@Sleeping Warrior While that idea is great, in practice it doesn't work so well. Most of these old cases have terrible airflow and even worse cable management solutions.
The RAM is in dual-channel mode. Confirmed from windows CPU-Z. Also the CPU fan is in a pull configuration, so it's blowing air out the back of the case. Relax, you guys ;)
i think you have missed the point made by myself and others no-one said it wasnt running dual channel we pointed out the black pair of slots are not the suggested and thus more able slots to use as recommended by asus the blue slots should be populated by two ram sticks first likely due to better traces/paths to the cpu IMC
Yep Asus tend to use the slots further away from the CPU unsure if this is common with other boards (but only matters if the ram is been overclocked witch I would guess this case it isn't)
Thoughtful pauses to take note and explanations on important nitpicks that are always overlooked everywhere else but make a worlds difference when actually doing it. Brilliant
Two issues with psu being up is you have to be careful of wires going into fan of psu causing a clicking noise and wires not reaching behind motherboard like cpu power cables.
Not a fan 😁 of this orientation because of previous experiences with dust, bugs, liquids, cables, coins, bolts, plastic pieces, rat piss/feces and so on getting into the fan. I prefer the extra PSU short-protection from the human virus ;P
Not a fan of psu fan up because then it competes with the GPU about incoming fresh air... When there's no carpet, you should always install your PSU fan facing down
Here, here. Let's keep in all the sneezes. I wish I had a nickel for every time I sneezed while working on a computer. In fact, I need to Hoover my floor right now.
I just did this to my old X79 i7 3820+ GTX 1060 6GB pc. And i had a GTX 660 Before that one xD. Upgraded to aCorsair R275 Case, added some fans, and bought a 2070 super Waitigin for Zen 3 to upgrade the rest of the pc
Greetings from Italy! I started looking at your youtube channel a few months ago! You seems very professional, i haven't find something similar in my language so i look at your videos very gladly! Bravo!!
That's a Sound Blaster Z which in my opinion puts to shame most modern onboard sound solutions as well. Have one just like that from back when I had a 4th gen Intel and it's still miles better than the onboard solution on my current Ryzen 3000/x570 platform.
He is right about a case difference may make it seem faster. My spare desktop is from 2007, it runs decently, but it isn't the case making that one seem slow. Its windows 10 and a 1 core 2ghz amd cpu. But anyway Great video Adam!
I bought the Corsair 275R in black for a new build. I liked it so much, I bought another one in white for a second build. Probably, one of the best bang for buck cases on the market. The only con I could list is that the Corsair fans are very loud. I replaced them with Silent Wings 3 and Arctic P12s on the AIOs. I totally agree about the owners original case. Not my style. Thanks for sharing. Came out really clean but this case has lots of slots and covers on the wire pass throughs. Its the little things that you will appreciate if you are coming from a really old\budget case.
People will always have comments about how other people build pc's, i also build a pc, when they will see the inside of my retro sleeper, they will cringe and tell me this and that, but the fact is, it works, temps are good, and the airflow is nice and quiet, thats all that mathers, i do not care what others say about my build, it works for me and since it is in a very old pentium 3 case and they see windows 10 on it with a modern core i series chip and a gtx graphics card (not mentioning my specs here because they do not mather to anyone else), they are stunned, so yeah, whatever works for you is all that mathers! Great video man!
The screws are size 6, with a thread pitch of 32 threads per inch. So they are 6-32 screws. You can get screws that are the same size but different thread pitches. For one example 10-24 and 10-32 are both relatively common.
So the GPU is Kaputt... Again a german term. Again i grin about it 😅 I really like your Channel since i hit it Graham. I came for the BRB's, got fascinated by the LFC's and now i inhale all of your content. Keep it up! Your content rocks
Hi, german here. At first I thought my brain is broken, but then I realised he really said kaputt. Is it something similar like Gesundheit or Kindergarten? I often hear these words in the english language
@@MrTommyGeek i don't have any clue 😅 bin selbst deutscher. Graham sagt auch gern Schmutz und empfindet es nicht als Fremdwort 😉 hatte das Thema schon in nem anderen Video mit ihm.
@@marcelsimon6425 Haha, ist ja cool. Schmutz ist mir auch schon aufgefallen, aber ich dachte da echt nicht an unser deutsches Wort Schmutz, eher an irgendeinen englischen Slang ^^
I use the Soundblaster Z in a fairly new gaming and entertainment computer Ryzen7 5800x. The reason I still use it is because it outputs true 5.1 (wish it was 7.1) signal on the optical port s/pdif out. As where most of the onboard sound cards with s/pdif out don't output surround signal only stereo signal on their optical port. Great Vids !! Cheer's !!
I kind of feel cheated wanted to see the dust before you gave it the compressor treatment everyone loves watching a good dust blasting with Mr Compressor. I loved the way you sneezed on your sleeve then wiped the customers SSD with the same sleeve you just blasted with your nose junk no added charge for that LOL. You may want to run a virus check on the SSD drive. With a dusty motherboard I normally spray a paintbrush with isopropyl alcohol until the brush is moist not drenched then work the board with the brush then give the board half hour to completely dry gives it that factory fresh glossy finish. I have done that trick for years also on graphics card PCBs without any issues. I am loving the content tho but please keep the normal intro that's your trademark Adam don't change anything because your getting subs and watchers because your genuine. Lot of modders love them old case's like that for projects....
I have my psu mounted with the fan down above aluminium mesh running across the bottom of case. Case is sat on the floor on short pile carpet. When I first put it together I thought the psu would get full of dust pretty quickly with the fan pointed down but Its been great. I normally blow the dust out of the pc every couple of months with an air line" had computers since the 80's and never had a problem". A lot of dust comes out of the inside of the case but nothing comes out of the psu always spotless .Power supply has upgraded 140mm fan installed and it moves a lot of air! I installed it this way as my graphic card temps reduced by 7-10 degrees compared to having the fan on top.
