These guys were awesome. I met one of them once at an air show many years ago. He was the nicest and most humble man you'd ever want to meet. All the adversity these guys overcame only makes them and their story that much better. The Red Tails will forever have my undying respect.
Lee Archer was my first boss in the USAF. He retiredt Col when he should have been a General. He would not compromise his integrity. He refused to play the game. He was, for me and a group of young officers, the greatest influence on our life. He was one of the finest men I have ever known.
I was fortunate enough to meet several Tuskegee Airmen about 5 years ago, among them were: LTC James Warren and LTC Hiram Mann. LTC Warren was a B-25 navigator and LTC Mann was a P-51 pilot...both were incredible pilots and outstanding human beings!! I feel very fortunate to have meet men of their caliber and bravery! God bless The Tuskegee Airmen!!
The German pilots were brave despite their numerical inferiority, who defended the German civilian population from the terrorist bombs with the courage of desperation.
I met them while deployed to Kuwait, our expeditionary unit was named after them. It was such an honor to talk to them at length! I still have the photos.
I really miss these kind of shows in the history channel, now all they have is that talk about aliens this and aliens that. I would love to see a show like dogfights and main call again.
@@excaliburgaming8857 So did I! This show, Mail Call (with the late R Lee Ermey) were my two favorite shows. I remember one Mail Call episode, Ermey said that a viewer had written, and said he'd 'drop and give me 20' if Ermey answered the email. And, Ermey dropped right into Gunny Sgt. Hartman mode, shouting, "Okay, _drop and give me 50, _*_PUKE!_* Because, the _more you hate me, the more you will LEARN!"_
Agreed. Tank battles, ship engagements and dogfights. If you like history in a general sense and archeology specifically, check out "Time Team and Digging up Britain", both British.
all that History and Patriotic RAH RAH stuff had to go...... Especially with the new Resident Buydin or should I say BOUGHT and SOLD biden... can't have your kids growing up lovin amurica...no no this country is fuullllllll of white supreeemists and things like that
The German pilots were brave despite their numerical inferiority, who defended the German civilian population from the terrorist bombs with the courage of desperation
@@petergriffin8796 lmao what is wrong with you? Looks like a snowflake has gotten triggered. Shut up. Pilots of both sides were brave, bet you would have shat your pants if you were them.
Escorting was done on a rotational basis. Not by request. Where did you get this misinformation that B-17 crews requested them. What proof do you have of that? Did you get that idea from a Hollywood movie? This is from the TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the national chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen. sometimes a group would be assigned penetration escort, sometimes withdrawal escort, sometimes escort over the target, and sometimes a combination of them. The daily mission reports show that all the groups were flying the same kinds of missions, for the most part, and do not indicate that only one was escorting effectively. On many days, more than one fighter group was escorting many bomber groups heading for the same target. Because the assignments were made on a rotational basis by headquarters, apparently without discrimination, the idea that bombardment crews could request one fighter group over another for escort duty, and get it, is not likely. All of the bombardment groups were stationed at bases miles away from the 332d Fighter Group at Ramitelli Air Field in Italy, and their personnel had little or no interaction with the other groups. personnel of the fighter groups that escorted them. Most of them did not have the option of choosing one group over another. the idea that bombardment crews could request one fighter group over another for escort duty, and get it, is not likely.
@@nedstewart1 they were requested stop the bs. I have a close friend who's father was on one of those bombers, and his family still works in all parts of aviation to this day! He said they and many others DID request the Tuskegee Airmen because the didn't go glory seeking for kills! And they had to deal with not getting credit for many accomplishments especially back then...just like you are doing! More than one account of bomber pilots requested them. These men had to deal with being treated worse than the "enemies" they were told to kill, by a country that they serve. Do you think you could've dealt with that...as you say probably not!
@@darkknight3769 Funny, Tuskegee Airmen Inc the main chapter for the Tuskegee Airmen disagrees with you. The fact you posted "DID request the Tuskegee Airmen because the didn't go glory seeking for kills! " shows you get your facts from Hollywood Movies such as Red Tails and the Movie Tuskegee Airmen which was filmed in 1995 before Tuskegee Airmen INC checked the records and found out the Tuskegee Airmen lost bombers to German fighters and other false information. This is from TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the Tuskegee airmen. The Eighth Air Force in England practiced the policy of staying with the bombers at least until early January 1944, when Lieutenant General Jimmy Doolittle succeeded Major General Ira Eaker as its commander. He ordered his Eighth Fighter Command leader, Major General William E. Kepner, to take down a sign saying the first duty of the fighter pilots was to bring back the bombers safely, and replace it with another sign saying that the first duty of the fighter pilots was to shoot down enemy airplanes. Doolittle authorized his fighter escorts to leave the bombers and go after the enemy fighters. Doolittle authorized his fighter escorts to leave the bombers and go after the enemy fighters. To leave bomber formation for glory was a Court Marshal offense which cause you to end up in prison. Quit getting your facts from Hollywood movies and the History channel. IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN GOOGLE: " MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN" Once again fighter pilots in the real world did not leave bomber formation for glory. I suggest you google MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN FOR THE TRUTH. Doolittle authorized his fighter escorts to leave the bombers and go after the enemy fighters. You could not destroy the German Air Force staying with the bombers. once again GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN if you are interested in the truth!..
I'd like to make an apology. To absolutely no one. Given the equipment they were stuck with in the beginning, those men took sub par equipment into battle with guts and tenacity and did things other pilots couldn't pull off in the same equipment. Those guys did the most with the least. I stand by my statement.
To me, WWII fighter pilots have always felt like the successors to medieval knights charging with lances. I'm not sure there's anything quite comparable in warfare today.
I feel like modern fighters have it a bit tougher than fighters in WWII did. Sure fighters today have much sophisticated equipment to help them, but anti-air defences can fire on them from MUCH farther away and are much more accurate. The CIWS can lock on to aircraft up to roughly 9 kilometres away and some surface-to-air missiles can lock on up to 100 kilometres away.
This story was fantastic Those men were American greatness, they went through three times the boot camp and insults and hatred along the way and became American treasure! I wish I could hug the great man telling the story.
