Best video on ellipses and cylinders I have watched. Thank you so much, I feel blessed to have stumbled upon this video. I really enjoyed it and it gave me a very much wider and clearer understanding of drawing cylinders in perspective. You are very good at teaching Robert. It was totally worth my time, God bless you, sir
Omg, I just started the book How to Draw by Scott Robertson and Thomas Bertling. And let me tell you this video clarified so much of what I'm learning. I'm so grateful, thank you!!!
Omg man!!!...I literally had a drawing project for college and I was suppodsed to draw eclipses mostly, the deadline was literally today...and now you upload the vid..Im sooo saaaaad😭😭
this is the best explanation i came across as a bigenner , it's the most simple direst one among the other tutorials i've watched , thank u so much great content
Oh my good, thank you so much, whenever I’ve been drawing cylinder cross sections I’ve just kept the ellipses parallel / similar. I just go to this viewpoint perspective with cubes, but thank you so much for pointing out the obvious, that lmao this applies to circles as well. I was subconsciously struggling with this, thank you for clarifying. Within first ten seconds, I exclaimed out loud, “ohhhhhhh!”
Another excellent UA-cam. You were very detailed about ellipses. There are some really good tips on how to draw tires so that I can achieve my dream of being an automotive designer for Tesla someday. Thanks for the help.
Holy mushrooms, I wish I had learned this in college. Thank you! I teach my students "circles are squishy", but now I have a more technical way of showing rather than just flat planes
@@robertlkiss you explained that the lines has to be perpendicular but my brain ignored that part so I had a hard time understanding the rest. But you did a great job explaining it because Peter Han quickly explained how to draw ellipses but I didn't understand it.
This helped me alot :D You should turn off your auto-focus on your camera btw ;) If you manually focus on the sketch you avoid blurring when you move your hands up and down or away from the camera. Friendly tip :)
7:50 what you are drawing there is not a rotated cylinder. It is more like top and bottom face (circles) tilted on parallel tubes. Because if straight lines are connecting to one vanishing point, it means those lines are parallel to each other.
The "Rotating a cylinder around a point" ALMOST GOT ME UNDERSTANDING THE PART I NEVER UNDERSTAND ABOUT ELLIPSES. Why on Earth do I tilt the axis as, according to what principle or logic????? How, when, how much? Do you have any video that is specifically about that, or do you know of one??? Because honestly, it has become the bane of my existance.
@@robertlkiss 😂NO, I obviously don't rotate the axis when *I* want to rotate it. I do not control the ellipse. No, I'm just kidding, your video is awesome and after watching it I saw another one and it all came together 🧡 So thank you, and thanks for replying as well. Best wisheeeeeeeeeeees
@@robertlkissI believe the major and minor axes are defined as the lines of symmetry for an ellipse, allowing them to be "folded" along those lines, so not sure what OP is talking about here.
So does it also mean that the side left and right of the cylinder always parallel to each other? Meaning both side have the same degree no matter the perspective?
Yes … ish. Imagine having your cylinder in a rectangle, and your cylinder fits perfectly in it. WIll the sides of the rectanglebe parallel to each other? The only case they are not if one of the sides is slanted differently, has a wedge or something. And disregards this if you are still at the beginning of your journey and this is more confusing then helping, but when you draw in perspective nothing is paralalel because everything is running towards one perspective point. So in that case the anwser is no, becaue the ellipse(in this case the side) that is further away from you is always slightly more open(meaning the minor axis is a little bit longer)
Thank you! This is a great tutorial! The only thing that might be a little confusing is the glass you have used as example. It looks much wider in the top than in the bottom, but when you start drawing in perspective, those are supposed to be perfect (straight) cylinders, right? So in my opinion, a straight glass with constant thickness would have been better for the demonstration. But I guess you don't have any, do you? :D
As you mentioned ua-cam.com/video/Voyresa2Y1c/v-deo.html, as the eclipses move towards the vanishing point, they become more circular. Consequently, if I were to draw a circle halfway to the vanishing point and subsequently add another cylinder behind the initial one, how would the overall depiction appear?
