It sucks that the sims doesn’t do pack interactions anymore, I would love if you had discover university for the teacher career to become an active career
The fact you did a separate accessable bathroom even though we don't have wheelchairs fills me with such joy ♡ always thinking about the disabled and how to improve our lives. Thats why we love kayla!
The building entrance still has steps though. As a daughter of a wheelchair bound handicapped parent, it irks me in real life when places say they have accessibility but then the entrance had a slight step or there's a curb along the 'handicapped" parking spot.
Kayla, you need to leave the paint off the platform until after the stairs are placed. Not sure why, but many of the platform paints block stairs from being placed. Have encountered this frustrating glitch myself.
TS4 has so many absurd glitches ETA: I found one just the other day! I couldn't put a stair one tile away from a platform in one specific spot, even though I could on the rest of the platform, because _there was a diagonal wall beneath it on the floor below._ Actually ridiculous
My first thought when I saw that you have to copy and paste the building each time for each version was that you could make a completely different building depending on the event. Does it make sense? Not at all, but it is very chaotic and kind of gives time traveler vibes
When our sims work on a project they get a huge speed bonus when they're in the inspired mood. The same applies to RL. lilsimsie probably got inspired by browsing too many RL auditoriums, which greatly helped her finish it in a few hours.
She’s literally doing what she does every other month, just raising money instead. When she isn’t streaming she’s working, and it’s not like she streams 24/7. Even her 24 hour unpaused streams are low maintenance (and boring).
I didn’t realize you have to save them separately, i thought it would’ve saved altogether. I also don’t build on the dynamic lots so I guess maybe Eco lifestyle has that issue too with the community centers
From what I remember of Eco Lifestyle, yes it's the same. Though with the community centers, you would technically only have one version active at all times, depending on what it was voted to be, so it wouldn't be changing weekly. Probably.
I was just building a community center and I did most of the building with the lot type generic. Then I changed the lot type to community center and it appeared on all the four lots. I just had to adjust each lot like add selling tables to one and plants to the other etc. But I don't know if it then saves all four lots to the gallery 🤔
if i was a sims builder i would totally make a storage room for the auditorium and put all the different event stuff in there when theyre not being used,, like the balloon arches and career day banners (and just make it inaccessible to sims so they dont go in there 💀)
Thank you for including an accessible-like toilet. I know it's unnecessary in the Sims, but as someone who uses a wheelchair I really appreciate when someone represents that in the Sims. Unfortunately sometimes it feels like the Sims makes disabled people more invisible as we're not represented in these digital worlds we inhabit, and it improves my mood so much when someone remembers we exist.
omg kayak that turned out so good i HATED the outside but you made it actually fit! the inside is incredible too, career day might be a little less painful next time around!
I rebuilt the auditorium as well. My auditorium build is still basically just a box, but at least it's a box with a roof. I'm currently playtesting it before I upload all the different event versions of it to the Gallery, and it's taking a while to playtest because I have to wait for all the different events to roll around -- I've already playtested Career Day and Prom, and now my Teen Sims are aging up and getting ready for Graduation. In my build, the default Auditorium looks like it's almost ready to be used for a school play or choir concert, with a piano and a few microphones, a couple of the acting marks from Get Famous on the stage floor, and a partially complete mural from City Living on the back wall of the stage as if some of the students are painting a backdrop for the school play. For the Career Day version, I put down the required tables and a few computers, but I also added some tables and chairs, a few vending machines, a photo booth, a selfie backdrop, a music player and one of the cardboard dance floors from Get Together as if the school had set up a hangout spot in order to make Career Day seem like a more interesting event to the students. Prom is decorated in white and lavender with dim crimson lighting, and as far as items go, it's mostly just the standard prom stuff with the addition of a Get Together dance floor, as well as one of the Bubble Blowers from City Living hidden out back because we all know what kind of shenanigans some teens get up to at prom. Graduation is graduation, I tried to make the decorations look more stately and serious. Lot Traits for all the versions are Natural Lighting to up the selfie game, and Party Place so that hopefully our Sims can complete all their event tasks and still have some time left over for us the players to do the storytelling we want to do.
