During the bet mgm big story, Jessie asked for the odds of Anaheim beating Chicago in the Stanley Cup final, and Adam said the odds aren't available. That's probably because both teams are in the West, so that match up is impossible.
Do I have to remind you that Tampa went against Montreal in a cup final? Both are eastern teams. It's not that a final Anaheim-Chicago is impossible, it's just extremely unlikely! 😂
@sebastiencarrieres8825 and do I have to remind you that, that year the north division was technically in the western conference which led the Montreal Canadians hoisting the Western Conference Trophey. As an Atlantic team. So that year it was possible. But any other year, it is not
I became a fan of the Buffalo Sabres in 2014 when I fell in love with the sport of hockey. 10 years later, the Buffalo Sabres are making hate hockey more by the day.
This is why I decided to pick a new hockey team when I left Buffalo years ago. I'm still so upset about how Jack Eichel was treated by the organization. They ruined themselves time and time again, and the fans are paying the price.
One of my favourite 'dang-it moments' for whatever reason was one of the prospect pyramids where either at or near the very beginning Steve sets the whiteboard up and excitedly exclaims 'THE PROSPECT PYRAMID!' only for the whiteboard to then immediately fall over and him groan and make a jump cut to talking about the budget he's working with or something of that nature. The groan he makes upon it falling so quickly gets me everytime lol
I tried to hold my laughter when Adam compared Josh Allen to Jack Eichel. In reality it would be on the lines of this: McDavid: Patrick Mahomes Matthews: Josh Allen Eichel: Matt Stafford
So as a Florida resident im interested in how they’re going to make this work lol. Marlins Park has a retractable roof but in the winter time the absolute COLDEST it could get in south Florida is below 60 degrees, also its unpredictable when that cold spell hits so we could have a game with 70 degree weather outside which is obviously a problem. It’s not even the biggest problem tho, that would be the humidity. Florida is muggy 365 days a year whether it’s hot or cold. Anyone who watched the cup finals the last few years would notice how terrible the ice conditions were at times. Thats due to the humidity, and no it doesn’t get better when it’s cold. It’s obviously a great thing for Florida a growing hockey market but the logistics are very tricky. I would have liked if instead the NHL did something similar to what they did with Lake Tahoe a couple years ago. Invite the two Florida teams along with a couple others and Put the game in Jacksonville or Tallahassee places that relatively get cold in Florida for a while. I think it would have really saved the nhl a fair amount of headaches. Still pumped as hell tho as a lightning fan.
It’s funny they say the amount Boosh is getting paid by the Stars like it’s a lot or something. He has more than lived up to that contract so far. Such an upgrade over Hakanpää
It took the Devils 10 years to get half way to a good roster, this year ia looking good and it took so many different players being moved. The Sabres seem to just think itll happen if they keep going and the sens and red wings let their chance pass them by and will have to regroup
Lyubushkin has been amazing in Dallas, and the Stars were linked to Trouba before going to the Ducks. Just wait until the Stars have a right side of Dumba/Boosh/Trouba
As a Ducks fan i'm very happy with Trouba. Traded a LD out which we still have too many of for a good tone setting physical RD defender known to be a great locker room presence. Vak while I liked him doesn't fit with the future the ducks are building, he's a bottom pairing guy and will likely remain so.
I have been a sabres fan for 15 years since I started to watch hockey at 5. Ownership has failed to pick a good front office and it's seems like they only care about security and not risk to have a better team
But they're good? Trouba is making like 3-5 million(depending on how much you hate him)dollars too much but it's not like the ducks care about the cap rn and radko is just a solid defensive defenseman that's also their captain they're both good NHL maybe 2nd pair but you'd prefer 3rd pair defensman and there's nothing wrong with them
The thing about Rangers - it's like their last year to have a legit shot at the Cup as one of the main favorites. After this year the core will get another year older (and a lot of them are already on the wrong side of 30) plus they'll start paying Shesterkin. They need to do something to either have the best shot possible this year or to ensure their future favorite status, or ideally both.
