I think Sorcerer should've been placed in A tier. You highly underestimate how good that high VIT stat helps. It allows you to heal way more than other non-healer classes, and it gives you 40+ spd & vit just by reaching lv 20. It's also weird how you say Sorcerer has "decent mobility" with 60 spd while calling priest, summoner and mystic "low mobility" when they have the exact same amount of spd... And before you argue saying that Sorc has the scepter which gives extra spd - no, a begginer will most likely barely manage to get a T5 scepter which only gives you 2 spd. I don't think that makes any difference. I do appreciate the fact that you take into account the range factor. I'm tired of 10 yo rotten players who keep saying melees are the best begginer classes, not realizing how sht they are when you have no pet and don't know enemy attacks
@@ImWiply beginner here, i thought Preist/Necro were best due to being able to heal themselves(and range). But now thinking about it, being able to not focus on healing(it being passive) might help a sh8 ton in dodging shots.
I've put in over 300 hours in this game since it came out in 2012 and i still havent maxed a characters stats or experienced alot of the end game content. It takes a long time to not be a noob lmao! Side note: you say damage funny. Dehmage!
Not bad at all. Personally I'd put knight in C tier if anything, D is a tad too low for my boy. For new players, he's not incredible, but he's the perfect introduction to melees because of that added defense from his shield. Most of the content a lot of new players will be doing, that defense will go a bit farther than one would expect. Especially considering I feel like most new players will be doing their best to spend their time in groups, they'll be able to get other buffs such as healing from nearby paladins.
Why any of melee classed is higher than F- is beyond me, any extra DEF those get from armor + abylity gets shitted on by the amount of extra shots every noob will eat while trying to do any damage with sword. Doesn't matter what theoretical damage those have due to their weapon and abylities, if you have to get up close and personal prior to deaing any. Annihilate everything from as far as possible, and only with experience/good pet/stacked items - get closer.
You make good points and lift another perspective compared to other vids like this. However... I see this mostly aimed at new players and as an extra bonus to make your video better then would be to: a) put gameplay of the character you're talking about b) explain a few things a bit more or let the new players know where they can find out about more when you first mention things (like pets for example)
You're 100% right, I was planning on doing a) but I kinda ran out of time and decided that's the part I'm gonna leave out cuz I wanted to push this vid out. (I felt bad about not uploading for a while, guess I look a bit silly now xd)
I think a knight is probably the best class to build up an account since your basically invincible in the starting dungeons onxe your maxed and have alright gear
For priest, all the cons can be countered by using different book Damage: Tome of pain Defense: Tome of holy defense Mobility: Book of Geb Ik this tier list is for beginners but just to remind that priest has no downside
@@ImWiply Bro, you just use your archer/ wizard/ priest to max the knight and then you never touch either of those other 3 again. But here is the issue with your placement, nothing that you would ever touch again should be placed above something that is more likely to become your boon. That's like rating a scooter higher than a motorcycle, when in reality you're going to use it until you save up enough for a down payment on the bike, at which point it will rust in your basement.
The whole point of the video is giving you the best class to play if you're NOT good at maxing stats... even if you're maxing them for other characters@@Kjetilstorm
@@Kjetilstorm I dont think you get my point. By saying to use archer to max your knight you're literally saying what I've been saying. Archer is a better option to start with, because it's easier to max with. Once you got the pots you can simply move on to other classes. It's a starter class tier list, not "never play this class" tier list.
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nice now i know what class to pick!!!
You're the biggest beginner out of them all
I think Sorcerer should've been placed in A tier. You highly underestimate how good that high VIT stat helps. It allows you to heal way more than other non-healer classes, and it gives you 40+ spd & vit just by reaching lv 20.
It's also weird how you say Sorcerer has "decent mobility" with 60 spd while calling priest, summoner and mystic "low mobility" when they have the exact same amount of spd... And before you argue saying that Sorc has the scepter which gives extra spd - no, a begginer will most likely barely manage to get a T5 scepter which only gives you 2 spd. I don't think that makes any difference.
I do appreciate the fact that you take into account the range factor. I'm tired of 10 yo rotten players who keep saying melees are the best begginer classes, not realizing how sht they are when you have no pet and don't know enemy attacks
All fair points, maybe sorc does deserve to be a bit higher...
