars for borders and spent all those trillions on improving the earths health.
Yes.
We will be better than aliens
We would have a perfect world. It's just that easy too. All we lack is the will.
Is it due to reliability that they are using peltier elements, cause they are not very efficient, but they might be more reliable than a compressor.
I must say I am very skeptical of this project, I hope they have thought this through.
The machines presented in this video are very inefficient dehumidifiers. They produce very little water when the air is dry (like in the desert) and need a very large solar panel surface area, making this water extremely expensive. We agree with the debunking videos of Thunderf00t. Still, our company Aquahara is testing a more efficient process, which produces 2 liters of water per day per square meter of solar collectors under dry desert conditions. This is still expensive, but the technology is evolving and getting more cost-effective over time, just like with the photovoltaic industry 10 years ago.
I have ideas. How do i work for you?
@@robtherub Currently, we do not have open positions, unfortunately. You can still send me an email (see my address on our website). Best regards, Philippe
What about desalinating seawater? The UAE gets 90% of its drinking water from desalination.
@@aquahara8691 Thank you for your reply, sincerely, my name is rob.... talking here is fine, i am not a person needs paying, may be able to invest money actully. The idea is glass canals made of glass, the glass is made of sand, power sunshine, all free, thick double canal base, thin glass roof airtight, double skinned, water cooled, left canal seawater, inverse, locks pumped upwards when necassary, constant return flow so no heavily salinated sea output. Needs ocean water connection. Location Gambia, West Sahara or The Sinai, Egypt, that is after all, the holy grail of permculture, according to John D Lieu (?) ... the right canal is immediately growing sand growable plants from condensate and immediately have enough to grow forever like a garden in a sealed bottle growing for 60 years on the same water. A thin green line across the tropic of cancer outputting fresh water all the way across. A plague of locusts can simply be welcomed into the airtight tunnels. There are doors. Which can close and the thing can be flooded with CO2. Once Sinai mountain is green though, that alone will do the job, instead of the upward push of the hot air from that desert driving the mediteranean evaporated sea moisture onto pakistan and bangladesh every year, once the rivers of mount Sinai are flowing again that moisture will draw the meditarranian moisture over the once, ond soon to be again, fertile crescent, remoisturising egypt and returning the mighty kingdom of Abysinnia to the Garden of Eden, as the rain falls again on Lalibella, Jah, Ras'Tafari.
@@robtherub Hi Rob, your idea of using solar energy to desalinate seawater makes a lot of sense. Seawater desalination will always be cheaper than atmospheric water generation, even with the Aquahara system. But we are working on atmospheric water as an alternative water source for inland regions, far away from seawater desalination plants. Atmospheric water will remain rather expensive because of the (solar) energy requirement. So in any case, it has to be combined with wastewater recycling systems and it only makes sense in regions that have very little rainfall and where groundwater is depleted.
Does this remind anyone else of the moister farm from Star Wars?
That is exactly what it reminded me of, and why I clicked onto the video. More 1960's to 1980's Sci-Fi being made a reality!
Science fiction is becoming science fact
Peltier cooling is energy intensive and inefficient. It relies on temperature differential. Putting an aluminium/copper heatsink, in full sun, isn't going to dump heat very well at all.
Perhaps if the solar panel charges a battery then it may dump enough heat at night, with a certain Dew Point. Oh and it is R/H (relative humidity), not, repeat NOT absolute humidity.
I worked for Carrier . I've done university on all of this, including electrical engineering!
I'm a potato level human and I know this is a stupid idea
On top of all that you said, which I agree with. There is still just a finite amount of water available. So what happens when that is used up? Instead of increasing the amount of water which is available we have to be reducing our demand for it. How do we do that? Reduce our population. That is the root cause of all of our problems. If we do not find a humane way of reducing our population then the natural processes on our planet will kick in. Waiting for or allowing nature to run it's course is probably the least humane option of all. Mother Nature is not necessarily known for her kindness, especially in situations where a species has outgrown it's capacity to feed it self.
@@2000sborton No to the the population argument. Simply not true. Regarding finiteness of air moisture - dryer air also means water evaporate faster.
I've considered a similar machine, but less complex.
1. Some kind of mass with high surface area and high thermal conductivity (copper perhaps) coated with hydrophobic paint.
2. Super reflective surface on top to cool 1 at night while not gaining too much heat during the day.
3. Surround/protect 1 inside a pipe for Stack Effect.
Goal would be to reach below Dew Point during night, particularly a few hours before dawn. If it works it's much more easily mass produced, even though copper is expensive. If it works at all with copper, it might also work with aluminum which is much cheaper.
Ideally it would be a fairly tall structure for larger Stack Effect and since it is like a cool chimney it would draw air from higher up (humid air is lighter than dry air according to wikipedia).
