@@kjkj-ms7xl Yep, and you know what's funny, the US, Germany, UK, actually all of the developed nations never seem to feel the need to build cities for foreigners' luxury. Designing a hotel for foreigners is one thing, but designing a whole city that hardly anyone of your citizens can afford just to allow a bunch of parasites from Mainland China to move...... yah that sounds great.
I attended a Malaysian property road show abt 7yrs ago organised by Malaysian property agents. Even back then, they advocate investing in KL properties instead. They said properties in the Iskandar area (including Forest City) is quite a gamble. Till today, they have been proven correct. You just need to take a drive to that entire area and see for yourself the number of completed but hardly occupied apartments and abandoned landed property projects. Where on earth can you get the over 1million people of middle income level to buy and occupy all these high end properties without the related jobs and businesses created there? The folks involved in the projects there were too naive to think "Simple, we will just build and all the Singapore folks will flock here to snap up the properties like there's no tomorrow"
It worked initially. Spacifically what I mean is that immagrants/expects wasnt able to buy land in the forest city. The malaysian president wanted the city to only accommodate malaysians but since middle class malaysians wasnt able to afford them, the forest city died out.
@@happyface96 absolutely. It was always designed to serve the China market. They did not care that this market was not that interested in Malaysia or look more carefully at currency exchange measures that the Chinese Govt started to introduce to stop capital outflows and money laundering. The developers didn't care where the money came from. So here we are.
I remember being in singapore and seeing promotions for Green City. As a tourist I was impressed with what's going on, but now I see what was really going on.
I have my doubts that the occupancy is now at 50%. For the number of units there, 50% is too high to be true as of now. If there is 50% occupancy, it would be good for businesses to go in already.
Yeah although not bustling at 50% there should be a decent amount of people walking around the streets aswell as other signs of life But here there's basically nothing, it's empty and hollow.
Now project tak jalan. Duit abis, environment also rosak. Better to give the houses to poor people. Take back this project from Forest City. They already failed. This is a danger for public safety already.
The big mistake is there is not enough creations of jobs & business opportunities nearby. Same fate as the Palm Islands and World Islands projects in Dubai. Super rich people will not stay here as a dumb dumb, not as nice as the properties developers & agents have promoted as “holiday resorts”…..
@@NottyGamer Jobs & Business opportunities should be the main obective. China's hundreds of ghost cities is a shining example of that. You cant build a brand new city without new job opportunities.
@@secrets.295 yes that should be the objective, however, Forest City, job and business opportunities not for the locals :) Only for the Stakeholders.. royalties and state gov..... Rakyat dont even benefit from it... now a ghost town... not even the Rakyat can own it LoL!
Aku yg pernah lepak area situ pun naik seram ngan bangunan² tinggi.. dah mcm rumah pangsa kat HK, kat China.. Tulah bila org cakap jangan buat rumah situ degil taknak dengar cakap.. Paling sadis sekali kat Pantai Lido.. Apa salahnya cantikkan area situ.. Ni x, wat bangunan tinggi² merapu..
Even the failure mimics the Forest City constructed in mainland China. If you can demolish those, do it, because China also has this problem: It just becomes a super expensive, large mosquito breeding area.
Kalo dipenuhi penghuni org china dari tanah besar, ini adalah transmigrasi. Walo pun dikatakan ada kawalan2 tertentu.....ini boleh berubah kemudian. Ia berkemungkinan belaku bila di satu masa nanti m'sia di dlm situasi yg dlm keadaan kekuatan ekonomi....politik....sosial dsbnya yg merunsing...haru biru... singkatnya bermasalah besar yg tak tertangani...di masa tu lah kuasa pihak imigrasi yg besar ini tunjuk kuasa & kita tidak tahu juga ada sokongan tangan gaib dr tanah besar. Apa kata tuan & puan? Ini pendapat aku je......
Die bkn pkir tu kalo diorang beromen kat sini lepastu dapat anak, beranak kat sini.. dh tak pasal dapat keistimewaan kat sini.. x mcm celaka.. kang cakap lebih² nanti kena mengadap plak.. aku bukan nak menderhaka tapi aku sayang tanah ni.. sadis ooo FC skarang ni..
Now still can call Forest City. After sometime, it will be called Jin City where the dwellers will all be jins and paranormal entities and the only people renting this place will be the paranormal investigators like SPI, Ghostbusters, GhostSeekers and so on.
Roughly translated message from someone who was involved... "A forest is made up of trees that survive without external interference. A 'forest city' is built on illusions made of money. You forget about local needs but offer to supply the desires of people you have never met and care nothing about. They are fodder. You think big and involve lots of suppliers who can help create this illusion. You get enough financing to smooth the way. You sell the idea many times over and then walk away. The magicians move on to the next show. We are the ghosts that haunt the empty spaces."
Forest City ONLY selling point is near Singapore which is a happening world class city...what can a 3rd grade city JB has to offer? Overseas developers are too ambitious without understanding our local demand and supply. Many greedy investors already got burn badly.
this project was to cater for the newly rich mainland chinese, not locals or sg. so, why they bother about locals? and perhaps now, most of the newly rich mainlands has gone bancrupt or incarcerated. few years back the chinese gov limit funds that can leave china, so....forest city started to become forest.
The price of RM750 rent with a fully furnished home is quite a bargain and the studio apartment only cost RM 1200 is quite cheap. Compare that with Klang Valley area, the rental cost even a low cost apartment in KL can easily cost you minimum RM800 without fully furnished.
Sunway or Mid Valley should take over to revamped the whole entire place, this China property company in China already a blacklisted property company and now facing lots of lawsuit in China which their government against them.
Bro... Sunway Iskandar is there already... and they also face the same "Ghost town!"... look at Iskandar Puteri...... Ghosts are everywhere! LoL! Even the "long autonomous bus" has become ghost!
