Former Portland Professor Details How Woke & Politically Correct Universities Have Become
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2021
- Patrick Bet-David sits down with Peter Boghossian. Peter Gregory Boghossian is an American philosopher and pedagogist. Let Peter know your thoughts on the interview here: bit.ly/3qruvmt
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The problem with w/this whole 'woke' thing is that it's been fully embraced by young people who have no idea how life works.
And they have become so brainwashed, they won't open their minds.
That’s why pelosi wants to lower the voting age. Dumb voters.
AMEN!!! Don’t ya love when your 14 year sister in law tries explaining how life is supposed to work, yet hasn’t worked a day in her life, made a rent or mortgage payment let alone take the trash to the curb. It’s hilarious!!!!!
Let them have their fucking “woke utopia!” They’ll have to suffer the bulk of the consequences. They don’t get it, and don’t want to...so let them live in their misery🙄
They always target the young and ignorant. Those who seek to subvert snd undermine western civilization do so very slowly and incremently. Slowly pushing falsehoods on impressionable minds generationally.
I had the honor of having him as a teacher and he is to this day my most favorite teacher of all time. In class this guy doesn’t hold back and makes you feel stupid… In a good way.
oh thanks for saying, reading some comment above was kinda going against him too complicating it. I loved this video even when he said it's complicated. he was really excited about bigger picture ... :)
i think he makes good arguments for everything accept against the existence of God, which I find his views very simplistic
@@ceceroxy2227 Simplistic? In what way?
@@ceceroxy2227 except
My favorite teacher was similar in that he made me feel stupid in a good way. He expected a lot from his students, which is one of the best gifts a teacher can give. Yet he did it in a way that was not insulting. He was persistent and focused. He also liked a good debate. I learned so much from him.
I'm a right leaning libertarian type and I have alot of respect for this guy and what he is doing. This is my kind of lefty. These are the people we can discuss things with and come up with real solutions in society. He is absolutely right about the side that refuses to talk and listen. We need to get those people out of government and academia NOW so we can progress together. Otherwise I'm afraid we're doomed for civil war.
How the fuck can you say 99% of the faculty voting for one party isnt really a problem in a public institution? Teachers and courses shouldn't be political/politicized
Its a lot to ask someone to not be political (military officers, yeah I know). I think the better approach is like Peter does. Journalists should do the same. That's is to say stop feigning "objectivity". That is bullshit. Be open write/teach what you think, show your reasoning. Celebrate when you have a brilliant student who might be smarter, but possess bad argumentation. Being in contrarians to coyter your point of view. Submit you ego to a gauntlet from which others learn. Of course academicians and journalists do not want to do this if its not expected of them. Peter should go to Hillsdale college or start his own with others like Peterson, Heying, Weinstein, etc
Most of the hw I was doing at PSU towards the end was all politics
@@Nick-gi6hj in what field of study is your degree?
Brilliant, we need more of this type of conversations please.
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Conversations finished in 1983. Now you need action
Thanks, Shamus.
I know this professor at PSU and took his class. PSU is so damn toxic with wokeness... I got shut down in Dorm study area for suggesting to a friend a book by Coach Corey Wayne on how to date and be a confident man. This girl who was a dorm leader, told me not to teach him how to take advantage of women and I better not spread that poison on campus. I kept telling her, the book doesn't teach that, it teaches how to build confidence and self esteem. She wasn't having it and was like "NO YOU'RE TEACHING HIM HOW TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WOMEN!!!"
+Mic Wait, did someone have a differing view on predatory masculinity? How dare she have a perspective? How woke! How dare she!?
@@highroller-jq3ix yes how dare someone read a book bc they have the right to do so? How dare someone censor someones mere suggestion of reading a book? how dare someone form their own perspective and opinion on something? How Woke! How dare they???
@@zamzamxiv Where is the right to read a book guaranteed, pinhead? But otherwise. I agree. You just don't get the irony or recognize the ridiculous, paranoid hysteria in this completely unbelievable anecdote or apply it to conservadupe "woke" rage over an imaginary ideology.