But I love my Zalman Z11 case, esp with good airflow, it is from around 2012 what do you mean about expandability? It has 5 HDD drive trays, that is rare today, the only issues are lack of usbc and it has usb 2 rather than enough usb 3 ports
Good vid that. I resurrected a Q6600/P5K build I havent used for 5 years. Chuck in some more ram, add an SSD and W10 and its rocking! I keep meaning to swap the case from its Cosmos S monstrosity but that will have to wait for better times.
I love this rebuild.. and adamantit do the rebuilding and its awsome. The owner and the pc is happy. Also me happy watching. All of us happy. Keep up the good work sir adamantit! Love your vids!
35:00 I used the same motherboard for a long time. I had to use an add in sound card since the onboard had a short or issue somewhere that would cause the audio device to constantly connect and disconnect in windows. In the end I disabled the onboard audio in the BIOs to keep this from happening.
@@craigmurray4746 my model was the -LK. my system was stable for a long time as well and still is! I've passed it off to a family member who enjoys a number of older games.
@@45Lotos Yip, it's one of the reasons along with my even older P5WDH board that sold me on Asus stability and performance and features. To me most other board vendors often end up getting negatively pre-judged because they not Asus lol
@@craigmurray4746 Agreed. though i've switched to MSI for this generation and i'm quite happy with their support. Specifically with their steady flow of BIOs updates for AM4 boards.
i've seen a lot of people argue over sound cards with modern motherboard so i decided to test for myself and bought a sound blaster AE-5, and i must say that even with the limited features it has, the difference is night and day, what i cant tel is how much of the difference is software and how much is hardware, but still, the difference is there.
love the vids buddy!! love to se the builds and unfortunately all the troubleshooting but that's a great part of your channel and maybe a vid will help me and hopefully someone else !! thanks for the great content!!
I had a Corsair 600T which was also made in that "USB3 is a thing people are starting to want but not yet an expected standard feature" era and it also had a long pass-thru cable designed to plug into a USB3 port on the back of your motherboard. Being a fairly inexperienced builder at the time (it was my second case ever), and being only dimly aware of what USB3 even was, it took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out what to do with that cable.
The number in metric system is referring to the diameter of the screw, if it is M3 it means the diameter is 3mm, apply the same logic for every Metric screw. Conclusion: Metric > Imperial :- )
Yeah I don't know why all the mainstream builders recommend using the pea method? It straight up is the worst of them. I'm pretty new to PC building but I was able to find a video on UA-cam pretty quickly when I was building my PC, that showed exactly how the thermal paste spreads and then showed the temps of the thermal tests. And the pea method was by far the worst. X pattern was the best and the 3 lines was second best. Manually spreading it is also better than the pea method.
For my old pc i had a thermaltake case from this era when cases were plastic, edgy, mysterious, and gamer! It also collects crazy dust because of terrible airflow. I also had the psu "upside down" to exhaust from the case. Good times.
Just refreshed my 7 year old sons PC with a new case, a Cooler Master Q500L. I chose it for wall mounting and flexibility in fan, power supply, and front IO mounting. Air flow is restrictive but not bad for a low powered PC.
I thought about putting a sound card in my pc but not for sure now. I'm running with a i7 9700K and MB is msi z390 gaming edge ac. Speakers are the logitech z623 2.1 ch
There's this one very legit logic, but also, some clients just leave foils be and never remove them! So... pros and cons. One particular product category i HATE seeing foiled from the factory is routers. Oh, when the client returned it year and half later with warranty claims, still foiled, dusty and browned up 🤦♂️
After some time now, what do you think about the electric screw driver, is it worth the buck? It seems really useful but I wouldn't want to spend money on something that wouldn't last long term.
I've continued to brutalise it, using it to undo screws that are waaaay to tight for it (fan screws and stuff) and it hasn't broken yet. For £30, if it lasts a year then I reckon it did well. I don't think it's a must-have tool, but it does make the hum-drum legwork like mobo screws really easy.
Bryan from tech yes City here in Aust uses a water dispersant spray to clean off the components and then uses compressed air to blow it dry ..makes for a real clean mobo .. worth taking a look.. its actually a really cheap item from a auto shop locally lol
really nice, if i was the owner of that system the only thing i'd add to that is some black/blue extension cables for the power supply and some blue plastidip on that soundcard....all black and blue everything
I have yet to have any problems whatsoever with my "do not care" attitude toward static, and I've been building this way for nearly twenty years now. Your mileage may vary.
i just did this with my desktop today put it all in a new lian li O11D dynamic case with a ton of QL120 fans and a hx850i psu since the old thermaltake had a dead 12 volt rail
The thermal paste is right where you left it. Seriously though I would consider doing something to avoid breathing in that dust from peoples computers.
The RAM was actually originally misplaced : it should've been placed in the DIMM2 x DIMM4 slots but it was placed in DIMM1 x DIMM3. A bit of an oversight here but still, really cool case swap!
WHen the PC came to me it was in 1&2 and single channel. I wasn't sure what the numbering was so I went 1&3. I checked CPU-Z in windows afterwards and confirmed that it's in dual-channel, so ether way it's all good.
The system is dual dual channel, which is why it has 4 DIMM slots. One channel is slot 1&3, the other 2&4. If you only have 2 RAM sticks it's suggested to do 2&4 but 1&3 will work just fine.
Nice video. I recently did much the same to an even older motherboard and case. I would suggest that the power cable to the GPU would have been better coming from the back grommet, not the bottom one. For a Brucie Bonus you could use a 90 degree ATX power adapter for the motherboard and 180 degree adapter for the GPU. (I'd add in EPS too but I've yet to find a supplier.) Assuming the customer was willing to pay, of course!
That cpu and motherboard look almost familiar. I just replaced my working i7-3770K with Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe from 2012. Now with a i7-12700K on a Asus Rog Strix Z690-E. I still have the old pc. Still works. But was do an upgrade after almost 9 years of daily use. Those i7's and Asus motherboards last.
Hahaha, thank you for addressing my OCD regarding replacing the CPU thermal paste. I say if you are going to do a rebuild with both older newer parts, do it right. Yes I am one of those...
He always takes the time to completely re-do the cable management on cases that don't have windows and will never be looked in by their owners but he wants to save 30 seconds by not replacing 10 year old thermal paste. There's something very very wrong with that.
