How a Little-Known Committee Determines When a Recession Begins | WSJ

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2023
  • No one indicator is used to determine a recession. Rather, it’s a group of people, called the Business Cycle Dating Committee.
    WSJ explains how this group decides when the U.S. has entered a recession, and why knowing that date is so important.
    Illustration: Jacob Reynolds
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    Markets and economics are complex. It's easy to be overwhelmed by a sea of wonky indicators and lose track of why they matter. This series breaks down the basic terms and ideas that move the markets.
    #Recession #Economy #WSJ

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  • @Aarrenrhonda3
    @Aarrenrhonda3 2 місяці тому +119

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      @Peterl4290 2 місяці тому +2

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      @sabastinenoah 2 місяці тому

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  • @flakes369
    @flakes369 Рік тому +18

    I decide if we are in a recession or not

  • @jackhammer915
    @jackhammer915 Рік тому +5

    That is untrue. A recession is defined as 2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth (our GDP shrinking instead of expanding).
    A recession isn’t defined as “a rough economic period” or a time with high inflation, though those often occur during a recession. A recession is a SPECIFIC economic state with specific criteria and this has always been the case

  • @chaseallen4352
    @chaseallen4352 Рік тому +85

    This video basically: “ The committee of 8 individuals aren’t politically at all and based on data, but definitely reporting a recession is political”. Wow

    • @bsame
      @bsame Рік тому +3

      Welcome to the real world

    • @ike_em_all
      @ike_em_all Рік тому

      Everything is political

    • @blackaugust2035
      @blackaugust2035 Рік тому

      Anything runs by humans is political, bias and not trustworthy. Wow

    • @vhufeosqap
      @vhufeosqap Рік тому

      Aren’t *politcal at all
      Not politically…. I’m just saying.

  • @AjitKumar-yp2on
    @AjitKumar-yp2on Рік тому +1

    These short videos are informative and interesting to watch. Thanks WSJ

  • @Geeraf999
    @Geeraf999 Рік тому +12

    The title should use "determines" instead of "decides"
    Edit: Thanks for updating it.

    • @andrewm8402
      @andrewm8402 Рік тому +3

      That's still ambiguous because it can still imply causation. It's better if they use "identifies".

  • @1MinuteFlipDoc
    @1MinuteFlipDoc Рік тому +7

    Economics is generally regarded as a social science, although some critics of the field argue that economics falls short of the definition of a science for a number of reasons, including a lack of testable hypotheses, lack of consensus, and inherent political overtones.

  • @jaridkeen123
    @jaridkeen123 Рік тому +38

    Fun fact if minimum wage was pinned to the GDP we would get $22 an hour and the Federal Minimum wage is still $7.25

    • @Rust_Rust_Rust
      @Rust_Rust_Rust Рік тому +1

      Why do you think that is?

    • @youknuckle
      @youknuckle Рік тому +2

      21.38 here in Australia..

    • @ang3l0p3r3z
      @ang3l0p3r3z Рік тому +1

      @@youknuckle how are the cost over there?

    • @generalshepherd457
      @generalshepherd457 Рік тому

      unskilled workers are flooding in across the border.

    • @erosenbauer3435
      @erosenbauer3435 Рік тому

      @@youknuckle curious, is that in AUD or USD? Either way it's still more than our federal minimum either way

  • @aritragupta4182
    @aritragupta4182 Рік тому +14

    Who else thought Patrick Dempsey had gotten a job at the WSJ? 0:50

  • @behrensf84
    @behrensf84 Рік тому +10

    The Business Cycle Dating Committee sounds like an interesting dating site for economists....

  • @josehawking5293
    @josehawking5293 Рік тому +29

    Recessions are simply cyclical contractions of liquidity that cause a corresponding decline in economic activity.

  • @mack-uv6gn
    @mack-uv6gn Рік тому +8

    We are talking ourselves into a recession

    • @cadmean-reader
      @cadmean-reader Рік тому

      A self-fulfilling prophecy in some facets, recessions

  • @tc-live
    @tc-live Рік тому

    Great video.

  • @SorminaESar
    @SorminaESar Рік тому +4

    Economic is always connecting to politic. It's absolutely. How to handle economy of state will always be followed by political will.

    • @1MinuteFlipDoc
      @1MinuteFlipDoc Рік тому

      Economics is generally regarded as a social science, although some critics of the field argue that economics falls short of the definition of a science for a number of reasons, including a lack of testable hypotheses, lack of consensus, and inherent political overtones.