@@highroller-jq3ix Screaming at people and trying to control what they do with other people is crazy person territory. But sure, water it down that she had a perspective... Lul the dishonesty of this kind of argument is overbearing.
@@soccerplayer922 I agree that the zealous and ideological ranting of religious fundies attempting to control others is undesirable, and that type of person is the foundation of the anti-"woke" rage mob. You are fetishizing the characters of an anecdote that as far as you know never even happened and magnifying them to an absurd proportion. The stupidity of that kind of argument is overwhelming, which is the word you probably intended and weren't smart enough to use in the context.
I was a Professor of Philosophy before this stuff started developing, but other factors early on played a role: 1-Using the campus as a center for political action and attack on authority,
2-The growing idea of politics as tribal, 3-Cheapening of standards to accommodate more and more students, the advent of the university as corporation profit machine, 3-Cynicism about learning, stemming from post modernism and the idea that there is no truth, only power. Complex but disastrous.
I was a philosophy major (analytic) back in '06, its amazing how the social sciences were hijacked by post modernist rubbish, a big mistake and disservice to young brains being formed.
5. peoples ever decreasing attention span and vocabulary due to the internet acting as a surrogate brain.
+b kerr kerr Really? You were able to pass off that vapid patter as philosophy? Stunning.
@@dojo2157 Right? They can't even form a proper possessive using an apostrophe any more.
@@highroller-jq3ix And grammar Nazi's can't even argue the meat and potato's point, just deflect. wow.
By the time I became a post-grad student, I figured out that the concept of peer-reviewed, scholarly articles was drenched in ivory tower politics. This system consists of a bunch of egg-heads (some not even that smart) patting one other on the back, yucking it up at their fancy cocktail parties, and schmoozing with the crookedest of crooked politicians. That being said, Andrew Huberman should win the Nobel Prize for what he has done in educating us common folk about how the brain works, and how we can use that knowledge to change our lives -- FOR FREE!🙌🏾👏🏾🏆👍🏾
In my 20s and early 30s, I used to think that people with more than a bachelors, and those with a doctorate for sure, were smarter than me. That couldn’t be farther from the truth. Having worked in a super fast paced and ever changing job for the past 20 years with a variety of colleagues and clients has taught me so much. I don’t put a lot of weight on “certifications” either. I could write a lot of the carts I’m being asked to pay to get, but my employer needs them bluster up their partnership with the software company we work with. And, because I have implemented the software in real life, I’m finding it hard to take these dumb tests.
peer censorship
It starts with people who don’t believe in their own ability to better their life’s circumstances. And because of that, certain ideologies become very attractive. So when these concepts are introduced, the engine just runs itself.
This is so accurate bro
Well put
Great point
Good point. They want others to provide materially to them instead of taking responsibility.
What a perfect summation 👌
I was finishing my degree at PSU when the administration investigated Peter for "using human test subjects" / misconduct in publishing the hoax papers. Even if true, this being their primary concern revealed how utterly backwards their priorities have become. The reality is, these pseudo-scholars and the journals they publish in are using the minds of young people, and arguably all of academia, as their human test subjects. If PSU's priority was to keep academia functional as a knowledge producer, Peter would have been awarded. The response that happened tells you all you need to know about the state of moral orthodoxy in modern universities, and Peter is right in saying they're nearing the point of no return.
Thanks for your support, Austen!
Everybody needs to see those seven papers that pass peer-reviewed. The dog park one is hilarious.. get a tissue cuz you're going to laugh so hard you're going to cry
I was in college and university from 1992-2000, in a junior college, then a community college, then a private school, then a state university. I saw how a lot of this grew, especially by the time I escaped the university. Fun fact: I had a high school guidance counselor that suggested I attend Evergreen. You can well imagine why I am so glad that I never did.
Paul Stamets went to Evergreen. Probably the only good thing about it.
P.S. has YT videos on mycology. Wonderful scientific mind.
@@allenanderson4911 I really like Paul. I have 3 of his books on mushrooms. Watch his conversation with Joe Rogan on the JRE podcast. Interesting stuff.