TROUBA PLAYED 20 MINUTES A GAME FOR NYR. In what world are 3rd pair guys playing 20+ minutes? I refuse to let this narrative continue. Obviously it's going to be a challenge to fill those 20 minutes because the whole rest of the team isn't playing up to their standards. Now they made that space go do something with it NOW!!!!! Same story with the Preds you spent SOOOOOOOO much money this summer have like $7M in space and 3 1st round picks. Go make a move and either get better or not but at least you tried vs just sitting in this quicksand puddle you are in 🤦♂️
The boys really asked what are the odds of two western conference teams facing off in the Stanley Cup final AND were surprised when the information was not available. 😂
I left a similar comment in one of THG's videos. Is there a world where this hole Truba situation, and to a lesser extent Goodrow's too, leads to the PA demanding the waiver system be revamped waiver to prohibit teams in a player's no-trade list from picking up that player? Maybe, but I doubt the owners would ever sign off on that. Either way, that's the only way I can see of fixing the NTC and waivers, without leading to player's only signing if they get NMC
In my opinion, if you want a no move, negotiate to get a no move, otherwise with a no trade, there is some risk. There would be a price to be paid to get the extra protection. At the end of the day, the team was looking to offload the player for nothing, which is rarely a great move for your organization to walk away from an asset you sign at high value.
If you're from a small town of 10,000... that's a fairly big town Adam. Southern Ontario people need to travel more and see how many real small towns are out there
56:00 you guys are missing KA point. There isn’t a quick fix in UFA. He can’t go out and trade for a Trouba because of NTC. He has to build through the draft and he has to build the core that way prior to getting complimentary pieces. He is doing it the right way. He isn’t big name hunting like Dorion did in his final seasons with Ottawa. Yes the Sabres have missed the playoffs 13 years straight, but he is in year 4 of taking over a dumpster fire. The reporter asking to spend to the cap is also a dick. It’s a catch 22. If he did offer like a $6M contract to like a Foligno type the media would be saying ‘why can’t you spend the money properly?’ KA also doesn’t work for the fans, he works for the owners and he had to deal with the whole Jack Eichel thing as soon as he was hired. He was the Pegula’s mouth piece in that situation.
I don't think the Rangers will have any issues signing free agents. I think they will have issues getting players to take any kind of discounts though.
People called me mental, but i said from the start the ducks are gonna find a trade partner for Trouba, they'll retain 50% and get someone else to retain 50% and Trouba at either 4 or 2 million on a 2nd or 3rd pair is very interesting for a contender
11:15 MATH CHECK: there is only two Rangers who have been playing there since 2017, Vegas’ inaugural season, and it’s Kreider and Zibanejad. If you want to count draft picks, Shesterkin and Chytil would make that four.
You guys talked about Trouba and even mentioned that he had played in Winnipeg, but you did not analyze the trade closer. When Trouba made it known to the Jets that he wanted to move on, he was in the last year of his contract and would have been a UFA if they did not do anything. So Kevin Cheveldayoff traded Trouba to the Rangers for Neil Pionk. Check out how much the Jets are paying Pionk and how many points he got for the Jets so far this year and last season too, then compare that to Trouba. At the time of the trade to the Rangers, the best it looked was at least the Jets got something out of nothing, but now look at the numbers. Over and over, Kevin Cheveldayoff proves himself way ahead of the pack.
What steve said about collectors hits hard as a retro video game collector i recently added the 6th and final funtastic n64 to my collection do I need 6 n64s? No but they sure look nice on my shelf
Why does no one talk about Trouba getting out of Winnipeg... Or the players have power now... Look at Matthews contract getting the best of both worlds.
Hockey fans are weird. We complain about how there aren't any exciting trades, then when one happens, everybody shouts, "How can the GM do this?!" No-trade clauses and no-movement clauses are one reason the NHL is so boring.
“The Sabres aren’t knockin’ off Tampa - Florida - Boston - Toronto” - except for Tampa - in THAT order … the PENS DIDDDDD in their little run OF 5 outta 6 before they got GOALIED by whatshisface & JARRY couldn’t handle one of the best or maybe the best offensive team in the league … if Georgie didn’t get traded to San Jose just before … that game would’ve been what they call a “barn-burner” & the PENS would’ve won 7-6 in OT with a Sidney P. Crosby crazy “whateverr his sick mind would’ve thought of” 😅
It pisses me off an unreasonable amount how little coverage it has gotten. The main headline of all these national shows is still Trouba, Kevin Adams, soft tampering…
One is a little more dramatic and more of a story than the other. The Avs wanted to upgrade their goaltending, so they made a trade to do so - simple. The Rangers threatened to put their captain on waivers if he didn't accept a trade to a team that may or may not have been on his no trade list.
