Chinese Warlord Pistols: The Huge Shanxi .45 ACP Broomhandle

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  • Опубліковано 16 чер 2021
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    The best known and most highly valued of the Warlord Era Chinese pistols is undoubtedly the .45 ACP copy of the C96 Mauser. These were made at the Taiyuan Arsenal in Shanxi Province between 1928 and 1931, with more than 8,000 made in total. They were the product of a proper Western-style production line, and Taiyuan Arsenal actually made standard C96 copies in 7.63mm Mauser before scaling up to the .45 ACP version. This change was made because the Arsenal was also making Thompson submachine guns, and it made sense to have caliber compatibility with their C96-style pistols. The result was a truly massive hand cannon, holding 10 rounds of ammunition in its fixed magazine, and fitted with an equally large combination shoulder stock and holster.
    In the 1980s, a run of copies of these pistols were made in China and imported into the United States under the guise of being refinished originals. In actuality, they are poorly made imitations - the original Shanxi .45 Broomhandles are quite high quality pistols.
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  • @rcforb5255
    @rcforb5255 3 роки тому +378

    1st episode: 9x25mm mauser
    2nd episode: .45 ACP mauser
    3rd episode: .50 BMG mauser
    4th episode: 20mm mauser
    5th episode: 105mm mauser
    6th episode: 800mm schwerer gustav mauser

    • @dehydratedH2O_4805
      @dehydratedH2O_4805 3 роки тому +12

      3th?
      Edit: you changed it

    • @thatsnotafact7840
      @thatsnotafact7840 3 роки тому +43

      7th episode: a Mauser hastily taped to a cruise missile

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery 3 роки тому +36

      @@thatsnotafact7840 does the cruise missile say WAUSER WAUSER WAUSER PATRIOTIC WISSILE?

    • @nicolasheung441
      @nicolasheung441 3 роки тому +7

      8th episode: An underground ICBM launching system that is actually a Mauser

    • @verasinha7863
      @verasinha7863 3 роки тому +1

      9th episode: Mauser tank

  • @TheSpectacledSteve
    @TheSpectacledSteve 3 роки тому +272

    Packs quite a punch when you're on a bike.

    • @Initial_Gopnik
      @Initial_Gopnik 3 роки тому +5

      Or a rickshaw.

    • @wyattpeterson6286
      @wyattpeterson6286 3 роки тому +6

      A bike?

    • @TheSpectacledSteve
      @TheSpectacledSteve 3 роки тому +56

      @@wyattpeterson6286 its a reference to metal gear solid 3 snake eater a character named EVA used the same chinese copy broomhandle

    • @ryandull6581
      @ryandull6581 3 роки тому +16

      @@TheSpectacledSteve I bet everyone thought you meant Hickok45

    • @wyattpeterson6286
      @wyattpeterson6286 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheSpectacledSteve Oh.

  • @bami2
    @bami2 3 роки тому +391

    In a couple of weeks: Chinese Warlord Pistols: Shanxi 20mm autocannon broomhandle
    For when you want to conceal-carry a gun with anti-aircraft properties.

    • @twestgard2
      @twestgard2 3 роки тому +9

      You know someday we are going to hear about some fudd shooting himself in the balls by waistband carrying that.

    • @TheWolfsnack
      @TheWolfsnack 3 роки тому +5

      ...and thousand meter accuracy...

    • @crtikal1937
      @crtikal1937 3 роки тому +11

      Didn't only broke your wrist but your ribcage as well

  • @eg5443
    @eg5443 3 роки тому +1364

    I'm waiting for Ian to find higher calibre versions of the Mauser until he stumbles on a Chinese copy chambered in .50 BMG.

    • @joshuabessire9169
      @joshuabessire9169 3 роки тому +93

      So Ian, where's the type 50?

    • @ComradeBenedict
      @ComradeBenedict 3 роки тому +125

      Broomhandle chambered in 40mm Bofors when?

    • @Shadow_Hawk_Streaming
      @Shadow_Hawk_Streaming 3 роки тому +29

      Honestly if they loved it so much I'm surprised none were made in a more potent revolver cartriges or a stocked variant as a horse carbine

    • @foureye7058
      @foureye7058 3 роки тому +28

      I'd need to poke aroumd, but there are photos of a craft produced PA Luty in 50 BMG.

    • @LUR1FAX
      @LUR1FAX 3 роки тому +5

      .50 GI Broomhandle when?

  • @GuardianOfTheHeaven
    @GuardianOfTheHeaven 3 роки тому +508

    "The Japanese call it bandit shooting, and used to fear it."
    This is the variant of C96 pistol used by EVA in MGS3. C96 pistols is already a personal favorite, but the kinds chambered for .45ACP must have been packing quite some punch indeed.

    • @MalikCarr
      @MalikCarr 3 роки тому +47

      I thought it might have been just a little too convenient that EVA was able to turn one of those up. It's not entirely unreasonable to be able to get such a weapon considering MGS3 took place fairly far in the eastern Soviet Union, but hey, it uses the same ammo as BB's 1911? So we don't have to add a third type of pistol ammo to the game? Huzzah!

