Has anyone else noticed that Enneagram diagram with Type 9 circled on it? That means Mobius is the "Peacemaker" personality type, which is true to his character. too bad we don't get his scores on the 6 and 3 as well to see how well integrated he is.
This episode seems to suggest that OB is the only person at the TVA who has not had his memory wiped. Mobius doesn't remember him at all, but OB remembers Mobius as well as specific events from hundreds of years in the past. This is likely because he is the only person who works down below and his job is very important. Also, he wrote the TVA handbook, so it's possible that he's one of the founding members, or someone of great significance.
Yes, but also he could have been memory wiped before that, and not again since. It seems to me, every time they messed up something, they get "reset to factory settings" and as he is all alone there, hardly happens to him. He is like the memory of the TVA
That's exactly what I thought... but I think it is more than that... I think even he who remains forgot that OB exists just like everyone else.. I think it is pretty clear he is made to be a "forgottable" person.
@@rezsurfer2808I don't why your lying, but Ke did an amazing job and was funny the whole time. Of course though, there always has to be people like you who criticizes everything (and anything) no matter how good or bad. Marvel fans are so unthankful.
@@DrSpasticatyou must have not seen the movie “everything everywhere all at once” he played a pretty good role in that. I wouldn’t say brown nosing when people just want to appreciate a actor who’s career was not well known to the general public
He was born to play Ouroboros! Hard to imagine after he's already played such iconic roles already in Temple of Doom, The Goonies, and Everything Everywhere All At Once!
My theory is that the one who pruned Loki is his future self, after reunited with Sylvie. That's why Sylvie said "There you are" to Present Loki, because the both of them were searching for Present Loki to preserve his past self. I'm super confident with this.
@@lastdon6585 it’ll be the same time travel thing as harry potter with his future self saving his past self. would that be paradoxical? i don’t know, maybe, but that’s how movies were made LMAO
there was so much wes anderson inspiration in this episode. the palette, the humour, the writing, everything. even the cinematography, with the perfect symmetry in o.b's room, the war room, and the temporal loom. this show's cinematography is gorgeous, honestly.
This was like watching a finale as a first episode. Just brilliant. Michael Waldron is a genius and how the Loki team does this in just 6 episodes is beyond me.
@@alianetwork6190so you didn’t like season one? And yes youre correct and the writer deserves just as much appreciation but Waldron is still very much involved in the way this series is presented and was created for tv.
Just finished the episode and watching the episode made me feel like I was in 2021 watching the first season. This episode was great, The dynamic and relationship between Loki and Mobius is awesome, and I love how mobius risked his life to save his friend who he hasn’t known for long, says something about his character
The best first episode ever. The way the story is carried from season 1 to 2 is awesome. I liked the way it had a serious tone with a hint of comedy. Enjoyed every damn minute of it.
When we found out Loki was actually going back and forth in time instead of jumping timelines, how they did that made me audibly 😮. Great start to the season.
The scene where Loki gets pruned, right before he moves into the middle of the hallway you can see someone in green behind him. Its pretty clear that is future Loki seeing his past self. Perhaps that future Loki came to the TVA with Silvie to achieve some goal or what not. Upon seeing his past self, he knew what he had to do in order to keep the correct order of timeline events.
It'd be so cool if Renslayer was a Kang variant like Sylvie. But then Kang realizes that it's too dangerous to have one of his variants with him, especially one that would normally be pruned. Super cool twist
sounds awesome, but also didn't we see renslayer's sacred timeline self in the previous season? as far as i can tell, they've established that renslayer and kang are two different people with different and discrete originals on the sacred timeline
I think a future Loki pruned the present Loki in the show's ending. It would fit with the show's theme of Ouroboros - Loki is essentially eating his own tail, so to speak. Also, future Loki might realize that it's necessary for his past self to return in order for him to complete the loop.
Fully agree with this. He'll have a Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban moment and be waiting there for someone to prune him, look down at his own time stick and realise it was himself all along.
I love that they’re showing that time happens in the TVA because literally nothing can happen without time. Like time is just how we perceive the progression of causality, without time literally everything would cease.
I’m glad Kang’s romance with Rennslayer is clearly going to be a prominent part of his character, the way it was explored in “Only myself left to conquer” was amazing and knowing kang he manipulated her life in order to protect her out of twisted love
Agreed, imagine all the great roles we could have, and should have, seen from him throughout the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s. But at least we finally get him now in these great roles! So well deserved!
Is nobody going to mention the cool 70’s filter/film grain they’re using?! It was really noticeable for me because I watched the final moments of season one then immediately jumped into season two. With the beautiful cinematography, the practical sets, and that cool filter season two looks leagues better than the first (and season one was beautiful!)
It should be noted that He Who Remains didn't demote Renslayer to judge (that's what even happened). We see a flashback of her being a Hunter that captured Sylvie. So He Who Remains demoted her to a straight up NPC then she climbed her way up to Judge.
Two things that stood out to me. 1. OB always has what is needed at the time it is needed, duct tape, handbook, extractor. 2. He didn't get his memory erased like the rest of the TVA. He remembers meeting Mobius, but Mobius doesn't remember him. I think he was forgotten about.
I loved obi I hope we get so much more of him this season, I was laughing through the entire memory bit, for marvel having put out some lack luster shows this past year, I’m so happy we got Loki back
Mobius's suit wasn't decaying due to radiation, it was literally aging before our eyes the closer he got to the loom. Duct tape is designed to last a long time so it would stand to reason that it wasn't aging.
