Watch former European MEP and British political powerhouse Nigel Farage discussing the future of UK politics with the Lotus Eaters at the 2023 Conservative Party Conference!
Mhm too much reliance on MSM, which is why the OSB (Online Safety Bill) went through parliament and passed without as so much as a hiccup of resistance from the public. Something our illustrious MPs often depend on for their nonsense bills.
Really? Reform the ex brexit party? The ones whom are linked to tories that destroyed the economy with lies? Please vote for them I'd love to see a collapsed uk maybe it's time this tyrant country collapsed.
It was Carl's less well conceived "plan purple" for UKIP a good few years ago now, he's changed a lot since then so Nige needs to let bygones be bygones.
@@brad5426 It was essentially a popular infiltration of UKIP by young people lead by 3 UA-camrs, Carl, Dankula, and PJW. They wanted to replace the leaders already in place. It was actually needed at the time but it caused a lot of disruption and upset amongst the long-timers.
They were proven right though. As soon as the MSM sunk its teeth into UKIP, the old school committee kicked Farage out. Nigel should recognise that Carl was right, UKIP was doomed.
Proportional Representation from where I am looking only benefits the Party System and not the people. In Ireland it has left us with leaders who were defeated in their own constituencies, as they we’re extremely unpopular, and then dragged into power by transferred votes from fellow Party members who had been doing the job well. I can’t see the benefit.
keep moaning about first pass the post, if you got ENOUGH SUPPORT then you pass, its winning voters over, you got to keep campaigning and now is the time
I agree, If UKIP can win 2 seats (before Cameron announced a referendum) with virtually a media blackout without GB News and TalkTV, then Reform can breakthrough.
So how do you win enough votes? Most voters I speak to have never heard of Reform, yet alone know of their poicies, because Reform do not have big bucks to spend on advertising and tv broadcasts.
@@colinmartin2921 Early days, more money on campaigning to be spent closer to the election. The Brexit Party won a nationally voted on election in just 9 weeks. UKIP took years, but didn't have GB News or TalkTV, neither were the electorate at the time active on social media. If you want to help, get involved, help campaign, donate, stand, whatever. But like academia, policing, the BBC etc, the Tories have been long marched by Marxists, there's no good to come from voting for them.
I just don't trust him, had a unique chance to change the dichotomy of politics in the UK and just gave up insight of victory. Now there are rumours of him being brought back into the Tories....
Well first of all, he wouldn't be able to change anything or even effect change properly without being elected and his own borough was propagandised against him by all other parties. Next is the election system, it doesn't matter how many votes you get across the nation as much as where in the nation you get them. I.e 4 million votes can still only result in 1 MP. Where as 1,000,000 can result in 3-5 depending on which borough and where. He will never rejoin the tories, he was let in to try and galvanise the base who support him utterly but the conservative MPs would find a way to throw him out of their system. He wouldn't last long. But then he doesn't want to be with them either. Your lack of trust is misplaced frankly.
That's a problem for anyone who wants to make change. The two main parties keep an armlock on their respective issues, actually the Tories have been better than Labour at this given how the Lib Dems and Greens take some of the progressive vote, so you can start your own party but with a remote chance of even getting an MP or you can join one of the two main ones and try to influence their direction, either way you're going to struggle.
It's not Farage or the Brexit Party's fault that naïve voters and donors jumped ship to Johnson. How was Farage going to change the dichotomy of politics on 7% which is what they eventually fell to before dropping seats?
@@mikefish8226 No it would not... don't be deluded. Proportional representation would give representation to communists, fascists and national socialists... all of whom are not "right-wing"... plus you can not have Proportional representation and a properly functioning parliamentary government system, like England always had... before new labour that is. You will not get a "truly right-wing party" in government with the ability to actually control legislation and thus have law making power with Proportional representation, you will only get coalitions...and that limits law making power... do you not even remember the lib-con coalition?... no mate, you need one party in government and *only* one, to actually control legislation and thus have law making power... if government is divided, it can't do shit... that's useful if government is repressing us Englishmen,.. not so useful when we are trying to repeal everything new labour did and restore our ancient traditional English constitution... and not just get in to parliament, let alone government.
@@foundationofBritain I wrote one sentence and you managed to misunderstand it. I'm unsure why, having failed to comprehend a single sentence you decided to write all that.
The problem we face is too many low information voters who don’t have a clue that we’re headed for disaster!
Mhm too much reliance on MSM, which is why the OSB (Online Safety Bill) went through parliament and passed without as so much as a hiccup of resistance from the public. Something our illustrious MPs often depend on for their nonsense bills.
@@adventofknowledge yeah I totally agree, it’s what comes next that worries me.
100% 👍
IQs are dropping
You are so correct !!!
I don't think Nigel is wrong Reform will be getting my vote
Really? Reform the ex brexit party? The ones whom are linked to tories that destroyed the economy with lies? Please vote for them I'd love to see a collapsed uk maybe it's time this tyrant country collapsed.
And mine.
Alright I can see why Nigel is widely considered so charasmatic. A structured speaker in gis element
Bring him on the show!
Nigel speaks so fluently and without a script
Farage should be Emperor of the UK and the Lotus Eaters should be his Ministers of All the Things
Great content. I like this together with the podcast.
