He Died In 1917 Of Pneumonia After 3 Months In The Army | Shady Grove Baptist Graveyard
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- On this adventure, Cecil and I are still in Marion County, Georgia, this time visiting the Shady Grove Baptist Graveyard. Among the many graves, I am particularly captivated by the headstone of Private Ira Benford, who died in 1917 of pneumonia after just under three months of service in the US Army. According to his headstone, he died at Camp Wheeler in Macon, Georgia.
Camp Wheeler was an army training camp named for Confederate Lt. Gen. Joseph Wheeler. It was established in 1917 and closed in 1919, then reopened during 1940-46 for World War II training purposes. The camp played a significant role in training soldiers during both world wars.
Join us as we explore the Shady Grove Baptist Graveyard, read the headstones, and reflect on the stories they tell. This video offers a poignant reminder of the sacrifices made by those who served and the importance of preserving these historical sites.
Part 3 of a Marion Co Georgia cemetery tour Cecil and I did. Previous video featuring another Camp Wheeler casualty: ua-cam.com/video/WqmSAIRfqQo/v-deo.htmlsi=OU5aHNElM2b-Bcfp
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During WWI 53,400 American troops died in combat and 45,000 died from diseases, mostly Spanish flu.
As always, many things of interest found in this cemetery - a cemetery is the last stop of history. Here is information on Camp Wheeler deaths; Fourteen of the largest military training camps including the training Camp Wheeler had reported influenza outbreaks in March, April, or May, and some of the infected troops carried the virus with them aboard ships to France in WWI. The bulb flower - I find it anazing that the gladiola is still blooming, it has to have been there for more than likely over 100 years. Still used for funerals, in Victorian times it symbolized remembrance and strength of character - and is still used for funerals today. That gate definitely does not match the fence, curious. Enjoyed!! Thank you, Cecil and Robert - as always, your efforts in documenting and remembering souls are much apreciated.❣️❣️👍👍
Good info thanks
Very serene feeling from this cemetery. I really enjoy these walks through the graveyards and chronicling who's buried there. Thank you, Robert and Cecil, for remembering these people.
He probably actually died of Spanish Flu. Thousands of our servicemen did.
Or maybe pneumonia as a complication of it, too
1917-1920 was the time of the great flu epidemic in this country. It has been traced to the probable place in France in WWI where they were raising hogs and geese together for food for the troops. That's what the evidence points to. The flu hit the GIs particularly hard because there were many farm boys who had grown up in rural areas and had not developed resistance to other strains of the flu that more urban kids had been exposed to. Camp Devens, Mass., was one of the epicenters of the disease in the army where up to 100 soldiers a day died of pneumonia brought on by the flu. I attended electronics school at Ft. Devens in the late 1960s and I found an old grave yard for German POWs who had died of the flu, or that's what I was told had happened to them.
It's the hand etched markers that always melt my heart. You know they were done with LOVE....thru TEARS.
Greetings from Belfast, Northern Ireland to Georgia. So many people left here in the 1700s and ended up in places like Georgia. Its estimated that some 27 million Americans are descended from those early Scots Irish settlers.
And that is one reason the Southerners were great soldiers! Thank you.
@@suzanneflowers2230 there was so many known as William they became nicknamed Hill Billies (rather derogatory if you ask me). And guess what my dad and grandad are called lol 😆
I’m one of those 27 million and proud of it!
Hello Northern Ireland! my grandmother is from Castlebar Mayo County.
My gg grandfather Andrew Gillen came to America in 1838 from County Derry Ireland! He was a drainer by trade and lived to be 94 yrs old! A drainer is basically a ditch digger, he would dig ditches to drain people's bottom land! He once had a lady that wanted to cross a ditch he was digging and he told her to step into his shovel and hold on to his shoulder and he would put her across the ditch!
I am really enjoying this tour of cemeteries with Cecil. These are some amazing places with so much history. The forgotten military graves are always hard for me - our veterans have a special place in my heart. So thankful that Cecil, Dan, The Other Robert, and you give recognition again to all of these forgotten souls.
