Go to tryfum.com/WHATABOUTIT or scan the QR code and use code WHATABOUTIT to get your free FÜM Base when you order your Journey Pack today. What do you think? Was this to save time, or maybe there was just some internal miscommunication, and we will see yet another engine swap and static fire on Ship 30?
Get that out of your mouth! If you have an oral fixation and there's tobacco in that, just picture a methane-based propellant exhaust in your mouth every time you want to use it!
Remember when NASA cut the budget for Dragon 2? They said they didn't need all seven seats, so they weren't willing to pay for the integration. So it just didn't get done. They said it was for "safety". Pepperidge farms remembers.
As a kid in the early 60s I remembered watching old sci fi movies from the 50s where the rockets landed on their tails. All the kids would laugh and say- that is impossible... We were so wrong.
@@fredrikcarlen3212 the moon landing. It’s just some conspiracy theorists that make up pretend reasons. It’s like flat earthers saying they’ve debunked the fact the earth is a globe. They don’t need evidence. They just say it’s debunked.
No hoovering was done by nasa in the 60s. So weak arms on motors is the only difference. That is no where near the space technology maneuver since the moon landing.
As I understand the land dispute, SpaceX bought several parcels from the company, but the contract stipulated the company could not purchase any additional land within five miles of star base. After that contract, they purchased another parcel and refused to sell. SpaceX sued for breach of contract and argued they should only have to pay what the company in breach of contract paid the original owner.
Hopefully Butch and Suni don't end up as the guy who lived at an airport for 18 years. -"Who they are -that's Butch and Suni -they got stuck here back in 2024 a couple of years before they built the space elevator."
Funny how the FAA has no problem letting a crewed capsule with known defects launch with crew to the ISS, possibly endangering it as well, but an unmanned ship landing/crashing in a sparsely populated area might be a problem.
during the starliner launch, i can only imagine those 2 listening to the news while waiting inside starliner and finding out about yet another boeing plane falling apart and being like "uhh... can we call elon instead?"
Not sure where you got the video of someone applying teflon tape to pipe threads, but they’re doing it backwards! As presented, the tape would loosen as the pipe was turned.
boeing was caught using unqualified people working on the space launch system causing major delays in the program. no reason they wouldn't do the same with starliner.
The new and recent CEO of Boeing, Kelly Ortberg, has a Mechanical Engineering degree. The previous CEO, Dave Calhoun, has a degree in accounting. Maybe Boeing is learning from its mistakes.
Catching a booster in mid flight is impossible to do. ecxept for a Rocket company called SpacX. The World was saying same thing about the Falcon 9. And look were it is now. And if the catching part fails or not, it will be spectacular.
I don't think the chopsticks are going to put the booster back on the pad. After all, it has to be removed and the pad has to be inspected because it might have been damaged during the launch. It would be a waste of time and a hazard to park the booster on the pad.
If the booster can chill after a full duration sf, it can chill after reentry & landing/catch. Would be unsafe to do anything other than let it cool down on the arms.
Here's a rocket R&D expense that few are talking about: liability. If you are going to even consider the types of returning rocket capture or landing anywhere near a population centre, it has to be demonstrated very safe and repeatable. Liability insurance is a massive expense for any business that has plans of longevity. We see the repeated dance of landing Falcon 9 boosters and have gotten quite comfortable with it. But that's done at the Cape or at sea. Recovering a Starship and booster is a whole magnitude more hazardous. Anywhere within endangering civilian or commercial infrastructure, add an exponential risk factor. So if the FAA is concerned with safety, don't be too surprised.
Please check. Starliner's automated program will only work if all 5 thrusters are working. Their computer program doesn't cover maneuvers with only 4 thrusters. Therefore, it required manual docking and will require manual reentry. They are trying to reload a computer program that will allow it to use automated program with only 4 thrusters. They don't want to loose their prototype but it requires manual reentry until new program allows automated program to work. That's why it can't disconnect from the space station and back away with it's present automated program. I would be dangerous for the space station to allow it to disconnect at this stage.
NASA did give the green light for a capsule that couldn't tolerate failure? I mean, that starliner is a death trap piece of trash - but that's beside the point. I never thought NASA would allow something that couldn't cope with the loss of 20% of its thrusters. I mean, I wouldn't. This is the kind of thing that one puts redundancies on the redundancies.
You kind of made this point, but it’s worth reiterating. The phrase “abundance of caution“ takes on different meaning for viewers of this channel that witnessed Challenger explode live in person. Love the content keep it coming.
Raptor 3 looks more like what the "simple concept" of a rocket engine sounds like when you first hear it: 1. pump fuel into chamber 2. ignite 3. profit. On the other hand, from working as an engineer, I know that making something that looks messy, but works is easier than making something that works and looks elegant and effort less. Putting in the work to make that step will almost always make you improve your product to the best version yet.