Best of luck to us, we have a hell of a fight on our hands.
Legend!
Vote Reform for real change!
He should have stood up for his colleagues on GB news
Haven't noticed it before, but Nigel has remarkably good skin.
REFORM ALL THE WAY!!!.
Vote reform
As usual, wise words from Mr Farage
I would love to talk to lotus eaters and Nigel. They come to Manchester and I always miss these events
Nigel for PM
It's a shame he doesn't like Carl.
It was Carl's less well conceived "plan purple" for UKIP a good few years ago now, he's changed a lot since then so Nige needs to let bygones be bygones.
@@Predwyn_the_Swole This was a lot to not like about Carl. He has changed so much for the better since 2015 or so since I started to watch him.
@@Predwyn_the_Swole what about his plan did Nigel dislike?
@@brad5426 It was essentially a popular infiltration of UKIP by young people lead by 3 UA-camrs, Carl, Dankula, and PJW. They wanted to replace the leaders already in place. It was actually needed at the time but it caused a lot of disruption and upset amongst the long-timers.
They were proven right though. As soon as the MSM sunk its teeth into UKIP, the old school committee kicked Farage out. Nigel should recognise that Carl was right, UKIP was doomed.
NIGEL FOR PRIME MINISTER VOTE REFORM UK ONLY TO RULE YOUR LIFE AGAIN
He has lost so much weight!
Proportional Representation from where I am looking only benefits the Party System and not the people. In Ireland it has left us with leaders who were defeated in their own constituencies, as they we’re extremely unpopular, and then dragged into power by transferred votes from fellow Party members who had been doing the job well. I can’t see the benefit.
cant believe it ...
keep moaning about first pass the post, if you got ENOUGH SUPPORT then you pass, its winning voters over, you got to keep campaigning and now is the time
I agree, If UKIP can win 2 seats (before Cameron announced a referendum) with virtually a media blackout without GB News and TalkTV, then Reform can breakthrough.
So how do you win enough votes? Most voters I speak to have never heard of Reform, yet alone know of their poicies, because Reform do not have big bucks to spend on advertising and tv broadcasts.
@@colinmartin2921 Early days, more money on campaigning to be spent closer to the election. The Brexit Party won a nationally voted on election in just 9 weeks.
UKIP took years, but didn't have GB News or TalkTV, neither were the electorate at the time active on social media.
If you want to help, get involved, help campaign, donate, stand, whatever.
But like academia, policing, the BBC etc, the Tories have been long marched by Marxists, there's no good to come from voting for them.
@@ricky7o588 exactly👍
The last European election shows how many people would vote for Brexit/Reform if there was proportional representation
Just imagine Kabiur and Starmer in charge.
It is really starting to look like leaving the UK is an important option.
Something about his voice just sounds oddly satisfying, like listening to someone read a rhythmic poem.
LOTUS (Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious) 😂
I just don't trust him, had a unique chance to change the dichotomy of politics in the UK and just gave up insight of victory.
Now there are rumours of him being brought back into the Tories....
Well first of all, he wouldn't be able to change anything or even effect change properly without being elected and his own borough was propagandised against him by all other parties. Next is the election system, it doesn't matter how many votes you get across the nation as much as where in the nation you get them. I.e 4 million votes can still only result in 1 MP. Where as 1,000,000 can result in 3-5 depending on which borough and where.
He will never rejoin the tories, he was let in to try and galvanise the base who support him utterly but the conservative MPs would find a way to throw him out of their system. He wouldn't last long. But then he doesn't want to be with them either.
Your lack of trust is misplaced frankly.
That's a problem for anyone who wants to make change.
The two main parties keep an armlock on their respective issues, actually the Tories have been better than Labour at this given how the Lib Dems and Greens take some of the progressive vote, so you can start your own party but with a remote chance of even getting an MP or you can join one of the two main ones and try to influence their direction, either way you're going to struggle.
It's not Farage or the Brexit Party's fault that naïve voters and donors jumped ship to Johnson. How was Farage going to change the dichotomy of politics on 7% which is what they eventually fell to before dropping seats?
He announced earlier he is firmly with Reform
Get him off 🤘
As Bart Simpson would say - "eat my shorts"
😂😂😂😂😂
Farage advocating for proportional representation?
Proportional representation would give representation to a truly right-wing party.
Like they use in that European Union which Mr Farage claims is undemocratic.
@@mikefish8226 No it would not... don't be deluded. Proportional representation would give representation to communists, fascists and national socialists... all of whom are not "right-wing"... plus you can not have Proportional representation and a properly functioning parliamentary government system, like England always had... before new labour that is.
You will not get a "truly right-wing party" in government with the ability to actually control legislation and thus have law making power with Proportional representation, you will only get coalitions...and that limits law making power... do you not even remember the lib-con coalition?... no mate, you need one party in government and *only* one, to actually control legislation and thus have law making power... if government is divided, it can't do shit... that's useful if government is repressing us Englishmen,.. not so useful when we are trying to repeal everything new labour did and restore our ancient traditional English constitution... and not just get in to parliament, let alone government.
@@foundationofBritain I wrote one sentence and you managed to misunderstand it. I'm unsure why, having failed to comprehend a single sentence you decided to write all that.
@@mikefish8226 Their second paragraph sums it up, how about look again.
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