I just wanna know How do i draw elongated(not perfect circle) ellipses in perspective, and the minor axis technique only works with perfect circles in perspective.
The technique works for every ellipse that is on an axis. If you wanna draw loose ellipses then you have to reference the geometry around the ellipse for perspective.
@@robertlkiss o i see, you mean dividing the rectangle into several parts and placing the ellipse as measurements in the rectangle. Thank you for the advice.
yo, I have a question. What would happen if when looking directly at the top of the cylinder instead of aprefect circle, it were an elipse? I hope I made myself clear
I agree that these may not all be hard and fast rules... Although it may be that Ellipses have their Minor Axis point to a VP, I've seen an image that would suggest that this may not always be true... It's a bit disappointing because I really like to have Absolute Truths to go off of...
Where did you learn that ellipses are more circular the closer they are to the vanishing point? I don't remember that being in How-to-Draw,, maybe its really intuitive, but i haven't ever thought of it like this, so thanks! have been really struggling drawing multiple simple forms in space with different vanishing points with high accuracy,,, such as 3 detailed curvy space ships in the same scene at different xyz angles, this trick helps alot! Any recommendations for this kind of drawing? (multiple rotated objects in space?) example at 21:41 how do you pick where all the vanishing points are going to be accurately? say for a mechs
Ellipses are only more circular going towards a vanishing point if they are part of a cylinder, and the central axis of that cylinder(which forms the minor axis of the cylinder's ellipses) is pointing towards that vanishing point. And i guess I learned this by observation, and later during industrial design sketching classes.
Marshall Vandruff says in his perspective videos the fastest way to see if an artist is untrained is to look at their ellipses. So if you think gosh I don't want people to think Im untrained then you should properly learn your ellipses.
I hate to be that guy, but you're not drawing the center point of the circle in perspective, you're drawing the center point of the elipse itself. Now that might not seem to make a difference but it does! You can find the center of an elipse by drawing a box around it in the same perspective and drawing diagonals through the center of the box. What this looks like, is the center of the circle being off-center from the center point of the elipse.
Technically the center of an ellipse is not exactly in the center of the box that you draw around it. I made that mistakes in one of my previous videos and had a mend it. If Tha is what you are talking about.
Thank god someone finally made a video on elipses that isnt simply "draw it in a plane" with nothing else added.
Glad you find this helpful!
@Robert Laszlo Kiss thank you soooo much
Soooo helpful. Thank you
This should be your content, real learning and practical applications. Well done
I've already watched a ton of how to draw an ellipse in perspective but I never got the theory behind it 'til I watched this video. Thank you!
Very happy to hear that you found it useful!
For real. This is THE foundational Ellipse drawing video on UA-cam. Every other one builds off of this one as far as I can concerned.
This is BRILLIANT. I haven’t seen ellipses explained like THIS. God bless you!
Glad you found it useful!
I know this was more of a explanation video but these are some good exercise to practice as well. Thank you for the video!
Oh yeah, that is a good point! And thanks glad you liked the video!
I never got this, because of its highly counterintuitive nature. Thanks for clearing this out. Keep up the good work!
Glad to hear that this was helpful!
Best video on ellipses and cylinders I have watched. Thank you so much, I feel blessed to have stumbled upon this video. I really enjoyed it and it gave me a very much wider and clearer understanding of drawing cylinders in perspective. You are very good at teaching Robert. It was totally worth my time, God bless you, sir
Tha k you very much for this lovely comment, I'm glad you found the video useful!
Omg, I just started the book How to Draw by Scott Robertson and Thomas Bertling. And let me tell you this video clarified so much of what I'm learning. I'm so grateful, thank you!!!
