I remember a few years ago that a Philadelphia McDonald's restaurant had its water pipes stolen out of the customer bathrooms.....while it was open for business! Homeless crackheads have no morals but they all seem to have a Sawzall and a 4lb mini-sledge hammer for some reason!
Agreed. If I lived close enough, I'd definitely come do the tour! Hopefully, if they are able to do the tours during its next dry dock time we'll be given enough advanced notice to plan a trip out for it.
Ryan has become more and more comfortable in front of the camera. I am so happy that he does these videos. His work made me come to Philly to specifically see the New Jersey. A ship I had only seen before when it was off shore of Lebanon and was lobbing shells over my head. I know that the Dry docking is the subject de jure, but it would be nice one day for Ryan to talk about how one becomes a museum ship curator. His personal journey I think will be as fascinating as the ship itself.
If you're willing to talk about it, what was that like exactly? Were you able to hear those shells in the air? I would imagine being anywhere downrange of a battleship would be terrifying. Thanks either way for sharing your experience
I like the fact that NJ still have her props. I was surprised since I saw that USS Texas doesn't have hers anymore. I hope NJ's sisters still have theirs. Gives the illusion that the ship is prepared to sail even if you can't normally see them. 😊 BTW I was very pleasantly surprised on how clean and in good condition NJ's hull is below the waterline. 😊
The propellers are a major part of the ships soul. They belong in place on the ship even if they never turn again. The thought of such a majestic ship loosing her propellers when it is unnecessary would be heartbreaking.
@@jonshaffer5793 Between the essentially freshwater port, catholic protection and repacked shafts (which have lasted 30 years without issue), I think they should be just fine.
@@wxdave5448 I think it's cathodic protection, I'm guessing auto correct there but it's very funny to just picture a Catholic priest just keeping the rust at bay.
Seeing our lady out of water and resting on blocks is such an impressive sight. So glad she has her propellers still. It helps keep a small flame alive for us that maybe one day...
@@PsRohrbaugh Ya never know.... Props replaced by ion thrusters and the entire ship inside a 1G plasma shield 'bubble' and she could make it to space. Even a warp drive installed for jumps to other galaxies, or across our own Milky Way. 16-inch energy weapons could reach MUCH further than 25 miles. Some of her original crew would likely be surprised - and pleased - to see her on the far side of Jupiter. Or visiting other solar systems.
Exactly my thought and Ryan has been helping all along to show us all of the things we would need to do (shaft locks, engine status etc) in a desperate time of need against said aliens. All jokes aside, I really love seeing these videos of BB-62 in dry dock getting the attention she deserves.
I love the idea when preserving you preserve in a near running state, the potential to make function again. The ultimate preservation in my eyes is functional, and in this case, reactivate-able.
I'm very glad to see that the screws are in good condition and will likely be left on. Personally I prefer the ship be kept as intact and original to her last service period as possible. I'm all for additions such as older gun mounts and equipment being reinstalled for everyone to see but removing anything from her just doesn't feel right.
Over at USS Pampanito, the navy took our screws in the 70s/80s after we received her from them to turn her into a museum. Supposedly the original screws are still in storage in Pearl Harbor according to some of my older crew mates
Submarine screw designs are a closely guarded secret. Anytime an active sub is out of the water the screw is covered. Even though museum subs represent old tech, those screws may still be classified.
@@garywayne6083 That's not true. The Historic Ship Nautilus SSN 571 has hers on an elaborate display. And they look cool. all buffed up and kids climb on them. Perfect picture to have in front of them with family and friends.
@@4fanintexasIt used to be that almost anything out of the water wasnt allowed to be photographed... My ship was in drydock, early 90s, and i took a quick video of it one night, freshly painted and shiny, with the prop polished. Security descended on me and made me erase the tape on the spot. Funny thing- my ship was an AFS- A 30yr old cargo boat... The best, most top secret super special screw on the planet wouldnt of gotten her much past 22kts!! We normally peaked at 21, downhill, with a tailwind. And she felt like shed shake herself to pieces when we did!!😂😂
I saw USS New Jersey BB 62 in Bremerton, Washington a few ships down from USS Missouri BB 63 in 1976 and 1978 and toured her in 2005 in Camden N.J. USS Missouri still had all of her 40 mm quads covered in igloos. Also, saw New Jersey at Long Beach from a distance when being reactivated. My dad who passed in 2017 at age 92 proudly served on USS Louisville CA 28 from 1943-46 and witnessed (52) sailors buried at sea and Rear Admiral Theodore Chandler due to (3) kamikaze hits in the Pacific. (1) main gun turret found in 2016 Nevada Desert for atomic bomb detection. My dad spent about 2 months in Phila. Navy Yard putting USS Louisville CA 28 in the mothball reserve fleet. She was scrapped in 1959. Thanks again for your video!
Ryan Keep them on the ship. If ur system is working,keep it going. If in isnt broke dont fix.Its also great to hear ur system is working and it helps with future ships and its keeping.
Hi from Finland. As a aviation museum guide I say that you must keep propellers in the ship, You have to take video and show propellers to the public. I also thank you personally your interested videos and your expertice concerning naval matters!
6:54 While a cofferdam to see a prop would not be possible, how about a "Prop-Cam" webcam?? 😊 You could stream the audio of this video along with it. It would be an awesome, dynamic exhibit. Place the camera at about the same place where the cameraperson is at 7:43 (for a nice 3/4 view). While the props are stationary, the fish will not. It also gives a constant "diver's eye view."
I trust you all to do what is best for New Jersey but it is good to know the propellers in place are where they should be. Also what a treat for those taking the tour while she is in dry dock knowing they'll get such a rare view of them.