Thanks for sharing, the Hanners are my ancestors! Never seen their graves before.
Very cool!!
I almost died from pneumonia after a couple of months in the Army at 18 years old at Ft Gordon GA way back in 1962. Finally recovered after three weeks in the hospital. Finished my three-year enlistment.
I spent a very hot couple of months at Ft Gordon in July and August of 1977. It's where I learned to climb telephone poles! I believe it's now been renamed Fort Eisenhower.
I remember the first couple of weeks of Basic, it seemed like everyone got sick. Crowded in an open bay, people from all over the US being exposed to various germs. Glad you recovered.
@@Arthur5260 THANKS I went in August, HOT......standing and running in the rain I think had a big part in it. Wasn't getting any better in the hospital and Dr's told me if things didn't improve by the next day I would be flown to Walter Reed Hospital. Next day.....feaver broke.
@@dabprod sounds miserable.
@@Arthur5260 It was.
Great video Robert! I always appreciate how sensitive you and your friends are to these folks. Our Camp Wheeler soldier and the other one you documented probably died of Spanish Flu, like you were thinking, not pneumonia. Pneumonia was one of the universal misnames that all WWI armies gave to those that lost their lives to the disease, and the armies didn't want the public knowing this. The war was the main spread of the problem, most likely, but admitting this would create huge division between the people funding and fueling the war! The Spanish were the only ones to keep a record of its spread in their country and that's why it's called the Spanish Flu. Spain, who was a neutral country, had one of the least casualty rates of the disease as well. I am very appreciative of all our Armed Forces who keep me free! I'm just saddened by those who left us in ways like this. I wish all of our veterans and their families a happy Memorial Day! 😊
My grandfather was trained at Camp Wheeler for WW1. He was in the 31st Infantry Division, aka Dixie Division.
So sad that he died so soon after joining. I wonder if it wasn't pneumonia per se but an early version of the Spanish Flu, since it came about in 1918 from soldiers returning from Europe during WWI. It could have began in 1917 from soldiers he associated with. We will never know.
So many stories can be told when you visit a gravesite.
So sad to see the stones of these twin brothers in their early twenties dying within 18 months of each other.
Can't imagine the grief their parents felt
I am fiddling "Swinging on a Gate" on my Violin.
Hello from Brunswick, Maine, US. Saturday, May 25th, 2024.
Really peaceful seeming place. Interesting history and some lovely headstones. Pvt. Bedford's stone was very cool and would be wonderful if it could be reset. I really loved the design and details on those two little heart shaped children's stones. The ironwork on that gate really was amazing. Definitely a cemetery that would have been fun to photograph in. It feels so quiet. But, there is still some white showing on your truck, Robert, so y'all better get on to the next one!
Props to Cecil for sending out a pic of the grave and for wanting to get permission to repair it.
What a beautiful cemetery...thank you again Cecil Young for showing Robert and us. On to the next :)
Thank you for sharing. Love watching your cemetery segments. I find them so interesting keep up the wonderful job.
The names on the headstones in the silent city increase as the years go apace, and the men and women, who did their part in the raising of an empire in this section sleep their last long sleep….By Unknown
The flower was a gladiolus
Central Officer Training School? Maybe Fort Benning?
Camp Wheeler was named after A lieutenant general for the Confederacy Joseph Wheeler 31st Infantry Division also known as the "Dixie Division" Camp Wheeler National Guard Mobilization and Training Camp that trained troops from Alabama, Georgia and Florida from 1917-1919 108 Soldiers died of various diseases The number one cause of death was pneumonia, followed by meningitis, empyema, measles, and tuberculosis.
The Spanish Influenza weakened its victims and opened the door for other infections! Pneumonia was a common secondary infection and killer of the Influenza victims 1917-1920.
What a beautiful day in Georgia. The cemetery looks like a nice place to picnic.
Thanks again to Cecil for finding this cemetery and for following up on its history it was a very interesting video thank you so much for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it!
