People unafflicted HAVE.NO.IDEA!! The pain is INTENSE and on-going!! If you ever do get a "break" (?) from the pain, it's not really a "break;" there still remains a constant state of "uneasiness" lurking, so if you want to call lurking "uneasiness" a "break" from the pain, it's not much of a "break." Please, pray for me and all suffering from this in all its forms. 🙏🙏🙏
I had it pretty bad as a child. Taking it over with my mother may have helped it subside a bit. At least for me, your obsessions pass after sometime, and maybe they’re just replaced with less intrusive, destructive obsessions. I’ve never been diagnosed though.
I've had ocd my whole life but recently became Christian which has added a whole extra layer of anxiety. I just found out the word for it. In a way it helps to know in not alone but it's been really hard lately.
I’m kind of in the opposite camp. I was raised Christian and my ocd eventually got so bad that I gradually left Christianity. I had to research the history of the world’s religions (for years/even decades) for me to resolve to myself that religions are simply man-made, not God-made. I still value the good morals of the Bible but I no longer believe in hell, or that all other religions are wrong/doomed. But I still respect Christians and don’t try to change their minds. I’m just sharing my experiences. Peace ❤
@@daveoelke857 thanks for the response. That's interesting. I could see why you would do that. So soon after becoming Christian myself, I find myself "deconstructing" my faith. I believe in the Bible but also believe there is deeper meaning to most of it and a lot of it is man's opinion. I also respect other faiths and feel like most share a few key elements. God to me is far too big for one religion. I do believe in a hell of sorts but maybe not how its portrayed. I like the work of Swedenborg. He says that we send ourselves to hell depending on what we value here in life. If you love bad evil things then you will go where that's what you continue to do, but you won't be miserable you will be happy that you are in such a terrible place, if that makes sense. But if you value good things you will go where good is abundant. I guess I'm sort of a heretic but I do believe in Jesus so I consider myself a Christian. I also plan to continue to attend my catholic church because I know she's alive and holy. That being said others can find their holy places to give the same feeling, like temples etc. I think there are many paths to the same God. Just be a good person. I find myself struggling a lot less with my scrupulosity the more I learn and become confident in my faith. I guess if anything I would consider myself a universalist. Some Christians would stone me for that but I could never ascribe to the fire and brimstone camp.
I understand. I’ve had this for 10 years and I only found out what it was 2 years ago. Mark dejesus on UA-cam has some really great teaching for Christian’s struggling with this.
I’ve suffered from this for about 20 years. I did get help and I do practice a sort of mindfulness in regards to it, but it still creeps up in unexpected ways. It’s like the many headed hydra. However, once I knew what I was dealing with, once I had named it, it had less power over me.
The many-headed hydra is the perfect analogy. A moral problem comes up. You try to find a solution, you cut off the head of the problem, and 3 more problems sprout up. It's not until you sit down and acknowledge that you can't always find a solution and that you have a hydra in your brain that will never go away -- that's when it finally stops rampaging for a little while. I had my first ERP session in therapy that I was actually able to understand and take part in last week (my therapist had tried before but my OCD was too strong to participate in ERP without medication). The relief I felt after ERP was so incredible. It was like the hydra took a nap for the first time in my 29 years of life.
I really needed to hear this, I had been thinking that I was crazy or simply depressed, but I’ve had thoughts of all that was described in this video and more for years now, and hopefully I can start to overcome it soon.
There's a great book I've been reading called "Understanding Scrupulosity" (with a key on the cover) and just reading it has helped bring me closer to breaking out of it/God healing me from it.
I’ve had this for 20+ years. Diagnosing it and getting help has made it 90% better. It’s nice to have hope and peace again. Will continue to work on it until it’s gone!
I've had anxiety nearly my whole life and I remember following a traumatic part of my life when I was a tween I had this problem. I was so convinced I was always doing something wrong even if I couldnt figure out what I was doing wrong. I did come out of it for the most part, I'm a lot less obsessive, but I still have the anxiety and I still have to work through feeling fundamentally flawed sometimes.
I have all types of OCD, and scrupulosity is one of the main ones. I feel like God will be angry and upset if I go after and manifest my desires and dreams. I’ve asked my Mom many times seeking reassurance, she said that God wouldn’t do something like that. Thing is with OCD is that it relies on other people too. I get nervous if someone disagrees with me or see something different than me. I know God is by my side and is with me. I could see something and start to think that way or that is the way. It’s horrible. Simply horrifying and lamenting
Ocd is exhausting and can take many different forms including intrusive thoughts and what’s known as pure ocd. It can cause serious depression. It’s hard to explain the control it has over your mind if you’ve not experienced it.