It depends, you might want more government paperwork with Boeing, sure it is a hassle but it is almost an insurance policy, it is in our interest to keep SpaceX safe and uncontentious
It’s the Gummint and Deep State wot stopped Elon landing 200 tons of cargo on Mars in 2022. The only way to fulfill the Musk delusion of a million strong self sustaining colony on Mars is to shut down FAA & NASA .
Hey.....i belive in the end of 2024, spacex will be go go go for reusing superhavy and starship and catching with megazila like a pro....thx for all updates from spacex...love from Slovenija
There are reports that Starliner could become a problem as they currently do not know how to disengage it from the ISS without a crew that has to do some work. The capsule has no automated departure system. They can not simply release it as it could bump into the ISS. So it currently blocks one of two docking ports. I hope they solve that.
The incompetence at Boeing Starline is unbelievable. They've had all this time to fix any issues and make sure the flight would go smoothly. Its not like they were rushed, or in a deadline with SpaceX.
@@gizmo8760 I guess it is an effect of the fixed price. That was a massive miscalculation but they had to deliver. So I guess at one point they decided to cut corners and be as low quality as they can. I think that showed when they needed ages to redo the insulation instead of proceeding with a second capsule to keep the timeline. I guess there will be no further Starliner missions, even if they manage to land it with a Crew.
@@gizmo8760the only reason for launching starliner when they did was to save face and it's totally backfired putting those astronauts and the iss at risk , it should be scrapped
I will come to visit starbase on September 9th for roughly 10 days... would be amazing if it could launch in this time. Just a few days of delays regarding the regulatory approvals would make it possible. Great video by the way and greetings from Germany
@@acasualviewer5861 The guy has been dissing and spewing lies about Spacex for a decade. He testified before Congress that Falcon Heavy was physically unable to have the long coast time needed to perform direct to geo, if that rocket ever mompleted development, while his Vulcan would be 40% more capable than DeltaIVHeavy and fly by 2019.
For now, I'm sure they're thrilled to have extra time in orbit (and to be alive!) but that may change if the ISS runs out of busy work for them. I'll be happy cleaning the toilets, but I'm not a highly trained specialist or space pilot.
No mention about the autonomous software that wasn't installed on Starliner? why didn't it get installed, issues with it? So now it's being installed remotely, without out the software it cannot detach from the ISS autonomously if needed. Personally, I wouldn't trust any Boeing hardware including a new airliner. They have been asleep at the wheel and riding purely on their reputation and like other companies greed has taken priority over everything else. It's time to start locking up CEO's and Board members for negligence in safety. I digress, love the channel, your personality is the driver of success! Thanks for being you!
Yes, Boeing won't change until executives GO TO JAILl. Never forget they shoved bigger engines under the 737 instead of designing a new Max airplane, told airlines it was the same plane and they wouldn't need to retrain pilots, had to add the MCAS system to prevent the unbalanced plane from stalling, and when it went wrong pilots didn't know what was happening and 346 people died.
I’m not sure it is certified. This was their final (?) certification launch. It was to show it could safely take people to the ISS and safely bring them back. It’s looking like that won’t happen.
Everytine I hear more about Star liner the theme to Gillian’s island plays in my head. Hahahaha Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale a tale of a fateful trip, that started from this tropic port, aboard this tiny ship……. Lmao
That catch animation is wrong ! They definitely won’t try to catch the booster directly above the Orbital Launch Table - they would catch it off to one side - where they normally pick the booster off of an SPMT. That way if the catch fails, then it won’t crash right into the Launch Table. That should be pretty obvious..
From the movie, "Alien": "In space no one can hear you scream" Space is not a forgiving mistrees, I think. Small mistakes can be fatal. This is not at the stage of "going out for a Sunday drive," yet, IMO. I hope the two of them enjoy their stay. They are adding numbers to the book of records, too, I think, like "longest unscheduled stay on ISS, to begin with?"
"That's impossible": Do you remember that experts said that it's impossible to land an orbital rocket propulsively? (with engines only). They said something like: 'it's physically impossible to start a rocket engine in hypersonic speed against the oncoming air pressure, that's just not possible. That would never work. And there's a reason that NASA doesn't land their rockets: Because it's impossible'. The experts said something like this and some laughed at SpaceX. Well, SpaceX tried and it works now very reliable to land the boosters of their orbital rockets. So it's just a matter of fine tuning to catch the Starship booster. That's an engineering problem, not even rocket science. So, it's doable. After they figured it out and dialed in all parameters correctly for catching, they would need a low wind, a predictable low wind or no wind. Just like for landing the Falcon9 boosters. They landed the Superheavy booster softly in the water and in the line of sight of that buoy. So, they already know how to slow down that giant booster and bring it round about where they want it to be. And I guess, they have escape maneuvers when the position would not be right, unable to correct it. They might fly out to a predeclared place in the ocean (that's what all others do with their boosters, dump them in the ocean...). And catching Starship (the upper stage) has more to it, withstand the entry heating and so on --- and then it's about the same, do a precision landing at the catch tower. ------ Oh by the way, the current tower could become a catch tower only and the new one with the flame trench could become the new launch (and catch) tower. It's just a guess. But when the new tower is so much better for launching...
