This is crane system, or to be more accurate it is one of the four sub sets of crane system. It's very interesting, because there is a clear genealogy from China through Higgiona, to Chojun Miyagi, to Mabuni and Motobu and then to Kuniba's father.
Actually is one of the 2 main lines of karate (Na hate and Shuri te) Na hate. The line is based on Fujian province systems like the White Crane. A simple way to distinguished from which line is a karate style, is from Shan Shin Kata (which one has the Shan Shin and which one has not. Shuri te Abounded Shan shin so its a very different line with only a few elements of Fujian Kung Fu. Naha te is Based on White Crane (and other styles, but mostly White Crane)
@@Karatekasgr Could you mean San Chin kata? That is teh Crying Crane form and a foundation of Goju form, not Shuri. But the Shuri system too has a strong roots in Crane, it's just not as obvious.
@@laurencelance586 shan chin is foundemental in white crane and in naha te line which is based mostly on white crane. Naha te styles are Goju ryu, uechi ryu for examples. Shuri te adonded shan chin and only kept some elements of fu Jian kung fu. It is a very different line with very different fighting strategy and way of fight. Shuri te styles are shotokan, shorin ryu, shorinji ryu for example. Those styles do not have the shan chin as their bases. There for they are not strongly based on fujian white crane (shan chin came from white crane, it's a form with similar meaning in Chinese, which means "three treasures" or something like that) So if a karate style practice shan chin is naha te, if not is shuri te.
@@Karatekasgr Having spent two years under Mayagi's student G. Yamaguchi, I am at least somewhat famaliar with Go Ju. The remaining 51 years of practice was in the Matsumura family system. To make sense of the history I began, some 40 plus years ago, to ernestly assemble the genealogy of the Okinawa systems. I have, to date, some 200 names in my chart. I also have some of the famalial relationships, meaning which family married into which family. Goju was inspired by Crying Crane, one of the four early sub systems of the original crane of the Southern Shao lin. The Matsumura family practice another sub system ; Feeding Crane.
@@laurencelance586 i really think there is a lack of communication here (no offense of course) i am only saying there are 2 different main lines of karate styles (Tomari te is another story) i am not denying that naha te styles (like goju ryu) are based heavily on white crane, i confirming it. I only say that shuri te is another story. To understand better what i am trying to say, here is some sources. "NAHA-TE VS. SHURI-TE Now that we have met Higaonna, we can sort out the differences between "hard” and "soft" karate. It is not clear to the casual reader that there are two very different kinds of “Okinawan karate,” with different masters, different origins, different histories, different kata, and different means of generating power. This causes a lot of confusion about "karate" history. There are, in essence, two different histories. When karate became popular in Japan in the 1920s (largely due to Funakoshi), Okinawan masters felt a bit left out. In 1926 they made an effort to organize their local arts and get some national recognition. As part of this reorganization, they coined the terms "Shuri-te," "Naha- te,” and "Tomari-te," to describe the types of karate they were teaching in these three towns. To clarify, this book is mainly concerned with the development of Shuri-te under the influence of Bushi Matsumura and Yasutsune ltosu. Shuri-te is also known as linear karate, hard-style karate, and Shorin karate. The tatemae of “Shorin” is that it refers to the original Shaolin Temple. This type of karate arose in Shuri among upper-class royal bodyguards in the 1800s. It is said to be best for people who are light and quick on their feet because it uses body momentum to generate impact. It has many long-range weapons such as oi-zuki (front punch), which require enough light to be able to see your opponent. This hard-hitting karate first appeared in the 1820s when Matsumura was young, and developed steadily through Itosu's death in 1915. In traditional shotokan karate, we continue to research and refine the Shuri-te principles to the present day. The second school of Okinawan karate is called Naha-te. It is also known as soft style karate, circular karate, or the Shorei style. "Shorei" refers to the Shorei-ji, the Southern Shaolin Temple! Naha-te