In retrospect, I believe the idea of Evergreen State College had its merits and, I believe, produced amazing graduates. However, the "Woke" bullsh*t disease, like cholera or the Plague, invaded that school in ca.2015(?). Nothing more to add- just view the history on UA-cam for yourselves. And the result is any job application with an Evergreen degree will be tossed into the circular file.
@@vickielawson3114 Are you sure you aren’t weird because I think you are.
dodged that bullet! although i think it would have been cool to attend bret weinsteins classes. if he was teaching during that time frame
Very interesting and thank you for this. I work for a national company (international to a degree) that has a diversity/equality department. From what I can see, the young college graduates they have hired (and our HR person who is black, supported BLM, and was pushing that support on all of us) the idea of equality is a joke.
We recently got an email asking all of us to "Please participate in your local Pride events" and this week got a "get a free PRIDE Tshirt" paid for by the company.
I seriously could care less if is gay, because your lifestyle is your choice...but I'll be g'damned if I let you try and force me to embrace and celebrate it. You sure as hell aren't celebrating mine.
This company ALSO recently created several "at work networking groups".....(1) Black/ethnic, (2) Women, (3) LGBTQ etc. Notice something missing? Yeah....equality my ass.
I've always wondered why so many companies have been taken over by HR when HR adds nothing of value to the company. Them having the power to hire and fire people seems grossly misplaced
Sounds like Travelers!!😄
You’re seeing it, but be careful… you use the word equality, which is an American concept. It’s written in our constitution. What word you mean to use is equity, is two letters off but that is what they are pushing and we don’t like. Big difference 👍🏻
+Connie Foxx You come across as a whiny, entitled Karen.
I don't get this anti-BLM thing though - maybe I've missed something about it. It seemed to be triggered by the casual murder of black people by white police officers, from which arose a return of black rights activism generally. Is the problem that it was co-opted by some powerful political group, or that the demonstrations turned into riots, or something else? Surely it's not the weak and insulting "equality" argument that white lives matter too? I mean, equal opportunities (rather than positive discrimination) is one thing, ignoring the whole point of the slogan and black people's suffering is another. Or is it all wrong, and there's no anti-black racism these days (sarcasm), or black people deserve it because their rates of criminality are higher (ditto).
Key statement: ".....they are not teaching people how to think and make decisions on their own...." that alone should be a red flag to everyone.
"If you're not offering the opposing view it is indoctrination. Plain and simple..."
My I.Q. dropped from watching this. Sorry I generally get something out of these interviews.
We need more interview sessions with people like this guy! *Definitely gonna need a 2nd interview!!!!* ~Next year?
👀👀🤞🏻🏆💯
I'm ready!
Wife and I are both looking to have kids here soon, and all this ideology and indoctrination in schools is insane and unamerican. Given serious thought to starting my own school at this point.
Homeschooling is great and expanding that to include a dozen or so other students may make it viable as a source of income.
While it's legal. In Europe it's banned. I fear it will become illegal here as well. Symposiums are being held on a regular basis at places like Harvard. One more term of the Democrats in charge and they'll get to it eventually.
Check out Exodus as a homeschool curriculum.
Homeschooling is a wonderful thing if one’s intent is to expand a child’s environment by exposing them to MORE than the typical school system does, and your overarching principle is to teach critical thinking and curiosity. If the intention is to shield and to close off their access to information that you don’t believe or agree with (like Evolution vs Creation) then it’s as bad is any other ideological based education. The objective of education should be to show young people how to learn, how to think (for themselves), not what to think.
@@teeokeefe well you loonatic you need to learn what schools where based off of (Prussian) the entire concept of education and schools are Prussian indoctrination camps so uh get your thumb out your mouth stop suckling the teet grow up.
having kids in america seems cruelty at this point :D
Most informative interview you’ve had so far on current events and what is going on with society today! So damn good I was disappointed when it had to end
Thanks, Paul!
James Lindsey is great too, thank you Peter
Enjoyed this conversation! I listened to this professor when the terrible stuff that was happening to him on campus was revealed. (Such as bags of poop on his office door) I was shocked that the faculty that was involved in the incitement could get away with the terror they inflicted. Disgusting behavior.