I remember for my graduation and others at my high school we’d hold them in the gymnasium. The school had a giant tarp they’d put over the basketball court to make sure none of the chairs or anything they placed on the floor would scuff it up
I did a gym sort of lot for the defaut, with basketball hoops on the main level, and a mezzanine area for cheer practice. For each version, I tried to keep the same furniture to mimic Sims redecorating for specific events, for example, the benches I placed for gradutation, I stacked in "balconies" in other versions, etc. Prom decor is stored in an attic kind of place above the stage where's there's also hypothetical drama club decor, etc. I'm really happy with how it turned out and it is functionnal in game.
@Evelyn Berry I would say, if you like building or cas, absolutely yes, it’s worth it just for that. But if you’re a gameplay person, I’d get it on sale. It can be boring and repetitive at times, but it also feels full and enriching. Additionally, the world (and the faire) are great for screenshots and quite nice for casual gameplay. I don’t regret buying it
Kayla, your videos are the highlight of my day. I just love relaxing after work and watching your videos. You're such a fun, kind, and amazing person and I'm so grateful to get to see your community thrive.
I bought this dlc last week and quickly replaced original school with yours ☺️ I was thinking it would be so cool if you had the option to sort builds in gallery by the actual lot you're in. I always get confused since my game is in a different language and names are all over the place 😅
This is a work of art, Kayla! 🎨 Looking forward seeing you play with even more packs that are kinda not given much love like Journey to Batuu. That'd be fun to watch! 😊😊
I loved decorating the career day, i did more tables and made up a career for each colour. Decorated around that, so doctor would have a skeleton next to him etc.
hiii i’m not sure if it’s a lighting glitch or not but i noticed that the banners/ceiling streamers in the graduation version are black in a random spot and gold everywhere else
I literally just finished renovating my auditorium too! I went through the same process figuring out to build the auditorium then save it to the library to copy for the subvenues. I didnt upload to gallery because i didnt think the subvenues save on the gallery
Renovating the auditorium is a great idea. I think the gurus choice to make each type as a separate download so players can decide which ones they want if they don't want all of them.
feel like this lot type could be something to add to every where. like where I place a park, I could easily change it to a wedding venue - so the wedding stuff isn’t up at all time. did that make sense?
I’m a teacher the one school I’ve worked at with tiles like the one you put in was built in the 1930’s it was a private all girls school. I’ve also seen “fancy” tiles in public schools I’ve visited but they tend to be older schools.
How is this video how I find graduation and career day take you to an active lot and isn’t a rabbit hole. I didn’t even realise this part of the pack was broken for me.
i rebuilt mine to have a theater with a different play/musical going on for each different event, and i went OFF with the star wars pack for a star wars themed show😂
you really nailed it with this one imo, this build reminds me Exactly of the multi-use aud space my local elementary And high school used. suddenly remembering the grade 8 grad, the dances, the fairs we held there. and!! ad a wheelchair user i super appreciate the accessible washroom!! even if the sims doesn't have wheelchairs I still appreciate someone thinking of us 😊
For prom the venue should be reconfigured to allow for a table that can be used for placing a birthday cake on it. That way the sim could age up at prom by blowing out the candles, increasing the likelihood that the sim can be elected prom royalty.
One little thing I discovered on accident when building my own auditorium. If you want to playtest a certain version, you just have to save and quit the game from build mode and the next time you load into the save file, the auditorium stays the version you left it at and you can then visit it. Not sure if this might break anything, as far as I can tell it doesn’t, but I would always use things like this on a special „building-savefile“. I hope somebody might find this helpful! :)
The stairs probably couldn’t go on the platform, because they could already step up it? That’s only a guess, though, as I normally don’t put stairs on a platform if they can step up already. So if you know, then, please enlighten me 😊. Also I love that you’ve redone this too. Amazing ❤
Sims will only step up a 1 high platform without stairs. Supposedly the reason for the stairs is painting the platform. If you paint it before placing the stairs they just don't work.