Just speaking for me, as I Navy vet ( 87-91) I would leave the ship intact and not remove the screws. I like compete vessels. Cheers, I'll see you on the 13th of April for the dry dock tour. - Wright Sublette GMG2 ( USS Austin LPD-4)
Thank you for trying to keep in good condition. We are so lucky we have people taking care of this historic ship, so that more people get to see the ship and appreciate it. Thank you to everyone involved with keeping bb Nj preserved
It is interesting to see that her outboard screws are 4 blade, and the inners are 5. I am sure this is something to do with hydrodynamics, but I was unaware of this before now. Thanks Ryan, and I agree with those who say to keep her intact.
Take a look at engine driven automotive radiator fan / modern tire tread. The fan blades typically don't have the same spacing / tire tread blocks are not all the same size. This is done so the resonant frequency is spread out over a wider range rather than vibrating heavily at one speed. Having the 4 and 5 blade props kind of accomplishes the same thing.
Naval Aviation Veteran here. I visited the USS Iowa in Long Beach before it was moved a mile and moored for a permanent home as the centerpiece for The War Museum of The Pacific. The movement was done with the aid of tugs, I'm certain the ship was fully intact during the operation and still is! The ship tour was very educational thanks to the Navy Veteran volunteers onboard answering any questions. Hospitality in abundance. Close-up access to FDR's Bathtub. Bonus! If you have an Iowa ID you get on board for free! Living in Iowa paid off again!
There’s nothing like a good preservation, a 100%. complete preservation, keep the wheels on I say!! Go Navy, Hail to the New Jersey!!!!👍👍💪💪🇺🇸💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Having the New Jersey out of the water in dry dock shows how impressive she is. From the towering hull to the huge propellers. Thanks for the videos Ryan they're awesome!
I like the idea of knowing the propellers are intact even when they can't regularly be seen. Plus having another one on land nearby. I would even go for building a replica for public display before i would remove one from the ship for viewing alone.
The underside of the ship looks very very well and I was shocked when I saw the first video of the ship and I would keep the propellers on the ship they look really good and yes in the video I saw Ryan smiling that is a great sign
I believe unless it's gonna cause damage leave her as intact as possible. Ryan thank you and all those helping to preserve the USS New Jersey. I'm glad the Iowa Class Battleships are all museums.
do a video showing the through hull ports/sea chests, im really interested to see how big the ones are for the coolers/boilers and any other large ones
The ship being in drydock is one of the greatest photographic/videographic opportunities ever. Most of this video is of the narrator, not the ship. Please, please do some videos with more footage of the ship itself. (Close ups, size comparisons, different angles, drone footage, etc.).
USS Missouri BB 63 probably had damage to her screw shafts due to grounding in 1950 in Chesapeake Bay. The one screw blade was cracked and the lower hull was ripped open.
3:00 if you ever do that special dock you talked about in a previous episode (the name escapes me), maybe one of the features of said dock (being that it's enclosed and therefore the water could (relatively) be easy to keep clean) would be an enclosed passage going under the ship's propellers, pointing towards the "cathedral". It would more than certainly attract people as it's (as far as i know) never been done before. AND... i mean, given the image at 3:00 a sight to behold. It's a massive ship, and those are massive props. It wouldn't be cheap to make, but it wouldn't be impossible. Several zoos and similar locations have underwater passages.
At South Street we were lucky; the LV87-Ambrose has a four blade steel prop. It was not hurting the steel in the stern of the light vessel and remains there to this day! TM a one time resident aboard
Leave the props on. She derserves as complete preservation as possible. It gives you an experience of what she was like in service and honors those who built ,repaired and served on her.
There are areas of discoloration at the bottom of the rudders, skegs and propellors. Is this an indication that the ship sits in the river bottom mud when the tide is out (like the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge)?
I cant wait to see how they all look after a good powerwashing! Give one a good polishing and a seal coat to keep smudge off, then have a camera and light aimed at it to a monitor on the bridge or somewhere else on the bridge so it could be viewed during the tours.
My favorite museum ship is the USS Cod gato class submarine in Cleveland. The thing I love about her is that she is as close to the exact condition she was in while serving as humanly possible, and they are constantly working towards that goal. Keep things intact.
Thanks Ryan. You may be interested to know (if you didn't) that HMS Belfast in the thames has her props still in place also. Which always bemused me. She also had to have her cathode system replaced in 2019 as an interesting similarity to New Jersey
I definitely believe she should stay intact and a complete ship. Just as she was when countless veterans served aboard. Keep up the great videos. And great job keeping this proud majestic ship alive.
I am so pleased they can stay on. To see her and know she has no props would be like going to see the Mona Lisa just to find out they'd painted over her hands. It's either complete or it's simply not right. She will hopefully stay right now. 😊
I live 15 minutes from Fall River Massachusetts where the Battleship Massachusetts has been a memorial ship since it's arrival around 1965 and have been on and in her many times through the years along with the other vessels that came along at Battleship Cove. When she went for her first drydock up in Quincy her props were removed, 1 is on display on land at Battleship Cove. She had 4 screws, the story was told the others were used on one of the Iowa Class battleships reactivated for the Gulf War during it's refit for activation.
Well. That rumor is a “screwy” distortion of reality. First the IOWAs were reactivated years before the Gulf War-to restore heavy Naval Gunfire Support capability and bring the new Tomohawk cruise missiles to sea in quantity quickly. Second. Some equipment was removed for the IOWAs from the museum battleships-mostly associated with fire control. No propellers were removed or needed.
@@KevinTurner-hr1wg Not sure what you mean by “a lot.” Would love to see your sources on that. The power plants were similar but hardly identical. I’ve never seen any documentation except for fire control computers and related parts.
@@iowa61 ua-cam.com/video/IHgKstZml08/v-deo.htmlsi=sRriX4QijVTD5jdQ. Its says what was stripped from her during this video. Maybe you don't know as much as you think.