@@naroe2001 I try hard to separate between Elon the engineer and Elon the person. I still admire the engineer and the technical innovations he keeps pushing, but his pushing out far right conspiracies on X and political activities is disappointing.
F 9 was crazy till it’s normal now! Go Spacex! Thanks Felix! Be wise not to complain till they are back on earth and not in control of Boeing, or be lost in space.
5:00 I saw 20 years ago where people laser etched aircraft wings with a particular pattern that initially allowed ice to form but afterwards would not allow anymore ice to accumulate. Doing that to starship would probably save quit a few tons of weight on initial launch.
I’m curious as to why Felix didn’t discuss the fact that Starliner wasn’t launched with software to allow it to land autonomously and that they have to upload the software from the ground. Seems incredibly shortsighted. Also, Felix is saying it’s not a death trap. We really don’t know that. That 1% may be enough to kill the astronauts. Maybe not, but maybe yes.
Yeah, that's the concern. It's not that it *is* a deathtrap... it's that nobody is entirely confident that it's *not*. However, a correction - it does have the software for autonomous flight, and on paper it's just a matter of configuration. The real problem is that it's disabled because it apparently hasn't been tested with the latest hardware/software changes since the previous uncrewed flight... it wasn't expected to be needed, so they just turned it off so they could cut some corners on testing. This is where SpaceX win again - *all* Dragon flights are autonomous by default, whether carrying humans or not. If there are passengers, they can take manual control, but they're not a required part of the system.
You can't take the booster and put it back on the launch pad. You have to send it back to the Garage to do NDI tests on the components to limit and reduce mechanical fail points. They do this in the US Navy on airframes every day because of the high stress on aircraft structures and equipment.
My initial reaction to the idea that the booster would be caught was total disbelief. I thought it was a fun SciFi idea that would garner a lot of publicity but then soon be replaced with some more realistic procedure. I still think it's a crazy idea. The precision required seems impossible. This is obviously something you can't afford to get wrong even once. I was 100% certain this was BS. Now I'm only 40%. I will be absolutely ASTOUNDED if it works on the first try.
The Super Heavy Booster will be able to hover for a while much like Blue Origin's New Shepard booster...so get ready to be astounded because I have a strong feeling SpaceX may well pull this off.
There is a line between "Very sure it's okay to return" and "Sure enough to put astronauts in it", and Starliner is stuck both on that line and on the station. It has enough redundancy that a few thrusters being out aren't going to cause a failure of the mission - but the question that puts them on the line is "Could more fail unexpectedly?"
I suspect block 3 Raptor engines will have the shortest life span engines. Since after the engines start returning, which is still amazing thing to say. But the soon to be named Raptor 4 engines will be redesigned to make maintenance easier for refurbishment and reuse process.
Send crew 9 up with the 7 seat configuration. Transfer the back row seats to crew 8 capsule and get them home earlier. Of course this requires jettisoning starliner to free up the parking spot
Nose cone tiling would be much easier if it had discrete cones rather than compound curves. Airflow over 15 degree angle change behaves like a continuous curve.
Crazy question --- Why aren't they doing low-altitude catch tests, Felix? Like when they did originally when testing starhopper and such... so launch the Starship with low fuel, go to 30,000 feet, come back down for the swing-and-catch maneuver with very little fuel, and less risk?
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What do you think? Was this to save time, or maybe there was just some internal miscommunication, and we will see yet another engine swap and static fire on Ship 30?
Get that out of your mouth! If you have an oral fixation and there's tobacco in that, just picture a methane-based propellant exhaust in your mouth every time you want to use it!
Disappointed you chose Füm as someone who you promote.
So of all problems companies are having in the industry their problems are paperwork’s. And procedural laws
Remember when NASA cut the budget for Dragon 2?
They said they didn't need all seven seats, so they weren't willing to pay for the integration. So it just didn't get done.
They said it was for "safety".
Pepperidge farms remembers.
Bruh, füm ?! Really
Un-subing
for some reason i read the title as starliner still sucks hahaha
@@dougkomonkeyboy8020 not untrue 😂
Nah that should have been the title honestly
Me too:)
You read it correctly 😂
@@dougkomonkeyboy8020 me too 😂
As a kid in the early 60s I remembered watching old sci fi movies from the 50s where the rockets landed on their tails. All the kids would laugh and say- that is impossible... We were so wrong.