    • @cosmiceyness
      @cosmiceyness 3 роки тому +11

      i always loved the c96 after watching “The Great Silence” that thing was badass

    • @Rambo_fromage
      @Rambo_fromage 3 роки тому +45

      @@MalikCarr SPOILER She's a chinese spy so it's legit

    • @austinkeown7263
      @austinkeown7263 3 роки тому +6

      "Mauser military..... " -hits cigar-

    • @fowlergaming5140
      @fowlergaming5140 3 роки тому +26

      @@Rambo_fromage exactly. It was supposed to be a hint or tell, more or less.

  • @VeraTR909
    @VeraTR909 3 роки тому +445

    Looks like a decent pistol, the Chinese weren't wrong about the c96 being awesome.
    The hammer lock-open function seems like a good idea.

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs 3 роки тому +37

      It was something of a waste, though, since putting the magazine in front of the trigger leaves room for even more powerful cartridges. Someone should really make a pistol with that design, but chambered for, like, 5.56mm...and maybe give it a detachable box magazine...make it gas-operated...maybe make it modular, so you can change calibers...
      I think it would be really popular with Americans.

    • @VeraTR909
      @VeraTR909 3 роки тому +22

      @@Bacteriophagebs A modern, large calibre, 'mag in front of trigger' pistol would be cool yeah.
      *AR pistols are a thing of course.

    • @tenofprime
      @tenofprime 3 роки тому +16

      @@Bacteriophagebs it would most likely be classed as a fully simi automatic assault weapon.

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs 3 роки тому +10

      @@VeraTR909 That was the joke.

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait 3 роки тому +6

      Seems like a fun case for a long cartridge like 30 carbine.

  • @acorgiwithacrown467
    @acorgiwithacrown467 3 роки тому +292

    They should have called it the "Boomhandle"

    • @christian12gauge68
      @christian12gauge68 3 роки тому +17

      Underrated comment

    • @CalamityCain
      @CalamityCain 3 роки тому +10

      I call my wife's right hand the "Groomhandle"

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 роки тому +6

      Someone further up the comments (who's apparently Chinese) said the literal translation of the slang name for it is "long bore box cannon". I think that fits perfectly! :P

    • @broomhwauser3380
      @broomhwauser3380 3 роки тому +1

      No because my name is broom

    • @thepancakemann
      @thepancakemann 2 роки тому

      @@CalamityCain hah

  • @untermench3502
    @untermench3502 3 роки тому +146

    I've handled one of these. I knew a CIA staff who served in Laos. He was friends with one of the royalist officers who gave him access to their armory. They had saved weapons going back to the 19th Century. He had a couple of variants acquired from that source.

  • @bigsolidboss781
    @bigsolidboss781 3 роки тому +332

    Usually referred to as 大眼盒子 back then in China, which literall means large bore box cannon.

    • @fuuryuuSKK
      @fuuryuuSKK 3 роки тому +71

      soooo, a big iron basically?

    • @yulinfu860
      @yulinfu860 3 роки тому +48

      Another common way of calling it is"盒子炮" which means a cannon in the box.

    • @StevieB8363
      @StevieB8363 3 роки тому +25

      Sounds like the perfect weapon for "Thunder-Studded Battle Pits!"

    • @user-hl2ly5tr2i
      @user-hl2ly5tr2i 3 роки тому +2

      这枪现在很罕见啊

    • @mikehoare6093
      @mikehoare6093 3 роки тому +2

      i thought that would mean egg fried rice !

  • @Blu3_Thingy
    @Blu3_Thingy 3 роки тому +67

    Thank you for this video. My dad always told me my grandfather fought the Japanese during WW2, then during the warlord era of China and into the Chinese civil war, and the Chinese type 17 was his side arm he kept with him at all times.

    • @rayray6490
      @rayray6490 Рік тому

      @@justforever96maybe his dad was a poor historian

  • @BohemianFish
    @BohemianFish 3 роки тому +363

    "Who are the patriots?"

    • @fredflintstone5108
      @fredflintstone5108 3 роки тому +61

      La Li Lu Le Lo

    • @panfriedmarmot
      @panfriedmarmot 3 роки тому +34

      La Li Lu Le Lo

    • @nooblangpoo
      @nooblangpoo 3 роки тому +25

      La Li Lu Le Lo

    • @LUR1FAX
      @LUR1FAX 3 роки тому +43

      "Get down!" *Holds gun sideways, mowing down Spetsnaz soldiers with a horizontal sweep*

    • @robertjensen1438
      @robertjensen1438 3 роки тому +14

      The left typically calls them racists or white supremacists.

  • @minuit242
    @minuit242 3 роки тому +88

    "they couldn't go on the internet and read reviews" - Sorry Ian, but I'm gonna need a citation for this.

    • @kohinarec6580
      @kohinarec6580 3 роки тому +2

      Come on, it's common knowledge that the Internet was launched in 2005, duh!!

    • @brianmccarthy5557
      @brianmccarthy5557 3 роки тому +1

      I was using a primitive version of the Internet based on the old PROFS office system in the 1980's at McDonnell Douglas. Obviously I wasn't the first or only one. Never did hook it up to China, as far as I know, though it would have been useful for our reps there.
      Of course we all know Al Gore invented the Internet, right after he invented the Al Gore Rythm. I'm darn sure Joe Biden was involved, when they were both starting in politics about 120 years ago, according to Old Joe. No two fisted pony soldier dares contradict him! Hey man!!

