No... this implies in determinism and forget that basketball is a learnable skill. Everyone has to train and study hard to improve, not everyone who trains hard succeed but there's no one who succeed without training incredibly hard. Things like mindset, lifestyle, diet, injury management, body type, personality and your unique life journey plays a huge part on where you are, what type of training you do and the speed of your progress. I didn't see the video yet but i'm sure that no one is garanteed to success.
You definitely forgot Rudy Gobert. At his first year he was considered as a rubish late 1st round pick, and he averaged 9,6 minutes, 2,3 points and 3,4 rebounds in 45 games in a 25-57 Utah!
Giannis is the ultimate turn around story Istg, most of the all time legends if not every player in the top 10 had a great start but Giannis was a completely turn around
@@johnemersonvale1227 not exactly because Kobe was a all star in year 2 and in year 3 he was already averaging 19.9 points and a upcoming elite defender and everything after that was super stardom meanwhile Giannis’s first 3 seasons weren’t as good as Kobe’s first 3
You forgot Nikola Jokic who is the only MVP that came from 2nd round pick in 2014 draft and also the 41st pick. He also did not start very good so I think he belong to this list
Seems like you just went on basketball refernce, looked at these guys first year scoring averages and included them on the list. Heres proof you either barely do any actual research or you dont know much about basketball and stats/analyzing/understanding a players worth. Kawhi Leonard: 7.9 ppg - 5.1 rebs - 1.1 ast - 1.1 stl - 0.4 blks --- 49% fg 37% 3pt Kawhi didnt average a ton of points, but thats because he was on a team with Duncan, Ginobli, Parker and a great cast of role players. Doesnt mean he wasnt capable of scoring. He had some pretty good games year one. He also only averaged 24 mins for the season....Those numbers in 24 mins a game as a rookie on a team with those guys already looks good. On top of that a rookie coming in and shooting 50% and nearly 40% from three is fucking amazing. Its so damn rare. Nothing about his rookie year apart from his scoring average tells us he was going to be a bad player, in fact the opposite. He was really strong defensively too.... Clearly you didnt bother to check though, cuz he didnt score a ton so automatically he was a terrible player....Also since he only averaged 24 mins, you clearly didnt bother to check per 36 stats either. Based on those stats, he had a marginally worse season than Scottie Barnes did this year....The rookie of the year... His numbers were off from Scottie which speaks to how good Barnes was, but it wasnt far off.... Jimmy Butlers per 36 werent that far off Kawhis either. His shooting was signifcantly worse but he was getting 8 mins a game.... Year two his efficiency nearly met Kawhis year one, which speaks to how good Kawhi was coming into the league. By no means did Jimmy have a terrible first year. You clearly just pulled up basketball reference and looked at the first year stats and ended your research there and threw them on the list. Theres a reason these teams invested in these guys.... GIannis didnt have a great rookie year...but he played on a bad Milwaukee team who was fine putting him on the court to develop. Again...you didnt check per 36s clearly cuz his stats there show a player who showed he has a place in this league. By no means would I classify it as a terrible rookie given the context. He was raw, they were okay letting him play cuz they werernt trying to win. His numbers got better over the season too. By the end of the year he was shooting significantly better from the field and was actually shooting the ball from 3 really well. Once again, per 36s were a bit worse than Jimmy and Kawhi, but definitely not terrible again given the context. Clearly a year under his belt and the amount of size he put on, plus growing a bit more showed us why youre not a GM and why Giannis didnt have a terrible first year. Draymond had a bad first year in shooting stats, per 36 and is lucky to still have a spot after his first year after it. He made the most of his opportunity the following year but again, a block, steal and good defensive presence/mindset was worth the investment. Youre 1/4. Youre having a terrible video by your analyzing standards. Tobias Harris......you already know what im going to say. Ill just leave at this....Tobias had the best ppg of all the players listed according to his per 36.... and it shows. Its why the Sixers traded for him and clearly they knew way more about basketball than you ever will. Paul George......this is getting ridiculous. Check the per 36. Check the defensive win shares, check play-by-plays. All these stats are available on basketball reference but you choose to just look at scoring and deem a player terrible. ffs, put some damn effort into these videos. 