The People Who Lived in Denisova Cave | SciShow News
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Once upon a time, we coexisted with other human species. And there’s one place on Earth that may have taught us more about that than any other single site.
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From the screenshots you show at around 04:55 it looks like Wondrium promotes pseudoscience woo such as Qi Gong. So no, I won't be signing up for it and I'm disappointed that you'd promote it.
I’ve always struggled in science classes, but Hank makes learning about science so fun
Teaching style can really make a difference. I had a tough time with history in high school but I had the same teacher for 11th and 12th history and I aced both years. The teacher LOVED history and it reflected in his teaching style.
Denisovans are my favorite prehistoric human species to learn about. Still so many mysteries about them!
They've just found what looks to be a new human relative in China I believe that's thought to be even closer to us than neanderthals. I don't really know anything else yet but looks interesting
But what makes them a human species?? They could be a animal species?
Me: This is just dirt.
Science: WOAH DIRT IN CAVE!
Hmm.. Yes, this floor seems to be made of floor.
@@jakecastle4426 Good that is what I'd like to hear. Glad it isn't an empty void.
We hit paydirt folks! Yee-haw!
Denisovan kid: "my legacy will be remembered for eons to come!"
His Neanderthal mom: "I'm sure it will. Go eat your mammoth before it gets cold."
Kiddo has a child with those dark newcomers who move their whole communities so fast and makes a double genetic contribution to modern humanity. Oddly enough, this means that the "purest" strain of modern humanity lives south of the Sahara in Africa. I don't think that supposed "scientific" racists have yet adapted to this.
@@Bacopa68 Bro, there's no such thing as a "Pure" human. We are all human, we can all have kids with each other, we can all sing, dance, play, love, laugh, and we all die. How about we try to end racist sentiments as a whole rather than just replacing the ones we have with other just as shitty ones.
@@XavierXonora I think you misunderstood what he was saying… he was criticizing racists for supposed “pure” genes theory.
Because the “purest” or “‘most human human” would technically be sub Saharan Africans, who’ve had the least interbreeding.
The quotes around pure are there to quote the racists who actually think there’s a pure race.
@@Bacopa68 This "pure" has nothing to do with the cleanliness pure and having mixed genes is not bad, it may be an advantage. The Habsburgs have taught us that a pure lineage is a disgusting idea. Even sub-saharan Africans may have interbred with other human species we have not yet discovered
@@shamtradtam3769 Sub-Saharan and African genetics as a whole have little (I say little as I have not seen a study that says otherwise, but still a chance) interbreeding with Neanderthals and Denisovans. Which would make them the purest Homo-Sapien bloodline. Homo-Sapiens moved out of Africa into a world already inhabited by other human species that migrated earlier. So technically speaking, we all come from colonizers (fun fact ig lol)
It is hard to imagine that just 11 years ago we hadn't even discovered Denisovans and now we such detailed stuff like the information in this video
When I think back to the 60s and 70s as a young guy and the rate of scientific discovery then as compared to now, the speed of it is staggering.
And now another possible new species Homo longi from China. I can't wait to see how this one progresses!
@@UltraViolet666 Yeah they seem to be more related to Neandertharls!
Hank for man of the year....
No joke.
You Hank, you are a special person that needs to be thanked more then you recive imo.
THANK YOU & your team for providing all of us with your HARD WORK. Please keep it up.
Prehistoric travel guide: “What happens at Denisova Cave stays at Denisova Cave.”
mass fuckings, ohh yeah
@@nivalis3904 interracial?
No Problem.
Except for 9 months later.
@@anandagaire5929 more like interspecies
Denisova: Where the party don't stop til the glaciers advance
its a good day when you hear that we have new info about Denisovans
Before I even started really getting into the video. His Pizza shirt confused the hell out of my eyes. It was like the focus on a camera getting confused and shifting
Verbally ooh'd at seeing this upload
Same. I couldn't watch it until I was done working. Waited all these hours to watch. I wasn't disappointed. Though, I would like more.
