Stop Carrying 3 Rods Each Time You Go Out (Do This Instead!)
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Here’s how to set up one rod to be a marker float rod, a leading rod and a spod rod.
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For years, I've been carrying around a spod rod, a marker rod and a separate leading rod. That's three rods doing three different jobs. There’s a way to simplify this setup and to go from three rods to just the one.
In this video, I’m going to show you how to create a leading rod, spod rod and marker rod with one setup that can be swapped in seconds to change from one job to the other. It’s less gear to buy, less gear to carry and less gear to maintain.
⏰ Timecodes
00:00 Introduction
00:17 Rod and reel setup
00:56 What line to use for this spod/marker combo
01:17 How to create a spod/marker combo
02:10 How the leading rod setup works
03:38 How the marker float setup works
06:13 How the spod setup works
To achieve this setup, you can use your existing reels, rods and spod but you’ll need a specific marker float and that’s the Nash Spot On. This particular marker float allows you to use a braided leader and it’s the braided leader that makes this multiple setup possible.
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I got the idea for this marker/spod setup from a guest at Beausoleil who was using the double loop trick which made popping his spod on and off really easy. After a good chat I realised how I could dramatically simplify my carp fishing. This setup can save you hundreds of pounds on gear and make you a more mobile angler. I’ve used the Nash Spot-On marker float. It may be possible to do the same thing with another marker float but that’s not something that I’ve had the time to explore yet. Perhaps one of you guys has already got an easy switch system that works well, if so, feel free to share!
The double loop trick is how many pole fishing anglers attach and easily detach their rigs to/from a dacron connector. Interesting to see it being employed in a second discipline.
@@KotoBish I wasn't aware of this technique, good to know! I got the idea from a guest. I think there’s lots of room for the integration of tricks and techniques from other disciplines.
@@matthewcollinsangler here's one example video for pole fishing - start at 50 second to get straight to it. Personally with pole fishing I often cut the small loop to leave two single strands. This prevents getting the small loop snagged on margin weeds/reeds etc, which can unintentionally release your rig and potentially lose a fish who would be trailing a full rig. Don't think that tweak is needed in carping 😂
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Superb videos as a tench angler I’ve discovered so many useful tips from your videos obviously aimed at carp fishing but still translatable on scaled down gear this loop to loop idea is a game changer at least one or two less rods to carry around
I started off as a coarse/match angler and it's great that we can share ideas from other angling disciplines. Appreciate the comment 👍
love how simplistic and easy you make tutorials for us, keep up the good work
Thanks very much mate, that's really great to hear 👍
Thanks Mr Collins, only goes to show there's always something to learn from others even after carp fishing for 30 + years. Keep the information coming. Pull out a fat one!
Every day is a school day for me, the learning never stops! 😊
Damn! A second loop of course!! Thanks for sharing , top tip
I felt the same when I saw one of my guests use it !! Glad you found it useful too 👍
Just exactly what I have been looking for! Thank you!
Great to hear mate! If you're interested, links to all the items I've used for this setup are in the video description 😊
Can’t stop watching these videos , learning all the time , thank you Matthew fantastic stuff 👍🎣
Thanks very much!
Thanks for the knot advice I’ve tied it and tried it on the spomb this morning
OK cool, good to hear it's working for you 😊
Been doing this for several years. Works really well 👍
Hi Wayne, thanks for commenting. Great to know it's working for you already, I got the idea from a guest here! Cheers, Matt.
Been doing this for ages but it’s so simple but so affective. But I’d still want two rods 👍👍
Good to hear, this was quite new to me!
Brilliant idea, ill do this for sure. cheers Matthew
Great, glad you enjoyed the tip 👍
Great concise info... Thanks
Thank you Michael 👍
Wish I had this marker float now and not a fox one 😢
Excellent
Awesome thanks 🙏
You're welcome 😊
Just seen this, great video Matt
Thanks for inspiring me mate 😉
Another awesome vidoe
Thanks very much mate 👍
Those Nash floats eliminate the need to use a buffer bead which has up until now stopped me from using this loop system with my marker float as the buffer bead wouldn't allow the knot to pass through, I will definitely be purchasing one.
Yes that’s right no buffer bead with the Nash Marker floats. They do two sizes. I only have the small one but I think next time I’ll buy the larger one as it will be better suited to the type of work I do. It’s a small price to pay to get massive benefits. Cheers, Matt.
