I don't think it is as relevant as people may think. Yellows are going to drop with one less affix compared to legendary. It seems yellows are no longer be used in the end game
yeah and just the fact that we don't have to glance over 10 lines of text on every item that drops with lots of weird shit like damage on tuesdays is the best thing for me. now we get like 500 strength 25 % more crit damage 300 health and then we can add even more stats to it, but we don't get eye cancer from the first glance
The affixes rework actually is cool, loads of potential to really have some unique items. they can build more on this system by having the recipes in the future like legendary affixes to be baked in further. I really see a lot of potential in it.
I'm doing a full 1 to 100 to test out everything. So far.. feels rly good. New helltides are packed with monsters and a rly good way to lvl up, crafting feels really good, etc. Season 4 is def going to be fun! Can't wait to see what they're going to add as a seasonal mechanic with all that new stuff.
This has me excited to play for the fist time since Beta and the first few campaign playthroughs! Could not stomach the time required to sort through yellows for the gems. I look forward to being able to play into upgrades while leveling and then the ability to tweak at the top end seems awesome. Codex is such a huge win as well.
Yeah I've never made 100 because after tier 4 it was just scrapping whole inventories of crap. Looking forward to codex change too; i feel like it'll help that I can test something out and go back without having to sacrifice my codex power
Helltides being available from level 1 feels good - although I have to admit once I took the boost (to start a new char and skip the campaign) the best thing was having all the map renown stuff out of the way to let me play the game instead of run around and redo stuff. Might just be a personal opinion but starting a new character and just 'getting into the play' without having to run around and redo stuff was about the best feeling ever. Leveling is fun - chores aren't. I'd love to see them do this going forward. The rest of it felt better - I'm optimistic and I noped out of the game before season 1 even dropped.
As a new player, I like this change as it makes it more straightforward initially to understand which gear to keep, but then allows you to tailor it If you choose.
I'm actually excited again for Diablo 4. A lot of these changes look promising. As somebody who exclusively wants to play minion Necro until the heat death of the universe, I can't tell you how cool minions are on PTR. Necro finally plays like a minion based class and I love it.
Please Rhykker, don't complain about the difficulty. Unless your playing on world tier one, the fact that there was a difficult encounter is SO WELCOME. The most fun i've had with this game is when i've struggled, please don't suggest to take it from us lol.
No, it's not. Boss fights need to be memorable. PoE has long, tough encounters, release D3 had Belial and Diablo and all of D2 and 1's bosses and various other encounters were tough. D4 currently is a children's game.@@TheCooderix
Diablo IV doesn't need saving. It was never lost. The way content creators play it is quite different than the majority of users, from people playing on console, to casual players on PC. The majority of people don't play games 40+ hours a week.
tbh the greater rift mechanic is kinda overhated, the poe map system is literally just "heres an area, go kill the boss" - there`s obviously much more to it but at its core its just "run around and kill stuff" - good arpg endgame systems *at thier core* dont need to be some crazy reinvent the wheel, revolutionary thing, so the pit really sounds like a good idea for the game
Having not played D3, I kinda dig the pit/greater rifts. Would I appreciate something a bit more innovative? Absolutely. Am I happy to have a more streamlined dungeon tier system to progress? Yup. If they can come up with something new/fun/innovative for end game then D4 will be cookin.
The majority of people rolling their eyes at this isn't because it's "the same thing over and over so it's bad" It's more of why the fuck wasn't this in the game in the first place? It was a system that worked in D3 and people loved it.
@@hectords164Excatly! I always had fun running rifts in D3. I thought the Gauntlet would be basically rifts in D4 but i was honestly disappointed with it. I dont want to have to plan out every step i take in a dungeon for max benefits so that i have a chance to get on a leaderboard. I just want to kill stuff and get meaningfull rewards. And the rifts satisfied that need.
I was thinking about this: How about we encounter a unique (not remodeled) boss fight every ~50ish levels down the pit? They could also have unique drop pools with special items only dropped by them, similar to the bosses on the map. It would be so cool to have like sub-story bosses in the pit, there's a lot more potential here than just to have 1000 levels of the same dungeons. Not that I'm complaining, I'm having a lot of fun on the PTR, just saying that the Pit could be even better!
I agree sounds like a cool idea mostly. One problem with that is that if you get a unique boss on X level of the pit and he has specific drops, once you're deeper in, you don't want to be doing lower levels again to farm loot. But I think your idea of having a stage boss even every 10-20 levels would be a great addition, even if they didn't have specific loot. Just to feel like a marker of progress and to mix it up.
itemization has really be well worked, i love that base item are simple and after it you work to make the item more complete with tempered and master-working
exactly. it was such a chore to look through a whole inventory of yellows, full of stats like "11 % more vulnerable damage to enemies affected by your shadow damage over time spells"
Nice man! Yea loving the PTR right now, to me it's better than all of the previous D4 Seasons altogether. To me, the "fun" part is fighting against any Boss: You don't get 1 shot, Boss doesn't 1 shot you, Boss doesn't die too quick, but not too slow. If Blizzard find that sweet spot, it can be fun grinding over and over.
Ty for the video the changes are looking good. I can't wait to try on my ps5 in season 4. It looks like a step in right direction double swing twister barb looks cool
I wish they added the choice to keep your previous tempering when you reroll (ofc still consuming the reroll point) so if a manual has 1 decent 1 good and 3 trash options for your build you could keep fishing from decent to good without the potential to brick it
Currently running a minion build, no uniques and only a few tempering upgrades and so far it's viable to 110 quite easily. Going to try a Rogue today I think or maybe a Sorc. It seems like there will be more combinations, almost the opposite of D3 as I think I ran Unhallowed Essence multishot build more seasons than not. Hopefully this actually holds true! I did brick a couple of items but didn't feel like it was the end of the world or anything as I still had other items I could temper.
Man that multishoot build sure was fun in D3. Never really played Amazon in D2 but filling the screen with arrows just feels amazing. Have not played D4 yet, but since it’s 50% off right now I am seriously considering it.
After seeing the campfire I decided to start playing S3. While playing I realized that I enjoy the game, BUT I hate the end of a run, of any kind, just because of loot sorting. So much so that I stopped playing. So I am excited to play D4 2.0 😀 I think this is going to bring many back to the game. I said "I think" not for sure lol.
At the very least it has me interested enough to make a S4 toon and try it out, so I’d say we’re starting out on a minor W. Maybe a major one but that’s dependent on me actually having fun lol
It didn't feel lowered at all in the ptr for me, at least for legendaries. And there's a problem with rares not dropping as often...lack of veiled crystals.
They doubled drop rates for legendaries on ptr, but if they don't require veiled crystals to reroll on enchanting then sure but if they are required less drops equal less rerolling
they need to look at d2 more, like resistances to make game harder, and punish if you dont have it. getting hit make a movement delay. immune to dmg to specific dmg. runes and runewords.
My aggravation with playing this game is exactly what you stated: I have to portal back to town halfway through a nightmare dungeon just to unload or sacrifice materials, and I always have one to two full stash tabs after playing for a single afternoon and then I have to waste an hour going through them later. If they correct just that stuff, I'm in.
@@Cameron-fk5fk Not for people who want to play the market and trade a bunch. Last epoch has less than 30 devs and they're able to figure out an infinite stash tab system.
