How Pinball Survived Video Games, the Mob and Politics | WIRED
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In this episode of Obsessed we meet Michael Schiess, a pinball enthusiast who collects and repairs old machines in an effort to preserve them for future generations.
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How Pinball Survived Video Games, the Mob and Politics | WIRED
This is insane. I’m one of the locals that go here all the time and it’s not very well known so it’s amazing that there’s finally a video by WIRED about this place.
Same, love the place
I would actually travel there just to see it!
Pinball will never die. We have a pinball arcade in Tucson called D&D Pinball. They have around 35 tables and a few video games. The place is slammed on Saturday nights.
Yeah i don't see pinball ever becoming obsolete it's kind of it's own type thing
In Orlando we have The Pinball Lounge. They have maxed out their space with 32 machines. Friday night is $10 for all the pinball you can handle from 8pm-12am and tournaments every Tuesday night. When ever a new machine comes out they have it THAT DAY.
Its like playing pool. its not going away because its kind of its own thing.
I love the Pacific Pinball Museum in my hometown of Alameda, Ca! Ironically we also got a retro arcade too called High Scores Arcade.
This looks like a kids childhood dream
My jealousy is immeasurable
my jealousy is immeasurable and my day is brightened
Who else remembers Space Cadet 3D Pinball
When there was no internet, I used to play it a lot.
I still have it pinned on my taskbar
Good old memories when I was 6, now I'm 15 :(
What a great story on Michael and his work with pinball! This guy is doing an amazing job of preserving and promoting a really cool entertaining mechanical form of art. Even if you just take it as pure entertainment, it's awesome! I'd love to tour his facility. I really dig the old electromechanical machines and haven't played one since the early 80s at a friend's house who had a Monte Carlo.
Ah yes, the Williams® Gulf Stream. Remember that game quite well from the era when the amusement companies were transitioning from five to three balls per play. Funny thing about this machine is that the recommended score for first replay at three balls/play was set ridiculously low in my opinion (29,000 points IIRC). The old "quarter trick" still worked on Williams® machines then, too :)
Pretty much all of my extended family lives in Utah, so my family goes to visit them on a semi-regular basis, and since I live in California, our route goes straight through Vegas. One time, we decided to stay the night there since it was getting late. The next day, we figured we'd go do something fun before we set off for Utah again, and we settled on the Las Vegas Pinball Hall of Fame, which is pretty much exactly like the place in this video. It was amazing. Before I went there, I had never truly played a pinball machine. The only pinball machines I had seen were at my neighbor's house, an Indiana Jones one at Disneyland, and a destroyed on in an abandoned house at a campsite. If I had the money, I'd absolutely have a pinball machine of my own.
You are a legend mate. Pinball rocks!
1700 machines? This guy's museum belongs in Las Vegas. Light & Wonder (formerly WMS Industries or Williams and Ballys) needs to buy this guy's collection and start a museum. I reckon they would do well in Vegas with this collection.
I do believe I could happily vacation in Alameda. Well played, Mr. Schiess. Well played indeed!
It’s always cool when I go to a place and they have old pinball machines that you can play. I think I saw the one at 8:12 (Fireball) at a place in St. Louis
Slugging Champ is seen from 2:11 to 2:16.I wish that there were one of them here in the East.
Pinball are forever, you can't get the same feelings with virtual.
I remember liking Sonic Spinball. I feel like it really evolved what pinball could be.
this dudes killin it
Bride of Pin-bot anyone?
*I CAN SPEAK*
*oh NO*
Amazing collection.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing this. :)
On my way to go look for the pinball machine he threw into the ocean
Hope you found it!
Imagine everything burns.
P I N B A L L
Everybody's favorite arcade game of all time even though there are a lot of video games, online games, or any games trending nowadays.
Man:who want this 25,000 pinball
Thisguy:i buy all your stock
This is why I can't find parts.
2:50 Gotta' worth in that display man!
Love the machines, hate the repairing. Time to fire up Pinball FX again, I guess...
*Jefree Star approved*
Nobody tell him about the Pinball FX series.
Pinball FX is terrible.
