@@palebeachbum Bought two and they worked out great for me. No range reduction when I purchased them and 100k powertrain warranties on both. The depreciation on EVs is awesome for the 2nd owner.
In the real world Hyundai/Genesis products will charge at 100 kW at V3 Tesla Superchargers once they gain access and the public CCS chargers are almost always broken or derated.
You might check again on price. I was looking at a Model S. Then I saw the Genesis G 80 Electric. You can buy these for $50k. Much better than a models S. Check around.
Buys must be aware of Hyundai/Kia’s potential cost of battery repair/replacement 😱 There are stories of EV6 owners getting their cars totaled after minor bottom scratches, because the whole battery must be replaced at >$60k; otherwise, the owner ‘would lose all battery warranty and will be liable for any battery fires’.
That charge door seemed to be really flimsy. It also looked like the front passengers would essentially be sitting on the floor. I wonder what the comfort is like in those front seats? For $80k you should just buy a Tesla Model S.
Unless Hyundai / Kia sort out it's battery replacement pricing I wouldn't touch any EV from them. $60000 for Ioniq 5 battery then this got to be $90000 for battery replacement
There is something definitely fishy going on at Hyundai considering Tesla’s battery replacement is $20k. Wondering if Hyundai has a serious dealer problem.
That is definitely a bit strange. GMs Ultium battery is about $25K in the Hummer and Escalade I.Q. Ram will have the biggest battery on a passenger vehicle and it is about $27K.
The quote was in CAD, it was closer to $46,500 USD. Not saying there's no merit to that story but that's already being addressed and expect the resolution will make that number much more reasonable. -Travis
Kinda wished the G80 had a rear hatch like the Model S. Tbh, every sedan would be better off with a hatch. The best sedans are hatchbacks, like the Audi A7, Kia Stinger, Model S.
A hatch/liftback design expands storage options but I'm sure there's a reason it's not adopted across the board. I couldn't tell you why though. -Travis
@@GaryKetchum808 i think some old folks find it easier to close the lid of a trunk than a hatch and yes they hate mechized stuff. Theres a reason why the es exists and you mainly only see older people use it
It's very pricey for the compromises present. No frunk with that size hood, small trunk, passenger foot wells reduced, charge times not great, no folding rear seat.
This was a great review of the g80. I think it makes a great used car for someone looking to get into an electric vehicle with the same comfort and feel as a regular vehicle. Time will tell in the next 3 years for these used models.
just as I held off buying my last iPhone until they switched from Lightning to USB-C, I would hold off buying any 2024 model EV with a CCS port knowing that next year every EV in North America will likely come with a NACS port, which will be the North American standard charging format for the next decade or more. While non-NACS port is a minor feature overcome with an adapter, IMHO it's a deal killer.
It's going to take awhile for all the current charging stations to switch over but if you plan on keeping your vehicle for a long time it's worth a consideration. -Travis
With all the compromises on storage and space, this would be an excellent used value at like $40k.
Just bought a used I-Pace for that price. Waiting for used GV60s to hit that price then I'll get one of those too.
Used EVs are a poor buy. You're buying a vehicle with reduced range and closer to needing a new $60k battery, in the case of Hyundai-made vehicles.
@@palebeachbum Bought two and they worked out great for me. No range reduction when I purchased them and 100k powertrain warranties on both. The depreciation on EVs is awesome for the 2nd owner.
@@jghall00 i suppose it's fine if you don't keep them too long.
@@palebeachbum no, I only buy used. Haven't had any issues with my Bolt or i3.
In the real world Hyundai/Genesis products will charge at 100 kW at V3 Tesla Superchargers once they gain access and the public CCS chargers are almost always broken or derated.
You might check again on price. I was looking at a Model S. Then I saw the Genesis G 80 Electric. You can buy these for $50k. Much better than a models S. Check around.
Buys must be aware of Hyundai/Kia’s potential cost of battery repair/replacement 😱
There are stories of EV6 owners getting their cars totaled after minor bottom scratches, because the whole battery must be replaced at >$60k; otherwise, the owner ‘would lose all battery warranty and will be liable for any battery fires’.
That’s a first world problem
Stories= 1 story.