Robert I totally agree with you as to document and take picture of all those concrete headstones due to the wear of them and at some point you will no longer be able to read them at all. At least this cemetery is semi cleaned up to where you can at least walk around it and find all those laid to rest there. Great seeing you and Cecil together there. Thanks to both of you for this video. Appreicated..
I have watched several of your cemetery visits. When you mention "getting permission," is that permission from family members or a local agency?
Usually when he mentions getting permission, the cemetery is on privately owned property and he gets the property owners permission.
WOW! Another great adventure, thanks Cecil & Sir Robert.
Thank you, I love getting to see these places I would otherwise miss.
Thank you Robert and Cecil for sharing this beautiful cemetery ❤
Beautiful place, Robert. Thanks to you and Cecil!!
Spanish flu hit Camp Wheeler around 1917-1918. Many soldiers died.
My grandmother's brother ran away from home and joined the army during WWI and was sent to France where he died from the Spanish Flu. Don't know if he went through Camp Wheeler. He is buried in Flanders Field.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful cemetery with us.👍👍
Fun fact: if it’s attached to a church it’s called a graveyard. If it’s not it’s called a cemetery.
A graveyard is a cemetery, but not all cemeteries are graveyards 😉
I learned that from these videos 😊
Lovely place 🎉thanks for sharing..
Think the fence that went with that beautiful gate is long gone.
Looked it up. The Spanish Flu Hit camp Wheeler in the spring 1918.
I really enjoy your videos and learning the history of your area. Considering the number of cemeteries you've uncovered just in your area, it's mind boggling how many they're must be across the country.
That ia a gladiola. Mine are up but not blooming yet.
Thanks to you and Cecil for another interesting video.
I knew Wheeler was a training base and the extra work to gather the facts of his death doesn't leave unanswered questions. My suspicion is was in boot camp and didn't want to be the weak link by "complaining" of being sick. My basic graduation was delayed because of the one person who was, "... okay. I swear" (infectious meningitis).
I grew up in northern Wisconsin. There was a small library in town and it had a big thick book published in 1921 on the history of the county. There was a section on the "Great War" - we call it World War I - and biographies on every man from the county who died while in military service during WWI. There were 110 in all who had died. Ten died either in the fighting, or by accident (two hit by trucks), one by appendicitis, one "disappeared". The other hundred all died of influenza or pneumonia.
Sending this email from Leeds West Yorkshire England, interesting video. My late Dads older brother and Sister tragically died of the flu, Clara aged 13Months in 1918 and Stanley aged 11 months 1919. 🎉🎉
Thx guys for doing this, filming it and sharing it with us.
Intrigued by COra Ohern, born 1896 as Cora Culbreath mrd James Evan Ohern before she was 14, son H Foy Ohern 1912 and possible son James b 1922
James died in 1957 ,buried in Sumter county, Foy died 1971, brd in Hall County
James sr b 1880 - 1957, James Jr ??
This was very interesting and I have enjoyed it. God bless you both 🙏❤️
Love your videos and enjoy watching them. May the lord bless and protect you Robert and Cecil bringing out the past history
I enjoy watching these adventures. Calming and relaxing to me. Thank you ❤️
Great video as always, thanks for sharing Robert!
Very interesting as always. Ty. God bless you all and your family’s .
Would that have been a death during WWI? At Forth Wheeler- sounds like a military camp.
Awesome just so you know next time that red flower the tall one was several one flowers on it that's a gladiola
Always interesting ✨👍
There are some common dates of death on some of those headstones. I think a mother and child and also the two brothers who died the same year at the same age (maybe twins?).
You all are such a blessing to me and many others. I am working and have been for years on my family genealogy and so interested in this. Do you all go up under Atlanta. Can't think of the town right now but now in Atlanta at all. My great grandfather's family was there. It is Bellamy and Longhurst.
says they had an outbreak of mumps 1917 thru 1918, every 3rd man there got them.
Kool place Robert...
