I really wish the media would stop describing the accident as if the plane crashed into the helicopter when the video clearly shows the helicopter crashed into the plane.
If a bug flies infront of a car windshield on a highway, did the car run into the bug or the bug run into the car? It doesn’t really matter until an investigation is finalized. People jump to conclusions so quickly.
Air vessels have red and green running lights on their sides. The red light is on the left side. If an approaching vessel sees that RED LIGHT, that means they are supposed to yield the right of way to that vessel. The airliner hit that helicopter on it's left side which means the airliner did not yield the right of way. Therefore, without further investigation, it is a true fact that the airliner crashed into the helicopter. The helicopter had the right of way. My issue is that even if you have the right of way, and you see that bright light from that airliner coming right at you, it's better to take evasive action and drop down to the floor to avoid a collision. Right now, the video shows the airliner is at fault. Only the black boxes inside the helicopter can determine if the pilots knew there was a threat approaching them, and did nothing to evade the threat.
@@MrCoolguy425 The plane hit the helicopter on it's left side. That means the plane is at fault because on the left side (port side) of all air and sea vessels is a "Red Running Light". The right side is a "Green Running Light". If you're approaching a vessel and you see the RED LIGHT, that means that vessel has the right of way. That plane saw the red light on that helicopter and did not yield the right of way. This is why everyone is saying the plane crashed into the helicopter. The only issue here for the helicopter is whether or not they saw the threat approaching them, and did not take evasive action to prevent a collision. How that helicopter did not see that bright light on that airliner is beyond me. Until they get the black box, to determine if they saw it coming at them and did nothing to evade, all evidence points to the airliner being the blame
@ there’s an additional problem. Both jets and helicopters have the same “right of way” priority, however landing aircraft on final take priority over other powered aircraft. So the jet, clearly landing, would have right of way over the helicopter if the helicopter was not on final.
Crazy how they are going to say the plane hit the helicopter when in fact the video shows the helicopter running straight into the path of the planes landing route .
@@Boston_617 and if the helicopter was cleared to cross the runway at low altitude by the tower? Then whose fault is it? Speculation is stupid, wait for the investigation to finishz
If you approach a vessel and you see the left side of that vessel (port side), that vessel has the right of way. There's a red light on the port side, and a green light on the starboard side (right side). You see red, you yield, You see green, you have the right of way. The plane saw red, the plane was in the wrong. ... Just because the plane was landing, that don't mean it was at the correct altitude to be landing. That's another factor,
@@ThisUnderWorldOfDarkness boat traffic is not applicable to aircraft. An aircraft on final approach has right of way over aircraft that are in normal operation in all scenarios because in landing conditions they have limited maneuverability
That actual does mean a lot. More than likely jet was cleared so they are final approach. I’m curious to know if the Army helo got permission from ATC to cross the flight path. So the easy answer is either the Army Helo failed to request permission to cross and the Army pilot is at fault or ATC lost situation awareness and granted permission to cross or they crossed at the wrong altitude, wrong area.
@@mdeporres19 what facts u have..one ur told from the news actors lol .u can see that hawk basically chase the plane ..what reason would a black hawk have at a regular airport ?? I fly alot n never see black hawks on the runway ....don't be a fool..open ur eyes..the world isnt a happy place nowadays ..corrupt people doin corrupt things to keep their corrupt money n power ..by any means
It seems most likely that the helicopter was approaching the runway and didn't see the aircraft overhead, possibly thinking it was following in behind the aircraft in front of it when the other plane descended from above the helicopter. The helicopter wouldn't have seen that plane above it, and that plane wouldn't have been able see the helicopter below it. My guess is ATC communication was not specific enough or quick enough for either the plane nor the helicopter pilots to correct avoid the collision.
@@digiblak997 was the plane landing at too shallow approach which caused it to fly into the pattern for the helicopter? Did the helicopter increase altitude to try to avoid landing traffic and end up hitting it? Did the tower fail to provide traffic notifications to the pilots? Someone fucked up, the investigation is there to find out who.
@@digiblak997 it was, but the jet pilot should still be able to see an aircraft with nav lights. The helicopter should see the plane with lights, and traffic control should warn the jet of traffic around the airport.
Why not? This happens in every airport across the country. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Helicopters both civilian and military fly into and in the vicinity of airports that fixed wing aircraft fly into. Every single day!
The plane didn't collide with the helicopter, the helicopter crashed into the side of the plane while the plane was coming into land. You are making it sound that the plane was at fault. Why?
Would that just mean that the plane got there first? In other words if the helicopter was just slightly forward the plane would have crashed into the side of the helicopter?
@@DavidStrchldno. The plane was on its intended trajectory for landing. The helicopter should’ve been aware and nowhere near it. Helicopter operator is at fault
Because the military industrial complex can do no wrong. But seriously these black hawks and ospreys just drop outta the sky like rocks at this point wtf are we even paying for with our taxes anymore? 😂💀
As a student pilot flying in and out of small airports, helicopters are nerve wracking. If you look at accidents in General Aviation, so many are caused by helicopters at the airport, near the runway. No excuse, no explanation, just saying helicopters and planes don’t play well. Just because they both fly I hate that they put them together in the same area.