A cave thats been in use by humans for hundreds of thousands of years ... just think about that. All of recorded human history has happened within the last 10.000 years or so, and there was just a cave that has served humanity for tens of times longer then all of it.
I love to imagine what daily life was like for them.....how did they interact with each other, did they laugh & cry? at what? What did they truly look like? What were their thoughts about the world & their place in it? Endlessly fascinating.
@@ironsnowflake1076 & how did they communicate?
@@AccidentalNinja have you not seen the movie Clan of the Caveman?
@@NorvelCooksey I have not.
@@NorvelCooksey Do you mean Clan Of The Cave Bear?
You guys should do a video on the new stuff that's just come out about genes that cause Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS) also occurring in men, being linked to obesity, diabetes and male pattern baldness.
Genetic studies on female prevalent diseases (Endo, PCOS, ETC) and recent genetic advances would be fantastic. And like you say, the realization of how they effect men as well when they used to be considered only carriers and not having symptoms of the diseases.
I’m an undergrad, I work for my professor on multiple projects using eDNA (and soon eRNA). Our projects focus on fish and use water samples to collect our DNA but it’s the exact same concept!
Do a video about the new dragon man species
The what now?
@@Cec9e13 Dragon Man (Homo longi) is an extinct species of archaic human identified from a nearly complete skull in Harbin, on the Northeast China Plain, dating to at minimum 146,000 years ago during the Middle Pleistocene. The skull was discovered in 1933 along an under-construction bridge of Manchukuo National Railway and finally brought to archaeologists in 2018.
@@xINVISIGOTHx .....that is really cool and all, but naming it Dragon Man after a river is very sneaky false advertising....
I still maintain that the dungeons and dragons mythology (which I think is altered Tolkien mythology [i.e. elves dwarves halflings]), is a remnant interpretation of multiple kinds of humans living in the same time period.
Apart from halflings, D&D doesn’t so much alter Tolkien as it does draw on the same sources: Germanic and Celtic mythology, namely. So, your theory is probably right: the legends of elves, dwarves and fey almost certainly descend from the remembrances of Neanderthals or other human species (or else earlier groups of Modern Humans: as both the Celts and Germans are Indo-Europeans who pushed out the presumably Finno-Ugric natives).
Supposedly, Australian Aboriginal oral folklore speaks of Animal Megafauna believed to have gone extinct thousands of years ago. So it is definitely possible.
Tolkien drew on Anglo Saxon, Germanic, Celtic and Scandinavian myths himself but middle earth is supposed to be another time on our planet that we've forgotten about.
It would be a marvel to comprehend what is said, but all I see is PIZZA.
Yeaah, it was kinda distracting
What? o.O
@@aurelfarkasovsky Hank’s shirt.
And Blurry Pizza John is one of the most distracting.
It was distracting and awesome. 😎
Merry Pizzamas.
that shirt brings back memories
Its crazy how we didn't know about them until very recently, and now we know so much.
When i was watching Friends in the '90s this was not even on the radar. Thinking about that cus Ross always used to talk about bones from the ancient people in the tv show.
Another mystery: Australo-Melanesians (including Negritos and Orang Asli) have denisovan dna in island southeast asia new guinea and australia (which they passed on to Austronesians), but not in mainland asia, which means denisovans may have encountered humans as well somewhere in the now sunken Sundaland landmass
The fact they were to get that amount of DNA from dirt shows you our scientific capabilities.
we are in the future
And our forensic ones
Oo I been waiting for a follow up to this subject!!
You guys have an outstanding audio engineer. Compression 10/10.
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That type of way of learning the history, can help us reveal so much about our prehistory
I have this wonderful image in my head of a time when there's two different human species with a timeshare on a cave. Like, some kind of paleolithic rom-com about two families who never meet, but recognize each other by what they left behind at the condo in Aspen at the end of the season. Then leaving little notes for each other. Then talking on the phone after someone accidentally broke a valued trinket. Something something wedding, something something complete.
This is a book someone needs to write
I imagine that reunion in the chamber between Sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans like that scene from Avengers movie when the main three stop fighting at the forest.