Yeah, one of those people who take pride in their work, right? ;P I would've changed the thermal paste of the mobo chipset as well, it's the details...
I enjoy your videos sir, you give most excellent tips. May I suggest 2 tips- remove North/South bridge heatsinks and clean then apply thermal paste, remove PSU fan and clean then reoil. Keep up good work..
ASUS Xonar Essence STX for example makes huge difference on modern mobo even with more standard headphones. You can change the Op-Amps for different sound :)
I have that same Sound Blaster Z sound card in my new MSI build it's got the best sound I have ever heard planning to upgrade it to a higher end Sound Blaster card soon
The P8Z77 is the "best" 3rd gen mobo from Asus, I belive, if you are into overclocking. I have the P8Z68-V LE. Recently I stuck an i7-3770 into it, 32GB 1600Mhz RAM running at 1333Mhz with all 4 sticks, which are no way near the QVL list... Stuck a GTX1060 3GB into it. I run Win 11 of a 240GB Kingston SATA3 drive and have a 960GB Kingston SATA3 scratch disk. Granted it has some newer parts, but in its heart this is a 2013ish rig. And it still runs AMAZING. I edit in Davinci Resolve Studio and run AAA games on 1080p mid-high settings. Considering an upgrade to a 1060 6GB because of some issues rendering 4k vids. But my point is, from this mobo you can still, in 2023, get a viable build. Which amazes me, to be honest.
I prefer the cross pattern as well. Interestingly enough I watched a video of someone applying thermal paste against an acrylic plate and out of all the methods the cross gave the fullest coverage.
A quick question I would like to know from you what are the possible causes when the computer has a problem with a black screen and the maximum power of the video card? He made such a video where he explains the causes of this problem ?
I went full stupid and dumped a 2080 Super on my 4790K. But you know what? it's nice! may be bottlenecked by the CPU but all the games I tried so far look gorgeous in 1440p. Might drag it on to the next build but see no reason to move to a new platform yet.
The "load balancing" on PSU's is rather simple. There really is no balancing at all. Inside a PSU like the Antec there is only a single 12V rail coming from the secondary of the transformer that can deliver say 80A before tripping over current protection. Then this single real rail passes trough 4 separate over current protection circuits each set to trip at 40A, creating 4 virtual 40A rails. Thus you can load any of these virtual rails up to 40A with a maximum of 80A for all 4 combined.
Can you please tell me if Deepcool cases are any good? And speaking of Zalman, is N3 a good case? It seems to have a good metal but it's fans are useless and have LEDs on them (which is minus for me). Are there any good cheap fans?
once my sister gave me her old pc that had a soundcard but it never worked(worked once but then stopped working), so I removed it and stuck with the onboard audio instead
From what i have seen over the last couple of years is that the CD rom drive is starting to vanish from systems now, i have even saw some of the latest cases don't even have 3inch bays for the mechanical drives now.
They seem to be pretty good. I usually never seem them until they're about this old, which is a good sign that they haven't broken down after 18months.
Yeah, same thing. Why does CPU fan blow inside the case? Or it blow out, but it has installed on the other side of radiator. If you does it for money, why you don't do this correctly? Seems people here don't bother at all...
Yea, it sits with a gap around the edge by design. The filter is flush to the frame of the chassis, so it still catches all air going in, regardless of how it passes around the front panel.
@@EvilTurkeySlices No the new MSI the two modules by the PCIe slot have a strip a cm wide and across both modules on the very edge completely missing the center. This will kill modules real quick.
I have an i7 3770 cpu with 16gb ddr3 ram and a 630gt graphics card on a pcie 2 motherboard. What would you suggest to upgrade the graphics card to max outperformance considering the pcie2 board?
Well, I'd buy the best graphics card you can afford, because you can keep it when you upgrade your CPU later. Lot of people complain about CPU bottlenecks when I put new GPUs in old PCs around here, forgetting that you don't need to bin the GPU when you get a new CPU/mobo/ram.
I just put a GTX 760 2GB with an i7-3820 and there is so much headroom for the CPU i'm considering an RX 480 or a GTX 970 4GB to pair with it for more balance. I reckon you'd probably need a 1070 8GB or better to 50-50 or bottleneck those CPUs.
But yeah, for newer games and for longevity you're probably better off with the best newest card you can afford, can put into a new system if needs be. Personally VRAM wise, i'd go at least 4GB and preferably 8GB. Depends on your budget i guess
Adamant IT I just built a ryzen 3700x with a 2080 super. I was looking to improve the old computer. My concern is wasting money on a great card in a pcie2 slot. What would be the fastest card I could use that wouldn’t be bottlenecked by the pcie2 slot.
Hmm I don't like those transformers look cases and that board (mine is a straight -V with an i5 3570K) is the same as my main machine and has caused me any issues bar a new BIOS chip about four years ago and in a Coolermaster HAF XM case (best case ever made) and I love it. So it was good to see what you thought about the set up although in hindsight I should have gone with an i7 like the one in this machine. Mind you you might go ape over the Corsair HX 1040 PSU I put in in it (it was on offer LOL!!)
Hi ya iv got a i7 6700k and GTX 1080 with 16GB of ram. On a H110 msi gaming motherboard pro. I want to upgrade my motherboard! So I can upgrade my ram as well! But I do not know what motherboard to get? Any help would be much appreciated 😉
I know this is an old Video but my Novatech 750W Black Series PSU went "BANG" - (literally) at 7 years old! Fortunately it didn't damage anything else! And it was noisy for a while before it blew.... Also I'm sure you have mounted the Gelid CPU Cooler, (a Tranquillo-4 I believe) the wrong way around....???
What seems like an obvious question, but a not so obvious answer: Were they using a surge protector? Thank you for removing some of that paste, it did have me a little triggered... I can't believe something was so happy with their cable management they sealed them in position with cable ties. Why would someone use Molex fans🤷♂️ You're right about the urge to upgrade, I'm using a case from 2011 (and still using the same PSU from 2011 until earlier this year, OCZ so a solid brand and totally safe in a £2k machine). Fractal hasn't really changed their design so it looks new! (if you don't see the eSATA port), never a fan of the HAF/ rugged style (or the current TUF trend). PS: A roll of velcro tape = Near infinite reusable cable ties.🤘
I think they weren't. There's been a few people in recently with lightning damage from some storms a few weeks ago, I've observed that they didn't have surge protectors. I'm being more militant about telling people to buy them now. Quite a few jobs where I've looked at it and thought 'this would've been fine if they had a $10 surge strip.'
