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  • The EU's top trade official says Chinese policies are fueling uncertainty among European companies in the country. Valdis Dombrovskis made the comments during a visit to Beijing where he's been holding talks with the country's Vice Premier He Lifeng.
    The visit comes at a time of heightened tension. Earlier this month, the EU launched a probe into Chinese subsidies on electric cars - a move that prompted counter accusations of protectionism from Beijing.
    Another thorny issue concerns the possible implications of Beijing's re-vamped anti-espionage law, which some European companies fear could lead to regular business activities being labeled as espionage.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 612

  • @david-bd6td
    @david-bd6td 8 місяців тому +25

    No difference from US playbook ...
    When can't compete, you create problems for other companies .😅

  • @liuantony638
    @liuantony638 8 місяців тому +35

    Confusious said " no one should do to others what he does not want others to do to himself" two thousands years ago.

    • @GroupHawk
      @GroupHawk 8 місяців тому

      All China does is vow after vow after vow to open more to international trade yet she'll never open up its market. All China does is stealing IP, forcing foreign companies in lose all ventures partnership with their local companies yet export subsidize local products to the world. No to China. Just banned China already

    • @shrekrovsky8626
      @shrekrovsky8626 8 місяців тому +3

      "己所不欲,勿施于人"

    • @kunsui6823
      @kunsui6823 8 місяців тому

      欧洲没有正经的历史,有文字记载的官方历史仅仅上溯到几百年前的中世纪,至于美国,他们根本没有什么历史可言。

  • @hendrang1
    @hendrang1 8 місяців тому +202

    When Western countries in dominating trade because of their superiority in technology and manufacturing, they continued to encourage competition and anti-protectionism, but when the situation turned around they begin to make every effort to protect and no longer want competition.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 8 місяців тому +68

      When they are competitive, they push for rule-based free trade.
      When they become less competitive, they change the rules written by themselves and blames others for unfair competition.
      So, they are always right. Is this fair and justice ? Truly shameful!

    • @rufanuf1
      @rufanuf1 8 місяців тому

      @@happymelon7129 No its just human nature sadly. The Chinese were bleating for a hundred years about the worlds injustices, and still are in many regards, but they are definitely the bigger cheats. For the west its now a rigged game. How can any civilised society compete with a billion strong slave army?

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil 8 місяців тому +20

      Beautifu, two wumaos confirming each other.

    • @user-hg2ey9bk6m
      @user-hg2ey9bk6m 8 місяців тому +27

      @@JigilJigil you are meifen US cents

    • @andia968
      @andia968 8 місяців тому +14

      @@JigilJigil meifen detected

  • @whatyousaid1375
    @whatyousaid1375 8 місяців тому +152

    Eu: we cannot let china enter & invest in Europe. We are de-risking for security concerns. However, china should open more if its market for Europe

    • @icet6665
      @icet6665 8 місяців тому

      THE IRONY OF IT AND THE HYPOCRISY OF THE EUROPEANS

    • @HafiZzZzZz
      @HafiZzZzZz 8 місяців тому +5

      👍👍👍

    • @marktrinidad7650
      @marktrinidad7650 8 місяців тому +28

      speaking like a true colonist. Glad Europeans never forget their real values.

    • @rufanuf1
      @rufanuf1 8 місяців тому

      How hypocritical. The only reason China has an economy at all is thanks to the West. They should've never let them with their slave workforce join the civilized world.

    • @timloo6191
      @timloo6191 8 місяців тому

      Don't worry. China will roll over like puppy......hahahahahahaha

  • @sixtogonzaga655
    @sixtogonzaga655 8 місяців тому +14

    EU is more protectionist for sure. Im a international trader and dealing with the EU is harder than China. Its faster and more lax to deal with chinese companies that EU ones as there are tons of rules in EU and very protectionist. Its really unfair tbh

  • @zhewu9052
    @zhewu9052 8 місяців тому +5

    but the price of EV in China is much lower than that in EU. It's not dumping.

  • @dannyarcher6370
    @dannyarcher6370 8 місяців тому +4

    "Who is more protectionist?"
    Who is the producer of this show?

  • @sittingduck02
    @sittingduck02 8 місяців тому +50

    Does EU know how easy China can squeeze the likes of VW, MB & BMW in China?

    • @dancahill9585
      @dancahill9585 8 місяців тому +1

      Great. China can have the China market, and the west can kick the Chinese out of the western markets. Sounds like a good plan to me.

    • @yungunit8299
      @yungunit8299 8 місяців тому +8

      they know. thats why they need to move with caution 😂

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 8 місяців тому +2

      The thing is the EU and its comission and the members states represented are held captive by such private capital interests that hold economies hostage.

    • @marcioborgesreis9066
      @marcioborgesreis9066 8 місяців тому +2

      In China? 😂😂😂 China is China , obviously they can do wathever they want in their country.

    • @michael-muller
      @michael-muller 8 місяців тому +4

      Considering that China is Germany's largest growing car market, a conflict with them will lead to European car manufacturers fighting each other over consumers in an oversaturated market.

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 8 місяців тому +7

    The next day after Annalena Baerbock badmouth Xi.
    German auto stocks fall across the board
    Porsche -2.59%
    Audi -2.15%
    VOLKSWAGEN -2.15%
    Mercedes -1.15%
    BMW -0.75%
    😅 Chinese EV car companies are happy to have more local business.
    Thank you ! Annalena Baerbock !

