Grading Every Draft From the NFC West
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Grading every pick in the NFC West for the #49ers #Rams #Seahawks #Cardinals in the 2024 #nfldraft
Why I do Draft Grades Videos:
This is a fun exercise to visit how I believe these players will produce for these teams, what these coaches and players can work on to make these Grades look wrong in a few years, vice versa, as well as what these Drafts might tell us about a certain team’s plans or opinions on existing players on their roster or the types of schemes they are looking to run.
DRAFT GRADING CRITERIA
DAYS 1 & 2
“S” -Certified Steal
• Need, team/scheme fit check out and the value is better than expected
“A”
• Value, need, and team/scheme fit all check out
“B”
• Good pick, but one of the following apply
o Player was a slight reach
o Positional value in question (1st Round Only)
o Team passed on a better player at the position for the team
o Team ignored value at a major need (1st Round Only)
o Team/Scheme fit is in question
o An otherwise “C” graded pick due to value and/or better players being available, but a massive hole at a value position (QB, OT, WR, ED, DT, CB) was addressed in Round 1 with a still good player that wouldn’t have been available for the team later
“C”
• Fine pick but two of the following apply
o Player was a slight reach
o Positional value in question (1st Round Only)
o Team passed on a better player at the position for the team
o Team ignored value at a major need with (1st Round Only)
o Team/Scheme fit is in question
“D”
• Pick is in question as three of the following apply
o Player was a Slight reach
o Positional value in question (1st Round Only)
o Team passed on a better player at the position for the team
o Team ignored value at a major need with (1st Round Only)
o Team/Scheme fit is in question
OR Player was a major reach
“F”
• A truly inexplicable pick as player was a major reach, AND team passed on a better player at the position for the team, team/scheme fit is in question, or team ignored value at a major need or positional value is in question (1st Round Only)
"-" May be applied if pick required a high trade-up price
“+” For a reach following a trade-down
DAY 3
Certified Steal (Purple)
• Team stole a player who had a Day 1 or 2 grade who has a legit shot to be an impact player
Great Pick (Green)
• Team found above average value and a player with a legit chance to start within the first couple of seasons with the team OR a great role player in a key spot right away (Goal line back, #3 D-Lineman, TE2, dime back, kick returner, etc.)
Good Pick (Blue)
• Value lines up and player is in a great scheme or opportunity to find success as a starter or key role player relative to most Day 3 picks
Solid Pick (White)
• No notable criticisms of the pick but expectations should be tampered as with any Day 3 Pick
Reach / Will Regret Not Taking… / Not a fan (Orange)
• (Round 4 & 5 only) Player was a notable reach and/or notably better players would have been better picks, but the player still had a draftable grade
• (Round 6 & 7) Player was evaluated and did not have a draftable grade
Massive Reach (Red)
• (Round 4 & 5 only) Team took a player who did not have a draftable grade OR reached multiple rounds while passing on several better options for the position
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Cardinals 0:33
Rams 15:44
49ers 26:26
Seahawks 38:30
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As a Seahawks fan it’s so refreshing for someone to actually give analysis on us, we’re so often neglected by the media. Much appreciated
Drafting a d tackle at 16 just isnt really all that exciting. But that's how you win games.
@@yourdreams2440 my point is the sample size of the media not giving us attention goes past just this year
@@yourdreams2440Besides that like at the pick this year and last year they cut to commercial instead of being able to hear the analysis of the seahawks pick. We were like the only team not to get a graphic from Nfl. They put who would win DROY and put Chop instead of bro.I won’t say they snub us on awards cause some are arguable but come on. They posted like 2 other d tackles they just don’t care about the seahawks
@@MstHatd-yg2kdSeahawks usually never get a flashy pick. They always pick head scratchers to me that end up working out lol
@@MstHatd-yg2kd The only team the media wants to talk about is the Cowboys. Every other team needs to be winning to get media attention.