When I was thirteen, I went to my first psychologist appointment after my mother had caught me self-harming. I didnt know how to explain to the doctor that I needed to hurt myself to be a good person - that I had bad thoughts (intrusive thoughts) and if I didnt physically punish myself for these thoughts then I was an awful person who wanted bad things to happen to others. I was diagnosed with depression and given medication that really didnt help me. Two years later, I was forced back after a suicide attempt. The second time, I opened up. I was finally diagnosed with ocd, given the correct medication, and ways on how to cope with the compulsions. I'm 23 now. I'm better than I was ten years ago. I'm not always okay - sometimes I slip down the recovery ladder. I've got new scars next to my old ones. But I do know that Im not alone and that my struggles arent made up. And that makes living with my ocd so much easier.
I wish there was more help for this type of OCD that wasn’t focused on the religious part,, I’m a lifelong atheist so mine is purely focused on what goes against my moral and political beliefs
Same. Ironically, I'm an ex-Christian and just want to get on with being an atheist and trusting myself but I have so little trust in myself to be a good person on my own or understand what that means that my OCD keeps throwing me constant overwhelming obsessions pressuring me to go BACK to religion. Or, general moral doubts about my ability to make the right choice morally. My OCD convinces me that it doesn't matter if there are atheists out there who live life meaningfully, I will never belong or be loved or sure of myself unless I go back to Christianity. That I'll just always need religion emotionally even if others don't. I wish I could discuss scrupulosity without religion having to be brought into it.
I’m not officially diagnosed but I’ve started to see the possibility I have this subset of ocd. Mine seems to be mostly focused on whether or not I’m a sociopath. My brain has actually tried to convince myself I’m a sociopathic monster multiple times even though I don’t lack empathy and I care for people.
Same. I’m not officially diagnosed but I see where I have this same OCD type obsession with morality. It’s so hard navigating life a when objectively you have to be immoral at times to find peace, balance and happiness.
If only people knew. Never, not for a second, have J ever actually thought I was "a bad person." It's something else, but I haven't figured out quite how to describe it.
To anyone out there that also suffers from this terrible disorder: my psychiatrist prescribed me 10 mgs a day of escitalopram. I worked up slowly, from 1/4 pill a day for a week up to one 10 mg pill. This shut the thoughts off like a faucet. I offer this in the hope it may be helpful l
Pop a pilli for any problem. Big pharma is garbage, fix your problems with personal transformation and changes in diet, sleep patterns, get a purpose, do things better. Or you can pop a pilli and make the fake doctas da dollas.
I have OCD and i think this comment is hilarious. We will definitely figure out the perfect solution to all the things. "Maybe this is it....actually Yes!...wait no...ummm....not reaching a consensus...let's regroup tomorrow." That could go on for ages but i'm sure we would find the best solution eventually.
I grew up in a fundamentalist/Southern Baptist household as an only child, and it felt like I was being constantly monitored for sinful behavior by my parents and God himself! I constantly felt like I had to tread carefully, dotting every "i" and crossing every "t" with zealous precision. I think religious OCD exposes everything wrong with fundamentalism, and I wish it were talked about more!
Same here, friend. Only child, southern Baptist upbringing. Talk about growing up under a microscope. I couldn't have snuck out or gotten into trouble as a teen, even if I wanted to - but I didn't want to, because I was already tormented enough. Of COURSE someone with a past like ours struggles with overanalyzing our thoughts now. Sending you strength 💗
@@lilymulligan8180 I didn't want to sneak out either lol. For one, my friends from school lived a long drive away much closer to my private Christian school. And rebellion felt so inherently sinful that I would be panicking the whole time instead of letting loose and enjoying myself. There's a lot of things I grew up wishing weren't seen as rebellious - just teenagers having fun and learning from experience. Wishing you the best, too.
This is part of what destroyed my faith. It's such a painful disorder. I never know if I'm doing the right thing and always trying to act "normal". Painful way to live.
Whenever someone spreads fake news about my religion, I always keep checking every website or article to make sure those news are not real, even if they were obviously fake. It's been a decade since this started for me. There is no doubt in my mind God punished me with this disorder because I have no shame committing the same sin over and over again. When I tell myself it's just OCD, I ignore those thoughts but sometimes I can't tell if it's OCD or not. Sometimes I waste hours and hours reading and listening to anything that will eliminate my doubts.
One of my biggest struggles right now is fighting the conviction that "treating" my scrupulosity will lead me to become a terrible person. I've been struggling with OCD all my life and I'm afraid to find out who I *really* am without it.