  • @ronron7143
    @ronron7143 8 місяців тому +2

    Germany are not satisfied by simply chop one of their pillar of industrial prowess that is cheap energy from russia. But they also want to chop the other pillar that is chinese market. It results in exodus of industry either to usa or to china. This is brexit level kind of idiocy. I need more popcorn for this

  • @jeffperteet2327
    @jeffperteet2327 8 місяців тому +8

    China will never provide a fair market, may as well move on

    • @togifashion8737
      @togifashion8737 8 місяців тому +1

      Germany sell 6 million autos in China every year. It's unfair for domestic sellers. I encourage Chinese government to do same thing that european do to foreign brands.

    • @user-bu4vq5nw3p
      @user-bu4vq5nw3p 8 місяців тому

      As a chinese,I can see nearly all the european brands here in China。VW BMW MB Porsche RR Bentley Peugeot Citroen LandRover Jaguar Fiat Lamborghini Ferrari Bosch Continental Michelin Shell BASF Unilever Adidas Gucci CHANEL Rolex and so on。so,how many Chinese brands you can see in Europe?

    • @jeffperteet2327
      @jeffperteet2327 8 місяців тому

      @@user-bu4vq5nw3p enjoy your social credit awards sir!

  • @jiaao86
    @jiaao86 8 місяців тому +38

    Europeans, two questions for you, 1. How did America get rich? Who was the biggest beneficiary of World War II? Where did American industry, technology and talent come from? 2. If there is a trade war between China and Europe, who will be the biggest beneficiary?

    • @rufanuf1
      @rufanuf1 8 місяців тому

      Yes your right. The west have been fools, they should never of supported China joining in the civilized world

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil 8 місяців тому +9

      Ok wumao, you did good.

    • @andia968
      @andia968 8 місяців тому +11

      @@JigilJigil meifen detected

    • @LYLLYYLY
      @LYLLYYLY 8 місяців тому

      I've always wondered if Europeans really can't see who reaps the benefits of their hard work.

    • @IamHandsome4u
      @IamHandsome4u 8 місяців тому +8

      @@JigilJigil this JigilJigil bot is everywhere on china related video, how much did u get paid by CIA?

  • @leoliu5017
    @leoliu5017 8 місяців тому +2

    China EV is saling at more than double the price in EU? You called that subsidary?

    • @user-bu4vq5nw3p
      @user-bu4vq5nw3p 8 місяців тому

      for example,vw id3 price
      China:€15000
      Germany:€39900
      so,vw=Chinese brand

  • @MMA-gb6to
    @MMA-gb6to 8 місяців тому +7

    when you are losing and panicking ...
    LOL

  • @FryanHere
    @FryanHere 8 місяців тому +2

    I wanna see Europe actually decoupling from china and Russia 😂😂😂. Chinese market is huge, imagine if chinese stop buying german cars and branded accessories.

  • @TheKkpop1
    @TheKkpop1 8 місяців тому +2

    It's a waste of time to negotiate with the EU which can not make agreement amongst themselves.

  • @user-yt7dq2kl2t
    @user-yt7dq2kl2t Місяць тому +1

    Name something Europe sell and China bans. And name something China sells and Europe bans.

  • @weeroger7048
    @weeroger7048 8 місяців тому +1

    Nevermind cars or gucci handbags we should be selling them food

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 8 місяців тому +58

    When they are competitive, they push for rule-based free trade.
    When they become less competitive, they change the rules written by themselves and blames others for unfair competition.
    So, they are always right. Is this fair and justice ? Truly shameful!

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil 8 місяців тому +4

      Again we have the most active wumao here, man Xitler is so proud of you.

    • @chenghonggoh4746
      @chenghonggoh4746 8 місяців тому +1

      Competitive? All competitive firms in China have slowly become state-owned in China.

    • @user-zp6dz9jw3g
      @user-zp6dz9jw3g 8 місяців тому +2

      @@chenghonggoh4746有错吗?😢你喜欢贵的东西可以选择欧盟的产品😂

    • @tianlezheng6829
      @tianlezheng6829 8 місяців тому

      ​@@user-zp6dz9jw3g欧盟搞不公平贸易😅

    • @user-zp6dz9jw3g
      @user-zp6dz9jw3g 8 місяців тому

      @@JigilJigil哇哦……我看到西方虚伪的网络上帝在骂一个基于公平竞争的理论者。😂😂😂😂你失去行动力了吗?回家让医生给你配备轮椅吧……再去政府注册成为残疾人,这样把竞争的职位让给有能力的人。

  • @lukadundur8341
    @lukadundur8341 8 місяців тому +2

    negotiations be like
    EU: I want new trade deal
    CHINA: okay come to me in 2 years
    EU: Okay 2 years passed how about that new trade deal
    CHINA : What trade deal ?
    EU: Okay than I will put tariffs.
    CHINA: So You want trade war?

  • @lvjinbin28
    @lvjinbin28 8 місяців тому +2

    EU lost confidence about Free Trade, Market Economy.

    • @user-ob6kw2ct1p
      @user-ob6kw2ct1p 7 місяців тому

      Free trade? This is simply a lie between European and American woven bags. Now China wants them to stop

  • @kenyup7936
    @kenyup7936 8 місяців тому +1

    From China, I got it, our country is a protectionist for real, apparently

  • @user-hg2ey9bk6m
    @user-hg2ey9bk6m 8 місяців тому +1

    Out of all the comments, mine vanished. It was: Smart Moulin Rouge and Billy the cowboy are SETTING GERMAN UP!

  • @JohnSmith-xc3zu
    @JohnSmith-xc3zu 8 місяців тому +1

    Rough translation: We, the EU, don’t got money to subsidize our car makers, so China should not either. What? US does it too? Well, there is nothing we can do about that!