@@NottyGamer no you can't said that coz Malaysians all going to Singapore and wanted to stay in hdb so that iskandar still haven't had any buyers for the properties and only letting Singaporeans and others foreigners to have it.
the real reason why it collapsed in sale and visitors, there some rumors that one of the investors/buyers came there with the first batch covid back in early 2020. when management knew this happened, they 'shut' the news n no one outside knew about it. n rent price decrease since then, n very2 strict covid test document needed to rent there
..now,that is a no brainer,dude! Get all the big Hollywood directors to come over to shoot a mega end-of-world apocalyptic or post-apocalyptic blockbuster film where the whole city itself will be the theatre set.. for real buildings destruction!.. they can save a lot on animation. Cool 😎
woihhhh studio unit rental rm750 fully furnish dikira murah gila babishh dah ahh kalau nak banding dengan penang.. penang studio unit hampir semua normal price starting 1k above.. itu pn fully furnish furniture cokia2 budget ja.. aku skrg sewa bilik villa house high master bedroom, not furnish pun rental dah rm500 sebulan dekat mainland, kalau belah island lagi cekik darah lagila 😅.. forest city ni tengok la target customer dia siapa, bukan org malaysia pun, elok la jadi bandar mati.. buat kat malaysia tapi bukan target customer malaysia, apa laaa 😂
bro... kalau pergi Forest City.. tak sama macam di Penang... Forest City ni ujung ceruk jauh dari bandar... Penang turun tangga je da kawasan bandar..... sana... turun je... 1 jam baru sampai bandar :)
Johor GOV should give the developer time frame to complete the project like 5 year if not forfeited the project THAT SIMPLE. Some johorean are homeless and there are 100,000 to 1 million units of apartment vacant and empty for 10 to 50 years or forever 🥵🥵🥵
Chinese developer built faster than any developers in the world. If this JV was with local developer, i doubt that they even can managed to complete 3 blocks of condos.
I styed in first city in 2019 that time very few tenants and beautiful beach view it was awesome. As tenant got increased before covid and at covid time frame . We had to struggle for parking for many hours and the noise was too much you could here some one talking in the ground floor all the way up to 16th floor very disturbing so we choosed to shift back to gelagpath immediately after lockdown was released. I forgot to mention mosquito issues I guess
1. Bangunan cantik, persekitaran cantik tapi harga rumah yaa rabbbiiiii..... 2. Pastu signboard kat dalam bangunan tu kebanyakkannya tulis cina sahaja sampai papan tanda tandas pun tulis cina, bahasa kebangsaan dah masuk longkang. Bila sikit hari kelmarin netizen bising, baru la jumpa 1-2 papan tanda guna bahasa kebangsaan. 3. Cadangan aku mudah je, jual balik rumah tu pada orang tempatan dengan harga mampu milik. Diorang (pemaju) memang akan rugi tapi baik la rugi sikit dari rugi teruk. Orang luar pun tak berapa suka sangat forest City tu sebab bising keta lalu lalang. 4. Lagi satu buat la LRT stesyen kat situ, confirm rumah penuh balik.
@@shahlong2790 - betul, kenangan yg tak dpt dilupakan sejak kecil tetapi kerakusan payung kuning habis semua dijual. Kita rakyat marhaen tiada tempat nak lepak2 hujung minggu.........sedih mcm merempat di negara sendiri.
@@abuamir6919 danga bay tu dh kira ok dh.. lepas daripada tu jadi jahanam bangunan yg ntah pape dinaikkan kat situ.. nk bagi free kat hantu dok situ kot..
@@shahlong2790 sy ingat lagi era 80an,90an dekat situ jadi tempat mandi dan berkayak, paling best bila malam lepas habis kerja kami tangkap ketam,dah macam pesta bila malam dekat pantai Lido org tangkap ketam.sekarang yg tinggal hanyalah kenangan
Pricing should be attractive to locals. None left in Phase 1 for sales. While Phase2 was 50% sold pre Covid. Good buy for locals if the prices are revised down in the secondary market. Beautiful golf courses at Forest City and it deserved positive feedback fr Sgporean golfers after Covid.
waktu di umum nak buat projek ni pon aku pon dah boleh agak perkara ni akan terjadi... siapalah yang rancang projek membazir mcm ni.. baik tambah baikJB dengan pengangkutan awam LRT MRT ke...apooo la... perancang bandar fail...
Renting a studio in Forest City for RM1200 and work in SG might still be an amazing deal, renting in SG would easily be RM4000 after conversion minimum and that is for a tiny room only.
RM1200 for a studio still expensive, may be RM800 (S$250) still ok. In SG if you rent a 3 bedroom flat for S$2,100, 6 person stay each is only S$350. S$100 or RM320 is it worth the long journey & queue to work in SG and go back?
@@frankiechiuh3401 they plan to have HSR bro.... however, in view of the "mentality" to enter and exit both countries...... I agree with Frankie.. not worth it!
@@frankiechiuh3401 sounds like those who live in Tijuana and work in San Diego. Having to budget a few hours each day to cross an unpredictable border. Not worth it in the long run
The project not for middle income but for T20 group consider the Price n it’s too expensive for local people 😴 sell to Singaporean they can afford punya or if want make it lively sell to local murah2
it's supposed to be a safe haven for keeping ill gotten wealth in China, and the people who approved it get a good cut on the money movement. But China has clamped down on the outflow of money hence no more payments and buyers.
It is NOT for that reason why Forest City drop from a marvel to practically nothing now and it will continue to be nothing as it goes on. What foreigners are afraid of owning property in Malaysia is the change of regulations by the government and whatever changes they make is it will take effect all of a sudden. This has happens all the time since the 80s and of today it is the same old legislations that haunt foreigners to own properties in Malaysia.