Yes, Mobius' suit was decaying as a result of radiation, because _temporal radiation_ is the term used on TVA posters and in front of the "loom room" doors. The "loom room" itself is evocative of a nuclear reactor control room, and in the first scene there, Loki even specifically uses the term "meltdown" to refer to the temporal loom overloading. Further, O.B. states the end result of a large dose of temporal radiation acquired in a short time is death (identical to nuclear radiation). The parallel is beyond question. That said, it should be fairly obvious that direct contact with uncontrolled time energy ("temporal radiation") would most likely cause uncontrolled aging instead of uncontrolled cellular hemorrhaging. This is probably why Mobius' suit is so bulky. I doubt it's made of anything special, just built in layers to provide a timed interval of protection against direct contact with time energy/temporal radiation. The entire point is for it to age away first rather than resist aging at all.
@@00andJoe Exactly. Maybe the comics have something different, but for the moment in the MCU there's no material that's "timeproof" or even "time-resistant." Hazmat PPE for nuclear radiation also provides limited-time protection, though the material is often fairly thin and there are decontamination procedures; the thinness and decontamination would be difficult to convert to a time context, so a bulky suit is a reasonable compromise.
I think the Ouroboros is more significant bcuz in Norse mythology it represents Jormungandr (one of Loki’s children) and when it releases its tail, it represents the start of Ragnarok (final battle of the world) maybe by getting OB involved, it’s equivalent to Jorm releasing his tail since OB seems to be the only one who hasn’t had their memory wiped. He knows the truth
@@FireJach The jokes make more sense where they are and they are mostly in the middle of the episode, where there is the least tension. During the second half they go down on a perfect downward trajectory. This was implemented as well as it could have been
OB said he was given his nickname from Mobius before Loki fell back in time, therefore the memory of Loki giving him that nickname didn’t exist yet. Kind of weird how that works, but I guess that’s the rules they’re going by.
The shot with the reflection of Loki off the floor looks like ripples on a pond, like Loki is the stone thrown in to the flow of time to disrupt everything. Also the entire ending sequence with Owen Wilson retrieving Loki from the time stream was such an awesome callback to the matrix, from OB saying he's not gonna make it and flipping open the cover on the button, the phone ringing as Loki traverses the corridor, to Owen literally shooting a tether to grab Loki like he's grabbing Neos near lifeless corpse from the sewer runoff...what a great episode
Erik: I've been struggling a lot and today was a bad day and I just sat on the couch for 3 hours doom scrolling waiting for Loki 2. Then did it again waiting for this video. I very much appreciate your late night tonight. Your voice, personality and these videos are so entertaining and therapeutic. Thank you and New rockstars for the 5 star content. Also CONGRATS ON THE NEW BABY THIS XMAS!!!!🎉🎉❤❤
I love your enthusiasm for this episode and for Loki in general. Loki is, far and away, my fave MCU thing out there. Thank you for your surgical attention to detail and keep up the good work!
Considering OB remembers basically everything throughout the hundreds or thousands of years, it could be because he works in the room next to the temporal loom so he's constantly bombarded with temporal radiation. OB is the wildcard.
This episode had me hooked from start to finish. I was genuinely feeling worried for Mobius and Loki both and thought that it would lead into a darker direction 😅 Glad things didn’t get any worse
There's something specicifically with Casey's handbook that's going to come into play later. Yeah he's a little jumped scared by loki, but if you watch him he is walking with this book everywhere in the present day timeliness looking in it and is acting like there's some messages in there that have him shook
Such a great episode 1. Those post it notes look like a wall of writers notes. Like He Who Remains wrote these notes to himself for him to better keep track of his world building.
I don't know why the joke of Mobius writing "skin?" in the dust on the console got me so good, but I was chuckling over that for a long time. Also I like how all these warnings are consistent across the dialogue and set design. Like they know specifically that spaghetification and corporeal de-husking, i.e. the removal of skin, are exactly the effects on human bodies from these forces. It's pretty funny.
THEY hit it out of the park! Season 2 episode 1 is SUCH a breath of fresh air and it has renewed my faith in Marvel, They FINALLY get something right! Hopefully the rest of the season remains this good......So STOKED!
Obsessed with Voss's ability to bring up LOST in like every breakdown these days 😂 it makes me so happy to see someone who loves that show as much as I do!!!
I don’t know if this means as much to you as it does to me, but I would just like you to know that I really appreciate your videos about Loki. You really make the show fun to engage with and I’m always excited to see you’ve done another deep dive. Thanks!!
Absolutely Loki Pruned Himself at the end of the episode. When he time slipped into the future it was the not too distant future. We know this because that dial is still in the red and only later in the shot turns green, so Loki is running through the halls of the TVA looking for a Pruning Stick While Mobius is out with the Loom. When Loki gets pulled from the loom and crashes into Mobius, i believe he would still have the memories of seeing Sylvie in the elevator, know exactly where He and Sylvie are in the TVA, giving him enough time to grab the baton, run to that spot, and prune himself in the back. This is also supported by the fact that we don't see who pruned Loki, and it would be way too much to explain in this episode that it was another Loki... The same Loki.
YOOOO! This first episode felt like a season finale 😨! And it’s only gonna get better 😰🫣 LORD THANK YOU GOD FOR THIS FOR THE MCU! They needed this mann…. Finally
I also LOVE when OBs memory updates in real time you almost NEVER seen that in time travel shows because well when you go to rhe past usually you create a new timeline instead of staying on the same one so yes very cool
The first episode was insane more darker ,and intense than i thought im excited to see where this season leaves us literally cant wait for the next episode💚.