Thanks Matt 👍
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Loop to loop works well if you want to change from a-marker float to a spot or spot to a rig
I literally just but a pike snap swivel on the end then just clip on what I need.
doing it like that for years, but still carry a second spodrod for fishing deeper lakes, i cast to my marker to make sure im on it.
only problem i have is that i wreck my marker floats with my lead while casting. hadnt figured out why yet. tried using a stem longer than the float, but still happens (not so often anymore)
that Nash Float could solve that, maybe try that one
OK cool, I got the idea from a guest here 😉 Not sure why you’d damage marker floats just by casting them TBH?? I’ve had the Nash one for a good few months now, used it loads and it’s as good as the day I bought it. Hope that solves your problem! Cheers, Matt.
Dam I've been making my own and for my mates homemade marker floats. The dart flight type, with a stainless split pin at the other end. I'll have to re-design it now lol.....More work. ps like the idea of cutting down on carrying tackle.
Sorry about that! 😊
High matt. Love your videos btw. So much knowledge! Do you have a video about spooling up? If so, could you link me please? Thank you for a great channel.
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and I’m glad that you like our work 😊. Yes, we’ve done a few videos on spooling up. Nothing specifically on braid. Here’s a few links for you: ua-cam.com/video/4Ub64QWEF9c/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/9zP5SIjt9oA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/pf1m8FJIP6k/v-deo.html
Hope that helps!
Cheers, Matt.
Funny you mention how hard it is to pick out a braid girth hitch. I made some hair rigs using braid. On one end end is a large loop to girth hitch to the method lead swivel. Well the girth hitch is so tight I just end up cutting the loop. But this jibes me an idea to tie on a small loop of dental floss. Thanks.
Cool 👍
Great,informative video as always Matt.
Out of curiosity,as you fish rivers as well,have you seen the new Korum Bopper ? A cross between a spomb and a bait dropper. Looks pretty good for getting bait straight to the bottom in deep and or fast flowing water. As I don’t fish big rivers anymore it’s not something I’d need. Dot spod is more than enough. Just thought it may interest you. Keep up the great content and look forward to the next video.
Hi Darren, glad you enjoyed it. I did see a post on the Korum Facebook page about that and I did wonder what it was about. Thanks for telling me about it, I’m not sure it applies to my river carping. I just use a throwing stick to bait over a wide area at range, it’s quick and easy (much faster than spodding) but an interesting product.
Hi matt another great video. If spodding would you increase the leader to 50lbs?
Hi mate, that’s a great question. I have tried the Nash 50lbs braided shock leader. The trouble is the leader knot is quite large. That’s not a problem if you have large diameter rod rings but if not you can get frap-ups due to the knot. I don’t do much spodding myself but I’m sure the standard 30lbs leader will be fine. PS. don’t get fooled into thinking that you don’t need a leader because the Nash spod marker braid is 25lbs (0.18). The braid is very thin which makes it great for long distance casting and marker float work but it will easily snap under heavy casting loads because of the low diameter. The 30lb leader is larger in diameter and designed for this exact purpose. Cheers, Matt.
I wish I had 3 functioning rods 😂
Been doing the double loop for years and I only use/own the one rod. It's been all 3 jobs fine for the last 10 years or so. Who makes the maker float Mathew? I used to just use a big bead but now I use my zig boom like in your video.
Hi mate, good to know this method is working for you already. I picked up the method from a guest at Beausoleil lol. This is the Nash Spot-On marker, available in two sizes. I used the smaller version in this video. I’ve been using it for quite a while now and get on very well with it. It bobs up every time on this setup which is really important to me. Nothing worse than having to re-chuck because the float is frapped up. I find the boom helps with getting the float up reliably when the bottom gets a little softer. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matthew had more success today with your mono rig and running lead setup. I understand the hook bead kicking out the hair as in the video, but what limits would you recommend on catches per rig? As I reused the same rig several times even though the hair was kicked out even more. Cheers
Hi mate, glad that it’s working well for you. One of the great edges of this rig is that because mono is cheap it will only cost you the price of a hook to bin the rig. This might sound crazy but my advice is to only use a rig once (catch or blank). Carp hooks damage really easily and a blunt hook won’t catch you anything! Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler cheers fella
Hi Matt, I have a question concerning the braided main line and the braided shock leader. What is the strongest/best connection between the two, since I know you like to test the strengts of the knots I was wondering how you did this. I was trying to find it on google, but I saw some differences in knots, so I thought I'll ask someone I really trust with this stuff. Also adding to that could I use Spiderwire Stealth Smooth for this? It has a breaking strengt of 39lb at 0.19mm.