  • @SiLoMixMaster
    @SiLoMixMaster Рік тому +3

    In THE REAL WORLD though it's actually 2 successive quarters of negative GDP growth, not some secret dating committee no one has ever heard of 🤣

  • @nikolastarcic9558
    @nikolastarcic9558 Рік тому +72

    The whole concept of how economies operate needs drastic changes...

    • @lakeguy65616
      @lakeguy65616 Рік тому +25

      Your comment "The whole concept of how economies operate needs drastic changes..." indicates how little your understanding of economics is... You can understand economic principles but you can't change them.

    • @stapleman007
      @stapleman007 Рік тому +1

      Option 1: Naziism. Millions of people killed.
      Option 2: Communism. 10's of Millions of people killed.
      Option 3: Why Not Both?

    • @JPminer814
      @JPminer814 Рік тому

      That's not how that works... That's not how any of this works. Culture needs to change before "economics", if that is even possible...

    • @richardnemeth5911
      @richardnemeth5911 Рік тому +3

      @@lakeguy65616 it does evolve as we go tho. Basic principles remain constant but nothing else about how we approach it stays the same for long.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому +4

      I hope you don’t have a Ph D in Economics.

  • @RandomDeforge
    @RandomDeforge Рік тому +12

    the amount of word salad and mental gymnastics makes it sound like the Committee is basically that Chicken Bail-out scene from South Park

  • @niclasavasjo788
    @niclasavasjo788 Рік тому +2

    Hey, please add sources in the comments, I can't find further information and data. 🙂

  • @ReGeorgie
    @ReGeorgie Рік тому

    That area between the peaks and troughs is a wavelength 😊

  • @nithinkumar3839
    @nithinkumar3839 Рік тому

    These 8 peoples determines our simulated reality.

  • @itseveryday8600
    @itseveryday8600 Рік тому +4

    the narrator sounds similar to narrator for the Vox channel, i wonder if it's the same person

  • @TheInvisibleHand_
    @TheInvisibleHand_ Рік тому +18

    The Free Market Decides. As Always.

    • @leonardticsay8046
      @leonardticsay8046 Рік тому +4

      These guys are not the market. These guys are not non-partisan.

    • @icyx9268
      @icyx9268 Рік тому

      / implicit corruption incorporating all of the countries conscious into a couple schemey manipulators that infiltratively impose themselves for regressive self destructive degeneracy based regressive concentrated control. there is no free market!.

  • @ammarali9043
    @ammarali9043 Рік тому +1

    By the time they publicly announced the recession, the recession already finished because most of these indicators are lagging indicators.

  • @jaydibernardo4320
    @jaydibernardo4320 Рік тому +12

    A recession is when your neighbor loses his/her job. A depression is when you lose yours.

  • @lakeguy65616
    @lakeguy65616 Рік тому +11

    two negative quarters of GDP is a better gauge

    • @saahiliyer11
      @saahiliyer11 Рік тому

      No it isn’t. It’s just what the financial press likes to use because it’s easier to point at the pretty picture

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому

      The left doesn’t want to call it the Biden Recession.

  • @Nohandleentered
    @Nohandleentered Рік тому +2

    I was so confused. I thought the title meant the committee puts the US into a recession. Not that they just do some data analysis to say when it happens. Nerds.

  • @mintheman7
    @mintheman7 Рік тому +2

    How do you induce inflation? Increase money supply by 30% in 2 years. How do you stop inflation? Increase interest rate until the economy is in a recession.

  • @danielhutchinson6604
    @danielhutchinson6604 Рік тому +5

    Data has been proven to be pretty easy to manipulate.
    The data that reveals that Food Banks are having difficulty keeping up with demand, is one indicator of facts.
    Egypt approving participation in BRICS Currency exchange seems to indicate that economic trends may not favor the US being capable of exploiting weaker Nations for long?
    The US economy is not capable of supporting a Marshall Plan today.
    Instead we appear to be exploiting European Consumers with LNG......

  • @thetimetravelerszen
    @thetimetravelerszen 11 місяців тому

    Ssn benefits are peanuts now, while ssn taxes are still high. I think fed should accept inflation and reduce mortgage rates. All other countries have already been inflated.