Was fortunate to have taken care of General Davis, former commander of the Tuskegee Airmen in 1999 on the VIP ward at Malcom Grow Medical Center, while serving as a nurse corp officer in the Air Force. Had Alzheimer's, was still a very cool experience, wonder family as well.
Great pilots but less than 1% of the fighter pilots (66) who went on bomber missions. Some bomber missions had as many as 1500 bombers and the 66 Tuskegee Airmen did a good job in bomber protection. But being ordered to leave bomber protection and destroy the German Air Force made D-Day possible.
The German pilots were brave despite their numerical inferiority, who defended the German civilian population from the terrorist bombs with the courage of desperation
STAYING WITH THE BOMBERS COULD NOT DESTROY THE GERMAN AIR FORCE. ABANDONING BOMBER PROTECTION AND SEEKING OUT AND DESTROYING THE GERMAN AIR FORCE WAS THE PROPER TACTIC AND MADE D-DAY POSSIBLE. SHAME ON THE MOVIE RED TALES SHOWING THE WHITE PILOTS AS IF THEY LEFT BOMBER PROTECTION FOR GLORY. ONCE AGAIN...SUCH A LIE.
@@nedstewart1It's not a lie. It's ALL true. And WTF are you talking about? Staying WITH the bombers was the proper tactic. It helped cut off the Germans' fuel and other supply. That doesn't make any sense what you said. A hit dog will holla. Clearly the truth hurts.
One of my greatest honors in life was meeting a handful of these Brave Pilots at Lockheed Martin, Sunnyvale in the late 90s. All are true American Heroes.
Simply INCREDIBLE! The P-51 Mustang is one of my all time favorite fighter planes but the Tuskegee Airmen are some of the finest fighter pilots we have ever produced! Thank you for this video and so glad more and more people are learning about them. Together, they made a legendary combination!
1029racers Compilations I got to meet Tuskegee Airman Lt Col Bob Friend at the Planes Of Fame Air Museum in Chino, California a couple of times. As an Orange County local, I too have visited the Nixon Library many times, both before and after the recent renovations.
Tuskegee Airmen were great Americans and pilots...but had no aces. GOOGLE: misconceptions about the Tuskegee Airmen and go to page 13. THE MISCONCEPTION OF THE DEPRIVED ACE
@@nedstewart1 not even lee Andrew archer jr. ? To google a misconception is like a search to take away credit from there hard work witch I'm sure consistently happened in that era.
@@hwesh6307 All respects to the Tuskegee Airmen. Great Americans & pilots. However he was not an ACE. Below is 2 videos about Archer below. Archer visits Weeks and when he leaves Weeks removes a swastika from his plane leaving 4 swastikas. youtube: Tuskegee Airmen Lee Archer meets Kermit Weeks ... - UA-cam youtube below P-51C - First Test Flights - w/ Lee Archer - Flash ... - UA-cam
@@nedstewart1 okay I see what you are saying, some reports mentioned it was a shared kill with another pilot..but hey all those men did an outstanding job that's all that matters at the end of the day.
They were willing to die for their country and yet were treated terribly. you are correct there. And they were great pilots. Many more might have become ACE had they not stayed with the bombers.
Man .......... that gives me the chills!!!!! Archer was amazing!!!!! I’ve watched countless air encounters but these Tuskegee airmen were not of this earth! They flew with TENACITY! Driven! They were proving their metal. And did that to the tee! I love these men. ....... hero’s.
Explain why then they were dead last in kills as p-51 pilots in the 15th. Army Air Corp. Great bomber protection record however. Average pilots when their records are studied. But great Americans who were ready to die for their country. True heroes.
Richard Pembroke you're absolutely right. What is astounding is that there is a black radio host in the US who actually grew up under Jim Crow laws and claims racism not only existed but never existed!
@@rastusdarklord4325 ohh, maybe he's saying that it existed, yet wasn't unanimous, that some whites didn't share the same sense of bigotry as others. That's the only sensible explanation. Indeed, there would have been no Tuskeegee Air Corps without Eleanor Roosevelt, and others, who saw the need for blacks to be represented in that capacity. Twas a time of great racial turmoil, indeed.
Men fought as lions, gob bless them and their hearts. I got nothing but respect and love for their actions. May we all have a chance to stand as tall as y’all
I love the Dog Fights series. This is reality TV at its very best. The Red Tails, Flying Tigers and all of the American fighter pilots past and present have my admiration 🙏.
Years ago I interviewed Gen. Davis on the phone. Not for any publication but to just pick his brain. I read his book and found he didn't live that far from me. I looked him up in the phone book and he was listed. This was before the internet, probably during the Compuserve and Commodore 64 days. Any way I called the number and he was the one who actually picked up. I wasn't really expecting to get through. But I just started asking him questions after I told him I read his book. The man was gracious as he answered more than I was asking. I was just mostly listening because he didn't just give me one liner answers but explained and went into details. I must have spent about 15min on the phone and began to feel guilty taking up his time out of the blue. He didn't ask me who I was or who I was representing he was just willing to talk freely to a stranger. I thought that was amazing. All I can say is these guys back then had class.
Weird thing is there’s a playlist of these episodes and when I look at the comments people are like “American propaganda” and they’re hating on these episodes but here I don’t see any of that gotta love it
Richard Bong shot down 40. I can't even imagine shooting down one enemy fighter. Pretty impressive stuff. Those were the days....before missiles and radar.
I had a history teacher in high school that did. Discussed all the aircraft, the advancement in aviation and those who flew them. If you built the models, you earned extra credit
My grandpa flew P-38s in the pacific. He swore it was the best plane for that theater, blasting Mitsubishis and diving away when outnumbered. He fought zero's and swore the P-38 could turn slightly better on account of its superior horsepower. Life got you down? Curl up with a good book and escape the real world for a bit. And maybe learn something new. When times were toughest I escaped into literature and its the best decision I ever made. These are my favorite books, all available on Amazon: - Lightstrike by John Zeleznik - Infinite Worlds by Vincent DiFate - Beyond the Horizon by John Harris - Great Fighter Jets of the Galaxy 1 by Tim Gibson
What I admire most about the history of the Tuskeegee Airmen is how hard the military tried to get the pilots to wash out in training. Because they didn't think the black cadets were "good enough", they held them to the highest standards of conduct and skill thinking none of them could cut it in training. Because of that, the cadets that made it through training were some of the most skilled and talented in the entire Air Force, regardless of color. Dangerous jobs like these don't recognize color, they recognize the skill to do the job.