Damage on Tuesdays, I think the game Tiny Rogues made fun of this lol. There is a new item called Lilith's Legacy and the effect changes depending on what day it is XD
I don't understand why people give D4 such a hard time. I enjoy it quite a bit. Is it the only game i play? No. Games don't need to be played forever always. Enjoy it for what it is and if you want things changed give feedback
Well… for me it’s a game I wanted to play long term. However the systems in place aren’t facilitating that because systems just aren’t coming together well. However there are things I do like about the game. The graphics and lore being a couple. The gameplay makes it hard sometimes 😢
You should check Warhammer 40K Inquisitor: Martyr's crafting system. Each item has a "crafting potential" counter and you can use mats to reroll any affix into another affix, and then you can reroll that affix to get a higher value, each operation costing "crafting potential". When the counter gets to 0, you can't modify the item anymore untill you get a specific type of crafting material to add more "crafting potential". You can basically do that until you get the "perfect item" with the affixes you want and the rolls you want, as long as you have mats. You can also increase the item level to keep up with your level if you really like a certain item, so it never becomes irrelevant. Everything you find can be turned into mats, so not finding that uber awesome legendary is not that bad, you still get farming mats, blueprints and something similar to nightmare dungeon keys (void crusade shards) that give uber awesome legendary items if you finish them. I'm by no means an expert, but as a casual player i found this crafting system the most enjoyable out of many ARPGs i've played.
Lot of people said D3 was bad... now look at D4 doing the same to fix it. Maybe D3 was not that bad in the end. And Im not talking about itemisation, but... the entire thing.
@@dazhxtan But the "Too cartonish" is like games being pixel art. Was part of it's time. D4 only have a better graphics motor, then? And you need a better PC for a better game? That sound... Bananas.
The reason it's becoming like D3 is because its core systems are quite similar to the previous game. Everything is dependent on weapon damage, so the only core stats anyone needs is weapon damage. You can see that with the need to scale everything into weapon % for it to be usable... They could have done a lot with their items. Instead the endgame itemization is trying to get +1 on the affix you want. Wide as a lake shallow as a puddle is still going to be an issue unless they completely redo the core formulas to make things scale in unique ways. Spell damage, damage over time, weapon attacks, minion stats. That's the criticism that people have with Diablo's systems and that even an ex D3 dev acknowledged. They made the systems too simple and streamlined, and D4 is repeating that. As for D3 itself... Oof. Where do you want to start? Cartoony graphics? Yeah, not a result of the system capabilities of the time. When potential players criticised them for that the devs attacked them. Fail. 'no end game'. But D2 didn't have an endgame either, you might say. But it did. there was uber Diablo, then the path to get to the uber trio fight. It wasn't there in the beginning, but they did add that in. Something D3 never did. The fact they hid the ability to have multiple skills of the same type assigned behind an option?! The fun of these games and what makes stories for the community isn't the treadmill or the punching bag. It's getting out of the gym and fighting the heavyweight champion that only 1% of players face. While also letting others do infinite baal runs or hope for a Zod rune. Or farm keys for someone else to do the encounters.
@@ferinzz I agree with that you say in the "thinking" part. I played Torchlight 1&2 and the cartoon style was trending in that years. TL IP was great because they focus in a light story with good items and bananas options. But the best part was the great value they put in my time and not in the competition again others. You really never lost in D2, or TL. In D3 you didn't played as you like... But post 2.0 for me was great the "stomp the demons". I did 60 or 50% of the 30+ seasons when the game went bananas. D4 is in no way "bananas mode" at the moment. Really boring for streamers, really boring to players that have little time, hard to swallow for whales, vicious circle of devs teams without energy every patch. The game market is huge! More than the 90s with the internet. And people can play a lot of games at the same time. And replay games from 20 years ago, too. Cartoon graphics is a no problem for me if the game take me 16 of 31 season of time.
If that is their only function, they might as well just drop the mats and spare us the trip to the blacksmith for salvaging. In their current state, whites/blues/yellows simply should not drop once you reach WT4. That is of course a bandaid solution. A much better solution would be to change those item types to give them a purpose.
@@FzNd Let's see how they deal with the feedback. I saw trying to change an aspect on a tempered item could take a ton of yellows...so one way or the other we still need yellow mats in T4 the question is how we will get the large amounts we need for some of the crafting. Drops would be less desirable and just the mat drop would be best. :)
Now imagine with the droprate returned to normal. Like he said there's at least 100% increased drop rate. Personally I feel like there should have been an upgrade system from blue to rare to legendary. Then maybe some runes(runewords) to create the final version of your weapon. Blues and rares already have the same amount of affixes now. Why not lean into that? At the end of the day, what's going to matter is what you can do with the build once you do have it 'complete'.
future solutions to reintegrate rare items and make them viable are plenty, especially in diablo universe 1 runewords that work only on rare drops 2 higher chance for rare to have greater affixes 3 add an extremely rare material drop ( not uber but close to it) that allows you to add an affix to rare 4 enhance and expand crafting options that would allow us to upgrade from white to legendary
Runewords existed before beta, they ripped them from the game before beta/launch so I would assume they are going to add as part of an expansion later on as blizzard have a tendency to create expansions out of original ideas from the base alpha game.
Seems to me like they have two teams of devs working on this game: the heavy hitters, and the pillow fighters. S1/S3 compared to S2/S4 is a strikingly noticeable difference in both quality and quantity of content.
This comment would apply if we had seen any of season 4 in the PTR, but there is none. The gear changes and crafting system has nothing to do with the seasonal teams lmao 😂 I understand your point but the PTR is in no way indicative of either seasonal team as they have nothing to do with the Loot 2.0 overhaul. Once season 4 comes out I’m sure your comment will once again apply.
@@faceman3585I’m sure it has to do with combining these massive changes and the season. They didn’t want to reveal the season during the PTR and I like that. Keeps the anticipation high while also getting a little sneak peak during ptr with gear.
Personal opinions: - The zoomed out camera does not look that zoomed out to me, but than again I didn't mind the old view - it just feels like the new view is super slightly zoomed out - not like fully zoomed out when you are fighting a world boss or Lilith. - They should make the drop of hyprerolled items more visible - the numbers are bearly visible - some red color like in D3 would be nice - same for the inventory - just a small border to make it more visible. - The Necro minions build with Bone Spear are actually fun now even with only 1 day of playing I got really hyped to experience it in full in the season
This is without a doubt a big win for D4. The Codex is godlike. Pit and Helltide are fun. We finally got good summon builds. The new Ubers 200 are actually Ubers. They should rename the lvl 100 ones into something else. And most of all, we got some real crafting. Very happy overall. And personally I'm also happy with the consolidation of incense and elixir crafting. We can finally get to use them without feeling like I wanna press Alt+F4.
I recently hit back to D2R for Season 6. After playing all these Last Epochs, D4s, PoEs...I cannot believe how actually great itemization system D2 has. Every single item type MATTERS and i exciting to look for. Whites? - runeword bases, Blues? - crafitng bases; Yellows - powerfull items used in endgame; While in D4 we ended up with silly "powers" which are really exhausting to go through, whites, blues and yellows stop making sense around lvl 30 when legendaries start popping up. It's just sad
I heard the same things back at launch "game feels good", "things are alright", "Blizzard is heading to the right direction with this game"... With that said. Can't wait to play this game in Season 28 with all the DLC for only 15$.. Thanks for all the beta testers.