Some of those kids grew up to be rocket scientists as NASA, and they were still laughing when SpaceX tried it the first time. And look at them now.
Single stage to the moon (or orbit) is still out of reach, though. Who’s working on “single H”?
You weren't wrong we lived in the times we were in
@@rayjay848 I am, but somehow, I'm struggling to get funding. So progress is slow. Very slow.
I've always loved how the best science fiction today, becomes the technology 20 years later.
If SpaceX really can make the catch happen...
This would be by far the craziest space technology manouvre since the moon landing.
Even thats been debunked.
@@fpvangel4495 what has been debunked?
@@fredrikcarlen3212 the moon landing. It’s just some conspiracy theorists that make up pretend reasons. It’s like flat earthers saying they’ve debunked the fact the earth is a globe. They don’t need evidence. They just say it’s debunked.
@@fpvangel4495 Can it be rebunked or is bunking like virginity...? 🤔
No hoovering was done by nasa in the 60s. So weak arms on motors is the only difference. That is no where near the space technology maneuver since the moon landing.
Saying something is impossible is probably not the best line to take, considering 10 years ago they said the same thing about landing a rocket.
I think that it is always better to say something along the lines of “X action is impossible unless Y variables satisfy the requirements”
I want actual evidence people said it was impossible to land a rocket
I want actual evidence people said it was impossible to land a rocket
@@pointmanzeroOkay, look up Seradata article: The Problems of Reusable Rockets dated 2011.
337 times and counting.
I read "Starliner still sucks ass" at first glance, which probably holds true haha
I also thought for a moment that SpaceX canceled the flight plan. Yes, that is what "drop" used to mean: cancel, rather than publish.
No joke, I thought the EXACT same thing.
Same
Lol. Me too!
Two reasons: a) There's no "is" in the title. b) Starliner does indeed suck at the moment!!!!
As I understand the land dispute, SpaceX bought several parcels from the company, but the contract stipulated the company could not purchase any additional land within five miles of star base. After that contract, they purchased another parcel and refused to sell. SpaceX sued for breach of contract and argued they should only have to pay what the company in breach of contract paid the original owner.
Starliners Butch and Sonny's overtime check is going to be awesome!
But only if they live to collect it.
Their parking meter is still running though.
"people saying its impossible should not interrupt people doing it "
Cartoons and CGI arent real, you should pinch yourself and keep repeating that.
@@fpvangel4495 Trolls ARE real tho
@@fpvangel4495bruh
@@AeroGraphica 109%
@@AeroGraphica Facts!
Hopefully Butch and Suni don't end up as the guy who lived at an airport for 18 years. -"Who they are -that's Butch and Suni -they got stuck here back in 2024 a couple of years before they built the space elevator."
The old song about the man on the subway that could never get off because he never had the right fare.
Starliner, It's not a death trap! - Now there's a tagline to inspire confidence.
That tag line could be repurposed "737 Max not a Death Trap"
@@J123G _* almost every single time_
@@J123G🤣🤣🤣
@@J123Germ the 737 max is actually deadly
The Titanic is unsinkable, A tagline that did inspire confidence , all the way up to when it sank.
Can't wait for the launch so excited
Once again the FAA is the weak link in the process.
"We have looked into our channel metr-" - Skip
@@ghost307 it is but they arent doing this for nothing so im fine with it. felix gotta eat!
Ditto
its a tactic used by people making you think you were subscribed so you actually subscribe to it 😂
I think people who bitch about nagging for subscription should try creating their own substantive content first.
470k subs plus any other platforms 😂 I don't think he cares
For SpaceX the impossible takes a while, the CrAzY takes a little longer.
For the other space agencies .... well .... they are still in 1992.
But you can order crazy in advance, I believe.
Funny how the FAA has no problem letting a crewed capsule with known defects launch with crew to the ISS, possibly endangering it as well, but an unmanned ship landing/crashing in a sparsely populated area might be a problem.
Maybe they're yanking Elon's chain for political reasons. Most of the other agencies in this administration have been politicized already.
Butch and Suni at the ISS is like a redux of Gilligan's Island, the eight day tour turning into 8 months, and nearly as comical.
Ellie in Space sings a Gilligan’s Island parody song about this.
@@richdurbin6146 that’s awesome 😂🤣😆
3 hour tour
@@dirkstair268, That’s just what the song said! Lol
I know what happened to Starliner. Boeing wrapped a pipe the wrong direction like the guy with the Teflon did at 18:31. Anyone else notice that? 🤣
I missed that the first time looking.
It was left handed threads. ?
At this rate, stuckliner will still be stuck by the time starship touches down on the moon.
during the starliner launch, i can only imagine those 2 listening to the news while waiting inside starliner and finding out about yet another boeing plane falling apart and being like "uhh... can we call elon instead?"
elon is considering starting up spaceuber.