1/6 James Harden. ffs.....I hate laziness!!! You have a platform with nearly 500k subscribers!!! HE MADE ALL-ROOKIE SECOND TEAM DUDE!!!!! For the 3rd overall pick, yeah youd want more production in the first year..... oh wait.... dude put up 16 ppg 5 rbs and 4 asts a game in per 36!!!! Coming off the bench on a team with Westbrook and Kevin Durant.... and he still managed to get 10 points a game. He shot badly from the field but 40% for a rookie isnt bad given what else he was doing. Again clearly you just looked at point per game, but he shot 37% from three in limited mins off the bench and playing with Durant who took 20 shots a game and averaged 30 ppg, Westbrook who took 14 shots a game and averaged 16 and Jeff Green who averaged 15 on 13 shots/game. Oh yeah, all three averaged 33+ mins a game, which means he shared the court with a at least two of those guys whenever he was on. They also had 50 wins that year as the 8th seed (which speaks to how good the West was) which means they were trying to win. That matters when a rookie is coming in. Its not like Milwaukee where they played Giannis cuz they could afford his mistakes. 1/7 ouch. Youre having a terrible video. VanVleet.... check the per 36s. Shot terribly, similar year to Jordan Pooles first year percentage-wise. Fred shot great from three, but was on a Raptors team who was trying to win. He only played in 37 games that year and only really got garbage time/injury minutes. His points, rebounds and asists were insane for a rookie (per 36). His defensive rating was pretty good given his size and being a undrafted rookie. Theres a reason they kept him. And theres a reason you shouldnt make videos without doing research. Theres also a reason these guys got more opportunities, and became stars.....because they DIDNT HAVE TERRIBLE ROOKIE YEARS!!!!! They offered something worth investing in, something worth developing and trusting that those rookie stats WERENT TERRIBLE and would significantly improve given the opportunity and a players attitude towards development and bettering himself. Pascal....im not even gonig to say it at this point. Shot 50% from the field. Left something to be desired on the offensive end but again, similar to Giannis, they knew he was raw. He was really good for a rookie defensively which earned him his 15 mins a game but again, I said I wasnt gonig to say it but his per 36 stats were pretty good for a late first round gamble. He also only got 3.7 shots a game on a team with Derozan and Lowry on a 3rd place 51 win Raptor team with contention hopes. One of the harder cases to make for not having a terrible rookie year, but again, given the context, it wasnt bad. ill give you 0.5 of a point for Pascal. 1.5/9 on "Terrible" rookie seasons. Must be a nice gig thinking of clickbaity video ideas, doing barely any research and having a subscriber base who will watch your videos and go around saying these guys had bad rookie years doing as much research as you did or understand anything about basketball. Either that or youre just lazy or have become lazy knowing youll get views regardless of what trash you put out. Its why I avoid videos like these and channels like yours. I stopped putting stats after Kawhi cuz maybe id get the same way too. But at least do some research. You can pay people to do it at this point lol. Just stop putting out lazy trash content, im sure youre capable of better.
Just to add, Kuminga. Check out his per 36. Probably a good bet on being a star. Not surprising given he plays for the Warriors and they draft and mold players at the highest level but he's going to be a star.
Huh it seems like those first rough couple years seem like development😂 people too quick to rush a rookie to be great I know they hyped coming into the league but still it’s good to develop them.
What about the ECF and Finals MVP? Year one was like 7 points. The local stations were like great another guy who can't shoot. The next year they take, the guy they say is the face of the team, and Brown doubles his point, then in year 3 he goes back in minutes , points, rebounds... people are saying bust. Now he is a champion.