  • @markc2421
    @markc2421 Рік тому

    This was 10 people when I added it to my watch later a few hours ago, what changed?

  • @jamesmaduabuchi6100
    @jamesmaduabuchi6100 Рік тому +3

    There might be an economical turmoil but there is no doubt that this is still the best time to invest.

  • @fatehyabali
    @fatehyabali Рік тому

    Fab

  • @sasshole8121
    @sasshole8121 Рік тому +1

    James Poterba looks like Stephen Hawkings long lost brother.

  • @soongalfred2515
    @soongalfred2515 Рік тому

    The committee member can place a Short on the market prior declaring it recession!

  • @innerworth
    @innerworth Рік тому

    Is recession the opposite of progression?

  • @respektfullulv903
    @respektfullulv903 Рік тому +1

    "If the committee felt comfortable"

  • @Ken-S
    @Ken-S Рік тому +3

    Can I have the formula for determining a recession?

  • @Semper_Iratus
    @Semper_Iratus Рік тому +6

    I’m redefining that group to mean that it is not at all what it has once been.

    • @HH-le1vi
      @HH-le1vi Рік тому

      They've always called recessions far after we're already in one

  • @HowieSmith-xh9xe
    @HowieSmith-xh9xe Рік тому

    When ya can't afford food but it's not a recession

  • @joachimlindback
    @joachimlindback Рік тому

    50% recession - 50% expansion

  • @Bianca.rantzsch
    @Bianca.rantzsch Рік тому

    The current American problem is that they lost their industrial base and have nothing to trade besides guns and overprinted money. I'm delighted I sold off the majority of my significant assets on the financial market at a premium price before I declared them terrible investments! Because they misjudged China, the US economy is currently in trouble.

  • @chrischungy
    @chrischungy Рік тому

    Sales and industrial production has been falling since October 2022. We're probably in a recession.

  • @sammyhagger12
    @sammyhagger12 Рік тому +2

    Wsj: “but employment, a key indicator for the committee, was still strong”
    Graph: shows a nearly 33% drop in employment…. AND, wsj circled them.
    Credibility…?

    • @sandyqbg
      @sandyqbg Рік тому +2

      Um.. it's important to understand charts and not just ogle at pretty pictures.
      The chart is showing growth. GDP is in the negative while employment is in the positive. The rate of growth has slowed down but it's still growing. And recession is defined by degrowth in the statistics.

  • @jimbojimbo6873
    @jimbojimbo6873 Рік тому +1

    Interest rates don’t determine recessions lol, they contribute to it but definitely aren’t responsible for it.

  • @willthomas7950
    @willthomas7950 Рік тому

    Is it a recession or nobody had the ball to drop?

  • @faketrump3605
    @faketrump3605 Рік тому

    should be mechanical, maybe with some/limited level of overwrites.

  • @MexicanCa
    @MexicanCa Рік тому

    OMG, it is like the French immortals... but instead of language ... for an econimic intepretation...

  • @zoomer9686
    @zoomer9686 Рік тому +1

    ARREST OCASIO CORTEZ

  • @foodscrazy9229
    @foodscrazy9229 Рік тому +1

    It only matters to wall Street traders , that's the big payday of them

  • @Sirius_Blazing_Star
    @Sirius_Blazing_Star 9 місяців тому

    #Recession Dating Cycles

  • @FootageFactory
    @FootageFactory Рік тому

    Wait. What’s the definition of recession? Oh that’s right 7 consecutive years of negative growth. Trust me, I work for the govt.

  • @yongchen4158
    @yongchen4158 Рік тому

    Isn’t it flowing the money all about money economy is money money is life everything cost money money is life money money money

  • @davidshamiri1448
    @davidshamiri1448 Рік тому

    This story started to be created weeks ago

  • @asrulfarhan7459
    @asrulfarhan7459 Рік тому +1

    8 yt people determine when our economy is in trouble?

  • @be_civil_to_one_another
    @be_civil_to_one_another Рік тому

    Basically the committee is useless for traders

  • @WilliamBang
    @WilliamBang Рік тому

    Lol basically imagine a doctor telling you the patient is dead after they have died - 5 months later. That's what the video is saying. Until the patient dies everything is fine.