The Amazon Basics surge protector is a WAY better value than anything I can find in the Seattle area hardware and tech stores. Just subbed today- thanks for the video!
Just FYI, a surge protector only protects against voltage spikes, NOT against lightening strikes. The only protection from lightening is to unplug your system.
Currently doing my first from scratch PC build im pretty confused by fans of all things, Bought 2 corsair LL fans so far for the front. Back of the box says rated current is 0.3a and leds at 0.62a the motherboard manual dosent specifiy what the rated current is for fan headers (tomahawk x570 wifi) i googled around and people seem to think it's 1 amp per header. I struggle to believe that just one of these fans would overload a header and cause damage, Can i have multiple into one header or am i just making a massive newbie mistake?
Naa. Mobo headers these days are pretty well specced, I'd believe the usual expectation of 1amp per header, otherwise I'd have blown up headers a few times by now. I'd only be concerned if I were using splitters with really high-flow fans. Eg, Noctua Industrial PPC-3000 will pull up to 0.55amps, two of those on one header and you're over limit already.
@@Adamant_IT Thanks so i can safely ignore the led amperage rating then. I wouldent think that just those two LL fans would be too much common sense sorta says it wouldent be. Thought id ask someone knowledgeable anway just to be sure and not potentially ruin my new 220 quid motherboard lol I will eventually have 4 fans in the rig 2 140mm front mounted. One 140mm top mounted exaust and a 120mm rear exaust ( all corsair LL series) I might put the rear one on it's own header possibly just to be safe since a few people on youtube have stated modern boards should be able to handle at least 3. Unless it's somthing like that noctua fan you mentioned. Or that one insane -10000rpm? fan i seen once on linustech tips channel.
Those Novatech black PSUs were actually pretty good. No they're not load balanced, but with a properly built system they don't need to be. Odd that that one is loud. I have the exact same PSU in my server and it's whisper quiet. That's the old layout for the FP. You can tell because the power LED has to be split.
I'm enjoying your videos. If you have time, I'd like to see a few links to the tools you use. You should consider getting a few affiliate links! Cheers
My 280X is still going strong in a friends pc in which an RX 570 died two times while covered by warranty, so it was sad for me to see that the dead gpu was a 280X. Yes, it pulls three times as much power as a gpu nowadays with that kind of performance would, but it still delivers :P
Okay, so. I might've ended up making a mistake. Getting a PC together, and I got the EVGA 650 N1... but after listening to you ramble on and then mention PSU stuff... uh. What would be best for a R3 3100 and a GTX 1080, power supply wise?
These days I'd be looking for 600-800watts, as PC power consumption is on the rise right now, so 650 will be fine. However, I'd get at least a bronze-rated supply. A 3100/1080 combo won't need much, but if you get a good PSU now, you won't have to change it if you decide to drop in a more thirsty CPU/GPU later down the line.
I love these kind of videos when old pc's are given new life.
Me 2
@Sleeping Warrior While that idea is great, in practice it doesn't work so well. Most of these old cases have terrible airflow and even worse cable management solutions.
New Case, maybe some New Fans New CPU cooler and IT Looks Like its New
The RAM is in dual-channel mode. Confirmed from windows CPU-Z. Also the CPU fan is in a pull configuration, so it's blowing air out the back of the case. Relax, you guys ;)
I can't believe that in two hours you had to do this kind of comment (which is a good sign anyway)
hope that helps
i think you have missed the point made by myself and others
no-one said it wasnt running dual channel
we pointed out the black pair of slots are not the suggested and thus more able slots to use as recommended by asus
the blue slots should be populated by two ram sticks first
likely due to better traces/paths to the cpu IMC
intro song?
Yep Asus tend to use the slots further away from the CPU unsure if this is common with other boards (but only matters if the ram is been overclocked witch I would guess this case it isn't)
Thoughtful pauses to take note and explanations on important nitpicks that are always overlooked everywhere else but make a worlds difference when actually doing it. Brilliant
With PSU fan up, you eliminate the worry of blocking airflow to the PSU. Carpet being a big problem.
When I upgraded, I put taller feet onto the case bottom.
@@kodonosaki7342 good idea
Two issues with psu being up is you have to be careful of wires going into fan of psu causing a clicking noise and wires not reaching behind motherboard like cpu power cables.
Not a fan 😁 of this orientation because of previous experiences with dust, bugs, liquids, cables, coins, bolts, plastic pieces, rat piss/feces and so on getting into the fan. I prefer the extra PSU short-protection from the human virus ;P
Not a fan of psu fan up because then it competes with the GPU about incoming fresh air... When there's no carpet, you should always install your PSU fan facing down
that sneeze was a star of the show
wait what?! What time-stamp? I thought I edited out all the sneezes!
@@Adamant_IT 12:15 it's just awesome, I am glad it wasn't removed
Oh no 😂
Everything from 11:35 to 12:35 was supposed to get cut, but I must've forgotten to hit delete on the section. At least it's only 1m.
@@Adamant_IT It was a glorious sneeze! Happy you left it in. Gives the video more personality. Also it wasn't a gross sneeze. it passes, np.
Here, here. Let's keep in all the sneezes. I wish I had a nickel for every time I sneezed while working on a computer. In fact, I need to Hoover my floor right now.
I just did this to my old X79 i7 3820+ GTX 1060 6GB pc. And i had a GTX 660 Before that one xD.
Upgraded to aCorsair R275 Case, added some fans, and bought a 2070 super
Waitigin for Zen 3 to upgrade the rest of the pc
2:25 "Disenfranchised might not be the word"
You were right about that! It's disenchanted lol.
Greetings from Italy! I started looking at your youtube channel a few months ago! You seems very professional, i haven't find something similar in my language so i look at your videos very gladly! Bravo!!