Excited to see your Hawks analysis! The national media has been hating on us, trying to act like Byron Murphy doesn't exist. From watching the livestreams, I feel like John Schneider's going to get some much deserved praise.
Fr, people are ranking us as last in the division for some reason
Fr. NFL had chop Robinson on a graphic for potential DROY candidates instead of Murphy which is disrespectful af
When I saw Seattle take Knight, yourself and Hail Mary sports immediately came to mind! Apparently Coach MacDonald loved that guy.
I as well never thought Murphy would fall to #16. Same with Haynes at #81. To me those two picks alone make it a very good draft. Two instant starters. Didn't see much of Knight but I know a few people like yourself loved the guy. Barner is basically Dissly 2.0 so it makes sense. Wasn't a huge fan of selecting two CBs, but we need depth as only Woolen and Spoon are contracted past this year. Didn't take it so much as one could take Woolen's job, more so needed depth. All in all I was very pleased. Thank you good sir for all your hard work!
In the eight years I’ve watched the Seahawks, I’ve never felt so confidently that we’re actually going in the right direction as far as truly competing for Super Bowls at some point
How Christian Jones fell to basically the 6th round is beyond me
Another reason to hate the Brenden Fiske pick is that Cooper DeJean was RIGHT there. Like the Eagles were relieved when the Rams picked Fiske
Me, a Seahawks fan: “Hooray!”
The Seahawks defense is kinda sneaky nasty now. A sick CB duo of Weatherspoon and Woolen. Two fantastic DTs in Williams and Murphy. Solid edge guys in Mafe, Nwosu, and maybe Hall if he takes a step.
I don’t love what they have at LB and S, but it’s solid enough with guys like Baker, Love, Jenkins, and Wallace.
The Cardinals draft was fine and they did grab some really good players but…. With 12 freaking picks and 7 of those being top 100, I really felt like they had an opportunity to have a historic amount of talent injected into that team. And I was just a little underwhelmed by what they did.
Yeah with all the available talent they could have become the best roster type team. But reached for ok players
I wish we took Christian Haynes. I was depressed for the whole day that a 1st-2nd round level guard fell to the 3rd round and we could have taken him. He fits our blocking scheme so well too. I had us taking him at 35 💀
You have to understand, drafting players is a lot more than what these "mock draft experts" have them at. They don't see things behind the scenes or know what their mentality is like. You'll see in 2 years who did what and why. These players the Cardinals picked up have 1 thing in common and they're dogs. They all put their head down and do what they're supposed. The rest can hopefully be coached. Only time will tell...
Also, the Cardinals fit the best receiver/best player in the draft. They also drafted the best running back in the draft. Robinson was the 2nd best DL in the draft. There's a reason Newton fell. Max Melton was the 3rd best corner in the draft. The Cardinals will be a playoff team this year and it will be all due to the young players
That's probably a Perfect Summary of it. Except no. If it's as bad as it looks, it's gonna affect them for years. Years. They simply didn't get anything they needed at several picks. They basically wasted those picks. & there's no excuse.
Massive let-down.
Dude I was refreshing your page the last few days to see when the next draft review was dropping. I’m an AZ fan so I’ve been very impatient 😅. Love the work you do, been a fan for years! 🤘🏽
Thanks for your patience!! ❤️
Today I was at work talking football with someone, and based on what he was saying we ended up realizing we both watched TFG. Your influence is growing, keep up the good work!
Haha wow that's crazy
49ers fans here. A little dumbfounded they didn't grab IOL Jackson Powers-Johnson with the 1st rounder. Could totally replace Feliciano at RG and eventually become their C in another 2 years for the next decade. (JPJ actually tested better in pass blocking than Creed Humphrey and Tyler Lindebaum did as prospects per PFF.) Seems like a missed opportunity to start re-tooling this OL. Also would have preferred CB Andru Phillips in Round 2 over Green. And then could've grabbed Troy Franklin with the 3rd rounder. I like that trio of JPJ/Phillips/Franklin over the trio we got for the same positions. Also intrigued by their UDFA QB Tanner Mordecai. We'll see how it all shakes out. Love your content!
