Holy shit this is legit the only video I could find that actually shows you how to swap the rear end links. Nice bonus that it's from the only subi youtuber I really like.
@@Smeedia sometime before Christmas is all they'll tell us. You know how the Army can be. My kids and I have already put AWE catback, AOS, and some cygnus x-1 coilovers (21 WRB STI). Gotta grow the next generation! Keep up the awesome work.
Here are the torque specs from the service manual: Bushing clamp (2) - 22.1 ft-lb Endlink (2) - 28 ft-lb Lateral link 17mm - 59 ft-lb I think I will torque mine down using ramps so I can still reach all the bolts. Stolen from commentator on SubieSpeed video
Hey Smeedia, I know this an old video but i've been following you for awhile now, i have a 21 wrx that im starting to mod. I'm tryna decide how much of a difference it would be getting a 22mm vs 24mm? why'd you go with 24mm? I believe the 21 wrx has 19 hollow sway bar... so how big of difference would i feel? I'm tryna just get the understeer to go away .. if that makes sense.
Just curious, is your sway bar upside down ? The oem was bent up in the center, you have the white line facing down. Maybe that's why it's rubbing on you exhaust in your future video. Just my observation. I love your videos, keep em coming. I can't wait to see your ej33 completed.
Thanks for sharing this video! Very helpful and informative. Do you have any advice on what size sway bars to get for a 2020 WRX? I am hoping to introduce a modest amount of oversteer like I had on my 2003 WRX. There is a lot of opinion on the Interwebs and my path forward isn't clear. I am considering 22mm front and 24mm rear. Any thoughts based on your experience?
Hey, just a quick question. In the video you say that you don’t want to tighten anything down without load on the wheels, how would you go about that? It doesn’t seem like you’d have the room when you lower it back down to get under it to tighten everything.
Great video, one question for you that is related... Do you need the front two tires at the same level, on ramps or wooden boards, to balance the weight of the car all the way around to achieve no preload? Or can you achieve zero preload just doing the rear first (on wood or ramps) and then doing the front second (on wood or ramps)? I'll be installing Whiteline adjustable front and rear sway bars and end links soon and want to achieve zero preload. I have ramps and two jacks at my disposal here at home. Thanks so much for any input you can provide!
Yeah. That WRX has a 16mm rsb and 21mm fsb stock. Ive gone up to 22mm (2nd car I've done it with) and rallitek end links (you need end links at minimum). It gets rid of a dramatic amount of body roll on its own and plants the back more and with a 1mm stock front I still get enough controllable bite into corners despite adding tons of chassis bracing too
Hi Smeedia, just a quick question, is the pair of adjustable endlinks mandatory for the white line swaybar? Can I use a pair of non-adjustable kartboy’s?
I've got a rear whiteline swaybar and I'm thinking the endlinks are OEM...when I drive around I'll hear a clunking noise, in the rear when I take turns/go over bumps...I thought it was my exhaust swaying back and fourth but definitely isn't, I just replaced my exhaust bushings with stiffer ones. So what do you think...next step is probably to inspect the end links and figure out where that sound is coming from?
@@Smeedia Fixed it btw my end links were loose and I had a cross threaded bolt on the bracket for the sway bar bushings...Definitely wasn't me that installed the sway bar LOL
Do those Perrin Spherical Endlinks make any noises while driving? I recently installed some Spherical Endlinks onto my car and they make these popping and creaking noises non-stop. It's irritating as hell 😭 Also, were the heights of those rear endlinks approximately the same height? Mine were completely different. My rear passenger one is considerably shorter than my driver side rear one. Couldn't install them onto my rear sway bar without making the driver side taller than the passenger side's. Any tips that I could do to solve this?
@@Smeedia Yep! I made sure to install them where there's load on the sway bars. I jacked the car up onto jack stands and installed the rear endlinks (and rear sway bars) and bolted up the fasteners to the studs until they were snug. I then dropped the car onto some homemade ramps and torqued everything to spec. Funny enough, I've done this installation on and off the car so many times over the course of the past 2 weeks that I've memorized the torque specs to every single bolt in the rear suspension. Still have a bunch of noises :/ Not sure if I should just give up on spherical rear endlinks and order some SuperPro Rear Endlinks (with poly bushings) instead.
@@SkeIIie It's likely that you may have torqued the the endlinks' fasteners while the car was jacked up. I fixed my rear end's clunking noise by re-torquing all of the endlink, sway bar fasteners, and bolts to spec.