That's a Sound Blaster Z which in my opinion puts to shame most modern onboard sound solutions as well. Have one just like that from back when I had a 4th gen Intel and it's still miles better than the onboard solution on my current Ryzen 3000/x570 platform.
I'm on that platform, too. Which board have you got?
@@jragonwriter6316 Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
I love your complete indifference to static and thermal paste application. So refreshingly British.
Static in a country with 80% humidity, you’re hilarious. Also, modern components are more resilient than you give them credit for.
He is right about a case difference may make it seem faster. My spare desktop is from 2007, it runs decently, but it isn't the case making that one seem slow. Its windows 10 and a 1 core 2ghz amd cpu. But anyway Great video Adam!
I bought the Corsair 275R in black for a new build. I liked it so much, I bought another one in white for a second build. Probably, one of the best bang for buck cases on the market. The only con I could list is that the Corsair fans are very loud. I replaced them with Silent Wings 3 and Arctic P12s on the AIOs. I totally agree about the owners original case. Not my style. Thanks for sharing. Came out really clean but this case has lots of slots and covers on the wire pass throughs. Its the little things that you will appreciate if you are coming from a really old\budget case.
People will always have comments about how other people build pc's, i also build a pc, when they will see the inside of my retro sleeper, they will cringe and tell me this and that, but the fact is, it works, temps are good, and the airflow is nice and quiet, thats all that mathers, i do not care what others say about my build, it works for me and since it is in a very old pentium 3 case and they see windows 10 on it with a modern core i series chip and a gtx graphics card (not mentioning my specs here because they do not mather to anyone else), they are stunned, so yeah, whatever works for you is all that mathers! Great video man!
The screws are size 6, with a thread pitch of 32 threads per inch. So they are 6-32 screws. You can get screws that are the same size but different thread pitches. For one example 10-24 and 10-32 are both relatively common.
So the GPU is Kaputt... Again a german term. Again i grin about it 😅
I really like your Channel since i hit it Graham. I came for the BRB's, got fascinated by the LFC's and now i inhale all of your content. Keep it up! Your content rocks
Hi, german here. At first I thought my brain is broken, but then I realised he really said kaputt. Is it something similar like Gesundheit or Kindergarten? I often hear these words in the english language
@@MrTommyGeek i don't have any clue 😅 bin selbst deutscher. Graham sagt auch gern Schmutz und empfindet es nicht als Fremdwort 😉 hatte das Thema schon in nem anderen Video mit ihm.
@@marcelsimon6425 Haha, ist ja cool. Schmutz ist mir auch schon aufgefallen, aber ich dachte da echt nicht an unser deutsches Wort Schmutz, eher an irgendeinen englischen Slang ^^
I use the Soundblaster Z in a fairly new gaming and entertainment computer Ryzen7 5800x. The reason I still use it is because it outputs true 5.1 (wish it was 7.1) signal on the optical port s/pdif out. As where most of the onboard sound cards with s/pdif out don't output surround signal only stereo signal on their optical port. Great Vids !! Cheer's !!
I kind of feel cheated wanted to see the dust before you gave it the compressor treatment everyone loves watching a good dust blasting with Mr Compressor. I loved the way you sneezed on your sleeve then wiped the customers SSD with the same sleeve you just blasted with your nose junk no added charge for that LOL. You may want to run a virus check on the SSD drive. With a dusty motherboard I normally spray a paintbrush with isopropyl alcohol until the brush is moist not drenched then work the board with the brush then give the board half hour to completely dry gives it that factory fresh glossy finish. I have done that trick for years also on graphics card PCBs without any issues. I am loving the content tho but please keep the normal intro that's your trademark Adam don't change anything because your getting subs and watchers because your genuine. Lot of modders love them old case's like that for projects....
I have my psu mounted with the fan down above aluminium mesh running across the bottom of case. Case is sat on the floor on short pile carpet. When I first put it together I thought the psu would get full of dust pretty quickly with the fan pointed down but Its been great. I normally blow the dust out of the pc every couple of months with an air line" had computers since the 80's and never had a problem". A lot of dust comes out of the inside of the case but nothing comes out of the psu always spotless .Power supply has upgraded 140mm fan installed and it moves a lot of air! I installed it this way as my graphic card temps reduced by 7-10 degrees compared to having the fan on top.
But I love my Zalman Z11 case, esp with good airflow, it is from around 2012
what do you mean about expandability? It has 5 HDD drive trays, that is rare today,
the only issues are lack of usbc and it has usb 2 rather than enough usb 3 ports
I only found your channel yesterday but I can't stop watching. Keep up the good work! :)
I had one of those cases, bought it in 2010, however was only able to scrap it this year! So glad to get rid of it.
Good vid that. I resurrected a Q6600/P5K build I havent used for 5 years. Chuck in some more ram, add an SSD and W10 and its rocking! I keep meaning to swap the case from its Cosmos S monstrosity but that will have to wait for better times.
I love this rebuild.. and adamantit do the rebuilding and its awsome. The owner and the pc is happy. Also me happy watching. All of us happy. Keep up the good work sir adamantit! Love your vids!
35:00 I used the same motherboard for a long time. I had to use an add in sound card since the onboard had a short or issue somewhere that would cause the audio device to constantly connect and disconnect in windows. In the end I disabled the onboard audio in the BIOs to keep this from happening.
My -V Deluxe model eventually had the onboard wifi die on me, so had to get an add in card. Otherwise systen was super stable for 7 years worth of use
@@craigmurray4746 my model was the -LK. my system was stable for a long time as well and still is! I've passed it off to a family member who enjoys a number of older games.
@@45Lotos Yip, it's one of the reasons along with my even older P5WDH board that sold me on Asus stability and performance and features. To me most other board vendors often end up getting negatively pre-judged because they not Asus lol
@@craigmurray4746 Agreed. though i've switched to MSI for this generation and i'm quite happy with their support. Specifically with their steady flow of BIOs updates for AM4 boards.
good video... Learn a lot from it. I have done my first PC assembling in year 2005(around). I have build Intel Pentium IV in 5-6 mins...
guy i love the way you work you look you check and solve ! keep going guy !!!!
i've seen a lot of people argue over sound cards with modern motherboard so i decided to test for myself and bought a sound blaster AE-5, and i must say that even with the limited features it has, the difference is night and day, what i cant tel is how much of the difference is software and how much is hardware, but still, the difference is there.
love the vids buddy!! love to se the builds and unfortunately all the troubleshooting but that's a great part of your channel and maybe a vid will help me and hopefully someone else !! thanks for the great content!!