Omg man!!!...I literally had a drawing project for college and I was suppodsed to draw eclipses mostly, the deadline was literally today...and now you upload the vid..Im sooo saaaaad😭😭
Sorry mate but maybe it is still helpful for the future ;)
@@robertlkiss it is helpful already✌🔥
You know the tutorials gonna be good when u see how he draws circles 😳
I LOVED this! Thank you for building this tutorial in such an intuitive format. Please make more art fundamental guides ❤❤❤
Glad you found it useful!
this is the best guide of drawing perspective I've ever seen 🤧💘
Happy to hear that :)
Thanks for taking the time to so thoroughly explain this topic. Also, please note that a perfect circle is also a band.
You're welcome.
Hahaha a thank you for that XD
you have no idea how much you help me with your videos, thank you so much
These are the comments I love to read. Thanks.
this is the best explanation i came across as a bigenner , it's the most simple direst one among the other tutorials i've watched , thank u so much great content
I'm very happy to hear that it was useful!
This so far the best explanation on ellipses work. Robert thanks to you and your channel, good job.
Happy to hear it was useful!
Got the basic of ellipse from draw a box with your video that knowledge got elevated. I can't thank you enough.
@@anmolsingh4026 glad to read that you found my video useful :)
The most comprehensive and insightful explanation of the elipse.
Excellent!
No one has ever explained it, this well before.
You rocked dude.
Thank you very much, I'm always happy to read these type of comments ^_^
Oh my good, thank you so much, whenever I’ve been drawing cylinder cross sections I’ve just kept the ellipses parallel / similar. I just go to this viewpoint perspective with cubes, but thank you so much for pointing out the obvious, that lmao this applies to circles as well. I was subconsciously struggling with this, thank you for clarifying. Within first ten seconds, I exclaimed out loud, “ohhhhhhh!”
I'm glad you found the video useful, on the fundamental level everything is interconnected :)
God bless you for this, I've been working through Scott Robertsons', How to Draw book and the ellipse chapter has been kicking my ass. Thank you!
@@foreveracorgi ellipses kick everyone's ass, they are hateful things :)
Another excellent UA-cam. You were very detailed about ellipses. There are some really good tips on how to draw tires so that I can achieve my dream of being an automotive designer for Tesla someday. Thanks for the help.
Hopefully by then they will get rid of Elon.
@@robertlkiss True now more than ever.
Been searching EVERYWHERE
Finally! Thank you 😊
I'm happy you found d what you were looking for
@@robertlkiss I did and your channel is a blessing
Thank you so much
hey bud! Thanks for the lecture, everything was placed perfectly in the video which made the concept of ellipses clear to me✌🙏
I'm happy to read that!
Thank you so much for this video! I was having trouble drawing ellipses in general, let alone in perspective, this helped me a lot!
I'm happy to hear that!
BEST ROTATING ELLIPSES CLASS I'VE SEEN!!
@@JoseClMezzalira thank you very much!
where were you all my life? this is such a masterclass lol ! thank u so very much
Hehe thanks, glad you found the video useful :)
This is so informative. Im trying to learn how to draw bicycles using ellipses perspective principles.
@@sowmyanatz in glad you found this useful!
Simply the best video on this subject I have found. New subscriber here. Fantastic
Thank you very much!
Thank you for this clear & impressive tutorial guide.
Glad to hear you like it!
Holy mushrooms, I wish I had learned this in college. Thank you! I teach my students "circles are squishy", but now I have a more technical way of showing rather than just flat planes
Thank you very much, your explanation was really very detailed.
I'm happy to read that!
this video answered questions I didn't know I had :D cheers!
Haha glad to hear that :)
This is very helpful! Thank you 👍
Glad it was helpful!
This is gold video. Thank you so much Mr. Robert!
So good, best video I have seen
Thank you very much!
I am a beginer and this is fabolus thank you !!
Glad to see it helps!
Thank you so much you really made it very clear.
Happy to hear it helped!
man this is really helpful, thanks a lot.
Happy to read that :)
thank you so much
Love your work🔥💚
Thank you very much :)
Thank you so much ❤
Glad you liked it!
Extremely helpful thank you
Thank you!!
Thank you!
Thank you for your helpful informations
Glad to hear it was helpful!
best video on drawing rotated cylinders in youtube, thank you sir. do you recommend other sources?
THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!
Glad it helped!