@@maximebergeron87 That's not the point. If you're trying to be legit and taken seriously, you need to address topics professionally. The minute Jesse got credentials for Leafs games as a media member, all bets are off. They are officially part of the media and should not be treated any differently. They don't even go through the details of the trade at all. Saying it in passing as a footnote is unacceptable
@@KevynKing They didn't even had the courtesy to mention the details of the trade. They didn't even talk about the basics. Quit trying to defend them just because you're so clingy and attached to them
@@maximebergeron87 Y'all think it's funny...but they officially became part of the Media when Jess got press credentials for Leafs games. This isn't some couple of guys chilling and talking about sports. They are a corporation now. They have to act professionally
I love that The Rangers are messing with The Sens. I hope they get Brady so I can enjoy the despair of all The Sens fans who have ever chirped me before.
During the bet mgm big story, Jessie asked for the odds of Anaheim beating Chicago in the Stanley Cup final, and Adam said the odds aren't available. That's probably because both teams are in the West, so that match up is impossible.
Do I have to remind you that Tampa went against Montreal in a cup final? Both are eastern teams. It's not that a final Anaheim-Chicago is impossible, it's just extremely unlikely! 😂
@sebastiencarrieres8825 haha fair enough, but in that case I think it would make the odds even longer than even they anticipated.
@@KevbotFalconhammer I guess you could retire on winning a $10 bet!
Yeah I can’t believe none of them noticed that both teams are in the west 🤦♂️
@sebastiencarrieres8825 and do I have to remind you that, that year the north division was technically in the western conference which led the Montreal Canadians hoisting the Western Conference Trophey. As an Atlantic team.
So that year it was possible. But any other year, it is not
Brady Tkachuk looks like the first guy Liam Neeson kills in any movie.
Made me chuckle😂 thanks
I became a fan of the Buffalo Sabres in 2014 when I fell in love with the sport of hockey. 10 years later, the Buffalo Sabres are making hate hockey more by the day.
At least u got cam skatteboo
This is why I decided to pick a new hockey team when I left Buffalo years ago. I'm still so upset about how Jack Eichel was treated by the organization. They ruined themselves time and time again, and the fans are paying the price.
No matter which team you support, you gotta feel bad for Sabres fans
Adam saying that a small town is 10,000 people is so crazy to me
out of touch as always
Yeah, he said a number that's too small
Or you’re out of touch…
That IS a small town especially if you're from the city
One of my favourite 'dang-it moments' for whatever reason was one of the prospect pyramids where either at or near the very beginning Steve sets the whiteboard up and excitedly exclaims 'THE PROSPECT PYRAMID!' only for the whiteboard to then immediately fall over and him groan and make a jump cut to talking about the budget he's working with or something of that nature. The groan he makes upon it falling so quickly gets me everytime lol
I tried to hold my laughter when Adam compared Josh Allen to Jack Eichel.
In reality it would be on the lines of this:
McDavid: Patrick Mahomes
Matthews: Josh Allen
Eichel: Matt Stafford
Would not say mahomes is mcdavid. Both are dynamic but mcdavid has yet to win his championship
@ is McDavid still the best Center in the league? Cause I’m pretty sure he is.
"MIKKO LEHTINEN!!!" will be in Steve's Video Dang-Its for sure.
So as a Florida resident im interested in how they’re going to make this work lol. Marlins Park has a retractable roof but in the winter time the absolute COLDEST it could get in south Florida is below 60 degrees, also its unpredictable when that cold spell hits so we could have a game with 70 degree weather outside which is obviously a problem. It’s not even the biggest problem tho, that would be the humidity. Florida is muggy 365 days a year whether it’s hot or cold. Anyone who watched the cup finals the last few years would notice how terrible the ice conditions were at times. Thats due to the humidity, and no it doesn’t get better when it’s cold. It’s obviously a great thing for Florida a growing hockey market but the logistics are very tricky. I would have liked if instead the NHL did something similar to what they did with Lake Tahoe a couple years ago. Invite the two Florida teams along with a couple others and Put the game in Jacksonville or Tallahassee places that relatively get cold in Florida for a while. I think it would have really saved the nhl a fair amount of headaches. Still pumped as hell tho as a lightning fan.