Have watched several frames of this - THE HELICOPTER was the one that flew into the plane - that plane was landing when the blackhawk flew into it. Reports even state the helicopter was flying dark, no gps...why...WHY?!?!?!
@@aprillee2593ah yes, because I too think putting a helicopter im piloting in front of a landing plane is a great idea for my health. We clearly don’t have the full story and that’s what the investigation will reveal. Was the plane landing at too shallow of an angle? Was the helicopter cleared to cross the runway during an active landing? Was the tower aware of both aircraft? Why did the pilots of the plane not attempt a go-around when another aircraft was on a collision course? Lots of unanswered questions
@MrCoolguy425 you will never have the full story trust me. Keep believing our government isn't evil in corrupt. You'll see and don't say I warn you. You thought Diddy was it. Now it runs way deeper
@MrCoolguy425 cute how you actually believe a legit investigation will take. You must be young and naive because you sound intelligent, so I'm guessing you're in your 20s.
They probably did see them, but they were so bright, they probably could not tell that it was flying directly at them. The plane hit the helicopter on the left side, which means the helicopter had the right of way. The plane is to blame, especially if it was landing at the wrong altitude.
The only question is who was on the plane and helicopter. Something this ridiculous doesn’t happen by accident. Prayers for all the lovely people who were collateral damage.
It doesn’t really matter who collided in which order. Two aircraft collided mid air, pray for the families, and blame who’s responsible when the investigation is complete.
I fly a DJI mini 4 drone with all sorts of obstacles sensors! How can a multi million dollar military aircraft not have the capability to know danger was near? How could this happen?
Avionics guy here who works on and modifies H-60’s. There is not a single sensor on that aircraft to let the pilot know he is close to hitting anything other than the ground. That’s what the crew chiefs job is. To watch for obstacles. This is an assumption but they also may have been wearing NVGS.
A helicopter that costs 5.9 to over 10 million dollars doesn’t have any instruments that would alert the pilot of an aircraft approaching it? So very sad for all of the lives lost and the families destroyed.
Not at those altitudes. Because aircraft are coming into land taking off and holding patterns etc those systems would be blaring in the pilot's ears continually. So they're designed to not work at low altitudes one on approach.
As someone stationed in fort hood and who deals with black hawks.. there’s no reason why they would be training near an airport. Plus at night pilots wear NVG goggles how tf did they not see the airplane???
So they don’t do nighttime pattern work for their flight hours at fort hood? That is surprising because if I’m not mistaken all army pilots should have nighttime qualifications and remain proficient in them. Which that would be a good reason to train at an airport at night. That’s just speculation though. I for one am gonna be happy to read the FAA investigation report on this incident.
Well, it is a STUPID thing to do. To train military helicopter pilots near an airport. The airliner caused the accident though, they hit the helicopter on the left side which means the helicopter had the right of way
Helicopter was wrong. It was highly maneuverable, How on earth the 2 Pilots failed to see the plane and move. The Plane Pilots were on final approach doing everything right. The Helo was below them not in line of sight. The Air Traffic Controller failed to keep the Helo away from the plane. Something is wrong. Air Space there 3 miles from the White House is insanely restricted. No "Training flight" goes in the dark into the approach path. No Experienced Captain of an extremely expensive Blackhawk would allow a "Student" to ram a plane. He would take control and evade. Who was on that Helo or in that Plane? Was this deliberate? If not how could such colossal mistakes line up together?
You are absolutely right. Those Blackhawk pilots were absolutely unaware of what they are doing or this accident was purposely created. No doubt, it's not just a coincidence, statistically those collision have almost zero chances, and the weather wasn't foggy at all. Hm., I'm suspecting that this is one more mystery which will not be solved.
'pilotes' un bien grand mot, ils étaient en formation bêtement dans une zone très occupée par de vrais pilotes et de vrais passagers qui sont morts inutilement. Mes condolélances aux familes des victimes.
To train nighttime landings at a well lit and accessible airport and remain proficient and retain a nighttime qualification? I think you answered your own question to be honest.
@MrCoolguy425 Doesnt the military have their own airfield and dedicated airspace for training? Seems foolish to mess with commercial traffic on final in the dark.
@ in most circumstances yes, and for most training they do. In this case for night flying the helicopter was following the river at low altitude for an annual night flying qualification. That isn’t unusual, as over a river there are few obstacles and is a stark difference between lit terrain on either side of the river, and the darker waters is easy to make out making navigation easier. Unfortunately we don’t know what was happening in the cockpit yet and will have to wait for the investigation for why the helicopter crew did not attempt to avoid the landing aircraft.
It is amazing how people watching a fuzzy clip from long distance AT NIGHT can determine with such staunch certainty EXACTLY how it happened..... and they know EXACTLY who to blame.....and EXACTLY what the military should/should not be doing...... as they continue their political vitriol even in the midst of a terrible tragedy. wow!😮
Army Black Hawk had absolutely no business anywhere around that air space where jets are flying towards and into landing strips. And, what were they doing out there at that hour anyways and who authorized theur being out there this hour? They'd better get down to serious investigation. Absolute recklessness.