I'm glad this presentation showed the correct version of the P-51 (similar looking to the P-40), but it was just as fast as the bubble canopy with less visibility. This model never seems to credit accolades of the bubble canopy, but it's my favorite.
@@BullGator-kd6ge My Uncle Cecil, Cap. Cecil E Manning, flew a P51B with the Malcolm Hood. He was downed somewhere over France in 1944. He was captured and sent to a German POW Camp. I built a model of the P51B back in about 1966 and some of my friends didn't believe it was a P51 because it didn't have the bubble canopy. Most people only know of the D and later aircraft.
“They were suckers”. Hahah. Love it! They fought for the country, to stay alive and I would assume their race. With something to prove. They earned it. Respect!✊🏾✊🇺🇸
They never Fought hard as the RAF , Imagine Fighting the Luftwaffe during 1940-41 , When the Luftwaffe was at its peak , Lets imagine if He wouldve said the same back then lol
I've watched this years ago and miss this show. Dogfights was my favorite show on the history channel. I am half black and always looked up to the Tuskegee airmen. Those fighters in the P-51s but also those in the P-47s. The P-47d is one of my favorite WW2 planes behind the F6F Hellcat.
Black lives matter,I'm white,my heart is full of pride for these awesome black fighter pilots!We are equal and I'm sick and tired of American people who are black being treated poorly.Anyone who reads this please look into your heart.
Great video on the Redtails. Truly fearless and motivated fighter pilots. They performed above and beyond many other fighter groups. Especially during their escort missions of heavy bombers. 💪🙏🏻✨
General Jimmy Doolittle ordered escorting the bombers to cease. You could not destroy the German Air Force staying with the bombers and D-DAY could not have been successful.
It's amazing how many people don't know about this squatter of Ace Pilots they were specially picked by the bombers that were going on farming rounds because the bombers were coming back on where before they weren't coming home. We owe these men these Pilots the floozies missions a great deal of gratitude thank you for their service they saved a lot of lives they were Ace Pilots for sure.
For those of you who are saying the red tails werent requested by bomber groups watch the documentary double victory. Some of the pilots of the red tails said that their commander named his plane by request. He named it by request because bomber groups were requesting their escort. They were requested because they did not abandon the bombers
TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC...the main chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen dis agrees with you. GOOGLE IT. First off they were dead last in kills as P-51 fighter pilots in the 15th. Army Air Corp. They were less than 1% of the fighter pilots and it would be impossible to know who they were because there were thousands of bombers in the 8th. 9th. 12th. & 15th. Army Air Corp. They had 66 fighters in their squadron and thousands of bombers went together on bombing missions. A squadron of 66 fighter planes could do very little in protecting the bombers. GOOGLE: 9 myths about the Tuskegee Airmen. to find out what the truth is. 9 myths can be found on TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC...THE MAIN CHAPTER OF THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN.
@J D THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the TUSKEGEE AIRMEN IS 100% of my source. What's your source? If you disagree with any thing I post you should take it to TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the TUSKEGEE AIRMEN. So I challenge you to point out any wrong information that is posted & I will send that information to TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen my self because it is them from whom I get my information.100% accurate information. Google: Misconceptions about The Tuskegee Airmen... Misconceptions can be found also on TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen.
Over time all stories get embellished. They were limited by their encounters with German planes until they did escort missions with the bombers. Most of the time they were given patrols area that was already cleared by white squadrons. This was done on purposes because the military wanted the Tuskegee experiment to fail. They also had to fly used beat-up hand me down planes from the white squadrons once the white squadrons received new planes. The 100ish kills they were able to get was good considering all the disadvantages they had to overcome.
This is.. some absolutely insane level of fighting. No flat ground to rest or hide on, no cover except for the armor of the plane, the clouds, and piloting maneuvers.. several different angles to target your enemy which land based fighting doesn't offer.. and brawn means almost nothing in this situation. Just an innate (had to look up "innate" before I committed to using it, brain gives me words that I don't remember definitions to) understanding of how geometry and physics work like the back your hand. Also one of the most brutal ways to go out, if the bullets or cannons hit the cockpit or.. if you got trapped inside as the plane burst in flames. Or just death by crashing impact. I am so utterly mesmerized by learning these clashes and the experiences that these human beings endured, up there! An absolutely insane rush that no car race could ever give.
I will always love these guys. Thank you so much for the excellent work you did. You've been a motive to be proud to be a military aviator and an American.
Actually they were no better or worst than your average fighter group. The 332nd. did have 4 fighter squadrons which totaled 64 fighters compared to 3 fighter squadrons for the rest of the 15th. Army Air Corp. totaling 48 fighters giving the Tuskegee Airmen a 16 fighter plane advantage. The T.A. had an excellent bomber protection record but was dead last in kills for P-51 fighters in the 15th. Army Air Corp. : COMPARISON OF FIFTEENTH AIR FORCE P-51 FIGHTER GROUPS Fighter Group Predominant race Victories per aircraft lost in combat 31st White 2.49 52nd White 2.08 325th White 2.22 332nd Black 0.66 Tuskegee Airmen.
I met some of the Tuskegee airmen at Owens Field in Columbia South Carolina. About 20 years ago. I felt so truly honored just to meet those men knowing what they did and the things they had to go through just to serve their country. I always hold them in heart at a place of honor. God, bless you all.
Interesting fact: you had only 30 seconds of fire time in a P-51, so for anyone to be able to shoot down 1 or 2 planes is amazing, but to get 5 in one run is absolutely incredible. Mad respect for this man, proving the stereotypes wrong.
One of the things the mustang pilots could do to turn inside of an BF 109 was going into a tight turn they could put in about 15° of flaps which would make the mustang turn tighter but the g-forces were much higher. Had to be in good shape to do this stuff
I'm gonna leave your question alone as my answer would cause issues I'm not prepared to squabble about. Those men earned their respect and should be honored.