The worst part of having this is that it makes me feel far from God. Most other difficulties help me draw near to God and feel closer to Him through the difficulties but when I am in constant intense fear about the intrusive evil thoughts it’s hard to feel anything but fear and far from God. I’m hoping that He can use me and this experience for good once I make it through it and I’m trying to hold on to hope but it’s just a struggle. One day at a time, trusting God even if He feels far away at the time. Our feelings aren’t always the truth
Thank you for sharing this! It's not an easy thing to find info on. My boyfriends ocd stems from his fear of going to hell. He says beacuse it's an unknown thing after death he can't take risks to test the thoughts he has. Fir example he knows that nothing bad will happen if he goes into a certain shop but because it can't be proven he won't go to he'll, he can't do it. Is this long Scrupulosity? Where can he get help? He's done therapy n counselling before but says it only works fir a certain amount of time. And he's on meds.
I'm sorry. I'm dealing with the same thing. He's not alone. I'm a gay man so I question my whole existence. It's really hard. Just love him. I know that's easy to say but he can't control it.
I had it also. I understand the torment. Jesus set me free showing me that he died on the cross for me. “I am accepted in the beloved” that’s a good scripture for him to focus on. Jesus did the work on the cross living a perfect life….we are part of a divine exchange when we say “Jesus is Lord”and we believe that Jesus is the son of God and he was raised from the dead…and we understand that Jesus was the one rejected by God on the cross. Jesus felt the rejection for us for our sin so that we wouldn’t have to ever feel that. God loves everyone and wants no one to perish. He made a way thru the cross. Some people choose another way to heaven. He is the way the truth and the life. He may have had a critical mother or father or been rejected by some in his life. But Jesus will never turn him away. When we believe that Jesus is the son of God and that he died for us to make us right with God… We come into a relationship by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is our comforter. When you pray for the Holy Spirit to come and dwell inside of your heart… That’s his job and he does it. I had this struggle with believing almost everything. I mean part of me would know that I believed but then I would turn around and say? Do I really believe? It’s really anxiety. “Jesus I don’t understand why I feel the way I do I don’t understand why I think the way I do…Lord Jesus you said that you love me and you died for me and so I’m just going to put my trust in your love and what you did on the cross for me. Your gift of eternal life is a gift that you give me through your wonderful grace. Lord help me to understand and experience your grace. Lord help me to show myself grace.” The core issue is… he needs a revelation of God‘s love for himself personally. Tell him to pray for a personal revelation of God‘s love. God gives him small things every day. The fact that he is breathing right now. Sometimes we need more than that… God knows it. I was tormented for two years… I got with some really good Christians from a group called “the last reformation” They have people on a map all over the US. Check it out online. There are many Christians there that can help you. They can pray for him and they can lead him to understand repentance and baptism. I was healed from OCD after some deliverance and some prayer. I am always seeking God… Every day… When my doubts surround me… I’m just reminded to close my eyes for a minute and imagine that I am standing in front at the foot of the cross as Jesus is being crucified. He is experiencing the punishment for my sins… So I don’t have to experience that. The fact that Jesus would lay down his life willingly and suffer for us… It was a sacrifice that God was willing to make for each one of us. Thank God for the sacrifice of his only son to make things perfect by his grace. Thanking God really is a good place to be. Lord I thank you for my sister and my brother and all of those struggling with OCD… Lord Jesus comfort them in your love. Lord my prayer is that you will give them a personal revelation of their love like you gave me. Lord Jesus we bind all the lying spirits that are coming I guess our brothers and sisters… Lord we confess the truth. “I am accepted in Jesus Christ.” And we always receive the grace of God with Thanksgiving! Thank you Jesus for your grace.
I think EMDR therapy would help him. It’s for people with trauma, and I think this condition is rooted in some type of trauma. EMDR stands for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing. Hope this helps!
It’s like being in a relationship with a toxic gaslighter. It constantly distorts your memories, plants horrible ideas in your head, and convinces you that you’re so evil that you’d make Hitler and Stalin look like innocent little bunnies.
I don't have OCD but I'm obssessed with symmetry. My current theme is word symmetry. I find myself counting letters in words and scoffing at asymmetric rules such as plural words that end in "ies" instead of "s". I just can't help myself. It really hinders my productivity.
I had a similar thing when I was younger! I don't really remember counting letters in words but you know when people put, for example, a million exclamation marks at the end of a sentence for effect? Obviously on social media and things like that, not professional things like books. Well, I would feel the need to count how many there were. This was probably when I was about eleven years old... I don't even know for sure. I don't do it anymore though.