They have the same business as the jet to be fair. It’s an airport, to have aircraft military or civilian land and take off. Let the investigation finish before jumping to conclusions.
All the armchair expert analysts in here LOL! Meanwhile, I'm waiting to see how this is Trump's fault. Because you know the galaxy brains out there are already trying to somehow find a connection.
You mean to tell me one of the most advanced helicopters on the planet couldn't detect a big ass plane heading strait at it with bright ass lights glowing? And the plane also fitted with sensors and big fucking windows couldn't see the bright ass helicopter lights?
Flying in the dark/night is extremely dangerous. Though it looked like the helicopter deliberately ran into the airplane, there is more to it than that.
First of all, WHY was the helicopter anywhere near the airport approach path of aircraft?!? That helicopter had NO BUSINESS BEING IN THE APPROACH PATH, THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NO-FLY ZONE!!!
It was clear for everyone to see that a helicopter actually seemed like it was chasing after the plane to hit it. Very bizarre and now they’re saying that the plane hit the helicopter. What the????
@@bobby-ov9qn I have and it definitely looked intentional by the 🚁 . They were most likely trying to stop the plane from a planned attack by the Russians. Nobody likes Trump or his racist supporters. Only racist or self hating Blacks/ Hispanic like Trump.
In these moments you find yourself looking for something profound or insightful to say to try and help yourself and others be at peace with something like this. But there is nothing. Nothing that can be said that will undo any of this horrible moment for so so many people. We can remind that God loves each and every soul lost, but in all his infinite time and omniscience he never misses his chance to say goodbye.
Trump is the dictator and chief of the military.. he is Totally responsible!! He fired all air traffic controllers and federal workers.. his fault! That is why no comments from him!!
Yeah the “thing going on” is there is an Army unit that routinely trains and lands there. They made mistakes, and they paid with their lives. Don’t insult the service members that died by labeling this tragic accident as some government conspiracy.
No reason why that army chopper should of been next to the air strip that close .def done on purpose .wonder who was on that plane that they wanted dead..shady like always .the video shows the thing chasing and aiming for the plane..literally
You know how crazy people would try to make me sound if I posted all my visions. I had a vision of a helicopter hitting a jet yesterday at about 11:30 am.
Because airports are big and take a lot of space? And military personnel can be transported into busy civilian airports? And the best way to train how to fly into busy civilian airports is to practice flying into busy civilian airports?
It is human nature for us to automatically try to fill in the missing pieces in our brains to explain something that we don’t know all of the details about. It’s not “wrong” of anyone to do that. People are doing it with the drone sightings and with the LA fires. It’s not ridiculous for us to do that. It’s not bad behavior. It’s human nature to try to fill in the blanks. It’s natural. When we are given facts and details we are less likely to do so. That said, I am personally a huge conspiracy theorist and the media DOES lie and spin. This IS a remarkable event - it’s hard to believe it was just an accident so people start filling in the holes themselves….
Ok now it's the planes fault ? Loss of altitude ? Ya I think it's usually indicative if landing . So military helicopters don't use air traffic control ?
“The jet collided with the helicopter.” Do you have eyes?! The helicopter crashed into the side of the plane almost like it was a suicide bombing. Why was that Blackhawk so close to the runway? R.I.P. to all involved.
The helicopter crew was at fault. Despite ATC and TCAS on the jet (though not active though at those altitudes), the final mechanism to keep those aircraft apart was "visual separation"...in this case the eyeballs of the helicopter crew who positively confirmed seeing the jet and the instruction to pass behind it. Something...momentary loss of spatial awareness, a distraction in the cockpit, another aircraft, or lights on the ground confused that crew. Ironically, good weather may have played a part, leading to more conflicting visual cues from bright lights - in bad weather the helo would not have been operating and/or there would have been more separation. There is also an element of extremely bad luck - even at slow landing speeds the aircraft would have been moving across the path of the helicopter at almost the length of a football field every second. Thousands of helicopter operations happen in busy airspace like this every day and collisions are extremely rare. On any other day, it would have been a near miss that would have never made headlines.
Just happened to land in the water as well? You can't fly a fucking drone near an airport. There are so many protocols in place that this should never happen. Sounds like a hit job.
All I know, is there's no such thing as coincidence. These aviation issues are happening for whatever reason. There was a fighter jet that malfunctioned just the other day in Alaska, now this..
This feels like some irresponsible journalism. Please find out why the blackhawk was in the path of the runway, and please stop phrasing this like the plane pilot flew into it. The plane and its pilot followed protocol, the blackhawk did not. The blackhawk took out those civilians and the correct line of questioning to obtain journalisitc integrity is, WHY. Be brave and ask.
how could this happen with all the air traffic systems of today. there is no chance for survival in the freezing water. Prayers and sincere condolences to their families may God bless them.
The helicopter pilot must have not been experienced and was in training. They should not have been training near airport flight landing. My condolences to all families. Im so sorry to hear this.
What happened to radar? Or was the flight controllers asleep? Someone needs to be held accountable now that we have a real Presidential administration.