I agree. these guys are assholes. I also have chem eng degree and i can sketch a design simpler and 3x more efficient. I may do this--- except i believe those who breed to excess and over graze their community should sort themselves out!
sun power > charges solar panels (or creates steam from sea water by passing sun through fresnel lenses) > runs electric water pumps > pumps salt water from ocean > to solar water distillation plants > fresh water carried to arid regions by canals + solar (or steam) powered water pumps > water feeds trees > microclimates created > clouds form above trees > rain falls
Treating the symptoms but not the cause. land degradation should be reversed. Farmers need to be taught how to work with the land. Recarbonisation, growing trees and grasses etc. I have seen in northern Botswana how this land degradation has destroyed forests and ancient migratory routes for elephants because the government encouraged peasant farmers to grow their food in a country that is not suitable for farming. It is sacrilege what has happened. The desert in Botswana will soon encroach on what used to be pristine forests.
you're right!
Straight from Dune. I like your positive attitude and forward thinking.
Thank you for showing us someone that is being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Wish everyone would think this way
It showed you a solution (not a good one at that) about a nonexistent problem as the Sahara (and the whole world, for that matter) is actually greening.
It's not, it's just a gimmick, a solar powered dehumidifier it was invented in the 1970s. People like things like this because it reassures them life can carry on the same with a few technical tweaks. It can't. Watch Thunderfoot some time, how many 'free water in the desert' machines have been developed over the last 50 years.
Thanks for the info
@@ericconnor8419 life could carry on fine if governments didn’t f_up the energy sector by pushing for expensive and unreliable renewables (that are not even ecological solutions- by their own criteria). For life to carry on fine you need cheap and abundant energy, fertilizers, pesticides, etc. Governments are doing the exact the opposite of what they were supposed to.
Take Germany for example.
It closed down nuclear and lignite energy plants, pushed for renewables and gas from Russia and ended up with very expensive energy, buying nuclear from France and gas from a foe (Russia) and even worse air quality than it started with (even more CO2 emissions)! Now they are running like headless chicken to see what they’ll do going forward. Incredible stuff.
I'm really interested to know the cost of these machines. I was recently watching a video about Saudi Arabia's water shortage problems. While this might not immediately fix the agricultural problems, I've heard that there is a domestic water problem in Saudi Arabia. If every home was equipped with these machines, that would lessen the problem a lot. Saudi Arabia is a wealthy country. They could afford to invest in this product, whether it be the average Saudi, or the government. If that were to happen, this technology could have a huge catalyst, and be better placed to help the people of less wealthy countries that need it.
It's just a dehumidifier. Just buy any dehumidifier and put a solar panel on top of it. That's what they've "invented".
it's free forever, according to the video title :)
@@911mastermind absolutely true, and compressors are far more efficient than peltier modules...
@@milllight5379 so they're using peltiers? thats so bad....they're like 1/4th the efficiency
It's a scam. These are not and never will be, a viable source of water generation, because it's impossible to remove more water from the air than the air actually contains. The technology isn't new, it's been around for decades and at no point in all that time have they ever been viable for water production. Not even vaguely viable.
if a 100 kw unit per month costs 10k to buy and has a 20 year lifespan then it will produce 300 liter per month or 3600 per year or 720,000 over a 20 year span. that means you are paying 1.38 cents per liter ($10,000/720,000). that’s not terrible but it needs to get 100x cheaper as water costs about $.0001, not $.0138
yes, that being you can buy water. but in sahara i wonder where would you buy water.
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@@matthiasklopke161 thanks! you are correct. so its even more expensive than i thought. i guess it needs to get 1000X more efficient.
Economies of scale can knock that down a big deal.
Oh and bottled water can go for even a dollar in some areas.
@@doncorleon9 i think you make a very valid point. this can be used as a sub a for expensive drinking water
This device uses energy to remove water from the air, making that air drier so it is ready to absorb water from adjacent areas at a higher rate. So you are increasing the desert's dryness in the area surrounding the device.
If there is a breeze, then the area downwind of the device will be an increased desert area.
Then you can dump the water back into this drier area and irrigate it?
The dark solar panel absorbs more light which would otherwise be reflected back into space from the lighter colored sand. The increased light absorption increases the temperature of the solar panel and surrounding air, increasing the local desertification.
You can't get anything for free.
Even if this were done on a large enough scale to do actual harm, it still wouldnt matter since the soil is already as dry as it can get... Like who cares if sand gets a little bit dryer? You're assuming that the collected water would normally be absorbed by the ground, which doesnt happen in already completly dry araes
@@Illuminati_HD You Said, " it still wouldnt matter since the soil is already as dry as it can get"
Not true. The Sahara gets about 3 inches of rain per year. Much of that rain is absorbed into the sand and then evaporated back into the air over the next days - months until the next rain.