The ceremony happens the next Sunday after they age up, sometimes it doesn't appear on the calendar but you should get a pop up on that day asking you to go
❤️Who else thinks Kayla should do something similar to Clare Not So Berry Mix where she used her Not so berry heirs and made their children with different sims. I’d love to see it with her Nightmare Legacy Challenge!? ❤️
I am trying to download auditorium builds off the gallery, for which there are usually 4 different uploads, but when they are placed it changes the lot type to "generic" and you are no longer able to use the tabs to change from formal dance to career day ect, then if you exit and come back all the lot types are changed to the one that was downloaded and it changes back to auditorium.. no idea how to fix this :\
Yeah the older Sims games all had perfectly fine houses to play in. They weren't like overly decorated and definitely not as good as you can build yourself or get from someone else, but they were still functional and good enough. Sims 4 they wanted to be more of a 'sandbox' where EVERYTHING is up to the player to do.. which is just stupid in my opinion. It's partly why sims have no personality and there was no story progression for so long. They said they wanted "player agency" but that's something that should be toggled not just completely left out. I, like Kayla, enjoy when there's chaos going on in Sims games. It adds to the life sim part of the game. I don't want absolute perfection 24/7 nor do I want to have to cause the chaos myself because then it's not really chaotic.
I’ve been playing the pack since it came out and NONE of my sims ever got the graduation ceremony, I have no idea why. They just age up and the diploma is immediately in their inventory, nothing happens in the next couple days. 😢
i will always be sad this pack didn’t come with an active teacher career
Ikr!
that would have been so fun
i want a primary/elementary/grade school pack so if my dreams come true that will be included
@@tiredveryissage that would be so fun😭 kids are so lacking so an elementary school would be adorable
It sucks that the sims doesn’t do pack interactions anymore, I would love if you had discover university for the teacher career to become an active career
The fact you did a separate accessable bathroom even though we don't have wheelchairs fills me with such joy ♡ always thinking about the disabled and how to improve our lives. Thats why we love kayla!
omg i didn't notice this thank you so much for writing this and kayla for doing it 💜
The building entrance still has steps though. As a daughter of a wheelchair bound handicapped parent, it irks me in real life when places say they have accessibility but then the entrance had a slight step or there's a curb along the 'handicapped" parking spot.
@@coraj4321 I'm sorry you have to deal with that. That does sound like it's frustrating.
The fact that you wrote this comment fills me with worry. Comments like this ruins people’s mood.🙂
@@coraj4321it’s the sims. There’s no way to have a ramp and there’s no point in putting a ramp given that there’s no disabled sims.
''why did they make uploading this so difficult'' considering city living didn't even get an apartment lot type upload for gallery, im not shocked
I'm still mad about this. Trying to find replacement apartments, especially for the more expensive apartments, is a nightmare.
You'd have to cheat it with rooms
Kayla, you need to leave the paint off the platform until after the stairs are placed. Not sure why, but many of the platform paints block stairs from being placed. Have encountered this frustrating glitch myself.
TS4 has so many absurd glitches
ETA: I found one just the other day! I couldn't put a stair one tile away from a platform in one specific spot, even though I could on the rest of the platform, because _there was a diagonal wall beneath it on the floor below._ Actually ridiculous
that is such a weird cause for a glitch what 😭😭 /nay
in...credible... 😂
@@tiredveryissage /nay?
Woah! I would have never thought of this!
I also noticed that often I can't paint my platforms at all 🤦♀️
kayla doing gods work again
EA’s.
Yes
🤣🖤✌🏾 forreal
fr. this and keeping me sane lmao
@@keiraw7717 I’m not praying to her every night about my problems she’s Kayla not God so let’s be fr here I love her but she isn’t God
My first thought when I saw that you have to copy and paste the building each time for each version was that you could make a completely different building depending on the event. Does it make sense? Not at all, but it is very chaotic and kind of gives time traveler vibes
Funny to think they just like tear down the building every week. Then rebuild for each event.
@@Eventide215 Phineas and Ferb vibes
Maybe one permanent section and some 'tents' or pavilions?
I can literally only imagine doing this AND fundraising for a whole month 👏👏👏
When our sims work on a project they get a huge speed bonus when they're in the inspired mood. The same applies to RL.
lilsimsie probably got inspired by browsing too many RL auditoriums, which greatly helped her finish it in a few hours.
She’s literally doing what she does every other month, just raising money instead. When she isn’t streaming she’s working, and it’s not like she streams 24/7. Even her 24 hour unpaused streams are low maintenance (and boring).
I didn’t realize you have to save them separately, i thought it would’ve saved altogether. I also don’t build on the dynamic lots so I guess maybe Eco lifestyle has that issue too with the community centers
From what I remember of Eco Lifestyle, yes it's the same. Though with the community centers, you would technically only have one version active at all times, depending on what it was voted to be, so it wouldn't be changing weekly. Probably.