I live about 5 to 10 minutes from Battleship Cove and yes i have been at Battleship Cove many times i am also very familiar with the Big Mamie I give just a Brief history lesson yes in 1965 there was a Huge push and fundraiser to get the USS Massachusetts to Fall River Ma as a war memorial .. Jumping ahead from 1965 to the mid 80s effetis were underway to bring the Big Mamie to Boston for a much needed restoration on her hull parts of her conning tower was remove to clear 2 of the 3 bridges the Bragger Bridge and the Mount Hope Bridge the Pell Bridge was high enough to pass underneath there was also approximate 100.000 gallions of number 6 fuel that also need to be removed all this work was done and the funding was cut for Big Mamie Restoration there was also some Dimwit Rep from Massachusetts made a bill trying to get the Big Mamie out of Fall River and Relocate her to Boston thank god the never happen ... Jumping from the mid 80s to 2000 funding was approved approximate 10 to 15 million dollars for the Big Mamie to get a full restoration again parts of her conning tower were removed and other things in November of 2000 The big mamie left Fall River Ma escorted by 8 tug's From November to March of 2001 the Big Mamie got her full hull restored I had the Grand Honor of going to Boston and seeing her in Dry Dock and walking around the Dry Dock walking underneath the hull looking at her massive 4 Propellers and rudders also the Big Mamie got extra plating put on her hull for added protection from corrosion BTW lots of photos Taken ... In March of 2001 I also had the Also Grand Honor sailing back on the Big Mamie from Boston back to Fall River Ma BTW a 5 day trip ... I can also tell you 2 of her outwared props were taken off and special Stands were made to be displayed at Battleship cove the 2 inboard pros were never removed again i took lots of photos during the 5 day trip ... i also spent every millie second exploring the ship from top to the bottom There is also a scorecard painted inside one of the 16 inch guns on how many ships were sunk by the Big Mamie paper work in the rudder room from the early 40s things Visitor's don't see .. As for other things taken off the Big Mamie and used on the Iowa Class Battleships i believe that would be True like parts of the firing mechanism for the 16 inch guns were taken off
It's amazing that as many questions as I have, there's an equal amount of videos with the answer. GREAT job you guys are doing as a museum there, all this material is as valuable as the active ship's history cause we get to "understand" how and why of a Battleship. A lot of questions must seem trivial or dumb for the trained marine personnel, but they are a fascinating to know for people of all trades, backgrounds and nationalities. Sadly, there are a lot of very aggressive, I-know-everything type of users around your socials (specially Facebook) that really don't encourage all users to participate, but well, there's a block button for that. Kudos for a brilliant work!
USS Alabama BB 60 was towed from Bremerton, Washington to Mobile, Alabama for a museum in 1964 and the (4) screws were removed to prevent drag. The longest tow for a ship at that time 5,600 miles.
Iowa class with the Double Rudders! They can turn sharper than a destroyer! In fact, the Iowa's even have a better tactical diameter than the Fletcher class of destroyers. At 30 knots the battleships tactical diameter is 814 yards, a Fletcher class traversing at the same speed has a diameter of 950 yards. Also, (2) 5 blade propellers and (2) 4 blade propellers are for SPEED!
I've heard during the battle of midway. USS Yorktown was on invasive maneuvers and she was turning so hard and sharp to avoid bombs and etc. Not sure what her speed was on those maneuvers but they said it was impressive.
All of the Iowa Class Fast Battleships were designed to accompany the Essex Fleet Carriers, both speed and maneuverability during flight ops. The Fletchers and Sumners were supposed to stay out on the periphery and search for bad guys, undersea and aloft.
How many times have I seen an old car or tractor restoration "the previous owner took it apart, and some of the parts are missing". Keep them on, so you'll always know where they are.
Bit of an odd comment, but can see the tour-guide energy coming out in this video, that's some impressively clear diction coming out for speaking at high volume! Lungs getting a workout on this one.
They didn't remove the propellers of the intrepid until it's last refit because they got incredibly stuck in the mud and they wanted to avoid that. I don't think the NJ had that issue at all.
I had to go down into that drydock during USS Independence SLEP period because I was one of the people in charge of the sea valve replacement. (Mini Ship 61)
Went to see the USS Cod in Cleveland. One of the propellers had been restored and was on display outside the boat. The water was too turbid to see much below the waterline, so I'm happy I got to see one propeller which would not have been possible had it been left on the boat. Displaying the propeller, rather than preventing corrosion, was the main objective, since she's in freshwater.
Please, the next time you do a video behind the rudders and propellers, after the outro is complete, please pan straight up so we can see what the aft of the ship looks like from underneath from that location. I love watching battleship New Jersey videos !!
I'd say leave them on with one exception - if you took them off and mounted them on a frame with the same spacing, arrangment and height off the ground they are when in dry dock, and then made that the entrance to the museum. I.e., have people walk through and under the four props as they enter the museum and go out on to the wharf. It would be a very noticeable feature to give people more of a sense of grandeur on arrival at the museum, and it would let people see just how big she is under the waterline. You'd keep them polished and gleaming - nothing like a bit of showmanship to encourage repeat visits...
Please leave the ship intact, as much as humanly possible. Extinct is forever and one alteration is usually followed by another and another until it's completely gone.
Interesting to see the mix of 4- and 5-blade propellers. I assume there’s some hydrodynamic reason for this…? Also, I hope you keep the propellers on and the NJ intact. Great videos Ryan!
We throw away enough money on dumb stuff so we should keep one of these Iowa class battleships active and sail her around as a travelling testamony to the USA's productivity and engineering skills during WWII. The tickets you would sell at ports of call would carry a large part of the budget. I've been on the Missouri and the Wisconsin and they are magnificent as I'm sure the New Jersey and Iowa are.