The dryer the air, the quicker the evaporation takes place and the dryer the sand becomes.
It is true that very dry areas absorb the water less readily. If none of the water was absorbed by the ground, then there wouldn't be oases.
You're videos are so wonderful
Thank you for your encouraging comments 😊
@@LeafofLifeWorld if only you didn't lie about the Sahara expanding! The Sahara and the whole World is actually GREENING (so deserts are shrinking) and that's even on NASA's own site. You see they have a dedicated satellite to measure world foliage coverage. Too bad you made all that effort on a false premise!
This video and all the information about the technology is great ! Thanks. And I hope many people who see this , could be their brains immediately got ideas ! Thats a fact ; when one idea is exposed many will follow . It would be great if we can help this Planet to be healthy and green again !
40 000 years ago , the sahara was bigger , much of asia a desert , and the ice cover also huge , mainly white I think .
So .... much less green than today , but healthy nevertheless or what ?
I don't see technological gimmics as " earth médecine " ... 😉
The Sahara and the whole world is actually greening BECAUSE of more CO2. This is accepted and displayed even in NASA's own site.
@@C_R_O_M________ that's what I heard too ... it's got to be true because population doubles every 30 years in the area ... and well they were starving 50 years ago .... but it's something I heard too . Never been there ,
@@thierrylandrieu7441 they are deleting my answer to you. Search for “Nasa, co2 greening planet” and you’ll see a NASA link. However, they are deleting my answer when I go into some very crucial details about their narrative.
@@C_R_O_M________ hello , yes they destroy links it takes too much memory space . I know Nasa reports . You can also check that corals grow faster due to CO2 ... the whole " acidification " story is dumb ... we had the " acid rains" story 40 years ago , and here we are ... only thing is as forest grow faster , the whole ecosystem is disrupted and they don't look in the right place for causation .
Disrupted just means changing , in my meaning .
Imagine being lost in the dessert and randomly finding one of these
Doubt you would even come close before talking with security
Thank you for the encouraging news. I hope everyone is having a great day. Sheila Mink in New Mexico
In other words, an "ac unit" with the purpose of collecting the water that falls from the back.
Just what desert dwellers need! A dehumidifier! Act now! No. The air is DRY. so very little water in the air. Every few years people rediscover dehumidifiers. Thing is dehumidifiers in dry air can't capture much. Sunblaze. Whatever _ there is no science that makes water condense when there is no water to. Condense. Desalination is cheaper. More work is needed. The maximum efficiency is hard to believe that some breakthrough changes thermodynamics. It's a good way to raise a lot of cash. It is the perennial dream.
Italy used cardboard placed in a trough of sea water in a long green house, sunlight cause the water to evaporate and then at night the condensate settles on the glass and runs into a trough and is now salt free distilled.
This whole commercial was a lie? Why bother producing something for a faulty product?
Thats it ; just like you said; INSPIRING PEOPLE 🌴🌲🌿🌳🌴🌲🌿🌳🌴🌲🌳🌿🌴🌲
This is very practical with green houses where the irrigation water is practically recycled as it cannot escape the green house hence keeping the greenhouse perpetually humid and creating a local micro climate (Hot + Humid) This is genius....
Awesome! I think we need to have many more of these in the desert area to reduce climate crisis. I would suggest to run it at night time to collect more water since the moisture is higher at night time if power is an issue. I think we can transform the desert into an oasis again with technologies like these. Thanks
These are the people who should be winning noble prizes.
Store energy during day to run at night! 😊
I live in the desert by the Salton Sea it doesn't rain much here it's hot temperatures get up to 120 degrees but humidity is high because of the lake here is drying up I'm trying to make a machine like you got to make fresh water so I can plant trees to help cool things down and turn the desert into a lush forest to clean the air and grow food plus help keep the dust storm at bay and keep the wind from stripping the top soil that is needed for plants to grow we have no water here where we are at we have to truck in our water a water generator is needed I'm running on solar since we have plenty of sunlight here
You deserve more than one thumbs up in 3 months,
so here is your second!
I wish you well with your project!
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When you get your "free water from the air", what happens down stream in the ecosystem? One that is precariously balanced to work with X amount of moisture in the air? Like all human inventions it would seem that the right here, right now is much more important than the repercussions that might be realized in a few years. Take lake Mead for example and the water shortage fiasco it has created in 4 states.
Lake Mead has been shrinking for 20+ years so the fact those States are acting like it’s something new is insulting. The casinos in Vegas should’ve built a desalination plant in California and pump the water to Vegas 20 years ago they chose not to that’s their fault. You charge everybody a dollar per night to pay for it it would’ve been paid for, it could’ve been upgraded they could have had the best of the best and only pumping it 300 miles Alaskan pipeline is 700 miles long don’t say it can’t be done. Only in America do we see the catastrophe happening wait until it’s almost completely at the zero hour and then decide to do something about it. I don’t believe in God I’m an atheist but according to the Bible Noah started building the boat before it started raining.