Before I got the Gulfstream the only decent pinball I could find was Pinball Dreams on the Amiga. The split screen PC games were infuriating. But that only lasted a few months and I was jonesing for the real thing. Then it got out of hand... but now we have a great collection and a depository of pinball history. Sharing pinball, education and preservation is the mission of our museum.
NICE
I love weed too but pinball intensives it
Intensifies
He said 🗣👊 ⚽️
apex and fortnite? really?
I know right. Although they're at their peak popularity right now. But their are so many other popular video games out right now like GTA, Tetris, Pokemon, COD, super mario, Minecraft, roblox and so many more. But still Apex and Fortnite dose not really sum up all the video games in the current video game generation. Both Fortnite and Apex are both in the FPS battle royal genera of games which is a small genera out of all the others. Plus if you where to go to a pop couture store or a gamestop it's not like most of the video game related merch is based off of Fortnite and Apex. At the same time barely know anything about Apex.
Pinball machines are cool yes but now adays they are expensive they take up too much Room and there is not much constant replay in them and you have to buy different kinds to make them fun and you need the same size of Space that you have so not everyone in this world is going to have the room or the money except this man so that is why it was Easier and cheaper to make console gaming
Boo hoo
wHEre iS ThE sUpReMe OnE???
rivieria, cosmo...no pic...the mecca evo...well ok......
Hey guys: Thanks for sharing this video. I've used it in a post on my blog, LIFE-BUILT POEMS: LIVING OUT LOUD.
Here's the link for it: lifebuiltpoems.com/play-a-mean-pinball-yes-you-can/
Fortnite and Apex Legends being synonymous with gaming? Blech, just stop Wired. We get that you're trying to say 'before video games' but please don't just use two battle royale games to represent the entire history of video games.
Meh.
Like it or not, that's what like 90% of kids are playing these days. Talk to a kid about video games, chances are the first game they'll mention will be one of those two.
@@theharvardyard2356 These games actually occur for a time. Folks enjoy them.
Battle Royale evolved due to issues with the Multiplayer aspect of the games industry.
Machines are still amazing.
I enjoy analog too.
I have a daughter. She is too busy coding music to care. Grin.
Yep. That's when I stopped the video and left the page. Stewed on it a bit and came back here to see if anybody else was just put off by it.
What is an apex? What is a fortnite?
meh, only 1700
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I thought this was going to be Jeffree start when I click on the video
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3:42 "He actually cleaned up New York City" as they are tossing slot machines into the river... smh
@Cold SnapI assume RetroBerner is referring to literally dumping trash in the river while claiming to clean up the city.
Hey the guys wearing concrete shoes need to have something to do down there.
Well are people Living At the Bottom of that River ? No Check Mate Atheist
was juuust gonna say the same thing.. wtf!? Into the Hudson they go!
@@MingkGoat I don't think they though about the environment at all back then
He needs to do a collaboration with @jablinskigames !!!
I could spend days if not weeks looking round that warehouse. Absolutely a pinaholics idea of heaven.
lol.... dont like slot machines? just drop them in the ocean.... what a nice idea...........
Same reason boardgames have made a resurgence : tactility and socialising
Agreed! I’m sick of all the licensed themes. I wish people would come up with their own themes and original artwork now days. That’s part of what made Pinball what it is but now unfortunately it’s what people steer clear of. It’s just like Hollywood over saturating the market with stupid superhero movies.
Agree. While I do appreciate Stern keeping pinball alive, I feel they are too focused on licenses, especially since most of them don't appeal to me and they don't really have a gimmick to make them stand out. They did recently make a 3rd game in the Black Knight series though.
I started to play pinball in about 1952, I remember all of the machines you showed. Once while traveling across country in 1960 I remember in Illinois a machine that you lined up numbers to win money. I did love a machine made by Gottlieb, it was called kewpie doll or just Kewpie not sure which. I would love to see that machine again. I have search but haven't found it. If anyone seeing this knows of that machine please reply. Thanks
This was so cool! I loved all that awesome mid century art!
I love the pacific pinball museum! A perfect day is driving up there, playing pinball and getting dim sum for lunch up the street.