Have you ever bought properties in malaysia? In asia pacific only 4 countries are friendly property owning countries...i.e. malaysia, spore, aus and nzl. If you think owning a property in malaysia is difficult, tried buying one in indonesia or thailand or vietnam
The failure of forest city is due to 1. They priced themselves to attract only investors from china and hong kong 2. The Jv btw chinese developer and local partner (i dun need to say who is the local partner here, a wild guess is suffice) categorised this area as international zone, hence no provision for local affordable housing. 3. The chinese developer built faster than they can sell (as usual). 4. The location of this project is not favourable to even local elites, less so for commoners. Best just to build a bridge from spore to here and allow singaporeans to enter and exit this location without immigration. Problem solved.
Tanah terjual....tahun 2022, sy pergi forest city jalan2 tepi pantai tu tp terkejut jugak la sebab kat tepi pantai tu ada mcm stall kecil yg serve arak...ms sy pegi tu ada la warga asing mynmar dua tiga org duk semeja minum arak😅😅...mula2 forest city dibuka takde plak nmpk ada org jual arak...ni bila dh nampak depa jual arak open camtu memang kita takkan bawa lg ank2 ke situ ....
I was there 2 months ago on my MTB to take a close looks and interestingly even though very few people there the gardens, roads and pools etc are all being very well maintained. I think it has potential but they need to market it to a broader market and just make what they have there nice and dont start building more in some crazy way like before
ade tower macam tower advenger... posisi saya duduk atas cliff tu pandang ke kebun belakang rumah saya...dari posisi tu boleh tengok bandar livatasi besar siak....itu kat Singapore ke Johor... -:kau buat2 paham jelah...tak paham pergi ambik ubat hospital, cakap jer ade mental I'll ke apa...guna compass...lepas feedback kat yt suggestions video.
3:43 "Boleh tahan naik" is a figure of speech that can either be "still affordable" or "quite ridiculous" depending on the tone. In this case the translation was correct. Things should return to normal when the tourists return and the human traffickers continue their business.
Nope. If people want to say "still affordable", they will say "berpatutan". No one use "Boleh tahan" for affordable. "Boleh tahan" in thay guy's tone is mean "above average" or "above affordable" or easier to say "expensive". And "Boleh tahan naik" can be translated to "price increase more than expected" or "price increase more than the average it should be". The "still affordable" is lazy translation & clearly wrong.
Next door to one of the world's largest petroleum refineries and next to singapore incinerator. A poisonous risk all Singaporeans tried very hard to distance themselves from.
Takde orang sebab China masih sekat penduduk nya drpd keluar melancong. Kalau sekali keluar susah nak balik china (pasal covid quarantine and test ) Takde China Chinese takde orang yg nak duduk sana lah. Harga condo dia dah blh beli bungalow kat jb
A stupid idea from greedy people. You're practically selling your land to foreigners without giving them citizenship. You think that will last? Three generations down, they will demand citizenship. By that time you won't be able to say no. So Malaysians should be thankful this project tanked. But wait, now that UMNO is back in power in Johor, they will find ways to save money for people who have interest in the project. High up people. Very high.
Ni semua ikut nafsu tamak haloba dalam diri tanpa pikir panjang untuk rakyat sendiri.. sanggup jual tanah untuk negara luar.. last² lingkup mcmtu.. bangang betol..
save money by bail out MAS airlines? bail out pos malaysia, port klang, selling proton as umno could not bail out anymore? However china making profit once they got proton ? Do not make jokes bro, only rural area folks trust your fairy tale, any malaysian living in the city have eyes and ears and we know what good deeds done by bn, umno in the past 60 years
Precisely Singaporean shy already every month change policy like mac's Malaysia my 2nd house policy keep changing and prime minister also keep changing every year
The location is too far away from city center. No attraction to local people or tourists. Instead of residential area only, they may consider to convert it into a leisure place which can attract more people to stay for vacation. Like the Marina Bay of SG. China construction used to build condominiums which has too many units in a tower and too many blocks that making it looks more like HDB to me. Not comfortable at all.
I meeeaaaan if rent is only RM1200 a month for a studio (272.6 USD) than I'd imagine a one bedroom couldnt be more than RM2400 (542.21 USD). Way better than rent here in the states (even if the prices are only low temporarily). It'd be a unique place to live still
It is a development doomed. No prospect of recovery. Gov housing policies changing overnight like flipping Roti Canai. Singaporeans would not buy, China people not coming ~ where u find buyers???
@@rawjusticeman3128 I have yet to see a well funded paranormal party, lesser being able to purchase “ghosted development” for research purposes. You should probably get your head checked, or maybe your tongue just has had an elongated tear. 😏
Its hot...the tress are not tall enough for shade. Its by the sea so the air is hot af. The plants looks more like a lush hotel garden then an actual forest
They forgot the fact that usually investor will buy a house but not living in them and another thing if you not gonna target people that actually want to live and have their family there than the place gonna dia for sure because there's no economical sense to open business there.
4:38 Now the occupancy rate is about 50%, no, nowhere near. The whole area has masses of empty properties and many more still being built. A recipe for disaster.
Malaysians should feel blessed that this thing going bust might be the only good thing that came out of Covid. China has huge colonialist ambitions in Indo-Pacific, and this forest city is a prime example of that.
@@iwilson6651 It’s all about debt trapping these small but strategically located nations. They start by offering to help build their infrastructure and economy, next thing you know you are defaulting on those loans and allowing them to build naval bases in your backyard. They’ve been doing this for years in Africa for natural resources. Ultimately they do this because they think it’s the only way to defeat the free world given their abysmal birthrate and rapidly declining work force. China always claims they do not want to expand and will not repeat the imperial history of the West, but in order to survive they might just have to…they can’t rely entirely on technological innovation because it’s unpredictable and China is not really good at fundamental sciences. They want to secure a future that is fairly certain and in their favor.
China only like do business and make money, 1.4b population is a largerst market and some will immigrants overseas. No matter you like china or not, china develop in peaceful for decades and not in war.
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In deed no human carbon footprint now. Excellent job. Achieved the purpose.
The reduced
Carbon Foot Prints thing is mostly a scam.