    • @thesmallestminorityisthein4045
      @thesmallestminorityisthein4045 3 роки тому +15

      "Microsoft word wouldve made this book easier"-Sun Tzu

    • @Ghelasin
      @Ghelasin 3 роки тому +6

      @@thesmallestminorityisthein4045 Everyone knows Sun Tzu was an Open Office man.

    • @vizualvoice
      @vizualvoice 4 місяці тому

      It’s pretty obvious since Al Gore wasn’t born yet

  • @LUR1FAX
    @LUR1FAX 3 роки тому +142

    "It's a Chinese Type 17 pistol. It packs quite a punch. Nice to have on a bike"
    "You held it sideways, and used the muzzle climb to create a horizontal sweep. That was impressive"

    • @GuardianOfTheHeaven
      @GuardianOfTheHeaven 3 роки тому +30

      Adding to this quote: "The Japanese call it bandit shooting, and used to fear it."

    • @brantgarratt9873
      @brantgarratt9873 3 роки тому +16

      Bet you've never seen that technique in the west

    • @Simpin4Holo
      @Simpin4Holo 3 роки тому +4

      was looking for this comment

    • @tlshortyshorty5810
      @tlshortyshorty5810 3 роки тому +10

      *takes drag from cigar*

    • @LUR1FAX
      @LUR1FAX Рік тому +9

      @@GuardianOfTheHeaven "Makes you wonder where she learned to shoot like that"

  • @garyliang2462
    @garyliang2462 3 роки тому +41

    I love how Ian shows his respect and admiration to that part of Chinese history and these pistols certainly have their beauty in a mysterious way.

  • @gregorypaulbox3035
    @gregorypaulbox3035 3 роки тому +57

    I never knew I needed a book of Chinese domestic pistols until Ian decided to write and publish one!

  • @lordofonion-rings9426
    @lordofonion-rings9426 3 роки тому +491

    The Governor, Yan Xi-Shan, deliberately set up the railway system (rails) to be different from the rest of the country so that no large number of troops from other warlord cannot enter the province and takeover. The province is surrounded by mountains and very reclusive in that way, especially back then. With high mountains and canyons, only 3 ways to enter it by foot through the wild, as it's all forest in the south and desert northwest. To give an example, my city has only just had high speed train-line set up last year, before that, to travel from Beijing to it, will take 12-14 hours by standard train.
    In history, the province has always been able to stay away from war due to geographical advantages. With ample natural resources (coal, iron ore, etc), Yan was able to build his army to defend and stayed away from most of the warlord conflicts during WW1, and a short period of time from Japanese force in WW2.

  • @jameshenderson4876
    @jameshenderson4876 3 роки тому +60

    Thoroughly enjoying this warlord pistols series. My Master's dissertation back in 1988 was on Feng Yuxiang and the warlord period. Brings it all back :)

    • @brianmccarthy5557
      @brianmccarthy5557 3 роки тому +9

      Wasn't he the Christian Warlord? Very tall, big guy with a beard who often wore what looked like a cowboy hat?

    • @jameshenderson4876
      @jameshenderson4876 3 роки тому +2

      @@brianmccarthy5557 That was him.

    • @praveenb9048
      @praveenb9048 2 роки тому +1

      From wikipedia: He was reputed to have liked baptizing his troops with a fire hose.

  • @calthepeacelovingclover5935
    @calthepeacelovingclover5935 3 роки тому +46

    No one:
    Eva: *Points pistol sideways to shoot enemies lined up next to each-other, using the recoil to aim at the next target quickly.*

    • @gormanls
      @gormanls 3 роки тому +1

      Bet you've never seen that technique in the west...

    • @calthepeacelovingclover5935
      @calthepeacelovingclover5935 3 роки тому +3

      @@gormanls I've seen it on Metal Gear Solid 3. But not in real life no. The warlords sure were like wild west cowboys except its the wild east! They got my respect for joining up with The Republic Of China to fight their common enemy the Imperial Japanese.

    • @StevenHeins
      @StevenHeins 6 місяців тому

      My grandfather used to claim that was how they were taught in the Navy to shoot a Thompson....

  • @susanbutler2498
    @susanbutler2498 3 роки тому +11

    "Pistols of the Warlords" LITERALLY a Dream Book breaking into my Reality!!!!
    Bloody Fascinating Era, People and Weapons.

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 3 роки тому +34

    Given that _actual_ Thompsons operate on a mechanical principle (the Blish effect) that turns out to have been completely fictional, one hesitates to imagine what an experience a Chinese Mystery Thompson must have been.

    • @clothar23
      @clothar23 3 роки тому +2

      I mean the Japanese only got like what 300 klicks into China during WW2 so it couldn't have been all that bad.

    • @douglaspurcell4192
      @douglaspurcell4192 2 роки тому +1

      It probably shot like the streamlined Thompson without the blish crap in it.

    • @clothar23
      @clothar23 Рік тому +3

      @@justforever96 No I think any Chinese success during WW2 was entirely up to the incompetence and infighting of the Japanese Armed Forces. Each service branch was high on its own crap and busy fighting each other for resources.
      That being said having better gear ain't exactly a non factor mate. After all I would rather have a automatic smg in my hand than a Type 99 rifle...And I own four Type 99 rifles , one of them the Long with an inact flower I paid a ridiculous price for.