I don't think I'd EVER refer to Draymond as a superstar. He's had the easiest career path out of anyone in my lifetime and gets some sort of false sense of entitlement. Yeah you're an above average role player but put him on any other team and we all know what's up
Not just about scoring Draymond would have the same impact on any team he’s a defensive leader great rebounder and heart of the team. Is he a superstar no but he’s a valuable player
Giannis was not terrible, he was just a late bloomer like other greats, namely Hakeem Olajuwon and Tim Duncan. Only that those two had the benefit of going to college to learn the game, GA didn't and pretty much had the NBA be his basketball shaping experience.
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I'm not sure Austin Sweatt knows what a "Superstar" is. In the entire history of the NBA there has probably only been 10 or fewer Superstars. A Superstar is above an All Star, a Superstar is almost transcendent to the game. Magic, Larry, Michael, etc. Nobody in this video is a Superstar.
@@jordanmahony4268 No, they are All Stars. A Superstar is a once or twice in a generation player. They used to refer to them as Super Players. Super Stars also have a massive off the court presence as well as being the face of the entire NBA, in most cases. In my 40+ years of watching basketball I've only seen maybe 10 or less Superstars, and probably less.
@@jackastor5265 Obviously Lebron is a superstar today, but what do you consider Curry, KD, and Giannis to be? I think its clear that they are Super Stars, they are generational talents who have lead teams to championships and deep playoff runs, tons of off the court impact. But I'm curious to why or why not you'd say they're superstars.
@@Rowangetsmoney You mean All stars? Super Stars transcend the sport, they are bigger than the sport. If you throw it around the way you are it will be meaningless.
Nope, Steph is already good in his rookie year. He just lost to winning ROTY from Tyreke Evans on 2010 and Steph averaged about over 18+ ppg and he injured 2 years after his rookie year
just cuz they were a role player doesn’t mean they were terrible
Fax
It does so shut up
Yhea but the title wouldnt be as catchy
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If you're not a starter it means that the team has better players, easy
players that peaked late
No... this implies in determinism and forget that basketball is a learnable skill. Everyone has to train and study hard to improve, not everyone who trains hard succeed but there's no one who succeed without training incredibly hard. Things like mindset, lifestyle, diet, injury management, body type, personality and your unique life journey plays a huge part on where you are, what type of training you do and the speed of your progress.
I didn't see the video yet but i'm sure that no one is garanteed to success.
Essentially
You definitely forgot Rudy Gobert. At his first year he was considered as a rubish late 1st round pick, and he averaged 9,6 minutes, 2,3 points and 3,4 rebounds in 45 games in a 25-57 Utah!
He still is
@@davidsanotonakap729 3 times DPOY but yeah he didn’t improved…
Not a super star Lmao
Still is a bum.
@@onlyinfloridalol530 90% of people in this list aren’t superstars
Giannis is the ultimate turn around story Istg, most of the all time legends if not every player in the top 10 had a great start but Giannis was a completely turn around
For me it wasn't Giannis because for me it was the black mamba Kobe Bryant though I think he is not mention in this list
@@johnemersonvale1227 not exactly because Kobe was a all star in year 2 and in year 3 he was already averaging 19.9 points and a upcoming elite defender and everything after that was super stardom meanwhile Giannis’s first 3 seasons weren’t as good as Kobe’s first 3
Steph also had a weak start due to injuries
Jokic? He was a 2nd rounder right?
@@DuckDynamite yea but he did avg 17 a game his second year
Kawhi is the best 3 way player, offensive, defensive, and load management
You forgot Nikola Jokic who is the only MVP that came from 2nd round pick in 2014 draft and also the 41st pick. He also did not start very good so I think he belong to this list
He wasn't bad for a player for the 41st pick.10 and 7 isn't that terrible.
@@ymplay6947 he is not that good early in his career only this last 4 years that he became star
@@johnemersonvale1227 Actually by his 3rd season he was coming close but wasn't the triple double machine he is now.
You don't know what terrible is.....
@@ymplay6947 on 21 mpg and 51%fg... These guys don't know what terrible means...
