There were many people who evacuated due to the transportation outlets with the port authority fairy, and the subway system connected to the underground mall
Once it collapsed it was probably impossible to even get to the underground mall at that point. And before they collapsed there was no need for people in the towers go down there to evacuate when they still could evacuate through the main doors of the building at the time
When second the plane hit it took out all but one stairwell leaving many trapped above and all elevators disabled…add to that severed utility pipes and lines water coming down the stairs in the halls no lights…jet fuel burning profusely in certain areas….the survival stories paint a really grim picture, and those who did survive had miraculous events take place and many brave lives given. I truly don’t try to downplay the what “would I do” when it comes to 9/11 it would simply take luck karma or some guardian angels to survive that.
@@Metaintelligenciawell said many people have no idea how terrible those conditions were. One South Tower survivor stated that after the plane crashed he couldn't find the stairwell he just came down. Sadly reading about victims in the Newspapers one told his father the the entire stairwell had collapsed 😢
People weren't trapped at ground level. If you could get to the lobby, you could either run when you were clear from falling debris and people, or you could evacuate through the Mall(which many _did_ do). There was no reason to try and escape through the subway system when nothing was stopping you from evacuating at surface level or close to it.
I believe when the planes hit the towers, they severed some of the vertical water pipes. There were reports of water pouring down the stairways as people evacuated. This might have caused some of the initial flooding in the sub levels.
Agreed. People don't seem to understand the engineering involved in structures like this. Water is a major issue. You have to have gargantuan pumps and storage facilities in order to move enough water up two buildings like these, fighting against gravity all the way, then store it on every level, then distribute it across the entire structure. These buildings had facilities for thousands of people on hundreds of levels. Everything from bathrooms to kitchens. The water seen in the subway systems would be from the thousands of ruptured pipes and reservoirs ruptured during the initial impacts.
@@ct5625And not to mention the World Trade Center got most of its water from the Hudson River. I could imagine it didn’t take long for the place to get flooded.
This and the simple fact that sprinkler systems really don't work as described in this video... they only work that way in Hollywood movies. So-called "Movie sprinklers" have done untold damage in terms of discouraging people from putting them in buildings, because they think in the event of a fire, every single head will activate.
You should do a video on the Borders Bookstore inside of WTC5. There are some gnarly pictures of it online and it was probably one of the most intact parts of the WTC complex after the collapses.
It still boggles my mind to think I was on my way to work and came from the #1 train at Cortland St station walking on the platform then going up the stairs with all those people about an hour and 15 mins before the first plane struck. I remember the homeless man sleeping on the subway stairs at the time. I still wonder how many people walking beside me were on their way to the twin towers instead of any of the stores in the mall. My store opened at 7:30 a.m. as did many other retail stores, but other co-workers of mine were scheduled to start their shift at 10 a.m. I'm so lucky I wasn't one of them!
When the bridge collapsed in Monneapolis my husband had been crossing that 35W all day halling office furniture with his semi. He had just crossed it a half our before it fell.
You are constantly mixing the NY+NJ PATH subway and the NYC MTA subway. They are two completely separate systems. The MTA station called Cortlandt street was damaged and partially collapsed when debris fell on to it, but the station was removed and temporary walls ensured through running traffic. Basically all pictures with the steel beams are from here. It only reopened as the Oculus opened as a transit mall. The PATH station was completely destroyed and a temporary one was built soon after. The current one opened with the Oculus do there is a nice and airy passage between both stations and it connects to the Fulton center transit complex with even more subways.
Sorry, the 1 train is on the same side as PATH, the R or Q train is on the other. But they are two separate stations and lines, PATH runs WE and MTA runs NS. Not sure of the new PATH layout, but the temporary one was in a loop.
But in retrospect, the PATH train station suffered the worst damage because unlike the 1/9 subway line was in the Bathtub AKA the basement levels next to the towers
Ok, as someone who is not a new Yorker, can you explain this to me. How Many lines of the New York City Subway served the WTC and those lines were connected to PATH? Also, to recap the NYC subway was partially destroyed while PATH was fully destroyed?
Actually that night it cleared out but the rain was earlier because I was supposed to go to the Yankee game that afternoon. Also remember taking my boyfriend To the train station on 135 because he had to go back to the Bronx so I walked back ,the moon was out so not cleared up around 7:45.
On 9/11, those of us in Juneau Alaska were essentially trapped from egress for several days because of the shutdown of the airport. Dairy products ran out. For those that don’t know, the only way into Alaska’s capital city is either by air or the state-operated ferry system.
Ive always been so fascinated to learn about this tragic event. Watching it on tv when we were in middle school and watching all the news reports as a child. A very intense time.
7:27 in that small piece of Marriott Hotel which has left, there were several people which had survived, there is a documentary on YT about this story: The 9/11 Hotel
I was in 6th grade when this happened in Queens we had the hole sky view of Manhattan. In my class I saw them up in smoke and watched the towers collapse. I remember the smoke being in the air for up to 8months after the collpase. Also my Mom caught cancer from the towers because she was in the area. Then a few months later we went back to the city and we saw the rubble of the towers , very sad sh***
I was in 6th grade in Maryland and we watched it live on TV, so traumatic for everyone, can only imagine being in NYC and seeing it in person. Sorry to hear about your mother's cancer.
I’m sorry man I hope this message helps. Know that Jesus will fulfill you more than anything in this world, I speak from experience (from when i did Romans 10:9-13), he loves you and wants to be in a meaningful (not romantic) relationship with you. :) “that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Romans 10:9-13 KJV “and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” Mark 1:15 KJV If you want proof that Jesus and the Bible are true look a documentary called “Ron Wyatt discoveries 2022” on UA-cam and a UA-cam channel called Expedition Bible. They both examine archeological sites and discoveries that prove the Bible, and even reference secular sources. (Just don’t convert to 7th day Adventism after watching the documentary) And lastly if you don’t know the gospel and want to be saved search up “abc’s of Salvation Teenmissions” on Google and it should be the first or second result. When you click on it read the whole thing, and do what it says and have faith in Jesus while you are doing it, do not doubt, and if it is hard for you to do what it says, ask Jesus to help you, have faith that he will, and *he will.* God Bless :)
I've seen a footage people emerging from the subway, they all confuse as walking on the streets because of the ash. They have no idea on what's happening on the ground during that time. Poor people, they all confuse. Minutes after the first tower collapsed. I'm not quite sure what did they do after hearing the roaring of second tower collapsing coz they haven't process yet what's happening on the surroundings.
I subbed couple months ago for college football news but man your channel has quickly become my favorite because of the wide array of interesting topics
A lot of people mysteriously did not show up that day. Was anyone else you know who worked there also partying the night before? Who were you guys partying with?
I remember footage of the underground shops weeks after the towers fell. It still had pristine, but dusty, newspapers of the early edition of 9/11, and all the clocks were frozen from the time power was cut when the tower (first I assume) fell.
Pat, there were and are three different stations at that site-- the Broadway Manhattan (R and W trains), the Seventh Avenue (1 train) and the PATH terminal. The R and W is on the east periphery of the WTC property and the uptown side of that station was the least damaged of all.
The 1 train suffered the most damage due to its proximity to the south tower if you go to the pools in the memorial you can see the South Pool and the new WTC cortlant station on the 1 just few feet apart from each other that’s how close they were the South tower is east to the station by few feet.
I think it's the E train that ends at one of the WTC platforms now, but just before it enters, it passes some really dark tunnels and voids that extend beyond the platforms. I don't know if it's related but it makes me think of that dark day.