Wow this is so fascinating
I want more!!!!!
That belongs in a museum!
There are two kinds of mind:
those that wonder, and those - like mine - that wander.
Actually there's 3 kinds. The 3rd is minds that do both.
damn that mindboggling! Good stuff sci show!
that is breathtakingly beautiful to me that we can see such a good example of the muddling of evolution in our dna. this is a perfect example as something to reference when people misunderstand the human genome, i live in an area where no one even accepts evolution. It is draining, and this knowledge you gift me is wonderful. thank you so much scishow
The lack of other humans is one of the most interesting parts of our present science.
Seems suspicious.
I was too distracted for the first 30 seconds to listen to Hank. Pizza John t-shirt. hahaha.
great timing! can't wait for the Dragon Man video : )
Mitochondria? As in… THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL?!
Can’t wait for a video on Dragon Man.
PIZZA JOHN! That's a blast from the past!
My guess is the cave was a generational trading location for tribes. A sort of unspoken neutral ground to trade goods. Tribes in Alaska used this tactic for trading between parties that were not exactly friendly, but still needed to trade goods to survive. I've heard stories that two merchants would post up in a location like the cave for weeks haggling out the trades that they felt were most fair - almost like a modern day stock trader.
Except there werent any goods to trade back then, and the most common response to meeting a stranger was eating him if you got lucky.
That shirt is so good, I had to click that Like button
It's really fun that this video came out today, the day a scientific paper came out describing a really good candidate to be the denisovans themselves.
um . . . . . Details ? ? ?
I still wonder, has some embers of our ancestors' contact with other hominids have been past down through culture as folklore? How the Norse described Dwarfs seems similar to Neanderthals. The people of the Indonesian islands have stories of small ape-men, is this a distant memory of Homo Floresiensis?
I would imagine that would be quite unlikely when you think of how long of a time that covers. Where did the stories of trolls, dragons, unicorns, etc. come from? Imagination.
Ultimately these stories are probably just exaggerations of normal people. At my job is a normal human whom with just a little bit of changes could easily be identified as a Tolkien Dwarf. He's short, broad shouldered, stout, has a large beard, large hands and feet, and a voice similar to Gimli in the Lord of The Rings.
2:40 when the imposter is-
Just so cool!
Pizza John stares through my soul
Hank, I find your anthropology videos topping all the others, Please make more videos on evolution!! Thanks for amazing videos!!
The pizza John shirt and the excitement that hank has about this topic. Makes for a wonderful video
What about the skull found in a well in China? What will this mean for our history and our knowledge of human species?
Any links ? Thanx
@@user-kd1uh1kr4b Search for the ''Dragon man'' or _Homo longi_
@@mapache-ehcapam grazie
It might be a Denisovan skull. Hopefully they can recover some DNA and find out
The entire genus Homo readily interbred. The genus Homo is actually just one species. You can't change my mind.
*boom* that's the sound of my mind being blown. I had no idea e dna was a thing. Thank you SciShow team for doing such an excellent job at bringing science to us curious folk.
Cool. I hope more fossils and such are found like this. I would like to learn more 👍
you gave a me great idea, or several:
1. did other human lineages domesticate animals and/ or plants?
2. maybe modern humans outcompeted their cousins because they had "better technology" like "using animals as tools" to get steady supply of food or using them as tools, like for labour or building clothing, huts, weapons etc.
It's a combination of the fact that we were better at feeding ourselves, probably better at hunting, we are aggressive war-mongers, and we also reproduce like rabbits. It was only a matter of time.
@@RobinNewbrough those are interesting theories ... but as far as I know, we actually know fairly little about pre-civilization human cultures (before farming and animal domestication some 10.000 years ago) - even after then it´s quite iffy. if we (h. sapiens) possessed all the things you listed 30-40.000 years ago, it´s not unlikely that our cousins did too. after all, h. erectus, neanderthals and denisovans were pretty widespread as well, and at least h. erectus predates us by at least 1mio years. that´s a pretty long time to aquire many biological and cultural adaptations to thrive under changing climate conditions of the ice ages.