I'm impressed that the Sabres have microphones for the reporters, so you can actually hear their questions.
It’s funny they say the amount Boosh is getting paid by the Stars like it’s a lot or something. He has more than lived up to that contract so far. Such an upgrade over Hakanpää
The best thing to come out of the peoples Republic of Canada
It took the Devils 10 years to get half way to a good roster, this year ia looking good and it took so many different players being moved. The Sabres seem to just think itll happen if they keep going and the sens and red wings let their chance pass them by and will have to regroup
Not even gonna listen to what I see as “Adam vs the Pens @ 1:35:00” til tomorrow cause I gotta sleep - can’t wait for that haha
Adam vs the Pens is one of my favorite unofficial reoccurring segments haha
Lyubushkin has been amazing in Dallas, and the Stars were linked to Trouba before going to the Ducks. Just wait until the Stars have a right side of Dumba/Boosh/Trouba
Jesse… they’re in the same conference 😂
Was screamimg the same thing at my computer screen haha how can they play against each other 💀
I think in that case, it was WCF as in that conversation, Philly vs. Ottawa was one of the options
Steve dangle is about to rock my Tuesday night
As a Ducks fan i'm very happy with Trouba. Traded a LD out which we still have too many of for a good tone setting physical RD defender known to be a great locker room presence. Vak while I liked him doesn't fit with the future the ducks are building, he's a bottom pairing guy and will likely remain so.
39:54 there's actually zero chance of the Ducks beating the Hawks in the finals, they're both WC teams.
Came here looking for this
I think in that case, it was WCF as in that conversation, Philly vs. Ottawa was one of the options
I have been a sabres fan for 15 years since I started to watch hockey at 5. Ownership has failed to pick a good front office and it's seems like they only care about security and not risk to have a better team
Heritage classics are not by definition outdoor games. They're just games played in football stadiums in front of huge crowds
Something for the LFR Dang-Its, when Steve threw his phone during the 9-2 Nashville loss in 2014 and it made a mark on his door lol
Having Trouba AND Gudas on your blueline also just freaking hurts
But they're good? Trouba is making like 3-5 million(depending on how much you hate him)dollars too much but it's not like the ducks care about the cap rn and radko is just a solid defensive defenseman that's also their captain they're both good NHL maybe 2nd pair but you'd prefer 3rd pair defensman and there's nothing wrong with them
@@mildsuffering4734 I mean't they're both tough guys who cause hurt to the other team.
The thing about Rangers - it's like their last year to have a legit shot at the Cup as one of the main favorites.
After this year the core will get another year older (and a lot of them are already on the wrong side of 30) plus they'll start paying Shesterkin.
They need to do something to either have the best shot possible this year or to ensure their future favorite status, or ideally both.
Who wouldve thought carey price stoning the leafs on fifteen 2 on 1s in the 2021 1st round of the playoffs would break these guys in december of 2024
TROUBA PLAYED 20 MINUTES A GAME FOR NYR. In what world are 3rd pair guys playing 20+ minutes? I refuse to let this narrative continue. Obviously it's going to be a challenge to fill those 20 minutes because the whole rest of the team isn't playing up to their standards. Now they made that space go do something with it NOW!!!!! Same story with the Preds you spent SOOOOOOOO much money this summer have like $7M in space and 3 1st round picks. Go make a move and either get better or not but at least you tried vs just sitting in this quicksand puddle you are in 🤦♂️
Love From Seattle!!!
Hi Seattle!
The boys really asked what are the odds of two western conference teams facing off in the Stanley Cup final AND were surprised when the information was not available. 😂
“Adam’s wife…is open for business” “Is there a product we should use instead of your wife?”. Guys. What was going on here?😂😂😂
Goaltender interference... so no one really knows what it is.