The most hidden Easter egg in all of the MCU is variations, or variants if you will, on the number 17. It is in almost every film, even multiple times in the same film sometimes. I don't know what it means, but I've tried to alert this channel to it before. It's even in the Ed Norton Hulk film. 🤯
You Know, OB pulled Loki from the time stream to stabilize him in the TVA, he actually might have done this to all the TVA workers who were also variants and experienced time slipping during the making of TVA because every variant is unstable at TVA which is the reason why every court decision in TVA were all guilty and hence they were pruned because they will become unstable at some point like loki .And also because of this reason, OB says it is impossible to time slip in the TVA because only people allowed here are the ones who have been pulled from time stream and the rest variants are pruned. It all makes sense.
Loki mentioned he was now in the future, he knows he needs to be pruned. I think he, in the future, goes and prunes himself so he can still meet with Sylvie and answer the phone
Bro you can see a different loki behind loki when he looks at the ringing phone, idk how Eric missed that shit. I caught it when I watched the episode a second time.
or … & hear me out, it was kinda like that girl in Multiverse of Madness - Loki somehow was time jumping to where he needed to be & was doing it subconsciously but I’ve also heard the theory he’s stuck in a time loop so who knows
I think that's also why she says "there you are", because she is expecting to see him there and to your point since it's in the future, what we saw is likely towards the end of the season where they find out what is going on after 1982 Oklahoma stuff and Timely/world fair stuff.
@@KomaValorina ig we’ll find out considering this show and episode specifically is very time travel heavy, so I’m sure their story will lead to that point
Pretty interesting that Obi seems like he's the only agent that hasn't had his mind reset. The fact that he has retro active memory formation because Loki is talking to him
I'm curious how all the variants in the TVA are immortal. I know the TVA exists outside of time, but it also has it's own timeline, so I wonder how they stop the variants aging.
Hey guys, was an awesome series 2 start. @3:15 in this video the thing I hear that peaks my interest is that they say " what does he wants us to do, does he want us to let it all branch" key word being "he" and not them the time keeper's
this opening episode was perfect, one of the best parts when loki was talking to Obe in the past and he started to remember in the present, it was worth the wait.
LOKI & MOBIUS, another couple of MCU Besties 🤙 So cool that the theories and speculations get so crazy again 😂 the episode did a damn great job for me 🥳
Can we just shoutout the editors and writers and basically everyone at NRHQ for getting this out so fast. I just finished watching the episode like damn...
@@kylespratt4072 oh damn i didn't know that but it's still nice considering the amount of other projects and channels that are being run at the same time
I don't think the branching in the past is truly a "past" incident. All of time is happening simultaneously, just like how OB is only remember meeting Loki before because Loki had just gone back in time. The branching timeline disaster we're seeing in the present is happening simultaneously throughout the TVA's past.
No it has a past the workers of the TVA just didn’t know this the present they see is what they think existed forever. Loki jumping through time showcased that for one people are losing their memories as well as things being different throughout each time The TVA was built by HWR, he got his variants and got to work. They won the war and throughout the existence of TVA they worked to refine the timeline into the sacred timeline. Everything that happens to the loom after it was freed is seen throughout all of the existence of the TVA it’s how HWR at the end of time can see the loom fall apart because that is simply how It looks at that point in time without the actual mechanism around it and the TVA but the citadel for one should be in the exact space as the TVA
That’d be cool… good perspective… I like this but I wonder about things like the crack on the floor and the live convo they are each having with ob unless we’re watching different universes simultaneously
This is a really good hypothesis. Because the branches are spilling over from all throughout the timeline - all of TVA is noticing it at the same time.
I've been really upset with what Marvel has been giving us. But I absolutely love the Loki and Moon Knight series. Moon Knight deserves a season 2 or movie.
I feel moon knight's casting was perfect but the pacing kinda felt all over the place to me. Unless that was the intentjon because having split personalities also feels being all over the place but idk Character development and acting was top notch tho
The scene with the faces of Kang is actually the different leaders like Rama Tut, etc. (on the far left you can see the head piece he wears). Check it out.
The War Room table has strategic points in the form of a timeline, similar to the ones referenced in the scene from Dr. Strangelove at 14:36. The past being smaller, linear and more contained. The table in the present being much larger, zigzag and out of control.
What an awesome kickoff to S2. Loki S1 is my favorite Marvel thing post-Endgame and one of the major reasons I didn't completely check out after Secret Invasion.
I need a visual guide to the time slipping getting fixed. I get the fact he was pulled from moments in time, I’m just confused how they fixed it, because pruning would send you to the void. There was this amazing video I saw of Tenet being explained. It had these visuals and words that made it immediately make sense in my head.
With timing so specific, it might be he has to be moving from one timeline to another (not established in a particular timeline) to be pulled from the stream. So he didn't necessarily have to be pruned to the void, he just had to be between timelines.
pretty sure pruning just moves u out of time its like a computer bug that puts u in 2 places at once (loki present and future) then if u prune u get nuked out of timelines compltetly and they can get him back
Thanks for all your replies. I rewatched it and it made more sense. However, I don’t think it is the end of the time slipping. In the trailer we saw in timeslipping on different places.
I think the delivery truck making the kang statue crumble is a subtle reference the the poem Ozymandias by Percy Shelley ("a shattered vissage lies") as kang is that exact "King of kings" figure who wants to rule forever anyone interested should deffo check out all the annotations of the poem bc it really makes a lot of sense!
This might be unrelated (what is in the speculation nation?), but in the UA-cam teaser for this episode, the audio used for Casey's tape he listens to while he sweeps is the EXACT same tape that Steven uses to stay awake in EP 1 of Moon Knight! "Solving puzzles is a great way to keep your mind..." can be heard as he removes his headphones. I thought this might just be either a reference to another MCU property or an inside joke among writers (maybe Casey as a tendency to fall asleep on the job?), but the fact that they replaced the audio is interesting. Maybe just an early draft of the scene, maybe something more! Any thoughts?