is sometimes listed as a branch or example of White Crane chuan fa. It was founded by Kanryu Higaonna in 1902, and according to Nagamine was almost pure chuan fa, newly re-imported from China at that time. Higaonna emphasized body building and stationary, rooted stances. There was an emphasis on muscle power, and on keeping your hands in contact with the opponent while you fight. This lets you grapple with an opponent in the dark. For this reason, Funakoshi says that Shorei technique is best for muscular body-builders like Higaonna. Naha-te quickly evolved into Okinawan goju-ryu. The other branch of modern Naha-te is uechi-ryu, which didn't arrive in Okinawa (from China, via Japan) until 1945. Chuan fa may be ancient, but the unspoken truth of Naha-te is that it arose and was named in the 20th century. For the record, we also see other kinds of "karate'' in Japan and Okinawa, usually labeled "kenpo." These are soft-style arts based on chuan fa from China, and are only distantly related to Shuri-te. Kenpo is the Japanese pronunciation of the Chinese "chuan fa” kanji. It is a Chinese art performed in a Japanese uniform. Comparing Shuri technique with Naha is like comparing the irresistible cannonball with the immovable post, yet both are known as "karate” simply because both towns are in weaponless Okinawa. When people write about "karate,” it is important to know which kind of karate they mean. They have very little in common except for the uniform, and even that was a modern innovation. Quite a lot of rivalry arose between Shuri-te and Naha-te between 1902 and 1930 due to the extreme differences in their philosophy, origins and technique. • Naha-te arose on the grimy waterfront; Shuri-te came from a sparkling palace. That alone would cause friction. • Naha-te was rooted in muscular strength and grappling, while Shuri-te was rooted in speed and impact. • Naha-te was used to subdue an opponent; Shuri-te sought to destroy the opponent. This created quite a bit of moral tension between the two styles. • Naha-te teaches you to fight in the dark; Shuri-te assumes that you can see the enemy. This is literally a "night and day" difference. • Above all, Naha-te and the southern Chinese styles place an enormous emphasis on sanchin kata, both for body-building and for testing black belts. Shuri-te abandoned sanchin completely, a dramatic difference that set Shuri-te completely apart from the Chinese styles. If you are not doing sanchin, you simply are not a white crane or Naha stylist. It is clear that neither Shuri nor Naha can claim that their art is based on “hundreds of years of secret development" in weaponless Okinawa. That romantic tatemae might apply to kobudo, but is not valid for any form of karate. The period of "secret development" for Shuri-te lasted about 50 years, during Matsumuras tenure at Shuri Castle. There was never a period of secret development for Naha-te. Higaonna's techniques were imported straight from Fuzhou, and were not developed in Okinawa at all. Any subsequent development that took place happened under the direction of Chojun Miyagi after the veil of secrecy was lifted. What about Tomari-te? After careful consideration I see little reason to mention Tomari-te, although I greatly admire Kosaku Matsumura for that trick with the wet towel. The men who taught karate in Tomari were retired Shuri bodyguards. The idea that Tomari-te is significantly different from Shuri-te strikes me as tatemae by someone who had a dojo in Tomari in 1926." From the author of the book" shotokan secrets " You can find the lines of shuri te and naha te and Tomari te in Wikipedia also. But you can't find their differences there. Also there is a lot of confusion in the world of martial arts with many unproven claims (hatsumi sensei is a prime example, bujinkan) so claims like how many years you practice a style or who was your sensei are not arguments (logical falasy, no offense of course)
Real expert, it's a pleasure to see this explanation
Wow! Que aplicaciones extraordinarias. Gracias por compartir a tan excelente maestro!
He was both my sensie's teacher and friend.
I remember soke i had the great privilege of training under him. R.I.P Soke
Another variety of a great kata
thanks for the teaching very usefull to me
Good sensei oss
I don't particularly care for the way they do the kata but love the application
Very nice
all of this techniques are used in Aikido martial arts
and these are very useful ones
Oss Sensi
Oss muito bom
Great vid! I wanna learn this style!
