@@jonathanplanner3270 just checking that pedal, that thing is incredible, not only black sabbath but also ac/dc, Pink Floyd, and even Jimi Hendrix as well, thanks for letting me know that pedal
I wonder how they did the analysis of the 70`s sound, since BHM original rangemaster was left behind at a gig. Did he replace it with another one, or with the Cornish one? Just wondering. No reason why a DIY one can`t sound the same, difficulty is getting the correct parts though (correct transistors here is such a simple circuit are everything for the tone), and magic is in the biasing and cap choices. Where analysis of BHM actual units it important. I like how the different eras have different specific setting on the potentiometer. Thanks for sharing!!!
There’s a long debate as to the full history of Brian’s TBs Yes the original was lost by a careless roadie, then Harold built a replacement and there’s also some talk that John Deacon built one prior to Cornish who I gather has spoken of finding the John Deacon version while working for Brian The Cornish one was introduced in 75 however Brian definitely still has an original Rangemaster because it was used for this pedal and it’s boost range measured by KAT ( Nigel Knight) it’s obviously not the same one that was lost but can’t be too far off of guess in terms of boost range
@@jonathanplanner3270 what a great summary. Didn’t know the history. What I like about this pedal is that the idea is to capture the different tones as BHM’s sound developed over the years. Everyone talks about chasing specific tones. But they don’t really exist outside the studio. Even BHM might dial it in slightly differently each day depending how he feels. As we all do. How is the mayday pedal?? Maybe you already did a review going to look now.
@@peterstune1 The mayday is very good, there’s a review in my videos, there’s also a quick review of the new KAT N-Channel which is basically the same thing, but with real valves so a better end result Nigel hopes to have these out soon but there’s a delay while we have a valve shortage sadly … but worth waiting for!
Thanks for the review dude. I can’t help but think it’s a lot of money for what it is ! Iv just built a rangemaster with selectable transistors, bias and tone and it cost me £50. Iv posted a video of the build process. Iv also built a deluxe for about £40. Your clearly a Brian May affection ado, have a go at a build.
Ac30 Helix Well it’s three boosters in one and given the single version of the Cornish TB83 is the same price I’d say it wasn’t a bad price This has been built after taking apart Brian’s old ones to accurately measure them for responses so it’s about as accurate as you can get. I would like to have a go at building one so I’ll check out your video cheers
@@jonathanplanner3270 The 70 doesn't sound like a rangemaster germanium transistor for me (it lack the fuzzy sound of it (I have an orignal rangemaster with oc44). I also have a TB83 from Cornish, and sound fatter than a Fryer which I have also but not less gainer. For me, this pedal just share the same transistor with different input cap on the swith, as describe by Greg Fryer. You could go way less expensive with DIY kit. As I also did myself. 300€ is very expensive for just a this simple device. On musikding, the kit cost, 15€...
@@jonathanplanner3270 Thank you very much. I got a VOX AC15C1 Classic Black and a BMG Special. Gonna order the Optima 25k gold strings and I play with a sixpence. Do you think it will sound similar like May's tune?
Yes it will at high volume you will need to attenuate it otherwise even an AC15 will be massively loud To get his tone the amp has to be flat out so that’s almost impossible unless you are in a studio You should look at some way to lower the volume but still get the overdrive sound I use an attenuator like a Marshall Power brake
@@jonathanplanner3270 Thank you Jonathan, gonna check and see if I can order it from the Netherlands somewhere. I appreciate your help and your video's!
Yes it’s very good, don’t expect a huge difference between the settings, his core tone didn’t change that much, but each one has slightly heavier gain so it does match his sound over the years when paired with an AC30 and Red Special A good quality TB from Fryer/Cornish or KAT without the 3 settings Will do just as good a job but you don’t get the same flexibility of the 3 settings
Well it’s identical to the touring because it has that setting, and a very accurate version on the TB83 and Rangemaster, all boosters are frankly only slightly different from each other but with three settings this is one of the most flexible so it will certainly get you the Fryer Touring booster sound that Brian used if that’s what you seek
Can you get a good clean tone without using two ac30s? i have ordered my treble booster and im using a bmg special and a fender mustang amp, do i still get the same crystal clean tone as you or is that because you're using an ac30?
When you roll back the volume you should get a clean tone but I suspect it will be fairly different to the AC30, there’s only a small amount of room on the volume before it goes into distortion hence why Brian has the Superpot fitted now, I’m sure it will work on yours but the fender amp will give a different tone
@@anderso.madsen9414 it’s a new volume pot Brian had installed in all guitars it increases the the amount of room you have before the sound starts to increase in gain and break up, so when Brian plays more clean tones it gives him more room on the Vol control, before it he had on a tiny fraction of a turn before it became heavy gain
Yes it’s not too far off you can also modify the pathfinder but simply snipping off two red LEDs inside that clean up the random sounds it can make if you are on the Red Special forum there are posts about doing this, the TB is good all you need to do is play with the tone controls to find the best place for them
@@Simon-wt4ri It has the same output as the boosters it's modelled on give or take a dB so yes, it would work just as well as the Fryer Touring for example or either of the other two with an AC30vr, however the vr series amps will have a slightly different tone compared to a standard AC30, but this booster will work just like any other with it.