I had a Corsair 600T which was also made in that "USB3 is a thing people are starting to want but not yet an expected standard feature" era and it also had a long pass-thru cable designed to plug into a USB3 port on the back of your motherboard. Being a fairly inexperienced builder at the time (it was my second case ever), and being only dimly aware of what USB3 even was, it took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out what to do with that cable.
The number in metric system is referring to the diameter of the screw, if it is M3 it means the diameter is 3mm, apply the same logic for every Metric screw.
Conclusion: Metric > Imperial :- )
Thanks I will do the x mark the spot from now on. I usually do the pea method. I will give it a try to the x method.
Yeah I don't know why all the mainstream builders recommend using the pea method? It straight up is the worst of them. I'm pretty new to PC building but I was able to find a video on UA-cam pretty quickly when I was building my PC, that showed exactly how the thermal paste spreads and then showed the temps of the thermal tests. And the pea method was by far the worst. X pattern was the best and the 3 lines was second best. Manually spreading it is also better than the pea method.
For my old pc i had a thermaltake case from this era when cases were plastic, edgy, mysterious, and gamer! It also collects crazy dust because of terrible airflow. I also had the psu "upside down" to exhaust from the case. Good times.
I think we can all squarely blame alienware for that trend.
Just refreshed my 7 year old sons PC with a new case, a Cooler Master Q500L. I chose it for wall mounting and flexibility in fan, power supply, and front IO mounting. Air flow is restrictive but not bad for a low powered PC.
Just did similar with my i7-4790k (2015), new shinny case and cooler. Good video.
I thought about putting a sound card in my pc but not for sure now. I'm running with a i7 9700K and MB is msi z390 gaming edge ac. Speakers are the logitech z623 2.1 ch
Good job! I would have left the peal for the customer, but that’s just me :-)
It was satisfying to watch though :)
There's this one very legit logic, but also, some clients just leave foils be and never remove them! So... pros and cons. One particular product category i HATE seeing foiled from the factory is routers. Oh, when the client returned it year and half later with warranty claims, still foiled, dusty and browned up 🤦♂️
After some time now, what do you think about the electric screw driver, is it worth the buck? It seems really useful but I wouldn't want to spend money on something that wouldn't last long term.
I've continued to brutalise it, using it to undo screws that are waaaay to tight for it (fan screws and stuff) and it hasn't broken yet. For £30, if it lasts a year then I reckon it did well. I don't think it's a must-have tool, but it does make the hum-drum legwork like mobo screws really easy.
@@Adamant_IT Thanks for the detailed answer, I really appreciate it!
Bryan from tech yes City here in Aust uses a water dispersant spray to clean off the components and then uses compressed air to blow it dry ..makes for a real clean mobo .. worth taking a look.. its actually a really cheap item from a auto shop locally lol
my old case was a 275R airflow... be very careful not to let those screws strip the aluminum threads on the chassis.
really nice, if i was the owner of that system the only thing i'd add to that is some black/blue extension cables for the power supply and some blue plastidip on that soundcard....all black and blue everything
Any chance of a link to that electric screw driver you got? Looks great.
I got two PC's from the tip the other week. They've got some good components in with the old, so this video is up my street.
Great content sir, TY and keep it up!
That's a piece of carpet right? You're allowed to do that? Won't there be static build up? Thanks!
I have yet to have any problems whatsoever with my "do not care" attitude toward static, and I've been building this way for nearly twenty years now. Your mileage may vary.
@@Adamant_IT Thank you!
Adam, have you tried to use nitrilr glovr to spread the thermal paste with your finger and then chuck the used glove.
This video motivates me to do the same on an old PC I have laying around here!
Thanks!!
i just did this with my desktop today put it all in a new lian li O11D dynamic case with a ton of QL120 fans and a hx850i psu since the old thermaltake had a dead 12 volt rail
Thanks man, great video as always. As a fellow pc repair guy I can confirm how good Mr Sheen is , lol. Brilliant stuff.
the fact that the cooler is saying “don’t worry” (probably means silent instead) while talking about the thermal paste pattern
The thermal paste is right where you left it. Seriously though I would consider doing something to avoid breathing in that dust from peoples computers.
meh breathing in strange dust is good for your immune system!!
and puts hair on your chest!!
The RAM was actually originally misplaced : it should've been placed in the DIMM2 x DIMM4 slots but it was placed in DIMM1 x DIMM3. A bit of an oversight here but still, really cool case swap!
Yep, it was bothering me enough that I checked the mobo manual online, RAM should be in the blue slots.
@@Gassit I actually did the same thing but I didn't write it 'casue I thgout people would think I was crazy or some shit 😂
WHen the PC came to me it was in 1&2 and single channel. I wasn't sure what the numbering was so I went 1&3.
I checked CPU-Z in windows afterwards and confirmed that it's in dual-channel, so ether way it's all good.
@@Adamant_IT Ah OK as long as it was running dual channel that's the important thing.
The system is dual dual channel, which is why it has 4 DIMM slots. One channel is slot 1&3, the other 2&4. If you only have 2 RAM sticks it's suggested to do 2&4 but 1&3 will work just fine.
Nice video. I recently did much the same to an even older motherboard and case.
I would suggest that the power cable to the GPU would have been better coming from the back grommet, not the bottom one. For a Brucie Bonus you could use a 90 degree ATX power adapter for the motherboard and 180 degree adapter for the GPU. (I'd add in EPS too but I've yet to find a supplier.) Assuming the customer was willing to pay, of course!
You need a affiliate link to the furniture polish.
For the record, i usually give you crap for something in your video, but i really enjoyed this one. Well done and great build.