  • @comrade9374
    @comrade9374 8 місяців тому +9

    AMERICA won't allow the EU to talk to China 😂

    • @mrD66M
      @mrD66M 8 місяців тому

      It will but there will be a cost. A BIG one.
      If EU is not prepared to face the costs then it shouldn’t deal with US adversaries (Muscovy, China).

    • @aslampervez2294
      @aslampervez2294 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@mrD66MGermany can't deny their masters

  • @user-ny3gw3iq7x
    @user-ny3gw3iq7x 8 місяців тому +5

    It's strange that the value of cars exported by Europe to China is much higher than the value of China's exports to Europe. Why is Europe instead beginning to protect trade?

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk 8 місяців тому

      >> It's strange that the value of cars exported by Europe to China is much higher than the value of China's exports to Europe > Why is Europe instead beginning to protect trade?

  • @ramjo1
    @ramjo1 8 місяців тому +33

    EU: mad that chinese government should not intervene or help chinese EV makers.
    VW Group (being owned by qatar state and lower Saxony ): 😇

    • @protagonist9716
      @protagonist9716 8 місяців тому

      EU are hypocritical

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 8 місяців тому +1

      Not the Porsche family? 🤔👀

    • @marcioborgesreis9066
      @marcioborgesreis9066 8 місяців тому +1

      China can help their EV makers, what they can not do is trying to sell them in Europe , because of EU laws wich dont allow goverment help to car nanufactories .

    • @jeffxu6871
      @jeffxu6871 8 місяців тому

      20% held by Niedersachsen state@@toyotaprius79

    • @babahanuman83
      @babahanuman83 8 місяців тому

      eu gives billions to their carmanufacturers. the chinese electric vehicles are so advanced that the eu carmanufacturers get terrified, they know that they have lost the race and try now false games to prevent their unpreventable losing against china.@@marcioborgesreis9066

  • @pistolen87
    @pistolen87 8 місяців тому

    Mercantilism vs. globalism? That is the question. Both have benefits and drawbacks. How do we strike the right balance?

  • @Jen-xg3iq
    @Jen-xg3iq 8 місяців тому +26

    When you cannot compete... LOL

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 8 місяців тому +2

      *When you and your competitors compete who makes the most profit for over a decade, dismissing electrification, dismissing downsizing, right to Repair, creating inflation with expensive cars and Crossovers, increasing prices because inflation reduces the value of profits to ensure investors must be paid their return and executives getting performance bonuses.

    • @nutzeeer
      @nutzeeer 8 місяців тому

      @@toyotaprius79exactly this. a home grown problem.

    • @marcioborgesreis9066
      @marcioborgesreis9066 8 місяців тому +1

      When you can not compete you give money to your companies .

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil 8 місяців тому +1

      When you cannot compete subsidize every single industry.

  • @whiskeybluez
    @whiskeybluez 8 місяців тому

    These Brussels bureaucrats have suffocated innovation in Europe and now they respond to competitive challenges with trade barriers.

  • @qqqqyes999
    @qqqqyes999 8 місяців тому

    both are.

  • @mabra-tico
    @mabra-tico 8 місяців тому

    jika menulis pernyataan setengah benar, artinya kebenaran itu tidak berdiri diatas landasan!...namun kebenaran itu hanya unruk diseret kedalam keuntungan jalan kebiadapan terbaru!!

  • @Pietrofs75
    @Pietrofs75 8 місяців тому +34

    You have chips through dialogue, otherwise you will just be someone else's chess piece on the card table.
    European countries are not united. but if Europe only follows US but cannot negotiate independently, the gap between the EU and the United States will only grow larger.

    • @marcioborgesreis9066
      @marcioborgesreis9066 8 місяців тому +1

      Cool story bro 😊

    • @barryraymond9004
      @barryraymond9004 8 місяців тому

      Europe should negotiate with the USA then not China. China is allied with Russia which threatens Europe.

    • @timloo6191
      @timloo6191 8 місяців тому

      Eu can always be Russia or usa or china slave. Pick one

    • @citizenBR100
      @citizenBR100 8 місяців тому

      You must work for the chinese government...
      Trying to fool Europe into financing the chinese comunist regime which will have no mercy for Europe
      If it weren't for the US today the whole of Europw would be speaking German or Russian.
      The US guaranteed the freedom of europe and continues to do so.
      China and Russia want to rule Europe

    • @sixiaoqi1685
      @sixiaoqi1685 8 місяців тому

      ​@@stevenstrain283bro, Broaden your horizons, 140 million people live in China, who care about what you said. Do not be brainwashed by west media😅😅

  • @pkwong1940
    @pkwong1940 8 місяців тому +10

    China must never depart from their socialist policy. There is no reason why Germany should not subsidise its own industries instead of blaming China. China can de-risk better than any other country.

    • @tonnny7908
      @tonnny7908 8 місяців тому

      China too banned LG and other Korean battery companies from entering the market while poaching engineers from those companies. Don't be naive. It is people like you that dooms EU.

  • @vectorfox4782
    @vectorfox4782 8 місяців тому +5

    Seems like DW is having an existential crisis. It doesn’t know whether if it’s a part of EU anymore.

    • @user-zp6dz9jw3g
      @user-zp6dz9jw3g 8 місяців тому

      德国和欧盟有些官员甚至不是德国人……很可笑,让一个非德国或欧盟人为欧盟国家争取利益😂😂😂难道他们是上帝化身吗?

  • @mabra-tico
    @mabra-tico 8 місяців тому

    itu sebabnya mengapa kedepannya demokrasi itu tidak di ijinkan lagi, untuk dimiliki subjek secara tunggal!!

  • @dougpage2730
    @dougpage2730 8 місяців тому +12

    The Chinese EV industry gets MASSIVE subsidies from the CCP. This is ignored by the WTO, as is The CCP dumping of manufacturing products in general. They subsidize until their competitors go out of business, then they raise prices.