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I really wish the media would stop describing the accident as if the plane crashed into the helicopter when the video clearly shows the helicopter crashed into the plane.
@@cynthiafoster8473 incoming plane always has right of way dude
If a bug flies infront of a car windshield on a highway, did the car run into the bug or the bug run into the car?
It doesn’t really matter until an investigation is finalized. People jump to conclusions so quickly.
Air vessels have red and green running lights on their sides. The red light is on the left side. If an approaching vessel sees that RED LIGHT, that means they are supposed to yield the right of way to that vessel. The airliner hit that helicopter on it's left side which means the airliner did not yield the right of way. Therefore, without further investigation, it is a true fact that the airliner crashed into the helicopter.
The helicopter had the right of way.
My issue is that even if you have the right of way, and you see that bright light from that airliner coming right at you, it's better to take evasive action and drop down to the floor to avoid a collision.
Right now, the video shows the airliner is at fault.
Only the black boxes inside the helicopter can determine if the pilots knew there was a threat approaching them, and did nothing to evade the threat.
@@MrCoolguy425 The plane hit the helicopter on it's left side. That means the plane is at fault because on the left side (port side) of all air and sea vessels is a "Red Running Light". The right side is a "Green Running Light". If you're approaching a vessel and you see the RED LIGHT, that means that vessel has the right of way. That plane saw the red light on that helicopter and did not yield the right of way.
This is why everyone is saying the plane crashed into the helicopter.
The only issue here for the helicopter is whether or not they saw the threat approaching them, and did not take evasive action to prevent a collision.
How that helicopter did not see that bright light on that airliner is beyond me.
Until they get the black box, to determine if they saw it coming at them and did nothing to evade, all evidence points to the airliner being the blame
@ there’s an additional problem. Both jets and helicopters have the same “right of way” priority, however landing aircraft on final take priority over other powered aircraft.
So the jet, clearly landing, would have right of way over the helicopter if the helicopter was not on final.
Crazy how they are going to say the plane hit the helicopter when in fact the video shows the helicopter running straight into the path of the planes landing route .
Exactly!
@@Boston_617 and if the helicopter was cleared to cross the runway at low altitude by the tower? Then whose fault is it?
Speculation is stupid, wait for the investigation to finishz
If you approach a vessel and you see the left side of that vessel (port side), that vessel has the right of way. There's a red light on the port side, and a green light on the starboard side (right side). You see red, you yield, You see green, you have the right of way. The plane saw red, the plane was in the wrong. ... Just because the plane was landing, that don't mean it was at the correct altitude to be landing. That's another factor,
@@ThisUnderWorldOfDarkness boat traffic is not applicable to aircraft. An aircraft on final approach has right of way over aircraft that are in normal operation in all scenarios because in landing conditions they have limited maneuverability
WRONG! Based on ATC recording/data, the jet was cleared for landing. The helicopter struck the jet. Fact check before reporting, please.
that dont mean shit
@@executiveinvestmentsaren’t you an adept and informed communicator. 🤡
That actual does mean a lot. More than likely jet was cleared so they are final approach. I’m curious to know if the Army helo got permission from ATC to cross the flight path. So the easy answer is either the Army Helo failed to request permission to cross and the Army pilot is at fault or ATC lost situation awareness and granted permission to cross or they crossed at the wrong altitude, wrong area.
@@mdeporres19 agreed. It seems like the news reports are trying to implicate the plane. Military propaganda.
@@mdeporres19 what facts u have..one ur told from the news actors lol .u can see that hawk basically chase the plane ..what reason would a black hawk have at a regular airport ?? I fly alot n never see black hawks on the runway ....don't be a fool..open ur eyes..the world isnt a happy place nowadays ..corrupt people doin corrupt things to keep their corrupt money n power ..by any means
Second Blackhawk helicopter we've lost during training exercises. Those programs need to be reviewed. RIP to all the lost souls.
Only the second?
This is like the 20th crash since the a models
Black hawks just need to be scraped into paper weights at this point. Those things fall out of the sky like rocks CONSTANTLY
Why are you more concerned about a mechanical object than the many people who lost their lives?
Thanks, Trump.
Notice how they are saying the jet collided with the Blackhawk? It was clearly the other way around
Yeah but have you considered military good so military no do wrong? 😂💀
@@Glocktopus129the military have accidents all the time. It’s something else to this. The media are always trying to spin a narrative.
Was it? Clearly? Were you there and are you some form of expert? LOL!
It seems most likely that the helicopter was approaching the runway and didn't see the aircraft overhead, possibly thinking it was following in behind the aircraft in front of it when the other plane descended from above the helicopter. The helicopter wouldn't have seen that plane above it, and that plane wouldn't have been able see the helicopter below it. My guess is ATC communication was not specific enough or quick enough for either the plane nor the helicopter pilots to correct avoid the collision.
The plane had no other pattern to take, the helicopter was in its only flight space .. either way it’s helicopter fault
I want to express my heartfelt sympathy for everyone's family during this time.
Thank you Queen
You people.... The plane was in the right. It was landing for god sakes. the HELI hit the plane
@@digiblak997 was the plane landing at too shallow approach which caused it to fly into the pattern for the helicopter?