What a way to put it XD
True
jeez😂
Damaged done: Reclamation of land caused damaged to marine eco-system. No carbon foot print my @ss
The name "Forest City" really become a reality. 😭😭😭
😂😂😂
That would be the most pessimistic opinion one could come up with.
.... And soon will turn into a thick jungle fit only for animals dualing habitats.
A famous Malaysian said “I hope Forest City will truly become a forest… Its residents will consist of baboons, monkeys and so on." I share his hopes.
The Name "Winston Wong City" really became a reality 🤣🤣🤣
The moment I read that it targeted Chinese citizens, I knew that this was going to be a disaster. Good ol Malaysia serving others before themselves.
everthing there was international standard even school and hospitals
chinese as in malaysian chinese or china chinese?
@@second_second_ Mainland Chinese.
@@second_second_ What part of "Chinese Citizen" did you not understand?
@@kjkj-ms7xl Yep, and you know what's funny, the US, Germany, UK, actually all of the developed nations never seem to feel the need to build cities for foreigners' luxury. Designing a hotel for foreigners is one thing, but designing a whole city that hardly anyone of your citizens can afford just to allow a bunch of parasites from Mainland China to move...... yah that sounds great.
I hope the trees in the building will overgrown and the whole project will become a real rain forest😁🌳👍
It'll be a horror spot in town
@@f.s.firdaus8106 that would be cool
@@justnotes2583 yeah..'cool' in more ways than one... 😄
Bila hati telah hitam
😂😂Back to nature
Also, in that climate structures deteriorate quickly if not maintained.
I attended a Malaysian property road show abt 7yrs ago organised by Malaysian property agents. Even back then, they advocate investing in KL properties instead. They said properties in the Iskandar area (including Forest City) is quite a gamble. Till today, they have been proven correct. You just need to take a drive to that entire area and see for yourself the number of completed but hardly occupied apartments and abandoned landed property projects. Where on earth can you get the over 1million people of middle income level to buy and occupy all these high end properties without the related jobs and businesses created there? The folks involved in the projects there were too naive to think "Simple, we will just build and all the Singapore folks will flock here to snap up the properties like there's no tomorrow"
It worked initially. Spacifically what I mean is that immagrants/expects wasnt able to buy land in the forest city. The malaysian president wanted the city to only accommodate malaysians but since middle class malaysians wasnt able to afford them, the forest city died out.
They were built for Chinese speculators. Not Malaysian locals or Singapore investors. Chinese speculators.
China cant wait to buy this 😂
@@happyface96 absolutely. It was always designed to serve the China market. They did not care that this market was not that interested in Malaysia or look more carefully at currency exchange measures that the Chinese Govt started to introduce to stop capital outflows and money laundering. The developers didn't care where the money came from. So here we are.
@@happyface96 serve them right. Flocking to appease the China man while ditching the locals and end up losing money themselves.
Better sell to malaysian la murah murah. I can guarantee you this place will be lively.
exactly,,
B40 will turn into some rundown area
@@watb8689 at least it wont be a ghost city. A rundown area can be improved while a ghost city will be useless..
@@mybraintalks lolz b40 also need to work.... absent here...
I remember being in singapore and seeing promotions for Green City. As a tourist I was impressed with what's going on, but now I see what was really going on.
I guess you can still go there to swim, can't you?
I have my doubts that the occupancy is now at 50%. For the number of units there, 50% is too high to be true as of now. If there is 50% occupancy, it would be good for businesses to go in already.
Yeah although not bustling at 50% there should be a decent amount of people walking around the streets aswell as other signs of life
But here there's basically nothing, it's empty and hollow.
I'm gonna guess it's 50% ownership but not occupancy
@@frozenflava yeah that's more likely.
Ive been there a few times on MTB and from observations I would say maximum 5% occupancy and even that Im not really confident
@@888jucu yeah. Maybe 1-2k people living on the island but that's it. Not much more.
Now project tak jalan. Duit abis, environment also rosak. Better to give the houses to poor people. Take back this project from Forest City. They already failed. This is a danger for public safety already.
wat ?500 miles ?
Ya give to poor ppl become a slum
@@aogoh option demolish all n turn into a park n forest reserve for poor people to enjoy
@@aogoh
Ever heard of a selection committee?
nanti jd mcm filem District 13 pulak
The big mistake is there is not enough creations of jobs & business opportunities nearby. Same fate as the Palm Islands and World Islands projects in Dubai. Super rich people will not stay here as a dumb dumb, not as nice as the properties developers & agents have promoted as “holiday resorts”…..
job & business opportunities were not the main objective here :)
@@NottyGamer Jobs & Business opportunities should be the main obective. China's hundreds of ghost cities is a shining example of that. You cant build a brand new city without new job opportunities.
@@secrets.295 yes that should be the objective, however, Forest City, job and business opportunities not for the locals :) Only for the Stakeholders.. royalties and state gov..... Rakyat dont even benefit from it... now a ghost town... not even the Rakyat can own it LoL!
In short they made it on the wrong side of the Johor strait.
Aku yg pernah lepak area situ pun naik seram ngan bangunan² tinggi.. dah mcm rumah pangsa kat HK, kat China.. Tulah bila org cakap jangan buat rumah situ degil taknak dengar cakap.. Paling sadis sekali kat Pantai Lido.. Apa salahnya cantikkan area situ.. Ni x, wat bangunan tinggi² merapu..
Tny tm?
Duit punya pasal habis tanah Di Malaysia developers hancurkan…di Selangor atas2 bukit diaorang buat bangunan2 tinggi…hancur masa depan Malaysia
Very good point
Biarlah takde orang.bukan orang malaysia yang nak duduk.
@@octaviograsia2831 yeke developer. bukan ehem ehem ke jual tanah? kahkahkha. yg paham tu paham la.
Even the failure mimics the Forest City constructed in mainland China. If you can demolish those, do it, because China also has this problem: It just becomes a super expensive, large mosquito breeding area.