Yeah, the community centers work the same way. You have to save each individually.
I was just building a community center and I did most of the building with the lot type generic. Then I changed the lot type to community center and it appeared on all the four lots. I just had to adjust each lot like add selling tables to one and plants to the other etc. But I don't know if it then saves all four lots to the gallery 🤔
if i was a sims builder i would totally make a storage room for the auditorium and put all the different event stuff in there when theyre not being used,, like the balloon arches and career day banners (and just make it inaccessible to sims so they dont go in there 💀)
Thank you for including an accessible-like toilet. I know it's unnecessary in the Sims, but as someone who uses a wheelchair I really appreciate when someone represents that in the Sims. Unfortunately sometimes it feels like the Sims makes disabled people more invisible as we're not represented in these digital worlds we inhabit, and it improves my mood so much when someone remembers we exist.
omg kayak that turned out so good i HATED the outside but you made it actually fit! the inside is incredible too, career day might be a little less painful next time around!
I rebuilt the auditorium as well. My auditorium build is still basically just a box, but at least it's a box with a roof. I'm currently playtesting it before I upload all the different event versions of it to the Gallery, and it's taking a while to playtest because I have to wait for all the different events to roll around -- I've already playtested Career Day and Prom, and now my Teen Sims are aging up and getting ready for Graduation.
In my build, the default Auditorium looks like it's almost ready to be used for a school play or choir concert, with a piano and a few microphones, a couple of the acting marks from Get Famous on the stage floor, and a partially complete mural from City Living on the back wall of the stage as if some of the students are painting a backdrop for the school play.
For the Career Day version, I put down the required tables and a few computers, but I also added some tables and chairs, a few vending machines, a photo booth, a selfie backdrop, a music player and one of the cardboard dance floors from Get Together as if the school had set up a hangout spot in order to make Career Day seem like a more interesting event to the students.
Prom is decorated in white and lavender with dim crimson lighting, and as far as items go, it's mostly just the standard prom stuff with the addition of a Get Together dance floor, as well as one of the Bubble Blowers from City Living hidden out back because we all know what kind of shenanigans some teens get up to at prom.
Graduation is graduation, I tried to make the decorations look more stately and serious.
Lot Traits for all the versions are Natural Lighting to up the selfie game, and Party Place so that hopefully our Sims can complete all their event tasks and still have some time left over for us the players to do the storytelling we want to do.
Simsie forgetting she made the prom stage smaller than the rest of the other stages is so funny 😂 I do it too
I remember for my graduation and others at my high school we’d hold them in the gymnasium. The school had a giant tarp they’d put over the basketball court to make sure none of the chairs or anything they placed on the floor would scuff it up
I did a gym sort of lot for the defaut, with basketball hoops on the main level, and a mezzanine area for cheer practice.
For each version, I tried to keep the same furniture to mimic Sims redecorating for specific events, for example, the benches I placed for gradutation, I stacked in "balconies" in other versions, etc. Prom decor is stored in an attic kind of place above the stage where's there's also hypothetical drama club decor, etc.
I'm really happy with how it turned out and it is functionnal in game.
my sims have never had a graduation ceremony. maybe the game saw that i had 2 high school graduations and decided, “that’s it, that’s enough for you”
@Evelyn Berry I would say, if you like building or cas, absolutely yes, it’s worth it just for that. But if you’re a gameplay person, I’d get it on sale. It can be boring and repetitive at times, but it also feels full and enriching. Additionally, the world (and the faire) are great for screenshots and quite nice for casual gameplay. I don’t regret buying it
the normal auditoriums stage is one tile farther out than the other lots
Oh, I didn't know it's essentially 4 lots in 1. I'm definitely going to build 4 completely different building because I'm demented
Kayla, your videos are the highlight of my day. I just love relaxing after work and watching your videos. You're such a fun, kind, and amazing person and I'm so grateful to get to see your community thrive.
omg this was so needed lol. on another note, your content always puts a smile on my face when i have a bad day!! love you simsie🩷🩷
Me: CAS sims player main “I’m gonna try and build something” 0:15 “It’s just a big empty rectangle
I bought this dlc last week and quickly replaced original school with yours ☺️ I was thinking it would be so cool if you had the option to sort builds in gallery by the actual lot you're in. I always get confused since my game is in a different language and names are all over the place 😅
I’ve had at least 6-7 sims go through high school since this pack came out and I’ve still never seen a graduation 😭
This is a work of art, Kayla! 🎨 Looking forward seeing you play with even more packs that are kinda not given much love like Journey to Batuu. That'd be fun to watch! 😊😊
She did play Journey to Batuu on Star Wars Day. I'm not sure if it is up on her moresimsie channel but she did do it.