It seems like a great step, but the problem is that trust is gone for many people. I will play seasons, just like I did in D3, but it is hard to see myself getting involved like I did with D2. Thankfully, we have other options these days.
Cool stuff, now i only wish they would unlock the paragon after lvl 100; like have each level after 100 require x10 more exp and give only 1 paragon point but still give something
@@mr.izanami1796 Well, i think the game engine limitations are the main reason for the way they implemented new camera view. I'm using an ultra-wide 34" monitor and with the "far" camera setting and I can see a lot of added bricks, stones and other materials that the designers have used to fill empty peripheral space near the edges of the screen in dungeons.
Man I want to see this roll out in S3. Would be nice to finish it but i really cant drag my ass through the slog of playing the game in its current state. This looks promising.
I think that helltide should be a culmination of all of the overworld content. taking the seasonal stuff as well of the CNY idea. this way you can have some sort of randomizaiton of what you can do during HT.
the game feels so smooth and *easy* in a way of understanding what you want from the items and the builds you go for, i played PTR with barbarian and man this was the best time i ever had with my main and beloved class! i played 3 speccs so far *the Double Swing Storm* the *WW Cyclone* and the Shockwave specc, so far the fastest and strongest is the Double Swing. the new legendary system is pretty strait forward and easy to understand and how to work with it. the Pits are great feels like *Greater Rifts* from diablo 3. how ever i would love to see much more mobs to kill as we move up in tiers levels. something that i wish like the Cow Level *full of vast mobs to kill* i only ask now for tier sets * green legendarys pieces* that give us few extra *ability* builds bonus like we have in diablo 2 and 3. more weapons, more Lore, more stories to read about, i love to read all the *story* on the unique items and we sure need more unique items in the game. also we should get a special *material* if you destroy an unique item and with that material using 5 of them we could make a unique item that we wanted for the *class* in item gear not as a weapon! as i know all of you would go for the *grand father or doombringer* but a gear piece would be awsome! also we need a pet that can pick up items and gold. its not fun when you are full stack of buffs or power ups and u need to stop the route of killing to pick up items. let us have a pet Demon or pet Angel to pick up items that we chose in the options *only pick up legendary items or rare items or blue....* and when the pet inventory is full we can use our space inventory to pick up the rest! this will make the game much more *playable* in terms of keep fighting to kill mobs not fighting to pick up items!
I will never be excited by D4's itemization without having any negative consequences to uniques. Uniques in my mind are only powerful when they come with a drawback. That type of itemization is the best by far. Great risk, great reward. Otherwise everything is powerful and you are just going through needless hoops to obtain optimization
even though Rhykker is sponsored by blizzard, and he is overselling how fun the game is now.. He still manages to explain extremely well how it all works, and all the improvements. Great video... I think I will wait a year or so before I try the game again, then they have time to improve it even more.. It COULD turn out great in the end 🙂
It’s good changes, but my problem is that all of this feedback was extensively given before the game was even released. People shouldn’t have to wait a year for games to be playable, most this stuff was extremely obvious to everyone.
This update is brilliant. Don't have to rely on uniques. Helltide is absolutely fun now and challenging. I am running 2 classes, Bleed Barb as they have reworked Rupture. Seriously strong now. Picked up a ring giving me 75% damage over time, have yet to master work it. A lot of Barb skills now have flat damage increase rather than % damage on weapon. The other is a minion thorns build. Can iron maiden the entire screen and healing priest upgrade to heal you, spam iron maiden and heal priest all corpses. Using decompse as the only real attack skill. So tanky. Can stand in place on hell tide vampire shrine and just spam iron maiden occasionally and priest healing.
I am the only one that is not liking lowering drop rates. It just means we will have more trouble gearing. The solution to less inv management is not lowering the drops put to implement a loot filter. This way we keep the chance to get the item we need, but can ignore the ones we dont.
I feel the main problem from talking with many friends is that FINDING items is just not fun in D4. You find yellows and then put legendary powers on them. This base way of getting legendaries is just not fun or interesting really at all at least for me or anyone I have talked to about it. Compared to other ARPGs where there are HUNDREDS of uniques, sets, legendaries etc. etc. all with their own artwork etc, I cant help but feel extremely disappointed on how it works in D4. However I know this would require a complete re-design of the game but yeah guess I am just not their target audience. I know D4 has uniques but there is just not enough of them (like 5-7 per class? lol) and not enough of them are build worthy really like in other ARPGs. Anyways, I liked my time with D4 playing through the campaign and playing some end game to tier 4 dungeons but after a while the way in how items drop just was not fun. I will give season 4 a try but I honestly think these devs are extremely incompetent (except their art, sound and animations teams, they are amazing) in their design system choices. Their dev campfire online videos just show a group of devs who do not really sound like gamers or that they are even passionate about this game or games in general. It feels like these devs are just working their job for a paycheck and couldn't care less. Passion really makes a HUGE difference in how good a game ends up (look at Baldur's Gate 3) and this game feels like a corporate shell of a video game designed around its store. All the amazing artwork in the store that could have been included on unique gear, legendaries, sets, runewords (why are these not in the game?). Anyways end rant.
Good overview of the bigger changes/additions to the game. I've finally had a chance to get some decent playtime in and I'll add couple more nice revisions. Nightmare dungeons are much more simplified in terms of sigil modifiers...on the ancestral sigils I've found/crafted, there's just one positive modifier (highlighted in green) and one negative modifier (and it gives the monster level as well) so this makes it much easier to not only sift through sigils but also a bit easier in terms of gameplay. One caveat is that I haven't done any sigils beyond level 51, so perhaps higher level sigils have more negative mods. However, I discovered an interesting incentive to run Nightmare Dungeons - goblin packs! Twice I've run into packs of 4+ goblins (they were gathered around a shrine) and it was a lot of fun chasing them down. Goblins do indeed drop boss summoning mats (and also tempering manuals I believe)...also, the end of dungeon rewards can include both tempering manuals and crafting mats, so Nightmare Dungeons seem to be a nice alternative to farming in The Pit and/or Helltide. Given that drop rates in Season 4 are likely to be reduced overall, hunting down goblin packs could be a good tactic to get more legendaries and maybe a +2 or more enhanced stat version.
I've been out of the loop for a bit. This is exciting news. 2 questions: 1. What's going on with Paragon boards? Still gotta respect and click all the bubbles over to change builds? 2. Any loadout options yet?
Edited: Look at all those dust devils in the Helltide segment my god.. It saddens me seeing thorns no longer on the emerald as playing around with a thorns barbarian is fun sometimes, I built a Thorns Barb for Season Two and roaming in the Bloodtide with most things dying by tapping me was so nice..
The more I heard the more I like it. No more Best In Slot items, since there are so many combinations it won't be possible to test out all the possible combinations of Tempering on a slot, due to masterwork required as well to hit 3 times on same affix. Everybody will have their unique items and this is exciting.
There’s already a gigantic patch out for this game. Not only does it totally fix itemization, it also introduces a really cool skill system that encourages tons of build diversity on top of regular character progression that feels really good. I think they’re calling it “Last Epoch” or something like that.