When atmospheric moisture is reduced, more water evaporates from the source (lakes. rivers. oceans, reservoirs, etc...) to return the humidity to its equilibrium point. These are human beings. If they don't get water they die. Preserving their life is priority number one, two and three. If they don't get the water they need from the air. they will get it from desalination the oceans, with far more energy expended and devastating environmental impact of the increased salinity around the effluent point.
The Lake Mead fiasco is created by those who insist on having natural grass lawns and watering them in what is essentially desert climate, by those who insist on having golf courses for leisure, and by the wasteful cunsumerism that underpins much of the U.S. economy. The desert dwellers consume a tiny fraction of the average American per capita water use. Please consider rationally before condemning.
@@tj3859 of course there are solutions out there and governments are part of the problem not the solution. Most of the times they create it and then advertise their solution (election time). Take the mismanagement of forests or example. They “protect it” to the point that excessive fuel is gathered at the bottom and then when this fuel meets a natural (or even man-made) spark, the subsequent wildfire becomes unmanageable and burns a lot more acreage to what it would burn naturally. Then they blame it on climate change which is (atm) nothing but a 1C warming “anomaly” in GATs (global average temperatures) in 150 years and coming out of LIA (little ice age) the coldest period in 10000 years and ask us for taxes in order to fix the problem they created.
There are thousands of aquifers in this region that are undiscovered.
Nice dream but I don't think it's practical. What happens if it breaks and you can't get parts. Heat in the desert, and blowing sand are the devil. I live in a severe drought area. Not coastal so can't use fog nets. I use greenhouse film inverted in a cone over a 8x12 kids pool. I also have polycarbonate panels attached to posts that funnel rain into the pool.
I then pump the water into 55 gal food trade barrels that are buried up to the rim in the ground. Low tech, highly reliable.
Sounds Great. I am in Portugal looking for a solution to waagerecht my trees. Couleur you do a Short video about your low tech Solution?
If you all would sell these machines to Californians, it would generate huge revenues to help pay for projects in poor countries. I know I would buy some for my cabin in CA if not too expensive.
I would humbly suggest this could reduce California’s sucking as much water as possible out of the Colorado River watershed.
A close look at Israel fertile once desert land will show all the answers on how to solve the problem in the African desert too. What those Nations need most is good quality agricultural education, and governments willingness to solve all those problems related to water management.
Kinda hard when capitalism profits from actively stopping any increase in living standards
I want one this is the best thing ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a dehumidifier in the desert BRILLIANT lmfao
Thank everyone who try to help poor people... 👍👍👍🙏
Why not consider a design that uses locally sourced materials and can be replicated and maintained by local people easily? Solar panels don't grow on trees. It's also more ecologically conscientious as you avoid contributing to transport emissions that importing shiny metal cabinets and solar panels will produce.
This sort of solution is much more appropriate in a society with a more sophisticated supply chain. Out in the bush of Africa, these units are problematic to get there and keep there. At the very least, are there domestic manufacturers within a reasonable distance of where they expect to deploy these things? Is it wise to make them reliant of foreign produced goods?
The old dream of solar panels coupled with thermocooling devices (TEC) never worked in the African continent. Nothing new here, the French did it in the 70s, EDF is still trying its mega solar power plant with solar panels which have to be cleaned once every two days (Noor 800MW, Morocco, Ouarzazate)
Ah, the attraction of the off-grid market...
Yet meanwhile foreign companies come in and mine, extract all the local resources from Africa that are used in computer chips, and in batteries, these mines are poor conditions and make the communities sick, with cancer and children that are deformed, these companies happily take it all these materials, and then other people can enjoy the technologies far away from where the minerals needed to build them come from. But when its the otherwise around and African people need the technology...oh no its not okay! Geez 😒
@@unite3717 Way to ignore the root causes and focus on your fetish. Good job.
Are the solar pannels sustainable? is the end of life process a part of the circular economy?
Yep, a few million of these devices would supply enough water for a few cows and a couple of rows of carrots!
this is very nice. wee will need that giant piece of land one day
I always like people who are looking for solutions to problems rather than to blame someone else for the problem.
Great solution to a problem. Best thing: it's mobile and independent from infrastructure.
Technology is indeed great but the Sahara is actually greening and shrinking. This clip lies.
The problem is, this isn't solving the problem at all.
this system is great in parts of the deserts on the coastlines , I am thinking of the desert in Morocco Chile and even in California ...along the coasts there is a lot of humidity just waiting to be harvested....