Did the helicopter increase altitude to try to avoid landing traffic and end up hitting it?
Did the tower fail to provide traffic notifications to the pilots?
Someone fucked up, the investigation is there to find out who.
@MrCoolguy425 valid questions that will take time to be answered. But what we do know was the plane was cleared for landing.
@@digiblak997 it was, but the jet pilot should still be able to see an aircraft with nav lights. The helicopter should see the plane with lights, and traffic control should warn the jet of traffic around the airport.
@MrCoolguy425 more then enough information out now. Heli at fault
What the hell was that Blackhawk helicopter even doing in that space?
Training...
I asked myself the same question, something ain’t right about this
Inexcusable. Why TF do they have to train in DIRECT PATH of landing and taking off commercial jets. Go somewhere else!
You know that helicopter was not supposed to be there
Why not? This happens in every airport across the country. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Helicopters both civilian and military fly into and in the vicinity of airports that fixed wing aircraft fly into. Every single day!
Military needs to be sued by the families and held accountable for this accident
Settle down bro and wait for the investigation to be completed before you start spouting nonsense.
Trump is at fault.. he fired all traffic controllers...!:
Wait till the investigation is done.
Ils sont morts.......bêtement
@@bobby-ov9qn Why is the military training on a civilian airport?
There should have been no military training flights at night so close to the runway. What were they thinking? SMH.
They knew exactly what they were doing!
Thanks, Trump.
That's what I was wondering
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@@NomadHomadare you drinking already this morning? We know you need help.
The plane didn't collide with the helicopter, the helicopter crashed into the side of the plane while the plane was coming into land. You are making it sound that the plane was at fault. Why?
Would that just mean that the plane got there first? In other words if the helicopter was just slightly forward the plane would have crashed into the side of the helicopter?
1 angle clearly shows the heli flew into the path....
Look where this video is from. Do you think they would blame the current regime for anything?
@@DavidStrchldno. The plane was on its intended trajectory for landing. The helicopter should’ve been aware and nowhere near it. Helicopter operator is at fault
Because the military industrial complex can do no wrong. But seriously these black hawks and ospreys just drop outta the sky like rocks at this point wtf are we even paying for with our taxes anymore? 😂💀
As a student pilot flying in and out of small airports, helicopters are nerve wracking. If you look at accidents in General Aviation, so many are caused by helicopters at the airport, near the runway. No excuse, no explanation, just saying helicopters and planes don’t play well. Just because they both fly I hate that they put them together in the same area.
Sad for the victims in the passenger plane, especially they were so young and had all their life ahead of them
Have watched several frames of this - THE HELICOPTER was the one that flew into the plane - that plane was landing when the blackhawk flew into it. Reports even state the helicopter was flying dark, no gps...why...WHY?!?!?!
Because they didn't need to different atc rules
Thats teh first damn thing that crossed my mind.
Thanks, Trump.
@@Johnnyblash123BS
@@NomadHomadyes because trump has to do with a training
My question is… how did the helicopter pilot not see those extremely bright landing lights?
They did see the lights lol y'all can't be this dense
@@aprillee2593ah yes, because I too think putting a helicopter im piloting in front of a landing plane is a great idea for my health.
We clearly don’t have the full story and that’s what the investigation will reveal.
Was the plane landing at too shallow of an angle? Was the helicopter cleared to cross the runway during an active landing? Was the tower aware of both aircraft? Why did the pilots of the plane not attempt a go-around when another aircraft was on a collision course?
Lots of unanswered questions
@MrCoolguy425 you will never have the full story trust me. Keep believing our government isn't evil in corrupt. You'll see and don't say I warn you. You thought Diddy was it. Now it runs way deeper
@MrCoolguy425 cute how you actually believe a legit investigation will take. You must be young and naive because you sound intelligent, so I'm guessing you're in your 20s.
They probably did see them, but they were so bright, they probably could not tell that it was flying directly at them. The plane hit the helicopter on the left side, which means the helicopter had the right of way. The plane is to blame, especially if it was landing at the wrong altitude.
The only question is who was on the plane and helicopter. Something this ridiculous doesn’t happen by accident. Prayers for all the lovely people who were collateral damage.
I agree wholeheartedly. It is ridiculous. Planned?!
Why can’t it happen by accident? Over millions of flights across nearly a hundred years, accidents happen. Now the investigation will tell us why.
The helicopter collided with the airplane. Get it right!
It doesn’t really matter who collided in which order. Two aircraft collided mid air, pray for the families, and blame who’s responsible when the investigation is complete.
Absolutely tragic. While there is still hope for survivors, hearts go out to all the victims - and their families.
35° water. I doubt there will be survivors 😢
Thanks, Trump.
@@NomadHomad I have reported you to You Tube for "violent or repulsive content". How dare you blame this on our new President!
I fly a DJI mini 4 drone with all sorts of obstacles sensors! How can a multi million dollar military aircraft not have the capability to know danger was near? How could this happen?
Dunning Kruger effect??