Boeing - putting the eeeee into Boing.
Not sure where you got the video of someone applying teflon tape to pipe threads, but they’re doing it backwards! As presented, the tape would loosen as the pipe was turned.
boeing was caught using unqualified people working on the space launch system causing major delays in the program. no reason they wouldn't do the same with starliner.
@@georgegoodwin9722 stockphoto moment
Probably just the left and right transposed for video copyright purposes
@@sja45uk hmm..... good point.
@@michaelotoole1807 I am not sure as I am not actually confident which way to wrap LH and RH threads
Engineering companies must be run by engineers. That's why SpaceX is so far ahead thanks to Elon.
ULA and BO are run by engineers
The new and recent CEO of Boeing, Kelly Ortberg, has a Mechanical Engineering degree. The previous CEO, Dave Calhoun, has a degree in accounting. Maybe Boeing is learning from its mistakes.
Catching a booster in mid flight is impossible to do. ecxept for a Rocket company called SpacX. The World was saying same thing about the Falcon 9. And look were it is now. And if the catching part fails or not, it will be spectacular.
it will be spectacular! either way.
I wish they'd go another flight or two, just to be sure, before they try it. Be a helluva mess if they nuke the ground equipment.
It’s not going to be in mid-flight, it’s going to be almost at a standstill.
"Excitement guaranteed!"
Anyone else waiting to drive down to see this crazy launch?? Lets gooo!
I ride push bike weather permitting
I wish I live in the UK. :/
I would, but I refuse to give that one-star state any money.
@@uzlonewolf What?
@@uzlonewolfwell that's daft
Can't wait for Stasrhip 30 to launch!! (0:05) lol
I made a joke, before it launched, about not wanting to be the first astronauts to test a starliner... I guess my trepidation was well founded.
Startlater
I don't think the chopsticks are going to put the booster back on the pad. After all, it has to be removed and the pad has to be inspected because it might have been damaged during the launch. It would be a waste of time and a hazard to park the booster on the pad.
Yeah I definitely think it's getting out on a transport stand
@@ChristopherPeter they will put it on a transport stand
If the chopsticks can't control after launch, they may change the plan, and the booster will land in the water again like IFT-4.
@@trung06bt06 yes they can, they did it with flight 4
If the booster can chill after a full duration sf, it can chill after reentry & landing/catch. Would be unsafe to do anything other than let it cool down on the arms.
Here's a rocket R&D expense that few are talking about: liability. If you are going to even consider the types of returning rocket capture or landing anywhere near a population centre, it has to be demonstrated very safe and repeatable. Liability insurance is a massive expense for any business that has plans of longevity. We see the repeated dance of landing Falcon 9 boosters and have gotten quite comfortable with it. But that's done at the Cape or at sea. Recovering a Starship and booster is a whole magnitude more hazardous. Anywhere within endangering civilian or commercial infrastructure, add an exponential risk factor. So if the FAA is concerned with safety, don't be too surprised.
@@gregedmand9939 Not to mention all the griping there will be about the sonic booms.
Elon will be able to insure himself,
@@davefarmery8180 No he can't. No one would trust him to make billion dollar damage claims. You cannot self insure.
Insurance ruins a lot of things for people.
@gregedmand9939 yes you can if you have enough money
Please check. Starliner's automated program will only work if all 5 thrusters are working. Their computer program doesn't cover maneuvers with only 4 thrusters. Therefore, it required manual docking and will require manual reentry. They are trying to reload a computer program that will allow it to use automated program with only 4 thrusters. They don't want to loose their prototype but it requires manual reentry until new program allows automated program to work. That's why it can't disconnect from the space station and back away with it's present automated program. I would be dangerous for the space station to allow it to disconnect at this stage.
@@thomasthompson5314 send up one of Elons robots....train it to push a button...
NASA did give the green light for a capsule that couldn't tolerate failure? I mean, that starliner is a death trap piece of trash - but that's beside the point. I never thought NASA would allow something that couldn't cope with the loss of 20% of its thrusters. I mean, I wouldn't. This is the kind of thing that one puts redundancies on the redundancies.
Yikes. This sounds like the 737-MAX debacle where a lack of redundancy in the software caused the crashes of two planes...
You kind of made this point, but it’s worth reiterating. The phrase “abundance of caution“ takes on different meaning for viewers of this channel that witnessed Challenger explode live in person. Love the content keep it coming.
17:42 The classic "NORMINAL"
Raptor 3 looks more like what the "simple concept" of a rocket engine sounds like when you first hear it: 1. pump fuel into chamber 2. ignite 3. profit. On the other hand, from working as an engineer, I know that making something that looks messy, but works is easier than making something that works and looks elegant and effort less. Putting in the work to make that step will almost always make you improve your product to the best version yet.