  • @Ni999
    @Ni999 3 роки тому +192

    Today's video supported by Fireplace Guy's neighbor, Rustic Wood Wall Guy.

    • @lightweight1974
      @lightweight1974 3 роки тому +6

      Maybe it's the same guy? Gotta have an awesome room to go with the fireplace room.

    • @Ni999
      @Ni999 3 роки тому +1

      @@lightweight1974 Maybe it's never been one guy.

    • @phil1606
      @phil1606 3 роки тому +4

      it's a green screen... keep dreaming!

    • @Ni999
      @Ni999 3 роки тому

      @@phil1606 Nothing gets past you.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 роки тому

      @@phil1606 Nope. Ian commented on it in one of the episodes where the breeze was catching it a little. It's a makeshift backdrop.

  • @Schrodingers_kid
    @Schrodingers_kid 3 роки тому +28

    My great grandpa had one.
    He was soldier from USSR side in China and he picked up such pistol from one of the bodies as trophy.
    My dad told me that great grandpa told stories how Chinese would fall to the ground and never move again after being hit and he used to say that this is very accurate gun "Bullet goes right where you aim"
    ED:My dad corrected me.Great grandpa was HELPING CHINESE in war against JAPANESE.
    +Pistol was lost when he tried to get back home in 1948,on the border

    • @comediangj4955
      @comediangj4955 3 роки тому

      What era was it? Why was he in China?

    • @Schrodingers_kid
      @Schrodingers_kid 3 роки тому +8

      @@comediangj4955 WWII
      He was there because of war :/
      Almost illegally,btw
      He lied about his age and was soldier for a year and only then people found out that he was 2 years younger and commander said to send him back home,but Germans already were in Ukraine and city he was from,so they had no other choice than leaving him with them + he already was soldier for a year and had experience

    • @dukeofburgundy4229
      @dukeofburgundy4229 3 роки тому

      What happened to it?

    • @hairymcnipples
      @hairymcnipples 3 роки тому

      ...why would a Soviet soldier be shooting Chinese people in WWII, the Chinese were aligned with the allies.

    • @jinyuliu2871
      @jinyuliu2871 3 роки тому +2

      ​@@hairymcnipples Northeastern China (Manchuria) was still occupied by the Japanese at that time and they have some Chinese collaborationist forces fighting for them. Probably one of them got shot when the Soviets invaded.

  • @TheMandalp
    @TheMandalp 3 роки тому +73

    i hear the Chinese use these Guns in the inversion of Alaska in the 2070s

    • @davidbrennan660
      @davidbrennan660 3 роки тому +8

      Ian will cover those given time, have no fear.

    • @teter1096
      @teter1096 3 роки тому +2

      I heard it won't end well for them either. Tbh I hadn't made the historical connection until.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie 3 роки тому +3

      @@teter1096 It's an interesting thought exercise. I suspect people who don't live here don't truly grasp the enormity of trying to subdue a dispersed population which is heavily armed and accustomed to living off the land/sea/rivers. Roads are few and most of them are easily blocked with landslides. I'd hate to be the engineer trying to clear a road for tanks while locals took shots at me. Fun fact: Alaska Natives serve in the armed forces at a higher rate per population than any other demographic. You don't want a bunch of guys/girls who can live on berries and caribou and fought in Afghanistan hunting you. It makes for some interesting speculative fiction stories. As a tangent, read Tom Brennan's novel The Snowflake Rebellion. It's a good look into the frustrations of Alaskans with the federal government and how things might have gone very differently.

    • @teter1096
      @teter1096 3 роки тому +3

      @@itsapittie I've been up to AK a couple of times. Once in summer once in September. It really left me with the impression of "oh these folks are Americans for convenience". Almost a different country up there. Also not to mention the Alaskan Airforce uses mosquitos thr size of VW Bugs for close air support in the summer. Come to think of it theres enough individually licensed plane owning people in AK you really only need the state bird in the Air Reserves.
      Edit: I dont know if you realize this, but we are referencing fallout 3 here.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie 3 роки тому +1

      @@teter1096 "Americans of convenience" 🤣🤣🤣 There's probably some truth in that. I don't know anything about the Fallout games but invasion of Alaska has been the subject of several stories. As I said, it's an interesting thought exercise, similar to invasion of the contiguous states but with some unique twists.

  • @liltigris4335
    @liltigris4335 3 роки тому +32

    You know it's kinda badass to have a Mauser pistol that shoots .45 ACP.

    • @Schrodingers_kid
      @Schrodingers_kid 3 роки тому +2

      It's also OP

    • @classicnestetris3268
      @classicnestetris3268 3 роки тому +10

      I want one so bad just for shits and giggles

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому +4

      @@classicnestetris3268 you and me both.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 роки тому +2

      @@classicnestetris3268 It's not exactly shits and giggles if you actually point it at something lesser than a foot of solid concrete wall :P

    • @jakeblanton6853
      @jakeblanton6853 3 роки тому +1

      If they made a modern version that could headspace on the extractor and chambered in .45WinMag so that it could also chamber .45ACP and .460 Rowland, plus used a detachable magazine, you might find a lot of people interested in it... If the barrel was made so that it could be easily swapped, then switching to a 16" barrel and the buttstock would make for an acceptable hunting rifle for a lot of locations...