I feel like Loki jumping off the ledge and falling into that mail truck was more of a throwback to Thor pushing Loki out of the Dark Elf ship into the more boat like ship the Asgardians fly around in in Thor The Dark World
I think the events with branching timelines happened at all points of time in TVA at once. When Loki moved to the future, he seen the same timeline branching as in present and in the past
@charlesgrant6326 it's complicated, but generally, since TVA timeline is detached from the rest, you could observe the same event from different points of TVA timeline (similarly to how you could travel to the same time/space location from different points in TVA)
Such a great start for the season and love the energy and chemistry between Loki And Mobius. Ke crushed it. Can't wait for the rest and hope to get Hemsworth's Thor.
Check out Erik Voss and Maude Garrett talking more about this episode over the Breakroom channel - tinyurl.com/44hy8amr
How did Mobius leave the void?
@@jp2650 He left with Renslayer's Tempad that he got from Sylvie.
Has anyone else noticed that Enneagram diagram with Type 9 circled on it? That means Mobius is the "Peacemaker" personality type, which is true to his character. too bad we don't get his scores on the 6 and 3 as well to see how well integrated he is.
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This episode seems to suggest that OB is the only person at the TVA who has not had his memory wiped. Mobius doesn't remember him at all, but OB remembers Mobius as well as specific events from hundreds of years in the past. This is likely because he is the only person who works down below and his job is very important. Also, he wrote the TVA handbook, so it's possible that he's one of the founding members, or someone of great significance.
Yes, but also he could have been memory wiped before that, and not again since. It seems to me, every time they messed up something, they get "reset to factory settings" and as he is all alone there, hardly happens to him. He is like the memory of the TVA
OB has been forgotten in the basement dungeon. Kang either is playing a long game with OB, or he made a fatal error with forgetting OB.
That's exactly what I thought... but I think it is more than that... I think even he who remains forgot that OB exists just like everyone else.. I think it is pretty clear he is made to be a "forgottable" person.
maybe someone will kill OB and the handbook is the only way to fix some upcoming problem
I theorize that OB is simply another "good" variant of Kang's.
The writing on this show is just phenomenal and Ke Huy Quan is a perfect fit in every aspect. Damn it feels good to have this show back
Reality is NO ONE cared where ke Quan was... until he showed up and won a award. Stop lying.
@@rezsurfer2808I don't why your lying, but Ke did an amazing job and was funny the whole time. Of course though, there always has to be people like you who criticizes everything (and anything) no matter how good or bad. Marvel fans are so unthankful.
IKR! Faith in MARVEL Renewed!
@@rezsurfer2808yeah why is everyone brown nosing him
@@DrSpasticatyou must have not seen the movie “everything everywhere all at once” he played a pretty good role in that. I wouldn’t say brown nosing when people just want to appreciate a actor who’s career was not well known to the general public
Ke Huy Quan is such a gem in this episode. I loved this episode so, so much. And, hey, thanks for posting this today.
He was born to play Ouroboros! Hard to imagine after he's already played such iconic roles already in Temple of Doom, The Goonies, and Everything Everywhere All At Once!
@@NewRockstarscompletely agree
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Favorite part
I was SOCKED when I told my wifey he gives off short round vibes from temple of doom. Only to look it up and HES THE SAME PERSON! 🤯
My theory is that the one who pruned Loki is his future self, after reunited with Sylvie. That's why Sylvie said "There you are" to Present Loki, because the both of them were searching for Present Loki to preserve his past self. I'm super confident with this.
Wouldn't that be a paradox? He would first have to have survived that moment to make it to the future, to then go back to save himself
Ur wrong
@@lastdon6585 it’ll be the same time travel thing as harry potter with his future self saving his past self. would that be paradoxical? i don’t know, maybe, but that’s how movies were made LMAO
@@johnjacob9819 why would it be
@@lastdon6585 That's what I want to know as well!! There are just so many time travel theories now in MCU.
there was so much wes anderson inspiration in this episode. the palette, the humour, the writing, everything. even the cinematography, with the perfect symmetry in o.b's room, the war room, and the temporal loom. this show's cinematography is gorgeous, honestly.
This was like watching a finale as a first episode. Just brilliant. Michael Waldron is a genius and how the Loki team does this in just 6 episodes is beyond me.
Michael Waldron was not the writer of this season. He is the worst writer in history.
@@alianetwork6190so you didn’t like season one? And yes youre correct and the writer deserves just as much appreciation but Waldron is still very much involved in the way this series is presented and was created for tv.
@@zerokool2575loki being in love with someone who shares the same amount of dna as a twin sister was bad writing
@@CheeseSandwich except the dna is even more similar
@@CheeseSandwichWhy
Just finished the episode and watching the episode made me feel like I was in 2021 watching the first season. This episode was great, The dynamic and relationship between Loki and Mobius is awesome, and I love how mobius risked his life to save his friend who he hasn’t known for long, says something about his character
for real i love them>>>
Agreed
The best first episode ever. The way the story is carried from season 1 to 2 is awesome. I liked the way it had a serious tone with a hint of comedy. Enjoyed every damn minute of it.
You know you're getting good content when the breakdown is as long or longer than the Loki episode 😂
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Michael more unit can't be a real name
@@Darkness-ie2ylMichael Morecock is the correct name
When we found out Loki was actually going back and forth in time instead of jumping timelines, how they did that made me audibly 😮. Great start to the season.
Yeahhh!! That Moment with the crack in the floor was really good!
I love when they knock out most trailer footage in the first couple of episodes.