Here is a little more information about the Subway. So the WTC was served by the PATH (Port Authority Trans Hudson) to NJ and the IRT Broadway Line. The Port Authority had to take over PATH (which was a private and subsidized business) in order to build the WTC. They demolished the old Hudson Terminal building in Radio Row and built the old WTC path station. The image at 2:17 shows the Eastbound PATH tube coming out of the slurry wall and into the basement of the South Tower. Just behind the slurry wall is the IRT Broadway line (1 and 9 train) which also served the WTC at Courtland Street. A seven car PATH train was left at the WTC station on 9/11. Five cars were destroyed while cars 745 and 143 survived. They were originally going to be put in the 9/11 museum but were too large. So 745 was donated to the Shore Line Trolley Museum in CT, and 143 went to the Trolley Museum of New York. The 9 was suspended while the 1 was suspended south of Chambers Street. The 1 ran replaced the 3 to New Lots while the E train which served the WTC took over the C train from 168th-Euclid. The N & R trains which served the BMT Courtland Street station were suspended while the Q (Via Brighton) and W (Via West End) ran to Coney Island with the J going from Parsons to 95th street Bay Ridge while the M went from Metropolitan Av to Coney Island via Sea Beach.
I went to the transit museum in Kingston, Ny, and saw subway car 143. It’s one of the only 2 surviving trains cars. Unfortunately, I couldn’t see the inside if it at the time
PATH is not NYC Subway. 2 separate systems that both suffered damaged areas. PATH had the worst loss of the entire terminal under the WTC and has been rebuilt at a new location with better access. Cortland St-WTC of the NYCT #1 Line was cleared of the damage and rebuilt in the same location.
I still say a video of the true footprint of the location of the original complex overlay compared to the memorial plaza today. I’ve been told west street was also moved so using West St of pre 9/11 as a reference point for today’s plaza is not accurate. I cannot find any documentation of how much the WSH was moved post 9/11.
False Nothing was changed regarding the streets other than certain ones removed during the original WTC construction were added back to the site. The pools are on the exact site of the towers plus the first line of trees surrounding them.
First thanks for the story and the video , awesome. Being an old North Bronx Mic building engineer who start as a super 's kid.. I love all the newyork videos about all the mechanics of the city Building were built with a perimeter support system and Osama was an engineer ( an American schooled one)so he recognized the building weakness . it didn't have as much iron as a traditional constructed building the same size would . this cauase the pancake affect with all the sprinker and domestic water lines either broken or set off each floor gain weigh like crazy. till one collasped then made the next even more heavy and speed up the seperation from the outer frame works as the floors dropped down faster and faster. Another problem was the stairwells weren't concrete fire rated columns just double sheetrock, like the same as a garage at your house firerated for 3 hours. But the subbasements ,parking, mall and the subway were build right with columns everywhere. Thanks again.
Hello everyone, this is a great video. The details match up and you did a very great job at explaining what happened to them. Although, I want to give more information about what happened to the cars that were in the subway during the collapse. One of the PATH cars was taken out and, obviously put at the 9/11 Museum. But you may be wondering what happened to the other path train. That train was brought over miles down to Connecticut on a truck. It now rests at the Shoreline Trolley Museum also down in Connecticut, it still is operable, thanks to the masters over there that helped repair the mechanics, and on some days it is taken out for excursion trains, Say the Trolley Parade that happens every start of operating season. I actually volunteer there, there is a whole section inside one of the sheds dedicated just to that PATH train and we put up memorials, informational boards, informational videos, sculptures and more. It’s a great experience if you want to learn more about what happened to the subway cars themselves. In fact, that picture that he showed with some of the cars being dug out of the ground, one of those cars are the ones here. Just wanted to put a bit more information about what happened to the cars themselves, great video. Bye!
To clarify: Car 745 is the car from the WTC collapse. It is exhibited as a static display inside one of the museum's car barns. It is preserved as it was (ads, etc.) except that the lighting was changed to LEDs because the original lighting was powered by the under-car equipment which was flooded after 9/11. It rolls (it was towed into position at the museum by car 503, see below) but isn't going to move under its own power again. That would be a huge job and would involve replacing most of the under-car equipment which would turn it into something different than a surviving 9/11 car. Car 503 is a H&M (precursor to PATH) car which Al Zelazo has lovingly restored over 40+ years. It is fully operable (I helped move it out of Building 8 and "down the hill" a few weeks ago) and is also period-correct regarding ads and interior fittings. 745 being moved into position by 503: www.bera.org/pnaerc-photos/photo-6033.jpg Additional information and pictures: heritagerail.org/2015/11/911-survivor-to-shore-line-museum/
The train cars that were recovered, and you show in the very beginning of the video are actually path commuter rail cars, they are not subway line cars
Crazy as hell I was in that Train station 7 months Earlier coming from J and R. Going back uptown. The eerie part. That I went into the building the the plane hit first, then down to the Mezzanine or lower level to go to this station.i end up by the area outside of the parking lot 15 feet away from where it happened 8 years earlier to 30 feet with the building behind me of Where it was going to happen again 6 months later. Then a creepy cold feeling came over me. I'm not surprised if the pic of courtland is where I walked towards the end before I take the back stairs to the A train and ended up in Park place. I literally walked a half of a block underground. I give it that you really have to live New York. This happening was just so terrible that so many lives lost on that day and the city at a stand still was all to surreal.
What I’d like to see is the rebuilding of the subway, they called it the breadbox. I don’t remember if trains ran through the the still exposed debris pit that was in the process of being sifted through.
I had a friend who worked for Verizon that was brought in very shortly after 9/11 to assess the damage to their systems down there. I got to see video he shot that has never been publicly released very soon after everything happened. It was awful.
They were very skeptical of showing any of the public even in New York any photos. I didn't see any of it until the do the Documentaries the end in 2004 . A whole lot of years later because of the Nick Cage movie. Seriously annoyed and adds to heartbreak even worse.
I was there that morning, I had left awhile before the stores were going to open. I saw only one "construction worker" come out the tunnel that was closed for construction. Only one tunnel was open
Subway not being totalled may be a bit less surprising than it seems. Yes, the fall of such massive building would release tremendous amount of energy. And yet the amount of energy needed to bring down such massive building is also tremendous. I think, it may be quite possible that most of the energy released during the collapse of Twin Towers was spent on the collapse itself. And thus when the crumpling towers stroke the ground level, most of the energy of their fall may have been already spent. Please, do keep in mind that I am not a physicist though. Just speaking a though I had.
re: flooding "Probably due to the fire suppression sprinkler system" How high is the water table in the area? sump pump failure and cracked linings in the aftermath of 9/11 seems like it could be an additional factor but I'm only offering this as a wild guess.
It's water from the towers. People reported seeing rivers of water flooding down the stairs. All the vitals were in the central core of the buildings. This included elevator shafts, stairs, and the power and water facilities. This would have included pumps and reservoirs at numerous levels, to be able to push the water upward in stages. The engineering you need to pump water up 100+ floors, fighting gravity, to service thousands of people with bathrooms and kitchens on every floor, means that there would have been thousands upon thousands of tons of water inside those towers at the moment of impact. When the planes severed those vital lines all that water would have been moving at great speed downward and would gather at the lowest point.
The reason most of the underground floors survived more or less intact. Was due to the towers turning to dust, even the engineers were surprised at how little damage the slurry wall sustained after the twin collapses. I highly recommend reading Where Did The Towers Go? By Judy Wood, it’s a real eye opener and the best explanation for what actually happened to the trade center.