That's not something I've heard besides anecdotally. -Travis
@@th003g There were 3 cases in Canada recently.
So... Your insurance totals it and you get a new car. Not that big of a deal
That charge door seemed to be really flimsy. It also looked like the front passengers would essentially be sitting on the floor. I wonder what the comfort is like in those front seats? For $80k you should just buy a Tesla Model S.
There's a good argument to be made there, yes. -Travis
But the Model S is so old and tired, desperately in need of refresh/replacement.
@@zsedcify keep telling yourself that LOL
Unless Hyundai / Kia sort out it's battery replacement pricing I wouldn't touch any EV from them. $60000 for Ioniq 5 battery then this got to be $90000 for battery replacement
There is something definitely fishy going on at Hyundai considering Tesla’s battery replacement is $20k.
Wondering if Hyundai has a serious dealer problem.
That is definitely a bit strange. GMs Ultium battery is about $25K in the Hummer and Escalade I.Q. Ram will have the biggest battery on a passenger vehicle and it is about $27K.
In what situation are you replacing a battery that isn't covered by either warranty or insurance?
The quote was in CAD, it was closer to $46,500 USD. Not saying there's no merit to that story but that's already being addressed and expect the resolution will make that number much more reasonable. -Travis
I would rather buy a Tesla
It's an option. -Travis
Alex, If you're "not sure" the electric G80 would be at the top of your list, we can guarantee it would not be. 😉
Good point! -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide 😂
I like the charge door being concealed as part of the fake grill, wish the Hyundai Kona EV can do similar things
My only issue with a front charge door is that it'll be one of the first parts of the car to get dirty. -Travis
Kinda wished the G80 had a rear hatch like the Model S. Tbh, every sedan would be better off with a hatch. The best sedans are hatchbacks, like the Audi A7, Kia Stinger, Model S.
A hatch/liftback design expands storage options but I'm sure there's a reason it's not adopted across the board. I couldn't tell you why though. -Travis
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Lucid said interior noise is one factor.
Interior noise and some people just simply prefer a trunk over a hatch.
@sentryion3106 why tho. Fits so much less than a hatch. And the opening is puny.
@@GaryKetchum808 i think some old folks find it easier to close the lid of a trunk than a hatch and yes they hate mechized stuff.
Theres a reason why the es exists and you mainly only see older people use it
It's very pricey for the compromises present. No frunk with that size hood, small trunk, passenger foot wells reduced, charge times not great, no folding rear seat.
It might not be something everyone cares about, but if you do then it's good to know about. -Travis
I was the second but the first guy said he is not the first which I suppose makes me first
You should have asked, would you ever charge a Genesis G80 in your garage?
Yes. -Travis
This was a great review of the g80. I think it makes a great used car for someone looking to get into an electric vehicle with the same comfort and feel as a regular vehicle. Time will tell in the next 3 years for these used models.
Beautiful car inside and out! The driving experience is so fun and pleasant too!
It looks amazing, but I wish it had a panoramic roof available, and had better range
So the seating position is similar to a pre-2024 Tacoma?
Interesting comparison but not untrue. -Travis
@Jonathan-mp32x But accurate. They basically have you sitting just about the the floor with feet splayed out in front.
just as I held off buying my last iPhone until they switched from Lightning to USB-C, I would hold off buying any 2024 model EV with a CCS port knowing that next year every EV in North America will likely come with a NACS port, which will be the North American standard charging format for the next decade or more. While non-NACS port is a minor feature overcome with an adapter, IMHO it's a deal killer.
It's going to take awhile for all the current charging stations to switch over but if you plan on keeping your vehicle for a long time it's worth a consideration. -Travis
Not first 😢
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They want $60k for battery replacement for Ionic 5
In what situation are you replacing a battery that isn't covered by either warranty or insurance?
@@emoney1231 there are two recent cases in Canada
There's more to that story and a lot of details to be sorted out but at the very least the price was in CAD which is about $46.500 USD. -Travis
I would wait for the Cyber truck at that price
Hmmm, very different vehicle that I'm not sure many are cross shopping. -Travis
@AAutoBuyersGuide hmm, they're both EV trucks and have wheels. The cybertruck is superior in every way. Hmmm.