I had the same sinking feeling when I saw mostly the same 6-7 affixes on gear. I’ve enjoyed the crafting process and the loop it’s created though so I’m overall happy about the changes. I am slightly hesitant that same base stats on gear is going to get a little stale overtime so hopefully they’ll add some additional twists overtime.
Hey Rhykker, A thought I have for what to do with White, Blue, Yellow items. What if the tempering system is utilized there? So, your max affixes for an item are 5. Legendaries are 3 +2. What if Rare, magic, plain could be 2+3, 1+4, and 0+5 respectively? You're sacrificing normal bonuses like crit chance, attack speed, and max life for a hyper-customized item for your build.
I've already suggested that we get that "Salvaged Aspect Inventory" from season 3 to be turned into a second player inventory. I hope they do this for us.
I would love it if there was an item that had a crazy Uber like drop rate that could reset tempering. Would give a reason to hold onto an item and hope for the drop and when it did drop you’d be mentally cheering with fingers crossed to unbrick an amazing item. Course, if it still failed, it would hurt like loosing an HC character so… well I still hope they do something like it lol.
I'm really happy about all the materials we get now from open world activities and helltides. It locks you in to certain activities much less. We just need some glyph progress outside of NMDs now. I don't know how they would do it; maybe a material that drops, and a receptable in town or the jewelrer that you upgrade the glyphs at.
This seems really good to me. I don't have many hours to play and loved blood tides in S2. Didn't love the constant teleport to town to chuck items so, this feels like it will make the game faster and more focussed on whizzing about killing everything.
Going from 4 affixes on drops to only 3 is a big positive change. I'm playing a Bone Spirit Necro in S3 right now, and one of the biggest frustrations I encounter is when a 920+ item drops with 2 really great affixes (i.e., max Crit Chance and high Resource Gen on an offhand), but the other two affixes are garbage. I can roll one affix, but the item is still trash. With only 3 affixes on gear, getting 2 great affixes means I can roll the third garbage affix and still have an amazing item. Also, you are way more likely to get 2/3 than 3/4. That's just maths.
The vulnerable damage to crowd control might be a bug. It isn't in your character sheet and the sapphire, I believe, when you put it in a weapon it changes from critical strike damage to vulnerable damage to crowd control. And the vulnerable damage to crowd control stat appears in your character sheet. It might not be an intentional stat.
6:25 tried the “enhanced visuals” on Series X for the first time yesterday and it took such a bad hit it was basically damn near u playable once everything starts filling the screen. It looks decent without it on Series X though. Near Baldur’s Gate 3 quality on Series X. It’s so nice compared to D3. It would be nice to have the enhanced on pc though. If only consoles got with the program and used Nvidea cards so we could have DLSS on console. Now that would be a serious game changer for console. Can you imagine?
I did the same, and it was weird and laggy at first. But the more I played with advanced visuals the more it started to smooth out. Like it needed to load assets and keep them in Ramm to run smoothly or something.
I'm glad to see they implement seasonal stuff into the base game and hopefully the cool ideas carry over in the future as well so the game can grow with features that are preferably interesting and fun to engage with.
I'm really getting the impression that, to probably no-ones surprise, Diablo 4 was launched "early" in an underdeveloped state. Things simply were not tested or polished. Now, post-launch, they've actually done a bit of the needed extra development. Remember when games were just launched in a ready state and developers didn't have a way to patch it afterwards, so they actually had to finish develop their game before the released it?
I was enjoying D4 as is before this PTR, despite some gripes with the games systems, but this iteration has massively improved the overall game experience+ replayability imo. Feels a lot easier to experiment with different build ideas without feeling like im throwing away aspects when imprint them. So far it seems a lot easier to put together a build blueprint, and then once i decide that i like it i can start farming stuff to iterate and improve on it, which is where the grind with tempering and masterworking comes in.
The permanent aspect keeping is probably the best thing for me...
Agreed, easily the best part for me as well.
But is it reset every seaon?
@@Mercueryprobably/hopefully
I don't think it is as relevant as people may think. Yellows are going to drop with one less affix compared to legendary. It seems yellows are no longer be used in the end game
@@CostelloDamianYes yellows will be useless in the end game
We have control over 3 out of 5 affixes now as opposed to barely any control over 1 out 4 previously. The improvements to re-rolling are welcome.
yeah and just the fact that we don't have to glance over 10 lines of text on every item that drops with lots of weird shit like damage on tuesdays is the best thing for me.
now we get like
500 strength
25 % more crit damage
300 health
and then we can add even more stats to it, but we don't get eye cancer from the first glance
This was exactly my thoughts as well.
oh Yes!
The affixes rework actually is cool, loads of potential to really have some unique items. they can build more on this system by having the recipes in the future like legendary affixes to be baked in further. I really see a lot of potential in it.
My thoughts also. They can innovate more class specific affixes through recipes.
100 percent, they have these cool system they can build further and expand, good move for d4 devs.
@johnWayne-vd1qy Last Epoch is a good game. But the gear is sooooo boring.
@@AlphaSilverback 🤡🤡🤡🤡
its literally what d4 has done now, what the fuck are you smoking? or are you choking on something there? not smoke i mean@@AlphaSilverback
"damage on Tuesdays" gets me every time
It shouldn't. That's a bug. It should only get you on a Tuesday
@@SuperLifestream Best comment
Guess you haven't heard the "Damage to ugly enemies" and "Damage to frozen enemies who are moving" yet :P
I'm not sure what he is talking about these stats are still around, got a ton of items with DMG to close and crap still
Why Tuesdays?
I'm doing a full 1 to 100 to test out everything. So far.. feels rly good. New helltides are packed with monsters and a rly good way to lvl up, crafting feels really good, etc. Season 4 is def going to be fun! Can't wait to see what they're going to add as a seasonal mechanic with all that new stuff.
This has me excited to play for the fist time since Beta and the first few campaign playthroughs! Could not stomach the time required to sort through yellows for the gems. I look forward to being able to play into upgrades while leveling and then the ability to tweak at the top end seems awesome. Codex is such a huge win as well.
Yeah I've never made 100 because after tier 4 it was just scrapping whole inventories of crap. Looking forward to codex change too; i feel like it'll help that I can test something out and go back without having to sacrifice my codex power
Helltides being available from level 1 feels good - although I have to admit once I took the boost (to start a new char and skip the campaign) the best thing was having all the map renown stuff out of the way to let me play the game instead of run around and redo stuff. Might just be a personal opinion but starting a new character and just 'getting into the play' without having to run around and redo stuff was about the best feeling ever. Leveling is fun - chores aren't. I'd love to see them do this going forward. The rest of it felt better - I'm optimistic and I noped out of the game before season 1 even dropped.
“Damage on Tuesdays” reminds me of the episode of Star Trek when Kirk makes up “Fizbin” card game
As a new player, I like this change as it makes it more straightforward initially to understand which gear to keep, but then allows you to tailor it If you choose.
What was wrong with D2 itemization and why do they refuse to go back to a similar system?
I'm actually excited again for Diablo 4. A lot of these changes look promising.
As somebody who exclusively wants to play minion Necro until the heat death of the universe, I can't tell you how cool minions are on PTR.
Necro finally plays like a minion based class and I love it.
oh sounds nice
must check it out
They're not getting wiped out immediately on end-game content?