@@sirwi11iam they used a new technology in order to make them “collapse”. She’s made several vids too, it’s all very interesting if u want I can send u a link to one of them.
@@sirwi11iam I think people have a hard time understanding the physical forces involved in this collapse. And there's good reason to be dumbfounded by it. We've never seen anything like it in Human history. Most of the structure was concrete and rebar. The mass of the floors collapsing on each other would have generated so much force that it would be almost like one of those pneumatic presses you see crushing all kinds of objects, only this would have been at speed. Objects did survive, like pieces of phones or items from someone's desk, but this would have likely only been because those objects were ejected through a window during the collapse, or they were on one of the very top floors which wouldn't have sustained the crushing forces below.
NYC subway trains run through all of nyc. Path trains go as far as Newark penn station which is in New Jersey through journal square in Jersey city, Secaucus nj, WTC, a few stops through lower manhattan like soho/Tribeca & last stop 33rd or 34th street near the big macys in midtown manhattan where they hold the thanksgiving day parade at.That being the last stop & back to Jersey for those who are not from the ny/nj area.
You’re mixing up 2 different Subway systems, the NYC Subway and the PATH Subway. The pic at 0:23 is the Cortlandt St NYC 1 strain station. All the subway cars you’re showing are the PATH subway cars.
I believe the stairwell for the subway is part of the museum if I remember correctly I was there an you want to talk about ery the 911 museum an the whole memorial you can feel what happened that day an it’s hard to believe 2 towers were there but it’s a thing that you should if your in that area of New York
Regarding the water, don't forget the debris pile smoldered for a couple of weeks afterwards. They were constantly pouring water on that to cool it down. I don't think the photos of the flooded station were immediately after the collapse but later on, after the fire was out. So that is likely where most of that water came from. I really want to say **thanks** for something you said; something that I have been saying since day one. It's highly inappropriate to say "that can't happen that way" when there is in fact NO PRECEDENT for this kind of incident to say what can or can't happen. Creating conspiracy theories because of some a-holes assumptions (not based on physics or engineering) is just disgusting behavior. I want to vomit ever time I see those claims. There was a "documentary" released shortly after 9-11 that put forth a lot of half truths by cherry picking only what evidence agreed with their theory. Out of the hundreds who saw the planes, there was one guy who didn't. He just heard an explosion. He said "it was like a bomb going off". So they say "well see, the building was bombed". Similarly, they produced some "expert" who claimed the towers could not possible have fallen as fast at they did. The "expert" claimed that it was supposed to collapse 1 floor, then hold in mid air for 1 second before the next floor would collapse. Well, I'm no engineer but as it turns out neither was he. A quick check of his credentials led to a fake college website which was really just an ad for his book about how the towers should have collapsed more slowly. As I checked the credentials of several of their sources, it became obvious the producers were liars just trying to profit off a truly heinous act.
As stated in the video (and known from reporting), the subway system was flooding immediately after the initial impacts of the planes but before the collapse of the buildings. The water flooding the subways was from the impact of the planes severing the massive system of pumps and reservoirs needed to push so much water up hundreds of floors to service thousands of bathrooms and kitchens. The central core of each building was where all the facilities were. This included elevators, stairs, electrical, water, pumps, reservoirs, fire suppression systems and so on. We know the central cores were damaged significantly because the elevators fell, and people above the areas of impact couldn't escape through the stairs. And ditto on your second point. The "truther" loons will fixate on any little thing they can but everything they try has been debunked a billion times over the last two decades. None of their nonsense is based on facts, on science, on physics or any evidence at all. It's a cult and little else.
I believe they have completely redesigned the subway system underneath the new building and none of the old subway system is accessible. However, the museum under the new building does have part of the original massive concrete retaining wall you see in the old photo of the subway being built.
Each of the twin towers collapsed with the force of 2.8 on the Richter scale. Anything more, and the Hudson River would have breached the ‘bathtub’ and flooded all of lower Manhattan. And the pneumatic force of the towers collapsing should have sent those train carriages miles up the line.
"pneumatic force"? This wasn't a closed system. Where is the pneumatic force being generated when two massive buildings crumble and collapse to the earth? You seem to be imagining these buildings to be like syringes filled with air. None of that is even remotely related to basic physical reality.
@@jeffbrubaker5228 truth is horrifically painful sometimes, I say with all respect. how shattered my world was when no longer was a false narrative even possible. we come to truth in our own time, but where this country is headed, the clock is winding down
I don't believe the water came from the sprinklers. Normally, subway station sprinklers are connected to a dry hydrant on the surface and firefighters must connect the latter to a wet hydrant. This design is precisely to prevent damage caused by water.
I want to make myself perfectly clear, I’ve always supported John Fisher in coming to Vegas, mainly cause I don’t want Oakland to have a team period and I truly did believe that the Vegas Stadium would create much more needed jobs for the Vegas economy, as I matter of fact I still do. However even I’m starting to wonder if the A’s might wind up in Utah after all. See here’s my perspective on Vegas overall on the A’s period. I believe there are some here who rather have expansion, mainly because they don’t trust Fisher and they don’t like the way he conducts business, whether those reasons are valid or not, I believe Vegas as a whole could be hurting ourselves with MLB and our majority attitude towards Fisher. I know it’s the plan of some here, to publicly unwelcome Fisher and Manfried will give us expansion eventually. That’s the mistake, expansion isn’t guaranteed to Vegas at all and to be frank, which usually I am, if Vegas doesn’t make it work with the A’s and Fisher, I’m about 99% certain we won’t ever get an MLB team period, I’m highly confident in saying that. Honestly, I feel in Vegas best move is to be more welcoming of Fisher publicly, let him get here, cause I don’t think, he’s going to be the sole owner more than 7 years anyways. We should’ve kept our mouths shut here and let Oakland people pile the dirt on Fisher. Anyhow I’m starting to think that perhaps Utah has a 40% chance of getting the A’s instead of Vegas. Fisher still wants Vegas because of the support he’s receiving from important sources here, but the state of Utah is more welcoming. I see Utah’s game, they have publicly been supporting the A’s along with expansion, basically happy whatever they get. This should’ve been Vegas residents play, meanwhile may wind up with nothing A’s nor expansion.
Why do you keep referring to the PATH train as the subway? They are two completely different systems that do not connect aside from passenger concourses. Another thing is that there were no “buildings” underground - simply just floors connecting different things like commercial spaces and the subway and path train. The reason why the entire area didn’t collapse is because it was built properly, and the buildings fell mostly straight down onto themselves and the collapsed areas were primarily in the buildings footprints. The damage you see is not collapse, but debris from the buildings penetrating in through the street above. Maybe a little less focus on turning out a video every day and more time focused on knowing what you are talking about and getting the facts correct.
Such destruction also occurred in the Berlin U-Bahn and S-Bahn network during World War II. The subway had it worst in the area around Wittenbergplatz. The subway station there had been totally destroyed by Air Rail. From the street, you could see into the tunnel through the bomb hits. In the case of the S-Bahn, things were different. Here, the German troops blew up the north-south tunnel in the area of the Spree and the Landwehr Canal. Due to the explosion in the S-Bahn tunnel, it was filled with water. However, this effect also had consequences for the subway. At Friedrichstraße station, the water ran into the subway tunnel. As a result, large parts of Berlin's subway network were no longer usable. Thanks for the video, by the way. I had never seen pictures from the tunnel of the WTC since 9/11. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven
South Ferry did get severely damaged during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, necessitating an almost complete rebuild of the station which only opened three years earlier. That station replaced the small, notorious 1905 station with its VERY noisy curved loop track.