I got mine as well. But i can't hear any difference between those three modes. So pity that i paid so many bucks for this "one kind of sound". My handmade treble booster by scheme of Greg Fryer (for just 60 bucks) is sounding the same, but for less money. This is the first time i feel myself like an asshole.
Black White What are you playing through? There’s a big difference between the 70s and 80s sound less so between the 80s and 90s But I’d say you should be able to hear a pretty big thickening to the sound between the first two Keep in mind no booster drastically changes the sound however Is it going straight into he amp and first in line after the guitar? Or do you have other processing somewhere?
Black White okay maybe if you can try it with an AC30 that’s what it’s really designed to be used with and an AC30 is maybe more forgiving If you look at the recordings first two albums are the 70s tone with a Rangemaster The 80s really covers every other Queen album and the 90s is Paul Rodgers era Think live tones really I think with and AC30 it’s spot on, other amps maybe not so much...
@@jonathanplanner3270 yeah, i was going to buy AC30, but as i know they made in Korea now and has changed my mind about buying. I'm sorry about bad english.
Holding phones next to amps particularly AC30 style amps will generate static and hum... just part of live amp stuff really plus this type of rig creates a large amount of hiss, the snow storm is normal
I have this pedal. Been using it with a Tele and a Strat into two tube amps - Fender Deluxe Deville and a Monoprice 15w. Sounds really good.
could it get the tone of black sabbath?? i was about doing the same with my strat
Tell you what gets the Black Sabbath tone the Origin Effects revival drive ! It’s awesome
@@jonathanplanner3270 just checking that pedal, that thing is incredible, not only black sabbath but also ac/dc, Pink Floyd, and even Jimi Hendrix as well, thanks for letting me know that pedal
What kind of guitar are you using for that?
That would be my Dansan Red Special
Sounds mega dude really Brian may
I wonder how they did the analysis of the 70`s sound, since BHM original rangemaster was left behind at a gig. Did he replace it with another one, or with the Cornish one? Just wondering. No reason why a DIY one can`t sound the same, difficulty is getting the correct parts though (correct transistors here is such a simple circuit are everything for the tone), and magic is in the biasing and cap choices. Where analysis of BHM actual units it important. I like how the different eras have different specific setting on the potentiometer. Thanks for sharing!!!
There’s a long debate as to the full history of Brian’s TBs
Yes the original was lost by a careless roadie, then Harold built a replacement and there’s also some talk that John Deacon built one prior to Cornish who I gather has spoken of finding the John Deacon version while working for Brian
The Cornish one was introduced in 75 however Brian definitely still has an original Rangemaster because it was used for this pedal and it’s boost range measured by KAT ( Nigel Knight) it’s obviously not the same one that was lost but can’t be too far off of guess in terms of boost range
@@jonathanplanner3270 what a great summary. Didn’t know the history. What I like about this pedal is that the idea is to capture the different tones as BHM’s sound developed over the years. Everyone talks about chasing specific tones. But they don’t really exist outside the studio. Even BHM might dial it in slightly differently each day depending how he feels. As we all do. How is the mayday pedal?? Maybe you already did a review going to look now.
@@peterstune1 The mayday is very good, there’s a review in my videos, there’s also a quick review of the new KAT N-Channel which is basically the same thing, but with real valves so a better end result
Nigel hopes to have these out soon but there’s a delay while we have a valve shortage sadly … but worth waiting for!
Thanks for the review dude. I can’t help but think it’s a lot of money for what it is ! Iv just built a rangemaster with selectable transistors, bias and tone and it cost me £50. Iv posted a video of the build process. Iv also built a deluxe for about £40. Your clearly a Brian May affection ado, have a go at a build.
Ac30 Helix Well it’s three boosters in one and given the single version of the Cornish TB83 is the same price I’d say it wasn’t a bad price
This has been built after taking apart Brian’s old ones to accurately measure them for responses so it’s about as accurate as you can get.
I would like to have a go at building one so I’ll check out your video cheers
Jonathan Planner if you can use a soldering iron you will be surprised at how easy it is !!!
Ac30 Helix yeah I’ve only really done the odd pot solder and cable but I might give it a go cheers
@@jonathanplanner3270 The 70 doesn't sound like a rangemaster germanium transistor for me (it lack the fuzzy sound of it (I have an orignal rangemaster with oc44). I also have a TB83 from Cornish, and sound fatter than a Fryer which I have also but not less gainer. For me, this pedal just share the same transistor with different input cap on the swith, as describe by Greg Fryer. You could go way less expensive with DIY kit. As I also did myself. 300€ is very expensive for just a this simple device. On musikding, the kit cost, 15€...
Ct Ld I think you maybe need to hear in in real life
The modelling was done with the originals
So you are alone in your view
Yuri per chance?
Do you only use a pedal for this demo or do you use different pedals?