@@Smeedia one more question lol since my car is not bag I should be fine with the regular perrin end links right not the spherical like the ones you got.
oh wow, mine have been holding up great, no surface rust and the threads are doing great. Do you live in an area where they salt the roads in the winter?
Holy shit this is legit the only video I could find that actually shows you how to swap the rear end links. Nice bonus that it's from the only subi youtuber I really like.
Crazy going from your current videos to this...still great info. New control arms, sway bar, and endlinks when I get back from deployment.
Eyyyy thank you Anthony! Wild to see how far they've come. And ohhhh when you projected to come back?
@@Smeedia sometime before Christmas is all they'll tell us. You know how the Army can be.
My kids and I have already put AWE catback, AOS, and some cygnus x-1 coilovers (21 WRB STI). Gotta grow the next generation!
Keep up the awesome work.
Here are the torque specs from the service manual:
Bushing clamp (2) - 22.1 ft-lb
Endlink (2) - 28 ft-lb
Lateral link 17mm - 59 ft-lb
I think I will torque mine down using ramps so I can still reach all the bolts.
Stolen from commentator on SubieSpeed video
This is a early video and realized I had seen some but y have sure grown brother. Doing this rear end links look easy. Thank you again
Thank you Drew 🥳
@@Smeedia thank you my friend 🙏😊
cant believe this one doesn get that many thumbs up! This is one of the best tutorial videos i have seen for STI, please keep it up man!
Appreciate the support it's an older one so they tend to get buried a little bit lol 😅
Crazy to see your videography transition to what it is today. Thank you lord for no more shaky cam!
Haha thank you 🙏 definitely a learning curve but getting it figured out 🔥
This is my first time seeing Tanner use a floor jack. Before the quick jacks😂
Lol almost all the old videos are floor jacks 😅 I just got the quick jacks a couple months ago lol
Damn this is way back but really helpful 👍
Definitely and oldie but a goodie 🔥
Shouldn't the hump in the sway bar be facing up and not down? Thanks for the video and assist.
Great stuff bro. Did you you have to grease the bushings? Any squeaking or noises?
Tanner! Why don’t you do slo-mo sneezes anymore?! Had me lol’ing. I’m about to do this install and it’s been super helpful. Thanks dude!
Lmao I totally forgot I did that TBH 🤣🤣🤣
Damn, how did you know all this installs bro? I wish you were close by so I can learn from you 😂
Just over the years 😅 been messing with subarus for about 10 years now lol
Hey Smeedia, I know this an old video but i've been following you for awhile now, i have a 21 wrx that im starting to mod. I'm tryna decide how much of a difference it would be getting a 22mm vs 24mm? why'd you go with 24mm? I believe the 21 wrx has 19 hollow sway bar... so how big of difference would i feel? I'm tryna just get the understeer to go away .. if that makes sense.
Thicker rear sway bar will help reduce understeer. So 24mm is a good spot for daily driving 🫡
Thank you !!
Just curious, is your sway bar upside down ? The oem was bent up in the center, you have the white line facing down. Maybe that's why it's rubbing on you exhaust in your future video. Just my observation. I love your videos, keep em coming. I can't wait to see your ej33 completed.
I don't even know that was so long ago 😅 fairly certain that it is installed correctly 🙏 😁
You said that you dont want to tighten the sway bars until the tires have load on them. Did you have to lower the car and then tighten?
Yessir 🙏
@@Smeedia Thinking through this, could you add ramps under the wheels, load them up while the car is in the air on stands, then tighten everything up?
@@GriogharThomasBaldwin I know your comment is a few months old, but that’s certainly a good way to do it! Stay safe
How much difference did it make to the car handling? Did you notice a huge difference?
Big difference, well worth it if your considering it. Helps fix some of the understeer.
Did you need to replace any gaskets on the exhaust ?
I did not because my exhaust is all Vband, if you have gaskets its never a bad idea
Thanks for sharing this video! Very helpful and informative. Do you have any advice on what size sway bars to get for a 2020 WRX? I am hoping to introduce a modest amount of oversteer like I had on my 2003 WRX. There is a lot of opinion on the Interwebs and my path forward isn't clear. I am considering 22mm front and 24mm rear. Any thoughts based on your experience?
That's what I would do, I always go stiffer in the rear than in the front. Helps greatly with the amount of understeer the car comes with 🔥😁
Hey, just a quick question. In the video you say that you don’t want to tighten anything down without load on the wheels, how would you go about that? It doesn’t seem like you’d have the room when you lower it back down to get under it to tighten everything.
Most people use ramps.