Yes! They showed so much trailer footage of just like half this episode lol. I'm so excited for the unknown!
I actually said "I can't believe we get all this in the first episode". Saves me from waiting for that one bit the rest of the season.
it's perfect
Why even watch the trailers
this is one of the best season opening episodes ive ever seen, it felt like a finale i even teared up that says a lot for an opening episode
Same It was so suspenseful and left me wanting more answers I loved it
why would you tear up😹
The scene where Loki gets pruned, right before he moves into the middle of the hallway you can see someone in green behind him. Its pretty clear that is future Loki seeing his past self. Perhaps that future Loki came to the TVA with Silvie to achieve some goal or what not. Upon seeing his past self, he knew what he had to do in order to keep the correct order of timeline events.
Great eye!
I been trying to rewind and rewind to see what you saw 😆
Yeah that the most logical explanation in a time travel story. And we will see that scene again in future episodes
Possibly, but who was calling?!
@@mvazquez3551these days? Someone from “Microsoft security” to let you know about a threat to your computer. If you could just give them access…
It'd be so cool if Renslayer was a Kang variant like Sylvie. But then Kang realizes that it's too dangerous to have one of his variants with him, especially one that would normally be pruned. Super cool twist
Mind blown
Please no I don’t want another creepy self love like they did with Sylvie and Loki
sounds awesome, but also didn't we see renslayer's sacred timeline self in the previous season? as far as i can tell, they've established that renslayer and kang are two different people with different and discrete originals on the sacred timeline
@laverdadescatolica5 I mean that was the whole point of the Kang wars before they all wanted to be the best
I think a future Loki pruned the present Loki in the show's ending. It would fit with the show's theme of Ouroboros - Loki is essentially eating his own tail, so to speak. Also, future Loki might realize that it's necessary for his past self to return in order for him to complete the loop.
That makes sense
Fully agree with this. He'll have a Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban moment and be waiting there for someone to prune him, look down at his own time stick and realise it was himself all along.
What if the He Who Remains we saw in last season was Loki too, after Kang was defeated, Loki took over the TVA, and he had to transform to Kang
But how does loki have a future then if he gets lost in time?
@@meekolotDoesn't seem plausible though?
I literally just finished the episode. What a great start! And good timing for this
Literally lmao was hoping id get a video tn😂
they get the episodes early through screeners
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I love that they’re showing that time happens in the TVA because literally nothing can happen without time. Like time is just how we perceive the progression of causality, without time literally everything would cease.
YOU'RE A GOAT FOR GETTING THIS OUT SO FAST. It was an incredible episode. So excited to have this exciting series back!
Fr! I just got done watching it, and my boy already has a breakdown posted! GOAT 🔥
It's also a huge thanks to our amazing editors!
@@NewRockstarsdo y’all not get screener for stuff?
that's how @@treycorte2203
@@treycorte2203I believe they sometimes do but probably also want to sometimes watch it at the same time with the fans too.
I’m glad Kang’s romance with Rennslayer is clearly going to be a prominent part of his character, the way it was explored in “Only myself left to conquer” was amazing and knowing kang he manipulated her life in order to protect her out of twisted love
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I love how stressful and intense this ep. I hope it stays like this.
Crazy to know Ke Huy Quan had such a hard time in Hollywood, when he is clearly a really good actor.
Agreed, imagine all the great roles we could have, and should have, seen from him throughout the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s. But at least we finally get him now in these great roles! So well deserved!
How many actors doesn't make it???
He kept up PERFECTLY w Hiddleston and Wilson’s comedic pacing!
A comedy boss that does distress top tier
The world they built the TVA is astounding i love all the detail in it.
Is nobody going to mention the cool 70’s filter/film grain they’re using?! It was really noticeable for me because I watched the final moments of season one then immediately jumped into season two. With the beautiful cinematography, the practical sets, and that cool filter season two looks leagues better than the first (and season one was beautiful!)
Yess
Ooow thats it !
Absolutely. It's so beautifully cinematic, even Scorsese would agree
@@videochannel5183 now thats a controversial and delicate subject lol. Since Scorsese despises mcu type movies so much
It should be noted that He Who Remains didn't demote Renslayer to judge (that's what even happened). We see a flashback of her being a Hunter that captured Sylvie. So He Who Remains demoted her to a straight up NPC then she climbed her way up to Judge.
Two things that stood out to me. 1. OB always has what is needed at the time it is needed, duct tape, handbook, extractor. 2. He didn't get his memory erased like the rest of the TVA. He remembers meeting Mobius, but Mobius doesn't remember him. I think he was forgotten about.
I knew Season 2 of Loki wouldn't disappoint us. It's only going to get better 💯💯💯💯
I loved obi I hope we get so much more of him this season, I was laughing through the entire memory bit, for marvel having put out some lack luster shows this past year, I’m so happy we got Loki back
Mobius's suit wasn't decaying due to radiation, it was literally aging before our eyes the closer he got to the loom. Duct tape is designed to last a long time so it would stand to reason that it wasn't aging.
ohhhh that does make sense, as he’s being exposed to literal… time.
....I thought that was pretty obvious. Are there alot of people that didn't realize what was going on there? OB literally explained it!?
Yes, Mobius' suit was decaying as a result of radiation, because _temporal radiation_ is the term used on TVA posters and in front of the "loom room" doors. The "loom room" itself is evocative of a nuclear reactor control room, and in the first scene there, Loki even specifically uses the term "meltdown" to refer to the temporal loom overloading. Further, O.B. states the end result of a large dose of temporal radiation acquired in a short time is death (identical to nuclear radiation). The parallel is beyond question. That said, it should be fairly obvious that direct contact with uncontrolled time energy ("temporal radiation") would most likely cause uncontrolled aging instead of uncontrolled cellular hemorrhaging.