6:50 "Produces more heat than a small star"
gonna steal that saying
That "cable management" on the old case hurt a little bit inside. Mighty fine work.
What brand/model is that electric screwdriver? Looks super useful.
Any advise for a new case which will house the corsair h80i v2 + ASUS sabretooth z77 mother board + ZOTAC Geforce 980 amp edition
That cpu and motherboard look almost familiar. I just replaced my working i7-3770K with Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe from 2012. Now with a i7-12700K on a Asus Rog Strix Z690-E. I still have the old pc. Still works. But was do an upgrade after almost 9 years of daily use. Those i7's and Asus motherboards last.
Hahaha, thank you for addressing my OCD regarding replacing the CPU thermal paste. I say if you are going to do a rebuild with both older newer parts, do it right. Yes I am one of those...
He always takes the time to completely re-do the cable management on cases that don't have windows and will never be looked in by their owners but he wants to save 30 seconds by not replacing 10 year old thermal paste. There's something very very wrong with that.
Yeah, one of those people who take pride in their work, right? ;P I would've changed the thermal paste of the mobo chipset as well, it's the details...
I enjoy your videos sir, you give most excellent tips. May I suggest 2 tips- remove North/South bridge heatsinks and clean then apply thermal paste, remove PSU fan and clean then reoil. Keep up good work..
Can you share some tips or a good link about how to re-oil the fan?
ASUS Xonar Essence STX for example makes huge difference on modern mobo even with more standard headphones. You can change the Op-Amps for different sound :)
Wow, awesome rebuild! Looks great too. Dutch regards, Nico.
just wondering why didnt u replace the settings bettery
I have that same Sound Blaster Z sound card in my new MSI build it's got the best sound I have ever heard planning to upgrade it to a higher end Sound Blaster card soon
The P8Z77 is the "best" 3rd gen mobo from Asus, I belive, if you are into overclocking. I have the P8Z68-V LE. Recently I stuck an i7-3770 into it, 32GB 1600Mhz RAM running at 1333Mhz with all 4 sticks, which are no way near the QVL list... Stuck a GTX1060 3GB into it. I run Win 11 of a 240GB Kingston SATA3 drive and have a 960GB Kingston SATA3 scratch disk. Granted it has some newer parts, but in its heart this is a 2013ish rig. And it still runs AMAZING. I edit in Davinci Resolve Studio and run AAA games on 1080p mid-high settings. Considering an upgrade to a 1060 6GB because of some issues rendering 4k vids. But my point is, from this mobo you can still, in 2023, get a viable build. Which amazes me, to be honest.
I prefer the cross pattern as well. Interestingly enough I watched a video of someone applying thermal paste against an acrylic plate and out of all the methods the cross gave the fullest coverage.
A quick question I would like to know from you what are the possible causes when the computer has a problem with a black screen and the maximum power of the video card? He made such a video where he explains the causes of this problem ?
Oh excellent, thats the case I have! My I7-4790 is still rocking along
Same here. Paired it with an RX580
I like u guys
I went full stupid and dumped a 2080 Super on my 4790K. But you know what? it's nice! may be bottlenecked by the CPU but all the games I tried so far look gorgeous in 1440p. Might drag it on to the next build but see no reason to move to a new platform yet.
the spoolup at 12:12 got me haha
The "load balancing" on PSU's is rather simple. There really is no balancing at all. Inside a PSU like the Antec there is only a single 12V rail coming from the secondary of the transformer that can deliver say 80A before tripping over current protection. Then this single real rail passes trough 4 separate over current protection circuits each set to trip at 40A, creating 4 virtual 40A rails. Thus you can load any of these virtual rails up to 40A with a maximum of 80A for all 4 combined.
That's the clearest explanation of it I've heard, great info. I knew it was something along those lines, but not the specifics.
Nice to see that old build get a touch up.
Hi it looks like you can instal 2x 3.5" hard drives and 4x 2.5" hard drives in that case
That is a nice little power driver you are using
Can you please tell me if Deepcool cases are any good? And speaking of Zalman, is N3 a good case? It seems to have a good metal but it's fans are useless and have LEDs on them (which is minus for me). Are there any good cheap fans?
I have no experience with either of them I'm afraid!
once my sister gave me her old pc that had a soundcard but it never worked(worked once but then stopped working), so I removed it and stuck with the onboard audio instead
From what i have seen over the last couple of years is that the CD rom drive is starting to vanish from systems now, i have even saw some of the latest cases don't even have 3inch bays for the mechanical drives now.
Very nice (re)build, and can we assume you installed the graphics card drivers off-camera?
Yea software stuff gets done later 👌
What's your opinion on those Novatech builds?
They seem to be pretty good. I usually never seem them until they're about this old, which is a good sign that they haven't broken down after 18months.
@@Adamant_IT I love u
Sorry if someone already asked you, but where did you get that nice little wireless screwdriver?
excellent video on refreshing old pc!!
pretty sure that cpu cooler is installed backwards.
Yeah, same thing. Why does CPU fan blow inside the case? Or it blow out, but it has installed on the other side of radiator. If you does it for money, why you don't do this correctly? Seems people here don't bother at all...
avo. all :-) Zalman also available with dust ... is the new case / chassis Front Panel on correctly?
Yea, it sits with a gap around the edge by design. The filter is flush to the frame of the chassis, so it still catches all air going in, regardless of how it passes around the front panel.
@@Adamant_IT I saw you put the front fanel rear side on must've taken my eyes of the screen when you did the window side, he he he :-)
What is the name of the new case again?
275R Airflow
@@audr3l1s Thank you
I do this all the time to flip PC's good on you Andrew
That GPU is a nightmare. The cooler doesn't completely cover two of the memory modules.
ha ha ha! :-)
Which one? The old one or new one?
@@EvilTurkeySlices No the new MSI the two modules by the PCIe slot have a strip a cm wide and across both modules on the very edge completely missing the center. This will kill modules real quick.
No expandibility? I've two water coolers in my Z11+, 3 HDD.. All cable managed...
240mm rads? I've managed to put one up top before, but I had to trim the top plastic louvers to fit fans under them.