Texas must be sending y'all their skeeters!!!
I've seen more mosquitoes this year than any other time in my life and i'll be 67 this year, hmm, something is going on.
Robert is the only person I know who can touch a grave covered in poison ivy then touch his face 😅
Thanks Cicil and Robert!
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Thank you for answering my question so soon 😂😂 i want to walk the trail
🙂Thank you Gentlemen...so nice to visit these places of rest with you,always reverent and respectful. Have a memorable Memorial Day 2024. I would present the star and stripes here but they have removed the flags from emojis,curious. Love from Ky.
I’ve got it on my iPhone - 🇺🇸
And thank YOU!
wonder what happened to the church and why it disappeared. seems as tho it mustve had a lot of people attending at one time since it had a cemetery
Come to Fla and see the size of the mosquitoes here!!!!
Come to Maine. Our mosquitos have teeth.
Thanks Ceicl and thanks Robert
Camp wheeler, Macon Ga.
Those two hanner boys were twins.
What happened to the other Robert
He’s been busy, some OR content coming soon tho
Go to the Mississippi Delta Robert and also it has a college there it’s Delta State University and it’s a very well known college and it has tripled in size and steady growing it’s located in my hometown Cleveland Mississippi
Hey does Cecil have a channel?
thanks for the walk around
My father was stationed in Junction City Kansas in 1969. The mosquitoes were so big they were carrying me off, I was only 5 at the time. Dad knocked them down with his shotgun, he dressed them, and mom baked them golden brown for dinner.
cen off - central office
Those are Billy Gates mosquito don't get bit!!!! Thanks guys. Love and Light!
I believe it means Central Officer Training School, could be Commanding but I don't think so
This Cemetery was used as a training ground for WW2, so disrespectful to those buried there, especially those who were killed in a war. Let those who have past to rest in peace ❤
Heard of Dran name before.
Diane- oops!
❤ Hobart Tasmania Australia 🦘 watching,love your videos 😊
The guy from the boring channel…cleans up cemeteries. I believe he is from GA as well.
Never seen it, I’ll have to look
Beautiful little cemetery. So quiet and shady. I'd like to be buried in a place like that.
Very interesting. I love the cemeteries you've been visiting.
You guys are awesome, you have helped find another family in Henry Nolan Hanner. I connected somehow to his Chappell side.
That’s awesome!
Thanks!
Thank you!
Wonderful clean up ,great work
“Spanish flu”
So interesting down in GA.
Thank you boys
Camp Gordan was in Augusta Ga, not Atlanta...
When the United States entered World War I in 1917, the War Department established a series of sixteen temporary training camps around the country. Chamblee, north of Atlanta, was chosen as the site for Camp Gordon, named for former Georgia governor and U.S. Senator John B. Gordon. Opening in July 1917, the camp was the largest construction project in Atlanta’s history at that time. The site’s 1,635 buildings contained barracks for 46, 000 men, as well as accommodations for over 7,000 horses and mules. Camp Gordon served as the birthplace and training facilities of the 82D “All American” Division, an airborne infantry unit of the United States Army. The division played an important role in the Battle of St. Mihiel and Meuse-Argonne Offensive on the Western Front, the latter brought the war to an end. The camp also served as a base hospital for the Emory University Medical Unit. Referred to as the Emory Unit, the group trained at Camp Gordon for several months before deploying to Blois, France in 1918. Camp Gordon was demobilized in 1919 after the end of the war, and abandoned by 1921. During World War II, the Naval Air Station Atlanta occupied the site. The 82D Division was reactivated and served in Europe as the 82D Airborne Division, and the Emory Unit operated as General Hospital 43 in North African and France. Since 1959, the site of Camp Gordon has continued to be used as the DeKalb-Peachtree Airport.
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Um……. Content creators have no control over how UA-cam recommends things, so you’re wrong on that one 😂😂😂 Weird comment tho regardless
Actually please explain how I’m horning another channel into your feed, cuz I’m dying to know 😂