Cheers!
Hi Yordi, there are a few options but I like to use something easy, strong and reliable like the back to back grinner knot. Try 5 turns on the leader side, maybe more on the thinner (7). What’s really important is how you tighten it. You need to wet them and pull really hard. Use some round smooth rods to wrap the braid around. Do not slip or you will hurt yourself bad! It should be very hard to break. If it breaks too easily it wasn't strong enough. Spiderwire is good stuff, I’ve used it myself. You’ll still need to add a leader like the Nash braided leader. Don’t be fooled by the 39lb rating on the spiderwire. Its knot strength is 50% of that. Likewise ignore the 30lbs rating on the Nash leader. It’s thicker and therefore stronger than the spiderwire! Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Hi Matt thank you again for the advice, I have the 30lb Nash braided shock leader and although i am having trouble finding the diameter of that anywhere, I went for the 0.29mm (70lb Spiderwire) braid to go with that. It seems to be quite even in thickness which I was basically looking for to make it as natural and smooth as possible. I will be using it for the same 3 purposses as you have in this video and just as you (in general), I will be fishing on really small park waters here in the netherlands so I won't need to cast as far as some other people might, at least for now ;p Oh I almost forgot! I will certainly use the back to back grinner knot, make sure its tight solid and trying to not cut my fingers in the progres haha :) Have a great summer of fishing :)
Cheers, Yordi
@@yordisanders9859 OK cool. Yes they don’t state the diameter of that but it’s probably around that kind of diameter so you’ll get a small knot and a smooth transition. Yes, for god's sake don’t slip! Braid cuts really sting lol. Enjoy, Matt.
Hi the Daiwa emcast spod and marker rod, 4.5 test curve. Is on offer for £60 from £200 so seems a bargain. I’ve never done any of the above as just starting. Would this rod be fine to do all three like you have shown? This will save a lot of money. Great video again
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Hi mate, I’m not familiar with the rod but I’d say it’s going to be very heavy in the hand. If you’re a big strong guy and want one rod to do it all and be able to spod at 100 yds, then sure it’s an option. For simple leading around, you’ll find it heavy and cumbersome and very tiring. It also depends what range you’ll be fishing. Difficult to advise without knowing more… I use a 10ft 3.5lb rod for spod/marker, it’s very lightweight and easy to handle. Good for 90+ yds. It’s the Nash x350 series, on sale on angling direct for £67. As you’re just starting, it’s a much better choice in my opinion.
Hope that helps.
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks again for the useful information, much appreciated
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If I'm using 30lb braid mainline how strong should my braid leader be?
Hi Liam, the trouble with all types of fishing lines is that everyone focuses on rated breaking strain. What’s actually more important is the actual diameter of the line. For example I use the nash spod/marker braid which is rated at 25lbs and for the leader I use their 30lb braided leader. It’s easy to say, why bother right? 25lbs isn't that much different to 30lbs right? Why don’t I save the money and not even bother? The thing is that the Nash spod/marker braid is only (0.18mm) diameter. This is great because it’s very fine but if you put it under under any kind of casting load it will fail at the spool. The Nash 30lbs braided shock leader is much thicker. They don’t quote the diameter and I don’t have a tool that would accurately measure it but I would say it’s closer to 0.35mm. This makes it a good choice for absorbing casting loads and it will join nicely to the 0.18 mainline. I tried their 50lb version and I found (on my rods) the knot was too large and clunked through the rings. So to answer your question, have a look at the diameter of your 30lbs braided mainline. If it’s thin (which I suspect it is) then I would add a dedicated 30lb braided shock leader like the Nash one. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Cheers Matt, I've been searching for an answer to that question. I have the 30lb nash leader on the way. I'll be sure to compare the diameters when it arrives. Thanks again.
@@LiamMills-nu8uz Okay great, glad that helped you out. It’s a great question actually and probably a good topic to cover in a future UA-cam video!
Quick question matt, I see videos about spoms and using a shock leader but when using the same rod for feature finding with a marker, no one seems to use a shock leader.