That title is misleading asf, Tobias Harris and Khris Middleton aren't superstars
Chris Middleton wasn’t mentioned in this video.
@@TeenWrld 3:20
@@joevo1111 oh Khris oops
@@joevo1111 yeah that’s Khris Middleton
I don’t know if you’re sick or not, but I hope you feel better and nice vid!
So no Jokic that’s crazy bro get pick lateee while a toco bell commercial was going on n he’s one of the best players in the league right now
Keep the good content 😁
Seems like you just went on basketball refernce, looked at these guys first year scoring averages and included them on the list. Heres proof you either barely do any actual research or you dont know much about basketball and stats/analyzing/understanding a players worth.
Kawhi Leonard: 7.9 ppg - 5.1 rebs - 1.1 ast - 1.1 stl - 0.4 blks --- 49% fg 37% 3pt
Kawhi didnt average a ton of points, but thats because he was on a team with Duncan, Ginobli, Parker and a great cast of role players. Doesnt mean he wasnt capable of scoring. He had some pretty good games year one. He also only averaged 24 mins for the season....Those numbers in 24 mins a game as a rookie on a team with those guys already looks good. On top of that a rookie coming in and shooting 50% and nearly 40% from three is fucking amazing. Its so damn rare. Nothing about his rookie year apart from his scoring average tells us he was going to be a bad player, in fact the opposite. He was really strong defensively too.... Clearly you didnt bother to check though, cuz he didnt score a ton so automatically he was a terrible player....Also since he only averaged 24 mins, you clearly didnt bother to check per 36 stats either. Based on those stats, he had a marginally worse season than Scottie Barnes did this year....The rookie of the year... His numbers were off from Scottie which speaks to how good Barnes was, but it wasnt far off....
Jimmy Butlers per 36 werent that far off Kawhis either. His shooting was signifcantly worse but he was getting 8 mins a game.... Year two his efficiency nearly met Kawhis year one, which speaks to how good Kawhi was coming into the league. By no means did Jimmy have a terrible first year. You clearly just pulled up basketball reference and looked at the first year stats and ended your research there and threw them on the list. Theres a reason these teams invested in these guys....
GIannis didnt have a great rookie year...but he played on a bad Milwaukee team who was fine putting him on the court to develop. Again...you didnt check per 36s clearly cuz his stats there show a player who showed he has a place in this league. By no means would I classify it as a terrible rookie given the context. He was raw, they were okay letting him play cuz they werernt trying to win. His numbers got better over the season too. By the end of the year he was shooting significantly better from the field and was actually shooting the ball from 3 really well. Once again, per 36s were a bit worse than Jimmy and Kawhi, but definitely not terrible again given the context. Clearly a year under his belt and the amount of size he put on, plus growing a bit more showed us why youre not a GM and why Giannis didnt have a terrible first year.
Draymond had a bad first year in shooting stats, per 36 and is lucky to still have a spot after his first year after it. He made the most of his opportunity the following year but again, a block, steal and good defensive presence/mindset was worth the investment. Youre 1/4. Youre having a terrible video by your analyzing standards.
Tobias Harris......you already know what im going to say. Ill just leave at this....Tobias had the best ppg of all the players listed according to his per 36.... and it shows. Its why the Sixers traded for him and clearly they knew way more about basketball than you ever will.