Tanner Mordecai: imagine if you got Trey Lance again but this time as a UDFA. That's tanner mordecai
They didn’t know franklin would fall as far as he did. Plus I think there was a reason (medicals) JPJ fell as far as he did.
@@morgan7025 You're right about Franklin, hindsight is 20/20. I honestly in the moment, when they were picking at 31, thought they'd go Cooper Dejean (was hoping for JPJ), but even going with WR, was surprised they went Pearsall over Worthy, Mitchell, and McConkey. Pearsall's exciting so I hope this is like another Aiyuk and not another Dante Pettis.
Lynch and Shanahan do not feel the need to invest in oline, I mean when you're trying to beat Chris Jones you'd think they'd value it more but for the rest of the season they can make up for the lack of talent with playcalling
mustapha ran a 4.54 with a bad hamstring!! one of the most underrated players in the class
i wanted my seahawks to get him but ofc the 49ers take him smh 😂😭
Let's go! I liked our draft a lot so I'm glad to see you agree. Byron Murphy has got me so hyped!
Should’ve been a bengal
@@joeycack12you don’t like mims?
@@Praying_Mantis3 I think he’s a great prospect and the guy is a beast but only 8 games in college with injury history concerns me. Regardless I just think Byron Murphy is gonna be really good he’s kinda like geno atkins in some ways. Would’ve rather of had him
@@joeycack12 fair, I’m a Seahawks fan and I love the Byron Murphy pick, but I didn’t think the bengals did a bad job with mims.
The wait for the afc west is almost over 🎉🎉
Marcus, great analysis again. Like the strong takes on some of these drafts. Great that you take the teade value into account.
Love the look back previous draft grade videos would love to see a look back at some of older draft grades
Everything you do on this channel is the best Marcus not just the deep dives (though they are fantastic)
I appreciate the love for the Seahawks! I root for basically each and every franchise in the NFL. But seeing the Seahawks eventually adressing their needs on both lines with really talented prospects is just nice!!!
😀
Great work. Nice stuff dude
Finally I get to see how the Cards did, thanks Marcus!
The Fiske hate is crazy dude balled out at FSU
He's an older prospect that wasn't elite. Even if you think he's good, he's going to have a really hard time returning the value that was used to acquire him because of how much they gave up to move up. It was a bad pick.
I don't hate on him yeah he is older but he gives the rams a solid DL player. As a Cards fan I'm hoping that our Oline can stop him because he can be a menace in the backfield.
Complete agree with this assement. I think Murphy going at 16 is going to get a lot of coaches and GMs fired who passed on him. He is the only defender in this draft with true game wrecking ability. He's also the best interior prospect we've seen in the last several years.
Did you see the Eagles behind the scenes video where Howie Roseman cheered when the rams took Fiske? Reminds me of the Vikings laughing at the Eagles for taking Jalen Raegor although it’s unlikely it’s going to be as big of of discrepancy between the two players.
Let’s go! Been excited for this one
Thanks for the analysis of the whole NFC West, i disagree about some grades for the Cardinals but this is a great video. Everyone forgets about the Hawks, Cards and Rams for the Niners.
I'm very interested to see how the niners secondary shakes out. Cant wait for the deep dives. Best series on UA-cam
Xavier Thomas kinda reminds me of Arden Key
jGood analysis and grading! You should have added at the end: Notable UDFA's. Seattle got TE Jack Westover who is very good and the Niners picked up Tanner Mordekai, who was underrated and should have been drafted.