    • @paulskiye6930
      @paulskiye6930 8 місяців тому +2

      Maybe couple years ago. Not any more.
      Get your facts straight

    • @xiaozheng-jq5wm
      @xiaozheng-jq5wm 8 місяців тому +3

      Check that Tesla receives subsidies in China, but the EU dare not😂

  • @boonseow8338
    @boonseow8338 8 місяців тому

    Why countries with stars flag can't work together, sooner or later will be vanished by the lunar flag nations.

  • @liewkinglim
    @liewkinglim 8 місяців тому +1

    Let’s de couple.. let’s de risking from each other. Do it ! EU

  • @louistan7560
    @louistan7560 8 місяців тому

    They can find certainty investing in China. There is no choice.

  • @spencer7404
    @spencer7404 8 місяців тому +1

    Hypocrites.

  • @gilthorn3430
    @gilthorn3430 8 місяців тому

    EU is now crying after their attitude to the US on the trade dispute. Lol

  • @TheAb9211
    @TheAb9211 8 місяців тому +8

    Interesting report. The two points mentioned - Labor Shortage and energy demand are big problems for most of EU. The energy problems are created by EU themselves. Germany had shutdown its nuclear power plants and started to rely on Russian gas, now they are paying the price. Nuclear power is clean and yes, it is safe as long as skilled workers operate them. Its crazy to see Germany rely on other sources when it can easily just be self-reliant for its energy needs.

    • @musiconabudget3712
      @musiconabudget3712 8 місяців тому

      Nuclear is so clean its radioactive lol

    • @royk7712
      @royk7712 8 місяців тому

      @@musiconabudget3712 uneducated fool

  • @dennislam8065
    @dennislam8065 8 місяців тому

    Just put a luxury tax on all french , italy produce branded fashion goods , overprice and useless stuff .

  • @SW-lw6mt
    @SW-lw6mt 8 місяців тому +20

    Over reliance on any single country is never a good idea, spreading risk and retaining a competent workforce and industry is something all countries need to do. Globalisation has it's limits and not everything should be off-shored.

    • @IamHandsome4u
      @IamHandsome4u 8 місяців тому +10

      I seriously dont know wt problem EU has with china. LOL, EU and US act like they are the centre of the universe.

    • @lucisleesion8824
      @lucisleesion8824 8 місяців тому +8

      You did not say this about 20-15 yrs ago, to China😂😂

    • @The_Revolutionist
      @The_Revolutionist 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@lucisleesion8824
      So what ?!

    • @kennyjong0303
      @kennyjong0303 8 місяців тому

      It wasn't over reliance on china. It was due to winning of european companies in china market and china was the only develooing major economy for the pass decades.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 8 місяців тому

      U$A very successful in contrxl EU , and keep EU less competitive.
      24-9-2023 EU official: After reducing purchases of Russian natural gas, EU will rely on expensive U$ LNG for decades to come

  • @xiwang9560
    @xiwang9560 8 місяців тому +1

    Europeans cannot believe that China could manufacture EV cars in such a low cost, because not even Europeans could do it. So they are convinced that China must heavily subsidies its EV cars, because Europeans know that they had done it when they were trying to destroy certian countries by dumping their products.

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk 8 місяців тому

      >> Europeans cannot believe that China could manufacture EV cars in such a low cost, ...> So they are convinced that China must heavily subsidies its EV cars,

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 8 місяців тому

      ​@@tooltalk" illegally subsidising " how is subsidising illegal ?
      " Battery tech " so u agree that china can create battery tech while eu can't . Lovely.
      " lol u seriously beehive that china beloved in conpetition fairness and free trade " is not a question of belief since china didn't sanction nations unlike certain someone. So u lost there.
      " china has illegally subsidised " thats not illegal firstly.
      " US/EU kinda turned bind eye to china low value , low tech"
      Then why is EU US leading behind china of is low tech ? Sounds like u are jealous.

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk 8 місяців тому

      @@jacksmith-mu3ee >> " illegally subsidising " how is subsidising illegal ?

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 8 місяців тому +1

      @@tooltalk " i already cited a WTO complaint WT/DS549 numerous times. Not interested in engaging wumao who didn't read it"
      Same WTO alresdy rolled against usa and eu for illegal sanctions against chinese companies and illegal tariffs .
      Also wumao = i WU ur MA in her 0 . Try again cia bot .

  • @user-nv7mc8mr2k
    @user-nv7mc8mr2k 8 місяців тому +4

    CCP boats triggered in the comment section 😂

    • @ftu2021
      @ftu2021 8 місяців тому +1

      Arrrgggg I am so MAD! I am typing in CAPITAL! Know my wrath!

    • @ruzicas.5819
      @ruzicas.5819 8 місяців тому

      Yes. They adore DW.

  • @davidperin9938
    @davidperin9938 8 місяців тому +5

    Communist party of China: acts like communists
    EU: Pikachu faces.
    Like what did y'all expect.

    • @michaelh1769
      @michaelh1769 8 місяців тому +2

      except u.s.and eu are both subsidizing their ev industry right now.... pika pi?!?!?

    • @donkalzone6671
      @donkalzone6671 8 місяців тому +1

      US and EU act no differently than communist China...
      US and EU: "Thats different, thats freeeee market CApitAlissssm!!!

    • @The_Revolutionist
      @The_Revolutionist 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@donkalzone6671
      U have no idea what u're talking about.

    • @The_Revolutionist
      @The_Revolutionist 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@michaelh1769
      So what ?

  • @XDraxis
    @XDraxis 8 місяців тому

    why is she sitting so weirdly?