I left a similar comment in one of THG's videos. Is there a world where this hole Truba situation, and to a lesser extent Goodrow's too, leads to the PA demanding the waiver system be revamped waiver to prohibit teams in a player's no-trade list from picking up that player? Maybe, but I doubt the owners would ever sign off on that. Either way, that's the only way I can see of fixing the NTC and waivers, without leading to player's only signing if they get NMC
In my opinion, if you want a no move, negotiate to get a no move, otherwise with a no trade, there is some risk. There would be a price to be paid to get the extra protection. At the end of the day, the team was looking to offload the player for nothing, which is rarely a great move for your organization to walk away from an asset you sign at high value.
Mikko Lehktonen as he did it twice
I hope steve never forgets the shrimp taco fiasco
I think the trouba trade will come back they did him dirty in my opinion
Vegas has been doing people dirty since they came into the league and players still line up to sign there
@ that’s true.. I think it’ll come back for them to at one point
20:00 ... Ilya Mikheyev almost lived up to his contract the first season in Vancouver, except for the injuries. Then he never recovered.
Drury did Bettman a favour openly. He gave the NHL a bargaining chip at CBA negotiations. The players will pay for it as always
WHYYYYYYYYYY NOT?!?!?!?!!??!?!?
WHY NOT!?!??!?!?!
If you're from a small town of 10,000... that's a fairly big town Adam. Southern Ontario people need to travel more and see how many real small towns are out there
I will call it now Trouba to the Panthers, it's a perfect fit and they need another defenseman
Last year, eating the mustard for sure
Been refreshing woo woo!
Jesse forgetting 2 western conference teams can’t play in the Stanley Cup finals 😂
Ducks and Chicago are in the same conference boys, maybe don’t bet anymore lol
I like how all the guys just assumed Weber won a Norris. Also, Mark Giordano's a recent Norris winner who isn't making the HHOF.
1:43:45 It's wild that Weber never won a Norris. He finished second in voting twice to some guy named Nicklas Lidstrom.
Great podcast
Watching this right after the Avs beat the Pens. 😂
That’s like beating up a blind man, Penguins awful af
56:00 you guys are missing KA point. There isn’t a quick fix in UFA. He can’t go out and trade for a Trouba because of NTC. He has to build through the draft and he has to build the core that way prior to getting complimentary pieces.
He is doing it the right way. He isn’t big name hunting like Dorion did in his final seasons with Ottawa. Yes the Sabres have missed the playoffs 13 years straight, but he is in year 4 of taking over a dumpster fire.
The reporter asking to spend to the cap is also a dick. It’s a catch 22. If he did offer like a $6M contract to like a Foligno type the media would be saying ‘why can’t you spend the money properly?’
KA also doesn’t work for the fans, he works for the owners and he had to deal with the whole Jack Eichel thing as soon as he was hired. He was the Pegula’s mouth piece in that situation.
Wood, Wedgewood, Blackwood?? The Wild should hand over that locker room player of the game chain to the Avs
devils did it before it was cool 🙄
The Arturri Lehkonen call on the Live Stream in the Avs Playoff Game. MIKKO LEHTONNEN!!!!!
I don't think the Rangers will have any issues signing free agents. I think they will have issues getting players to take any kind of discounts though.
As the Hockey Guy said "which team NOT to be traded to nr 1 New York Rangers" players talk.....
People called me mental, but i said from the start the ducks are gonna find a trade partner for Trouba, they'll retain 50% and get someone else to retain 50% and Trouba at either 4 or 2 million on a 2nd or 3rd pair is very interesting for a contender
11:15 MATH CHECK: there is only two Rangers who have been playing there since 2017, Vegas’ inaugural season, and it’s Kreider and Zibanejad.
If you want to count draft picks, Shesterkin and Chytil would make that four.
Y'know, I don't remember hearing any stories on Oster eat your food 👀
4:52 Wait you eat onion rings while you're riding your peloton too?!?!
I feel like this waivers loophole is going to be closed in the next cba, otherwise nobody is going to take a no trade clause that means nothing.
You guys talked about Trouba and even mentioned that he had played in Winnipeg, but you did not analyze the trade closer. When Trouba made it known to the Jets that he wanted to move on, he was in the last year of his contract and would have been a UFA if they did not do anything. So Kevin Cheveldayoff traded Trouba to the Rangers for Neil Pionk. Check out how much the Jets are paying Pionk and how many points he got for the Jets so far this year and last season too, then compare that to Trouba. At the time of the trade to the Rangers, the best it looked was at least the Jets got something out of nothing, but now look at the numbers. Over and over, Kevin Cheveldayoff proves himself way ahead of the pack.