@@ImWiply beginner here, i thought Preist/Necro were best due to being able to heal themselves(and range). But now thinking about it, being able to not focus on healing(it being passive) might help a sh8 ton in dodging shots.
I've put in over 300 hours in this game since it came out in 2012 and i still havent maxed a characters stats or experienced alot of the end game content. It takes a long time to not be a noob lmao! Side note: you say damage funny. Dehmage!
my boy Paladin going to make a comeback
This person is very hot and good looking
I love knight *salivates*. with set Egg Basher, Shield of Orcish Shield +7 extra def mod, heavy matrix, Bracer.... Kinda incincible.
Not bad at all. Personally I'd put knight in C tier if anything, D is a tad too low for my boy. For new players, he's not incredible, but he's the perfect introduction to melees because of that added defense from his shield. Most of the content a lot of new players will be doing, that defense will go a bit farther than one would expect. Especially considering I feel like most new players will be doing their best to spend their time in groups, they'll be able to get other buffs such as healing from nearby paladins.
I was debating just putting him next to his melee buddies. It's very much personal preference, so I can easily see him being higher or even lower.
thanks for the vid, every point is pretty much justified
Glad you liked it! :D
just started playing, enjoyed the vid
omg it's a wiply video that got recommended to me
Why any of melee classed is higher than F- is beyond me, any extra DEF those get from armor + abylity gets shitted on by the amount of extra shots every noob will eat while trying to do any damage with sword.
Doesn't matter what theoretical damage those have due to their weapon and abylities, if you have to get up close and personal prior to deaing any.
Annihilate everything from as far as possible, and only with experience/good pet/stacked items - get closer.
You make good points and lift another perspective compared to other vids like this. However... I see this mostly aimed at new players and as an extra bonus to make your video better then would be to:
a) put gameplay of the character you're talking about
b) explain a few things a bit more or let the new players know where they can find out about more when you first mention things (like pets for example)
You're 100% right, I was planning on doing a) but I kinda ran out of time and decided that's the part I'm gonna leave out cuz I wanted to push this vid out. (I felt bad about not uploading for a while, guess I look a bit silly now xd)
I think a knight is probably the best class to build up an account since your basically invincible in the starting dungeons onxe your maxed and have alright gear
Bro i main warrior, pal, knight. When he put knight at D tier. My heart like😢
Mystic my beloved 💔
This is so sad 😔
conflict is warrior's helmet on crack.
nice upload
For priest, all the cons can be countered by using different book
Damage: Tome of pain
Defense: Tome of holy defense
Mobility: Book of Geb
Ik this tier list is for beginners but just to remind that priest has no downside
Ofc, but even with tome of pain, his damage is still not that great and can be outperformed
Forgot to mention chaotic scipture which do less heal than normal tome/puri and more damage than tome of pain
My bad
Good video, but also
my beloved Kensei 😭
Even you can admit he's not good for newbies
very nice vid
jk it is the best
this has decided the next PPE
Can't wait! 🙏
Great video!
Thanks!
Put Assassin in A tier or we riot
I tried to be as unbiased as possible, assassin is S+ tier really.
Don't tell anyone tho... 🤫
Justice for warrior
My homie did nothing wrong... 😔
almost good tier list quit yapping and its goona be good love
What changes would you make?
kek knight in D tier. The one class you can't die on lmao.
Have you tried to do a glands dung with 0 defense and expirience, not fun lol
@@ImWiply Bro, you just use your archer/ wizard/ priest to max the knight and then you never touch either of those other 3 again. But here is the issue with your placement, nothing that you would ever touch again should be placed above something that is more likely to become your boon. That's like rating a scooter higher than a motorcycle, when in reality you're going to use it until you save up enough for a down payment on the bike, at which point it will rust in your basement.
The whole point of the video is giving you the best class to play if you're NOT good at maxing stats... even if you're maxing them for other characters@@Kjetilstorm
@@ImWiply How can you actually be bad at maxing stats? You think your viewers can't handle snake pits or something?
@@Kjetilstorm I dont think you get my point. By saying to use archer to max your knight you're literally saying what I've been saying. Archer is a better option to start with, because it's easier to max with. Once you got the pots you can simply move on to other classes.
It's a starter class tier list, not "never play this class" tier list.
bad
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