@@NativeTexMexican What is that?
incompétence au plus haut niveau, c'est tout
That Blackhawk has warnings for incoming missiles, how would there not be many many alarms going off before a massive plane hit.
Avionics guy here who works on and modifies H-60’s. There is not a single sensor on that aircraft to let the pilot know he is close to hitting anything other than the ground. That’s what the crew chiefs job is. To watch for obstacles. This is an assumption but they also may have been wearing NVGS.
Who was on that American Airlines flight? That's what I would like to know.
A helicopter that costs 5.9 to over 10 million dollars doesn’t have any instruments that would alert the pilot of an aircraft approaching it? So very sad for all of the lives lost and the families destroyed.
Not at those altitudes. Because aircraft are coming into land taking off and holding patterns etc those systems would be blaring in the pilot's ears continually. So they're designed to not work at low altitudes one on approach.
As someone stationed in fort hood and who deals with black hawks.. there’s no reason why they would be training near an airport. Plus at night pilots wear NVG goggles how tf did they not see the airplane???
So they don’t do nighttime pattern work for their flight hours at fort hood?
That is surprising because if I’m not mistaken all army pilots should have nighttime qualifications and remain proficient in them. Which that would be a good reason to train at an airport at night.
That’s just speculation though. I for one am gonna be happy to read the FAA investigation report on this incident.
Passenger jet didn’t collide, the helicopter collided. Disrespectful.
Thanks, Trump.
They've been Instructed by the government to say that.
Je dirai plutôt 'incompétence' and 'négligence'
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Why is the military having training flights any where near low altitude planes…..
Practicing for something
@@deraldo313no shit that’s what they’re doing but WHY would they do it near other planes that are also going to be low…
Because the President last week gutted the administration whose job it was to manage stuff like this.
Even training flights have to take-off from somewhere. They were most likely going to a training area.
Blackhawks training near a busy airport over the Nation's Capital at night? And they can't sue the military . . . .
Well, it is a STUPID thing to do. To train military helicopter pilots near an airport. The airliner caused the accident though, they hit the helicopter on the left side which means the helicopter had the right of way
Helicopter was wrong. It was highly maneuverable, How on earth the 2 Pilots failed to see the plane and move. The Plane Pilots were on final approach doing everything right. The Helo was below them not in line of sight. The Air Traffic Controller failed to keep the Helo away from the plane. Something is wrong. Air Space there 3 miles from the White House is insanely restricted. No "Training flight" goes in the dark into the approach path. No Experienced Captain of an extremely expensive Blackhawk would allow a "Student" to ram a plane. He would take control and evade. Who was on that Helo or in that Plane? Was this deliberate? If not how could such colossal mistakes line up together?
Something is wrong, yep and the sky is blue. Glad we cleared that all up
You are absolutely right. Those Blackhawk pilots were absolutely unaware of what they are doing or this accident was purposely created. No doubt, it's not just a coincidence, statistically those collision have almost zero chances, and the weather wasn't foggy at all. Hm., I'm suspecting that this is one more mystery which will not be solved.
Military pilots fault! The passenger jet has the right of way. The us army should be ashamed of them selfs
Duh!
The investigation is still ongoing.. let’s wait for everything to come out first before jumping the gun
'pilotes' un bien grand mot, ils étaient en formation bêtement dans une zone très occupée par de vrais pilotes et de vrais passagers qui sont morts inutilement. Mes condolélances aux familes des victimes.
It's Trump's fault for freezing government programs like a petulant child
@@Gertrude12345who said they were training? Could the helicopter not just be landing at the airport?
All I can do is send prayers for peace and comfort for the families and loved ones of those in the plane and helicopter! 💜
Incompetence has become very common in our military.
How does a night training flight path include active landing patterns at a major airport?
To train nighttime landings at a well lit and accessible airport and remain proficient and retain a nighttime qualification?
I think you answered your own question to be honest.
@MrCoolguy425 Doesnt the military have their own airfield and dedicated airspace for training? Seems foolish to mess with commercial traffic on final in the dark.
@ in most circumstances yes, and for most training they do. In this case for night flying the helicopter was following the river at low altitude for an annual night flying qualification.
That isn’t unusual, as over a river there are few obstacles and is a stark difference between lit terrain on either side of the river, and the darker waters is easy to make out making navigation easier. Unfortunately we don’t know what was happening in the cockpit yet and will have to wait for the investigation for why the helicopter crew did not attempt to avoid the landing aircraft.
It is amazing how people watching a fuzzy clip from long distance AT NIGHT can determine with such staunch certainty EXACTLY how it happened..... and they know EXACTLY who to blame.....and EXACTLY what the military should/should not be doing...... as they continue their political vitriol even in the midst of a terrible tragedy. wow!😮
Anyone with real ATC training would see right through this BS.
The cost of incompetency is unimaginable.
Oh no, my hearts are with the families of those who lost their lives 💔😢
I would want an investigation of the individuals who were training and the instructors.
There will be no investigation. Trust me because they don't want the truth to come out.
Theyre not with us anymore
Praying for the family members of those individuals affected in the crush.