看完以后，只有一个感受，我的脑子！！！在风暴！然后，必须得跟着训练，不然根本不懂= = 。谢谢！
man this video was kinda confusing but I'm thankful I finally understand it after watching the whole thing
@@kevinabasolo6121 can I do something to make it less confusing?
@@robertlkiss you explained that the lines has to be perpendicular but my brain ignored that part so I had a hard time understanding the rest. But you did a great job explaining it because Peter Han quickly explained how to draw ellipses but I didn't understand it.
@kevinabasolo6121 I'm happy the you did ubderstand it in the end!
thank a lot, your explain is clearly
Thanks a LOT! 😀
Glad you liked it
thank you it was helpful
Happy to read that!
Thank you for this great video, the cilinder part is still a litte hard for me but I can watch it twice :p Greetz
Don't watch it too often I have been known to cause headaches when consumed too much :P
This helped me alot :D
You should turn off your auto-focus on your camera btw ;) If you manually focus on the sketch you avoid blurring when you move your hands up and down or away from the camera. Friendly tip :)
Happy to hear it was useful! Sadly I had to do a lot of retakes and by the final one I forgot to turn off the autofocus, usually, it is off.
thanks for the video
Hope it it will be helpful!
Thanks a lot sir
Hope it was helpful!
Great video, I finally understand 🎉🎉🎉
Happy to read that!
Awesome
Thanks!
Thank you soooo sooo much finaly I understand😅🎉
I'm very happy to hear that!
This definitely helps!
Thanks a ton! This really helped!
Example one was a real eureka moment
Very happy to read that, eureka moments are what I live for :)
7:50 what you are drawing there is not a rotated cylinder. It is more like top and bottom face (circles) tilted on parallel tubes. Because if straight lines are connecting to one vanishing point, it means those lines are parallel to each other.
The "Rotating a cylinder around a point" ALMOST GOT ME UNDERSTANDING THE PART I NEVER UNDERSTAND ABOUT ELLIPSES. Why on Earth do I tilt the axis as, according to what principle or logic????? How, when, how much? Do you have any video that is specifically about that, or do you know of one??? Because honestly, it has become the bane of my existance.
Not sure I get the question. You rotate the axis when you want to rotate it. I don't know what your reason for that is XD
@@robertlkiss 😂NO, I obviously don't rotate the axis when *I* want to rotate it. I do not control the ellipse. No, I'm just kidding, your video is awesome and after watching it I saw another one and it all came together 🧡 So thank you, and thanks for replying as well. Best wisheeeeeeeeeeees
How do you know what angle to put that perpendicular line? Can't figure that bit
It has to be perpendicular on the axis
I didn’t get any boys till I watched this video. Thankyou
This is what I am searching for
nice
Thanks
Super useful video. One little mistake, mayor axis is not a line of symmetry. Sometimes it is but usually not.
Thanks but I’m pretty sure it is for the cylinder that is revolved around it.
@@robertlkissI believe the major and minor axes are defined as the lines of symmetry for an ellipse, allowing them to be "folded" along those lines, so not sure what OP is talking about here.
rizz: squares and cubes
sexual harrasment: ellipses
So does it also mean that the side left and right of the cylinder always parallel to each other? Meaning both side have the same degree no matter the perspective?
Yes … ish. Imagine having your cylinder in a rectangle, and your cylinder fits perfectly in it. WIll the sides of the rectanglebe parallel to each other? The only case they are not if one of the sides is slanted differently, has a wedge or something.
And disregards this if you are still at the beginning of your journey and this is more confusing then helping, but when you draw in perspective nothing is paralalel because everything is running towards one perspective point. So in that case the anwser is no, becaue the ellipse(in this case the side) that is further away from you is always slightly more open(meaning the minor axis is a little bit longer)
@@robertlkiss Thank you so much, I really appreciate this. Gonna read and understand this more.
Thank you! This is a great tutorial!