Please Rhykker, don't complain about the difficulty. Unless your playing on world tier one, the fact that there was a difficult encounter is SO WELCOME. The most fun i've had with this game is when i've struggled, please don't suggest to take it from us lol.
I generally agree, unless it actually took him 5 minutes, in which case that's ridiculous.
No, it's not. Boss fights need to be memorable. PoE has long, tough encounters, release D3 had Belial and Diablo and all of D2 and 1's bosses and various other encounters were tough.
D4 currently is a children's game.@@TheCooderix
@@mrtoothlessthere was no difficulty in boss fights in d3
In the beginning of D3 it was actually stupidly difficult, but they completely revamped the game within a year@@captaininsulin2154
@@captaininsulin2154In Vanilla D3 there was
15:20: Barb + beans = disaster
Barbs continue to colled obnoxious builds that annoy everyone in events :)
@@mapron1 In general, it'd be great if we got some options to limit visibility of other players' effects, like a lot of MMOs have.
Then mix in a druid filling the screen with landslides.
@@mapron1 yeah especialy the charge and its annoying AF
Diablo IV doesn't need saving. It was never lost. The way content creators play it is quite different than the majority of users, from people playing on console, to casual players on PC. The majority of people don't play games 40+ hours a week.
tbh the greater rift mechanic is kinda overhated, the poe map system is literally just "heres an area, go kill the boss" - there`s obviously much more to it but at its core its just "run around and kill stuff" - good arpg endgame systems *at thier core* dont need to be some crazy reinvent the wheel, revolutionary thing, so the pit really sounds like a good idea for the game
Having not played D3, I kinda dig the pit/greater rifts. Would I appreciate something a bit more innovative? Absolutely. Am I happy to have a more streamlined dungeon tier system to progress? Yup. If they can come up with something new/fun/innovative for end game then D4 will be cookin.
The majority of people rolling their eyes at this isn't because it's "the same thing over and over so it's bad"
It's more of why the fuck wasn't this in the game in the first place?
It was a system that worked in D3 and people loved it.
Spoken like someone who has never played PoE. The map system has an entire skill tree with more depth than everything in D4 combined.
@@Cryttanz I tried to get into POE, but I work 50+ hours/week at a job with lots of data, SQL, excel etc... and it felt too much like my job 😂
@@hectords164Excatly! I always had fun running rifts in D3. I thought the Gauntlet would be basically rifts in D4 but i was honestly disappointed with it. I dont want to have to plan out every step i take in a dungeon for max benefits so that i have a chance to get on a leaderboard. I just want to kill stuff and get meaningfull rewards. And the rifts satisfied that need.
Zoom out feature? I'm in!
I'm not even kidding...it actually bugged me so much...
It's 20%. Not saying that isn't good but. 20%. 😂
I guess it is something.
it feels like its not very noticeable at first but once you leave town you notice how nice the zoom feels@@HuskerDerp
Had way more fun than I expected. I haven't played since Season 1 and I'm genuinely excited to check back in when the season starts.
I was thinking about this:
How about we encounter a unique (not remodeled) boss fight every ~50ish levels down the pit?
They could also have unique drop pools with special items only dropped by them, similar to the bosses on the map.
It would be so cool to have like sub-story bosses in the pit, there's a lot more potential here than just to have 1000 levels of the same dungeons.
Not that I'm complaining, I'm having a lot of fun on the PTR, just saying that the Pit could be even better!
I agree sounds like a cool idea mostly. One problem with that is that if you get a unique boss on X level of the pit and he has specific drops, once you're deeper in, you don't want to be doing lower levels again to farm loot. But I think your idea of having a stage boss even every 10-20 levels would be a great addition, even if they didn't have specific loot. Just to feel like a marker of progress and to mix it up.
I don't like that they removed thorns from the emeralds. I liked building thorns. we'll see how it goes.
helltide sounds fun now. uber boss should be taking 5 minutes to fight, if it were to die as fast as trash mobs its not uber anymore.
itemization has really be well worked, i love that base item are simple and after it you work to make the item more complete with tempered and master-working
exactly. it was such a chore to look through a whole inventory of yellows, full of stats like "11 % more vulnerable damage to enemies affected by your shadow damage over time spells"
Big fan of the pit being added
Nice man! Yea loving the PTR right now, to me it's better than all of the previous D4 Seasons altogether. To me, the "fun" part is fighting against any Boss: You don't get 1 shot, Boss doesn't 1 shot you, Boss doesn't die too quick, but not too slow. If Blizzard find that sweet spot, it can be fun grinding over and over.
It's crazy that D2 LOD 1.08 was more deep and fun than current D4
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Ty for the video the changes are looking good. I can't wait to try on my ps5 in season 4. It looks like a step in right direction double swing twister barb looks cool
Wow, I'm actually excited for D4 for the first time since the beta. Didn't see that coming.
I wish they added the choice to keep your previous tempering when you reroll (ofc still consuming the reroll point) so if a manual has 1 decent 1 good and 3 trash options for your build you could keep fishing from decent to good without the potential to brick it
Currently running a minion build, no uniques and only a few tempering upgrades and so far it's viable to 110 quite easily. Going to try a Rogue today I think or maybe a Sorc. It seems like there will be more combinations, almost the opposite of D3 as I think I ran Unhallowed Essence multishot build more seasons than not. Hopefully this actually holds true! I did brick a couple of items but didn't feel like it was the end of the world or anything as I still had other items I could temper.
every time I think about giving this game a chance, I remember that you only get 6 stash tabs. smh.
Man that multishoot build sure was fun in D3. Never really played Amazon in D2 but filling the screen with arrows just feels amazing.
Have not played D4 yet, but since it’s 50% off right now I am seriously considering it.
First time player here I went necromancer bone/corpse with alot of minion buffs and I'm smashing it currently level 65 on world tier 3 l.
After seeing the campfire I decided to start playing S3. While playing I realized that I enjoy the game, BUT I hate the end of a run, of any kind, just because of loot sorting. So much so that I stopped playing. So I am excited to play D4 2.0 😀 I think this is going to bring many back to the game. I said "I think" not for sure lol.
At the very least it has me interested enough to make a S4 toon and try it out, so I’d say we’re starting out on a minor W. Maybe a major one but that’s dependent on me actually having fun lol
These are the sorts of amazing changes that I didn't expect us to really see until an expansion, like with Reaper of Souls for D3.
Lowering the drop rate for everything is a great change
It didn't feel lowered at all in the ptr for me, at least for legendaries. And there's a problem with rares not dropping as often...lack of veiled crystals.
@@ShipdacheeseLegendary drop rate is doubled in the ptr.
They doubled drop rates for legendaries on ptr, but if they don't require veiled crystals to reroll on enchanting then sure but if they are required less drops equal less rerolling
@@Shipdacheese In the patch notes, if you read it, it says its ony doubled in the ptr
@@MightyMouthDFT veiled crystals are used for everything...masterworking, tempering etc. Not just re-rolling
they need to look at d2 more, like resistances to make game harder, and punish if you dont have it. getting hit make a movement delay. immune to dmg to specific dmg. runes and runewords.
My aggravation with playing this game is exactly what you stated: I have to portal back to town halfway through a nightmare dungeon just to unload or sacrifice materials, and I always have one to two full stash tabs after playing for a single afternoon and then I have to waste an hour going through them later. If they correct just that stuff, I'm in.