I really like Hank's shirt.
0:26 That image of _Homo Neanderthalensis_ is pretty old; decades old. I admit that I would prefer you not use old images of Neanderthals that show them in the old-fashioned and highly-outdated 'bovine' look that they used to be given. These were not stupid, dull-witted people. They were highly intelligent humans whose thinking capacity differed from ours slightly and had adapted to a harsh climate.
And if I remember correctly, also the source of the first evidence we have for the controlled use of fire.
@@AtlasReburdened I thought that was erectus
3:14 The chart is, fascinatingly, “backwards” from most conventional charts displaying time in LTR scripts, with the present on the left and time going further into the past as you move right.
Yeah that confused me at first. Took me a second as he was describing it to follow.
It comports with the increasing depths the samples are from being equated with the time period.
Increasing depth, farther back in time.
@@SRDuly2010 The chart could be flipped right-to-left and display exactly the same info. I think they just wanted to have the information relating to humans (the yellow bar)-which is relatively small-closest to the label for “Ancient Modern Humans.”
The chart is super confusing, going right to left as it goes forward in time.
I didn’t even realize until I read this.
yes. a gen z intern must have made it.
Pretty easy to understand. They dig the samples from the surface material first, then deeper (older) as they go.
A little certainly; it was only when I paused the video and studied the numbers I realized. It's a bit odd: the usual conventiont that we're used to is left to right surely?
That shirt is great
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This is super cool and all, but can you please talk about the two new species found this week, one in Israel and the other one in China? Is it possible that they are related to the denisovans?
I actually thought this video might be about that and I was impressed how fast they made this but I guess it was just a coincidence. Looking forward to the scishow video about the new discoveries though!
@@eelkev.8547 All of the papers came out at the same time. News just doesn't run long enough to cover all the new things!
Whaaat??? Two new species discovered??? I so need to see a video on that!!!
I definitely thought that's what this video was gonna be talking about. I got so excited, but this is cool too
That's one heck of an attractive cave.
Perhaps it's just the writer in me but I can't help but imagine just once, perhaps during a particularly nasty storm or harsh winter, a Denisovan, Neanderthal, and human sharing the cave together. The Denisovans have gotten so rare that the human and Neanderthal children can't stop staring (the way children have done for as long as there have been children). I imagine they'd all keep their distance at first, only keeping peace with each other out of self-preservation (except the children who don't share a language, but share a love of play which is universal) but... well it's human to bond. The women would relax first (maybe there was a baby in the cave so the mothers in the group share that Mom solidarity and help out), then the men. They teach each other, care for each other. Maybe they bury a deceased elder together under three unique burial rites. Then, after a time, the weather clears and the groups split up, probably never meeting again. But just for a moment, all of human history coexisted in absolute harmony.
Or maybe I'm cheesy af. Anyway, thanks for the science, Hank!
The thought of just how much time has passed since they lived and us now just boggles my brain.
YAYY! HANK IS BEST!
Are we just going to ignore that these humans shared Denisova Cave with bears and hyenas?
they were pets 😂😂😂
Ones left, others came, and so on. Just as it happens.
That cave was a pre-historic gym
Well, that certainly puts us in our place! 🤪
pizza john staring at me from the void
dam man wherever we appear the
other species seem to dissapear
The past is awesome.
wow was this for me because of comment world? if so, thanks, thats really awesome! if not, thanks, this was still awesome!
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How long until a video on "Dragon Man"
i read that article earlier today and went down the denisovan rabbit hole, it was trippy seeing this video uploaded almost right after
was just about to bring this up lol
I learned a lot today.
Thanks for your comment.
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Being a modern human I could see why we'd wipe them all out. Competition isn't good for anyone. Jokes aside I'd be shocked if modern humans didn't have a finger in the demise of other humanoids. We can barely get along as is.
What who’s getting along?? We have to put a stop to this.
Maybe a CSI detective can go there and look for evidence of foul play.