@@19irving it was just so nice. It was like a city under the city. Sad and the lower level from Tower one going to the station was the Courtyard. The bannister was exactly the barrier around the original memorial from 1993. It was somewhat lonely. There was a small store where everyone gets a paper or coffee or even candy or gum before they went to get their cars in the parking lot which was to the right of the stairs . The memorial is in the Courtyard in the middle architecture wise and nowhere else near tower 3 and 4 because the parking lot that got destroyed also destroyed the stairs going to the subway. now this pic in this video is so heartbreaking.
Know what you’re talking about. There are no sprinkler systems in the subway per se. If water came in, it was from water that firefighters were using to hold the flames at bay in the towers. Don’t speculate about things you don’t know. I’m a retired NYCT subway conductor. By the way, you are mixing subway pics with pics of the PATH. PATH is a totally different system. That piece starts and ends with a WTC terminal and runs to Hoboken NJ. There are transfers in NJ to one or two other Path lines. It connects with a monorail to Newark Airport. It goes to Jersey City. It also connects with a light rail to Bayonne. It connects to NJ Transit train service too. PATH means Port Authority Trans Hudson. Once it crosses the Hudson River it is in NJ. NYCT is New York City Transit. It’s part of the MTA. It runs 4 borough service within NYC only - Bronx, Manhattan, Queens & Brooklyn. It has a train division & bus division. The bus division also serves Staten Island. Staten Island has its own single line railway. It doesn’t connect with the subway. It’s part of the MTA but it’s called SIR. It connects to the Staten Island Ferry.
"Some $375 million in gold and silver buried beneath the World Trade Center since the Sept. 11 attacks that destroyed the financial district landmark has been found and is being relocated, the custodian for the metals said on Wednesday" Took me 10 seconds to find out. This was reported in October of 2001, btw. Another "truther" cult fixation repeatedly debunked, but the cult has so little to pin their delusions on they just pretend that reality isn't real.
I’d also like to point out the fact that, in the official narrative, they try to say that the weight of the floors above coming down on the floor below it is enough to cause a cascade effect, causing every subsequent floor beneath to give out and collapse at free fall speed, yet the ENTIRE FUCKING WEIGHT of the entire building collapsing into the street below wasn’t enough force to completely collapse the subway tunnels underneath …. Not sure how that makes sense, but y’all just keep believing the official story (that’s what it is, just a story as fake as the ones you tell your kids before they go to sleep … ) The US government has been caught in SO MANY fuckin lies .. is it really to hard to believe that the people in charge (it’s not the government as a whole.. it’s the few bad actors that have other people making the plans and talking into their ear, like bush jr.. his daddy was giving him orders his entire presidency.. there’s a reason he only had one term) wouldn’t sacrifice American lives to further their political agenda ? During the Cuban missile crisis, the CIA actually presented JFK an operation called OPERATION NORTHWOODS , which was a plan to shoot down American planes, blow up predetermined targets in Florida and Washington D.C., and blow up a couple U.S. warships in ports in Cuba to gather public support to send troops into Cuba to secure the Russian missile sites, because the American public wouldn’t have supported a beach landing/invasion without some sort of catalyst.. we were lucky that JFK wasn’t a psychopath, and he decided to vetoe the operation, but if the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general Lyman Lemnitzer had his way, the operation would’ve been executed.. funny enough, the rejection of this operation caused the people who are actually in charge of the president, the private military contract companies like Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed skunkwory etc. to become wary of JFK, and tried to say JFK was anti-military and didn’t support the military industrial complex or the war on communism.. decisions such as vetoing an operation that would allow the military industrial complex to move forward with their agenda, are what got JFK killed .. jFK wanted to be honest with the American public.. he wanted to lower/get rid of completely, the military industrial complex’s influence and control over the American government and the people of America .. unfortunately he was killed for it, and Robert Kennedy jr knows what his uncle was trying to achieve.. he knows why his uncle was killed, and he’s fighting to make JFKs wishes and dream a reality
It does make sense, because of PHYSICS. If you people spent even a tenth of your time opening a book and reading a little scientific reality you wouldn't be constantly embarrassing yourselves on the internet. But please, by all means, spend another TWENTY YEARS following your cult delusions and making absolutely no difference to the world, while the rest of us get on with our lives understanding reality, science, physics, and evidence.
Since no one dreamed that the towers would collapse, it's odd that more people didn't try escaping via the mall train areas.
There were many people who evacuated due to the transportation outlets with the port authority fairy, and the subway system connected to the underground mall
Once it collapsed it was probably impossible to even get to the underground mall at that point.
And before they collapsed there was no need for people in the towers go down there to evacuate when they still could evacuate through the main doors of the building at the time
When second the plane hit it took out all but one stairwell leaving many trapped above and all elevators disabled…add to that severed utility pipes and lines water coming down the stairs in the halls no lights…jet fuel burning profusely in certain areas….the survival stories paint a really grim picture, and those who did survive had miraculous events take place and many brave lives given. I truly don’t try to downplay the what “would I do” when it comes to 9/11 it would simply take luck karma or some guardian angels to survive that.
@@Metaintelligenciawell said many people have no idea how terrible those conditions were. One South Tower survivor stated that after the plane crashed he couldn't find the stairwell he just came down. Sadly reading about victims in the Newspapers one told his father the the entire stairwell had collapsed 😢
People weren't trapped at ground level. If you could get to the lobby, you could either run when you were clear from falling debris and people, or you could evacuate through the Mall(which many _did_ do). There was no reason to try and escape through the subway system when nothing was stopping you from evacuating at surface level or close to it.
I believe when the planes hit the towers, they severed some of the vertical water pipes. There were reports of water pouring down the stairways as people evacuated. This might have caused some of the initial flooding in the sub levels.
Is that an a10 in ur pfp
Agreed.
People don't seem to understand the engineering involved in structures like this. Water is a major issue. You have to have gargantuan pumps and storage facilities in order to move enough water up two buildings like these, fighting against gravity all the way, then store it on every level, then distribute it across the entire structure. These buildings had facilities for thousands of people on hundreds of levels. Everything from bathrooms to kitchens. The water seen in the subway systems would be from the thousands of ruptured pipes and reservoirs ruptured during the initial impacts.
@@ct5625And not to mention the World Trade Center got most of its water from the Hudson River. I could imagine it didn’t take long for the place to get flooded.
Also the slurry wall that kept in the Hudson River. Some of that flooding came from there as well.
This and the simple fact that sprinkler systems really don't work as described in this video... they only work that way in Hollywood movies. So-called "Movie sprinklers" have done untold damage in terms of discouraging people from putting them in buildings, because they think in the event of a fire, every single head will activate.
You should do a video on the Borders Bookstore inside of WTC5. There are some gnarly pictures of it online and it was probably one of the most intact parts of the WTC complex after the collapses.
now thats a name i havent heard in a wlie.
@@mattsceilingfansandmore2573borders?
It still boggles my mind to think I was on my way to work and came from the #1 train at Cortland St station walking on the platform then going up the stairs with all those people about an hour and 15 mins before the first plane struck. I remember the homeless man sleeping on the subway stairs at the time. I still wonder how many people walking beside me were on their way to the twin towers instead of any of the stores in the mall. My store opened at 7:30 a.m. as did many other retail stores, but other co-workers of mine were scheduled to start their shift at 10 a.m. I'm so lucky I wasn't one of them!
When the bridge collapsed in Monneapolis my husband had been crossing that 35W all day halling office furniture with his semi. He had just crossed it a half our before it fell.
Another great and informative video. Thank you so much for your hard work!