Paul George......this is getting ridiculous. Check the per 36. Check the defensive win shares, check play-by-plays. All these stats are available on basketball reference but you choose to just look at scoring and deem a player terrible. ffs, put some damn effort into these videos. 1/6
James Harden. ffs.....I hate laziness!!! You have a platform with nearly 500k subscribers!!! HE MADE ALL-ROOKIE SECOND TEAM DUDE!!!!! For the 3rd overall pick, yeah youd want more production in the first year..... oh wait.... dude put up 16 ppg 5 rbs and 4 asts a game in per 36!!!! Coming off the bench on a team with Westbrook and Kevin Durant.... and he still managed to get 10 points a game. He shot badly from the field but 40% for a rookie isnt bad given what else he was doing. Again clearly you just looked at point per game, but he shot 37% from three in limited mins off the bench and playing with Durant who took 20 shots a game and averaged 30 ppg, Westbrook who took 14 shots a game and averaged 16 and Jeff Green who averaged 15 on 13 shots/game. Oh yeah, all three averaged 33+ mins a game, which means he shared the court with a at least two of those guys whenever he was on. They also had 50 wins that year as the 8th seed (which speaks to how good the West was) which means they were trying to win. That matters when a rookie is coming in. Its not like Milwaukee where they played Giannis cuz they could afford his mistakes. 1/7 ouch. Youre having a terrible video.
VanVleet.... check the per 36s. Shot terribly, similar year to Jordan Pooles first year percentage-wise. Fred shot great from three, but was on a Raptors team who was trying to win. He only played in 37 games that year and only really got garbage time/injury minutes. His points, rebounds and asists were insane for a rookie (per 36). His defensive rating was pretty good given his size and being a undrafted rookie. Theres a reason they kept him. And theres a reason you shouldnt make videos without doing research. Theres also a reason these guys got more opportunities, and became stars.....because they DIDNT HAVE TERRIBLE ROOKIE YEARS!!!!! They offered something worth investing in, something worth developing and trusting that those rookie stats WERENT TERRIBLE and would significantly improve given the opportunity and a players attitude towards development and bettering himself.
Pascal....im not even gonig to say it at this point. Shot 50% from the field. Left something to be desired on the offensive end but again, similar to Giannis, they knew he was raw. He was really good for a rookie defensively which earned him his 15 mins a game but again, I said I wasnt gonig to say it but his per 36 stats were pretty good for a late first round gamble. He also only got 3.7 shots a game on a team with Derozan and Lowry on a 3rd place 51 win Raptor team with contention hopes. One of the harder cases to make for not having a terrible rookie year, but again, given the context, it wasnt bad. ill give you 0.5 of a point for Pascal. 1.5/9 on "Terrible" rookie seasons.
Must be a nice gig thinking of clickbaity video ideas, doing barely any research and having a subscriber base who will watch your videos and go around saying these guys had bad rookie years doing as much research as you did or understand anything about basketball. Either that or youre just lazy or have become lazy knowing youll get views regardless of what trash you put out. Its why I avoid videos like these and channels like yours. I stopped putting stats after Kawhi cuz maybe id get the same way too. But at least do some research. You can pay people to do it at this point lol. Just stop putting out lazy trash content, im sure youre capable of better.
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Just to add, Kuminga. Check out his per 36. Probably a good bet on being a star. Not surprising given he plays for the Warriors and they draft and mold players at the highest level but he's going to be a star.
Good vid
Great, more vids like this
Huh it seems like those first rough couple years seem like development😂 people too quick to rush a rookie to be great I know they hyped coming into the league but still it’s good to develop them.
now there is jordan poole
You forgot Nichola Jokic he was a second round pick now he is a two time nba mvp
Seriously how on the green earth does Kyle Lowry and superstar has anything in common?
Alot has to do with injury but I can see Markelle Fultz being on this list soon!
Lol. Your Green highlights make him look like a much better shooter than he actually is.
I’m pretty sure Mr Leonard didn’t average no damn 5 ast
What’s the background music
Hoping to see a new ranking of the top players in the nba soon
What about the ECF and Finals MVP? Year one was like 7 points. The local stations were like great another guy who can't shoot. The next year they take, the guy they say is the face of the team, and Brown doubles his point, then in year 3 he goes back in minutes , points, rebounds... people are saying bust. Now he is a champion.
I bet you Markelle Fultz will be on this list soon
I don't think I'd EVER refer to Draymond as a superstar. He's had the easiest career path out of anyone in my lifetime and gets some sort of false sense of entitlement. Yeah you're an above average role player but put him on any other team and we all know what's up
Not just about scoring Draymond would have the same impact on any team he’s a defensive leader great rebounder and heart of the team. Is he a superstar no but he’s a valuable player
Nikola jokic???