  • @NorCalMoDo
    @NorCalMoDo 8 місяців тому +2

    IF the EU wants to be trade-protection, it is EU's own business, and just go ahead. Do not accuse others of subsidies or protectionistic...

  • @eaglepark8188
    @eaglepark8188 8 місяців тому

    Eu takes care of its own inflation. Make your own decision.

  • @nmew6926
    @nmew6926 8 місяців тому +1

    Tell India to buy all the BMW and Mercedes

  • @michael-muller
    @michael-muller 8 місяців тому +7

    This is the END free global market 😢

    • @jameskamotho7513
      @jameskamotho7513 8 місяців тому

      You're being dramatic. You see yourself never taking tea or coffee ever again...

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 8 місяців тому

      Free global market money laundering is what's causing global destabilisation and climate collapse.

    • @olafsigursons
      @olafsigursons 8 місяців тому

      Not a bad thing. Our people were better off before globalization.

    • @michael-muller
      @michael-muller 8 місяців тому

      @@olafsigursons You are probably from the generation of rainbow ponies, I remember well what it’s like to live in a divided world, where blocs are constantly at war for spheres of influence.
      we will all become isolated

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil 8 місяців тому +1

      Not really, US and Europe and their allies will trade with each other based on the global free market rules, but China won't be part of it anymore.

  • @pumalee1997
    @pumalee1997 8 місяців тому +2

    The EU is running out of leverage at the negotiating table.

    • @user-zp6dz9jw3g
      @user-zp6dz9jw3g 8 місяців тому

      北气管道被炸毁,欧盟工业被阉割,没有了能源作为基础,大家回原始森林烤火打猎为生吧……

  • @tengchuankhoo6585
    @tengchuankhoo6585 8 місяців тому

    Attack is the best defence some say but in this case, EU has been over using this card for far too long. Europe should learn the difference others tolerating your rubbish and your self claim of being exceptional

  • @markus.schiefer
    @markus.schiefer 8 місяців тому +9

    Every country tries to get the most benefits out of any trade relation.
    The better question is "Who steals more intellectual property?"
    And that question is easily answered.

    • @MMA-gb6to
      @MMA-gb6to 8 місяців тому

      what a smarty pants!!!!!
      the new WTO dispute settlement process:
      Step 1. IP investigation
      Step 2. Tell them: "3rd world country, you don't have any IP, so we do NOT allow you to trade"
      i bet it would save a lot of money and time, LOL

    • @babahanuman83
      @babahanuman83 8 місяців тому +12

      dont be ridiculous. these times are gone. china is way ahead in many fields. go there yourself and see.

    • @rosshilton
      @rosshilton 8 місяців тому +9

      China now leads the world in EV technology.....

    • @cinpeace353
      @cinpeace353 8 місяців тому +1

      Lol, you may got the wrong answer. Exchange IP through business deal is not steal.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 8 місяців тому +1

      You forgot, in the old days, Germany copy England products, and even label them "Made in England"

  • @kongwee1978
    @kongwee1978 8 місяців тому +1

    BYD selling higher in EU than Tesla, of course China protectionism.

  • @jamesminor1945
    @jamesminor1945 8 місяців тому +1

    The EU. Not even a question!

  • @j.c.4192
    @j.c.4192 8 місяців тому +1

    EU just got way poorer. Electricity doubled, how competitive would you be.
    The 4th industrial revolution is based on cheap energy.

  • @cfwin1776
    @cfwin1776 8 місяців тому +1

    The EU is a sore lose.

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk 8 місяців тому

      too bad China can't win.

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@tooltalk" too bad china can't win" except china did win
      That's why u are crying this much

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk 8 місяців тому

      @@jacksmith-mu3ee : >> That's why u are crying this much

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 8 місяців тому

      @@tooltalk " nobody is crying but china" said the bot whining about china

    • @tooltalk
      @tooltalk 8 місяців тому

      @@jacksmith-mu3ee : says a wumao crying baby. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-du4bk3jk8u
    @user-du4bk3jk8u 8 місяців тому +4

    欧盟领导人冯德莱恩,更像是在为美国的利益在服务,而不是为欧盟

    • @rollingdownfalling
      @rollingdownfalling 8 місяців тому

      Macron wants the EU to be a balancing force between the US and China according to Time.

  • @geraldkohar
    @geraldkohar 8 місяців тому +4

    There is no benefit for China to subsidize car to Europe. Besides Chinese manufacturers sell their car more expensive in Europe than at home. Reasons? Profit! Europeans in general have more buying power anyway since their standard of living is also way higher than in China. If they still manage to price their car lower than the European cars it simply means either the cost production for European cars are too high or they take too much profit, to the point they lose their competitiveness.

  • @eaglepark8188
    @eaglepark8188 8 місяців тому +2

    Free trade! Utility maximize!

  • @IamHandsome4u
    @IamHandsome4u 8 місяців тому +12

    With all the US and EU trying their best to contain china's growth, china hv still managed to be 2nd biggest economy, if they had not been ganging up against china, they could hv been at first.

    • @mrplease66
      @mrplease66 8 місяців тому +8

      it's the other way around: China became the world's 2nd biggest economy BECAUSE of foreign investment and tech transfer. We wanted a rich China because we thought a rich China will become like us - a liberal democracy. Unfortunately we didn't make our calculations with the CCP 🤣

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil 8 місяців тому

      They are not even trying yet, if they decouple their economies from China, China will be back to the Mao's era of poverty and misery again.

    • @siyingli8454
      @siyingli8454 8 місяців тому

      @@mrplease66 Dont forget China is also a huge market for western brands. You really think west is helping china for the sake of democracy not the huge profit from making cheap in China to sell to chinese consumers. LOL. This sounds colonism.