I am one of those people who questions everything and push until I get answers. I piss off many people who’d rather say things they’ve heard somewhere but they don’t fully understand. So questioning them on the subject makes them feel (their words) ‘unsafe’ and/or ‘not ready’ . I just tell them that it is great that they have an opinion, I just want to understand how they arrived at it, just in case they know something that I don’t….boy, that never ends well. I believe that if somebody is so concrete in their beliefs than they won’t object to explaining…it’s got to come from somewhere… and then if they don’t want to discuss it, maybe it is because their view point is pretty weak. Hey, that is my opinion, no agreement is necessary, however, conversations are welcome.
Nowadays having an open mind will get you canceled/fired in certain groups.
@@Rambleon444 I agree! This is why speaking up is crucial if we want it to stop!
"...I just want to know how they arrived at it." Thank you! Yes!
My personal favorite is the word 'problematic.' I don't know who first coined it, but in my experience, it's always used to describe an idea or viewpoint that the listener doesn't want to hear and hopes to censor.
@@DCLayclerk Good one. I find that people who disagree with you, but can't explain their point of view nowadays they just call you 'racist' or blame global warming to end the conversation
"Stay afraid, but do it anyway. What's important is the action. You don't have to wait to be confident. Just do it and eventually the confidence will follow." - Carrie Fisher
I'm newer to this channel and I love Patrick's interview style. He always pushes to try to get as in depth to the concepts and arguments as possible.
This is the second time I have had to subscribe to your page in about a week. Just found y'all, love the discourse!
HEY! Wanna know how the company based in Chicago my father worked at for 18 years handled this?
Applicant had to meet with a Clinical psychiatrist as part of the interview process, including when hiring HR reps.
Father never had to attend a single HR required “ diversity and equity” lecture and never heard of the Woke until he retired last year due to the pandemic.
Turns out, companies with smart hiring practices don’t have to deal with this insanity, who knew.
They're teaching kids a caricature of right wingers or conservatives, which is complete BS. I would put money on the idea that very few of those professors personally know a conservative, or have a legit right wing friend that they talk to often. For that reason they have a completely warped and delusional view of everyone outside of their bubbles.
I've been heavily into online culture since the 1980's when I started out on bbs's and even in the early academic-business internet and noticed a distinct almost overnight shift in the natural culture around the early 2000's. I've always suspected that it was not natural, but once it was started became self sustaining.
The first 20 years it was very libertarian then all of a sudden anti-republican came out of nowhere and became a fad.
The outcome Pat is asking for is to destroy America. Yuri talked about it. In order to do it is to start infiltrating education system. Those who got indoctrinate through school system grew up and go into the workforce like teachers, big corporations and all branches of the government and the cycle goes on. It’s a class warfare. The elites want to keep the peasant arguing over issues they create whether it’s climate, trans, black, rich vs poor while they are lining their pockets. We are doomed.
@@jbpsap898 Random question...study academic precipitation?
@@sdrc92126 I used to run a BBS, so we might be from the same generation (or you might be older as i was a young sysop). I noticed a similar thing. I'm not from the US, and back then US politics didn't seem to dominate much of the online space like it does today. Now we seem to have a flow on effect where US political friction propagates across western countries.
Back 20 years or so, free speech was championed by the left (not necessarily the right to it that US citizens have, but the entire concept of it). It's quite saddening to see where we have ended up. I'm holing out hope we can swing back to that, but the political division in the US isn't helping.
@@flain283 Yeah, I started out pretty young in grade school and then got hooked up with a computer group where we built and programmed our own computers (from wires and chips, not circuit boards) and some of the guys were engineers for one of the major mainframe companies and so I had access to the internet about 10 years before it was a thing.I just don't see any of this as natural
What a great interview!!! That wqs fantastic! I wish everyone in our country could hear this and think about it.