  • @dphalanx7465
    @dphalanx7465 2 роки тому +8

    First saw this gun in a comic book of the 1980's "Jon Sable, Freelance." The main character, who was a bounty hunter & mercenary, had rebuilt one of these with a German Schnellfeuer action, creating a 45-cal machine-pistol!

    • @dphalanx7465
      @dphalanx7465 Рік тому

      @@justforever96 It's not. If I wanted a 45-cal autoweapon; I'd take the Grease Gun. But if I wanted an iconic weapon with a high "cool factor," that's my choice.

  • @enricopaolocoronado2511
    @enricopaolocoronado2511 3 роки тому +443

    Seeing this gun makes me want to ride a motorcycle through a Russian forest and fire at soldiers Bandit-Style.

    • @luxmid7486
      @luxmid7486 3 роки тому +16

      i have never heard of this weapon until now but now i feel everyone should be given one for free

    • @calanon534
      @calanon534 3 роки тому +52

      Came here to say this, beaten to the punch, not disappointed, will eat tree frog for lunch.

    • @johnnicholson7090
      @johnnicholson7090 3 роки тому +32

      Who are the patriots!?

    • @CallOfCutie69
      @CallOfCutie69 3 роки тому +14

      And relieve a reptile of its virginity?

    • @healingvisioner1
      @healingvisioner1 3 роки тому +2

      Out here, even THAT is hard to come by

  • @autofox1744
    @autofox1744 3 роки тому +11

    This is pretty much the gun that got me into weird firearms, and also Warlord-era China. Fascinating stuff! Yan Xisan was quite the character, too.

  • @magoid
    @magoid 3 роки тому +88

    The Chinese were fond on the C96 because they knew that, with one of those, they will shoot first.

  • @kfeltenberger
    @kfeltenberger 3 роки тому +26

    Ever since I read the Mike Grell comic, "Jon Sable, Freelance", back in the 1980s, I've wanted one of these. Well, one of these and a SxS .375H&H Mag.

  • @simonrook5743
    @simonrook5743 3 роки тому +11

    The 7.63 Mauser cartridge has a muzzle energy of circa 402 ft.lbf which places it broadly in the middle of the range of common .45 ACP cartridges at that ime, so not really surprising it doesn’t take much to upgrade it to .45. It’s only the modern ammo that gets much over about 450.

  • @keithallardice6139
    @keithallardice6139 3 роки тому +22

    Fantastic looking pistol and I think the hammer "lock-open" idea is first rate, would certainly have saved some poor sod's fingers lol
    .45 ACP Mausers eh? Who'd a thunk it?!?

  • @scottmaddow7879
    @scottmaddow7879 3 роки тому +12

    I remember seeing bv these show up in a Gun World magazine advertisement in the 80's.

  • @erwintatp
    @erwintatp 3 роки тому +3

    That one with serial number 13 is the only known surviving Type 17 that was actually made in year 17 (1928 A.D.). Before this video, for years it had been only shown as pictures in an obscure book. Extremely rare find.

  • @snappers_antique_firearms
    @snappers_antique_firearms 3 роки тому +8

    A good friend of mine has one of these. I shot it for the first time a couple weeks ago. It was unbelievably accurate. His was probably the most accurate pistol, I've ever shot in my life. and a joy to shoot

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому +1

      Color me *very* jealous!

    • @snappers_antique_firearms
      @snappers_antique_firearms 3 роки тому +4

      @@ScottKenny1978 trust me after I shot it. I wish I owned it. If you ever get the chance to own one its worth the money.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому

      @@snappers_antique_firearms definitely on my list to own.

  • @thereve
    @thereve 3 роки тому +14

    Just a thought - It'd be interesting to see some discussion about the different manufacturing methods and equipment that these armories would have used over the years.

  • @bobjones5674
    @bobjones5674 Рік тому +2

    9:21 1000 meters with a subsonic cartridge. Now THAT is optimism!

  • @devinwilson5162
    @devinwilson5162 3 роки тому +17

    Imagine getting shot by a 45 in China and u think they have either 1911s or some weird 45 acp pistol and it turns out they just have these big fellas

    • @totallylegalshit7579
      @totallylegalshit7579 3 роки тому +6

      I imagine getting shot witha. 45, you probably wouldn't get to wonder very much,for very long.

  • @austinkeown7263
    @austinkeown7263 3 роки тому +5

    I was really hopeing for the Metal Gear comments...
    Was not disappointed

  • @MickGallJr
    @MickGallJr 3 роки тому +1

    Finally! Ian Did It. I've been in love with this Hand Cannon since I was a teenager and I want one so much.

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette4422 3 роки тому +30

    IF you played Fallout 3 you'll recall that there is something called a Chinese Officers pistol ( I think ) And it looks exactly like a Mauser C-96 even though the setting of the WW3 is almost 200 years after the c-96 was invented thats how popular the "Broom Handle" Mauser C-96 was in China lol
    and if I recall they even say its based on the type 17 Shanxi pistol based on the C-96

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 3 роки тому +3

      Ceremonial and honor guards in today's PRC still occasionally carry the .45 Broomhandles. On certain important days for the CCP, the guards of the Maosoleum would cosplay in old Red Army uniforms geared up with these guns.

    • @goforbroke4428
      @goforbroke4428 3 роки тому +1

      @@andrewsuryali8540 not really cosplay, that was just the uniform of the day.