Would be amazing if Diablo dev's didn't always Mess up storage, only dev team that limits storage, on a Game MAINLY ABOUT LOOT
I think that will be pretty much solved in this update!
@@Brandon1267 probably not lol the devs are muppets.
It's solved, most of everyone's stash was aspects, that's all gone to the codex
@@Cameron-fk5fk Not for people who want to play the market and trade a bunch.
Last epoch has less than 30 devs and they're able to figure out an infinite stash tab system.
Damage on Tuesdays, I think the game Tiny Rogues made fun of this lol. There is a new item called Lilith's Legacy and the effect changes depending on what day it is XD
I don't understand why people give D4 such a hard time. I enjoy it quite a bit. Is it the only game i play? No. Games don't need to be played forever always. Enjoy it for what it is and if you want things changed give feedback
It is an objectively poorly made game for a lot of people flat out not fun at all and worse than games made before it.
Well… for me it’s a game I wanted to play long term. However the systems in place aren’t facilitating that because systems just aren’t coming together well. However there are things I do like about the game. The graphics and lore being a couple. The gameplay makes it hard sometimes 😢
You should check Warhammer 40K Inquisitor: Martyr's crafting system. Each item has a "crafting potential" counter and you can use mats to reroll any affix into another affix, and then you can reroll that affix to get a higher value, each operation costing "crafting potential". When the counter gets to 0, you can't modify the item anymore untill you get a specific type of crafting material to add more "crafting potential". You can basically do that until you get the "perfect item" with the affixes you want and the rolls you want, as long as you have mats. You can also increase the item level to keep up with your level if you really like a certain item, so it never becomes irrelevant. Everything you find can be turned into mats, so not finding that uber awesome legendary is not that bad, you still get farming mats, blueprints and something similar to nightmare dungeon keys (void crusade shards) that give uber awesome legendary items if you finish them. I'm by no means an expert, but as a casual player i found this crafting system the most enjoyable out of many ARPGs i've played.
I appreciate your cautious optimism.
Lot of people said D3 was bad... now look at D4 doing the same to fix it. Maybe D3 was not that bad in the end. And Im not talking about itemisation, but... the entire thing.
D3 is bad cause the graphic is too cartoony..now with D4 graphic is perfect
@@dazhxtan But the "Too cartonish" is like games being pixel art. Was part of it's time. D4 only have a better graphics motor, then? And you need a better PC for a better game? That sound... Bananas.
The reason it's becoming like D3 is because its core systems are quite similar to the previous game. Everything is dependent on weapon damage, so the only core stats anyone needs is weapon damage. You can see that with the need to scale everything into weapon % for it to be usable...
They could have done a lot with their items. Instead the endgame itemization is trying to get +1 on the affix you want.
Wide as a lake shallow as a puddle is still going to be an issue unless they completely redo the core formulas to make things scale in unique ways. Spell damage, damage over time, weapon attacks, minion stats. That's the criticism that people have with Diablo's systems and that even an ex D3 dev acknowledged.
They made the systems too simple and streamlined, and D4 is repeating that.
As for D3 itself... Oof. Where do you want to start?
Cartoony graphics? Yeah, not a result of the system capabilities of the time. When potential players criticised them for that the devs attacked them. Fail.
'no end game'. But D2 didn't have an endgame either, you might say. But it did. there was uber Diablo, then the path to get to the uber trio fight. It wasn't there in the beginning, but they did add that in. Something D3 never did.
The fact they hid the ability to have multiple skills of the same type assigned behind an option?!
The fun of these games and what makes stories for the community isn't the treadmill or the punching bag. It's getting out of the gym and fighting the heavyweight champion that only 1% of players face. While also letting others do infinite baal runs or hope for a Zod rune. Or farm keys for someone else to do the encounters.
@@ferinzz I agree with that you say in the "thinking" part.
I played Torchlight 1&2 and the cartoon style was trending in that years. TL IP was great because they focus in a light story with good items and bananas options. But the best part was the great value they put in my time and not in the competition again others. You really never lost in D2, or TL.
In D3 you didn't played as you like... But post 2.0 for me was great the "stomp the demons". I did 60 or 50% of the 30+ seasons when the game went bananas. D4 is in no way "bananas mode" at the moment. Really boring for streamers, really boring to players that have little time, hard to swallow for whales, vicious circle of devs teams without energy every patch.
The game market is huge! More than the 90s with the internet. And people can play a lot of games at the same time. And replay games from 20 years ago, too. Cartoon graphics is a no problem for me if the game take me 16 of 31 season of time.
HYYYYPE!! So many awesome changes, thanks for compiling them.
Agreed on the crafting mats. We do still need yellows for crafting and not a huge amount were dropping in T4.
If that is their only function, they might as well just drop the mats and spare us the trip to the blacksmith for salvaging. In their current state, whites/blues/yellows simply should not drop once you reach WT4.
That is of course a bandaid solution. A much better solution would be to change those item types to give them a purpose.
@@FzNd Let's see how they deal with the feedback. I saw trying to change an aspect on a tempered item could take a ton of yellows...so one way or the other we still need yellow mats in T4 the question is how we will get the large amounts we need for some of the crafting. Drops would be less desirable and just the mat drop would be best. :)
Now imagine with the droprate returned to normal. Like he said there's at least 100% increased drop rate.
Personally I feel like there should have been an upgrade system from blue to rare to legendary. Then maybe some runes(runewords) to create the final version of your weapon.
Blues and rares already have the same amount of affixes now. Why not lean into that?
At the end of the day, what's going to matter is what you can do with the build once you do have it 'complete'.
Thanks for your review! I’m totally looking forward to Season 4!!!
In my opinion Blizzard did it, they actually saved Diablo 4.
future solutions to reintegrate rare items and make them viable are plenty, especially in diablo universe
1 runewords that work only on rare drops
2 higher chance for rare to have greater affixes
3 add an extremely rare material drop ( not uber but close to it) that allows you to add an affix to rare
4 enhance and expand crafting options that would allow us to upgrade from white to legendary
Runewords existed before beta, they ripped them from the game before beta/launch so I would assume they are going to add as part of an expansion later on as blizzard have a tendency to create expansions out of original ideas from the base alpha game.
I suspect any rune/cube system is being saved for an expansion or big update like in D2 and D3
I was already enjoying D4, it’ll only be better now
"Who would have thought most fun thing to do is go around killing monster" - literally what D3 end game was about (and made it so fun....)
Seems to me like they have two teams of devs working on this game: the heavy hitters, and the pillow fighters. S1/S3 compared to S2/S4 is a strikingly noticeable difference in both quality and quantity of content.
S1/S3 felt like filler content
One of teams was surely the A Team that worked on Diablo 2 Resurrected....would explain why we haven't gotten D2R updates in such a long time 🥺
This comment would apply if we had seen any of season 4 in the PTR, but there is none. The gear changes and crafting system has nothing to do with the seasonal teams lmao 😂 I understand your point but the PTR is in no way indicative of either seasonal team as they have nothing to do with the Loot 2.0 overhaul. Once season 4 comes out I’m sure your comment will once again apply.
@@GDub356 Then why was S4 delayed???
@@faceman3585I’m sure it has to do with combining these massive changes and the season. They didn’t want to reveal the season during the PTR and I like that. Keeps the anticipation high while also getting a little sneak peak during ptr with gear.