My husband and I saved for a very long time to send my son to college. It was such a disastrous time for him as he could not stand being there anymore. If you said the wrong word, a young 18-year-old girl would scream at you at the top of her lungs. He said the people there seemed like little children with angry attitudes. He felt like an old man at 17. The immaturity was beyond belief. I don’t know if he would be a great contribution to society. But, if he would have been, I’m not sure if we will know as the madness was so bad that he quit college. Brilliant young man chased away from the madness of Michigan State University.
I like this gentleman he make some valid point
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This was another good one Pat! Very sharp questions to a very smart man.
Another excellent interview, only wish it was longer.
I recently found Peter in my youtube algorithm and god damn he's good at what he does. Love the games he plays at college campuses talkng about current issues and he stays neutral and calm. Very professional dude
Thanks, Trevor. We have lots more videos that are soon to be released! Our next series (we're looking at an October release) is All Things Re-Considered. It's about NPR.
Please have James Lindsey on 🙏
Amazing interview that echoes what I know to be true! Thank you for the work you do!
I’d love to watch Peter’s video series. I hope that he’ll be posting them somewhere OTHER than Twitter since MANY of us who are interested in TRUTH have already been banned by Twitter. I was permanently banned in 2020 for sharing a link to a CPAC video.
I would ask Dr (Mr?) Boghossian to PLEASE make his video series available on YT (or on Rumble and ANNOUNCE them on YT), as a large segment of his receptive audience has been banned from Twitter.
Thank you.
Loved this conversation, thanks for posting thought provoking videos
Great interview, enjoyed all of the discussion. Peter seems like a very genuine, honest, and funny dude. The trolling articles that he and his friend wrote sound absolutely hilarious. Please have him back soon.
Great interview PBD! Would love to see one with Pete's buddy James Lindsey on these topics next!
This was great. I'd never heard of your guest but I'm going to look him up. Great points made. Thank you.
Great interview! Good for the Professor for quoting!!!
Need to get James Lindsay on next
The fourth turning book shows why it feels like we are in a weird “transition” where society is breaking apart at the seams
It was recommended to me by my mentor Jeff Gundlach yes the billionaire champ. It’s a great book!
What's a good page to skip to for the info that describes from where we are and what happens next? I have the book right here but it's not possible to get it into the reading list anytime soon, it's big. Thanks
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Your show and your content are TOP NOTCH PBD!!! THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND DON'T EVER STOP!!!👍👍👍
I really enoyed this conversation ,best ever.Thank you!
The eviction MORATORIUM crowd should all get voted out. They forced private citizens to pay rents for total strangers for 2 long years while they had to pay theirs also. The pains, the headaches that landlords have been going through are unfair. They did that just on the name of a mysterious disease that everyone had to go through.
Sounds like a ploy to force landlords to sell off their property lest they go bankrupt. And I'm guessing the likes of Blackrock is waiting to snap up the sales.
@@Malkav Yep. All for Blackrock. Part of the Great Reset agenda. All for the oligarchs to consolidate unobscured and total power.
If any service men were living rent free in housing, it's a violation of the third amendment in the bill of rights: "on the quartering of soldiers in private homes without the owner's consent"
How many of those property owners will be living in a car or on the street if people don't pay rent for 2 years?
@@ALinn-vr3nl What a shame! Who would ever thought private citizens would be forced to house strangers for free? God will judge these corrupt governors.
It didn't start just recently. It started at least half a century ago, I could see it already when I was going to an Ivy League college in the 1970s. And the media were imposing it on all of society back then, too. It's gotten a lot worse since then. It's collectively driven, by the people who went through college back then and since, and believed in it. It's been the dominant view for decades. It feeds on itself. If there were a mastermind, it would be a lot easier to fight it.
There was a mastermind.. probably few of them. But after they planted the seed they left and that was like you said 70s and 80s... But i still say parents are at fault and republicans. 99% of donations are from the democrats... what the hell are the repulbicans smoking..
Yes, there is a history of how this sort of thing happens. The universities were sacred and unique oases out side of the "business" world and offered to expand one's minds through reading and writing and exploring possibilities. I in the mid sixties I saw this beginning. I never would have guessed the actual outcome.
@@bkerrkerr3124 Sure they were. In a related story, the only ice cream used to be vanilla.