This is probably why Mobius' suit is so bulky. I doubt it's made of anything special, just built in layers to provide a timed interval of protection against direct contact with time energy/temporal radiation. The entire point is for it to age away first rather than resist aging at all.
@@thetimekeeper955 Basically, the suit is ablative armor.
@@00andJoe Exactly. Maybe the comics have something different, but for the moment in the MCU there's no material that's "timeproof" or even "time-resistant." Hazmat PPE for nuclear radiation also provides limited-time protection, though the material is often fairly thin and there are decontamination procedures; the thinness and decontamination would be difficult to convert to a time context, so a bulky suit is a reasonable compromise.
I think the Ouroboros is more significant bcuz in Norse mythology it represents Jormungandr (one of Loki’s children) and when it releases its tail, it represents the start of Ragnarok (final battle of the world) maybe by getting OB involved, it’s equivalent to Jorm releasing his tail since OB seems to be the only one who hasn’t had their memory wiped. He knows the truth
“There’s no flaw to that logic.” My absolute favorite line from my new absolute favorite character in Loki 😂 WE NEED MORE KE AS OB
I literally just finished it and it was sooooo good. I LOVE the tone of this episode.
I love how fast it moved, and how it never slowed down from that heart-pounding intensity!
if they cut out the jokes, it would be perfect
@@FireJach oh well
@@FireJach The jokes make more sense where they are and they are mostly in the middle of the episode, where there is the least tension. During the second half they go down on a perfect downward trajectory. This was implemented as well as it could have been
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the paradox of Loki giving OB his nickname but OB told him his nickname in the future
I think Mobius could have given him the nickname in a point in time AFTER loki was there in the past
@@zerocool21true, I thought about this after
OB said he was given his nickname from Mobius before Loki fell back in time, therefore the memory of Loki giving him that nickname didn’t exist yet. Kind of weird how that works, but I guess that’s the rules they’re going by.
The shot with the reflection of Loki off the floor looks like ripples on a pond, like Loki is the stone thrown in to the flow of time to disrupt everything.
Also the entire ending sequence with Owen Wilson retrieving Loki from the time stream was such an awesome callback to the matrix, from OB saying he's not gonna make it and flipping open the cover on the button, the phone ringing as Loki traverses the corridor, to Owen literally shooting a tether to grab Loki like he's grabbing Neos near lifeless corpse from the sewer runoff...what a great episode
21:45 this gag really got me. I was super immersed in the whole moment, that when it happened, it broke my immersion, but I loved how it was done.
I like that O.B keep saying "wow" when he met Mobius again for last 400 years
Erik: I've been struggling a lot and today was a bad day and I just sat on the couch for 3 hours doom scrolling waiting for Loki 2.
Then did it again waiting for this video.
I very much appreciate your late night tonight. Your voice, personality and these videos are so entertaining and therapeutic.
Thank you and New rockstars for the 5 star content.
Also CONGRATS ON THE NEW BABY THIS XMAS!!!!🎉🎉❤❤
This is very very kind. Thank you.
I came here for the same thing. My new cat just got put down for a heart disease they could not treat and his videos have helped me cope with the pain
I love your enthusiasm for this episode and for Loki in general.
Loki is, far and away, my fave MCU thing out there.
Thank you for your surgical attention to detail and keep up the good work!
Considering OB remembers basically everything throughout the hundreds or thousands of years, it could be because he works in the room next to the temporal loom so he's constantly bombarded with temporal radiation. OB is the wildcard.
Damn. Maybe he should have gone in the suit.
No, that would have been too risky.
This episode had me hooked from start to finish. I was genuinely feeling worried for Mobius and Loki both and thought that it would lead into a darker direction 😅 Glad things didn’t get any worse
loki and mobius are back!! 🫡
There's something specicifically with Casey's handbook that's going to come into play later. Yeah he's a little jumped scared by loki, but if you watch him he is walking with this book everywhere in the present day timeliness looking in it and is acting like there's some messages in there that have him shook
Oh yea that handbook = this seasons Chekovs gun
@@Lillian.Gao. I think it's specifically Casey's little book
im calling this season to be like a loop and loki will go thru the loop telling casey to write things down
@noname-sl7vf that is a really interesting theory and I do think that's highly possible
Such a great episode 1. Those post it notes look like a wall of writers notes. Like He Who Remains wrote these notes to himself for him to better keep track of his world building.
I don't know why the joke of Mobius writing "skin?" in the dust on the console got me so good, but I was chuckling over that for a long time. Also I like how all these warnings are consistent across the dialogue and set design. Like they know specifically that spaghetification and corporeal de-husking, i.e. the removal of skin, are exactly the effects on human bodies from these forces. It's pretty funny.
THEY hit it out of the park! Season 2 episode 1 is SUCH a breath of fresh air and it has renewed my faith in Marvel, They FINALLY get something right! Hopefully the rest of the season remains this good......So STOKED!
Obsessed with Voss's ability to bring up LOST in like every breakdown these days 😂 it makes me so happy to see someone who loves that show as much as I do!!!
I admit to loving it. The time travel discussion with Loki, mobius and OB was the best I have ever seen.
Honestly this is exactly what we need more of, this was exactly what I wanted Ke Huy Quan was just amazing everyone was amazing
Thank you for posting it right now, I just got finished watching and it was okay to me but thank you for deciphering it❤❤
I don’t know if this means as much to you as it does to me, but I would just like you to know that I really appreciate your videos about Loki. You really make the show fun to engage with and I’m always excited to see you’ve done another deep dive. Thanks!!