Kalo dipenuhi penghuni org china dari tanah besar, ini adalah transmigrasi. Walo pun dikatakan ada kawalan2 tertentu.....ini boleh berubah kemudian. Ia berkemungkinan belaku bila di satu masa nanti m'sia di dlm situasi yg dlm keadaan kekuatan ekonomi....politik....sosial dsbnya yg merunsing...haru biru... singkatnya bermasalah besar yg tak tertangani...di masa tu lah kuasa pihak imigrasi yg besar ini tunjuk kuasa & kita tidak tahu juga ada sokongan tangan gaib dr tanah besar. Apa kata tuan & puan? Ini pendapat aku je......
Die bkn pkir tu kalo diorang beromen kat sini lepastu dapat anak, beranak kat sini.. dh tak pasal dapat keistimewaan kat sini.. x mcm celaka.. kang cakap lebih² nanti kena mengadap plak.. aku bukan nak menderhaka tapi aku sayang tanah ni.. sadis ooo FC skarang ni..
Tempat ini macam resort untuk penginapan sementara. Lagipun, rakyat China yang ingin berhijrah akan ke Singapura.
@@yenchu1237 and since only party members have the means/privilege to travel the damage is hard to mitigate
Baru komen satu ni yang kudapati tanpa ada campuran English.
Murni Malay.
Now still can call Forest City. After sometime, it will be called Jin City where the dwellers will all be jins and paranormal entities and the only people renting this place will be the paranormal investigators like SPI, Ghostbusters, GhostSeekers and so on.
i literral crack my ass off laughing at your comment.
Whose stupid idea building concrete jungle in the city .
Stupid ,& silly.
It was approved by the "Bossku" administration. 💲👀💲
Haiya already kawtim so than 'mainland' people can masuk maa
dont forget those who approved the project on their State……..
Roughly translated message from someone who was involved...
"A forest is made up of trees that survive without external interference. A 'forest city' is built on illusions made of money. You forget about local needs but offer to supply the desires of people you have never met and care nothing about. They are fodder. You think big and involve lots of suppliers who can help create this illusion. You get enough financing to smooth the way. You sell the idea many times over and then walk away. The magicians move on to the next show. We are the ghosts that haunt the empty spaces."
Forest City ONLY selling point is near Singapore which is a happening world class city...what can a 3rd grade city JB has to offer? Overseas developers are too ambitious without understanding our local demand and supply. Many greedy investors already got burn badly.
dont forget the "owner"... they greatly benefits compared to the locals (which were shun to many projects opportunities)
Over SEES 👀
🇨🇳 DEVELOPER ☑️
this project was to cater for the newly rich mainland chinese, not locals or sg. so, why they bother about locals? and perhaps now, most of the newly rich mainlands has gone bancrupt or incarcerated. few years back the chinese gov limit funds that can leave china, so....forest city started to become forest.
Many years ago, I said this is another ghost city in the making.
Everywhere is ghost town during the pandemic.
Wow, fortune teller
Many years ago, I said someone like you would say this is another ghost city in the making.
Many years ago i dreamt that forest city will eventually turn into forest gump
Many years ago no ghost yet but now sure plenty of ghosts inside those empty units and most of them don't pay maintenance fees.
Next time, leaders should give priority to locals…at the time the financial stabil then open to outsiders
What I think was not a good idea was the number of units is too high causing a high density community which has little character.
The price of RM750 rent with a fully furnished home is quite a bargain and the studio apartment only cost RM 1200 is quite cheap. Compare that with Klang Valley area, the rental cost even a low cost apartment in KL can easily cost you minimum RM800 without fully furnished.
Jual kat rakyat tempatan dgn harga yg berpatutan jgn mahal sangat...
Convert to ppr lah..for rakyat low income...I think rakyat Johor rmai lgi still haven't first home..Better give to them lah..
Sunway or Mid Valley should take over to revamped the whole entire place, this China property company in China already a blacklisted property company and now facing lots of lawsuit in China which their government against them.
and also Genting should take over too
@@amirism91 genting cannot la their business is hotel and resort and casino.
Bro... Sunway Iskandar is there already... and they also face the same "Ghost town!"... look at Iskandar Puteri...... Ghosts are everywhere! LoL! Even the "long autonomous bus" has become ghost!
@@NottyGamer no you can't said that coz Malaysians all going to Singapore and wanted to stay in hdb so that iskandar still haven't had any buyers for the properties and only letting Singaporeans and others foreigners to have it.
@@amirism91 genting already announced bankrupt last year
HDB estates in Singapore look better than this lol
the real reason why it collapsed in sale and visitors, there some rumors that one of the investors/buyers came there with the first batch covid back in early 2020. when management knew this happened, they 'shut' the news n no one outside knew about it. n rent price decrease since then, n very2 strict covid test document needed to rent there
lols. hahahahaha
can be an awesome ruin in the future. or settings for films. or emergency shelters. hope it has food because it has forest
..now,that is a no brainer,dude!
Get all the big Hollywood directors to come over to shoot a mega end-of-world apocalyptic or post-apocalyptic blockbuster film where the whole city itself will be the theatre set.. for real buildings destruction!.. they can save a lot on animation.
Cool 😎
woihhhh studio unit rental rm750 fully furnish dikira murah gila babishh dah ahh kalau nak banding dengan penang.. penang studio unit hampir semua normal price starting 1k above.. itu pn fully furnish furniture cokia2 budget ja.. aku skrg sewa bilik villa house high master bedroom, not furnish pun rental dah rm500 sebulan dekat mainland, kalau belah island lagi cekik darah lagila 😅.. forest city ni tengok la target customer dia siapa, bukan org malaysia pun, elok la jadi bandar mati.. buat kat malaysia tapi bukan target customer malaysia, apa laaa 😂
bro... kalau pergi Forest City.. tak sama macam di Penang... Forest City ni ujung ceruk jauh dari bandar... Penang turun tangga je da kawasan bandar..... sana... turun je... 1 jam baru sampai bandar :)
Johor GOV should give the developer time frame to complete the project like 5 year if not forfeited the project THAT SIMPLE. Some johorean are homeless and there are 100,000 to 1 million units of apartment vacant and empty for 10 to 50 years or forever 🥵🥵🥵
Mereka hanya pandang undian saje.. Lepas menang jadi kerajaan, tak amik kisah dah pasal rakyat..