I know someone who is just now going to an ivy league and they went through a course on how bad America is - taught by a lady from China. Lol. And my friend attending is an Asian woman, so this isn't some racist lie from a white American man. Lol
@@realestateunplugged6129 Can you translate that infantile, racist, nonsensical babbling into intelligible, adult English?
Thanks for the vid, great info 👏🏽
Thank you for the conversation, Patrick!
When Pat keeps asking who is driving these things I think that's the wrong question to ask... This is generations of Marxist indoctrination in universities dating back to the 60s and the Soviet Union... At this point these ideas have become their own Leviathan and the people in the university system truly believe they are the righteous moral compass of the world. There are figureheads to these ideologies sure like Ibrim Kendi or Noam Chomsky or the squad or whoever you want to point to, but ultimately their is no clear leader only a consensus message to push commonly agreed upon narratives by most in the space aka CRT. I think this is a key point that's missed by the right and why it's so hard to fight wokism because you're not fighting a person, your fighting an idea... And it's an idea that people on the left have sacrificed and defined much of their lives by.
Same thing happened in Chile back in the 50s and 60s. It's why Pinochet took over and did what he did. Although, he should of never massacred people, he saw universities bringing the country to communism.
They hide when communism became unpopular, now they back, they were hiding in our institutions of learning. The communist version 2.5 are back
@@JustTuningIn and sadly those types of things could happen in other places in the world as this continues. Regular people can only take so much - it was one thing when this sort of stuff was in the shadows, but now we hear about it every day online, in the media, and for some of us, at school or our job. There will come a breaking point where people say enough is enough.
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I respect your answer amd opinion but adamantly oppose that this is the reason this is happening.
I think it’s beneficial for everyone to explore and research history.
Whats going on today has been planned for far longer then decades.
Research the CFR! Racism was a key element of the plan.
As parts of black history have been left out of books purposely , so have parts of white history.
If the parts of white history were in the books, they wouldn’t be able to use racism as s tool to divide.
CFR is not only in this country , who is controlling the decision making , that people think our politicians are making, but in every country.
It's also China. Everyone should go watch California Insider the episode about the CCCP infiltrating and playing off universities to steal research among other things.
What's going on in these universities is that they are milking the students money a class could be 1 semester but it will take 1 year or more and you have to pay that it's not a continuous thing they're raking it in by doing this!!🙁
And The Law does not allow Student Loans to be discharged in Bankruptcy Proceedings ...so these Students are saddled with exorbitant debt for a very long time.
@@CapriceWalker - Welcome to Sept. 2022.
What an amazing interview and mindblowing talk. Thank you
excellent content as always Pat and team !
Patrick you are a true American God-bless you.... This interview gives me hope.
There’s some things I disagree with him about but I have mad respect for him that he has taken the time to set down with Christian pastors who are seeing these ideologies creep into their congregations. Even though he’s an atheist he is concerned for the damage this has the potential to cause to the fabric of the community.
interesting :) yes
Too bad his aethism will hold him back from really believing in ANYTHING
I love your show every time I hear one I just get surprised all over at how open minded and logical you are.
Very good. I will be watching this one again
Excellent interview, he gives you hope in a world gone mad.
There is an interesting change in the dynamics of how universities interact with their students and the change in PC culture in them in the past few years
The Woke removed AUNT JEMIMAS face from the syrup bottle
@@YoungJon
GOT PROVE AND OR IS IT AS: KIM CLEMENT PROPHECY 2000~2015 SPOKE ENEMIES WITHIN 🙏 🇺🇸 🙏
I’d call it dangerous. Not interesting.
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DANGEROUSLY TO WHOM YET GUESSING FOR ENEMIES WITHIN.!.
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Eye opening interview. Thanks for introducing me to a brilliant spirit.
This is crazy good . definetely sharing and following the guy.
BRING THE TRUTH BACK AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS PROPERLY DAMNNNNZ
I was speaking with my daughters friend 20 who’s in college and now a pescatarian. I asked her why and she said since you went to college. I also asked her if she is against “toxic masculinity” and she said yes but then later argued against it.