Go hawks!! Thanks for all your hard work TFG
Lol, you are pretty spot on with this evaluation of Arizona’s draft, I actually think you were generous on the Robinson grade. I think that was more like a D he was a reach at the time they took him. It was criminal to trade back and take Milton over Kool-Aid, or Newton, who is still available and I have no idea what in the hell they were doing in round three besides Benson, I’ll be fair. I don’t know anything about Elijah Jones who we took in the third so I’ll give that a pass. but Adams and Ryman oh my God that was awful those two pics alone should lower this grade too like a CC minus range.at 35
You Da Man Marcus! 😎
One last thing that I would like to see from you, Marcus is your top 10 players at every position when they were coming out of college. We know Malik neighbors and MHJ are your top two wide receivers but where have Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase ranked behind them?
Continued: where did Sam Darnold, Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, etc. rank among this years guys.
Just a screenshot of your draft grade profile and a list at the end to show name, year, if they panned out or if you were wrong about them would be cool to see. Thanks!
@@jevinwallace1878 I've been wanting someone to do this for years, but I don't see it being worth the effort for any content creator. 1) What would it show or prove? 2) Not everyone's college ranking transfers to the NFL.
Making something like this that shows some positions have a better or worse ratio in the NFL might be interesting.
But also, these content-creators are no less prone to repeating empty memes than the general public. Even NFL coaches & GMs fall for them. For instance, I can show you video footage of Fields doing things in the NFL I've yet to see Caleb do in college.
But I can't find the reverse. Caleb's ability to scramble, to fling the ball 50+ air yards & hit receivers in stride, on the run, at weird arm angles are all things Fields has done in the NFL. He even made the Bears the #1 offense 3 weeks straight _BEFORE_ they acquired D.J. Moore so without an o-line _or_ a receiving corps.
& yet each one of these analysts think he's a bust & Caleb will be the Second Coming. Because of analysis? Nope, because they mindlessly accept things they hear. The Bears lost those 3 games. He made them #1 in a league with Mahomes, Allen, Lamar Jackson & another one proposed to be better than himself who had the best receiving _trio_ in the league & you know what meme they repeated?
"He can't win."
First time I heard any of these guys blame a QB for a team's defensive woes & they *all* repeated it.
For the last few years the deep dives have begun on Thursday ? Does anyone know when the deep dives are starting this summer ? Any idea
Deep dives szn soon, lets gooooooo
I look forward to your future Braden Fiske apology video.
The thing about that pick, even if he's good, it's still going to be so hard to actually return the value they used to get him because of the trade up.
shoutout michael jerrell! gmacs finest i swim in the same conference as findlay
Very excited for the deep dive series. But make sure you take a vacation lmao. Anna needs you lol
Edit also I believe the cards will be playing adams at guard. Where his tape is much better. So I’m not sure if that’ll affect your grade there
Broke that down!
Great job Marcus! Love the content!!
Loved that you saved the AFC Best for last! Can’t wait
When do 2024 deep dives start????? Looking forward to it!!!!!!
Made sense to take Pearsall for the 49ers. Didn’t make sense that he should go at the end of the first. IMO
Ive watched a handful of draft grade videos and most of them ding the seahawks for not drafting Fautanu to drop the draft grade to a B or B-. It honestly feels like thats as far as anyone from the big networks bothered to analyze. I think being able to get Murphy and Haynes in the 3rd is way way better than getting Fautanu and whatever DT in the 3rd. I know you're doing every team but Im grateful for the sincereseahawks coverage.
Second year in a row you greatly underrate the rams draft
Second year in a row they prove you wrong 😤
Trading the future second was pretty awful though..
He basically said the draft was good, minus that pick?
@@TheMattTrakker and made it like the 29th ranked draft?
I feel that the rans are building a good team. I wonder how they will do after Stafford retires.
I'm a Cards fan and thought the Rams drafted really well, the only pick I didn't like for them was Blake and its only because he has a lot of mileage for a rookie. The rams are the unfortunate team that ends up getting a rb for 3 or 4 years and moves off of them because they have to much mileage and end up getting injured around year 2 to 3.
@@Sandviper9322 I agree Blake has a lot of mileage but he definitely won't be used as a bellcow. Will be helping make sure we don't run kyren into the ground
Do you think there's something to teams who are at the top of the nfl team report cards and getting udfa players that have higher chances to be productive players?