Chinese developer built faster than any developers in the world.
If this JV was with local developer, i doubt that they even can managed to complete 3 blocks of condos.
@@linustw
What's your point?
@@linustw they are amazing when it comes to speed but not quality
Johor Gov allowed this that has nothing to do with the Johorean in mind :)
That I can be sure :)
Every time they say GHOST CITY... 5 years later the entire CITY is filled
yep, after 5 years this place will be filled, filled with over grown plants and trees! and cracking walls!😂😂😂
the overly densed hong kong style apartments are an eye sore
Bg je harga murah, mesti rmai dan penuh org akan beli rumah..
Banyak rumah 1 bilik je.. kalo org bujang yg taknak kahwin smpai hujung nyawa bolehlah, hehehe
Bnyk polong tinggai forest city. cik pon stay kat atas bumbung
I styed in first city in 2019 that time very few tenants and beautiful beach view it was awesome. As tenant got increased before covid and at covid time frame . We had to struggle for parking for many hours and the noise was too much you could here some one talking in the ground floor all the way up to 16th floor very disturbing so we choosed to shift back to gelagpath immediately after lockdown was released. I forgot to mention mosquito issues I guess
The name is Forest City; so what do you expect? a lot of mosquitoes la 😄
@@ramzen1976 ya I agree
That's what sucks about "luxury" New builds, you can hear everything, from bathroom to bedroom. Didn't think about the mosquito aspect...duh lol 😆
Mosquito issue? Which block did you stayed there before o? Starview Bay?
Mosquito issues might be because you're staying lower than 10th floor. Horrible indeed tho
Pindahkan saja penduduk flat Larkin...ke situ habis cerita...
yeap..good idea. kasi murah..
Best lah duk tepi pantai mlm sejuk angin tiup
Convert jadi movie set jela, untuk movie² genre horror, seram, zombie, apocalypse, urban war etc.
Buat lah Seekers, NTV7 di sana, mesti banyak penonton punya. Nanti Zak from GhostAdventures pasti akan datang dan buat pensiasatan.
dari terbengkalai begitu shj, baik kerajaan buka jualan pada rakyat tempatan dengan harga mudah milik
Ckp gune mulut sampah. Senang aje. Project ni bukan under government pun.
1. Bangunan cantik, persekitaran cantik tapi harga rumah yaa rabbbiiiii.....
2. Pastu signboard kat dalam bangunan tu kebanyakkannya tulis cina sahaja sampai papan tanda tandas pun tulis cina, bahasa kebangsaan dah masuk longkang. Bila sikit hari kelmarin netizen bising, baru la jumpa 1-2 papan tanda guna bahasa kebangsaan.
3. Cadangan aku mudah je, jual balik rumah tu pada orang tempatan dengan harga mampu milik. Diorang (pemaju) memang akan rugi tapi baik la rugi sikit dari rugi teruk. Orang luar pun tak berapa suka sangat forest City tu sebab bising keta lalu lalang.
4. Lagi satu buat la LRT stesyen kat situ, confirm rumah penuh balik.
It's now an aptly named forest city Coz it's turning to one literally!
Waste of money. Soon it will be eaten by forest and it fits the name
how I missed Pantai Lido so much..🥺🥺
Kan.. ramai yg rindu ngan Pantai Lido.. tempat kita santai² ngan keluarga waktu petang time kita kecik lagi..
@@shahlong2790 - betul, kenangan yg tak dpt dilupakan sejak kecil tetapi kerakusan payung kuning habis semua dijual. Kita rakyat marhaen tiada tempat nak lepak2 hujung minggu.........sedih mcm merempat di negara sendiri.
@@abuamir6919 danga bay tu dh kira ok dh.. lepas daripada tu jadi jahanam bangunan yg ntah pape dinaikkan kat situ.. nk bagi free kat hantu dok situ kot..
Pantai Lido terlalu banyak kenangan
@@shahlong2790 sy ingat lagi era 80an,90an dekat situ jadi tempat mandi dan berkayak, paling best bila malam lepas habis kerja kami tangkap ketam,dah macam pesta bila malam dekat pantai Lido org tangkap ketam.sekarang yg tinggal hanyalah kenangan
Its time to open the market for Malaysian....the abandoned issue could be cater if its open for malaysian market prices.
Pricing should be attractive to locals. None left in Phase 1 for sales. While Phase2 was 50% sold pre Covid. Good buy for locals if the prices are revised down in the secondary market. Beautiful golf courses at Forest City and it deserved positive feedback fr Sgporean golfers after Covid.
Forest City can be a symbol of the country’s economy.
Ouch
There is no shortage of idiotic politicians and leaders in Malaysia...
Unfortunately true
especially in Johor 🤣🤣🤣
If you transfer forest City to Singapore government jurisdiction, overnight the demand will 10x
how?
How the fak does this work?
optimist sgt tak boleh juga jang.. hahaha
Jual ajelah pada rakyat Malaysia..dgn harga mampu milik...drp jadi gajah putih...
Although Malaysia is a small country, but it is big in the eyes of the world, greetings from a Malay cognate from Indonesia
indon.
greetings from beautiful Lombok island, going to move to Malaysia next year as a student!
Arghhhh...pasti kutemu mbah kunti, wewe gombel di sana
@@saifudinsaofudituiran3297banglasya😂
waktu di umum nak buat projek ni pon aku pon dah boleh agak perkara ni akan terjadi... siapalah yang rancang projek membazir mcm ni.. baik tambah baikJB dengan pengangkutan awam LRT MRT ke...apooo la... perancang bandar fail...
The buildings are too crowded!