    • @jrggrop
      @jrggrop 3 роки тому +1

      The Chinese liked the C96 so much the PLA ordered a new version into production as late as the 80s.

    • @goforbroke4428
      @goforbroke4428 3 роки тому

      @@jrggrop as a sub machine gun like the scorpion.

    • @fckgooogle1000x
      @fckgooogle1000x 3 роки тому

      Ah yes, the Chinese Shanxi 10mm. Shame it had crap stats in game.

  • @stevestoll3124
    @stevestoll3124 3 роки тому +6

    They fire smoothly, there is some muzzle flip.

  • @austinhughes6852
    @austinhughes6852 3 роки тому +15

    A Mauser Broomhandle C96 in 45 acp.Doesn’t sound like a bad idea.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 роки тому

      I'd be really worried every time the bolt comes halfway out the back end like that... 45ACP is not exactly a pea on a fire cracker...

    • @clothar23
      @clothar23 3 роки тому

      An Imperialistic German pistol chambered in a Republican American cartridge...sounds like a very odd combo to me.

  • @vince_nevermind1159
    @vince_nevermind1159 3 роки тому +3

    I love this gun since MGS3, it's good to finaly learn more about it !

  • @fender_ketchup
    @fender_ketchup 3 роки тому +4

    "you held it sideways, and used the muzzle jump to create a horizontal sweep. That was impressive"

  • @solidsnake4167
    @solidsnake4167 3 роки тому

    Very informative! Thank you Ian

  • @sharpkniveinlatvian1746
    @sharpkniveinlatvian1746 3 роки тому +10

    Warlord Era firearms are really funky yet really cool imo!

  • @paulrobbins4879
    @paulrobbins4879 3 роки тому +3

    I had heard of this gun before, I was really looking forward to Ian talking about it.

  • @aoyawang3890
    @aoyawang3890 Рік тому +2

    Hearing Ian saying Shanxi(山西) using only the English pronounciation is yet another entertaining element for this already outstanding video. XD

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 Рік тому +1

      Was he close, at least?

    • @aoyawang3890
      @aoyawang3890 Рік тому +1

      @@ianfinrir8724 He's close, but it will confuse some local people thinking he might be saying "Shuangshi" (双喜,means"double happiness") ;)

  • @seanflorian4653
    @seanflorian4653 3 роки тому

    Love the backdrop Ian. Keep up the good work

  • @xiaochen6426
    @xiaochen6426 3 роки тому +37

    Shanxi's warlord Yan Xishan had a nickname :Yan Lao Xi er, which means he behaved like a stingy businessman. He put many efforts in producing good quality weapons and using them as his bargaining chips with other warlords. As a result, he was able to rule Shanxi province form 1912 to 1949.

    • @powereater
      @powereater 3 роки тому +2

      @Lrony Yeo he collaborated with the Japanese from time to time, especially near the end when the PLA closed in on Taiyuan

    • @xiaochen6426
      @xiaochen6426 3 роки тому +4

      @Lrony Yeo retreated to Taiwan province and died there

    • @gerrymandarin6388
      @gerrymandarin6388 3 роки тому +5

      @@xiaochen6426 Taiwan is not a province, it's a country. Get your facts straight buddy.

    • @xiaochen6426
      @xiaochen6426 3 роки тому +1

      @@gerrymandarin6388 don't want to continue this meaningless argument, but talking about fact, Chen Cheng was the Governor of Taiwan Province when Yan retreated to Taiwan Province.

    • @gerrymandarin6388
      @gerrymandarin6388 3 роки тому +3

      @@xiaochen6426 There's nothing meaningless about facts.
      Taiwan is a sovereign and independent nation and is NOT a part of China. That is a fact.

  • @danielg9227
    @danielg9227 3 роки тому

    The quality of the video and the background are stunning! Nice improvement!

  • @atomic_wait
    @atomic_wait 3 роки тому +1

    Gotta say I like the look of that 'seal script' engraving above the grips. Pretty rad.

  • @CarlVolt
    @CarlVolt 3 роки тому +14

    IM STIIIILLL INNNN A DREEEEAMMMM

  • @GeronKizan
    @GeronKizan 3 роки тому +25

    Her mentioning it was a Chinese copy was a clue, Snake.

  • @passbyicecube
    @passbyicecube 3 роки тому +1

    There's something really sexy about these guns, love how it's performance in 'Let the bullet fly'.

  • @BeefyRider
    @BeefyRider 3 роки тому +3

    I've been looking forward to this.

  • @darvinclement3250
    @darvinclement3250 3 роки тому

    Such a cool pistol. Love all the machining.

  • @khps0413
    @khps0413 3 роки тому +11

    During the Warlords era, only Shanxi clique made a large number of submachine guns.
    There were some interesting improvements to the Yan Xishan's Thompson compared to American original.
    Firstly, the barrel was longer.
    Yan Xishan believed that the defence of Shanxi was all about mountain warfare.
    In mountain warfare, the enemy and friendly were often far away and men could not march quickly enough to get to them. Therefore, the light machine gun seemed to be more useful than the submachine gun. However, the range of the light machine gun was so long that in many battles it was unnecessary and overpowered and the light machine gun was too heavy for the mountainous terrain where the emphasis was on mobility.
    Therefore, Yan Xishan made the barrel of the Thompson submachine gun longer in order to increase its range and make it suitable for mountain warfare.
    Secondly, it could be fitted with a bipod.
    In the opinion of Yan Xishan, the submachine gun was often the mainstay of firepower in mountain warfare and was more practical than the light machine gun. However, the biggest problem with the submachine gun was that it was less accurate in sustained fire, as it often took dozens of rounds to hit a single shot. So, Yan Xishan fitted some of the submachine guns with bipods, hoping it could greatly improving the accuracy and stability.
    Thirdly, the drum was not used.
    This was mainly because Chinese had weaker arms and the use of Thompson's large drums severely affected the stability of the pistol's fire. This is why all of the Shanxi's Thompson were designed with straight magazines.