I’m not staying in this hell I only had it for a month, but it was hellish After constant mindfulness, trusting my priest, and Jesus. I simple stopped caring I won’t care again. It comes and goes but I got better at resistance
Either way, I hope you know that Jesus loves you and is proud of you for getting over this. I'm not expert, and I also have scrupulosity, so I know what it's like unfortunately. I do think that you should try to keep a relationship with Jesus, but focus only on the positives of it, rather than being worried or upset about the OCD aspects. That's just me, though, and again I struggle with this a lot as well. But either way, I'm glad you're feeling better about it now. Have a good day.
No one single thing can define anyone. Ever. We are complex individuals, each and every one of us. The way of the world fosters such disorders and the anxiety of it all fuels it.
In my case it's my cluster B parent. My roll for him was the bearer of his shame and guilt. I shook him off years ago, but the wrong mentality persists. DAM HIM!
I feel like I want to say bad things to God sometimes but I really don't iff that makes sense and it gives me anxiety because I feel I am doing the unforgivable sin, I love God and I know he is Good and I know him.
You are not unforgivable. You're a flawed individual, like me, and God knows it and is taking care of you. You're in a safe cage. You can't fall. And the more you believe that, the less you will feel like expressing evil.
If I say I have this to the others around me, they will say that I am overreacting, and it is all inside my head, and I should correct myself for being a mistake like this.
@@lilymulligan8180 Yeah, scrupulosity is really hard. :(( It's the biggest problem in my life to be honest... although I admit the mental agony does help with inspiration for dramatic story ideas (I'm an aspiring writer).
Bingo It's not that I make mistakes It's that I AM a mistake. That I am Wrong - embodied. I never knew that it's a form of ocd. I can see the problem It angers me that I can't shake it.
@@shredhed572 My last comment on this video was two months ago, as you can see, and I was already struggling then but since then, things have been even harder... I feel like I know who I am and what I want to do better than before but I can honestly relate to feeling like a mistake more than, say, six months ago. Back then, my biggest problems were school and going to sleep rather late but during the past three-ish months, I think I've been showing actual symptoms of depression... I do think it's good to research these things so I'm glad you were able to find this video. :) I can very much empathise with what you say about not being able to shake the problem off. It's true what they say about bad habits and that also applies to OCD, I would say,
So simple "solutions" provided here make me angry. You have no idea how hard and complicated this is - it's NOT a simple issue with uncertainty - it's a neuropsychiatric condition with biological underpinnings. Look it up in Scholar.
So the point is that we should stop striving for a sinless life and except that we are all on the way to an eternal hell. Sounds like giving up to me... Jesus said not many people are going to make it to heaven. I feel that's because people are too ok with how they are or think there's only a certain amount they have to change to be accepted into heaven
Trust in Christ in his perfect righteousness , that is only pleasing in the eyes of the most holy God. Stop putting confidence in your own performance and trust in Christ alone for your salvation. We are commanded to repent and obey but that obedience should come from thankfulness of what Christ has done for you and not from trying to please God by your own works
People unafflicted HAVE.NO.IDEA!! The pain is INTENSE and on-going!! If you ever do get a "break" (?) from the pain, it's not really a "break;" there still remains a constant state of "uneasiness" lurking, so if you want to call lurking "uneasiness" a "break" from the pain, it's not much of a "break." Please, pray for me and all suffering from this in all its forms. 🙏🙏🙏
I had it pretty bad as a child. Taking it over with my mother may have helped it subside a bit. At least for me, your obsessions pass after sometime, and maybe they’re just replaced with less intrusive, destructive obsessions. I’ve never been diagnosed though.
I've had ocd my whole life but recently became Christian which has added a whole extra layer of anxiety. I just found out the word for it. In a way it helps to know in not alone but it's been really hard lately.
I’m kind of in the opposite camp. I was raised Christian and my ocd eventually got so bad that I gradually left Christianity. I had to research the history of the world’s religions (for years/even decades) for me to resolve to myself that religions are simply man-made, not God-made. I still value the good morals of the Bible but I no longer believe in hell, or that all other religions are wrong/doomed. But I still respect Christians and don’t try to change their minds. I’m just sharing my experiences. Peace ❤
@@daveoelke857 thanks for the response. That's interesting. I could see why you would do that. So soon after becoming Christian myself, I find myself "deconstructing" my faith. I believe in the Bible but also believe there is deeper meaning to most of it and a lot of it is man's opinion. I also respect other faiths and feel like most share a few key elements. God to me is far too big for one religion. I do believe in a hell of sorts but maybe not how its portrayed. I like the work of Swedenborg. He says that we send ourselves to hell depending on what we value here in life. If you love bad evil things then you will go where that's what you continue to do, but you won't be miserable you will be happy that you are in such a terrible place, if that makes sense. But if you value good things you will go where good is abundant. I guess I'm sort of a heretic but I do believe in Jesus so I consider myself a Christian. I also plan to continue to attend my catholic church because I know she's alive and holy. That being said others can find their holy places to give the same feeling, like temples etc. I think there are many paths to the same God. Just be a good person. I find myself struggling a lot less with my scrupulosity the more I learn and become confident in my faith. I guess if anything I would consider myself a universalist. Some Christians would stone me for that but I could never ascribe to the fire and brimstone camp.