I’ve been saying for years college is indoctrination of foolishness. I guess i was right.
The wokeness in colleges and universities has been going on since the '70's. It's firmly entrenched.
1969 weather underground. Probably even earlier..somebody taught them to think this way.
@@ginNjus Yes, Alinsky. Rules for Radicals.
Great show, Pat! ❤
Great interview!!
I think that Boghossian should have referred to the "march through the institutions," which is a very important concept. This is how it worked: A huge part of the young generation in the 1960s went to university, a much larger proportion than earlier generations. At university, they were influenced by the anti-Viet Nam War protests, Civil Rights protests, etc. As these students got their degrees and entered society, they gradually moved up the ranks in academia, government, the media, even corporations. So it's the question of a generation, a sizeable proportion of which shared the same left-wing values. As that generation got older, many of its members reached positions of leadership. So, for instance, they were the ones who taught students, hired faculty, determined who'd get the research grants, etc. That's when the jig was up.
After hearing arguments from both sides, from person or persons.. l always say let's agree to disagree, and leave it alone, change the subject, because we're never gonna agree.
or just make it to the laws :D and call it a day. ahah damn true, some stuff needs to remain more open, even though it's kinda more dangerous
Absolutely love your show!
Pat, great interview. I hope as many people as possible can see this and ACTUALLY critically think
What Peter always misses when he talks about systemic racism is he only talks in terms of the Africa American experience and ignores the Italian American, Jewish, Puerto Rican, and Asian experiences. As a Italian American I suffered tremendous racism in the early part of my life.
As I listen to this man speak so much is running through my head- excellent interview. Ironically some of the greatest believers and thinkers started as atheists- we must use and test our minds, willing to change and redirect especially when we realize we ‘are sheep and there is a purpose’. Thanks Patrick!!!
+Margaret Shultz And more of our greatest thinkers arrived at atheism.
thanks, Margaret
Perhaps the reason that the Jews of Poland and Germany have been over represented as Nobel Prize winners is because they grew up in families where education was valued as the one thing that couldn’t be taken away.
Love your Work!!!
Loved it but that pen clicking in my headphones was brutal lol
I must have drowned it out, because I don't remember it. Maybe get cheap earpods like mine😂
I must have drowned it out, because I don't remember it. Maybe get cheap earpods like mine😂
It was driving me insane as well. I could not believe that this comment is so far down!
3:40 Portland University 99% of the faculty donated to one political party... Peter- "I don't necessarily think that is a problem"
WTF Peter this is the core topic of this video.
I felt the same way when he said this
your best interview yet !!!
Excellent discussion and many reasons for concern.
People better wake up. This guy's been around for years pointing out what's happening in the academy. It's coming for all of us.
"Lenin declared and
demonstrated that a sure way to overturn the existing
social order and bring about communism was by
printing press paper money" - Howard Buffet
so... twitter likes in our case?
It really is amazing when you think about it. So many of the problems today in a decaying society can be tied back to money, plain and simple.
Ever since the government started adopting a distorted, inflationary Keynesian policy, the middle/lower class living standards have been getting squeezed repeatedly.
This very interesting and important topic! I agree with you both in the need to act against this nonsense. Thank you.
Excellent video. Needs to be shared. A good place to start would be in schools.
This wokeness really reminds me of my 1960s world where evolution was the rage. I challenged the science teacher saying that creation is outlined in the Bible. I planned to write Biblical answers to the test the next day. He told me that what's written in the Bible has not been proven. That told me not to write Biblical answers. Out of respect I just mumbled under my breath, while walking away, that his idea of evolution hasn't been proven. I passed the test by writing answers in which I did not believe.
It's refreshing to hear another rational mind coming out of Portland.
Peter Boghossian is an awesome guy, please bring him back...I really enjoy his talk...
Brilliant and insightful conversation.
Nobody should be guaranteed a job for life. You got skills, you got the job otherwise take a walk
It seems like a good idea on the surface for people from Fox News and CNN to start a new news corp that would be owned 50/50 but the problem is that both of those organizations lie so much we end up with people debating the extremes on both sides. We need to get back to middle of the road non biased journalism that just gives the facts without political commentary or slanted points of view.