I loved decorating the career day, i did more tables and made up a career for each colour. Decorated around that, so doctor would have a skeleton next to him etc.
YAY NEW LILSIMSIE POSTT
hiii i’m not sure if it’s a lighting glitch or not but i noticed that the banners/ceiling streamers in the graduation version are black in a random spot and gold everywhere else
Yes! I noticed that too, I was scrolling through the comments waiting for someone to notice 😂
It’s not a lilsimsie build if she doesn’t make it smaller 😭😭
Would you consider redoing them but without any pack limitations? I know it will be a headache, but I think it would be really cool!
I literally just finished renovating my auditorium too! I went through the same process figuring out to build the auditorium then save it to the library to copy for the subvenues. I didnt upload to gallery because i didnt think the subvenues save on the gallery
We needed this 😊
Renovating the auditorium is a great idea. I think the gurus choice to make each type as a separate download so players can decide which ones they want if they don't want all of them.
speaking of the grad being glitchy. never been, did not even know it existed until I has replacing this lot lol!! Its never prompt me to go!
feel like this lot type could be something to add to every where. like where I place a park, I could easily change it to a wedding venue - so the wedding stuff isn’t up at all time. did that make sense?
I’m a teacher the one school I’ve worked at with tiles like the one you put in was built in the 1930’s it was a private all girls school. I’ve also seen “fancy” tiles in public schools I’ve visited but they tend to be older schools.
How is this video how I find graduation and career day take you to an active lot and isn’t a rabbit hole. I didn’t even realise this part of the pack was broken for me.
Why do I love the accessibility toilet? I was hoping the tiny box was a disabled loo
i rebuilt mine to have a theater with a different play/musical going on for each different event, and i went OFF with the star wars pack for a star wars themed show😂
for the dark foundation - its a sims lighting bug i think, theres a mod that brightens em up and makes them accurate to the color swatch
you really nailed it with this one imo, this build reminds me Exactly of the multi-use aud space my local elementary And high school used. suddenly remembering the grade 8 grad, the dances, the fairs we held there. and!! ad a wheelchair user i super appreciate the accessible washroom!! even if the sims doesn't have wheelchairs I still appreciate someone thinking of us 😊
I made mine look like there was a play being set up for production, using the Ivy and platforms to form a low budget balcony scene set up
This definitely looks much better. I don't have high school years but if I ever get it I will be using your version.
our cheer mat was DISGUSTING half of us started to refuse to do anything but stand/jumping on it
been waiting the video for this after seeing it in the gallery!
Your version is much better than theirs for sure. I always love your builds.
I never saw the graduation set up in this building because it glitched every time ^^
I wonder if they are making things like this easier on the gallery. In the last patch notes they mentioned they are still working on the gallery.
With the stairs on the platform i always place them one tile out and then move the stairs and it will let you move them up to the platform 😊
For prom the venue should be reconfigured to allow for a table that can be used for placing a birthday cake on it. That way the sim could age up at prom by blowing out the candles, increasing the likelihood that the sim can be elected prom royalty.
Please note that this increase of odds is less than that of having high charisma skill…
One little thing I discovered on accident when building my own auditorium. If you want to playtest a certain version, you just have to save and quit the game from build mode and the next time you load into the save file, the auditorium stays the version you left it at and you can then visit it.
Not sure if this might break anything, as far as I can tell it doesn’t, but I would always use things like this on a special „building-savefile“. I hope somebody might find this helpful! :)
our school had old bathrooms with kinda tile like that, but my high school was built in the 1920's
Yes!! As soon as Kayla made the new high school I immediately downloaded it. Time to replace this lot now, too!
Since seeing this video when it was first uploaded I made my own auditorium too based on my local village hall, so thank you for the inspiration
You make the best builds for real! Love your build videos!
Love this so much!! It looks so good!