Can totally relate, god is good and time is healing. Stay strong
@honey thank you! You're right, if seems to get better daily for the most part. More optimistic these days.
I understand. I’ve had this for 10 years and I only found out what it was 2 years ago. Mark dejesus on UA-cam has some really great teaching for Christian’s struggling with this.
I’ve suffered from this for about 20 years. I did get help and I do practice a sort of mindfulness in regards to it, but it still creeps up in unexpected ways. It’s like the many headed hydra. However, once I knew what I was dealing with, once I had named it, it had less power over me.
Thankfully, this is one of the benefits of a diagnosis: relief.
The many-headed hydra is the perfect analogy. A moral problem comes up. You try to find a solution, you cut off the head of the problem, and 3 more problems sprout up. It's not until you sit down and acknowledge that you can't always find a solution and that you have a hydra in your brain that will never go away -- that's when it finally stops rampaging for a little while.
I had my first ERP session in therapy that I was actually able to understand and take part in last week (my therapist had tried before but my OCD was too strong to participate in ERP without medication). The relief I felt after ERP was so incredible. It was like the hydra took a nap for the first time in my 29 years of life.
for me once i knew it was something it had me more , when it was just a brain glitch i shrugged it off
I really needed to hear this, I had been thinking that I was crazy or simply depressed, but I’ve had thoughts of all that was described in this video and more for years now, and hopefully I can start to overcome it soon.
Me too dear. But I was so fade up and one day I decided to just try doing things differently. And it worked like a charm.
There's a great book I've been reading called "Understanding Scrupulosity" (with a key on the cover) and just reading it has helped bring me closer to breaking out of it/God healing me from it.
Can you please share with me on whatsapp?
I’ve had this for 20+ years. Diagnosing it and getting help has made it 90% better. It’s nice to have hope and peace again. Will continue to work on it until it’s gone!
This is so informative, thank you!!
that blue explaination was incredibly accurate to my experience.
OCD + evangelical dogma = total nightmare.
All my freinds reading this, I pray to God for your good health and long life.
I've had anxiety nearly my whole life and I remember following a traumatic part of my life when I was a tween I had this problem. I was so convinced I was always doing something wrong even if I couldnt figure out what I was doing wrong. I did come out of it for the most part, I'm a lot less obsessive, but I still have the anxiety and I still have to work through feeling fundamentally flawed sometimes.
I have all types of OCD, and scrupulosity is one of the main ones. I feel like God will be angry and upset if I go after and manifest my desires and dreams. I’ve asked my Mom many times seeking reassurance, she said that God wouldn’t do something like that. Thing is with OCD is that it relies on other people too. I get nervous if someone disagrees with me or see something different than me. I know God is by my side and is with me. I could see something and start to think that way or that is the way. It’s horrible. Simply horrifying and lamenting
I understand how you feel.
Ocd is exhausting and can take many different forms including intrusive thoughts and what’s known as pure ocd. It can cause serious depression. It’s hard to explain the control it has over your mind if you’ve not experienced it.
When I was thirteen, I went to my first psychologist appointment after my mother had caught me self-harming. I didnt know how to explain to the doctor that I needed to hurt myself to be a good person - that I had bad thoughts (intrusive thoughts) and if I didnt physically punish myself for these thoughts then I was an awful person who wanted bad things to happen to others.
I was diagnosed with depression and given medication that really didnt help me. Two years later, I was forced back after a suicide attempt.
The second time, I opened up. I was finally diagnosed with ocd, given the correct medication, and ways on how to cope with the compulsions.
I'm 23 now. I'm better than I was ten years ago. I'm not always okay - sometimes I slip down the recovery ladder. I've got new scars next to my old ones.
But I do know that Im not alone and that my struggles arent made up. And that makes living with my ocd so much easier.