  • @neelmoradiya1389
    @neelmoradiya1389 Рік тому

    🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏👍👍

  • @BPoweredLove
    @BPoweredLove Рік тому

    Just be honest (giggle). Let me translate:
    4:34 "We want employment to appear strong to keep the facade of a strong economy going for as long as possible, so we adjust how metrics are calculated to make the data look the way we want and we do this for as long as we possibly can until we start to lose credibility with the American public."
    5:25 "Even if we have data and know what is happening, a guy in office will silence us so as to not make him look bad. Then we have to wait until enough time has passed so it won't affect him, which also adds to why we backdate the start times of every recession."

  • @auro1986
    @auro1986 Рік тому

    how? there is another committee behind this little-known committee that tells it when to tell everyone that they are living in a recession

  • @Farscape222
    @Farscape222 Рік тому

    Schaffe schaffe Häusle baue für die Enteignung im Pflegeheim :-)
    Deutschland

  • @JohnnyLee-ki3dl
    @JohnnyLee-ki3dl Рік тому

    Jeff Bezos said we 😅need to not buy a big screen tv last year Black Friday and use money wisely. Take advise from a self made than economists

  • @holdenjackson2182
    @holdenjackson2182 Рік тому

    Those people are bought

  • @andrewgates8158
    @andrewgates8158 Рік тому

    The fed

  • @VireakYuth
    @VireakYuth Рік тому

    No recession!
    I don’t trust any media.
    Anyone wants to bet with me?

  • @prasthambhmedia8033
    @prasthambhmedia8033 Рік тому +2

    can we just move back to the gold standard

    • @kchannel5317
      @kchannel5317 Рік тому +1

      Nope, we lost that when out debt first exploded because of the Vietnam War, and all the Eurpean countries wanted the gold they let us borrow (after world War 2) back, So Nixon unplugged it. That ship sailed a long time ago for a war we didn't even win.

    • @HH-le1vi
      @HH-le1vi Рік тому +1

      Can't. It'd be worth such a tiny fraction of an ounce (like 1/128th of an ounce) that it wouldn't be worth it. Also gold backed currency can still have inflation

  • @hadenwesley6548
    @hadenwesley6548 Рік тому +1

    HAHAHA the definition since god was a child: did GDP drop by 2 or more consecutive quarters? If yes, recession. Biden and Bush both tried to redefine what recession means for political gain.
    Is GDP the best? Not really. But that is still the definition. Literally just look it up.

  • @daddysoze
    @daddysoze Рік тому

    So this committee is a waste as AI could do this analysis since it's data....problem solved

  • @alexander15551
    @alexander15551 Рік тому

    Basically a group of economic historians. So, who cares. Only matters after the fact

  • @fgonzalez78959
    @fgonzalez78959 Рік тому

    Our entire economy is being held up by poor minded spenders..

  • @jj2006h
    @jj2006h Рік тому

    #OpposeMassLayoffs

  • @FinancialShinanigan
    @FinancialShinanigan Рік тому +8

    That's a white committee lol

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer Рік тому +2

      I mean statistically, there aren't much black economist in US, let alone that high of a qualification. Luckily though with time, there'll be more black economist

    • @terrancebell7460
      @terrancebell7460 Рік тому +4

      Super white lol

    • @leonardticsay8046
      @leonardticsay8046 Рік тому

      You wouldn’t like it if Thomas Sowell was on that committee. Lol.

    • @icyx9268
      @icyx9268 Рік тому

      @@Pfyzer racist propagating eugenics dehumanization illusions

  • @lickrish3930
    @lickrish3930 Рік тому

    Stop it about recession who cares about money

  • @windlesSpice
    @windlesSpice Рік тому

    when the tv says we are, duh. stick to your programming, npcs.

  • @tulgatbolderdene7493
    @tulgatbolderdene7493 Рік тому

    2023 May.

  • @cathryn4697
    @cathryn4697 Рік тому +1

    Successful people don't become that way overnight. what most people see at a glace- wealth.a great career, purpose-is the result of hard work and hustle over time.I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life.

  • @user-xp6sc6su9c
    @user-xp6sc6su9c Рік тому

    The failure of SVB and everything happening has left the markets in shreds. I'm at a crossroads right now, deciding if to liquidate 200k portfolio down by 10%, and it's uneasy for me to not panic after my recent awful divorce. I just need investing ideas to afford my retiremen....

  • @rosebella6031
    @rosebella6031 Рік тому

    Successful people don't become that way overnight. what most people see at a glace- wealth.a great career, purpose-is the result of hard work and hustle over time.I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life.