I hope they see your comment, it would mean a lot to them to see it 💯❤
Absolutely Loki Pruned Himself at the end of the episode. When he time slipped into the future it was the not too distant future. We know this because that dial is still in the red and only later in the shot turns green, so Loki is running through the halls of the TVA looking for a Pruning Stick While Mobius is out with the Loom. When Loki gets pulled from the loom and crashes into Mobius, i believe he would still have the memories of seeing Sylvie in the elevator, know exactly where He and Sylvie are in the TVA, giving him enough time to grab the baton, run to that spot, and prune himself in the back. This is also supported by the fact that we don't see who pruned Loki, and it would be way too much to explain in this episode that it was another Loki... The same Loki.
His Future becomes his Past.
YOOOO! This first episode felt like a season finale 😨! And it’s only gonna get better 😰🫣 LORD THANK YOU GOD FOR THIS FOR THE MCU! They needed this mann…. Finally
It had more intensity than 90% of everything we've seen in the MCU since Endgame, IMO
Bruh I said the exact same thing it actually had stakes
I'm so stoked to see Council of Kangs and Jonathan Majors playing this role! Can't wait to see more of that in next few episodes!🙌🏽
This was such a beautiful episode I haven't enjoyed a series or episode this much in so long.
I’m actually hooked in with Loki season 2 now, I love this show. When Möbius was about to die I was terrified but relieved when Loki was saved
I also LOVE when OBs memory updates in real time you almost NEVER seen that in time travel shows because well when you go to rhe past usually you create a new timeline instead of staying on the same one so yes very cool
Off Ahsoka and immediately into Loki 😁 I love it!
What a chad..its just been 5 hours and you already uploaded such a good quality video..excellent work
I call it now, that Sylvie pulling the elevator door scene is gonna be in the last episode or at least a very important scene to conclude this season.
Interesting what do you think could happen was that a future where the Kang council attacks the TVA members?
Thank you @NewRockstars. You add so much clarity to these incredibly detailed shows and movies.
26:33 - they also store things across time in Tenet
36:20 of the episode you can see Loki behind Loki creeping up on him to prune him
Just finished the episode. Watching this is the obvious next step.
Also, will Loki ever end up in the Marvel opening credits? 🤔
No. Despite being there for 15 *YEARS!*
For sure. Literally will watch the episode just so I can run here and they tell me everything I missed lol
I thought he had been in them at various stages? They're always changing it
The first episode was insane more darker ,and intense than i thought im excited to see where this season leaves us literally cant wait for the next episode💚.
The most hidden Easter egg in all of the MCU is variations, or variants if you will, on the number 17. It is in almost every film, even multiple times in the same film sometimes. I don't know what it means, but I've tried to alert this channel to it before. It's even in the Ed Norton Hulk film. 🤯
What do you mean? Any examples?
You Know, OB pulled Loki from the time stream to stabilize him in the TVA, he actually might have done this to all the TVA workers who were also variants and experienced time slipping during the making of TVA because every variant is unstable at TVA which is the reason why every court decision in TVA were all guilty and hence they were pruned because they will become unstable at some point like loki .And also because of this reason, OB says it is impossible to time slip in the TVA because only people allowed here are the ones who have been pulled from time stream and the rest variants are pruned.
It all makes sense.
Sheeeesh
Loki mentioned he was now in the future, he knows he needs to be pruned. I think he, in the future, goes and prunes himself so he can still meet with Sylvie and answer the phone
Bro you can see a different loki behind loki when he looks at the ringing phone, idk how Eric missed that shit. I caught it when I watched the episode a second time.
or … & hear me out, it was kinda like that girl in Multiverse of Madness - Loki somehow was time jumping to where he needed to be & was doing it subconsciously but I’ve also heard the theory he’s stuck in a time loop so who knows
I think that's also why she says "there you are", because she is expecting to see him there and to your point since it's in the future, what we saw is likely towards the end of the season where they find out what is going on after 1982 Oklahoma stuff and Timely/world fair stuff.
How does that work if there's only 1 Loki in the TVA and why is Sylvie even there
@@KomaValorina ig we’ll find out considering this show and episode specifically is very time travel heavy, so I’m sure their story will lead to that point
I literally just finished the episode when I got the notification that this video got released
We timed it for you, Jesse!
The loom looks like the machine that Victor Timely is displaying in the trailers
Pretty interesting that Obi seems like he's the only agent that hasn't had his mind reset. The fact that he has retro active memory formation because Loki is talking to him
That retro active memory thing could be a reason to why he's not been wiped by king or even maybe it's impossible not wipe his memories
I'm curious how all the variants in the TVA are immortal. I know the TVA exists outside of time, but it also has it's own timeline, so I wonder how they stop the variants aging.
They are MCU's Stormtroopers. No Wonder an 11 year old girl named Sylvie single-handedly destroyed them.
You answered your own question i think....'exists outside of time' .
they outside of the time streams
Anti aging key lime pie
@@ked49😂😂😂😂
Love your breakdowns Erik!!! Am excited to experience this show with you once again and with everyone else
Hey guys, was an awesome series 2 start. @3:15 in this video the thing I hear that peaks my interest is that they say " what does he wants us to do, does he want us to let it all branch" key word being "he" and not them the time keeper's
this opening episode was perfect, one of the best parts when loki was talking to Obe in the past and he started to remember in the present, it was worth the wait.
Kangs face was just so cute when that elevator opened lol 😍
What a hell of a first episode. Gosh Owen Wilson is so good. Everything was perfect
The camera work in this episode was crisp
LOKI & MOBIUS, another couple of MCU Besties 🤙
So cool that the theories and speculations get so crazy again 😂
the episode did a damn great job for me 🥳
Can we just shoutout the editors and writers and basically everyone at NRHQ for getting this out so fast. I just finished watching the episode like damn...