Indeed. Very interesting.
Train car # 143 is a Path train. Different lines and stations than NYC subway. Basically Path trains went too and from N.J. only.
You are constantly mixing the NY+NJ PATH subway and the NYC MTA subway.
They are two completely separate systems.
The MTA station called Cortlandt street was damaged and partially collapsed when debris fell on to it, but the station was removed and temporary walls ensured through running traffic. Basically all pictures with the steel beams are from here. It only reopened as the Oculus opened as a transit mall.
The PATH station was completely destroyed and a temporary one was built soon after. The current one opened with the Oculus do there is a nice and airy passage between both stations and it connects to the Fulton center transit complex with even more subways.
Sorry, the 1 train is on the same side as PATH, the R or Q train is on the other.
But they are two separate stations and lines, PATH runs WE and MTA runs NS.
Not sure of the new PATH layout, but the temporary one was in a loop.
Actually the 1 Subway line (at the time was the 1/9) ran where Greenwich street is
But in retrospect, the PATH train station suffered the worst damage because unlike the 1/9 subway line was in the Bathtub AKA the basement levels next to the towers
Ok, as someone who is not a new Yorker, can you explain this to me. How Many lines of the New York City Subway served the WTC and those lines were connected to PATH? Also, to recap the NYC subway was partially destroyed while PATH was fully destroyed?
Good research. First, interesting that Bush was there on July 2001. Also, at 6:33 *I do remember heavy rain the night before when I was a kid!*
Actually that night it cleared out but the rain was earlier because I was supposed to go to the Yankee game that afternoon. Also remember taking my boyfriend To the train station on 135 because he had to go back to the Bronx so I walked back ,the moon was out so not cleared up around 7:45.
On 9/11, those of us in Juneau Alaska were essentially trapped from egress for several days because of the shutdown of the airport. Dairy products ran out. For those that don’t know, the only way into Alaska’s capital city is either by air or the state-operated ferry system.
Ive always been so fascinated to learn about this tragic event. Watching it on tv when we were in middle school and watching all the news reports as a child. A very intense time.
7:27 in that small piece of Marriott Hotel which has left, there were several people which had survived, there is a documentary on YT about this story: The 9/11 Hotel
The #1 Cortlandt Street station didn't reopen until 2018.
I was in 6th grade when this happened in Queens we had the hole sky view of Manhattan. In my class I saw them up in smoke and watched the towers collapse. I remember the smoke being in the air for up to 8months after the collpase. Also my Mom caught cancer from the towers because she was in the area. Then a few months later we went back to the city and we saw the rubble of the towers , very sad sh***
Yup I was in 6th grade in Queens too , black smoke for months
@@carlajohnson9849 you already know. What school you went to.
I was in 6th grade in Maryland and we watched it live on TV, so traumatic for everyone, can only imagine being in NYC and seeing it in person.
Sorry to hear about your mother's cancer.
I’m sorry man
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I was in 6th grade in Queens also! I went to IS 145
I've seen a footage people emerging from the subway, they all confuse as walking on the streets because of the ash. They have no idea on what's happening on the ground during that time. Poor people, they all confuse. Minutes after the first tower collapsed. I'm not quite sure what did they do after hearing the roaring of second tower collapsing coz they haven't process yet what's happening on the surroundings.
the wtc's came down EXTREMELY HARD, but im surprised that they managed to bent those support pillars at 0:20
5 calls from the 95th floor. 😨
I subbed couple months ago for college football news but man your channel has quickly become my favorite because of the wide array of interesting topics
i worked on the floors that got hit. i survived because i was on a bender the night before and decided to sleep in
Wow
Man you lucky I’m sure you got ptsd Js from knowing you COULDVE been there….
A lot of people mysteriously did not show up that day. Was anyone else you know who worked there also partying the night before? Who were you guys partying with?
I remember footage of the underground shops weeks after the towers fell. It still had pristine, but dusty, newspapers of the early edition of 9/11, and all the clocks were frozen from the time power was cut when the tower (first I assume) fell.
The saddest day.
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What was sad about it?
Yes, but let's not completely ignore the other problems currently happening in the world.
@@darkchild666100who's ignoring anything? Why are you like this?
No sprinklers in the subways. 27 years in the fire protection industry in Nyc
Pat, there were and are three different stations at that site-- the Broadway Manhattan (R and W trains), the Seventh Avenue (1 train) and the PATH terminal. The R and W is on the east periphery of the WTC property and the uptown side of that station was the least damaged of all.
The 1 train suffered the most damage due to its proximity to the south tower if you go to the pools in the memorial you can see the South Pool and the new WTC cortlant station on the 1 just few feet apart from each other that’s how close they were the South tower is east to the station by few feet.
Forgot about the E station at Church St as well
@@blue9multimediagroup that station was a safe distance away so no damage was done
@@blue9multimediagroup I didn't forget it so much as I wanted to mention the stations that the towers literally fell onto.
I think it's the E train that ends at one of the WTC platforms now, but just before it enters, it passes some really dark tunnels and voids that extend beyond the platforms. I don't know if it's related but it makes me think of that dark day.
Here is a little more information about the Subway. So the WTC was served by the PATH (Port Authority Trans Hudson) to NJ and the IRT Broadway Line. The Port Authority had to take over PATH (which was a private and subsidized business) in order to build the WTC. They demolished the old Hudson Terminal building in Radio Row and built the old WTC path station. The image at 2:17 shows the Eastbound PATH tube coming out of the slurry wall and into the basement of the South Tower. Just behind the slurry wall is the IRT Broadway line (1 and 9 train) which also served the WTC at Courtland Street. A seven car PATH train was left at the WTC station on 9/11. Five cars were destroyed while cars 745 and 143 survived. They were originally going to be put in the 9/11 museum but were too large. So 745 was donated to the Shore Line Trolley Museum in CT, and 143 went to the Trolley Museum of New York. The 9 was suspended while the 1 was suspended south of Chambers Street. The 1 ran replaced the 3 to New Lots while the E train which served the WTC took over the C train from 168th-Euclid. The N & R trains which served the BMT Courtland Street station were suspended while the Q (Via Brighton) and W (Via West End) ran to Coney Island with the J going from Parsons to 95th street Bay Ridge while the M went from Metropolitan Av to Coney Island via Sea Beach.
I went to the transit museum in Kingston, Ny, and saw subway car 143. It’s one of the only 2 surviving trains cars. Unfortunately, I couldn’t see the inside if it at the time
It would be interesting to hear from people who were in the subway at the time of the attack attack
DG is our 9-11 expert. He's doing a great job to inform/entertain us
For entertainment purposes only.
@CashMullen-ng4sr You say that like if it’s an bad thing
PATH is not NYC Subway. 2 separate systems that both suffered damaged areas. PATH had the worst loss of the entire terminal under the WTC and has been rebuilt at a new location with better access.
Cortland St-WTC of the NYCT #1 Line was cleared of the damage and rebuilt in the same location.
i have an origional sign from a post in the station i got in 1969. Cortland Street World Train Center
I still say a video of the true footprint of the location of the original complex overlay compared to the memorial plaza today. I’ve been told west street was also moved so using West St of pre 9/11 as a reference point for today’s plaza is not accurate. I cannot find any documentation of how much the WSH was moved post 9/11.
As long as the giant squares are exactly where the buildings were , I don’t think people care if a surrounding street was moved or not
False
Nothing was changed regarding the streets other than certain ones removed during the original WTC construction were added back to the site.
The pools are on the exact site of the towers plus the first line of trees surrounding them.
And the plaza is the same as the old complex with slight changes.