I like arcade games but I have always loved playing pinball, luckily my local gaming place Scene 75 has some vintage pinball machines to play, some of my favorites are the Terminator, Addams family, Sopranos and Jurassic Park pinball machines
Holy crap, the Annex is straight out of the end of _Raiders!_ Jeez, and I thought the Pinball Hall of Fame museum in Vegas was impressive. Kind of weird that (unless I missed it), they never mentioned the _location_ of the Pacific Pinball Museum (Alameda, San Francisco Bay area).
About one year ago I went to my granddaughters roller skating birthday party and they had a pinball machine it cost $0.50 for three balls put in 50 cents played for 4 hours the regulars to the skating rink started coming in and complaining I was hogging the machine the owner of the skating rink came over and offered me $10 to stop playing I took it I played for 4 hours and made $9.50 I'm 53 years old and I didn't know I still had it pinball wizard
I haven't been there but when I show up people can take pictures of me with the pinball machines in the background. The is Tommy Tutalidge (Tommy Tutalidge on facebook and usenet the man that ruled rec.games.pinball) the man that rules the world of pinball. The fine line between mortality and immortality a the real Tommy a the world champion. Still at age 60 the fastest player alive.
I love his enthusiasm, self ironi and pleasant personality! He makes me want to go to arcades more often :D
Awesome collection but didn't see the need for him to crap on arcade games, I collect both
I do too but hes got a right to his opinion,still seems like a cool guy
The guy was actually right I saw what video games did to video games players since the days of pong in the pinball arcades. The worse games had to be mortal combat. I used to play pinball 12 hours a day for the last 50 years and I saw it all in the pinball arcades. These video games not only taught people how to lose but loused up their mind.
I hope to visit the Pinball museums someday 🎰😀❤️
"And here is footage of gaming and engineering history being casually discarded into a river."
1,700 pinball machines < 1 Polybius Machine
Amazing collection! It makes me think of the Haruki Murakami short story Pinball 1973. The warehouse filled with pinball machines just so happens to be a reality.
Great exposé. America needs more buildings across it that look like this.
100% on that Original Art and themes or something that can be Timeless like my 79' Hulk and Sinbad. both listened but a timeless theme. A lot of the new movie theme games are just that advertisements on 4 legs and in 20 years... part of a forgotten time
love classic Pins
Hit the billion in indiana jones flipper is the best thing!
3am at night and I'm watching a video about how a guy owns a *pinball museum*
i would want one though
So LaGuardia was the Devil?
This is Heaven. Literally. If I die and God lets me into the Pearly Gates this is what I want heaven to be. Nothing but miles of pinball machines.
Would remind me of the good old days where when I walked into any pinball arcade on Earth every jaw would drop and many would run out the door. That was my life and every pinball arcade was the same a the real Tommy a the world champion. The fine line between mortality and immortality a the real Tommy a the world champion. I ruled the world of pinball since the days of the Tommy movie and also ruled rec.games.pinball on usenet. Still the fastest player alive at age 60. Here's how I played pinball I'd play 1 ball against 5 or 1 ball against 3 then if they survived I'd keep on raising the angle of the pinball machine/machines until they drop. I use to only play pinball machines at a 10 degree arc angle.
I would love to start my own museum of pinball and mybe the old arcade machines
LOVE this! 💓 More than 100 years later, pinball has evolved without dying (just like 🎭, 📖, and 📻).
What a stupid statement against Video game players 0:46! I love both Pinball and Arcade/video games! Nothing wrong with either. Both entertain me greatly!
Massive collection. Lucky to have the space.
I finally met Michael in person at the PPM Annex in 2017 during my 30,000 mile pinball tour across America and Canada. It is quite an adventure to maintain and play these machines, and they represent a critical part of American cultural history. Pinball is also a wonderful learning platform for electrical circuitry and reclaiming the "touch knowledge" to work on mechanical parts we've lost over the years and outsourced to China. If you'd like to join us and play in some local tournaments or even own your own machine... be sure to join the Pinball Enthusiasts group and EM Pinball group on Facebook as well as Pinside.com - the largest pinball forum on the internet.
I now run the Roanoke Pinball Museum in downtown Roanoke, Virginia and spend my days teaching pinball school and maintaining these wonderful machines. C'mon by and say hello if you are in the area!