Now this is when science gets the thumbs up, when they concentrate their efforts to help mankind not destroy it.
a dehumidifier?
@@--kami-- You’re right, it’s like a dehumidifier connected to a Solar panel.
Right! However the Sahara is actually greening (so does the whole world) and that's BECAUSE of more CO2 fertilization. The alarmist doom and gloom never mentions the positives of increased CO2 concentrations. CO2 which is a trace gas at just 0.04% of the atmosphere and most of it being of natural origins.
This same channel has 2 videos just this year about how the Sahara is greening, yet at the beginning they're saying it's expanding at 48km per year.
Population needs to be in balance with jobs, resources, nature and the environment. Having a bigger population in any country than the country can support makes no sense. Access to food, water, shelter, energy and jobs should guide population levels. The worlds population is still expected to add another billion people to feed, clothe and produce pollution. Humans are crowding out all other species of plants and animals. Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger. Having a child that you can not provide for yourself is cruel and irresponsible. We need solutions not just sympathy. Endless population growth is not sustainable on a finite planet. Every country needs to "TRY" to be more self sufficient. When there are not enough resources to sustain a population something has to give. Countries need to focus on quality of life for their citizens and not just quantity of life for cheap labor. Why import fossil fuels when wind and solar energy can be produced locally and solar energy can power electric vehicles. We need solutions not just sympathy.
The problem is not the population or the lack of ressources (enough ressources on earth to feed 15 billion people) it is the allocation of ressources.
Nonsense! The world is close to its peak population and governments f_up everything. China is shrinking rapidly because that idiot Mao had forced a 1 kid policy and people were throwing little baby girls down the toilet!
@@cortexavery1324 Maybe Earth could feed 15 billion people, but it could not accommodate 15 billion people all using as many resources as the average first world citizen. If you want even the current population to live in comparable wealth we need to get a lot more efficient with our resources.
if its free forever who built and bought machines? who maintains and repairs them? when did solar panels become free?
Amazing. Good start.
Permaculture permaculture permaculture.
No. I live in the desert. Ongoing severe drought. For 3 years not a single drop of rain. The straw hasn't broken down at all. Had to take everything out of the ground and put it in air pots.
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if this works in thin air what about thick air ,, and by the way, what exactly is thin air anyway ?
A week ago I saw something on t v . Bamboo is “magical “. Bamboo is growing up , 50-100 centimeters in a week ! Also in the earth the roots are strong and long. The shadow , and the moist in the earth make the earth , just like in rainforests , a big cool place in a desert for example. A cool place with much shadow is great to absorb water. Its dry and hot in Europe now. I am Dutch……… waiting on much water from German and France rivers 💦💦💦🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼👩🏼🦰
but then dont plant bamboo in places like africa where its not native, it will take over ecosystems and destroy them
@@brammutje15 not if you harvest it properly. The root structure of the bamboo plant is what holds the top layer of soil in place. Once you have established a good soil base, you can add other plant materials into the soil, and overtime you create mulch which feeds the soil. Weeds and fast growing plants are extremely neccesary for binding soil.
@@Sum_Ting_Wong thats cool bro, i was talking about how bamboo would be invasive to africa,so let's not make that mistake
The Sahara is actualy greening. The clip lies to you.
A C3 plant unsuitable for deserts, many deserts get below freezing at night. And 'monoculture' is white man thinking, the cause of the problem in the first place,
These devices have been disproven time and time again they basically work off the same principle of a dehumidifier and a small solar panel is not going to provide enough energy to make it worth it,also you would need a lot of filtration to be able to get the metals out of the water. I would place a bet their out of business within a few years.
4:05 "inspired by looking at solution instead of placing blame"
Nobody is inspired by placing blame, and people looking for solution are generally pretty clear on who or what is to blame.
Seeing how the ones to blame for climate change are still dooing the thing they're blamed for, being able to punish those people would certainly be way more of a solution than this technology however clever it is.
Nonsense! First of all the Sahara is actually GREENING! So there goes your primary assumption down the drain! Secondly, climate change is now a 1C degree warming "anomaly" in GATs (Global Average Temperatures) but coming out of an ice age (LIA or Little Ice Age) that was the coldest era in 10000 years so that "anomaly" might as well be a natural occurrence coming out of a very cold period. Note that a 1C degree in GATs is something that no one would be able to detect if it wasn't for the constant propaganda from certain outlets that are professionally dependent on activism, politics and government-funded "science".
@@C_R_O_M________ Yeah so all that is obviously BS. I like the idea that the previous ice age still has any sort of impact...
Still the most surprising claim to me is the idea that the Sahara greening would destroy my first assumption... No assumption in my comment rely on that.
Are you actually responding to me or are you just randomly saying stuff...