Like the gd worthless completely toothless and feckless paperweights that are the zummwault class? At almost 30billion blown. Imagine just half that going into the Iowa's instead. All of em could probably be sailing&in fighting shape still!
There not beyond reactivation. If u have a unlimited budget and people who study and know workings of past technology u can make it happen. But Im 99% sure they never will be.
@@justin3415 I second this, with how good the preservation appears to have been so far, and with people who served on board still alive, it is certainly possible. She was put away with the idea of coming back after all. I know a lot of electrical, plumbing, and steam systems would need a bit of an overhaul, but that’s still cheaper than building a new one. I would say she would be hampered by power output but at the same time, a lot of computer technology has become vastly more efficient.
I was fishing in the river when they brought the New Jersey up to its resting place and it was an impressive sight to see all the tugs pulling her . The wake from them made the rock jetty I was fishing disappear and I had to back off until they went by.
All this footage and hopefully some beautiful photography of the ship right now will be a great addition to the displays and museum. I think being next to a life-sized picture or diagram would be nice. Overall - knowing she still has them and she's well taken care of is the more beautiful and honored option. Semper Fortis
Removing the screws is tantamount to castration. As an old man, there is some things that aren't used anymore, but knowing they are there is comforting. Leave the screws alone.
When the aliens show up and God forbid NJ is missing her propellers, how in the hell are we supposed to get her into the fight. She would look awful silly being pushed along by tugs into battle. Not very majestic if you ask me. Please dont remove them Ryan.
Unless it's causing corrosion leave the ship intact. And thank you so much for your videos, Your commentary is very informative and even though I'm an X sailor I don't know everything about these ships and I thoroughly enjoy them.
Thanks for mentioning RMS Queen Mary, it’s pretty cool what they did and the enclosure has been there since early ‘70’s I believe ( about the time they dry docker her and turned her upside down)😁
Boy, I hadn't thought about that. Building around the back of the ship to view the rudders and screws. Cool! That is a good idea. Tides and weather would be an issue. It would help with the galvanic corrosion issue. Also there would be no need to worry about the shaft packing leaking excessively.
Will there be a inspection or maintenance of the propeller shaft seals? With merchant ships it's a class bureau item. You want to avoid oil leakage from the seals.
Like you said, unless there is damage occuring that can only be remided by removing the screws. The ship needs to stay as compleet as possible. So the screws should stay where they belong.
I would watch them carefully, Or the Philadelphia locals will carry them off for scrap, They already stole your water and left the ship on blocks!
More like the Camden locals lol, easily the worst city in America no idea why this museum is based there.
That was a good one 🤣
🤣🤣🤣 I love this one! Thanks! I needed this chuckle.
Lol, the philly block treatment for sure. Hopes he check his car often or he will be rebuying his rims online.
I remember a few years ago that a Philadelphia McDonald's restaurant had its water pipes stolen out of the customer bathrooms.....while it was open for business! Homeless crackheads have no morals but they all seem to have a Sawzall and a 4lb mini-sledge hammer for some reason!
The fact the dry dock company is letting you conduct tours like that is actually really cool.
Agreed. If I lived close enough, I'd definitely come do the tour! Hopefully, if they are able to do the tours during its next dry dock time we'll be given enough advanced notice to plan a trip out for it.
As an Englishmen I’m saddened that my country didn’t save more warships I hope one day to make the journey to America to visit at least one battleship
they should have kept vanguard, or one of the battlecruisers. the British knew how to make a good battleship. but those days are long gone
Damn shame HMS King George V was sent to the scrappers, along with the other great English battleships. Such a tragedy. Such beautiful warships!
But we didn't save Enterprise! That will always make me sad.
But you get all of the muslims you let take over Britain??????
Agree, Dreadnought and Warspite for sure. Nelson just for design.
Ryan has become more and more comfortable in front of the camera. I am so happy that he does these videos. His work made me come to Philly to specifically see the New Jersey. A ship I had only seen before when it was off shore of Lebanon and was lobbing shells over my head. I know that the Dry docking is the subject de jure, but it would be nice one day for Ryan to talk about how one becomes a museum ship curator. His personal journey I think will be as fascinating as the ship itself.
Was thinking/wondering the same. Very interested in hearing about his journey to acquiring such a coveted position.
If you're willing to talk about it, what was that like exactly? Were you able to hear those shells in the air? I would imagine being anywhere downrange of a battleship would be terrifying.
Thanks either way for sharing your experience
I see there is a ticket price for Veteran BBNJ Crew, is this for all Veterans or just Veterans of the ship?
Your right he does seem more at ease
Rare that a man has a job that he is so thoroughly fitted to do. He is perfect as curator.
I like the fact that NJ still have her props. I was surprised since I saw that USS Texas doesn't have hers anymore. I hope NJ's sisters still have theirs. Gives the illusion that the ship is prepared to sail even if you can't normally see them. 😊
BTW I was very pleasantly surprised on how clean and in good condition NJ's hull is below the waterline. 😊
He talks about her sister's props in the video.
Clean after cleaning...
Your not looking at it up close
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Its all relative. Its a sight better than USS Texas's hull.
The propellers are a major part of the ships soul. They belong in place on the ship even if they never turn again. The thought of such a majestic ship loosing her propellers when it is unnecessary would be heartbreaking.
Please keep the props on her. Gives me a warm/fuzzy just knowing they are down there.
How will it feel when shes leaking through the prop shafts? Probably no warm and fuzzy lol.
@@jonshaffer5793 The prop shafts will still exist if the props are removed.
@@jonshaffer5793 Between the essentially freshwater port, catholic protection and repacked shafts (which have lasted 30 years without issue), I think they should be just fine.