The catch pin size makes me think the accuracy of the orientation for landing has to be way too precise and there doesn't seem to be any redundancy.
Grid Fins.
And another content rich, and super enthusiastic and enjoyable presentation. Good stuff.
The hardest part of getting to space - Government paperwork.
It sure feels that way. Lol
Move to China where boosters crash on populated areas.
It depends, you might want more government paperwork with Boeing, sure it is a hassle but it is almost an insurance policy, it is in our interest to keep SpaceX safe and uncontentious
It’s the Gummint and Deep State wot stopped Elon landing 200 tons of cargo on Mars in 2022. The only way to fulfill the Musk delusion of a million strong self sustaining colony on Mars is to shut down FAA & NASA .
I can literally repeat word for word your channel metric spiel in my head as I am skipping those portions of your video. I Love what you do!
I thought the FAA said if no incidents happen with flight 4 they would push the license through quickly
If they wouldn’t attempt a booster catch they can probably launch whenever the want to
That was for a flight 4 type flight, because there changing the flight plan to include a booster catch the faa has to approve it.
I thought that too but the zilla grab aspect of flight 5 may require FAA to certify that it's safe enough.
This IS rather quick for the FAA....
As AA just reported, there’s an environmental impact investigation under way and the FAA halted all approval work for now.
This Raptor 3 on the photo is so clean I thought it was an incomplete 3D render XD 😂
It's almost like this thing is naked to the bones 😯
Well, I suppose if you have to be stuck somewhere then the ISS is pretty cool.
Hey.....i belive in the end of 2024, spacex will be go go go for reusing superhavy and starship and catching with megazila like a pro....thx for all updates from spacex...love from Slovenija
There are reports that Starliner could become a problem as they currently do not know how to disengage it from the ISS without a crew that has to do some work. The capsule has no automated departure system. They can not simply release it as it could bump into the ISS. So it currently blocks one of two docking ports.
I hope they solve that.
The incompetence at Boeing Starline is unbelievable. They've had all this time to fix any issues and make sure the flight would go smoothly. Its not like they were rushed, or in a deadline with SpaceX.
@@gizmo8760 I guess it is an effect of the fixed price. That was a massive miscalculation but they had to deliver. So I guess at one point they decided to cut corners and be as low quality as they can.
I think that showed when they needed ages to redo the insulation instead of proceeding with a second capsule to keep the timeline.
I guess there will be no further Starliner missions, even if they manage to land it with a Crew.
@@gizmo8760the only reason for launching starliner when they did was to save face and it's totally backfired putting those astronauts and the iss at risk , it should be scrapped
I will come to visit starbase on September 9th for roughly 10 days... would be amazing if it could launch in this time. Just a few days of delays regarding the regulatory approvals would make it possible.
Great video by the way and greetings from Germany
For anyone that says its impossible, remember that a decade ago reusable rockets that land vertical were considered impossible science fiction too
the rot of boeing touches all levels of flight from commercial to space gotta love it
346 people died in two 737 MAX crashes due to cost-cutting decisions, and no senior Boeing executive in jail. Don't love it, be angry as hell.
My favorite is Gwynne Shotwell's response on X. Epic!
Yeah.. can ULA's boss be that clueless?
@@acasualviewer5861 The guy has been dissing and spewing lies about Spacex for a decade. He testified before Congress that Falcon Heavy was physically unable to have the long coast time needed to perform direct to geo, if that rocket ever mompleted development, while his Vulcan would be 40% more capable than DeltaIVHeavy and fly by 2019.
anyone else notice the STASRHIP 30 in the intro?
I can look back & proudly say "i was alive in the Elon Musk era"
Spacex: How did you solve the ice problem?
Boeing: What ice problem? Oh shi…!!
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1:22 STASRHIP 30
If successful, SpaceX will be a technology monster🙌
Will Butch and Sunhi be paid overtime at the premium rate for their extended stay on the ISS??.
For now, I'm sure they're thrilled to have extra time in orbit (and to be alive!) but that may change if the ISS runs out of busy work for them. I'll be happy cleaning the toilets, but I'm not a highly trained specialist or space pilot.
Every time I see Raptor 3, it takes my breath away a little bit.
Just incredible what can be done with 3D printing
No mention about the autonomous software that wasn't installed on Starliner? why didn't it get installed, issues with it? So now it's being installed remotely, without out the software it cannot detach from the ISS autonomously if needed. Personally, I wouldn't trust any Boeing hardware including a new airliner. They have been asleep at the wheel and riding purely on their reputation and like other companies greed has taken priority over everything else. It's time to start locking up CEO's and Board members for negligence in safety.
I digress, love the channel, your personality is the driver of success! Thanks for being you!