My education on the Tuskegee Airmen is limited to the movies like Red Tails and TV documentaries. They were held to a higher standard and flew missions with dated aircraft in near impossible odds.
@@roosterj2599 Please elaborate on your statement "They were held to a higher standard and flew missions with dated aircraft in near impossible odds." What exactly higher standard were they held to and what impossible odds?
You are most likely trying to lead me into a debate that I won't win. Look it up for yourself. The government treated these men like dirt. Look up the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. My dad was in the USAF and so was my brother. Nobody did any experiments on them. The Tuskegee Airmen had hard earned respect eventually and were among the best pilots in the European theater. They were not treated as equals. Throughout history you can see all black regiments being treated with prejudice and it continued on through WW2. My knowledge is based on the movies and several youtube videos. I'm not an expert.
These guys were awesome. I met one of them once at an air show many years ago. He was the nicest and most humble man you'd ever want to meet. All the adversity these guys overcame only makes them and their story that much better. The Red Tails will forever have my undying respect.
A number of Tuskegee Airmen visited Balad AB Iraq in 2005. For us it was a chance to meet history. It truly was an honor to meet Col Archer.
You're a very fortunate man.History in living form.
Cool beyond cool!
That would be awesome to experience
Salute. Bravery personified.
Lee Archer was my first boss in the USAF. He retiredt Col when he should have been a General. He would not compromise his integrity. He refused to play the game. He was, for me and a group of young officers, the greatest influence on our life. He was one of the finest men I have ever known.
Greatness🇺🇸
Great uncompromise
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I was fortunate enough to meet several Tuskegee Airmen about 5 years ago, among them were: LTC James Warren and LTC Hiram Mann. LTC Warren was a B-25 navigator and LTC Mann was a P-51 pilot...both were incredible pilots and outstanding human beings!! I feel very fortunate to have meet men of their caliber and bravery! God bless The Tuskegee Airmen!!
Same, their history taught me that nothing is impossible!
I met one in middle school. My cousins special ed teacher was related to him.
I am envious.
The German pilots were brave despite their numerical inferiority, who defended the German civilian population from the terrorist bombs with the courage of desperation.
I met them while deployed to Kuwait, our expeditionary unit was named after them. It was such an honor to talk to them at length! I still have the photos.
When I was a kid I would sit on my grandpas lap and watch all of the episodes of Dogfights. Thank you grandpa for everything I know. I miss you.
Know that you are not alone in missing your Grands❤😢😞
I really miss these kind of shows in the history channel, now all they have is that talk about aliens this and aliens that. I would love to see a show like dogfights and main call again.
They should bring it back, this was the only thing that would get my attention on the history channel.
@@mr.shades6355 or they should just change the name of the channel. It's sad man. I used to like history channel alot.
Mr. Shades p
couldn't agree more with you bro.
@@excaliburgaming8857 So did I! This show, Mail Call (with the late R Lee Ermey) were my two favorite shows. I remember one Mail Call episode, Ermey said that a viewer had written, and said he'd 'drop and give me 20' if Ermey answered the email. And, Ermey dropped right into Gunny Sgt. Hartman mode, shouting,
"Okay, _drop and give me 50, _*_PUKE!_* Because, the _more you hate me, the more you will LEARN!"_
I'm so glad that there are records of the work of these men preserved for history.
I miss old history channel like Dogfights and Battle 360
Agreed. Tank battles, ship engagements and dogfights.
If you like history in a general sense and archeology specifically, check out "Time Team and Digging up Britain", both British.
Sabaton History is highly recommended
all that History and Patriotic RAH RAH stuff had to go...... Especially with the new Resident Buydin or should I say BOUGHT and SOLD biden... can't have your kids growing up lovin amurica...no no this country is fuullllllll of white supreeemists and things like that
Great Tank Battles and Patton 360 was very good too!
Patton 360 was my favorite
True American Heros, God Bless all those who answered the call Thank you🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The German pilots were brave despite their numerical inferiority, who defended the German civilian population from the terrorist bombs with the courage of desperation
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@@TheManifattura wehraboo copy and paste spotted
@@petergriffin8796 lmao what is wrong with you? Looks like a snowflake has gotten triggered. Shut up. Pilots of both sides were brave, bet you would have shat your pants if you were them.
@@TheManifattura gotta live everyone on UA-cam being half true and half right… What? I’m talking about you too.
These guys were fearless! And the B17 pilots would request them because they would never leave them unprotected.
"Thumbs up" this comment if your history lessons came from Hollywood producers. Sheep.
Escorting was done on a rotational basis. Not by request.
Where did you get this misinformation that B-17 crews requested them. What proof do you have of that? Did you get that idea from a Hollywood movie? This is from the TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the national chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen.
sometimes a group would be assigned penetration escort, sometimes withdrawal escort,
sometimes escort over the target, and sometimes a combination of them. The daily
mission reports show that all the groups were flying the same kinds of missions, for the
most part, and do not indicate that only one was escorting effectively. On many days,
more than one fighter group was escorting many bomber groups heading for the same
target. Because the assignments were made on a rotational basis by headquarters,
apparently without discrimination, the idea that bombardment crews could request one
fighter group over another for escort duty, and get it, is not likely. All of the
bombardment groups were stationed at bases miles away from the 332d Fighter Group at
Ramitelli Air Field in Italy, and their personnel had little or no interaction with the
other groups.
personnel of the fighter groups that escorted them. Most of them did not have the option
of choosing one group over another.
the idea that bombardment crews could request one
fighter group over another for escort duty, and get it, is not likely.
Bud Tommy probably saw it on a documentary. Didnt know I was gonna get reamed out about it. Sorry!
@@nedstewart1 they were requested stop the bs. I have a close friend who's father was on one of those bombers, and his family still works in all parts of aviation to this day! He said they and many others DID request the Tuskegee Airmen because the didn't go glory seeking for kills! And they had to deal with not getting credit for many accomplishments especially back then...just like you are doing! More than one account of bomber pilots requested them. These men had to deal with being treated worse than the "enemies" they were told to kill, by a country that they serve. Do you think you could've dealt with that...as you say probably not!