Dope
I am so looking forward to the deep dives! This is cool, but deep dives are deep dives 😅
Hearing the words “deep dive series” = *insert the goosebumps meme here* I CANT WAIT
"His career had a beaten path" is definitely confusing some idioms. The beaten path is the stable, well travelled, road; not a difficult one to travel.
I think fiske is a monster, but I agree taken a bit early and shouldn’t of traded up I do think he’s slightly higher then you have him I got late 2nd round to 3 round. I think he could end up being versatile and maybe potentially move positions in the future
Look at Seattle nice
Btw the OL from Kansas state for the rams is KT Leveston not Livingston
Even as a 9ers fan I can't wait for you to have to for the Fiske slander
The random boom at 28:45 is so funny 😭😭😭
Woops lol
Just adding to the pile of Seahawks comments on the vid:
Thanks for giving John and Mike some praise, saw that the media has us ranked an average of like 22 overall for draft grades which seemed CRAZY. Glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks so. Still think Pit had the best draft, but I did quite like ours
SEAHAWKS! Marcus knows what's up, Go Hawks!
Super excited about the Seahawks class here. I think if Macdonald is the coach we want him to be him, then guys like Knight and Prichett should be studs
Concerning the Cardinals' draft: If you have the 4th, the 27th, the 43rd, the 66th, the 71st, the 82nd, the 91st and the 100th overall picks in a stacked, very good draft class, I expect you to do much better! That's three Top 50 picks! Respectively eight Top 100 picks!!! I would have loved to see the Cardinals emerge from this draft as an altered, strong franchise. At least they did not miss out on Marvin Harrison Junior! Hopefully, some of the 2nd and third round draft picks will hit!!! Regards!
Yep, I agree with you!
Cardinals got an absolute haul, that offense will be top 5 this year, that scheme w/ kyler and now MHJ, wow..
I guess they could be top 5, since the defense will be so bad that they'll need to score 70, but other than that, no chance.
I think Hufanga and Mustapha can coexist, it’s not like Tashaun Gipson has been some super speedy ball skills type of guy, he’s also kind of a strong safety
Correct me if I’m wrong, weren’t Puni’s athletic test really good? No idea what his tape looked like so maybe it doesn’t translate
I’m doing anything possible to draft Trey Benson in dynasty, even if I have to reach on him at the end of the first/top of the second
Surprised you didn't mention jack westover as a UDFA steal for the hawks -- big playmaker with penix, crazy good hands. May not be the best athlete with the highest upside but going with Grubb who already knows how to use him is a big plus in my book
Babe shut up the GOAT just posted!
You know i had to be the first on here, LETS GO MARCUS‼️
46:42 I lived in Findlay (pronounced Fin-lee) ! Woo go Oilers
I was super annoyed when AZ picked Benson. Coming from a Seahawks fan, nice pick, Cards.
Y'all got a top 10 lineman in the draft in the third round and we got Isaiah Adams
Yessir
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As a 49ers fan, I grading all of our picks I had us at a C+.
49ers - C+
#31 Ricky Pearsall - C+
#64 Renardo Green - B-
#86 Dominick Puni - C+
#124 Malik Mustapha - B-
#129 Isaac Guerendo - B-
#135 Jacob Cowing - C-
#215 Jarrett Kingston - n/a
#251 Tatum Bethune - n/a
Don’t dislike Pearsall but with the other players on the board and the needs on our team it was truly baffling, pretty happy with it besides that but that first pick was tough to swallow
For the 1st it's tough. Pearsall could be adam thielen. They have very similar athletic profiles and play style and he was really good in his prime. If pearsall can be that guy then it's a great pick
Seahawks number 1. Lets go
Idk if you saw the seahawks also invited Taulia Tagovailoa to their rookie minicamp
28:45 Random Explosion moment
Like. The. Video. Be a good chap
Rams already traded Skowronek away, looks like your prediction about Whittington’s role is correct
Seeing Braden Fiske as your least favorite pick in the entire draft is shocking. I loved Fiske
28:45 random boom
Isaac doesn’t need to be a wide zone guy his testing was insane
For my hawks, I was pounding the table for Cade Stover over AJ Barnes, and hoping we could trade next year's 3rd or 4th to move up 10 spots for Payton Wilson and maybe recoup a 5th. Tell me that lineup wouldn't put you over the moon;
Byron Murphy
Christian Haynes
Payton Wilson
Cade Stover
Nehemiah Pritchet
for our 1st 4 rounds.