Yes, Boeing won't change until executives GO TO JAILl. Never forget they shoved bigger engines under the 737 instead of designing a new Max airplane, told airlines it was the same plane and they wouldn't need to retrain pilots, had to add the MCAS system to prevent the unbalanced plane from stalling, and when it went wrong pilots didn't know what was happening and 346 people died.
Wow it's been a long time since we got a 'you rock!' out of you 😅
SpaceX does the difficult right away, the impossible takes a little bit longer. When is the FAA going to pull the certification on the Starliner?
I’m not sure it is certified. This was their final (?) certification launch. It was to show it could safely take people to the ISS and safely bring them back. It’s looking like that won’t happen.
Everytine I hear more about Star liner the theme to Gillian’s island plays in my head. Hahahaha
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
a tale of a fateful trip,
that started from this tropic port,
aboard this tiny ship……. Lmao
That catch animation is wrong ! They definitely won’t try to catch the booster directly above the Orbital Launch Table - they would catch it off to one side - where they normally pick the booster off of an SPMT. That way if the catch fails, then it won’t crash right into the Launch Table.
That should be pretty obvious..
Then why did they activate the deluge system during the landing of the booster on the last flight?
Because it's going to land over the launch mount.
It's pretty obvious you are wrong.
Thanks for the update. Now I just wanna watch Galaxy Quest.
The images of the static fire of raptor v3 look like renders. Is this Just me?
So did the Starship hop test videos. That's just how cool it is.
Perfection can look like CGI.
@@uzlonewolf It is.
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…yes, just you.
From the movie, "Alien":
"In space no one can hear you scream"
Space is not a forgiving mistrees, I think.
Small mistakes can be fatal.
This is not at the stage of "going out for a Sunday drive," yet, IMO.
I hope the two of them enjoy their stay.
They are adding numbers to the book of records, too, I think, like "longest unscheduled stay on ISS, to begin with?"
While I have a lot of respect for Musks success with SpaceX, I wish he'd stay the hell out of American politics.
American or anyone else's politics. Keeps on wading in to UK politics with complete BS comments. Seems to believe his own social media platforms.
Seethe
Everyone has the right to expess his or her opinion.
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And to buy elections
Anyone with lots of money should stay out of politics.
Clooney, Bono, Penn, Bill gates, George soros, koch brothers, etc.
"That's impossible": Do you remember that experts said that it's impossible to land an orbital rocket propulsively? (with engines only).
They said something like: 'it's physically impossible to start a rocket engine in hypersonic speed against the oncoming air pressure, that's just not possible. That would never work.
And there's a reason that NASA doesn't land their rockets: Because it's impossible'.
The experts said something like this and some laughed at SpaceX.
Well, SpaceX tried and it works now very reliable to land the boosters of their orbital rockets.
So it's just a matter of fine tuning to catch the Starship booster. That's an engineering problem, not even rocket science. So, it's doable.
After they figured it out and dialed in all parameters correctly for catching, they would need a low wind, a predictable low wind or no wind. Just like for landing the Falcon9 boosters.
They landed the Superheavy booster softly in the water and in the line of sight of that buoy. So, they already know how to slow down that giant booster and bring it round about where they want it to be.
And I guess, they have escape maneuvers when the position would not be right, unable to correct it. They might fly out to a predeclared place in the ocean (that's what all others do with their boosters, dump them in the ocean...).
And catching Starship (the upper stage) has more to it, withstand the entry heating and so on --- and then it's about the same, do a precision landing at the catch tower.
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Oh by the way, the current tower could become a catch tower only and the new one with the flame trench could become the new launch (and catch) tower.
It's just a guess. But when the new tower is so much better for launching...
I'll watch with interest, but Musk has completely gone of the boil for me with his attempt to interfere in US election.
Yeah, I just ignore him being a part of spacex. All of the work is done by engineers and construction workers anyway, they are doing a great job.
@@mofik26 , me, too.
He's not trying to interfere he's just ensuring that people have all the information that's available
@@naroe2001 I try hard to separate between Elon the engineer and Elon the person. I still admire the engineer and the technical innovations he keeps pushing, but his pushing out far right conspiracies on X and political activities is disappointing.
@@naroe2001 Interfere with the election? He literally just decided to support a candidate. I fell like that’s a human right to voice your opinions.
*when people say "impossible", they are talking about their own limitations.*
F 9 was crazy till it’s normal now! Go Spacex! Thanks Felix! Be wise not to complain till they are back on earth and not in control of Boeing, or be lost in space.
I'll be happy when they catch it! That's for sure!
Thank you for all the hard work in making these excellent videos
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I saw 20 years ago where people laser etched aircraft wings with a particular pattern that initially allowed ice to form but afterwards would not allow anymore ice to accumulate. Doing that to starship would probably save quit a few tons of weight on initial launch.