My question is do I need a shock leader or not 🤔
Hi mate, well it depends on what braid you are using and what range you are fishing at. I use the 25lb Nash Spod/marker braid which casts great, because it’s only 0.18mm diameter. If I were to try and cast anything more than 3oz over 70 yards I’d run the risk of cracking off as the thin braid would cut into the spool. To eliminate this risk I use a 30lb braided shock leader. Don’t be put off by the small difference in rated breaking strains between the two. They are two very different products. The leader is much thicker and heavier and designed to absorb heavy casting loads that would snap the 25 lb braid like cotton. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
Hi @matthewcollinsangler , thanks for your reply.
Am new to the spom/feature finding part, I've alway just used my fishing rod and reel to find a place to fish but I've always known I need to have a dedicated rod for this with braid as I fish with mono.
Plus I want to start using a spom,
Am watching videos of spoms and they all have shock leader, but when watching feature finding, there's no leaders.
Am I ok with feature finding with a leader attached?
Also am thinking if I use a marker float, won't the float get stuck on the knot where the braid starts?
I only fish 10ft rods and my max I've ever casted out is about 70yards before it gets messy haha
If you want to feature find and spomb at 80 yards then yes you will need a leader for sure. I use 6m of braided leader in this video so unless you are fishing deeper than that (which TBH I kind of doubt), the presence of a leader knot isn't a problem. I use a 10ft rod in this video and I know my setup is good for 80 yards no problem. Just maybe watch the video again and it should all make sense. Best of luck, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thank you 👍
Co to za rig puller ten okrągły?
I use a large jet flame lighter as a round rig puller in combination with a standard rig puller (this one is from Nash). All I do is wrap the line around the lighter 3-4 times (don’t cross the wraps!) You can use anything of 2-3 cm diameter as long as it’s smooth and round. Regards, Matt.
Can you put 18lb Diawa sensor on a 5500 reel size ? Mini pit reel ?
Hi, 18lb Daiwa sensor is 0.40 diameter from what I can see. A 5500 spool can hold 290m of 0.35 line so at 0.40 you’ll get 222m of line on the spool. So yes that’s fine for many carp fishing situations. I wonder about your choice of 0.40 line as that’s very heavy duty (good for very rough ground) but you’ll struggle to maximise your casting distance. Nowadays I use Nash Bullet in 12lbs (0.33) for most of my fishing. I recommend 20lb for the lake but then we have catfish in excess of 100lbs! Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks for getting back to me. I was wondering that the tighter circumference would make the line twist on thicker lines ? On a bigger reel it may be more gentle curve. I think I’m over thinking it 😂
@@cbing4036 Actually mate you’re spot. A 5500 spool is good with lines sub 0.35 diameter. It’s not ideal for heavy lines because of the small spool diameter and yes the coils are tighter. It’s one of the reasons why I use big pit reels for everything.
@@matthewcollinsangler thank you great videos by the way! I watch every single one you bring out !
@@cbing4036 Wow, thanks mate that's awesome feedback. There’s a new video on the way soon!
Can i use fox eos 10000fd spool for spod and marker
Yes, sure, you don’t need to use a dedicated spod reel for spod and marker work.
@@matthewcollinsangler thank u. Do u myb know how much 0.40mm line can i get on fox eos 10000 fd because it only said for 0.33/320m and 0.35mm/260m
@@Alen_Virag06 Approximately 200m of 0.40. I don’t understand why you are asking about 0.40 though as the original question was about spod and marker for which you’d use much finer line (0.18mm braid) with a 30lbs shock leader.
@@matthewcollinsangler i know that u need the braid but i dint find any info for how much 0.40mm can i put on spool so i asked u
Will this work the same with any marker float
Hi Andrew, the short answer no, I don’t believe so. I haven't tested this setup with other marker float brands because none (that I know of) have the specific features I’m looking for to make this setup work. If you want to use this setup you really need to change marker floats.
I’ve used it with other floats (ESP and Korda) with no major problems 🤷♂️ True it does tangle every now and then so Matt’s float choice might be a better option.
Who carries round a spod marker and leading rod!? I’ve never met anyone that does this 😂
Petri Heil. 💪
I used to like your vids for good content. Now i feel like its going the wrong way 😕
Sorry to hear that mate. We film videos based on my fishing and what I’m testing/learning at a particular time. If there’s a topic you’re interested in, we’re always open to video ideas. Cheers, Matt