    • @daniellewis1789
      @daniellewis1789 3 роки тому +2

      I assume it would also be easier to produce and maintain the simpler, lighter stick magazines, as well as having better weight for a given number of rounds carried and being easier to pack.
      If you don't need the high capacity between reloading of a drum, stick magazines make good sense for many reasons and it sounds like they had that figured out quickly.

  • @FightCain
    @FightCain 3 роки тому +23

    Id like a video about “bandit shooting”
    Also love all these MGS3 references in the comments

  • @ST-lo6fm
    @ST-lo6fm 3 роки тому

    Super intuitive.,thanks Ian

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 3 роки тому

    Thank you , Ian .

  • @countersphere2924
    @countersphere2924 3 роки тому +8

    My fav pistol in Fallout 3 🤧

  • @comiketiger
    @comiketiger 3 роки тому

    Very interesting! I've known nothing about these. Thanks Mr. Ian. 😀
    God bless all here.

  • @Psiberzerker
    @Psiberzerker 3 роки тому

    I've been waiting for this one!

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 3 роки тому

    These are just plain AWESOME! The C96 itself is an incredible pistol. The looks of a C96 suggest it isn't going to be comfortable but once you pick one up it actually feels really good in the hand.

  • @tenlittleindians
    @tenlittleindians Рік тому +1

    With the upgraded versions of the AR rifle platform that no longer need a buffer tube it's only a matter of time before we see modern production runs of handguns modeled in even larger calibers such as .50 Beowulf.
    I think Olympic Arms may have been the first without the tube in the back but Brownells now has their tubeless design and Mark Surbu is currently working on his version of a tubeless. There's a few others out there as well.

  • @mlarson
    @mlarson 3 роки тому +1

    This pistol is the top of my list, it's too cool

  • @dashsocur
    @dashsocur 3 роки тому +1

    I'll admit, I was quite intrigued by this one. Then you got to "and has a price point to match" and just like that I saw my dreams of owning one vanish into thin air. It seems I'm not the only one that finds it to be an interesting piece, lol. Thanks for sharing regardless. :)

  • @JackY-pu5nh
    @JackY-pu5nh Рік тому +1

    晋造十七年式,Shansi made Type 17. We sometimes call it 大眼盒子 (big eye box) due to its larger calibrate. I’ve seen some in local museum here in China.

  • @aaronwalker1347
    @aaronwalker1347 3 роки тому

    That is very cool. Great video thanks

  • @iobey
    @iobey 3 роки тому +6

    Hey Ian, when are you going to use one of these bad boys in a competition? Looks great for me.

  • @MuscleFlexPro
    @MuscleFlexPro 3 роки тому

    Good work brother

  • @alohm
    @alohm 3 роки тому +85

    Pronounced like 'Sean-She'(shaun-she). Like Sean Connery in Zardoz.

    • @caidurkan2916
      @caidurkan2916 3 роки тому +8

      The Gun is Good.

    • @aiayou
      @aiayou 3 роки тому +2

      No it’s not.

    • @Alex-zg2xi
      @Alex-zg2xi 3 роки тому

      山西 shanxi, shaun shee

    • @caidurkan2916
      @caidurkan2916 3 роки тому +3

      @@aiayou The Penis is Evil.

    • @nothingtodowiththat
      @nothingtodowiththat 3 роки тому

      The pronunciation of Shān (山 - mountains or hills) is closer to how a native English speaker might say, well, shan, with a short vowel sound, as in "shan't", and not really at all like "Sean" as in Sean Connery. Xī (西 -west) is quite similar to the English pronoun she. Both with a high, flat tone.

  • @kowalski363
    @kowalski363 3 роки тому

    Great video

  • @vchalmel
    @vchalmel 3 роки тому +6

    "Yes that's a .45 ACP Broomhandle in my pocket and yes I'm indeed happy to see you."

    • @DavidCowie2022
      @DavidCowie2022 3 роки тому

      I'm happy to see your .45 ACP Broomhandle.

    • @CalamityCain
      @CalamityCain 3 роки тому

      Damn ... they never ask to see my Astra CUB pocket pistol, even though it's such a quaint li'l classic ;(

  • @dascoop6018
    @dascoop6018 3 роки тому

    Those look amazing.

  • @chrissanchez9935
    @chrissanchez9935 3 роки тому

    Thank You.

  • @bazookallamaproductions5280
    @bazookallamaproductions5280 3 роки тому +18

    YOOOOO ITS THE FALLOUT 3 GUN THAT SET SHIT ON FIRE 😂👌
    (Zhu-Rong v418)

  • @dou5689
    @dou5689 3 роки тому

    I still remember I saw Ian's video on Liveleak several years ago about a "heavy weight" version of C96 from 1900s China, I was so interested in it oh my.
    I can't afford most things on auction, but hopefully I can afford that book.