Personal opinions:
- The zoomed out camera does not look that zoomed out to me, but than again I didn't mind the old view - it just feels like the new view is super slightly zoomed out - not like fully zoomed out when you are fighting a world boss or Lilith.
- They should make the drop of hyprerolled items more visible - the numbers are bearly visible - some red color like in D3 would be nice - same for the inventory - just a small border to make it more visible.
- The Necro minions build with Bone Spear are actually fun now even with only 1 day of playing I got really hyped to experience it in full in the season
People are problematic as much as D4. More damage in crowd controlled enemies is not hyper conditional.
This is without a doubt a big win for D4. The Codex is godlike. Pit and Helltide are fun. We finally got good summon builds. The new Ubers 200 are actually Ubers. They should rename the lvl 100 ones into something else. And most of all, we got some real crafting. Very happy overall.
And personally I'm also happy with the consolidation of incense and elixir crafting. We can finally get to use them without feeling like I wanna press Alt+F4.
Looks like I'll be coming back to D4... at least for a while.
Stay a while and… play 🤔
I recently hit back to D2R for Season 6. After playing all these Last Epochs, D4s, PoEs...I cannot believe how actually great itemization system D2 has. Every single item type MATTERS and i exciting to look for. Whites? - runeword bases, Blues? - crafitng bases; Yellows - powerfull items used in endgame; While in D4 we ended up with silly "powers" which are really exhausting to go through, whites, blues and yellows stop making sense around lvl 30 when legendaries start popping up. It's just sad
I was going to test PTR but 95gb download on my internet is a no no lol
I heard the same things back at launch "game feels good", "things are alright", "Blizzard is heading to the right direction with this game"...
With that said. Can't wait to play this game in Season 28 with all the DLC for only 15$.. Thanks for all the beta testers.
It seems like a great step, but the problem is that trust is gone for many people. I will play seasons, just like I did in D3, but it is hard to see myself getting involved like I did with D2.
Thankfully, we have other options these days.
Cool stuff, now i only wish they would unlock the paragon after lvl 100; like have each level after 100 require x10 more exp and give only 1 paragon point but still give something
Devs take advice from diablo 3 streamers
Diablo 3 streamers when Diablo 4 becomes Diablo 3: :o
i love the changes - i haven't been this excited about diablo 4 since the vanilla release!
The brand new "zoom-out" camera is great as well.
its not zoomed out enough...its a joke. its not even a slider its just normal and "far"...
@@mr.izanami1796 Well, i think the game engine limitations are the main reason for the way they implemented new camera view. I'm using an ultra-wide 34" monitor and with the "far" camera setting and I can see a lot of added bricks, stones and other materials that the designers have used to fill empty peripheral space near the edges of the screen in dungeons.
Ty Rhykker, sounds great :) I'm realy looking forward to season 4 :D
Man I want to see this roll out in S3. Would be nice to finish it but i really cant drag my ass through the slog of playing the game in its current state. This looks promising.
Yeah I never thought I'd say a game drops too much loot until D4. Lol
Aah, just 5 more test realms and the game will be ready to play. Great!
Coming into beta version.
I think that helltide should be a culmination of all of the overworld content. taking the seasonal stuff as well of the CNY idea. this way you can have some sort of randomizaiton of what you can do during HT.
SO far so good. D4 good.
the game feels so smooth and *easy* in a way of understanding what you want from the items and the builds you go for, i played PTR with barbarian and man this was the best time i ever had with my main and beloved class! i played 3 speccs so far *the Double Swing Storm* the *WW Cyclone* and the Shockwave specc, so far the fastest and strongest is the Double Swing.
the new legendary system is pretty strait forward and easy to understand and how to work with it.
the Pits are great feels like *Greater Rifts* from diablo 3. how ever i would love to see much more mobs to kill as we move up in tiers levels. something that i wish like the Cow Level *full of vast mobs to kill*
i only ask now for tier sets * green legendarys pieces* that give us few extra *ability* builds bonus like we have in diablo 2 and 3.
more weapons, more Lore, more stories to read about, i love to read all the *story* on the unique items and we sure need more unique items in the game. also we should get a special *material* if you destroy an unique item and with that material using 5 of them we could make a unique item that we wanted for the *class* in item gear not as a weapon! as i know all of you would go for the *grand father or doombringer* but a gear piece would be awsome!
also we need a pet that can pick up items and gold. its not fun when you are full stack of buffs or power ups and u need to stop the route of killing to pick up items. let us have a pet Demon or pet Angel to pick up items that we chose in the options *only pick up legendary items or rare items or blue....* and when the pet inventory is full we can use our space inventory to pick up the rest!
this will make the game much more *playable* in terms of keep fighting to kill mobs not fighting to pick up items!
I will never be excited by D4's itemization without having any negative consequences to uniques. Uniques in my mind are only powerful when they come with a drawback. That type of itemization is the best by far. Great risk, great reward. Otherwise everything is powerful and you are just going through needless hoops to obtain optimization
Who hurt you?
@@LeginNoslenlol
your obviously not a poe player@@LeginNoslen
even though Rhykker is sponsored by blizzard, and he is overselling how fun the game is now.. He still manages to explain extremely well how it all works, and all the improvements. Great video... I think I will wait a year or so before I try the game again, then they have time to improve it even more.. It COULD turn out great in the end 🙂
24 more seasons to go before this game gets good.
Dont be exaggerated, the game will be good in just 10 more seasons 😅
This game is good right now.
Let it cook
Game is decent.
@@bradencluster4739 You and the other 3 people who agree with you can group up!
It’s good changes, but my problem is that all of this feedback was extensively given before the game was even released. People shouldn’t have to wait a year for games to be playable, most this stuff was extremely obvious to everyone.
This update is brilliant. Don't have to rely on uniques. Helltide is absolutely fun now and challenging.
I am running 2 classes, Bleed Barb as they have reworked Rupture. Seriously strong now. Picked up a ring giving me 75% damage over time, have yet to master work it. A lot of Barb skills now have flat damage increase rather than % damage on weapon.
The other is a minion thorns build. Can iron maiden the entire screen and healing priest upgrade to heal you, spam iron maiden and heal priest all corpses. Using decompse as the only real attack skill. So tanky. Can stand in place on hell tide vampire shrine and just spam iron maiden occasionally and priest healing.
I am the only one that is not liking lowering drop rates. It just means we will have more trouble gearing.
The solution to less inv management is not lowering the drops put to implement a loot filter. This way we keep the chance to get the item we need, but can ignore the ones we dont.
I feel the main problem from talking with many friends is that FINDING items is just not fun in D4. You find yellows and then put legendary powers on them. This base way of getting legendaries is just not fun or interesting really at all at least for me or anyone I have talked to about it. Compared to other ARPGs where there are HUNDREDS of uniques, sets, legendaries etc. etc. all with their own artwork etc, I cant help but feel extremely disappointed on how it works in D4. However I know this would require a complete re-design of the game but yeah guess I am just not their target audience. I know D4 has uniques but there is just not enough of them (like 5-7 per class? lol) and not enough of them are build worthy really like in other ARPGs. Anyways, I liked my time with D4 playing through the campaign and playing some end game to tier 4 dungeons but after a while the way in how items drop just was not fun. I will give season 4 a try but I honestly think these devs are extremely incompetent (except their art, sound and animations teams, they are amazing) in their design system choices. Their dev campfire online videos just show a group of devs who do not really sound like gamers or that they are even passionate about this game or games in general. It feels like these devs are just working their job for a paycheck and couldn't care less. Passion really makes a HUGE difference in how good a game ends up (look at Baldur's Gate 3) and this game feels like a corporate shell of a video game designed around its store. All the amazing artwork in the store that could have been included on unique gear, legendaries, sets, runewords (why are these not in the game?). Anyways end rant.