@@cortexavery1324 when you propose to “punish people” for “climate change” you sound like you believe the agenda and the supposed damage humans have inflicted by burning fossil fuels. You wouldn’t propose punishing measures (for anyone) if you didn’t. I agree that, at the end o the day, someone must be held accountable for the trillions of $s that were annually spent for this fraudulent agenda but don’t go along the narrative of this clip. That’s the primary faulty assumption made.
P.S. The Little Ice Age (150 years ago - when it ended) was a period with very low GATs and to juxtapose current GATs with that and call the difference “an anomaly” is disingenuous.
@@C_R_O_M________ 🤣 Thank you for explaining what the little ice age is. That does prove that this non-global event still has an impact on global temperature nowadays...
Scientist obviously don't set their standard temperature on the little ice age, but you just say it and some people won't see how dumb a statement it is.
What is disingenuous is the fact you keep believing that shit in a world that offers everything you need to correct yourself.
Again all you say is BS. It's dumb on it's face and dumber when you go deeper.
Also you did good not answering my statement about about how weirded out I was that you answered a comment without answering any of its content. One does look dumber when he aknowledges how there is even more layers of non-sense in what he says.
To answer your question the laws of thermodynamics say absolutely not.
Live with climat change!!!!! Very well said. It was always changing.
That’s like saying ‘meteors have always fallen on the earth so let’s just continue to fire missiles at random places on earth’ just because something happens naturally doesn’t excuse humans from making it happen unnaturally. Also, it’s not just about climate change but also air pollution, plastic pollution and general sustainability. Why wouldn’t we try to be sustainable?
@@princeofchetarria5375 "Why wouldn’t we try to be sustainable?"
>>First of all the Sahara is actually shrinking because it's greening so strike one! Secondly you can't manipulate a non linear chaotic system because it's unpredictable and to a great degree unknown so sustainability claims are BSing you! Strike 2.
The climate is ever-changing and at the moment we experience a 1C degree warming "anomaly" in GATs (Global Average Temperatures) but coming out of a Little Ice Age (or LIA) that was the coldest era in 10000 years. This means that the "anomaly" might as well be the natural thing to have happened. Moreover, we don't even have a way to accurately calculate GATs of 2 centuries ago since there weren't many thermometers around the World that were datalogging systematically as they do now. Even modern ground thermometers are prone to confounding factors and the most reliable temp measurements are done by satellites and weather balloons that exist only a few decades so we might as well be wrong about the 1C degree warming itself! Strike 3. The climate change agenda is clearly a political agenda linked to the UN (and UNEP).
Every home in the west should have one of these
You do have the option, go buy a dehumidifier then drink the water out of it. Thats all this is
There are so many misinformations in the first 39 seconds , I just can't go on .... tell me if they sell perpetual movement apparatus , thanks .
I counted 7 in the first 0:39, what about you?
@@thetoybox8297 I was too dumbed to count , it went so fast .... just the map ( 2 secs) was a joke by itself
This contraption has better efficiency at humid area. I think in dry area we should use the abundant sea water. Distillation of sea water. I would create a huge convex lens or concave mirrors that concentrate sun into a spot of metal floating on top of small collection of water. Collect the steam and condense it. Edit : oh and yeah let the steam generate a turbine for the pump and probably have enough extra generated power that contribute to the electrical grid.
As a kid I always wondered why not use solar energy to pump water from the sea, distill it, sell the salt and use the water. Like you can have rows of solar panels which generate some shade you can grow plants in with water from this, and even use water to clean the panels and also thus, moisterizing the air. There is so much energy there, put it to use.
"I think in dry area we should use the abundant sea water." The vast majority of the Sahara is very far from sea water. Same goes for most hot deserts.
true, but a lot of those dry area's with no plant growth are close to the sea. I would start there.@@RandomPlaceHolderName
This approach will never produce enough water for agriculture. At the very best it will barely produce some drinking water for humans. Probably not even enough for their daily needs. The only way to get sufficient water in deserts like the Sahara is to acess the underground aquifers left over from the last wet period. In other desert areas the only workable approach is to pipe in water from wetter aeras. The reason why the approach featured in this video will not work for the production of meaningful quantities of water is due to the physical laws that govern water evaporation and condensation. These cannot be overcome regardless of how smart a technology one uses.
Saw a working prototype nearly 10 years ago in America. Heardly new tech !
Amazing and much needed invention. Well done.
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If this was scaled up... Would it not just take the water out of the air at some locations where it normally do not rain, and live the air dry reducing the amount of rain somewhere else?
Also do the actually add energy to the dessert? I am assuming the sand reflects energy out to space, in the form of light. But then we collect the light using solar cells, reflecting less light, using this energy to heat the air?
Thus on a large scale could this not be a overall negative thing? (Moving water for the price of more global warming?)