@@wxdave5448 I think it's cathodic protection, I'm guessing auto correct there but it's very funny to just picture a Catholic priest just keeping the rust at bay.
Seeing our lady out of water and resting on blocks is such an impressive sight. So glad she has her propellers still. It helps keep a small flame alive for us that maybe one day...
You never know when they might need to borrow the ship to deal with that giant alien ship off of the East Coast.
Need some AC DC music playing for the tours with the guns firing starburst timed to the line Thunder Struck.
How about if we needed a space battleship? Space battleship New Jersey has a nice ring to it.
Literally impossible
@@PsRohrbaugh Ya never know.... Props replaced by ion thrusters and the entire ship inside a 1G plasma shield 'bubble' and she could make it to space. Even a warp drive installed for jumps to other galaxies, or across our own Milky Way. 16-inch energy weapons could reach MUCH further than 25 miles.
Some of her original crew would likely be surprised - and pleased - to see her on the far side of Jupiter. Or visiting other solar systems.
Exactly my thought and Ryan has been helping all along to show us all of the things we would need to do (shaft locks, engine status etc) in a desperate time of need against said aliens. All jokes aside, I really love seeing these videos of BB-62 in dry dock getting the attention she deserves.
I love the idea when preserving you preserve in a near running state, the potential to make function again. The ultimate preservation in my eyes is functional, and in this case, reactivate-able.
I'm very glad to see that the screws are in good condition and will likely be left on. Personally I prefer the ship be kept as intact and original to her last service period as possible. I'm all for additions such as older gun mounts and equipment being reinstalled for everyone to see but removing anything from her just doesn't feel right.
Leave the ship intact in all of its glory!
There are a lot of things we cannot see, but we know they are there and that they exist and that makes us happy.
Over at USS Pampanito, the navy took our screws in the 70s/80s after we received her from them to turn her into a museum. Supposedly the original screws are still in storage in Pearl Harbor according to some of my older crew mates
I am not sure any US Navy museum sub still has theirs. 🤔 I would guess none were in a state of recall like the Iowas were when turned over?
Submarine screw designs are a closely guarded secret. Anytime an active sub is out of the water the screw is covered. Even though museum subs represent old tech, those screws may still be classified.
@@4fanintexasI appreciate the education ,I did not know this about the sub screw THANK YOU now I know this is COOL
@@garywayne6083 That's not true. The Historic Ship Nautilus SSN 571 has hers on an elaborate display. And they look cool. all buffed up and kids climb on them. Perfect picture to have in front of them with family and friends.
@@4fanintexasIt used to be that almost anything out of the water wasnt allowed to be photographed... My ship was in drydock, early 90s, and i took a quick video of it one night, freshly painted and shiny, with the prop polished. Security descended on me and made me erase the tape on the spot. Funny thing- my ship was an AFS- A 30yr old cargo boat... The best, most top secret super special screw on the planet wouldnt of gotten her much past 22kts!! We normally peaked at 21, downhill, with a tailwind. And she felt like shed shake herself to pieces when we did!!😂😂
I saw USS New Jersey BB 62 in Bremerton, Washington a few ships down from USS Missouri BB 63 in 1976 and 1978 and toured her in 2005 in Camden N.J. USS Missouri still had all of her 40 mm quads covered in igloos. Also, saw New Jersey at Long Beach from a distance when being reactivated. My dad who passed in 2017 at age 92 proudly served on USS Louisville CA 28 from 1943-46 and witnessed (52) sailors buried at sea and Rear Admiral Theodore Chandler due to (3) kamikaze hits in the Pacific. (1) main gun turret found in 2016 Nevada Desert for atomic bomb detection. My dad spent about 2 months in Phila. Navy Yard putting USS Louisville CA 28 in the mothball reserve fleet. She was scrapped in 1959. Thanks again for your video!
Keep them on! They may never turn again but keeping them on still ignights the imagination that the ship could still move. Pretty cool
I believe as long as they aren't causing any damage to the ship, that it's better to keep her intact
Leave the screws attached. THE coolest things to see at every dry docking. Some great explanation on the alternatives. Cheers from Chattanooga.
I'm in Chattanooga as well!
Ryan Keep them on the ship. If ur system is working,keep it going. If in isnt broke dont fix.Its also great to hear ur system is working and it helps with future ships and its keeping.
Hi from Finland. As a aviation museum guide I say that you must keep propellers in the ship, You have to take video and show propellers to the public. I also thank you personally your interested videos and your expertice concerning naval matters!
6:54 While a cofferdam to see a prop would not be possible, how about a "Prop-Cam" webcam?? 😊
You could stream the audio of this video along with it. It would be an awesome, dynamic exhibit. Place the camera at about the same place where the cameraperson is at 7:43 (for a nice 3/4 view). While the props are stationary, the fish will not. It also gives a constant "diver's eye view."
I trust you all to do what is best for New Jersey but it is good to know the propellers in place are where they should be.
Also what a treat for those taking the tour while she is in dry dock knowing they'll get such a rare view of them.
When I worked at Naval Ordnance, we raided the museum ships for parts when we had BBs in service....
Do NOT remove them. The New Jersey is a historical treasure and the most decorated Battleship in naval history. It should be kept intact.
Just speaking for me, as I Navy vet ( 87-91) I would leave the ship intact and not remove the screws. I like compete vessels. Cheers, I'll see you on the 13th of April for the dry dock tour. - Wright Sublette GMG2 ( USS Austin LPD-4)
Thank you for trying to keep in good condition. We are so lucky we have people taking care of this historic ship, so that more people get to see the ship and appreciate it. Thank you to everyone involved with keeping bb Nj preserved
It is interesting to see that her outboard screws are 4 blade, and the inners are 5. I am sure this is something to do with hydrodynamics, but I was unaware of this before now. Thanks Ryan, and I agree with those who say to keep her intact.