@@darkknight3769 Funny, Tuskegee Airmen Inc the main chapter for the Tuskegee Airmen disagrees with you. The fact you posted "DID request the Tuskegee Airmen because the didn't go glory seeking for kills! " shows you get your facts from Hollywood Movies such as Red Tails and the Movie Tuskegee Airmen which was filmed in 1995 before Tuskegee Airmen INC checked the records and found out the Tuskegee Airmen lost bombers to German fighters and other false information.
This is from TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the Tuskegee airmen.
The Eighth Air Force in England practiced the policy of staying
with the bombers at least until early January 1944, when Lieutenant General Jimmy
Doolittle succeeded Major General Ira Eaker as its commander. He ordered his Eighth
Fighter Command leader, Major General William E. Kepner, to take down a sign saying
the first duty of the fighter pilots was to bring back the bombers safely, and replace it
with another sign saying that the first duty of the fighter pilots was to shoot down enemy
airplanes. Doolittle authorized his fighter escorts to leave the bombers and go after the
enemy fighters.
Doolittle authorized his fighter escorts to leave the bombers and go after the
enemy fighters.
To leave bomber formation for glory was a Court Marshal offense which cause you to end up in prison. Quit getting your facts from Hollywood movies and the History channel.
IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN
GOOGLE:
" MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN"
Once again fighter pilots in the real world did not leave bomber formation for glory.
I suggest you google MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN FOR THE TRUTH.
Doolittle authorized his fighter escorts to leave the bombers and go after the
enemy fighters.
You could not destroy the German Air Force staying with the bombers.
once again GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN
if you are interested in the truth!..
man I miss this series. glad to see it back
Yea it's back .
But NOT Where it Belongs .
On TV
The Red Tails are some of the finest pilots of any outfit to fly in our services second to absolutely no one. Thank you for your service.
I guess you saw the movie
@@TheWorld4all That's their nickname to
They were fine pilots, but I wouldn't make that claim
they were second to most. you know nothing about real history. They were in the bottom half of success rankings of squadrons
I'd like to make an apology. To absolutely no one. Given the equipment they were stuck with in the beginning, those men took sub par equipment into battle with guts and tenacity and did things other pilots couldn't pull off in the same equipment.
Those guys did the most with the least. I stand by my statement.
Amazing display of valor and strength
P-51 Mustang was a fantastic fighter plane for it's time but so were the Tuskegee Airmen Pilots!
they were mediocre, boy
@@johnmarker4262 yeah mr evaluator
@@typehyuga607 shove it, boy. they were in the bottom half of all squadrons. do some research for once in your life
@@johnmarker4262 B r u h
@@Railenisaplanenerd whats your problem
I love his honesty. "I forgot all about him." What a great man.
To me, WWII fighter pilots have always felt like the successors to medieval knights charging with lances. I'm not sure there's anything quite comparable in warfare today.
Spoiler alert: there isn't
I feel like modern fighters have it a bit tougher than fighters in WWII did. Sure fighters today have much sophisticated equipment to help them, but anti-air defences can fire on them from MUCH farther away and are much more accurate.
The CIWS can lock on to aircraft up to roughly 9 kilometres away and some surface-to-air missiles can lock on up to 100 kilometres away.
@@TheGreatThicc modern fighters the type of one shot one kill thing less ammo big guns or missiles
the true dogfighters where the pilots of WW1 with wood and canvas aicraft, no chuts, no oxygen mask or g suit, just a man and his warbird.
yea thats definitely true
This story was fantastic
Those men were American greatness, they went through three times the boot camp and insults and hatred along the way and became American treasure!
I wish I could hug the great man telling the story.
I may be white, but the tuskeegee airmen were more men than I'll ever be. Respects from Moscow for the brave men on the western front!
White...Black....We are all Human Beings and the sooner we realize that the better off we will all be!
When did race have anything to do with potential ?
Youre not white , Youre Russian
@@infamousarsonist949 yo most Russians are white
@ but not Supremacists , thats what I meant
Was fortunate to have taken care of General Davis, former commander of the Tuskegee Airmen in 1999 on the VIP ward at Malcom Grow Medical Center, while serving as a nurse corp officer in the Air Force. Had Alzheimer's, was still a very cool experience, wonder family as well.
Great! His father was General Benjamin O Davis Sr...1st Black General in the US Army🌟
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I have a model of Archer's P-51b. Man was it a sweet looking fighter plane!
Amazing men, nothing but mad respect to these legends.
Great pilots but less than 1% of the fighter pilots (66) who went on bomber missions. Some bomber missions had as many as 1500 bombers and the 66 Tuskegee Airmen did a good job in bomber protection. But being ordered to leave bomber protection and destroy the German Air Force made D-Day possible.
I don't know how many times I've seen this, but it still gives me goosebumps to hear the narrator say" The Tuskegee Airmen Now have an ACE!"
You caught that part.
SO PROUD TO SAY ONE OF MY COUSINS FROM DONORA, PA WAS A TUSKEGEE AIRMAN.
What's his name?
WOW! They were some Serious KICK BACKSIDE
Pilots!!
These are men of honor and great skill!
But still there country didn't respect them even if the have to die for there country but still there country see them as just n word
The German pilots were brave despite their numerical inferiority, who defended the German civilian population from the terrorist bombs with the courage of desperation
STAYING WITH THE BOMBERS COULD NOT DESTROY THE GERMAN AIR FORCE. ABANDONING BOMBER PROTECTION AND SEEKING OUT AND DESTROYING THE GERMAN AIR FORCE WAS THE PROPER TACTIC AND MADE D-DAY POSSIBLE. SHAME ON THE MOVIE RED TALES SHOWING THE WHITE PILOTS AS IF THEY LEFT BOMBER PROTECTION FOR GLORY. ONCE AGAIN...SUCH A LIE.
STAYING WITH THE BOMBERS COULD NOT DESTROY THE GERMAN AIR FORCE AND MAKE D-DAY POSSIBLE.