The effect is absolutely negligible as you are just covering a very very very small area of the desert, even at large scale.
It's not free water: you need an industrial society and fossiel fuels to mine, build and transport that units. Adding to that, solar panels don't last forever.
There's no easy solutions for such complex problems
It's going to take a many-faceted approach to fix human damage on the planet.
Overpopulation is the #1 elephant in the living room
Mindless consumption the #2 problem
Expanding 48 km per year south . Sounds like the almost exact measurements of the magnetic northern pole migration numbers . That those tracking the magnetic pole numbers have reported on line . And looking at the southern pole reforming ice and snow , that is reclaiming the melted and lost snow levels looks to me exactly shifting , as well in released NASA photos me is further evidence that others should be watching as well . Do to the lack of proper media news coverage . Thank you for your scientific data collected video 😎⚡️👍🏼🔥⚡️
Interesting and seems logical
How about instructions on how to build
Check out the website, details in the description the technology is open source
@@LeafofLifeWorld thanks, sometimes i forget to check the video description before going off searching!
@@LeafofLifeWorld thank you 😊
6:38 good video but it is misleading. You will need 10 100 watt solar panels to produce 1kwph, which is a lot larger than the solar panels in the video. Even if the technology does work, you would need a massive solar array to supply a small community with water. You can forget about getting enough water to grow a garden, or water livestock.
The smaller solar panel showed in the video was for a different model, DCO3 only needs a 50cm 30-50 watt,
As for the droppler20 which you time coded, the website says...
We developed this compact machine with multiple power options: a 24 volt connection, so it can be directly connected to a solar energy installation, powered by a battery, or plugged into a power grid. With a cooling capacity from 80 - 620W, this highly intelligent system produces up to 3 liters of water per kWh.
Agree with you ... in some parts of the Sahara the air is too dry for this to be even remotely usable . There are on the other end huge underground water potential .
What about wind power?
@@Blaqjaqshellaq in the desert dust storms make a mess of moving equipment
@@LeafofLifeWorld I still doubt its going to work
You can do the same moisture collection at night in the same region with fog nets which are way more cost effective and require no electricity or electronics of any kind.
I have to wonder if tethered balloons/dirigibles, lifting fog nets higher would be an effective way to dramatically increase cross section and yield. Or is that just adding unnecessary complexity?
@@stevenking7352 You would have a major problem with higher wind currents the higher you go plus the greater the surface of your fog net... the greater size you heliem or hydrogen floatation balloon envelopes would need to be. And than you'd be looking at the overall cost monitoring and maintaining such a system. You really want a simple system that has heavy duty post burried deep in compacted soil on a hill or ridge for your altitude gain.
Usually a simple pole framework erected uphill of you fields with storage tanks slightly below would be ideal and fields and communities slightly or further downhill from the tanks so that gravity is being used to your advantage.
So you mean to tell me they've invented the Tatooine "moisture vaporater"? Fascinating!
Need to improve efficiency with a heat exchanger that cools input air from the post-condensation exiting air. Run the two through a tube with a divider in the middle and insulation on the outside.
so now there is a possibilty of real moisture farmers in the sahara where have i seen that #starwars
This is the Future technology that is to stay for ever। Hence it has to be scaled up fast across all deserts by all countries of the world as good Service to humanity
These are basically moisture vaporators from Star Wars, like from the moisture farm Luke grew up on.
Some clever content thank u.
IS this product available in the market? Can we buy them?
How about the unintended consequences of taking moisture out of the air which is critical for some plants and animals? Was this deeply considered?
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Yeah it's open source, because the peltier device was invented in the mid 19th century... kind of hard to patent something that's been in the public domain that long.
What is a cost and efficiency of those units? How much water they can produced daily and cost per 1 liter.
nothing more than a dehumidifier. something you can buy for years: ua-cam.com/video/ghBWR38RAno/v-deo.html
Abrupt climate change!
This water cannot be used for human or animal consumption.
This technique cold/heat collecting H20 molecules into drops then streams of water has been well-known and used for millennia by the farmers in South America in order to irrigate their cultures.
Furthermore, there is nothing new : The French engineers have been using solar panels since the 70s in a lot of countries in Africa. Due to the wind and sand/earth, the panels become VERY quickly inefficient. They have to be cleaned every two days.
By the way, former Lybian leader Muammar Gaddafi was building green farms in the 70s-2000s (until his eviction). Evidence? Military satellite photos. The same technique is now used in Saudi Arabia.
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...............so basically its a dehumidifier in a desert, Thunderf00t has busted this scam a few times now
I'm curious to know why people still listen to him? So many of his claims have been debunked.
@@kelaarin you don’t seem to even know that the Earth is actually greening and that this whole clip is based on a lie and you wonder about secondary details?