One of the Path trains are at a local trolly museum near me in Kingston NY
There were no sprinklers. The standpipes were sheared off by the planes impact. The subway terminals were flooded from these pipes.
Keep in mind that Lower Manhattan has 2 different subway systems. The MTA system and the PATH system.
I often think of the security dog Sirus (sp) who died I believe under tower two. They recovered his kennel. I hope he didn't suffer for long.
That's not how fire sprinklers work.
The station you show in the beginning of the video was the NYC Subway. The PATH station is shown at 0:50
First thanks for the story and the video , awesome. Being an old North Bronx Mic building engineer who start as a super 's kid.. I love all the newyork videos about all the mechanics of the city Building were built with a perimeter support system and Osama was an engineer ( an American schooled one)so he recognized the building weakness .
it didn't have as much iron as a traditional constructed building the same size would . this cauase the pancake affect with all the sprinker and domestic water lines either broken or set off each floor gain weigh like crazy. till one collasped then made the next even more heavy and speed up the seperation from the outer frame works as the floors dropped down faster and faster. Another problem was the stairwells weren't concrete fire rated columns just double sheetrock, like the same as a garage at your house firerated for 3 hours.
But the subbasements ,parking, mall and the subway were build right with columns everywhere. Thanks again.
Hello everyone, this is a great video. The details match up and you did a very great job at explaining what happened to them. Although, I want to give more information about what happened to the cars that were in the subway during the collapse. One of the PATH cars was taken out and, obviously put at the 9/11 Museum. But you may be wondering what happened to the other path train. That train was brought over miles down to Connecticut on a truck. It now rests at the Shoreline Trolley Museum also down in Connecticut, it still is operable, thanks to the masters over there that helped repair the mechanics, and on some days it is taken out for excursion trains, Say the Trolley Parade that happens every start of operating season. I actually volunteer there, there is a whole section inside one of the sheds dedicated just to that PATH train and we put up memorials, informational boards, informational videos, sculptures and more. It’s a great experience if you want to learn more about what happened to the subway cars themselves. In fact, that picture that he showed with some of the cars being dug out of the ground, one of those cars are the ones here. Just wanted to put a bit more information about what happened to the cars themselves, great video. Bye!
To clarify:
Car 745 is the car from the WTC collapse. It is exhibited as a static display inside one of the museum's car barns. It is preserved as it was (ads, etc.) except that the lighting was changed to LEDs because the original lighting was powered by the under-car equipment which was flooded after 9/11. It rolls (it was towed into position at the museum by car 503, see below) but isn't going to move under its own power again. That would be a huge job and would involve replacing most of the under-car equipment which would turn it into something different than a surviving 9/11 car.
Car 503 is a H&M (precursor to PATH) car which Al Zelazo has lovingly restored over 40+ years. It is fully operable (I helped move it out of Building 8 and "down the hill" a few weeks ago) and is also period-correct regarding ads and interior fittings.
745 being moved into position by 503: www.bera.org/pnaerc-photos/photo-6033.jpg
Additional information and pictures: heritagerail.org/2015/11/911-survivor-to-shore-line-museum/
It's hard to think despite what happened this was quickly repaired and is now the sight of the PATH station and Westfield mall
The train cars that were recovered, and you show in the very beginning of the video are actually path commuter rail cars, they are not subway line cars
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day now.
I have always wondered what happend to the subway on 9/11. Welp now I know!
thank you for sharing i will never forget that day because my birthday is on 9/11 but thank you for the video have a great day and God Bless
Crazy as hell I was in that Train station 7 months Earlier coming from J and R. Going back uptown. The eerie part. That I went into the building the the plane hit first, then down to the Mezzanine or lower level to go to this station.i end up by the area outside of the parking lot 15 feet away from where it happened 8 years earlier to 30 feet with the building behind me of Where it was going to happen again 6 months later. Then a creepy cold feeling came over me. I'm not surprised if the pic of courtland is where I walked towards the end before I take the back stairs to the A train and ended up in Park place. I literally walked a half of a block underground. I give it that you really have to live New York. This happening was just so terrible that so many lives lost on that day and the city at a stand still was all to surreal.
Just curious but why do the subway trains have window wipers?
Condensation, water dripping through the cracks, water from rain puddled around the tracks splashing up. It's never really dry down there.
l6365 That makes sense, cheers
Standard equipment.
What I’d like to see is the rebuilding of the subway, they called it the breadbox. I don’t remember if trains ran through the the still exposed debris pit that was in the process of being sifted through.
No. They didn't let trains though until everything was clear
I had a friend who worked for Verizon that was brought in very shortly after 9/11 to assess the damage to their systems down there. I got to see video he shot that has never been publicly released very soon after everything happened. It was awful.
They were very skeptical of showing any of the public even in New York any photos. I didn't see any of it until the do the Documentaries the end in 2004 . A whole lot of years later because of the Nick Cage movie. Seriously annoyed and adds to heartbreak even worse.
I was there that morning, I had left awhile before the stores were going to open. I saw only one "construction worker" come out the tunnel that was closed for construction. Only one tunnel was open
shot of pentagon was facing towards the east. so, not sunset, but sunrise.
Subway not being totalled may be a bit less surprising than it seems.
Yes, the fall of such massive building would release tremendous amount of energy. And yet the amount of energy needed to bring down such massive building is also tremendous.
I think, it may be quite possible that most of the energy released during the collapse of Twin Towers was spent on the collapse itself. And thus when the crumpling towers stroke the ground level, most of the energy of their fall may have been already spent.
Please, do keep in mind that I am not a physicist though. Just speaking a though I had.
Were you surprised when ninety percent of the bodies along with ninety percent of the towers were missing from the debris pile ?
re: flooding "Probably due to the fire suppression sprinkler system"
How high is the water table in the area? sump pump failure and cracked linings in the aftermath of 9/11 seems like it could be an additional factor but I'm only offering this as a wild guess.
It's water from the towers.
People reported seeing rivers of water flooding down the stairs. All the vitals were in the central core of the buildings. This included elevator shafts, stairs, and the power and water facilities.
This would have included pumps and reservoirs at numerous levels, to be able to push the water upward in stages.
The engineering you need to pump water up 100+ floors, fighting gravity, to service thousands of people with bathrooms and kitchens on every floor, means that there would have been thousands upon thousands of tons of water inside those towers at the moment of impact. When the planes severed those vital lines all that water would have been moving at great speed downward and would gather at the lowest point.
@@ct5625 Okay yeah that makes the most sense
The reason most of the underground floors survived more or less intact. Was due to the towers turning to dust, even the engineers were surprised at how little damage the slurry wall sustained after the twin collapses. I highly recommend reading Where Did The Towers Go? By Judy Wood, it’s a real eye opener and the best explanation for what actually happened to the trade center.
So did they just vaporize then? Horrific!!
@@sirwi11iam they used a new technology in order to make them “collapse”. She’s made several vids too, it’s all very interesting if u want I can send u a link to one of them.
Indeed! Dr. Wood nails it.
@@sirwi11iam I think people have a hard time understanding the physical forces involved in this collapse. And there's good reason to be dumbfounded by it. We've never seen anything like it in Human history.
Most of the structure was concrete and rebar. The mass of the floors collapsing on each other would have generated so much force that it would be almost like one of those pneumatic presses you see crushing all kinds of objects, only this would have been at speed.
Objects did survive, like pieces of phones or items from someone's desk, but this would have likely only been because those objects were ejected through a window during the collapse, or they were on one of the very top floors which wouldn't have sustained the crushing forces below.