I wish there was more help for this type of OCD that wasn’t focused on the religious part,, I’m a lifelong atheist so mine is purely focused on what goes against my moral and political beliefs
Same. Ironically, I'm an ex-Christian and just want to get on with being an atheist and trusting myself but I have so little trust in myself to be a good person on my own or understand what that means that my OCD keeps throwing me constant overwhelming obsessions pressuring me to go BACK to religion. Or, general moral doubts about my ability to make the right choice morally. My OCD convinces me that it doesn't matter if there are atheists out there who live life meaningfully, I will never belong or be loved or sure of myself unless I go back to Christianity. That I'll just always need religion emotionally even if others don't. I wish I could discuss scrupulosity without religion having to be brought into it.
what kind of thoughts you have?
I’m not officially diagnosed but I’ve started to see the possibility I have this subset of ocd. Mine seems to be mostly focused on whether or not I’m a sociopath. My brain has actually tried to convince myself I’m a sociopathic monster multiple times even though I don’t lack empathy and I care for people.
Same. I’m not officially diagnosed but I see where I have this same OCD type obsession with morality.
It’s so hard navigating life a when objectively you have to be immoral at times to find peace, balance and happiness.
Psalms for the Scrupulous by Jaimie Eckert is a good read! Thanks for the video and God bless
If only people knew. Never, not for a second, have J ever actually thought I was "a bad person." It's something else, but I haven't figured out quite how to describe it.
To anyone out there that also suffers from this terrible disorder: my psychiatrist prescribed me 10 mgs a day of escitalopram. I worked up slowly, from 1/4 pill a day for a week up to one 10 mg pill. This shut the thoughts off like a faucet. I offer this in the hope it may be helpful l
Respectfully, bad idea. Each person is different; the medicine that worked for you could harm someone else, especially if they self-diagnose.
Thank you for sharing your experience🙂
I'm happy that you have found someone and something that's helping you feel better about yourself 🙂
Pop a pilli for any problem.
Big pharma is garbage, fix your problems with personal transformation and changes in diet, sleep patterns, get a purpose, do things better.
Or you can pop a pilli and make the fake doctas da dollas.
I’m on prescriptions for 3 different medications. But each person can be different. It has helped me a lot.
I m suffering from this
How are you doing in trying to deal with your scrupulosity? :)
These people should be running the govt. Maybe they can actually get things done.
Lol love this comment👏
No we shouldn’t, we still fail daily.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have OCD and i think this comment is hilarious. We will definitely figure out the perfect solution to all the things. "Maybe this is it....actually Yes!...wait no...ummm....not reaching a consensus...let's regroup tomorrow." That could go on for ages but i'm sure we would find the best solution eventually.
I grew up in a fundamentalist/Southern Baptist household as an only child, and it felt like I was being constantly monitored for sinful behavior by my parents and God himself! I constantly felt like I had to tread carefully, dotting every "i" and crossing every "t" with zealous precision. I think religious OCD exposes everything wrong with fundamentalism, and I wish it were talked about more!
Same here, friend. Only child, southern Baptist upbringing. Talk about growing up under a microscope. I couldn't have snuck out or gotten into trouble as a teen, even if I wanted to - but I didn't want to, because I was already tormented enough.
Of COURSE someone with a past like ours struggles with overanalyzing our thoughts now. Sending you strength 💗
@@lilymulligan8180 I didn't want to sneak out either lol. For one, my friends from school lived a long drive away much closer to my private Christian school. And rebellion felt so inherently sinful that I would be panicking the whole time instead of letting loose and enjoying myself. There's a lot of things I grew up wishing weren't seen as rebellious - just teenagers having fun and learning from experience.
Wishing you the best, too.
This is part of what destroyed my faith. It's such a painful disorder. I never know if I'm doing the right thing and always trying to act "normal". Painful way to live.
Whenever someone spreads fake news about my religion, I always keep checking every website or article to make sure those news are not real, even if they were obviously fake. It's been a decade since this started for me. There is no doubt in my mind God punished me with this disorder because I have no shame committing the same sin over and over again. When I tell myself it's just OCD, I ignore those thoughts but sometimes I can't tell if it's OCD or not. Sometimes I waste hours and hours reading and listening to anything that will eliminate my doubts.
Damn this is so me . ☹️
same :(
I think I might have this, but I also kind of think people who aren’t like this are the ones with the actual problem.