That’s interesting! I’ll try to find it!
@@Whataboutit dang it now I wanna find it lol.
Boeing originally stated that Starliner could fly and return autonomously but this was not true. See report from Ellie in Space.
I’m curious as to why Felix didn’t discuss the fact that Starliner wasn’t launched with software to allow it to land autonomously and that they have to upload the software from the ground. Seems incredibly shortsighted. Also, Felix is saying it’s not a death trap. We really don’t know that. That 1% may be enough to kill the astronauts. Maybe not, but maybe yes.
Yeah, that's the concern. It's not that it *is* a deathtrap... it's that nobody is entirely confident that it's *not*.
However, a correction - it does have the software for autonomous flight, and on paper it's just a matter of configuration. The real problem is that it's disabled because it apparently hasn't been tested with the latest hardware/software changes since the previous uncrewed flight... it wasn't expected to be needed, so they just turned it off so they could cut some corners on testing.
This is where SpaceX win again - *all* Dragon flights are autonomous by default, whether carrying humans or not. If there are passengers, they can take manual control, but they're not a required part of the system.
One of those Starships would make an awesome spiral staircase for an office building!
I dont know, but i think it is somewhat of an achievement to have almost 3 million returning viewers
The teflon tape on the water pipe is being wrapped the wrong direction :)
You can't take the booster and put it back on the launch pad. You have to send it back to the Garage to do NDI tests on the components to limit and reduce mechanical fail points. They do this in the US Navy on airframes every day because of the high stress on aircraft structures and equipment.
My initial reaction to the idea that the booster would be caught was total disbelief. I thought it was a fun SciFi idea that would garner a lot of publicity but then soon be replaced with some more realistic procedure. I still think it's a crazy idea. The precision required seems impossible. This is obviously something you can't afford to get wrong even once. I was 100% certain this was BS. Now I'm only 40%. I will be absolutely ASTOUNDED if it works on the first try.
The Super Heavy Booster will be able to hover for a while much like Blue Origin's New Shepard booster...so get ready to be astounded because I have a strong feeling SpaceX may well pull this off.
So will Elon. Last I heard I think he gave it 50/50 odds.
As usual, another Great video! Keep up the good work Felix! 👍🖖
That clip from Galaxy Quest is hilarious!! They could easily be the Boeing test dummies!🤣😃
1:30 Straship 30 .
Whoohoo new prototype name exclusive!🎉
Felix! Wow, you are just SO entertaining! I love every episode! Thank you for making it so much fun to get my SpaceX update fix!
Superheavy catch might not be as hard as superheavy can hover and guide itself to the chopstick, just like helicopter.
I thought Boeing got rid of the software engineers from the 737 MAX!
I guess they are still with us on the Starliner!🤦♂
Because of that CNBC article that came out, the next flight is going to be delayed even further
That's as crazy as landing a booster on a barge in the open ocean!
butch and sunny safety is the most important thing and decision
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I will bet my Lego and action figure collection that the booster catch will be 100% successful !
Great video, but you forgot one other issue with Starliner: it seems that it does not have autopilot and needs to be manned to return to Earth.
There is a line between "Very sure it's okay to return" and "Sure enough to put astronauts in it", and Starliner is stuck both on that line and on the station. It has enough redundancy that a few thrusters being out aren't going to cause a failure of the mission - but the question that puts them on the line is "Could more fail unexpectedly?"
Elon not supporting the regime's candidate will slow down the FAA and EPA processes considerably.
Felix: "Flying darts" = throwing darts
I suspect block 3 Raptor engines will have the shortest life span engines. Since after the engines start returning, which is still amazing thing to say. But the soon to be named Raptor 4 engines will be redesigned to make maintenance easier for refurbishment and reuse process.
Never give up never surender!
If you know you know
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Epic update! Felix totally in the zone!!
Send crew 9 up with the 7 seat configuration. Transfer the back row seats to crew 8 capsule and get them home earlier. Of course this requires jettisoning starliner to free up the parking spot
Nose cone tiling would be much easier if it had discrete cones rather than compound curves. Airflow over 15 degree angle change behaves like a continuous curve.
Wouldn't it be great if Elon sold all the v1 heat tiles they've removed. I'd buy 3.
Plz put timestamps also its very helpful for us
Felix, you are killing me with laughter @ 20:43
awesome. this thing 0:47. surely this will be the start of planetary public space travel.
Animation of boom boom makes me happy
Crazy question --- Why aren't they doing low-altitude catch tests, Felix? Like when they did originally when testing starhopper and such... so launch the Starship with low fuel, go to 30,000 feet, come back down for the swing-and-catch maneuver with very little fuel, and less risk?
Do you have a "You rock!" Felix shirt? Cause you need one. That's what I want.