Why don't you do best player from every position on every team anymore?
That would just be the starting lineup bruh
Giannis was not terrible, he was just a late bloomer like other greats, namely Hakeem Olajuwon and Tim Duncan. Only that those two had the benefit of going to college to learn the game, GA didn't and pretty much had the NBA be his basketball shaping experience.
Tim was all NBA first team his rookie season, Olajuwon beat the Showtime Lakers as a sophomore on his way to the finals.
Huh? Tim Duncan won ROTY in 98. Won a title and FMVP in 99. How was he a late-bloomer?
Middleton 1st All star year and 4th year stats are similar, and year before All star was better but ok lol
Let's be honest, Greek is clearly a better 2way player than the claw. On both sides of the ball
Im sure u meant 5 reb and 1 ast for kawhi
Jokic
Is it possible that we could see the same results with Bronny?
11 Rookies That Turned into SUPERSTARS(at least most of them)
Jokic?
There were some great development into there game
Jesus Christ is lord and savior amen
James Harden is unanimously the highest player in the NBA.
Those Kawhi numbers are mixed up. He averaged 5 reb and 1 ast
None these players were trash they were just rookies.
Terrible player picks just because u a roll player doesnt make u bad
Could’ve worded the title better
Austin were u sick in this vid
Jokic,Giannis,embiid,kawhi
audio kinda weird
i think he is sick
I like the vid but the title is misleading 😒🙄
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Giannis was never bad he was just skinny so they didn’t play him much
Yep good video
I'm not sure Austin Sweatt knows what a "Superstar" is. In the entire history of the NBA there has probably only been 10 or fewer Superstars. A Superstar is above an All Star, a Superstar is almost transcendent to the game. Magic, Larry, Michael, etc. Nobody in this video is a Superstar.
What are you taking about most of the list are superstars
@@jordanmahony4268 No, they are All Stars. A Superstar is a once or twice in a generation player. They used to refer to them as Super Players. Super Stars also have a massive off the court presence as well as being the face of the entire NBA, in most cases. In my 40+ years of watching basketball I've only seen maybe 10 or less Superstars, and probably less.
@@jackastor5265 Obviously Lebron is a superstar today, but what do you consider Curry, KD, and Giannis to be? I think its clear that they are Super Stars, they are generational talents who have lead teams to championships and deep playoff runs, tons of off the court impact. But I'm curious to why or why not you'd say they're superstars.
There are about 10 superstars in the league right now
@@Rowangetsmoney You mean All stars? Super Stars transcend the sport, they are bigger than the sport. If you throw it around the way you are it will be meaningless.
Giannis was never terrible
Steph is a really good option aswell
Nope, Steph is already good in his rookie year. He just lost to winning ROTY from Tyreke Evans on 2010 and Steph averaged about over 18+ ppg and he injured 2 years after his rookie year
yow wheres nash lmao
Hi
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yeah its called being a rookie
Kawai ain't no best two way
Tobias? Word?
Andrew wiggins???
steph curry has left the chat
Steph was just that bad tho he was still a solid role player just struggled with injuries
Wasnt
We’re going to see poku on this list very soon
Kobe bryant?
Can you do the opposite and have russel Westbrook in it
is 5.2reb and 1.1ast bro
Naw fam kawhi shouldnt be here got realy good reallly fast
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Harden is still horrible
Tobias Harris is no superstar. He’s not even an all-star. Haha!
first
@@katherineadams3816 you just mad he was first
@@callofdutyboi331 why would I care who is first
@@katherineadams3816 then why did you tell him you did not care
Because all you see in the comments is first you didn't have to start the argument
@@callofdutyboi331 i didn't mean to come off negative its not that big of a deal
First boi
This title is trash and clickbait
First
second
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There were some great development into there game