    • @AB-fi5jt
      @AB-fi5jt 8 місяців тому

      You want to use Chinese resources to make you rich, but china ended up surpass you with a better system. Your liberal democracy lost to Chinese style socialism.😂😂😂

    • @IamHandsome4u
      @IamHandsome4u 8 місяців тому +4

      @@mrplease66 And u shouldnt be talkin abt democracy when US/EU foundation is based upon monarchy or authoratarian form of govt.

  • @JigilJigil
    @JigilJigil 8 місяців тому +3

    Talking with China is fruitless, China is an authoritarian regime, if any agreements come out of these talks, eventually the Chinese will find a way to circumvent them, it's time for EU to end its appseament approach toward China, it's time to speak to the Chinese with their own language, Europeans hesitation will just make Europe the sole loser.

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 8 місяців тому +2

    U$A very successful in contrxl EU , and keep EU less competitive.
    24-9-2023 EU official: After reducing purchases of Russian natural gas, EU will rely on expensive U$ LNG for decades to come

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 8 місяців тому +1

      On September 24, European Commission Energy Director General Ditte Juul Jorgensen was quoted as saying that after reducing its purchases of Russian natural gas, the EU will rely on expensive U$ LNG to meet demand for decades.
      In an interview, Jorgensen said that as the Russia-Ukraine war continues, the EU will use all methods to survive the next winter energy crisis. She admitted that it will take decades for Europe to It will take time for natural gas to be phased out, and in the meantime, natural gas will be purchased primarily from the United States.
      "We (the EU) are going to need some fossil fuels in the coming decades...in this case, American fuels," she said.
      Reports indicate that measures the EU will take include expanding the proportion of renewable energy.

  • @Erik-rp1hi
    @Erik-rp1hi 8 місяців тому +1

    Tell china they have to make the cars in the EU.

    • @icet6665
      @icet6665 8 місяців тому +2

      HUNGARY GOT THE JOB

  • @mabra-tico
    @mabra-tico 8 місяців тому

    pergilah, cuci tangan dan kaki!...lalu pergilah tidur disudut sana, dan jangan lupa pakailah atau rampaslah selimut bayi yang tebal itu!!....
    Mungkin dengan lari untuk berlindung serta bermeditasi dipegunungan Tibet, dapat mengurangi siksaan sebelum musnah!!

  • @ycplum7062
    @ycplum7062 8 місяців тому +6

    Europeans are protectionist. They are more or less open about it, but coach everything in pretty words. China is atraight out protectionist AND secretive about. Europe should not let China bully them around. It encourages more bullying. Germany is in a fragile state, but so is China.

  • @akattau
    @akattau 8 місяців тому

    It is natural move when anyone faces a real competitor.
    Economic globalism only exists when the market is monopolized.

  • @user-yb7ny6pk2j
    @user-yb7ny6pk2j 8 місяців тому

    미국인들은 좋아하겠네

  • @cinpeace353
    @cinpeace353 8 місяців тому +19

    Who is afraid of other countries growth? Who is concern about other countries having more friends that they don't have a control of? Who is taking about decoupling/de-risking? 😅😅

    • @mrplease66
      @mrplease66 8 місяців тому

      Friends? China has no friends

    • @Jason-io9zg
      @Jason-io9zg 8 місяців тому

      @@mrplease66 which country holds 78+1 summit?

    • @rufanuf1
      @rufanuf1 8 місяців тому +2

      Which country is a communist state🤣

    • @mrplease66
      @mrplease66 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Jason-io9zg You can hold all the summits you like! Name me one country that would consider China an ally, apart from the DPRK

    • @timloo6191
      @timloo6191 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@rufanuf1 does communist steal your betel nuts?

  • @dxd42
    @dxd42 8 місяців тому +11

    Surely the EU is very protectionist ... they don't say it but create a rule only an EU country are prepared to follow, in other words, protectionist 😂

  • @RichardBrett899
    @RichardBrett899 8 місяців тому

    Germany is in deep recession that will take a long time to get out of especially it has no cheap Russian oil supply because the Nord Stream 2 pipelines had been blown up.

  • @dennisestradda9746
    @dennisestradda9746 8 місяців тому +14

    Ditch the commies

    • @tfhmobil
      @tfhmobil 8 місяців тому +5

      EU companies, better redraw from the commy countries, while they can.
      We have already seen what happens, and far worse is to come, as the economy worsens in commy lands.
      Foreign investors will be the first to pay…..

    • @tedwong7037
      @tedwong7037 8 місяців тому

      China is pushing aisa century, might as well cut loose with the EU and North america. Stay away from the white bullies

    • @randomguy7175
      @randomguy7175 8 місяців тому +1

      Become slaves of US..
      History will read how an important continent like EU choose to be slave of US rather then an independent power.
      If US asks EU to lick boots , the EU will do lick proudly.

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 8 місяців тому

      LOL You wish; I guarantee you Europe will only get weaker and weaker no matter what they do ahahahhahahahahha!!!

    • @icet6665
      @icet6665 8 місяців тому

      HAHAA SO SAYS THE PHILIPINO

  • @user-hg2ey9bk6m
    @user-hg2ey9bk6m 8 місяців тому

    Western Freedom means Christianity first.

  • @user-vp6vf8wm2s
    @user-vp6vf8wm2s 8 місяців тому +1

    De-risking? With China
    Just wait for China to copy that, and the consequent?