Great video, one question for you that is related... Do you need the front two tires at the same level, on ramps or wooden boards, to balance the weight of the car all the way around to achieve no preload? Or can you achieve zero preload just doing the rear first (on wood or ramps) and then doing the front second (on wood or ramps)? I'll be installing Whiteline adjustable front and rear sway bars and end links soon and want to achieve zero preload. I have ramps and two jacks at my disposal here at home. Thanks so much for any input you can provide!
Ideally if you can get all four up that would be beat so your keeping an even balance on the car, if you cannot at least getting 2 will suffice
@@Smeedia Appreciate the response! Thank you!
If you go with the smallest adjustable sway bar, would you get a more comfortable and better handling ride?
Yeah. That WRX has a 16mm rsb and 21mm fsb stock. Ive gone up to 22mm (2nd car I've done it with) and rallitek end links (you need end links at minimum). It gets rid of a dramatic amount of body roll on its own and plants the back more and with a 1mm stock front I still get enough controllable bite into corners despite adding tons of chassis bracing too
Hi Smeedia, just a quick question, is the pair of adjustable endlinks mandatory for the white line swaybar? Can I use a pair of non-adjustable kartboy’s?
Yessir you can 🙏😁
@@Smeedia got cha! Many thx 🙏🏻🤗
I've got a rear whiteline swaybar and I'm thinking the endlinks are OEM...when I drive around I'll hear a clunking noise, in the rear when I take turns/go over bumps...I thought it was my exhaust swaying back and fourth but definitely isn't, I just replaced my exhaust bushings with stiffer ones. So what do you think...next step is probably to inspect the end links and figure out where that sound is coming from?
I've had similar issues before and it ended up being either my endlinks or the sway bar mounts were a little loose
@@Smeedia Cool I'll check both of those things next thanks bro
@@Smeedia Fixed it btw my end links were loose and I had a cross threaded bolt on the bracket for the sway bar bushings...Definitely wasn't me that installed the sway bar LOL
is it a different install for a 2016 wrx? And how do you know which stiffness to use? (hard, medium, soft) what would be ideal for a street car?
Always suggest medium to start on and exsct same install 😁
How are the Perrin end links holding up? I’m considering doing the same setup.
Awesome, a little surface rust but holding up great 🙏
Do those Perrin Spherical Endlinks make any noises while driving? I recently installed some Spherical Endlinks onto my car and they make these popping and creaking noises non-stop. It's irritating as hell 😭 Also, were the heights of those rear endlinks approximately the same height? Mine were completely different. My rear passenger one is considerably shorter than my driver side rear one. Couldn't install them onto my rear sway bar without making the driver side taller than the passenger side's. Any tips that I could do to solve this?
The Perrin ones do not make any noise at all 😁 as for the height did you install them with load on the rear sway bar or no?
@@Smeedia Yep! I made sure to install them where there's load on the sway bars. I jacked the car up onto jack stands and installed the rear endlinks (and rear sway bars) and bolted up the fasteners to the studs until they were snug. I then dropped the car onto some homemade ramps and torqued everything to spec.
Funny enough, I've done this installation on and off the car so many times over the course of the past 2 weeks that I've memorized the torque specs to every single bolt in the rear suspension. Still have a bunch of noises :/ Not sure if I should just give up on spherical rear endlinks and order some SuperPro Rear Endlinks (with poly bushings) instead.
TheSuaveBOSS I used the super pro rear endlinks, I’m experiencing noise too
@@SkeIIie It's likely that you may have torqued the the endlinks' fasteners while the car was jacked up. I fixed my rear end's clunking noise by re-torquing all of the endlink, sway bar fasteners, and bolts to spec.
So do you put load on the wheels with blocks and then torque to spec? Cuz I didn't see it on the vid
Blocks, ramps, the ground whatever you have that works. I just used the ground and at the time aired the car up to be ablw to access the bolts
@@Smeedia I see thanks allot man that was a quick reply 👍
Anytime! 🙏😁
@@Smeedia one more question lol since my car is not bag I should be fine with the regular perrin end links right not the spherical like the ones you got.
Yessir, regulat ones should be fine 😁
How are the holding up? Mine rusted and all the threads stripped after one winter.
oh wow, mine have been holding up great, no surface rust and the threads are doing great. Do you live in an area where they salt the roads in the winter?
Smeedia I’m in NY so yea salt was definitely a factor.
@@1flysti580 oof, sorry you've got to deal with that. I'm already guessing you've tried undercoat for everything under the car?
Smeedia haven’t yet but maybe I should. Love your build and videos.
@@1flysti580 undercoating should help somewhat to prevent some of that rust, thanks you! The support is greatly appreciated 😁😁😁