One of my biggest struggles right now is fighting the conviction that "treating" my scrupulosity will lead me to become a terrible person. I've been struggling with OCD all my life and I'm afraid to find out who I *really* am without it.
that’s a part of the ocd lie
The worst part of having this is that it makes me feel far from God. Most other difficulties help me draw near to God and feel closer to Him through the difficulties but when I am in constant intense fear about the intrusive evil thoughts it’s hard to feel anything but fear and far from God. I’m hoping that He can use me and this experience for good once I make it through it and I’m trying to hold on to hope but it’s just a struggle. One day at a time, trusting God even if He feels far away at the time. Our feelings aren’t always the truth
Thank you for sharing this! It's not an easy thing to find info on.
My boyfriends ocd stems from his fear of going to hell. He says beacuse it's an unknown thing after death he can't take risks to test the thoughts he has. Fir example he knows that nothing bad will happen if he goes into a certain shop but because it can't be proven he won't go to he'll, he can't do it. Is this long Scrupulosity? Where can he get help? He's done therapy n counselling before but says it only works fir a certain amount of time. And he's on meds.
I'm sorry. I'm dealing with the same thing. He's not alone. I'm a gay man so I question my whole existence. It's really hard. Just love him. I know that's easy to say but he can't control it.
I had it also. I understand the torment. Jesus set me free showing me that he died on the cross for me. “I am accepted in the beloved” that’s a good scripture for him to focus on. Jesus did the work on the cross living a perfect life….we are part of a divine exchange when we say “Jesus is Lord”and we believe that Jesus is the son of God and he was raised from the dead…and we understand that Jesus was the one rejected by God on the cross. Jesus felt the rejection for us for our sin so that we wouldn’t have to ever feel that. God loves everyone and wants no one to perish. He made a way thru the cross. Some people choose another way to heaven. He is the way the truth and the life. He may have had a critical mother or father or been rejected by some in his life.
But Jesus will never turn him away. When we believe that Jesus is the son of God and that he died for us to make us right with God… We come into a relationship by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is our comforter. When you pray for the Holy Spirit to come and dwell inside of your heart… That’s his job and he does it. I had this struggle with believing almost everything. I mean part of me would know that I believed but then I would turn around and say? Do I really believe? It’s really anxiety. “Jesus I don’t understand why I feel the way I do I don’t understand why I think the way I do…Lord Jesus you said that you love me and you died for me and so I’m just going to put my trust in your love and what you did on the cross for me. Your gift of eternal life is a gift that you give me through your wonderful grace. Lord help me to understand and experience your grace. Lord help me to show myself grace.”
The core issue is… he needs a revelation of God‘s love for himself personally. Tell him to pray for a personal revelation of God‘s love. God gives him small things every day. The fact that he is breathing right now. Sometimes we need more than that… God knows it. I was tormented for two years… I got with some really good Christians from a group called “the last reformation”
They have people on a map all over the US. Check it out online. There are many Christians there that can help you. They can pray for him and they can lead him to understand repentance and baptism. I was healed from OCD after some deliverance and some prayer. I am always seeking God… Every day…
When my doubts surround me… I’m just reminded to close my eyes for a minute and imagine that I am standing in front at the foot of the cross as Jesus is being crucified. He is experiencing the punishment for my sins… So I don’t have to experience that. The fact that Jesus would lay down his life willingly and suffer for us… It was a sacrifice that God was willing to make for each one of us. Thank God for the sacrifice of his only son to make things perfect by his grace. Thanking God really is a good place to be. Lord I thank you for my sister and my brother and all of those struggling with OCD… Lord Jesus comfort them in your love. Lord my prayer is that you will give them a personal revelation of their love like you gave me. Lord Jesus we bind all the lying spirits that are coming I guess our brothers and sisters… Lord we confess the truth. “I am accepted in
Jesus Christ.”
And we always receive the grace of God with Thanksgiving! Thank you Jesus for your grace.
I think EMDR therapy would help him. It’s for people with trauma, and I think this condition is rooted in some type of trauma. EMDR stands for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing. Hope this helps!
@@leslieyancey5084 very likely given his school life. I'll suggest it thanks :)
Martin Luther had this. In the 1500s. 12 steps (e.g. AA, SLAA, NA etc) can give you this REAL bad.
It’s like being in a relationship with a toxic gaslighter. It constantly distorts your memories, plants horrible ideas in your head, and convinces you that you’re so evil that you’d make Hitler and Stalin look like innocent little bunnies.
I don't have OCD but I'm obssessed with symmetry. My current theme is word symmetry. I find myself counting letters in words and scoffing at asymmetric rules such as plural words that end in "ies" instead of "s". I just can't help myself. It really hinders my productivity.
I had a similar thing when I was younger! I don't really remember counting letters in words but you know when people put, for example, a million exclamation marks at the end of a sentence for effect? Obviously on social media and things like that, not professional things like books. Well, I would feel the need to count how many there were. This was probably when I was about eleven years old... I don't even know for sure. I don't do it anymore though.