It was to reduce vibration. It was only partially successful.
Take a look at engine driven automotive radiator fan / modern tire tread. The fan blades typically don't have the same spacing / tire tread blocks are not all the same size. This is done so the resonant frequency is spread out over a wider range rather than vibrating heavily at one speed. Having the 4 and 5 blade props kind of accomplishes the same thing.
Were all the BBs configured like this?
I've heard the more blades the propeller has the more torque it has ?
@@justdeaf-ry6bn Yes, because propellers make torque not engines. 👌
Naval Aviation Veteran here. I visited the USS Iowa in Long Beach before it was moved a mile and moored for a permanent home as the centerpiece for The War Museum of The Pacific. The movement was done with the aid of tugs, I'm certain the ship was fully intact during the operation and still is! The ship tour was very educational thanks to the Navy Veteran volunteers onboard answering any questions. Hospitality in abundance. Close-up access to FDR's Bathtub. Bonus! If you have an Iowa ID you get on board for free! Living in Iowa paid off again!
I'm glad you try to keep the ship as in tack as possible.
Ryan is 1 of the greatest people I know.
There’s nothing like a good preservation, a 100%. complete preservation, keep the wheels on I say!! Go Navy, Hail to the New Jersey!!!!👍👍💪💪🇺🇸💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Having the New Jersey out of the water in dry dock shows how impressive she is. From the towering hull to the huge propellers. Thanks for the videos Ryan they're awesome!
I like the idea of knowing the propellers are intact even when they can't regularly be seen. Plus having another one on land nearby. I would even go for building a replica for public display before i would remove one from the ship for viewing alone.
The underside of the ship looks very very well and I was shocked when I saw the first video of the ship and I would keep the propellers on the ship they look really good and yes in the video I saw Ryan smiling that is a great sign
This is all brilliant stuff. Wish I was more local than the UK 🇬🇧
I believe unless it's gonna cause damage leave her as intact as possible. Ryan thank you and all those helping to preserve the USS New Jersey. I'm glad the Iowa Class Battleships are all museums.
do a video showing the through hull ports/sea chests, im really interested to see how big the ones are for the coolers/boilers and any other large ones
The ship being in drydock is one of the greatest photographic/videographic opportunities ever. Most of this video is of the narrator, not the ship. Please, please do some videos with more footage of the ship itself. (Close ups, size comparisons, different angles, drone footage, etc.).
Got my tickets today. Can't wait to come up and see her. not every day you get to see the underside of a battleship.
USS Missouri BB 63 probably had damage to her screw shafts due to grounding in 1950 in Chesapeake Bay. The one screw blade was cracked and the lower hull was ripped open.
3:00 if you ever do that special dock you talked about in a previous episode (the name escapes me), maybe one of the features of said dock (being that it's enclosed and therefore the water could (relatively) be easy to keep clean) would be an enclosed passage going under the ship's propellers, pointing towards the "cathedral". It would more than certainly attract people as it's (as far as i know) never been done before. AND... i mean, given the image at 3:00 a sight to behold. It's a massive ship, and those are massive props. It wouldn't be cheap to make, but it wouldn't be impossible. Several zoos and similar locations have underwater passages.
At South Street we were lucky; the LV87-Ambrose has a four blade steel prop. It was not hurting the steel in the stern of the light vessel and remains there to this day! TM a one time resident aboard
Leave the props on. She derserves as complete preservation as possible. It gives you an experience of what she was like in service and honors those who built ,repaired and served on her.
I love that they're in place. Like you said, you have an outboard screw on display already. Love the ship intact, props and all!
Love that view of NJ.
There are areas of discoloration at the bottom of the rudders, skegs and propellors.
Is this an indication that the ship sits in the river bottom mud when the tide is out
(like the USS Kidd in Baton Rouge)?
It’s great that the shipyard is allowing tours to occur in the first place.
I cant wait to see how they all look after a good powerwashing! Give one a good polishing and a seal coat to keep smudge off, then have a camera and light aimed at it to a monitor on the bridge or somewhere else on the bridge so it could be viewed during the tours.
"Battleship New Jersey receives operating support..." I WAS WAITING FOR THAT! It's like Kevin Hicks saying "I've built a model."
I love the USS Constellation Dry Dock Jacket!, will there be a 2024 NJ Dry dock jacket?
We've got NJ drydock gear at battleshipnewjersey.org
Yes! I can't wait to see this, y'all helped me so much with my steel battleship build! Thanks for the awesome hard work and information.
wanna help me rebuild Columbia????????????
@@rearspeaker6364 there's a few Columbia's, gotta be little more specific 😉
@@Not.The.Avg.Smitty oops!! the shuttle columbia.
@@rearspeaker6364 a space shuttle is among a build on my list😉
@@rearspeaker6364 the battleship is a very tedious and detailed build I'm doing, with functional cannons.
My favorite museum ship is the USS Cod gato class submarine in Cleveland. The thing I love about her is that she is as close to the exact condition she was in while serving as humanly possible, and they are constantly working towards that goal. Keep things intact.
I always enjoy seeing the QM Propeller in place.
Thanks Ryan.
You may be interested to know (if you didn't) that HMS Belfast in the thames has her props still in place also. Which always bemused me.
She also had to have her cathode system replaced in 2019 as an interesting similarity to New Jersey
💥 please leave the propellers on the ship. Great job guys. 👍
Please keep her intact as best as you can . Keep up the good work.
THANK YOU
We called them screws when I was in. I love watching these videos.
The politically correct would have a meltdown.
I definitely believe she should stay intact and a complete ship. Just as she was when countless veterans served aboard. Keep up the great videos. And great job keeping this proud majestic ship alive.
Leave the props as they are!