  • @stevelewis7263
    @stevelewis7263 3 роки тому +10

    It would be cool to see the .45 C-96 in action on the range

    • @GundamReviver
      @GundamReviver 3 роки тому

      Especially fired sideways in an arc :p

  • @stephenbinion6348
    @stephenbinion6348 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve handled a Chinese made Thompson clone. The guy was a Marine in China pre war and had it and knee mortar. When he passed he left them to the USMC museum in Quantico.
    Maybe Ian could ask to see it.

  • @weirdsciencethe2nd205
    @weirdsciencethe2nd205 3 роки тому

    That's a piece love it that loaded with some lehigh defence p,plus soft points would be a frekin cannon that's genuinely the best Chinese pistol I've seen modern Chinese stuffs brilliant norico make fantastic barrels I used a Chinese built rifle and won the 25m open club competition with a remington 700 copy in. 22

  • @user-cl2tc5kd8k
    @user-cl2tc5kd8k 3 роки тому +2

    The original C96 can also be loaded with loose rounds without holding the bolt by hand, there is a second bolt position for this. While watching a different videos with reviews of the Mauser C96, I saw this lock-open function several times. For example, in the video of Hickok45, when he loads the pistol with loose rounds, it is clearly seen that he pulls the bolt to the second position and it does not close. Also on Hickok's video "Mauser C96 Woods Walk" from the 3rd minute it is clearly visible that after emptying the magazine, he pulls the open bolt a little further, loads the weapon from the stripper clip, and after removing the clip, the bolt remains in the open position. Again at 5: 13 when he had a malfunction. In his review of this pistol, he says that he did little research and that this particular GERMAN C96 was produced between 1911 and 1915.

  • @d.l.horton2093
    @d.l.horton2093 4 місяці тому

    I remember this gun in the game Metal Gear Solid, Snake Eater. The girl hero used it and it was rare even then. She would shoot it sideways to ride the recoil sideways to shoot a line of bad guys very fast without worrying about recoil.

  • @crktritual
    @crktritual 3 роки тому +5

    Han Solo’s C96 was chambered in .45, that’s why it only took one shot on Greedo.

  • @davidcarr7436
    @davidcarr7436 2 роки тому

    I've been watching you since I retired 6 years ago. Don't own any firearms, since the laws in this country are too restrictive. Since lockdown I've been finding stuff I've missed over the years.
    Always amazing stuff.

  • @wes11bravo
    @wes11bravo 3 роки тому +5

    A fascinating era of Chinese history.

  • @saulalifi8262
    @saulalifi8262 3 роки тому +2

    Wow considering how much ive seen people like hikock 45 and others struggle to old the bolt back while loading, not to mention the larger caliber. Between that and the hold -open, this is a superior design to dwm's offerings.

  • @JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA
    @JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA 2 роки тому

    These look real well made too.

  • @mpchappelle
    @mpchappelle 3 роки тому +2

    Mauser Military... The "Broomhandle"

  • @siyuanzuo3750
    @siyuanzuo3750 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Ian, they also manufactured Thompsons in Shanxi, in large quantities.

  • @pat9586
    @pat9586 3 роки тому

    they are truly massive in hand

  • @hockeywarrior
    @hockeywarrior 3 роки тому +1

    Would love to see this one out at the range!

  • @TrueFork
    @TrueFork 3 роки тому

    my favorite holdout ankle carry pistol

  • @mattwilliams3456
    @mattwilliams3456 3 роки тому +1

    I remember ads for a number of these years ago when a batch was imported.

  • @Franky10207
    @Franky10207 3 роки тому

    Good job brother💓

  • @MrNexor-cj8gs
    @MrNexor-cj8gs 3 роки тому +14

    I'm sure someone has already mentioned this, but assuming it's written in Pinyin, "xi" is pronounced like the English word "she."

  • @jamesquaid2544
    @jamesquaid2544 3 роки тому

    Well done 👏

  • @avnrulz
    @avnrulz 3 роки тому +56

    So early my C96 is still chambered in 7.63 instead of 9MM.

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 3 роки тому +3

      Unless it's been re-chambered. How early? They did make 9x19mm Mausers, but not in mass production before WWI. If you do have an earlier 9mm (And it hasn't been rechambered) it might be very valuable.

    • @avnrulz8587
      @avnrulz8587 3 роки тому

      @@Psiberzerker no, it has been rechambered to 9MM. Bore sucks.

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 3 роки тому

      @@avnrulz8587 Yeesh. Way to fuck up a great gun? I love .30 Mauser, Borchardt/Luger, and Tokarev. (Not all the same calibers, but very Very similar. Some of them you can chamber newer cases in older guns, but don't, because they can't handle the pressure like Borchardt/Luger/Tokarev.) So, I admit, I'm biased AF. Okay, real quick, the Borchardt is C93. The Mauzer is C96...

    • @avnrulz8587
      @avnrulz8587 3 роки тому

      @@Psiberzerker yes, well it was rechambered when I bought it in the 1980s, I don't know about the history of the pistol specifically.

  • @yaoypl
    @yaoypl 3 роки тому +4

    Broomhandle, the most recognizable gun in China