NYC subway trains run through all of nyc. Path trains go as far as Newark penn station which is in New Jersey through journal square in Jersey city, Secaucus nj, WTC, a few stops through lower manhattan like soho/Tribeca & last stop 33rd or 34th street near the big macys in midtown manhattan where they hold the thanksgiving day parade at.That being the last stop & back to Jersey for those who are not from the ny/nj area.
the pipes of the fire suppression system would have been full of water that had putrefied over the years as it sat there waiting to be used.
You’re mixing up 2 different Subway systems, the NYC Subway and the PATH Subway. The pic at 0:23 is the Cortlandt St NYC 1 strain station. All the subway cars you’re showing are the PATH subway cars.
So this part of the subway was never rebuilt and reopened? Did they construct a new line near it?
00:55 A flooded NY subway station was part of "Conspiracy Theory" with Mel Gibson.
What a sad day... I couldn't believe that was happening 😢😢
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Amazing how they were unable to have a single person above the hit point
I believe the stairwell for the subway is part of the museum if I remember correctly I was there an you want to talk about ery the 911 museum an the whole memorial you can feel what happened that day an it’s hard to believe 2 towers were there but it’s a thing that you should if your in that area of New York
Regarding the water, don't forget the debris pile smoldered for a couple of weeks afterwards. They were constantly pouring water on that to cool it down. I don't think the photos of the flooded station were immediately after the collapse but later on, after the fire was out. So that is likely where most of that water came from.
I really want to say **thanks** for something you said; something that I have been saying since day one. It's highly inappropriate to say "that can't happen that way" when there is in fact NO PRECEDENT for this kind of incident to say what can or can't happen. Creating conspiracy theories because of some a-holes assumptions (not based on physics or engineering) is just disgusting behavior. I want to vomit ever time I see those claims. There was a "documentary" released shortly after 9-11 that put forth a lot of half truths by cherry picking only what evidence agreed with their theory. Out of the hundreds who saw the planes, there was one guy who didn't. He just heard an explosion. He said "it was like a bomb going off". So they say "well see, the building was bombed". Similarly, they produced some "expert" who claimed the towers could not possible have fallen as fast at they did. The "expert" claimed that it was supposed to collapse 1 floor, then hold in mid air for 1 second before the next floor would collapse. Well, I'm no engineer but as it turns out neither was he. A quick check of his credentials led to a fake college website which was really just an ad for his book about how the towers should have collapsed more slowly. As I checked the credentials of several of their sources, it became obvious the producers were liars just trying to profit off a truly heinous act.
As stated in the video (and known from reporting), the subway system was flooding immediately after the initial impacts of the planes but before the collapse of the buildings.
The water flooding the subways was from the impact of the planes severing the massive system of pumps and reservoirs needed to push so much water up hundreds of floors to service thousands of bathrooms and kitchens. The central core of each building was where all the facilities were. This included elevators, stairs, electrical, water, pumps, reservoirs, fire suppression systems and so on. We know the central cores were damaged significantly because the elevators fell, and people above the areas of impact couldn't escape through the stairs.
And ditto on your second point. The "truther" loons will fixate on any little thing they can but everything they try has been debunked a billion times over the last two decades. None of their nonsense is based on facts, on science, on physics or any evidence at all. It's a cult and little else.
Correct ! You are no engineer . A fake plant 🪴would be your title
@@ct5625 what did one fake plant say to the other? Ditto on your second point 🪴🪴🪴🪴🪴🪴🪴🪴🪴🪴
Probably not but I’m curious if you can still visit this subway (is it open to the public for people to see or is it blocked off)
I believe they have completely redesigned the subway system underneath the new building and none of the old subway system is accessible. However, the museum under the new building does have part of the original massive concrete retaining wall you see in the old photo of the subway being built.
So what happened to the tunnels and stations? Were they rebuilt or just filled in to make the ground above stable?
The 1 train station reopened in 2017-2018. The PATH Station was destroyed and was replaced by a temporary station and now the oculus serves PATH
Really interesting thanks DG!!
Each of the twin towers collapsed with the force of 2.8 on the Richter scale.
Anything more, and the Hudson River would have breached the ‘bathtub’ and flooded all of lower Manhattan.
And the pneumatic force of the towers collapsing should have sent those train carriages miles up the line.
Wow, that is something I never imagined. Thanks for the info
"pneumatic force"?
This wasn't a closed system. Where is the pneumatic force being generated when two massive buildings crumble and collapse to the earth? You seem to be imagining these buildings to be like syringes filled with air.
None of that is even remotely related to basic physical reality.
Please watch "Where Did the Towers Go- Dr. Judy Wood. Give us your commentary on that. Thank you.
No thanks. We're not here for someone's crazy conspiracy theories!
@@jeffbrubaker5228 so dont
@@jeffbrubaker5228 truth is horrifically painful sometimes, I say with all respect. how shattered my world was when no longer was a false narrative even possible. we come to truth in our own time, but where this country is headed, the clock is winding down
I don't believe the water came from the sprinklers. Normally, subway station sprinklers are connected to a dry hydrant on the surface and firefighters must connect the latter to a wet hydrant. This design is precisely to prevent damage caused by water.
They were saying that it was probably going to flood and I was thinking of the titanic type subway pics...😮 it didn't flood how I imagined.
Love everything you do man💙💛
7:52 wow that looks apocalyptic.
I hadn't thought of this element. Are they still there abandoned or what's the sitch.
nah bro they got removed and replaced
I wonder how many calls came from the other WTC buildings
I want to make myself perfectly clear, I’ve always supported John Fisher in coming to Vegas, mainly cause I don’t want Oakland to have a team period and I truly did believe that the Vegas Stadium would create much more needed jobs for the Vegas economy, as I matter of fact I still do.
However even I’m starting to wonder if the A’s might wind up in Utah after all.
See here’s my perspective on Vegas overall on the A’s period.
I believe there are some here who rather have expansion, mainly because they don’t trust Fisher and they don’t like the way he conducts business, whether those reasons are valid or not, I believe Vegas as a whole could be hurting ourselves with MLB and our majority attitude towards Fisher.
I know it’s the plan of some here, to publicly unwelcome Fisher and Manfried will give us expansion eventually.
That’s the mistake, expansion isn’t guaranteed to Vegas at all and to be frank, which usually I am, if Vegas doesn’t make it work with the A’s and Fisher, I’m about 99% certain we won’t ever get an MLB team period, I’m highly confident in saying that.
Honestly, I feel in Vegas best move is to be more welcoming of Fisher publicly, let him get here, cause I don’t think, he’s going to be the sole owner more than 7 years anyways.
We should’ve kept our mouths shut here and let Oakland people pile the dirt on Fisher.
Anyhow I’m starting to think that perhaps Utah has a 40% chance of getting the A’s instead of Vegas.
Fisher still wants Vegas because of the support he’s receiving from important sources here, but the state of Utah is more welcoming.
I see Utah’s game, they have publicly been supporting the A’s along with expansion, basically happy whatever they get.
This should’ve been Vegas residents play, meanwhile may wind up with nothing A’s nor expansion.
Do we know if there were people dead there?
Yes bodies and body parts everywhere
the twin tower complex had subway underneath it kinded weird🤨😧😯
Why do you keep referring to the PATH train as the subway? They are two completely different systems that do not connect aside from passenger concourses. Another thing is that there were no “buildings” underground - simply just floors connecting different things like commercial spaces and the subway and path train. The reason why the entire area didn’t collapse is because it was built properly, and the buildings fell mostly straight down onto themselves and the collapsed areas were primarily in the buildings footprints. The damage you see is not collapse, but debris from the buildings penetrating in through the street above. Maybe a little less focus on turning out a video every day and more time focused on knowing what you are talking about and getting the facts correct.