I think this next season for the Seahawks, we are going to see just how stuck Pete was in his thinking.
Got so caught up in the drizzy kdot drama i forgot football existed for a minute. Thanks for the reminder 😤😤. Whose side are we btw??
I agree Darius will likely never be the “superstar” but I don’t think you need that to return 1st round value or whatever you said. I think he’ll be the anchor for this defense moving inside and out when needed. Especially adding someone really good outside I think that group will be absolutely ridiculous. I thought before the draft he was a perfect fit for our team and what we need and was kind of hoping he’d be the pick. And to note he got his masters and is probably the most dedicated player I’ve ever seen. Just listen to his post draft interview man. And Isaiah Adams definitely listed as guard and he could start day 1 at left guard.
I’m not a rams fan but I feel they should have gotten at least a B or B+.
Can’t wait to revisit your Dax Hill over Kyle Hamilton take (I’m a Ravens fan 😁)
I mean they don't even really play the same position 🤷♂️
Everybody hates on magikarp until he evolves into gyrados
Every single year i get disappointed because the seattle seachickens take a top 20-50 player for me in the 3-5th round. -a cardinals fan that wish we had christian haynes instead of isaiah adams and Tariq Woolen over Keontay Ingram
I think calling the Fiske trade the worst move of the draft is silly. If they stayed put the only iDL they'd have to choose would have been Michael Hall. They got their guy at a major spot of need and still have a first next year so they could trade down and get the second back next year
Then they wouldn't have a 1st. Your comment is just nonsensical cope.
They gave up way too much to move up.
@@TheMattTrakker Trading down and still staying in the first exists pal
😢 no hayden hatten talk as the seahawks sleeper 😔 just gotta prove how good he will be
I just wonder how is he gonna have the breathing space to thrive on this offense? We have DK, Lockett, JSN, and Bobo that are gonna be eating up most targets.
Before I hit play I’m going to express that TFG’s fiske criticism is overblown
Maybe I’m crazy for this thinking but is it possible rams see what you see and that’s Braeden is a better linebacker that’s why they took him that high
Seahawks OWN the NFC West baby!! Let’s go 😎 Haters can cry in the comments down below ⬇️🫵😂⬇️
Hi
But should the Seahawks have taken Dallas Turner instead?? Crazy that he fell to them and they still passed. Isn’t EDGE more important than IDL?
You said multiple times that Puni is a terrible athlete but he had absolutely ELITE agility testing at the combine. Did that just not show up on tape?
Not in slightest..
really wish we got Coolaid or Cooper in the 2nd round, but obviously Monti liked Max melton more. not going to argue with the GM hired to fix the roster but def some questionable picks.
Where is Loisville😄
Rams criticism on Fiske is fair. but i'm hoping you're wrong
Marcus instead of looking at the 2022 draft you should look back at 2019 or 2020. I feel like 2022 is to short of a time to know how good or bad a draft class is.
I've done those already!
Regarding Fiske… who cares about the last pick of next’s year 2nd round
If he's a great player, then who cares. but if he ends up a rotational player, then suddenly, you have a problem in next year's draft.
I totally agree on the rams dumbness. Why do teams trade away picks to move up a few spots...that is so dumb. Its like they dont even trust their ability to stick where they are and take a good player like the eagles do.
Is this sarcasm?
SEAHAWKS 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