On this demo it’s just the KAT nothing else
@@jonathanplanner3270 Thank you very much. I got a VOX AC15C1 Classic Black and a BMG Special. Gonna order the Optima 25k gold strings and I play with a sixpence. Do you think it will sound similar like May's tune?
Yes it will at high volume you will need to attenuate it otherwise even an AC15 will be massively loud
To get his tone the amp has to be flat out so that’s almost impossible unless you are in a studio
You should look at some way to lower the volume but still get the overdrive sound I use an attenuator like a Marshall Power brake
You could look at the Fryer Mayday to use instead of an attenuator check out my videos on that it’s easy to use and you don’t need to modify the amp
@@jonathanplanner3270 Thank you Jonathan, gonna check and see if I can order it from the Netherlands somewhere. I appreciate your help and your video's!
Do you recommend this treble booster for Brian May tones? Is it really that good?
Yes it’s very good, don’t expect a huge difference between the settings, his core tone didn’t change that much, but each one has slightly heavier gain so it does match his sound over the years when paired with an AC30 and Red Special
A good quality TB from Fryer/Cornish or KAT without the 3 settings Will do just as good a job but you don’t get the same flexibility of the 3 settings
Im interested how this pedal compares to nowdays Fryer Treble boosters.
Well it’s identical to the touring because it has that setting, and a very accurate version on the TB83 and Rangemaster, all boosters are frankly only slightly different from each other but with three settings this is one of the most flexible so it will certainly get you the Fryer Touring booster sound that Brian used if that’s what you seek
Can you get a good clean tone without using two ac30s? i have ordered my treble booster and im using a bmg special and a fender mustang amp, do i still get the same crystal clean tone as you or is that because you're using an ac30?
When you roll back the volume you should get a clean tone but I suspect it will be fairly different to the AC30, there’s only a small amount of room on the volume before it goes into distortion hence why Brian has the Superpot fitted now, I’m sure it will work on yours but the fender amp will give a different tone
@@jonathanplanner3270 what's a superpot?
@@anderso.madsen9414 it’s a new volume pot Brian had installed in all guitars it increases the the amount of room you have before the sound starts to increase in gain and break up, so when Brian plays more clean tones it gives him more room on the Vol control, before it he had on a tiny fraction of a turn before it became heavy gain
@@jonathanplanner3270 I'm getting the vox pathfinder 10 and the treble booster classic, do you think the tone will be somewhat close to brian's?
Yes it’s not too far off you can also modify the pathfinder but simply snipping off two red LEDs inside that clean up the random sounds it can make if you are on the Red Special forum there are posts about doing this, the TB is good all you need to do is play with the tone controls to find the best place for them
Where do you put in the batteries ?
The bottom unscrews and you put a 9v in there
Jonathan Planner is the treble booster powerful enough for an vox ac30vr?
@@Simon-wt4ri It has the same output as the boosters it's modelled on give or take a dB so yes, it would work just as well as the Fryer Touring for example or either of the other two with an AC30vr, however the vr series amps will have a slightly different tone compared to a standard AC30, but this booster will work just like any other with it.
@@jonathanplanner3270 with the vr roll a bit of the tone cut off?
How do you charge the booster? i just got mine but theres no power, and it doesnt come with one
Which booster?
@@jonathanplanner3270 the treble booster classic, the led doesnt light up, its supposed to light green
There’s a battery inside you may need to change it or install it the light only comes on when it’s plugged in and the button pressed
@@jonathanplanner3270Is it possible to charge it or do you have to replace the battery?
One the bottom there are four screws just undo them and replace the 9v battery
I got mine as well. But i can't hear any difference between those three modes.
So pity that i paid so many bucks for this "one kind of sound".
My handmade treble booster by scheme of Greg Fryer (for just 60 bucks) is sounding the same, but for less money.
This is the first time i feel myself like an asshole.
Black White What are you playing through?
There’s a big difference between the 70s and 80s sound less so between the 80s and 90s
But I’d say you should be able to hear a pretty big thickening to the sound between the first two
Keep in mind no booster drastically changes the sound however
Is it going straight into he amp and first in line after the guitar? Or do you have other processing somewhere?
@@jonathanplanner3270 guitar - treble booster - JCM800 2203x Reissue - cabinet
Black White okay maybe if you can try it with an AC30 that’s what it’s really designed to be used with and an AC30 is maybe more forgiving
If you look at the recordings first two albums are the 70s tone with a Rangemaster
The 80s really covers every other Queen album and the 90s is Paul Rodgers era
Think live tones really
I think with and AC30 it’s spot on, other amps maybe not so much...
@@jonathanplanner3270 yeah, i was going to buy AC30, but as i know they made in Korea now and has changed my mind about buying. I'm sorry about bad english.
Black White if you get the chance pick up an old TBX AC30 they are terrific at capturing the BM sound
What's up with the noise?
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Holding phones next to amps particularly AC30 style amps will generate static and hum... just part of live amp stuff really plus this type of rig creates a large amount of hiss, the snow storm is normal