Motobu-ha Shito-ryu, in fact Kuniba-ha Karate-do
Gambatte! YES 🔥
Hai
This is crane system, or to be more accurate it is one of the four sub sets of crane system. It's very interesting, because there is a clear genealogy from China through Higgiona, to Chojun Miyagi, to Mabuni and Motobu and then to Kuniba's father.
Actually is one of the 2 main lines of karate (Na hate and Shuri te) Na hate. The line is based on Fujian province systems like the White Crane. A simple way to distinguished from which line is a karate style, is from Shan Shin Kata (which one has the Shan Shin and which one has not. Shuri te Abounded Shan shin so its a very different line with only a few elements of Fujian Kung Fu. Naha te is Based on White Crane (and other styles, but mostly White Crane)
@@Karatekasgr Could you mean San Chin kata? That is teh Crying Crane form and a foundation of Goju form, not Shuri.
But the Shuri system too has a strong roots in Crane, it's just not as obvious.
@@laurencelance586 shan chin is foundemental in white crane and in naha te line which is based mostly on white crane. Naha te styles are Goju ryu, uechi ryu for examples. Shuri te adonded shan chin and only kept some elements of fu Jian kung fu. It is a very different line with very different fighting strategy and way of fight. Shuri te styles are shotokan, shorin ryu, shorinji ryu for example. Those styles do not have the shan chin as their bases. There for they are not strongly based on fujian white crane (shan chin came from white crane, it's a form with similar meaning in Chinese, which means "three treasures" or something like that)
So if a karate style practice shan chin is naha te, if not is shuri te.
@@Karatekasgr Having spent two years under Mayagi's student G. Yamaguchi, I am at least somewhat famaliar with Go Ju. The remaining 51 years of practice was in the Matsumura family system.
To make sense of the history I began, some 40 plus years ago, to ernestly assemble the genealogy of the Okinawa systems. I have, to date, some 200 names in my chart. I also have some of the famalial relationships, meaning which family married into which family.
Goju was inspired by Crying Crane, one of the four early sub systems of the original crane of the Southern Shao lin. The Matsumura family practice another sub system ; Feeding Crane.
@@laurencelance586 i really think there is a lack of communication here (no offense of course) i am only saying there are 2 different main lines of karate styles (Tomari te is another story) i am not denying that naha te styles (like goju ryu) are based heavily on white crane, i confirming it. I only say that shuri te is another story. To understand better what i am trying to say, here is some sources.
"NAHA-TE VS. SHURI-TE
Now that we have met Higaonna, we can sort out the differences between "hard” and "soft" karate.
It is not clear to the casual reader that there are two very different kinds of “Okinawan karate,” with different masters, different origins, different histories, different kata, and different means of generating power. This causes a lot of confusion about "karate" history. There are, in essence, two different histories.
When karate became popular in Japan in the 1920s (largely due to Funakoshi), Okinawan masters felt a bit left out. In 1926 they made an effort to organize their local arts and get some national recognition. As part of this reorganization, they coined the terms "Shuri-te," "Naha- te,” and "Tomari-te," to describe the types of karate they were teaching in these three towns.
To clarify, this book is mainly concerned with the development of Shuri-te under the influence of Bushi Matsumura and Yasutsune ltosu. Shuri-te is also known as linear karate, hard-style karate, and Shorin karate. The tatemae of “Shorin” is that it refers to the original Shaolin Temple. This type of karate arose in Shuri among upper-class royal bodyguards in the 1800s. It is said to be best for people who are light and quick on their feet because it uses body momentum to generate impact. It has many long-range weapons such as oi-zuki (front punch), which require enough light to be able to see your opponent. This hard-hitting karate first appeared in the 1820s when Matsumura was young, and developed steadily through Itosu's death in 1915. In traditional shotokan karate, we continue to research and refine the Shuri-te principles to the present day.