Army Black Hawk had absolutely no business anywhere around that air space where jets are flying towards and into landing strips. And, what were they doing out there at that hour anyways and who authorized theur being out there this hour? They'd better get down to serious investigation. Absolute recklessness.
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They have the same business as the jet to be fair. It’s an airport, to have aircraft military or civilian land and take off.
Let the investigation finish before jumping to conclusions.
All the armchair expert analysts in here LOL! Meanwhile, I'm waiting to see how this is Trump's fault. Because you know the galaxy brains out there are already trying to somehow find a connection.
Oh, trust me they have already started claiming he gutted the FAA. I'm sure that was the cause!
They’ve already started. This is going to be a long 4 years
He said if the pilots had used disinfectants this could have been avoided.
You mean to tell me one of the most advanced helicopters on the planet couldn't detect a big ass plane heading strait at it with bright ass lights glowing? And the plane also fitted with sensors and big fucking windows couldn't see the bright ass helicopter lights?
They have no shame. I saw a news article with the title "Alaskan Airlines jet crashes into river"
I can see the plane not having time to avoid it
Pilots also wear NVGs.. idk what happened.
Damn skippy. Some one FUBAR-ed it. whether it was the Warrant, the Pilot, or Air Traffic Control
Best comment so far!
How awful. Prayers for all and the SAR people.
Flying in the dark/night is extremely dangerous. Though it looked like the helicopter deliberately ran into the airplane, there is more to it than that.
First of all, WHY was the helicopter anywhere near the airport approach path of aircraft?!? That helicopter had NO BUSINESS BEING IN THE APPROACH PATH, THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NO-FLY ZONE!!!
Something fishy is going on
Thanks, Trump.
Because the government sent it there to stop the attack, because we our risk at and racist won't be happy until America falls.
That’s my thought
@@NomadHomadTDS
It was clear for everyone to see that a helicopter actually seemed like it was chasing after the plane to hit it. Very bizarre and now they’re saying that the plane hit the helicopter. What the????
They think we stupid , 😂
We are.
Who was on that plane that they wanted dead? It will all come out eventually! Prayers for the families!!🙏
Definitely a lot of unanswered questions. Prayers to all involved, friends and loved ones
helicopter in the wrong
Apply to the NTSB bro
So, you completed your investigation?
@@bobby-ov9qn I have and it definitely looked intentional by the 🚁 . They were most likely trying to stop the plane from a planned attack by the Russians. Nobody likes Trump or his racist supporters. Only racist or self hating Blacks/ Hispanic like Trump.
Whole families of young figure skaters of US team were on board😢 Children, teens, their parents and coaches. A lot of them russian descendants.
Yea, but who else was on that flight?
Yeah look at fly log
@OrtusMallum2075 Excellent question.🤔Could there be THIS ABYSMAL level of incompetence or something very sinister?🤨
In these moments you find yourself looking for something profound or insightful to say to try and help yourself and others be at peace with something like this.
But there is nothing. Nothing that can be said that will undo any of this horrible moment for so so many people. We can remind that God loves each and every soul lost, but in all his infinite time and omniscience he never misses his chance to say goodbye.
Is this another plane crash carrying a specific inconvenient person?
I flew out of DCA airport last night. There was an unusual amount of turbulence during takeoff. The river was still iced over in many spots.
And these are the “trained top secret clearance professionals”.
Who was on the American Airlines flight or the black hawk!!!
Things like this do not just happen!!!
Wonder how the Military is going to play this off and take 0 responsibility for the situation.
Trump is the dictator and chief of the military.. he is Totally responsible!! He fired all air traffic controllers and federal workers.. his fault! That is why no comments from him!!
By saying it was a military exercise. That’s the first step. Clearly there is something else going on
Yeah the “thing going on” is there is an Army unit that routinely trains and lands there. They made mistakes, and they paid with their lives. Don’t insult the service members that died by labeling this tragic accident as some government conspiracy.
Is there a debris on the runways or is the airport closed for no reason
No reason why that army chopper should of been next to the air strip that close .def done on purpose .wonder who was on that plane that they wanted dead..shady like always .the video shows the thing chasing and aiming for the plane..literally
You know how crazy people would try to make me sound if I posted all my visions. I had a vision of a helicopter hitting a jet yesterday at about 11:30 am.
That is remarkable
You should start speaking on them
@@sheedabeeda7213 I agree. Share your dreams with us.
Why was the Blackhawk training near an airport ??????
Because airports are big and take a lot of space? And military personnel can be transported into busy civilian airports? And the best way to train how to fly into busy civilian airports is to practice flying into busy civilian airports?
The blackhawk hit the jet. Not the other way around. Stop the spin.
This makes my heart hurt and the assumptions people make are cruel and unnecessary. We are all too quick to place blame. 😢
It is human nature for us to automatically try to fill in the missing pieces in our brains to explain something that we don’t know all of the details about. It’s not “wrong” of anyone to do that. People are doing it with the drone sightings and with the LA fires. It’s not ridiculous for us to do that. It’s not bad behavior. It’s human nature to try to fill in the blanks. It’s natural. When we are given facts and details we are less likely to do so. That said, I am personally a huge conspiracy theorist and the media DOES lie and spin. This IS a remarkable event - it’s hard to believe it was just an accident so people start filling in the holes themselves….