What steve said about collectors hits hard as a retro video game collector i recently added the 6th and final funtastic n64 to my collection do I need 6 n64s? No but they sure look nice on my shelf
I think Laviolette is probably not the sole problem with NYR, but I seriously doubt he'll be part of the solution.
MLH Steve’s biggest dang it
Why does no one talk about Trouba getting out of Winnipeg... Or the players have power now... Look at Matthews contract getting the best of both worlds.
I understand legalzoom, but what i need to know about in this economy is illegalzoom.
What does it mean "being a cap team"? A team that uses the entire cap?
Hockey fans are weird. We complain about how there aren't any exciting trades, then when one happens, everybody shouts, "How can the GM do this?!" No-trade clauses and no-movement clauses are one reason the NHL is so boring.
Giordano will be the 3rd defenseman to win a norris and not make the hall of fame.
Oh hell yeah lets go gamer
SDPN avoiding the subject of Laine heading to have more goals than Matthews this season
Guess who also had Brandon Hagel…….
Rangers also lost to Seattle.
“The Sabres aren’t knockin’ off Tampa - Florida - Boston - Toronto” - except for Tampa - in THAT order … the PENS DIDDDDD in their little run OF 5 outta 6 before they got GOALIED by whatshisface & JARRY couldn’t handle one of the best or maybe the best offensive team in the league … if Georgie didn’t get traded to San Jose just before … that game would’ve been what they call a “barn-burner” & the PENS would’ve won 7-6 in OT with a Sidney P. Crosby crazy “whateverr his sick mind would’ve thought of” 😅
wedgewood blackwood miles wood
This show helps my mental health crisis’s?
Steve’s “what tampering, nooo tampering” sounded just like Seinfeld 😂😂😂😂😂
MLH
Reporter: the world is on fire and the earth is hurtling toward the sun.
Adams: yep we need a bit more sunscreen.
The guy needs to go
I think Adam was tryna say you gotta score different ways on two on ones. You can’t be fancy with it in the playoffs.
Why is it on one side that he exercised it fairly by the player, but when the team enacts it fairly as well, it's considered strong arming?
First! Wow look at me everybody!
nothing on the avs??
It pisses me off an unreasonable amount how little coverage it has gotten. The main headline of all these national shows is still Trouba, Kevin Adams, soft tampering…
They did go over it, they said they improved with the goaltending moves they made, watch the whole podcast
@@k38-w4x it’s about a 2 minute segment.
@@IowaAvsFan That's how much time it deserves
"36:00 The Avs make a deal"
Found in the description...
Really? You talk 36 minutes about Trouba and only give the Avs a couple of minutes on their trade? Wow...
Probably to spite producer Drew 😂😂 don’t worry you’ll be allright.
One is a little more dramatic and more of a story than the other. The Avs wanted to upgrade their goaltending, so they made a trade to do so - simple. The Rangers threatened to put their captain on waivers if he didn't accept a trade to a team that may or may not have been on his no trade list.
@@maximebergeron87 That's not the point. If you're trying to be legit and taken seriously, you need to address topics professionally. The minute Jesse got credentials for Leafs games as a media member, all bets are off. They are officially part of the media and should not be treated any differently. They don't even go through the details of the trade at all. Saying it in passing as a footnote is unacceptable
@@KevynKing They didn't even had the courtesy to mention the details of the trade. They didn't even talk about the basics. Quit trying to defend them just because you're so clingy and attached to them
@@maximebergeron87 Y'all think it's funny...but they officially became part of the Media when Jess got press credentials for Leafs games. This isn't some couple of guys chilling and talking about sports. They are a corporation now. They have to act professionally
I love that The Rangers are messing with The Sens. I hope they get Brady so I can enjoy the despair of all The Sens fans who have ever chirped me before.
Is the Colorado net now called the Wood Shed?
Nashville has lost more in the last 10 then either Chicago or Anaheim. 🦨🦨🔥🔥