Wow, a really honest and refreshing podcast 👏
Thanks
Great insight and conversation overall
Two powerful Armenians keeping it real! I am glad to hear that Peter is going to the new University in Austin, TX.
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There is either one person or a group/handful of people behind this…maybe he doesn’t know or doesn’t want to answer…
Truly outstanding interview!!
Thank you and may God bless you both
I agree 100% with Pete's breakdown. He is clearly on the money with regard to the epistemic friction between the Post Modern Social Justice crowd and traditional Western Philosophy (Feelings, emotions, subjectivity vs. objective truth) that is driving the insanity coming out of academia. But I think Pete's soft spot lies in his atheism, in his materialistic, wholly rationalistic view of the world. His world view is valid in the world of what "is" but has almost nothing to do with what "ought" to be. The root of our impending moral collapse is spiritual, not intellectual. Maybe that's fodder for a follow up conversation with Pete?
I politely disagree with your claim that the collapse "is not intellectual." I have had many debates with the SJWs. They are rude, they think that telling the truth (transwomen are men) means that the person is "I validating trans people, denying their existence, and that the person has transphobia and wishes then harm," when it's a simply fact of life that whims and wishes do not make for reality. Trans people exist, but they are not the gender/sex they wish they are.
@@proudatheist2042 " when it's a simply fact of life that whims and wishes do not make for reality."
Not sure where we disagree. What you and I believe to be simple facts are not interpreted by the left as such. The left equates feelings and emotions with knowledge ("my lived experience). They're uninterested in what you and I would consider facts because they believe the concept of factual evidence is an illegit tool conjured up by the ruling class/race in order to oppress the weak. It sounds nuts but that's how they actually think. . And that is exactly why arguing with SJW's is like peeing into the wind.
Glad the host was persistent in his question: who’s leading this and what is the endgame? Even the most outspoken opponents of this stuff aren’t asking what the endgame is. And it’s the key question.
George sorros. White genocide.
Awesome interview
This partícula episode was a 100% SPECTACULAR son too many real realities and must command this EXCEPTIONAL profesor, including a standing ovation. #Bravo #Bravo and absolute #Blessings my fiends.
Thanks for this very appreciated ultra learning curve Patrick BD 👊
PS: What BOOKS had this profesor wrote PLS? Thank u 🇺🇸
BTW, I got my answers to the book & info needed! 🙏🏻
This guy is talking about hegelian dialect. When you design the problem and the solution you control the entire chain of events. More dangerously, when you get caught fixing the game to your favor, you immediately recreate the game again without letting the opponent rightfully win.
I first learned about Peter when reading Ben Shapiros book a year ago. I literally died of hysterical laughter when I read the part of the bogus peer reviewed papers. These universities have deteriorated to communism.
I found James, Helen, and him about two years ago. It’s been quite the ride.
Great idea! Teaching critical thinking. I am getting that book asap.
good material,,,
Covid turned me into a Socrates. I question and think now, I’ve realized how the masses react rather than think. This bs is creating tons of free thinkers bc the internet in available to so many today Pat. 38:50
The Woke removed AUNT JEMIMAS face from the syrup bottle
That wasn't even her face.....smh
If they have a problem with that face, they're racist.
And he family were pissed they removed their family members legacy. A willing model family member.
I'm happy he just spoke his mind, very interesting to hear everything on his mind.
I have great respect for Patrick Bet-David as he always seem to cut to the chase. I've listened to Mr. Boghossian for 30 minutes, and still don't understand his mission here. Perhaps he rambles to help his message come together hoping to reach a final mission definition.
This guy reminds me of my college professors. He takes simple ideas and makes them unnecessarily complicated. We need more practitioners in education to cut through the BS. And, this woke movement is about money and power for one ideology. Period. Simple enough?
I couldnt help but think the same... Patrick was getting impatient
I agree completely, this is the problem
Yep John, you summed this guy up.
Theology matters.
Yeah I like the guy but idk if it's his ego or his assumption that pats viewers are simpletons but, he said it was complicated about 4 too many times