I have an i7 3770 cpu with 16gb ddr3 ram and a 630gt graphics card on a pcie 2 motherboard. What would you suggest to upgrade the graphics card to max outperformance considering the pcie2 board?
Well, I'd buy the best graphics card you can afford, because you can keep it when you upgrade your CPU later. Lot of people complain about CPU bottlenecks when I put new GPUs in old PCs around here, forgetting that you don't need to bin the GPU when you get a new CPU/mobo/ram.
I just put a GTX 760 2GB with an i7-3820 and there is so much headroom for the CPU i'm considering an RX 480 or a GTX 970 4GB to pair with it for more balance. I reckon you'd probably need a 1070 8GB or better to 50-50 or bottleneck those CPUs.
But yeah, for newer games and for longevity you're probably better off with the best newest card you can afford, can put into a new system if needs be.
Personally VRAM wise, i'd go at least 4GB and preferably 8GB. Depends on your budget i guess
Adamant IT I just built a ryzen 3700x with a 2080 super. I was looking to improve the old computer. My concern is wasting money on a great card in a pcie2 slot. What would be the fastest card I could use that wouldn’t be bottlenecked by the pcie2 slot.
Mark Cowburn I’m not worried about bottlenecking the cpu. I’m worried about bottlenecking through the pcie2 slot
Hmm I don't like those transformers look cases and that board (mine is a straight -V with an i5 3570K) is the same as my main machine and has caused me any issues bar a new BIOS chip about four years ago and in a Coolermaster HAF XM case (best case ever made) and I love it. So it was good to see what you thought about the set up although in hindsight I should have gone with an i7 like the one in this machine. Mind you you might go ape over the Corsair HX 1040 PSU I put in in it (it was on offer LOL!!)
Nice work,looks a lot better👍
Hi ya iv got a i7 6700k and GTX 1080 with 16GB of ram. On a H110 msi gaming motherboard pro. I want to upgrade my motherboard! So I can upgrade my ram as well! But I do not know what motherboard to get? Any help would be much appreciated 😉
I know this is an old Video but my Novatech 750W Black Series PSU went "BANG" - (literally) at 7 years old! Fortunately it didn't damage anything else! And it was noisy for a while before it blew....
Also I'm sure you have mounted the Gelid CPU Cooler, (a Tranquillo-4 I believe) the wrong way around....???
What seems like an obvious question, but a not so obvious answer: Were they using a surge protector?
Thank you for removing some of that paste, it did have me a little triggered... I can't believe something was so happy with their cable management they sealed them in position with cable ties. Why would someone use Molex fans🤷♂️
You're right about the urge to upgrade, I'm using a case from 2011 (and still using the same PSU from 2011 until earlier this year, OCZ so a solid brand and totally safe in a £2k machine). Fractal hasn't really changed their design so it looks new! (if you don't see the eSATA port), never a fan of the HAF/ rugged style (or the current TUF trend).
PS: A roll of velcro tape = Near infinite reusable cable ties.🤘
I think they weren't. There's been a few people in recently with lightning damage from some storms a few weeks ago, I've observed that they didn't have surge protectors. I'm being more militant about telling people to buy them now. Quite a few jobs where I've looked at it and thought 'this would've been fine if they had a $10 surge strip.'
The Amazon Basics surge protector is a WAY better value than anything I can find in the Seattle area hardware and tech stores. Just subbed today- thanks for the video!
Just FYI, a surge protector only protects against voltage spikes, NOT against lightening strikes. The only protection from lightening is to unplug your system.
ive done the same thing in the past, new case ...... it really does feel like a new system
Currently doing my first from scratch PC build im pretty confused by fans of all things, Bought 2 corsair LL fans so far for the front. Back of the box says rated current is 0.3a and leds at 0.62a the motherboard manual dosent specifiy what the rated current is for fan headers (tomahawk x570 wifi) i googled around and people seem to think it's 1 amp per header. I struggle to believe that just one of these fans would overload a header and cause damage, Can i have multiple into one header or am i just making a massive newbie mistake?
Naa. Mobo headers these days are pretty well specced, I'd believe the usual expectation of 1amp per header, otherwise I'd have blown up headers a few times by now. I'd only be concerned if I were using splitters with really high-flow fans. Eg, Noctua Industrial PPC-3000 will pull up to 0.55amps, two of those on one header and you're over limit already.
@@Adamant_IT Thanks so i can safely ignore the led amperage rating then. I wouldent think that just those two LL fans would be too much common sense sorta says it wouldent be. Thought id ask someone knowledgeable anway just to be sure and not potentially ruin my new 220 quid motherboard lol I will eventually have 4 fans in the rig 2 140mm front mounted. One 140mm top mounted exaust and a 120mm rear exaust ( all corsair LL series) I might put the rear one on it's own header possibly just to be safe since a few people on youtube have stated modern boards should be able to handle at least 3. Unless it's somthing like that noctua fan you mentioned. Or that one insane -10000rpm? fan i seen once on linustech tips channel.
Very nice content and some good advice. Only one gripe: where did you leave the RGB? ;-)
Those Novatech black PSUs were actually pretty good. No they're not load balanced, but with a properly built system they don't need to be. Odd that that one is loud. I have the exact same PSU in my server and it's whisper quiet. That's the old layout for the FP. You can tell because the power LED has to be split.
bearings are dry.
I'm enjoying your videos. If you have time, I'd like to see a few links to the tools you use. You should consider getting a few affiliate links! Cheers
My 280X is still going strong in a friends pc in which an RX 570 died two times while covered by warranty, so it was sad for me to see that the dead gpu was a 280X. Yes, it pulls three times as much power as a gpu nowadays with that kind of performance would, but it still delivers :P
Okay, so. I might've ended up making a mistake. Getting a PC together, and I got the EVGA 650 N1... but after listening to you ramble on and then mention PSU stuff... uh. What would be best for a R3 3100 and a GTX 1080, power supply wise?
These days I'd be looking for 600-800watts, as PC power consumption is on the rise right now, so 650 will be fine.
However, I'd get at least a bronze-rated supply. A 3100/1080 combo won't need much, but if you get a good PSU now, you won't have to change it if you decide to drop in a more thirsty CPU/GPU later down the line.