It's not free water, that is rain. This has to be paid for with limited resources. Solar panels and batteries are neither free nor able to be produced sustainably they take rare earths and heavy metals. If you left it in the desert it would be stripped for scrap or components in a week.
The desert is being caused by people stripping the land of vegetation for cooking fires and housing. Can you see the pile at 0:27? That, and goats. More water = more people = more desert.
Real! You got to love people who make the tech straight forward! When your out in the desert and need water, the thought "whats in the box" shouldn't come to mind! Anyway, looks cool that lower energy consumption device you showed there! Instead of making that all hidden! You would be on to the next project just like any of us! Really its about having water for people who need it! Emagine being lost and having random drinking taps around? Brilliant! I love whats possible!!!!!!!!
African governments near the Sahara desert never intended to introduce ecological management practices. They will need water making technologies to save their populations.
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For context, model dc03 produces approximately half a glass (about 15cl) per 6 hours of operation - so you won't be watering your garden with this anytime soon.
Solar powered de humidifiers. Not exaclty magic or radical
You can always put this machine in a glasshouse in order to increase the humidity level.
What a scam lol
The implication is that for just $3 you can have drinking water in the desert! What a mirical! Except it is not.
First of all, it is $3 in active parts. A metal heat sink and a piezoelectric cooler. Those are cheap parts! But you have to assemble them, add a housing, add a powersource, packaging, and ship it to a remote location where the general income is $3 a week.
And how much water will this produce in the area they want to deploy it? Maybe 1 litre a day? Not enough to justify the cost for anything other than the occasional cup of water! It's not free or even cheap. It's not efficient. It's not effective. It's a horrible idea!
We already have much better commercially available products on the market. Glorified air conditioners complete with compressors, fans, etc, and for $6k they can provide about half the water needed for a typical family to survive. These are efficient, and work well, and are readily available, and are much more compact than what is shown here. If those items which are waaaaaay cheaper on a $/litre basis are not making it into the hands of people like this, how is a much worse product on all counts supposed to be helpful?
The answer to desertification is better land management by governments. Do what China is doing and stabilize the soil, while adding plant matter that will break down into dirt instead of sand. Simply throwing water on sand will not fix a desert. Then you have wet sand which is porus and dries quickly, and then spreads further.
Ihate stupid scam videos like this. All smiles and save the poor people with little to no thinking behind how it is supposed to actually help anything at all.
What would really be innovative would be the use of some of these new "sub temperature" paints. Paint a heat sink with that, put it over a home, add some fins to the under side, and then you get a much cooler home, free water collection, and a metal roof. The water collection will mostly recycle water from inside the home where breathing, bathing, and cooking creates extra humidity in the first place making it more effective than just putting it out in the wild. And no need for a powersystem. Just keep the dirt off of it, and slap on a fresh coat of paint every few years. It would cost a bit more up front than a compressor unit, but without the power requirements it would be easier to run and maintain. And adding the idea of included air conditioning of a home by dropping the Temps 10-15*c during the heat of the day helps it pull double duty.
Most of us fathomed this out back in 1978. A bloke called Luke Skywalker made a documentary about it. I learnt about light speed too; and also that to be able to talk to my fridge I need to learn Botchi or get a protocol droid.
Fantastic, given a few megawatts I can water my garden.... This kind of scam is sickening.
Haha! Yeah! However, the Sahara is actually greening (so does the rest of the world) and that's because of more CO2.
Spoiler: It's not free. It's a solar powered dehumidifier, you have to buy it and maintain it.
If I understand this setup, it is a solar panel powered dehumidifier on the roof.
Wouldnt it make more sense to mount tbe panels on the roof without the need of a boom truck and power the dehumidifier inside the house? It would be easier to plumb, maintain for purity and simple to replace when the dehumidifier fails. With used panels($50 per 240w panel delivered from Suntan solar) you could run the entire setup for under $1,000 usd. You could scale it up to whatever amount of water you need per day. The payback would be a couple years not 10. Or....you could use the panels to run AC as most people will enjoy thanks to climate change. ACs are giant condensers and produce a large amount of water each day, depending on ambient humidity, time of use and size of unit. Now that is bang for the buck. Oh the condensed condensation is much cooler if you harvest it quickly.
All in all an expensive shell on a dehumidifier the box stores sell. Oh you could skip the solar and just plug it in and pay back would be a couple months!
0:33 I can't find a single map online that is similar to this map. I'm further skeptical because it's labeled "then" and "now" instead of with actual, verifiable dates. Anyone have any thoughts or leads on this?
Video begins at 2:02
Actually, no. it begins at 3:35
Deep dive those AWG's they were using please
it is only heating a bag and moisture is forming inside the bag ,
As you extract water out of the air don’t you make the air dryer?