Maybe you can hear your neighbors next building moaning while making 💕😄
@@ramzen1976 not too bad actually
@@rollinghippo2940 at the beginning lol. But being woken up with porno-esque moaning gets old...fast haha
I know right..what a lousy set up of building
Buy a luxury condo nearby the sea but you only see the next building. Smart @ss Chinese developer.🤣
Salary in Malaysia not to high likes in America, Europe, Australia , Japan and China not effort to buy home in Forest City
Renting a studio in Forest City for RM1200 and work in SG might still be an amazing deal, renting in SG would easily be RM4000 after conversion minimum and that is for a tiny room only.
RM1200 for a studio still expensive, may be RM800 (S$250) still ok. In SG if you rent a 3 bedroom flat for S$2,100, 6 person stay each is only S$350. S$100 or RM320 is it worth the long journey & queue to work in SG and go back?
@@frankiechiuh3401 they plan to have HSR bro.... however, in view of the "mentality" to enter and exit both countries...... I agree with Frankie.. not worth it!
@@frankiechiuh3401 sounds like those who live in Tijuana and work in San Diego. Having to budget a few hours each day to cross an unpredictable border. Not worth it in the long run
@@frankiechiuh3401 We have studio room 1300 per month rental in Damansara
RM4000 WTF!!!
The project not for middle income but for T20 group consider the
Price n it’s too expensive for local people 😴 sell to Singaporean they can afford punya or if want make it lively sell to local murah2
T1 group.
it's supposed to be a safe haven for keeping ill gotten wealth in China, and the people who approved it get a good cut on the money movement. But China has clamped down on the outflow of money hence no more payments and buyers.
Sabotage from previous govt. Who ban foreigner from buying Forrest City propertis?
Greed and stupidity are bad enough by themselves but when you combine both, you will get a disaster like this.
It is NOT for that reason why Forest City drop from a marvel to practically nothing now and it will continue to be nothing as it goes on. What foreigners are afraid of owning property in Malaysia is the change of regulations by the government and whatever changes they make is it will take effect all of a sudden. This has happens all the time since the 80s and of today it is the same old legislations that haunt foreigners to own properties in Malaysia.
Have you ever bought properties in malaysia?
In asia pacific only 4 countries are friendly property owning countries...i.e. malaysia, spore, aus and nzl.
If you think owning a property in malaysia is difficult, tried buying one in indonesia or thailand or vietnam
The failure of forest city is due to
1. They priced themselves to attract only investors from china and hong kong
2. The Jv btw chinese developer and local partner (i dun need to say who is the local partner here, a wild guess is suffice) categorised this area as international zone, hence no provision for local affordable housing.
3. The chinese developer built faster than they can sell (as usual).
4. The location of this project is not favourable to even local elites, less so for commoners.
Best just to build a bridge from spore to here and allow singaporeans to enter and exit this location without immigration. Problem solved.
@@linustw - are yu crazy? It's will be singland without pasport.
@@linustw without immigration? 😂😂😂😂
Try buying properties in Thailand or Vietnam or China. The authorities there will chase you away if you are a foreigner.
Finally it remains as a forest
Kebanggaan anak Johor Yang mudah sangat terpedaya...anak Johor Yang sejati
Tanah terjual....tahun 2022, sy pergi forest city jalan2 tepi pantai tu tp terkejut jugak la sebab kat tepi pantai tu ada mcm stall kecil yg serve arak...ms sy pegi tu ada la warga asing mynmar dua tiga org duk semeja minum arak😅😅...mula2 forest city dibuka takde plak nmpk ada org jual arak...ni bila dh nampak depa jual arak open camtu memang kita takkan bawa lg ank2 ke situ ....
Saya ddk KT kampung sekitar.. MMG satu projek yg merugikan penduduk... MMG memusnahkan ekosistem..terutamanya yg melibatkan aktiviti nelayan
I was there 2 months ago on my MTB to take a close looks and interestingly even though very few people there the gardens, roads and pools etc are all being very well maintained. I think it has potential but they need to market it to a broader market and just make what they have there nice and dont start building more in some crazy way like before
Forest city now become largest ghost city outside of China
Tun Mahathir is right, this forest city will become forest. lol.
Forest City, Danga Bay, Kota Iskandar semua aku tgk banyak terbengkalai. Kalau siap pun takde orang. Tak terurus.
This is going to be a perfect place to get your futuristic zombie apocalypse city idea 💀
I'm sorry 😐 about this. Hope city came back . People came move back. It was a dream city 🌆
Developer should just sell cheap to recoup losses. Let humans live there instead of ghosts.
ade tower macam tower advenger... posisi saya duduk atas cliff tu pandang ke kebun belakang rumah saya...dari posisi tu boleh tengok bandar livatasi besar siak....itu kat Singapore ke Johor...
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While Sg property price and SGD exchange rate continues to climb up,
3:43 "Boleh tahan naik" is a figure of speech that can either be "still affordable" or "quite ridiculous" depending on the tone. In this case the translation was correct.
Things should return to normal when the tourists return and the human traffickers continue their business.
Nope. If people want to say "still affordable", they will say "berpatutan". No one use "Boleh tahan" for affordable. "Boleh tahan" in thay guy's tone is mean "above average" or "above affordable" or easier to say "expensive".
And "Boleh tahan naik" can be translated to "price increase more than expected" or "price increase more than the average it should be".
The "still affordable" is lazy translation & clearly wrong.
@@ariffarhan3593 Agreed !
@@ariffarhan3593 I think the reason why he chose that word is because he also lives there and he doesn't want it to look bad.
Next door to one of the world's largest petroleum refineries and next to singapore incinerator. A poisonous risk all Singaporeans tried very hard to distance themselves from.