@@nedstewart1It's not a lie. It's ALL true. And WTF are you talking about? Staying WITH the bombers was the proper tactic. It helped cut off the Germans' fuel and other supply. That doesn't make any sense what you said. A hit dog will holla. Clearly the truth hurts.
One of my greatest honors in life was meeting a handful of these Brave Pilots at Lockheed Martin, Sunnyvale in the late 90s. All are true American Heroes.
Simply INCREDIBLE! The P-51 Mustang is one of my all time favorite fighter planes but the Tuskegee Airmen are some of the finest fighter pilots we have ever produced! Thank you for this video and so glad more and more people are learning about them. Together, they made a legendary combination!
I met one of the Tuskegee airman at the Nixon museum in Yoruba Linda a few years back
1029racers Compilations I got to meet Tuskegee Airman Lt Col Bob Friend at the Planes Of Fame Air Museum in Chino, California a couple of times. As an Orange County local, I too have visited the Nixon Library many times, both before and after the recent renovations.
I really appreciate the animation for prospective, good narration, and the ACE came back home to tell the story nothing but our Best.
Tuskegee Airmen were great Americans and pilots...but had no aces.
GOOGLE: misconceptions about the Tuskegee Airmen and go to page 13.
THE MISCONCEPTION OF THE DEPRIVED ACE
@@nedstewart1 not even lee Andrew archer jr. ? To google a misconception is like a search to take away credit from there hard work witch I'm sure consistently happened in that era.
@@hwesh6307 All respects to the Tuskegee Airmen. Great Americans & pilots.
However he was not an ACE. Below is 2 videos about Archer below. Archer visits Weeks and when he leaves Weeks removes a swastika from his plane leaving 4 swastikas.
youtube: Tuskegee Airmen Lee Archer meets Kermit Weeks ... - UA-cam
youtube below
P-51C - First Test Flights - w/ Lee Archer - Flash ... - UA-cam
@@nedstewart1 okay I see what you are saying, some reports mentioned it was a shared kill with another pilot..but hey all those men did an outstanding job that's all that matters at the end of the day.
They were willing to die for their country and yet were treated terribly. you are correct there. And they were great pilots. Many more might have become ACE had they not stayed with the bombers.
Respect to the best.
Man .......... that gives me the chills!!!!! Archer was amazing!!!!! I’ve watched countless air encounters but these Tuskegee airmen were not of this earth! They flew with TENACITY! Driven! They were proving their metal. And did that to the tee! I love these men. ....... hero’s.
Explain why then they were dead last in kills as p-51 pilots in the 15th. Army Air Corp. Great bomber protection record however. Average pilots when their records are studied. But great Americans who were ready to die for their country. True heroes.
@@nedstewart1 look when the were put into action. They didn’t have the airtime most pilots got.
Fantastic warriors especially with the rascism they also battled
Richard Pembroke you're absolutely right. What is astounding is that there is a black radio host in the US who actually grew up under Jim Crow laws and claims racism not only existed but never existed!
Michael Williams wow... is he brain damaged??
@@rastusdarklord4325 ohh, maybe he's saying that it existed, yet wasn't unanimous, that some whites didn't share the same sense of bigotry as others. That's the only sensible explanation. Indeed, there would have been no Tuskeegee Air Corps without Eleanor Roosevelt, and others, who saw the need for blacks to be represented in that capacity. Twas a time of great racial turmoil, indeed.
Man they had to fight 2 wars Germans and RACISM .JIM CROW!!!!
@@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv you're talking about Jesse Lee Peterson. I try to ignore his UA-cam channel. He's toxic.
Men fought as lions, gob bless them and their hearts. I got nothing but respect and love for their actions. May we all have a chance to stand as tall as y’all
Amen!!🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🥇
I love the Dog Fights series. This is reality TV at its very best. The Red Tails, Flying Tigers and all of the American fighter pilots past and present have my admiration 🙏.
It is a great achievement and testimony of how good of pilots they were. This is also a great piece of history. Thanks for sharing.
Imagine witnessing this in person. That’d be cool af.
God bless these brave young men.
Years ago I interviewed Gen. Davis on the phone. Not for any publication but to just pick his brain. I read his book and found he didn't live that far from me. I looked him up in the phone book and he was listed. This was before the internet, probably during the Compuserve and Commodore 64 days. Any way I called the number and he was the one who actually picked up. I wasn't really expecting to get through. But I just started asking him questions after I told him I read his book. The man was gracious as he answered more than I was asking. I was just mostly listening because he didn't just give me one liner answers but explained and went into details. I must have spent about 15min on the phone and began to feel guilty taking up his time out of the blue. He didn't ask me who I was or who I was representing he was just willing to talk freely to a stranger. I thought that was amazing. All I can say is these guys back then had class.
Weird thing is there’s a playlist of these episodes and when I look at the comments people are like “American propaganda” and they’re hating on these episodes but here I don’t see any of that gotta love it
It aint bragging if its true.
Haters gonna Hate....😠
I’d love to become as good as them in dogfighting. The amount is of skill is amazing
What a story, "Armed to the teeth"
“Low on Ammo…”
God bless these men the best of the best and will never be forgotten
Regardless of the best of the best all of those who served should never be forgotten
Nothing but respect
I love those Tuskegee stories and the guys who flew the Red Tails!
this was what made the channel good! it has to be brought back into the light!
Real men!!!! Thank God for them!!!
Amen to that!🙏🙏🙏
RIP Col. Lee Archer. He was passed away in January, 17, 2010.
Richard Bong shot down 40. I can't even imagine shooting down one enemy fighter. Pretty impressive stuff. Those were the days....before missiles and radar.
Britain already had radar back then.
Radar existed.
@@dt2419 I'm talking about the ability of airplanes to see other planes and fire missiles at them. That took a lot of the sport out of it.
@dhouse Nowadays it’s all done by computers and aerial duels are taking place 100km+ from their targets .
Erich Hartmann had 354 confirmed kills.
I love when he says “ they were suckas.” About the Germans. That’s pretty dope.
I love the disrespect he shows. They could back it up though; extremely talented and effective pilots.
I wish we were taught this in school when i was a kid
I had a history teacher in high school that did.
Discussed all the aircraft, the advancement in aviation and those who flew them.