Something stinks bad
Mossad
Why would anyone think it was a good idea to do a training flight near a busy airport
Training flights happen at busy airports all the time, that’s nothing new.
This is ironically likely a slow time for this airport anyways.
Ok now it's the planes fault ? Loss of altitude ?
Ya I think it's usually indicative if landing .
So military helicopters don't use air traffic control ?
Whatever the news says its usually always the oppposite.
Yup.
So there was no collision or crash, and they are actually cars that drove past each other without incident on a road.
Cool!
there’s something they aren’t saying
“The jet collided with the helicopter.” Do you have eyes?! The helicopter crashed into the side of the plane almost like it was a suicide bombing. Why was that Blackhawk so close to the runway? R.I.P. to all involved.
We need to know who was flying the helicopter (gender and race). I'm going to guess DEI hires.
Or trans
A UH-60 military exercise conducted in a civilian airport take-off/landing airspace is very unusual.
Not in DC it isn’t
@@JakeSmith-rv1hm
Agreed, it's actually quite common.
My question would be why the hell would military training exercises be in the flight path of commercial airlines? Is the DOD this careless?
Apparently this was normal practice. I was wondering the same thing.
@@Sbxallday
It is indeed a normal practice given a military base on the DC side of the Potomac.
@@bobby-ov9qn The collision looked intentional.
What are the odds that we will ever know the real, authentic truth? .00000001%
This is a tragic event. Praying for the victims families 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Heartbreaking.
The helicopter crew was at fault. Despite ATC and TCAS on the jet (though not active though at those altitudes), the final mechanism to keep those aircraft apart was "visual separation"...in this case the eyeballs of the helicopter crew who positively confirmed seeing the jet and the instruction to pass behind it. Something...momentary loss of spatial awareness, a distraction in the cockpit, another aircraft, or lights on the ground confused that crew. Ironically, good weather may have played a part, leading to more conflicting visual cues from bright lights - in bad weather the helo would not have been operating and/or there would have been more separation. There is also an element of extremely bad luck - even at slow landing speeds the aircraft would have been moving across the path of the helicopter at almost the length of a football field every second. Thousands of helicopter operations happen in busy airspace like this every day and collisions are extremely rare. On any other day, it would have been a near miss that would have never made headlines.
Just happened to land in the water as well? You can't fly a fucking drone near an airport. There are so many protocols in place that this should never happen. Sounds like a hit job.
There is no way you will ever convince me that this was an accident.
There must have been a reason Trump gutted Air Traffic Control his first week in office.
@@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx481that doesn’t stop air traffic control from doing their jobs.
@@sheedabeeda7213 usually when someone is fired , they quit doing the job.
ATC didn't see it on radar ?
it lookslike the other way around, actually.
Shouldn’t be training in a city in the 1st place!
It will take a while, but the FAA will ultimately blame the helicopter pilots. This is a disgrace and a tragedy.
“Land now, Land now” Did’nt have time to say” there’s a plane directly in your path”. Weird !! Heard go here, go there without an explanation why.
All are dead.. but who are they????
Army helicopter or FAA “approved” drone?
All I know, is there's no such thing as coincidence. These aviation issues are happening for whatever reason. There was a fighter jet that malfunctioned just the other day in Alaska, now this..
Blackhawk or Drone?
Uhhh 60 passengers= 60 dead bodies. 3 soldiers = 3 dead soldiers. We don't need first responders to tell us to figure that out.
Dear Military, how about we don’t do training at night right next to airports? Absolutely senseless.
This feels like some irresponsible journalism. Please find out why the blackhawk was in the path of the runway, and please stop phrasing this like the plane pilot flew into it. The plane and its pilot followed protocol, the blackhawk did not. The blackhawk took out those civilians and the correct line of questioning to obtain journalisitc integrity is, WHY. Be brave and ask.
Why was the Blackhawks training flight anywhere near the airport?
Something is fishy. Thats all I’m saying.
The helicopter was in the wrong. It shouldn’t have been there.
That you for completing your investigation bro.
What the hell is the military doing training in the path of commercial airspace
اینا همش تاوان ظلمی هست که آمریکایی ها درحق مردم جهان کردند.rrrrrrrrreza
Potentially told to cross under traffic by the tower to remain in the pattern to land at the airport.
Anything now is just speculation.
We hope todays “politics” don’t impact this disaster and it’s investigation.
how could this happen with all the air traffic systems of today. there is no chance for survival in the freezing water. Prayers and sincere condolences to their families may God bless them.
wtf was the helicopter doing within 2400 feet of a runway??
It was a training exercise which is quite common around the airport space.
It is the Army pilots fault. But they will try and blame the AA pilot.
The helicopter collided with the plane. Do your job right.
This is HIGHLY suspect.
The helicopter pilot must have not been experienced and was in training. They should not have been training near airport flight landing. My condolences to all families. Im so sorry to hear this.
What happened to radar? Or was the flight controllers asleep? Someone needs to be held accountable now that we have a real Presidential administration.