I am so pleased they can stay on. To see her and know she has no props would be like going to see the Mona Lisa just to find out they'd painted over her hands. It's either complete or it's simply not right. She will hopefully stay right now. 😊
I live 15 minutes from Fall River Massachusetts where the Battleship Massachusetts has been a memorial ship since it's arrival around 1965 and have been on and in her many times through the years along with the other vessels that came along at Battleship Cove. When she went for her first drydock up in Quincy her props were removed, 1 is on display on land at Battleship Cove. She had 4 screws, the story was told the others were used on one of the Iowa Class battleships reactivated for the Gulf War during it's refit for activation.
Well. That rumor is a “screwy” distortion of reality. First the IOWAs were reactivated years before the Gulf War-to restore heavy Naval Gunfire Support capability and bring the new Tomohawk cruise missiles to sea in quantity quickly.
Second. Some equipment was removed for the IOWAs from the museum battleships-mostly associated with fire control. No propellers were removed or needed.
@@iowa61 a lot was stripped from the Massachusetts for other ships still active and getting reactivated...Engine parts and electronics
@@KevinTurner-hr1wg Not sure what you mean by “a lot.” Would love to see your sources on that. The power plants were similar but hardly identical. I’ve never seen any documentation except for fire control computers and related parts.
@@iowa61 ua-cam.com/video/IHgKstZml08/v-deo.htmlsi=sRriX4QijVTD5jdQ. Its says what was stripped from her during this video. Maybe you don't know as much as you think.
I live about 5 to 10 minutes from Battleship Cove and yes i have been at Battleship Cove many times i am also very familiar with the Big Mamie I give just a Brief history lesson yes in 1965 there was a Huge push and fundraiser to get the USS Massachusetts to Fall River Ma as a war memorial .. Jumping ahead from 1965 to the mid 80s effetis were underway to bring the Big Mamie to Boston for a much needed restoration on her hull parts of her conning tower was remove to clear 2 of the 3 bridges the Bragger Bridge and the Mount Hope Bridge the Pell Bridge was high enough to pass underneath there was also approximate 100.000 gallions of number 6 fuel that also need to be removed all this work was done and the funding was cut for Big Mamie Restoration there was also some Dimwit Rep from Massachusetts made a bill trying to get the Big Mamie out of Fall River and Relocate her to Boston thank god the never happen ... Jumping from the mid 80s to 2000 funding was approved approximate 10 to 15 million dollars for the Big Mamie to get a full restoration again parts of her conning tower were removed and other things in November of 2000 The big mamie left Fall River Ma escorted by 8 tug's From November to March of 2001 the Big Mamie got her full hull restored I had the Grand Honor of going to Boston and seeing her in Dry Dock and walking around the Dry Dock walking underneath the hull looking at her massive 4 Propellers and rudders also the Big Mamie got extra plating put on her hull for added protection from corrosion BTW lots of photos Taken ... In March of 2001 I also had the Also Grand Honor sailing back on the Big Mamie from Boston back to Fall River Ma BTW a 5 day trip ... I can also tell you 2 of her outwared props were taken off and special Stands were made to be displayed at Battleship cove the 2 inboard pros were never removed again i took lots of photos during the 5 day trip ... i also spent every millie second exploring the ship from top to the bottom There is also a scorecard painted inside one of the 16 inch guns on how many ships were sunk by the Big Mamie paper work in the rudder room from the early 40s things Visitor's don't see .. As for other things taken off the Big Mamie and used on the Iowa Class Battleships i believe that would be True like parts of the firing mechanism for the 16 inch guns were taken off
It's amazing that as many questions as I have, there's an equal amount of videos with the answer. GREAT job you guys are doing as a museum there, all this material is as valuable as the active ship's history cause we get to "understand" how and why of a Battleship. A lot of questions must seem trivial or dumb for the trained marine personnel, but they are a fascinating to know for people of all trades, backgrounds and nationalities.
Sadly, there are a lot of very aggressive, I-know-everything type of users around your socials (specially Facebook) that really don't encourage all users to participate, but well, there's a block button for that.
Kudos for a brilliant work!
Keep the propellers on the ship!!!
USS Alabama BB 60 was towed from Bremerton, Washington to Mobile, Alabama for a museum in 1964 and the (4) screws were removed to prevent drag. The longest tow for a ship at that time 5,600 miles.
Iowa class with the Double Rudders! They can turn sharper than a destroyer! In fact, the Iowa's even have a better tactical diameter than the Fletcher class of destroyers. At 30 knots the battleships tactical diameter is 814 yards, a Fletcher class traversing at the same speed has a diameter of 950 yards. Also, (2) 5 blade propellers and (2) 4 blade propellers are for SPEED!
I was noticing the double rudders but never would have thought she could turn faster than a Tin Can. Thanks for the info.
Did you even watch the video? Ryan said all Iowa Class Battleships still have their propellers installed.
@@CJOlin Talking Rudders - not propellers!
I've heard during the battle of midway. USS Yorktown was on invasive maneuvers and she was turning so hard and sharp to avoid bombs and etc. Not sure what her speed was on those maneuvers but they said it was impressive.
All of the Iowa Class Fast Battleships were designed to accompany the Essex Fleet Carriers, both speed and maneuverability during flight ops. The Fletchers and Sumners were supposed to stay out on the periphery and search for bad guys, undersea and aloft.
How many times have I seen an old car or tractor restoration "the previous owner took it apart, and some of the parts are missing". Keep them on, so you'll always know where they are.
I can't see the whales in the ocean but it makes me happy knowing they are there, I feel the same about the propellers.
Bit of an odd comment, but can see the tour-guide energy coming out in this video, that's some impressively clear diction coming out for speaking at high volume! Lungs getting a workout on this one.