It looks so good!
omg, this is almost EXACTLY how my real school's auditorium looks like 😭but like 10x bigger
Lol for my senior prom i fr just stood in the corners awkwardly, while my -now- partner was chaotically dancing in the center 💀
i’ve literally never had graduation with my sims they just finish high school and get the notification about graduating
I like the idea of putting the sneaky trellis on the building and then putting a keg on the roof for prom 😂
The stairs probably couldn’t go on the platform, because they could already step up it? That’s only a guess, though, as I normally don’t put stairs on a platform if they can step up already. So if you know, then, please enlighten me 😊. Also I love that you’ve redone this too. Amazing ❤
Sims will only step up a 1 high platform without stairs. Supposedly the reason for the stairs is painting the platform. If you paint it before placing the stairs they just don't work.
@@Eventide215 that makes sense. I never thought of that that way though. Thanks 😊
Already know this gonna be good and I just started watching
when i saw the pop up of the post of this video, it instantly made my day :)
I’ve never gotten to have graduation in my game. When my sims age up it just says they graduated lol
The ceremony happens the next Sunday after they age up, sometimes it doesn't appear on the calendar but you should get a pop up on that day asking you to go
So glad you made this I needed a matching one for your school in my save lol!!!
was literally just thinking about how i wish you post a video so i had something to do
To this day the high school graduation has never worked in my game….
❤️Who else thinks Kayla should do something similar to Clare Not So Berry Mix where she used her Not so berry heirs and made their children with different sims. I’d love to see it with her Nightmare Legacy Challenge!? ❤️
Love this so much
I am trying to download auditorium builds off the gallery, for which there are usually 4 different uploads, but when they are placed it changes the lot type to "generic" and you are no longer able to use the tabs to change from formal dance to career day ect, then if you exit and come back all the lot types are changed to the one that was downloaded and it changes back to auditorium.. no idea how to fix this :\
LOVE YOU KAYLA BEST SIMS CREATOR EVER
Omg please can someone tell me how she changed the way the tiles line up for the outlines?? I didn't know this was possible!
, and . keys rotate floor tiles
13:20 probably to apply to jobs online or retreave resumes?
I got your first ever boo ghost tattooed on my arm :)
Wow that’s commitment! ❤
Can’t wait for you stream at 4
Literally had no idea that graduation looked like that because it’s never worked for me😂
It does my head in because “oh we left it for you to build!” Isn’t that up to them? If we wanted to build it ourselves we would just change it?
Yeah the older Sims games all had perfectly fine houses to play in. They weren't like overly decorated and definitely not as good as you can build yourself or get from someone else, but they were still functional and good enough. Sims 4 they wanted to be more of a 'sandbox' where EVERYTHING is up to the player to do.. which is just stupid in my opinion. It's partly why sims have no personality and there was no story progression for so long. They said they wanted "player agency" but that's something that should be toggled not just completely left out. I, like Kayla, enjoy when there's chaos going on in Sims games. It adds to the life sim part of the game. I don't want absolute perfection 24/7 nor do I want to have to cause the chaos myself because then it's not really chaotic.
Kayla should work at ea for the sims 4 and do all the default buildings 😊
The way the podium shrinks😂
Kayla I love your content!!
i love ur boxes tho !!
Honestly, it looks a lot like the buildings at my college. My high school was a bit older than this style.
I love your builds!!! Several hours into “repairing” my games I still can’t access my new Growing together and also the new world. What else can I do?
It's funny bc i JUST rebuilt the high school and auditorium for my save 😂 made mine a gymnasium with a basketball court
Welp I think I might buy highschool years tonight
This is so nice I really like this ❤❤
I changed mine to match james small version and the prom is a completely different building
ATE
I’ve been playing the pack since it came out and NONE of my sims ever got the graduation ceremony, I have no idea why. They just age up and the diploma is immediately in their inventory, nothing happens in the next couple days. 😢
Love the shirt, Kayak!
I like the exterior and interior ideas but it seems a bit small
Omg I just re did this too!!
THANK YOU!💜
Much needed and way better than what I had
Love your sims videos❤❤❤
You should try a get rich quick with the Odd job feature!
why does this look exactly like the civic center where we had our semiformal dance in middle school
I was playing when you started uploading them, and I was indeed confused.
You didn’t fix the stage size on the original build. It’s 5 deep on the original, and 4 deep on the other 3.
I’ve never seen graduation. Ever.