Good overview of the bigger changes/additions to the game. I've finally had a chance to get some decent playtime in and I'll add couple more nice revisions. Nightmare dungeons are much more simplified in terms of sigil modifiers...on the ancestral sigils I've found/crafted, there's just one positive modifier (highlighted in green) and one negative modifier (and it gives the monster level as well) so this makes it much easier to not only sift through sigils but also a bit easier in terms of gameplay. One caveat is that I haven't done any sigils beyond level 51, so perhaps higher level sigils have more negative mods.
However, I discovered an interesting incentive to run Nightmare Dungeons - goblin packs! Twice I've run into packs of 4+ goblins (they were gathered around a shrine) and it was a lot of fun chasing them down. Goblins do indeed drop boss summoning mats (and also tempering manuals I believe)...also, the end of dungeon rewards can include both tempering manuals and crafting mats, so Nightmare Dungeons seem to be a nice alternative to farming in The Pit and/or Helltide. Given that drop rates in Season 4 are likely to be reduced overall, hunting down goblin packs could be a good tactic to get more legendaries and maybe a +2 or more enhanced stat version.
I've been out of the loop for a bit. This is exciting news. 2 questions:
1. What's going on with Paragon boards? Still gotta respect and click all the bubbles over to change builds?
2. Any loadout options yet?
Edited: Look at all those dust devils in the Helltide segment my god..
It saddens me seeing thorns no longer on the emerald as playing around with a thorns barbarian is fun sometimes, I built a Thorns Barb for Season Two and roaming in the Bloodtide with most things dying by tapping me was so nice..
Dude. Absolutely. I hope thorns is still something they touch on.
The more I heard the more I like it. No more Best In Slot items, since there are so many combinations it won't be possible to test out all the possible combinations of Tempering on a slot, due to masterwork required as well to hit 3 times on same affix. Everybody will have their unique items and this is exciting.
i play test it a little and i like the changes i dont want to get to into before s4 comes yes these changes makes me wanna play again when s4 is out
There’s already a gigantic patch out for this game. Not only does it totally fix itemization, it also introduces a really cool skill system that encourages tons of build diversity on top of regular character progression that feels really good. I think they’re calling it “Last Epoch” or something like that.
I had the same sinking feeling when I saw mostly the same 6-7 affixes on gear. I’ve enjoyed the crafting process and the loop it’s created though so I’m overall happy about the changes.
I am slightly hesitant that same base stats on gear is going to get a little stale overtime so hopefully they’ll add some additional twists overtime.
Hey Rhykker,
A thought I have for what to do with White, Blue, Yellow items. What if the tempering system is utilized there?
So, your max affixes for an item are 5. Legendaries are 3 +2. What if Rare, magic, plain could be 2+3, 1+4, and 0+5 respectively?
You're sacrificing normal bonuses like crit chance, attack speed, and max life for a hyper-customized item for your build.
I've already suggested that we get that "Salvaged Aspect Inventory" from season 3 to be turned into a second player inventory. I hope they do this for us.
This is a fantastic overview of how the changes feel. Thanks.
I would love it if there was an item that had a crazy Uber like drop rate that could reset tempering. Would give a reason to hold onto an item and hope for the drop and when it did drop you’d be mentally cheering with fingers crossed to unbrick an amazing item. Course, if it still failed, it would hurt like loosing an HC character so… well I still hope they do something like it lol.
This is a good idea.
I'm really happy about all the materials we get now from open world activities and helltides. It locks you in to certain activities much less. We just need some glyph progress outside of NMDs now. I don't know how they would do it; maybe a material that drops, and a receptable in town or the jewelrer that you upgrade the glyphs at.
I love how thoughtful all of your videos are bro
Definitely hopeful, I'd love to come back.
This seems really good to me. I don't have many hours to play and loved blood tides in S2. Didn't love the constant teleport to town to chuck items so, this feels like it will make the game faster and more focussed on whizzing about killing everything.
I was skeptical about season 4. But hearing all of this, I'm 100% playing it. Thank you for the update.
New merch idea. Just a black shirt that says "At home in the pit"
Going from 4 affixes on drops to only 3 is a big positive change. I'm playing a Bone Spirit Necro in S3 right now, and one of the biggest frustrations I encounter is when a 920+ item drops with 2 really great affixes (i.e., max Crit Chance and high Resource Gen on an offhand), but the other two affixes are garbage. I can roll one affix, but the item is still trash. With only 3 affixes on gear, getting 2 great affixes means I can roll the third garbage affix and still have an amazing item. Also, you are way more likely to get 2/3 than 3/4. That's just maths.
The vulnerable damage to crowd control might be a bug. It isn't in your character sheet and the sapphire, I believe, when you put it in a weapon it changes from critical strike damage to vulnerable damage to crowd control. And the vulnerable damage to crowd control stat appears in your character sheet. It might not be an intentional stat.
6:25 tried the “enhanced visuals” on Series X for the first time yesterday and it took such a bad hit it was basically damn near u playable once everything starts filling the screen. It looks decent without it on Series X though. Near Baldur’s Gate 3 quality on Series X. It’s so nice compared to D3. It would be nice to have the enhanced on pc though. If only consoles got with the program and used Nvidea cards so we could have DLSS on console. Now that would be a serious game changer for console. Can you imagine?
I did the same, and it was weird and laggy at first. But the more I played with advanced visuals the more it started to smooth out. Like it needed to load assets and keep them in Ramm to run smoothly or something.
I'm glad to see they implement seasonal stuff into the base game and hopefully the cool ideas carry over in the future as well so the game can grow with features that are preferably interesting and fun to engage with.
I hope they continue to make good changes because honestly it just doesn't seem worth picking up right now.
I'm really getting the impression that, to probably no-ones surprise, Diablo 4 was launched "early" in an underdeveloped state. Things simply were not tested or polished. Now, post-launch, they've actually done a bit of the needed extra development.
Remember when games were just launched in a ready state and developers didn't have a way to patch it afterwards, so they actually had to finish develop their game before the released it?
I love the buff and rework of the gems and that the NPCs are more consolidated in town!
Haven’t tried the pits yet but looking forward to it
I was enjoying D4 as is before this PTR, despite some gripes with the games systems, but this iteration has massively improved the overall game experience+ replayability imo. Feels a lot easier to experiment with different build ideas without feeling like im throwing away aspects when imprint them.
So far it seems a lot easier to put together a build blueprint, and then once i decide that i like it i can start farming stuff to iterate and improve on it, which is where the grind with tempering and masterworking comes in.
There is also goblin packs in nightmare dungeons now, not as big as in D3, but still a nice change.
Super excited about these changes and for the next season to drop!!
As a casual new gamepass player, it is encouraging to see players like yourself being positive to the changes ❤