They didn't remove the propellers of the intrepid until it's last refit because they got incredibly stuck in the mud and they wanted to avoid that. I don't think the NJ had that issue at all.
I don't know, those look suspiciously like mud lines on the tips of the lowest blades.
I had to go down into that drydock during USS Independence SLEP period because I was one of the people in charge of the sea valve replacement. (Mini Ship 61)
Today I learned a new word: Macroartifacts!
Went to see the USS Cod in Cleveland. One of the propellers had been restored and was on display outside the boat.
The water was too turbid to see much below the waterline, so I'm happy I got to see one propeller which would not have been possible had it been left on the boat. Displaying the propeller, rather than preventing corrosion, was the main objective, since she's in freshwater.
Ryan has made it clear, the big girl won't be moving under her own power again.
Save some $$ and leave the props as they are.
why would they ever take em off lol.
So happy i found this page. My mom used to work for Lloyds Register
Please, the next time you do a video behind the rudders and propellers, after the outro is complete, please pan straight up so we can see what the aft of the ship looks like from underneath from that location.
I love watching battleship New Jersey videos !!
Thanks!
That view of the ship shows how massive it is.
I’m a Canadian and I want these left on aswell. It would be sad to lose any parts of a ship like this
Nooo keep intact that beautiful ship!!! Don't remove the propelers😢
Very well communicated , glad to see a knowledgeable person a part of protecting these national treasures.
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I'd say leave them on with one exception - if you took them off and mounted them on a frame with the same spacing, arrangment and height off the ground they are when in dry dock, and then made that the entrance to the museum. I.e., have people walk through and under the four props as they enter the museum and go out on to the wharf. It would be a very noticeable feature to give people more of a sense of grandeur on arrival at the museum, and it would let people see just how big she is under the waterline. You'd keep them polished and gleaming - nothing like a bit of showmanship to encourage repeat visits...
I'm curious to hear you talk about the gland packing for the screws and if they'll be restored or PM'd while she's high & dry
Please leave the ship intact, as much as humanly possible. Extinct is forever and one alteration is usually followed by another and another until it's completely gone.
Agreed!
Interesting to see the mix of 4- and 5-blade propellers. I assume there’s some hydrodynamic reason for this…? Also, I hope you keep the propellers on and the NJ intact. Great videos Ryan!
We throw away enough money on dumb stuff so we should keep one of these Iowa class battleships active and sail her around as a travelling testamony to the USA's productivity and engineering skills during WWII. The tickets you would sell at ports of call would carry a large part of the budget. I've been on the Missouri and the Wisconsin and they are magnificent as I'm sure the New Jersey and Iowa are.
I wish, it would be the best recruitment and political power flex.
Like the gd worthless completely toothless and feckless paperweights that are the zummwault class? At almost 30billion blown.
Imagine just half that going into the Iowa's instead. All of em could probably be sailing&in fighting shape still!
well, unfortunately its no longer possible to activate them anyway
There not beyond reactivation. If u have a unlimited budget and people who study and know workings of past technology u can make it happen. But Im 99% sure they never will be.
@@justin3415 I second this, with how good the preservation appears to have been so far, and with people who served on board still alive, it is certainly possible. She was put away with the idea of coming back after all. I know a lot of electrical, plumbing, and steam systems would need a bit of an overhaul, but that’s still cheaper than building a new one. I would say she would be hampered by power output but at the same time, a lot of computer technology has become vastly more efficient.
I was fishing in the river when they brought the New Jersey up to its resting place and it was an impressive sight to see all the tugs pulling her . The wake from them made the rock jetty I was fishing disappear and I had to back off until they went by.
Pictures says it all. We may need to activate it again!
As nice as it would be there's nothing for a BB to do in today's world. She'd be a sitting duck.
All this footage and hopefully some beautiful photography of the ship right now will be a great addition to the displays and museum. I think being next to a life-sized picture or diagram would be nice. Overall - knowing she still has them and she's well taken care of is the more beautiful and honored option. Semper Fortis
Removing the screws is tantamount to castration. As an old man, there is some things that aren't used anymore, but knowing they are there is comforting. Leave the screws alone.
My dad severed on BB-63 and met my mother on the 1987/88 tour to Australia!
When the aliens show up and God forbid NJ is missing her propellers, how in the hell are we supposed to get her into the fight. She would look awful silly being pushed along by tugs into battle. Not very majestic if you ask me. Please dont remove them Ryan.
I like the way you think
Unless it's causing corrosion leave the ship intact. And thank you so much for your videos, Your commentary is very informative and even though I'm an X sailor I don't know everything about these ships and I thoroughly enjoy them.
Is the battleship embarrassed that everyone can see her anodes?
Just as a neat aside, the USS Silversides in Muskegon Michigan had her propellers removed to meet the great lakes treaty conditions with Canada.
I've been aboard her years ago. Im aware they actually run the engines, will have to when that next event occurs.
USN Ret
Thanks for mentioning RMS Queen Mary, it’s pretty cool what they did and the enclosure has been there since early ‘70’s I believe ( about the time they dry docker her and turned her upside down)😁
Boy, I hadn't thought about that. Building around the back of the ship to view the rudders and screws. Cool! That is a good idea. Tides and weather would be an issue. It would help with the galvanic corrosion issue. Also there would be no need to worry about the shaft packing leaking excessively.
Will there be a inspection or maintenance of the propeller shaft seals? With merchant ships it's a class bureau item. You want to avoid oil leakage from the seals.
Very interesting, I'm watching with interest. Love the Iowa Class ships and thankful that the New Jersey is well looked after.
Propellers left in place-a big yes to that. More anodes if needed but don’t pull the props !
Like you said, unless there is damage occuring that can only be remided by removing the screws. The ship needs to stay as compleet as possible. So the screws should stay where they belong.