The second school of Okinawan karate is called Naha-te. It is also known as soft style karate, circular karate, or the Shorei style. "Shorei" refers to the Shorei-ji, the Southern Shaolin Temple! Naha-te is sometimes listed as a branch or example of White Crane chuan fa. It was founded by Kanryu Higaonna in 1902, and according to Nagamine was almost pure chuan fa, newly re-imported from China at that time. Higaonna emphasized body building and stationary, rooted stances. There was an emphasis on muscle power, and on keeping your hands in contact with the opponent while you fight. This lets you grapple with an opponent in the dark. For this reason, Funakoshi says that Shorei technique is best for muscular body-builders like Higaonna.
Naha-te quickly evolved into Okinawan goju-ryu. The other branch of modern Naha-te is uechi-ryu, which didn't arrive in Okinawa (from China, via Japan) until 1945. Chuan fa may be ancient, but the unspoken truth of Naha-te is that it arose and was named in the 20th century.
For the record, we also see other kinds of "karate'' in Japan and Okinawa, usually labeled "kenpo." These are soft-style arts based on chuan fa from China, and are only distantly related to Shuri-te. Kenpo is the Japanese pronunciation of the Chinese "chuan fa” kanji. It is a Chinese art performed in a Japanese uniform.
Comparing Shuri technique with Naha is like comparing the irresistible cannonball with the immovable post, yet both are known as "karate” simply because both towns are in weaponless Okinawa. When people write about "karate,” it is important to know which kind of karate they mean. They have very little in common except for the uniform, and even that was a modern innovation.
Quite a lot of rivalry arose between Shuri-te and Naha-te between 1902 and 1930 due to the extreme differences in their philosophy, origins and technique.
• Naha-te arose on the grimy waterfront; Shuri-te came from a sparkling palace. That alone would cause friction.
• Naha-te was rooted in muscular strength and grappling, while Shuri-te was rooted in speed and impact.
• Naha-te was used to subdue an opponent; Shuri-te sought to destroy the opponent. This created quite a bit of moral tension between the two styles.
• Naha-te teaches you to fight in the dark; Shuri-te assumes that you can see the enemy. This is literally a "night and day" difference.
• Above all, Naha-te and the southern Chinese styles place an enormous emphasis on sanchin kata, both for body-building and for testing black belts. Shuri-te abandoned sanchin completely, a dramatic difference that set Shuri-te completely apart from the Chinese styles. If you are not doing sanchin, you simply are not a white crane or Naha stylist.
It is clear that neither Shuri nor Naha can claim that their art is based on “hundreds of years of secret development" in weaponless Okinawa. That romantic tatemae might apply to kobudo, but is not valid for any form of karate. The period of "secret development" for Shuri-te lasted about 50 years, during Matsumuras tenure at Shuri Castle. There was never a period of secret development for Naha-te. Higaonna's techniques were imported straight from Fuzhou, and were not developed in Okinawa at all. Any subsequent development that took place happened under the direction of Chojun Miyagi after the veil of secrecy was lifted.
What about Tomari-te? After careful consideration I see little reason to mention Tomari-te, although I greatly admire Kosaku Matsumura for that trick with the wet towel. The men who taught karate in Tomari were retired Shuri bodyguards. The idea that Tomari-te is significantly different from Shuri-te strikes me as tatemae by someone who had a dojo in Tomari in 1926."
From the author of the book" shotokan secrets "
You can find the lines of shuri te and naha te and Tomari te in Wikipedia also. But you can't find their differences there. Also there is a lot of confusion in the world of martial arts with many unproven claims (hatsumi sensei is a prime example, bujinkan) so claims like how many years you practice a style or who was your sensei are not arguments (logical falasy, no offense of course)
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he did only 1 mawashi uke and the ending
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