Crazy how something that seems so banal to me,
can be the life-long dream of someone else.
I liked pinball when I was younger and recently got back into it, thanks to The Pinball Arcade, though they have been really lacking lately with releases. I played a few pinball games at my local Round 1, but they don't seem to be well taken care of, especially since the ball occasionally gets stuck around the jet bumpers for some reason.
There's a place called Museum of Pinball not too far away from me, which has a very impressive collection of pinball games, but for some reason, is only open a few times a year for special events. But I would like to go when it's convenient.
One thing I don't get about pinball history is, how did EM tables remain so popular for decades? They have very simple layouts, every game sounded just about the same, the theme of the table usually had nothing to do with how you played the game, and it looked like playing these tables got old fast, compared to the tables starting in the mid 80s through today where the layout and rules got a lot more complex and it seemed like there were endless ways to score and get bonuses.
Where do you live? California or at least SoCal has plenty places and not just round 1. My brother went to the museum in the video recently. I don't play much of the older games like the early 80s or 70s machines.
@@alejandroramirez4470 Riverside, California. There’s a few arcades near me with pinball machines I know of.
@ArtNGame215 nice, I like riverside game lab. Orange county has machines in lots of places but mission control and captain's arcade showroom has more machines than the average brewery or bar. Pinball map is a great way to find machines.
The way I see it Pinball is surviving very well in it's original format cause not many people have worked on that many good pinball video games for home computers and home video consoles. Although there have been some noticeably popular ones from the past 20 years like the Sierra online's 3d ultra pinball games and Microsoft Xp's Space cadet along with a few others. But really going out and playing pinball on a real Pinball Machine is more of something you really have to experience in person. At the same when playing these "virtual" pinball video games you don't get the full experience when actually playing on a real machine like this: You want to play pinball but you have no quarters or just want to keep spending those quarters until you reach a new high score or something like that.
I wonder if he has the one that had three levels I think it was called black hole. I also looked the Starwars one where r2d2 popped up and took your ball
I’m sure he does. Those pinballs are very popular. Most collectors love those tables.
Right on Mike! Great video guys;)
This fella is the luckiest fella in the universe.
Too bad 1982 Gottlieb Haunted House Pinball Machine wasn't featured in this video, 3 triple deck, great backglass artwork, and best music (bass) ever.
Does anyone know how this museum compares to the one in Las Vegas? I've been to that one, it was decent. But I don't think it had a lot of the really old stuff.
2:01 I thought that said "Don't wash balls" Until I rewound. Which you can use the J K L keys for*
I am in complete agreement with the host about the media licensing takeover of pinball. Pinball art was better when it was original.
Because it's real! It's artwork and lights. My daughter loves world cup 94. It's something everyone can enjoy.
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Wow... LaGuardia outlawed pinball machines? Why are so many schools named after him?
I want to go here so bad I've been a pinball head since I was 10 now I'm 38 bout to turn 39 this Sunday I love pinball still
I've been to a place that looks just like this in Vegas!
That's the pinball hall of fame. I've never been there but it's on my bucket list
I've been here, its where I learned that there actually IS such a thing as too much pinball. I'd never before had enough quarters to reach that point.
Um... ya I’ll just take all of these plus the building thank you very much.
where did you get those large pinball pictures or posters.
Just downloaded a pinball app on my phone
Cleaned up new york... as they throw machines into the river... 😅
Captain fantastic wasn't just a milestone with the start of licensing it was a really good machine to play really a lot of fun
Some of the Williams tables have magnetic ball saves and some have kickback lanes.
Very good video. I went to his museum a few years ago.
I loved this place! Aka Lucky Juju. I’ve spent many an hour at the Pacific Pinball in Alameda.
look at all those machines he got.. i am wondering why they are so expensive.. well now i know why
Jeffree star has been found wigless
I thought you were on about Jeffree Star with all the machines he's got lmao
Where is this located??? i now have 9 machines in my house, and the wife is ready to move out!! Pinball will always beat video games, because there is no pattern. every game is different. never gets boring.
Rusty The Raver it’s in Alameda, CA. Thanks for watching!