If you built the models, you earned extra credit
Red Tails
My grandpa flew P-38s in the pacific. He swore it was the best plane for that theater, blasting Mitsubishis and diving away when outnumbered. He fought zero's and swore the P-38 could turn slightly better on account of its superior horsepower.
Life got you down? Curl up with a good book and escape the real world for a bit. And maybe learn something new. When times were toughest I escaped into literature and its the best decision I ever made.
These are my favorite books, all available on Amazon:
- Lightstrike by John Zeleznik
- Infinite Worlds by Vincent DiFate
- Beyond the Horizon by John Harris
- Great Fighter Jets of the Galaxy 1 by Tim Gibson
What I admire most about the history of the Tuskeegee Airmen is how hard the military tried to get the pilots to wash out in training. Because they didn't think the black cadets were "good enough", they held them to the highest standards of conduct and skill thinking none of them could cut it in training. Because of that, the cadets that made it through training were some of the most skilled and talented in the entire Air Force, regardless of color. Dangerous jobs like these don't recognize color, they recognize the skill to do the job.
Now whenever I try to do any turns in the P-51 in WT: *THERES A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING*
I have a model P-51 signed by the late Lt Col Herbert Carter!
Lt. Col Carter was head of admissions when I was a student at Tuskegee Institute 73-77.
I would love to have owned one.
It’s a honour to fly in one of these magnificent aircraft.
Heaven is for Heroes.
We had one of the last living air man go to my Church. A true hero as well as a Genuine Gentlemen.
You guys were unbelievable!!! 👊💥👍
I have the most respect for these gentlemen what they went through on the ground and in the air thank you for your service
I'm glad this presentation showed the correct version of the P-51 (similar looking to the P-40), but it was just as fast as the bubble canopy with less visibility. This model never seems to credit accolades of the bubble canopy, but it's my favorite.
I believe that cockpit was nicknamed the "Birdcage"
P-51A's, B's, and C's could always outrun the bubble canopied D models by at least 10 mph in a straight line
@@BullGator-kd6ge My Uncle Cecil, Cap. Cecil E Manning, flew a P51B with the Malcolm Hood.
He was downed somewhere over France in 1944. He was captured and sent to a German POW Camp.
I built a model of the P51B back in about 1966 and some of my friends didn't believe it was a P51 because it didn't have the bubble canopy.
Most people only know of the D and later aircraft.
@@BullGator-kd6ge It had a similar profile to the P-40 with much better engine and wings.
Yeah the D model became the poster P-51 same as the P-47. Razorbacks laid the groundwork and glory
Respect to these men. Thanks for your service.
“They were suckers”. Hahah. Love it!
They fought for the country, to stay alive and I would assume their race. With something to prove. They earned it. Respect!✊🏾✊🇺🇸
To swear an oath to the constitution, and to serve this great nation was nothing to do with race. At least for me it wasn't.
@@AlphaOneProductions right there with you on that Alpha One!
@@AlphaOneProductions Copy that.
They never Fought hard as the RAF , Imagine Fighting the Luftwaffe during 1940-41 , When the Luftwaffe was at its peak , Lets imagine if He wouldve said the same back then lol
That left me hanging. I wanted to know what he said to Pruitt. What a great description of a dogfight.
Reminds me of the one line from the Red Tails movie, “How do ya like that Mr. Hitler?!”
That movie was horrible
@@synthwavecat96 i think it was good, but you have your opinion, I have mines
@@Railenisaplanenerd well if you know why he called the movie horrible then you'd also have the same opinion
@@packosand3287 well yeah, The B17’s were like paper in water when hit, somehow a mustang is faster than a me262- Yeah the movie is bad
I've watched this years ago and miss this show. Dogfights was my favorite show on the history channel. I am half black and always looked up to the Tuskegee airmen. Those fighters in the P-51s but also those in the P-47s. The P-47d is one of my favorite WW2 planes behind the F6F Hellcat.
Outstanding 🇺🇸
This guy is so down to earth! Love it
Black lives matter,I'm white,my heart is full of pride for these awesome black fighter pilots!We are equal and I'm sick and tired of American people who are black being treated poorly.Anyone who reads this please look into your heart.
Fun fact: October 12 is my birthday. Awesome to know Lee Archer became an ace in 1944 on the same day I’d be born in 1996.
I want this narrator speaking at my funeral!
Ur a mind reader bro!
🤣
Went to Moton Field last year, home of the Tuskegee Airmen. Loved it and checked off a "must do"
Thanks for no negative comments!😃
They're all over the place.
@@thedarkberet2350 THE TRUTH is not "negative".
Dear History Channel, you have no idea how FIRED UP!!!! this video makes me. Thank you!
Great video on the Redtails. Truly fearless and motivated fighter pilots. They performed above and beyond many other fighter groups. Especially during their escort missions of heavy bombers. 💪🙏🏻✨
General Jimmy Doolittle ordered escorting the bombers to cease. You could not destroy the German Air Force staying with the bombers and D-DAY
could not have been successful.
Can't imagine what it would be like to watch this on the ground
With (6) x 50 Caliber machine guns in each Mustang fighter. You would get hit by stray 50 Caliber bullets!
I am a simple man, I see p51, I click
It's amazing how many people don't know about this squatter of Ace Pilots they were specially picked by the bombers that were going on farming rounds because the bombers were coming back on where before they weren't coming home. We owe these men these Pilots the floozies missions a great deal of gratitude thank you for their service they saved a lot of lives they were Ace Pilots for sure.
They were great pilots and great Americans...but none of them were ACES.
For those of you who are saying the red tails werent requested by bomber groups watch the documentary double victory. Some of the pilots of the red tails said that their commander named his plane by request. He named it by request because bomber groups were requesting their escort. They were requested because they did not abandon the bombers
TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC...the main chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen dis agrees with you. GOOGLE IT.
First off they were dead last in kills as P-51 fighter pilots in the 15th. Army Air Corp. They were less than 1% of the fighter pilots and it would be impossible to know who they were because there were thousands of bombers in the 8th. 9th. 12th. & 15th. Army Air Corp. They had 66 fighters in their squadron and thousands of bombers went together on bombing missions. A squadron of 66 fighter planes could do very little in protecting the bombers. GOOGLE: 9 myths about the Tuskegee Airmen. to find out what the truth is. 9 myths can be found on TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC...THE MAIN CHAPTER OF THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN.