The only thing that might be a little confusing is the glass you have used as example. It looks much wider in the top than in the bottom, but when you start drawing in perspective, those are supposed to be perfect (straight) cylinders, right? So in my opinion, a straight glass with constant thickness would have been better for the demonstration. But I guess you don't have any, do you? :D
Maybe you can make a better video with a straight glass
@@valentincarrillo8314 Me? No.
Yeah I see what you mean sadly I had no such glasses in my house XD all our glasses have a slight taper to them.
As you mentioned ua-cam.com/video/Voyresa2Y1c/v-deo.html, as the eclipses move towards the vanishing point, they become more circular. Consequently, if I were to draw a circle halfway to the vanishing point and subsequently add another cylinder behind the initial one, how would the overall depiction appear?
I just wanna know
How do i draw elongated(not perfect circle) ellipses in perspective, and the minor axis technique only works with perfect circles in perspective.
The technique works for every ellipse that is on an axis. If you wanna draw loose ellipses then you have to reference the geometry around the ellipse for perspective.
@@robertlkiss o i see, you mean dividing the rectangle into several parts and placing the ellipse as measurements in the rectangle.
Thank you for the advice.
yo, I have a question. What would happen if when looking directly at the top of the cylinder instead of aprefect circle, it were an elipse? I hope I made myself clear
Is there an industrial design textbook on sketching that you recommend? Did this method come from a book?
I always recommend Scott Robertson and Koos Eissen's books
@@robertlkiss Thank you. Always appreciate the Black Cat collection in the back :) . Comfy vids!
Succccch good content .
Thank you :)
The man speaks the truth, my ellipses drawing skills got me my first wife.
Hahaha well who would have thunk XD
I agree that these may not all be hard and fast rules...
Although it may be that Ellipses have their Minor Axis point to a VP, I've seen an image that would suggest that this may not always be true...
It's a bit disappointing because I really like to have Absolute Truths to go off of...
Where did you learn that ellipses are more circular the closer they are to the vanishing point? I don't remember that being in How-to-Draw,, maybe its really intuitive, but i haven't ever thought of it like this, so thanks! have been really struggling drawing multiple simple forms in space with different vanishing points with high accuracy,,, such as 3 detailed curvy space ships in the same scene at different xyz angles, this trick helps alot! Any recommendations for this kind of drawing? (multiple rotated objects in space?) example at 21:41 how do you pick where all the vanishing points are going to be accurately? say for a mechs
Ellipses are only more circular going towards a vanishing point if they are part of a cylinder, and the central axis of that cylinder(which forms the minor axis of the cylinder's ellipses) is pointing towards that vanishing point.
And i guess I learned this by observation, and later during industrial design sketching classes.
14:25 adadada!!🥴🤭😂
youre killing me with the "colored" pens! color where???
apart from that , your instructions are much appreciated. use different pens
thanks
Cool!!!
Thanks!
There should be a challenge about ellipses, like there is about boxes!
People would hate it, I just heard you say it and I hate it XD
@@robertlkiss after you said it, I started to hate the idea too ,😂
Marshall Vandruff says in his perspective videos the fastest way to see if an artist is untrained is to look at their ellipses. So if you think gosh I don't want people to think Im untrained then you should properly learn your ellipses.
That is probably spot on
15:54
Imagine teaching a guy about elipses in perspective and he falls for you🤓😂
Don't fall for internet people they are all fake :P
I hate to be that guy, but you're not drawing the center point of the circle in perspective, you're drawing the center point of the elipse itself. Now that might not seem to make a difference but it does! You can find the center of an elipse by drawing a box around it in the same perspective and drawing diagonals through the center of the box. What this looks like, is the center of the circle being off-center from the center point of the elipse.
Technically the center of an ellipse is not exactly in the center of the box that you draw around it. I made that mistakes in one of my previous videos and had a mend it. If Tha is what you are talking about.
i feel insecure about me drawing with my arm instead of my fingers/wrist.
Yes of course because it's not something you are used to, the more you use it the better you will get at it.
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I have no idea what this guys is talking about. I feel he is over complicating something that is simple
thank you so much.
Glad you liked it
Thank you so much !!