We totally did lol. Read the book sapiens: a brief history of mankind. Homo Sapiens #1 baby.
Considering all the mega-fauna that ~coincidentally~ went extinct every time we showed up, we absolutely exterminated the other human species.
While there was definitely bloodshed involved from time to time we mostly just out-competed them and absorbed them. Sapiens have been shown to be the most adaptable of the early homid species. The fact that we potentially shared this cave with the others for longer than recorded history indicates that we probably *weren't* just out to massacre all that wasn't human and mostly saved that for each other once civilization kicked in.
Thank you so much for pronouncing Neanderthal correctly. Great video!
Neandertall.
You taught me a word today. Suss: to realize. No, not the Gen-Z 'sus' lol.
amongguss
I think it's the same word. Suspect/suspision is investigated and thus sussed aka sussed out or treated as a suspect. The suspisous behavour is 'sus' and the answer is sussed out.
@@science3879 sussy imposterino
As further confirmation that there is nothing new under the sun, I found this:
“suss”: a verb from the 1920s meaning to suspect; a 1970s noun meaning suspicion, as in “he was arrested on suss”; and a 1980s noun meaning knowledge, as in “they’ve got suss.”
Brits have been using "suss" for a long time with "out". "You think you've got it all sussed out", or, "figured out". Radiohead taught me that. 🙂
This is incredible!! Dirt- who knew??!!
Love the way you pronounce "denisovans"! Thanks for learning the correct pronunciation
Im waiting for more info on the denisovan partial skull
Reminds me of that time they cloned Fry from all the stuff he left on the couch.
He might of said skin but we were all thinking about the amount of poop that was probably in that soil.
I thought of pee.
I imagine Denisovan toenail clippings.
Such a sad little cave yet so important. It tells us so much more than simply the DNA of those who were buried there.
This is badass to know but I always wonder what future scientists will think. Will they curse us for unknowingly destroying evidence the way some old-timey excavations of Egyptian tombs or Stonehenge did?
Denisova Social Club - A real Swinging place!!
I would totally watch a movie about It.
Don't get me wrong.
Wondrium's tagline "For minds who wonder" is great and all.
But WheezWaiter gave them a new, better tagline. The best.
Long live... THE PIZZA JOHN SHIRT!!!!
How to tell the world "we got merch!" without telling the world we got merch.
Wait....
How much of the human interspecies breeding was consensual? I like to think we set aside differences and worked together but I doubt
Idk about that. It’s not clear that we were particularly violent toward each other until we developed agriculture/“civilization”
@@LGrian true it’s a question that’s obviously never gonna get answered but it’s just something I’ve wondered .
@@LGrian Except the whole cannibalism thing, which apparently was very common. I'd say that totally counts as "violent".
There was never a doubt in my mind that the different Human species would "Get it On" with eachother.
I mean, something like 3-5% of people apparently engage in bestiality, so I think we’ll generally stick it anywhere and see what feels good
It's not necessarily bestiality. Anyone watched The Croods? It is fiction and very exaggerated, but The Croods is the closest thing I can think of of what might be a relationship between contemporary human species would look like. They might not even know they are different from each other. We now have black, white, asians, aborigines, etc. and I say we look very different in a lot of aspects, but we still consider each other as human.
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Very cool 😎!
Science is awesome 🤩
We just identified the hominid Dragon Man this very day!
Nice shirt Hank. Does anyone know where you can get it?
Best Best Show I've EVER SEEN in about 30 yrs especially the last 13yrs which have been a nightmare on my own and about at least 5to 6 attempts on my life thankyou.
One day I will have a good man cave of my own. I will just roll the boulder over the door and tell the world "good luck".
That shirt, though. 😯
There is some powerful Vlogbrothers energy in this episode. I don't know why, all I know is that I really want some pizza.
I'm also very interested to see if this has something to tell us about Dragon Man's very large skull. Read about that today and it seems the jury is still out as to whether he is a new species or a very large Denisovan
Surprised you didn’t bring up the dragon man skull in this one.
A Human, a Neanderthal, and a Denisovan walk into a cave ...