They got to see the first four episodes early.. like a few days ago. So really they could of just had this ready prior to today
@@kylespratt4072 oh damn i didn't know that but it's still nice considering the amount of other projects and channels that are being run at the same time
23:59 Möbius and Ouroboros being in this is, to a Xenoblade fan, hilarious.
Loved how OB responds with 'Wow' to everything Owen Wilson says... And how they reference "Everything Everywhere All At Once" in the dialogue.
I don't think the branching in the past is truly a "past" incident. All of time is happening simultaneously, just like how OB is only remember meeting Loki before because Loki had just gone back in time. The branching timeline disaster we're seeing in the present is happening simultaneously throughout the TVA's past.
This was also my interpretation
No it has a past the workers of the TVA just didn’t know this the present they see is what they think existed forever.
Loki jumping through time showcased that for one people are losing their memories as well as things being different throughout each time
The TVA was built by HWR, he got his variants and got to work. They won the war and throughout the existence of TVA they worked to refine the timeline into the sacred timeline.
Everything that happens to the loom after it was freed is seen throughout all of the existence of the TVA it’s how HWR at the end of time can see the loom fall apart because that is simply how
It looks at that point in time without the actual mechanism around it and the TVA but the citadel for one should be in the exact space as the TVA
That’d be cool… good perspective… I like this but I wonder about things like the crack on the floor and the live convo they are each having with ob unless we’re watching different universes simultaneously
This is a really good hypothesis. Because the branches are spilling over from all throughout the timeline - all of TVA is noticing it at the same time.
I've been really upset with what Marvel has been giving us.
But I absolutely love the Loki and Moon Knight series. Moon Knight deserves a season 2 or movie.
I feel moon knight's casting was perfect but the pacing kinda felt all over the place to me. Unless that was the intentjon because having split personalities also feels being all over the place but idk
Character development and acting was top notch tho
Off to a great start!
The scene with the faces of Kang is actually the different leaders like Rama Tut, etc. (on the far left you can see the head piece he wears). Check it out.
The War Room table has strategic points in the form of a timeline, similar to the ones referenced in the scene from Dr. Strangelove at 14:36. The past being smaller, linear and more contained. The table in the present being much larger, zigzag and out of control.
What an awesome kickoff to S2. Loki S1 is my favorite Marvel thing post-Endgame and one of the major reasons I didn't completely check out after Secret Invasion.
I need a visual guide to the time slipping getting fixed. I get the fact he was pulled from moments in time, I’m just confused how they fixed it, because pruning would send you to the void.
There was this amazing video I saw of Tenet being explained. It had these visuals and words that made it immediately make sense in my head.
I imagine that pruning sends you to the void, BUT the transmission can be intercepted.
With timing so specific, it might be he has to be moving from one timeline to another (not established in a particular timeline) to be pulled from the stream.
So he didn't necessarily have to be pruned to the void, he just had to be between timelines.
pretty sure pruning just moves u out of time its like a computer bug that puts u in 2 places at once (loki present and future) then if u prune u get nuked out of timelines compltetly and they can get him back
Thanks for all your replies. I rewatched it and it made more sense. However, I don’t think it is the end of the time slipping. In the trailer we saw in timeslipping on different places.
@@danamarvelstar i personally think it might be his power imagine hes fighting someone and then tpes to the past to make a bed fall on him
This is what I've been waiting for!!!
I think the delivery truck making the kang statue crumble is a subtle reference the the poem Ozymandias by Percy Shelley ("a shattered vissage lies") as kang is that exact "King of kings" figure who wants to rule forever anyone interested should deffo check out all the annotations of the poem bc it really makes a lot of sense!
i absolutely loved s2e1, had me on the edge of my seat from the first 30 seconds
I was almost as excited to watch this breakdown as I was to watch the actual episode!
LOKI BREAKDOWNS ARE BACK!!
This might be unrelated (what is in the speculation nation?), but in the UA-cam teaser for this episode, the audio used for Casey's tape he listens to while he sweeps is the EXACT same tape that Steven uses to stay awake in EP 1 of Moon Knight! "Solving puzzles is a great way to keep your mind..." can be heard as he removes his headphones. I thought this might just be either a reference to another MCU property or an inside joke among writers (maybe Casey as a tendency to fall asleep on the job?), but the fact that they replaced the audio is interesting. Maybe just an early draft of the scene, maybe something more!
Any thoughts?
I feel like Loki jumping off the ledge and falling into that mail truck was more of a throwback to Thor pushing Loki out of the Dark Elf ship into the more boat like ship the Asgardians fly around in in Thor The Dark World
Loki is EASILY the best Disney+ content so far
the amount of detail put into marvel is the most engaging thing ever.
I think the events with branching timelines happened at all points of time in TVA at once. When Loki moved to the future, he seen the same timeline branching as in present and in the past
@charlesgrant6326 it's complicated, but generally, since TVA timeline is detached from the rest, you could observe the same event from different points of TVA timeline (similarly to how you could travel to the same time/space location from different points in TVA)
Jesus just couldnt wait could you? 😂
Yeah 😂i want to whatch but Many videos shows moves to whatch and this IS bit long
I actually really like how they’ve changed the rules of time travel in the TVA compared to Endgame. ‘Time works a little differently in the TVA’
LOKI is the G.O.A.T.!!! My favorite series by far!
Such a great start for the season and love the energy and chemistry between Loki And Mobius. Ke crushed it. Can't wait for the rest and hope to get Hemsworth's Thor.