  • @kioly_ah
    @kioly_ah 8 місяців тому +31

    without US's permission. EU wont have chance to have talk with china.
    it is true in a narrow sense that, for Western taxpayers,
    the war in Ukraine is a remarkably cost-effective way to degrade Russia’s military capabilities without risking a single life.
    apperenly, US made good progress on that.
    Yankees squeezed EU profitably, cheap energy and manufacturing capability during the war.
    EU basically want europoor spend more and stay poor...

    • @jonaseggen2230
      @jonaseggen2230 8 місяців тому +8

      Ok Cinebot

    • @kioly_ah
      @kioly_ah 8 місяців тому +8

      ​ @jonaseggen2230
      well, I living in sweden for 6yrs,
      5 apartments rent out in shanghai to pay my life spending here.
      your angry is because you can't fix...
      Inflation, energy costs, and electrical fees will keep squeezing your blood.
      you should hard work, Eurpoor. cancel your summer vacation and coffee break from tomorrow. you are not efficiency and lazy.

    • @jonaseggen2230
      @jonaseggen2230 8 місяців тому

      @@kioly_ah Your english is terrible. Probably why you can't read and thus are very very badly informed. As you lived in Sweden for so long you are obviously a well paid spy.

    • @user-hg2ey9bk6m
      @user-hg2ey9bk6m 8 місяців тому +5

      @@jonaseggen2230 you are way bitterer than him

    • @metalvideos1961
      @metalvideos1961 8 місяців тому

      @@jonaseggen2230brainwashed bot

  • @victorye7150
    @victorye7150 8 місяців тому +25

    China has won the trade war with the US and become stronger than ever. What makes EU think that they can change the cause?😂

    • @russellfloyd2732
      @russellfloyd2732 8 місяців тому +1

      You must be kidding me. If china won the trade war Against us than why xi always complaining about chip ban?

    • @inte4573
      @inte4573 8 місяців тому +1

      China has not won the trade war with the US

    • @simontyrrell8866
      @simontyrrell8866 8 місяців тому +1

      You are delusional,China has not won any trade war with the US and indeed its economy is going down the pan due to the utter incompetence of its dictators

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 8 місяців тому

      Only by decoupling reliance on the US (and its NATO) and act like they give a damn about cooperation to end market caused famine and poverty, act on decarbonisation, nature restoration and non-predatory investment.

    • @olafsigursons
      @olafsigursons 8 місяців тому +1

      LOL! China 🤡economy is collapsing, but OK.

  • @amunra5330
    @amunra5330 8 місяців тому +4

    Germany cant compete hahahahahahahahahaha

  • @Xcelcior6780
    @Xcelcior6780 8 місяців тому +7

    Nice Work China😂👍

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 8 місяців тому

      You ain't seen nothing yet LOL

  • @jeffxu6871
    @jeffxu6871 8 місяців тому +1

    EU show exactly double standard.....

  • @City-of-Hong-Kong
    @City-of-Hong-Kong 8 місяців тому +42

    Faced with challenges posed by rising US protectionism that is weighing on the world's economic recovery, China and the EU should forge stronger ties and deepen cooperation on the basis of win-win instead of setting up hurdles against each other. 👍

    • @tropicaltrev1617
      @tropicaltrev1617 8 місяців тому

      I don’t think so, China is now our enemy and simply cannot be trusted. 😊

    • @baantawai
      @baantawai 8 місяців тому +17

      Here comes the Wumaos!

    • @manishgrg639
      @manishgrg639 8 місяців тому

      sadly eu is murica's puppet

    • @thomaslorfils9613
      @thomaslorfils9613 8 місяців тому +17

      Here come the Chinese Bots😂

    • @zhoma982
      @zhoma982 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@baantawaiPoor Indian

  • @vlognow3012
    @vlognow3012 8 місяців тому +1

    It is Huge threat to Germany Cars industry

    • @randomguy7175
      @randomguy7175 8 місяців тому +10

      German car industry died when Nordstream pipeline was blown up..

    • @aslampervez2294
      @aslampervez2294 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@randomguy7175also chemical industry

  • @zhengpinghu
    @zhengpinghu 8 місяців тому +2

    It is called Loser Mentality!

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 8 місяців тому +2

    History going to repeat..
    😂 During the 70's 80's ..
    U$A to EU : We should not invest in China , bad system , need to punish .
    EU : OK , agree
    But after that, it is the U$A companies rush into China to make tons of profit , EU so dxmb.🤣

    • @covertpuppytwo3857
      @covertpuppytwo3857 8 місяців тому +2

      You might want to actually learn history before you spew ignorance about it.

    • @ruzicas.5819
      @ruzicas.5819 8 місяців тому +1

      He just copy and paste this in this topic at least 1o times. Chinese bot

  • @user-kt7uz9xc5m
    @user-kt7uz9xc5m 8 місяців тому +2

    there is nothing "west" can sell to china except troyan horses of media, speculation platforms and banking😂

  • @kunsui6823
    @kunsui6823 8 місяців тому

    As the most developed regional bodies in the world, the United States and Europe are always worried about their own security and threats, and the cheapskates are shameful.

  • @BrandyHeng007
    @BrandyHeng007 8 місяців тому +1

    Losers are protectionist, fear level playing field competitions - Straight-A Cowards 😅

  • @user-pe8ez8mg3w
    @user-pe8ez8mg3w 8 місяців тому

    Nah, more like PROJECTIONISTS! 😂

  • @mabra-tico
    @mabra-tico 8 місяців тому

    Sekitar 2,5 tahun yang lalu, praktik genosida terhadap Rakyat Uighur telah disampaikan!!...melalui tulisan yang tersampaikan didalam konten media VOA biadap itu!!