@J D THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the TUSKEGEE
AIRMEN IS 100% of my source. What's your source? If you disagree with any thing I post you should take it to TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the TUSKEGEE AIRMEN. So I challenge you to point out any wrong information that is posted & I will send that information to TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen my self because it is them from whom I get my information.100% accurate information.
Google: Misconceptions about The Tuskegee Airmen... Misconceptions can be found also on TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC the main chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen.
Over time all stories get embellished.
They were limited by their encounters with German planes until they did escort missions with the bombers. Most of the time they were given patrols area that was already cleared by white squadrons. This was done on purposes because the military wanted the Tuskegee experiment to fail. They also had to fly used beat-up hand me down planes from the white squadrons once the white squadrons received new planes. The 100ish kills they were able to get was good considering all the disadvantages they had to overcome.
This is.. some absolutely insane level of fighting. No flat ground to rest or hide on, no cover except for the armor of the plane, the clouds, and piloting maneuvers.. several different angles to target your enemy which land based fighting doesn't offer.. and brawn means almost nothing in this situation. Just an innate (had to look up "innate" before I committed to using it, brain gives me words that I don't remember definitions to) understanding of how geometry and physics work like the back your hand. Also one of the most brutal ways to go out, if the bullets or cannons hit the cockpit or.. if you got trapped inside as the plane burst in flames. Or just death by crashing impact. I am so utterly mesmerized by learning these clashes and the experiences that these human beings endured, up there! An absolutely insane rush that no car race could ever give.
You got THAT Right
Brother!
They were given handmedown aircraft and treated as less than in their own country, but fought as brave knights
Thank you for your service- you are a great American 🇺🇸
It takes a special kind of fearlessness to go ball to the wall with nothing but machine guns.
Especially with g6 109s with 20mms
Hey....Thats what they were TRAINED TO DO!🇺🇸
Hats off boys. We appreciate it all!
Thank you for sharing this!!!
I missed these dogfights videos so much. It’s been many years maybe around 2010 was the last time.
I will always love these guys. Thank you so much for the excellent work you did. You've been a motive to be proud to be a military aviator and an American.
My salute to all of the RED TAILS of WW2. You all are HEROS!
These guys really put their guns on those huns...well within the realm of the greatest of the greatest generation.
Actually they were no better or worst than your average fighter group. The 332nd. did have 4 fighter squadrons which totaled 64 fighters compared to 3 fighter squadrons for the rest of the 15th. Army Air Corp. totaling 48 fighters giving the Tuskegee Airmen a 16 fighter plane advantage. The T.A. had an excellent bomber protection record but was dead last in kills for P-51 fighters in the 15th. Army Air Corp.
: COMPARISON OF FIFTEENTH AIR FORCE P-51 FIGHTER
GROUPS
Fighter Group Predominant race Victories per aircraft lost in combat
31st White 2.49
52nd White 2.08
325th White 2.22
332nd Black 0.66 Tuskegee Airmen.
@@nedstewart1 Your truth telling will get you being called a "RACIST".
@@BC2249 get help.
My friend Ted Mills was a Tuskegee Airman, and like most of them sported a pencil thin dapper mustache! True men, true heroes!
Too many great African American soldiers, pilots, Navys,.. who served in ww2 ,but you never hear or see their stories ,its so sad
It truely is!
@@michaelcuff5780 thats because their stories weren't very good compared to the real pilots. Not one redtail ever made ace.
@msimmons3877 quit crying, sissy. no red tail ever made ace, and they lost plenty of bombers
@@johnmarker4262except this one
And Indian in ww2, my grandfather served in ww2, boloch regiment from Indian subcontinent, now Pakistan
I LOVED watching this show back when it premiered. I think it aired Thursday nights and I always made sure to catch it.
When did this premiere? I’m trying to figure out how old it is. Thanks!
I'm glad they fought on OUR side.
I also am glad. But remember they were 1st. great Americans and statically average pilots who were willing to give their lives for their country.
I met some of the Tuskegee airmen at Owens Field in Columbia South Carolina. About 20 years ago. I felt so truly honored just to meet those men knowing what they did and the things they had to go through just to serve their country. I always hold them in heart at a place of honor. God, bless you all.
Interesting fact: you had only 30 seconds of fire time in a P-51, so for anyone to be able to shoot down 1 or 2 planes is amazing, but to get 5 in one run is absolutely incredible. Mad respect for this man, proving the stereotypes wrong.
He didn't get 5 in one run. What he got during this battle added to his previous total gave him 5 overall.
Some of The Best Stories, never get Told! Salute& Carry On!
A true dogfight hero👍👍
One of the things the mustang pilots could do to turn inside of an BF 109 was going into a tight turn they could put in about 15° of flaps which would make the mustang turn tighter but the g-forces were much higher. Had to be in good shape to do this stuff
A real ace 🐐
The machine gun noise is heavenly
Regardless of color, these heroes flew without fear and couldn't get enough. They flew missions most pilots didn't want. True heroes.
Name some of the missions most pilots didn't want, please
I'm gonna leave your question alone as my answer would cause issues I'm not prepared to squabble about. Those men earned their respect and should be honored.
My education on the Tuskegee Airmen is limited to the movies like Red Tails and TV documentaries. They were held to a higher standard and flew missions with dated aircraft in near impossible odds.
@@roosterj2599 Please elaborate on your statement "They were held to a higher standard and flew missions with dated aircraft in near impossible odds." What exactly higher standard were they held to and what impossible odds?
You are most likely trying to lead me into a debate that I won't win. Look it up for yourself. The government treated these men like dirt. Look up the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. My dad was in the USAF and so was my brother. Nobody did any experiments on them. The Tuskegee Airmen had hard earned respect eventually and were among the best pilots in the European theater. They were not treated as equals. Throughout history you can see all black regiments being treated with prejudice and it continued on through WW2. My knowledge is based on the movies and several youtube videos. I'm not an expert.