Maybe you are on to something, symmetry is seen all over nature and the universe.
That’s sad. I’m sorry you deal with that
I’m not staying in this hell
I only had it for a month, but it was hellish
After constant mindfulness, trusting my priest, and Jesus. I simple stopped caring
I won’t care again. It comes and goes but I got better at resistance
Either way, I hope you know that Jesus loves you and is proud of you for getting over this. I'm not expert, and I also have scrupulosity, so I know what it's like unfortunately. I do think that you should try to keep a relationship with Jesus, but focus only on the positives of it, rather than being worried or upset about the OCD aspects. That's just me, though, and again I struggle with this a lot as well. But either way, I'm glad you're feeling better about it now. Have a good day.
No one single thing can define anyone. Ever. We are complex individuals, each and every one of us.
The way of the world fosters such disorders and the anxiety of it all fuels it.
In my case it's my cluster B parent.
My roll for him was the bearer of his shame and guilt.
I shook him off years ago, but the wrong mentality persists.
DAM HIM!
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I feel like I want to say bad things to God sometimes but I really don't iff that makes sense and it gives me anxiety because I feel I am doing the unforgivable sin, I love God and I know he is Good and I know him.
Always remember that God knows everything about you so he will understand and help
You are not unforgivable. You're a flawed individual, like me, and God knows it and is taking care of you. You're in a safe cage. You can't fall. And the more you believe that, the less you will feel like expressing evil.
This is my ocd
Is it an OCD to want to be impeccable in walking the Pristine Path?
Not if it inspires, rather than terrorizes you.
The way that I look at for myself is...Does it control me against my will?
@@RustyMaddI love the way you framed this, it helps put things into perspective to be more reasonable.
Help me please help me universe take my soul set me free
Milk thistle will treat your OCD. It’s not a cure. But I couldn’t imagine not taking it. Works great, no side effects
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If I say I have this to the others around me, they will say that I am overreacting, and it is all inside my head, and I should correct myself for being a mistake like this.
You're not a mistake. :)
Ugh I've never related to a comment more. So true!!
@@lilymulligan8180 Yeah, scrupulosity is really hard. :(( It's the biggest problem in my life to be honest... although I admit the mental agony does help with inspiration for dramatic story ideas (I'm an aspiring writer).
Bingo
It's not that I make mistakes
It's that I AM a mistake.
That I am Wrong - embodied.
I never knew that it's a form of ocd.
I can see the problem
It angers me that I can't shake it.
@@shredhed572 My last comment on this video was two months ago, as you can see, and I was already struggling then but since then, things have been even harder... I feel like I know who I am and what I want to do better than before but I can honestly relate to feeling like a mistake more than, say, six months ago. Back then, my biggest problems were school and going to sleep rather late but during the past three-ish months, I think I've been showing actual symptoms of depression... I do think it's good to research these things so I'm glad you were able to find this video. :) I can very much empathise with what you say about not being able to shake the problem off. It's true what they say about bad habits and that also applies to OCD, I would say,
I think ocd promotes you act and behave like others along with intrusive thoughts to be accepted.
So simple "solutions" provided here make me angry. You have no idea how hard and complicated this is - it's NOT a simple issue with uncertainty - it's a neuropsychiatric condition with biological underpinnings. Look it up in Scholar.
I have this. I have trusted the blood of Jesus for remission of sins a thousand times. I can't stop doing it. 😢
"Astagfirullaha Rabbi min kulli jambiu oatubuilaihi La hawla wa ala quata illah-billahil aliul azim" may help.
This is about OCD. The title is clickbait. I'm newly subscribed - let's see how long it lasts.
Was it different before? Right now it's "Scrupulosity: The obsessive fear of not being good enough".
IM NOT THE FIRST COMMENT 😩 I’m not good enough
So the point is that we should stop striving for a sinless life and except that we are all on the way to an eternal hell. Sounds like giving up to me... Jesus said not many people are going to make it to heaven. I feel that's because people are too ok with how they are or think there's only a certain amount they have to change to be accepted into heaven
I know of people who deserve damnation.
Eternally? I can’t phathom that. Punishment, yes. Or bad karma, sure.
Guys please pray for me I think I’m going to hell
I prayed for you, but why do you think that?
Trust in Christ in his perfect righteousness , that is only pleasing in the eyes of the most holy God. Stop putting confidence in your own performance and trust in Christ alone for your salvation. We are commanded to repent and obey but that obedience should come from thankfulness of what Christ has done for you and not from trying to please God by your own works