0:26 "it hosted _guests_ " ?
hold up they had calls on floor 95 in the impact zone how
People survived that initial impact.
Unfortunately, there is video of at least half a dozen people standing in the open impact points waving for help.
Thousands of lives were saved when the subway operators diverted trains away from the World Trade Centre.
nice video...helllo from poland ...
5:03 - A photograph of president Blowmonkey before 9/11.
3:59 😂
I was so confused when I saw that.. .like.. what is going on? 😂😂😂😂
@@michaelstrahan2.0I just never have heard Depressed Ginger make a mocking voice before. 🤗
That’s a PATH tube at about the 2:25 mark
Very interesting
You mixed up the before and after on the thumbnail.
Such destruction also occurred in the Berlin U-Bahn and S-Bahn network during World War II. The subway had it worst in the area around Wittenbergplatz. The subway station there had been totally destroyed by Air Rail. From the street, you could see into the tunnel through the bomb hits. In the case of the S-Bahn, things were different. Here, the German troops blew up the north-south tunnel in the area of the Spree and the Landwehr Canal. Due to the explosion in the S-Bahn tunnel, it was filled with water. However, this effect also had consequences for the subway. At Friedrichstraße station, the water ran into the subway tunnel. As a result, large parts of Berlin's subway network were no longer usable. Thanks for the video, by the way. I had never seen pictures from the tunnel of the WTC since 9/11. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven
Do u know if South ferry got damaged on 9/11 ?
No. Just the Courtlandt St station.
South Ferry did get severely damaged during Hurricane Sandy in 2012, necessitating an almost complete rebuild of the station which only opened three years earlier. That station replaced the small, notorious 1905 station with its VERY noisy curved loop track.
Why would it? It's almost a mile to the south.
@@blue9multimediagroup what about the Brooklyn bridge or wall st stations ?
No the south Ferry is 6 blocks away close to Battery park.
MUST YOU START SENTENCES WITH "SO"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed opportunity to put subway surfers gameplay on the side for the whole video
Would have enhanced the video's quality by 10,000%. Although it is good on it's own, hopefully this will be present in all future uploads
You are confusing 911 with super storm sandy. There are no sprinklers in the NYC subway system.
The Towers weren't built until the 1970s.
Nope 60's. It open in 1973. Finished in 1969 and 1970.
@@timafiggy I guess I was remembering when they opened. You're right.
@@19irving it was just so nice. It was like a city under the city. Sad and the lower level from Tower one going to the station was the Courtyard. The bannister was exactly the barrier around the original memorial from 1993. It was somewhat lonely. There was a small store where everyone gets a paper or coffee or even candy or gum before they went to get their cars in the parking lot which was to the right of the stairs . The memorial is in the Courtyard in the middle architecture wise and nowhere else near tower 3 and 4 because the parking lot that got destroyed also destroyed the stairs going to the subway. now this pic in this video is so heartbreaking.
Great Work! Why is this not 9 minutes 11 seconds?
“The towers look so much smaller in this [picture with George W. Bush]”
George replies: “Damn right.” 😂
Bush Jr., Mr. INSIDE JOB!
Thumbnail is backwards ,
Know what you’re talking about. There are no sprinkler systems in the subway per se. If water came in, it was from water that firefighters were using to hold the flames at bay in the towers. Don’t speculate about things you don’t know.
I’m a retired NYCT subway conductor. By the way, you are mixing subway pics with pics of the PATH. PATH is a totally different system. That piece starts and ends with a WTC terminal and runs to Hoboken NJ. There are transfers in NJ to one or two other Path lines. It connects with a monorail to Newark Airport. It goes to Jersey City. It also connects with a light rail to Bayonne. It connects to NJ Transit train service too. PATH means Port Authority Trans Hudson. Once it crosses the Hudson River it is in NJ.
NYCT is New York City Transit. It’s part of the MTA. It runs 4 borough service within NYC only - Bronx, Manhattan, Queens & Brooklyn. It has a train division & bus division. The bus division also serves Staten Island.
Staten Island has its own single line railway. It doesn’t connect with the subway. It’s part of the MTA but it’s called SIR. It connects to the Staten Island Ferry.
the thumbnail is reversed lol
dg can i get a hi
You can get a hi from the freedom tower too :)
"What happened to the Gold under the WTC"
"Some $375 million in gold and silver buried beneath the World Trade Center since the Sept. 11 attacks that destroyed the financial district landmark has been found and is being relocated, the custodian for the metals said on Wednesday"
Took me 10 seconds to find out.
This was reported in October of 2001, btw.
Another "truther" cult fixation repeatedly debunked, but the cult has so little to pin their delusions on they just pretend that reality isn't real.
I’d also like to point out the fact that, in the official narrative, they try to say that the weight of the floors above coming down on the floor below it is enough to cause a cascade effect, causing every subsequent floor beneath to give out and collapse at free fall speed, yet the ENTIRE FUCKING WEIGHT of the entire building collapsing into the street below wasn’t enough force to completely collapse the subway tunnels underneath …. Not sure how that makes sense, but y’all just keep believing the official story (that’s what it is, just a story as fake as the ones you tell your kids before they go to sleep … )
The US government has been caught in SO MANY fuckin lies .. is it really to hard to believe that the people in charge (it’s not the government as a whole.. it’s the few bad actors that have other people making the plans and talking into their ear, like bush jr.. his daddy was giving him orders his entire presidency.. there’s a reason he only had one term) wouldn’t sacrifice American lives to further their political agenda ?
During the Cuban missile crisis, the CIA actually presented JFK an operation called OPERATION NORTHWOODS , which was a plan to shoot down American planes, blow up predetermined targets in Florida and Washington D.C., and blow up a couple U.S. warships in ports in Cuba to gather public support to send troops into Cuba to secure the Russian missile sites, because the American public wouldn’t have supported a beach landing/invasion without some sort of catalyst..
we were lucky that JFK wasn’t a psychopath, and he decided to vetoe the operation, but if the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general Lyman Lemnitzer had his way, the operation would’ve been executed..
funny enough, the rejection of this operation caused the people who are actually in charge of the president, the private military contract companies like Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed skunkwory etc. to become wary of JFK, and tried to say JFK was anti-military and didn’t support the military industrial complex or the war on communism..
decisions such as vetoing an operation that would allow the military industrial complex to move forward with their agenda, are what got JFK killed ..
jFK wanted to be honest with the American public.. he wanted to lower/get rid of completely, the military industrial complex’s influence and control over the American government and the people of America .. unfortunately he was killed for it, and Robert Kennedy jr knows what his uncle was trying to achieve.. he knows why his uncle was killed, and he’s fighting to make JFKs wishes and dream a reality
It does make sense, because of PHYSICS.
If you people spent even a tenth of your time opening a book and reading a little scientific reality you wouldn't be constantly embarrassing yourselves on the internet.
But please, by all means, spend another TWENTY YEARS following your cult delusions and making absolutely no difference to the world, while the rest of us get on with our lives understanding reality, science, physics, and evidence.
"… the towers had fell." Where did you learn English?
Could you blow your nose before commenting ?
People have been lied to about who did this, it was clearly an inside job and a very well coordinated one at that.
With George W. Bush Jr. and Rudy Giuliani as the main players.
If that's true they will meet their maker..but they probably don't believe in God anyway.so what's the use in preaching..none😇☘️😺🌹