Takde orang sebab China masih sekat penduduk nya drpd keluar melancong. Kalau sekali keluar susah nak balik china (pasal covid quarantine and test )
Takde China Chinese takde orang yg nak duduk sana lah. Harga condo dia dah blh beli bungalow kat jb
ini smua punca sebab kobit. kalau tak dh rmai org dtg forest city
A stupid idea from greedy people. You're practically selling your land to foreigners without giving them citizenship. You think that will last? Three generations down, they will demand citizenship. By that time you won't be able to say no.
So Malaysians should be thankful this project tanked.
But wait, now that UMNO is back in power in Johor, they will find ways to save money for people who have interest in the project. High up people. Very high.
Ni semua ikut nafsu tamak haloba dalam diri tanpa pikir panjang untuk rakyat sendiri.. sanggup jual tanah untuk negara luar.. last² lingkup mcmtu.. bangang betol..
Your views dont make sense . Probably you have to visit the developers' sale office more often.
This is a racist remark. Very xenophobic.
Yes.. Cash is KING.. and the KING is the rakyat! LoL!
More ppl will get blinded, robbed and even tricked again and again when PRU15 starts!
save money by bail out MAS airlines? bail out pos malaysia, port klang, selling proton as umno could not bail out anymore? However china making profit once they got proton ? Do not make jokes bro, only rural area folks trust your fairy tale, any malaysian living in the city have eyes and ears and we know what good deeds done by bn, umno in the past 60 years
Forest city has become a ghost city.
Forest City become forest
stupid payung kuning plan
greed is the most suitable word to explain this.
The recession is coming and forest city cannot survive..
Very few singaporean want to invest in Malaysia ; they keep changing the poicy. forest city doesn't attract singapore
Precisely Singaporean shy already every month change policy like mac's Malaysia my 2nd house policy keep changing and prime minister also keep changing every year
Welcome to I am legend- city
This place have another potential though ,it can attract fan of paranormal activity
The location is too far away from city center. No attraction to local people or tourists.
Instead of residential area only, they may consider to convert it into a leisure place which can attract more people to stay for vacation. Like the Marina Bay of SG.
China construction used to build condominiums which has too many units in a tower and too many blocks that making it looks more like HDB to me. Not comfortable at all.
Tun Mahathir's opinions and foresight are always clear and true…🤔
I meeeaaaan if rent is only RM1200 a month for a studio (272.6 USD) than I'd imagine a one bedroom couldnt be more than RM2400 (542.21 USD). Way better than rent here in the states (even if the prices are only low temporarily). It'd be a unique place to live still
compare to neighbouring township, not US LOL
Unless there’s a huge employment opportunity appeared around forest city, or else I don’t see this area will be even half full in the next 10 years.
The biggest elephant project in Malaysia, like this still want to go for independence?
you want to city, you dont get forest, you want forest, you dont have city. The name itself is already contradict
The project can be a success, if the right policies are employed!
Yes. Pity it was designed and targeted at Chinese nationals with exorbitant pricing. Those pricing work in Kuala Lumpur and Penang but not in Johor.
projek kayakan kerabat dan rumah2 majoriti dimiliki warga asing
It is a development doomed. No prospect of recovery.
Gov housing policies changing overnight like flipping Roti Canai. Singaporeans would not buy, China people not coming ~ where u find buyers???
Sell it to paranormal investigators buyers, they will be too happy to grab a unit to investigate for paranormal entities or phenomena.
@@rawjusticeman3128
I have yet to see a well funded paranormal party, lesser being able to purchase “ghosted development” for research purposes.
You should probably get your head checked, or maybe your tongue just has had an elongated tear.
😏
Looks like something from the past like Kowloon Walled city.
It reminds me of a Ghost town place in Abkhazia near Georgia.
wow very beautiful imagine the air there 😍 I'd be Boss there in a city like that...
Its hot...the tress are not tall enough for shade. Its by the sea so the air is hot af. The plants looks more like a lush hotel garden then an actual forest
They forgot the fact that usually investor will buy a house but not living in them and another thing if you not gonna target people that actually want to live and have their family there than the place gonna dia for sure because there's no economical sense to open business there.
The buildings are so tall n crowded. Cramp into reclaim land🤔🤔. Look at the palm in dubai, I dun c such tall buildings on it.
They want to sell to foreigners but make it very difficult for foreigners to stay long term in Malaysia. Who want to buy?
Exactly ! even existing foreigner owners wana sell and leave due to vague policy .
Sell the apartment to the Malaysia citizens.. Many want to buy if the price reasonable.. better sell before became Ghost town..
4:38 Now the occupancy rate is about 50%, no, nowhere near. The whole area has masses of empty properties and many more still being built. A recipe for disaster.
Malaysians should feel blessed that this thing going bust might be the only good thing that came out of Covid. China has huge colonialist ambitions in Indo-Pacific, and this forest city is a prime example of that.
China already have their claws in Sri lanka and Dijibouti ...ah the sage wisdom of sun tsu :-)
@@iwilson6651 It’s all about debt trapping these small but strategically located nations. They start by offering to help build their infrastructure and economy, next thing you know you are defaulting on those loans and allowing them to build naval bases in your backyard. They’ve been doing this for years in Africa for natural resources. Ultimately they do this because they think it’s the only way to defeat the free world given their abysmal birthrate and rapidly declining work force. China always claims they do not want to expand and will not repeat the imperial history of the West, but in order to survive they might just have to…they can’t rely entirely on technological innovation because it’s unpredictable and China is not really good at fundamental sciences. They want to secure a future that is fairly certain and in their favor.
China only like do business and make money, 1.4b population is a largerst market and some will immigrants overseas. No matter you like china or not, china develop in peaceful for decades and not in war.
Kebagaan rakyat johor utk pembangunan bagi rakyat asing.
i want to live there
Kasi sewa rm 250 satu bulan satu unit comfirm penoh
Bawah rumah kedai mesti maju loo dan ghost city mesti tukar
Nama maju city
Dah la jual dekat orang luar.. orang luar pon taknak beli 😂😂 betul2 national embarrassment.
ingat dulu , bila tanya harga.. takut..
sekarang , tengok keadaan.. lagi takut!