  • @nedas18
    @nedas18 8 місяців тому +1

    US companies already moving away from China and they are not dumb 👌China has very nice surplus of trade with EU for decades, what would happen if this switched around ? Those trade rules are dumb, China Russia same thing, but we sanctioning one and hoping it will work 🤭ONE EXAMPLE-THERE IS CHINESE FACTORY IN RUSSIAN CITY BARNAUL, THEY PRODUCE MATTRESSES FOR EUROPEAN UNION, what a mess 🙈

    • @Pietrofs75
      @Pietrofs75 8 місяців тому +1

      I hope you can use your brain to spread rumors. Producing mattresses for Europe in Russia? !
      => What period of history are you talking about? Or have you just come out of the coffin?
      Remind Today is 2023.9.25

    • @novainvicta
      @novainvicta 8 місяців тому

      US companies were dumb they off-shored manufacturing to China to make a quick buck. Now China has copied & improved American technology and is more advanced in manufacturing electronics. The same is true with Europe and a lessor degree with Japan.

  • @aaronsutton9924
    @aaronsutton9924 8 місяців тому

    European Union of course

  • @dancahill9585
    @dancahill9585 8 місяців тому +22

    Is it really protectionist to implement tariffs against an industry that is heavily subsidized by its nation? The tariffs can raise the price to the market price that the product would have been at without the subsidies.
    China is clearly using mercantilist policies, and the rest of the world should respond in kind. Also, the EU should take a random sample of Chinese cars, and test them to EU standards, to make sure they pass. China is famous for taking shortcuts with safety.

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 8 місяців тому

      The "rest of the world" (i.e., uncompetitive U.S. and E.U. only) has been mercantilist since forever -- Westoids invented mercantilism hundreds of years ago, after all.
      Only when they can't compete they're suddenly crying about "unfair," et cetera -- same feces that was used against Japan previously.
      But China is not Japan. You can't push China around anymore, whiteboys LOL

    • @Andromeda365
      @Andromeda365 8 місяців тому +22

      It was all good when the Europeans and the US were doing it for decades and profiting handsomely. Now that china is beating them at their own game its a problem. European and US cars have been dominating the chinese market for over three decades where was this concern? Pathetic

    • @dancahill9585
      @dancahill9585 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Andromeda365 China isn't beating them at their own game. China is subsidizing industries to a huge amount. You can see fields of Chinese products that were built only because of subsidies, and abandoned in fields, because it was still profitable to make the products even if no one bought them.
      Stop being a Wumao, and start dealing with reality.

    • @yungunit8299
      @yungunit8299 8 місяців тому +10

      and EU/US famous for whining.

    • @yaoliang1580
      @yaoliang1580 8 місяців тому +2

      Check your delusions

  • @mabra-tico
    @mabra-tico 8 місяців тому

    sebagai hadiah dari negoisasi biadap itu, maka wilayah Asia umumnya dan ASEAN khususnya. menjadi korban........ dengan memberikan habitat iblis lintah parasit biadap itu keleluasaan mempergunakan seluruh asset demokrasi untuk di tindas!!

  • @guohuazhu2693
    @guohuazhu2693 8 місяців тому

    欧盟最惨的就是他有个美国爸爸

    • @C-3POII45I4
      @C-3POII45I4 7 місяців тому

      自己选的路,老欧洲但凡出个有卵的有不至于拉胯成这样,阿美的肉便器罢了。

  • @dancahill9585
    @dancahill9585 8 місяців тому +1

    It's really impressive how many Wumaos are showing up in the comments. Lots of people earning their 50 cents.

    • @ruzicas.5819
      @ruzicas.5819 8 місяців тому

      Yes. DW based videos hurt them a lot. 😅

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 8 місяців тому

      So u agree that wumao means your dad . No wonder u look sad .
      50 cent is American 🤪🤪🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 8 місяців тому

      @@ruzicas.5819 source ?
      Btw wumao = i WU ur MA in her 0

    • @jacksmith-mu3ee
      @jacksmith-mu3ee 8 місяців тому

      Tell me you re jealous of china without trekking me you re jealous of china

    • @JonySmith-bb4gx
      @JonySmith-bb4gx 7 місяців тому

      So u agree that everyone here is your dad .
      Wumao = I WU ur MA in her O

  • @swapansinha5717
    @swapansinha5717 8 місяців тому

    Us and eu afraid of China 😂😅😂😅

  • @Alice-hh5kd
    @Alice-hh5kd 8 місяців тому

    So funny when Germany, France and US cars came to Asian countries we never heard our government imposed sanctions, subsidised issues, increased high tax...to you.
    Now you are doing that to Asia cars.!!!!!!!
    If you do that means you already lost in the game that's why you imposed all these.

  • @astephens1963
    @astephens1963 8 місяців тому +4

    I do everything I can to buy American first, Canadianm or Mexican 2nd and European as a last resort. I avoid made in China at all cost

    • @aslampervez2294
      @aslampervez2294 8 місяців тому +2

      Biden nuland love pipelines😂😂😂😂❤❤❤

    • @marcioborgesreis9066
      @marcioborgesreis9066 8 місяців тому

      I buy European only ... American , Canada, Japan, south korea , Taiwan , Australia and New zeland had last resort .

    • @kioly_ah
      @kioly_ah 8 місяців тому +2

      why you treat yourself so bad...

    • @mkodyChallengesYOu
      @mkodyChallengesYOu 8 місяців тому

      I only buy China products and their new phone is magical and brics nations products whenever possible
      Also I avoid Europe as much as possible in purchases
      No1 enemy is is/real products
      I do eat subway that's American
      Will try cut it out

    • @calvinblue894
      @calvinblue894 8 місяців тому +3

      Oh right..but..parts inside these are also Made in China.. LOL 🤣😂🤣🤣