If Bailey is comfortable we like her for to be on camera more! She has an interesting character. (Even though not part of the main cast but supporting characters are really good to balance it out)
Ok so I can why everyone is freaking out about woods taking the antidote before Matt, but we always say Matt is that dad so it makes sense he would want to protect woods and make him take the antidote
I'm not upset Woods took the antidote before Matt. I'm upset he took it before Sam and Quinn and Matt, when he knew his was gone. Zero hesitation or consideration for anyone else. Just self-preservation.
@@MrCarrellScience Matt did tell them though, that he had enough for all, so Woods might've thought Matt had found more of it, while they were going separate ways.
I'm so glad they took the criticism of "This doesn't seem so real and immersive". This is incredible, to see the old vlog-style 863 story! Well done, team! -Editor Eliza
Agree.. I much prefer the old vlogging style over the more "Hollywoodesque" style videos. Just feels more immersive and natural for who they are as a group.
Project 863 is actually just Deb trying to get you guys to solve who killed Wes. Collecting the serums so Syphus dies is just a bonus so he dies a painful death for killing Wes.
Theory: What if the phantom was someone else who worked with all of them at syntec. That this phantom was in love with Deb and Nelson exploited that, using him to his advantage. Turning this worker into a phantom to get Wes out of the picture. The phantom might have wanted to be in Wes’s shoes, being in love with Deb and being part of the trio. That phantom may have seen Wes having everything he wanted (love and success). This might explain why he also has all of Wes’s documents as he is pretending to be Wes. Just a thought?
YES!! THATS WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING!!! that’s why I think there’s a 4th person that hasn’t been mentioned yet! If you think about it there are 4 subjects in project 863, Matt, Woods, Sam, and Us. What if there was a 4th member in their Syntec Corporation!? Nelson, Deb, Wes, and unknown!!
I knew someone would show up! This episode was definitely a yes from me. I know that some people will be upset at returning to some more vlog-centric videos, but I like it. Thanks guys!
I totally agree, I really like the more vlog based content, to me it fells more "real" and in this episode it worked so sooo well. Made me sit on the egde of the chair like a real scaredy-cat. I almost got a freaking heart attack even though I already knew someone would show up 😂
Sam-“Do you just wanna leave Woods by himself?” Matt-“nothing’s gonna happen” Me overthinking- *oh no oh no Woods is gonna get kidnapped and he’s gonna get injected and he’ll be Murdered or turned into a phantom or he’s gon-*
yeah i was thinking something was going to happen to woods. I know they weren't gone for long but maybe something still could have happened to him as we didn't get to see him and the others didn't look back to see if he was still there
In my opinion, so far this has been the best mixture of old school style vlogging and more serious Project 863 vibes. Shows that Matt and the others at Spellbound are very much in tune with audience feedback. Great job bouncing back, guys.
Theory: Wes is actually alive. The grave is a distraction to make Deb think that Wes is dead, and Nelson is really using him as a phantom (which is why his name was on all those documents in the RV). He was shot, but Nelson is pumping him full of serum to keep him alive to help him in his fight against Deb and Project 863.
Theory: the shooter was Nelson and person that got shot was Wes and he was shot on 08,06,03 and because Wes and deb were in a relationship then deb was very mad about Nelson shooting Wes so she created project 863 to take down Nelson syphus and get vengeance for wes
She said that she doesn't know where Wesley is. This means that D3B thinks that Wesley is alive. If she knew that he was dead then she would have said that it wasn't Wesley that was the phantom
I really loved this. Felt just like season one with that production quality of season two. It didn't feel too scripted, seemed totally possible, even throwing in some season one music (I believe) it was amazing. Really brought back that natural feeling to it. When the whole video is what's going on and nothing else- it tends to seem more like only story- but when it is like a vlog, it seems like it is actually happening along your other daily activities and in your lives.
agree the last 4 have really been kinda "off" this one was nice. I dont think its their fault its just some of the things they want to happen in the story with the budget and frame work they have come off as "cheap" they have made it work, but their are some episodes where its really hard to suspend disbelief
My heart skipped a beat when the red eyes just suddenly flashed and it’s been pounding ever since oml. Amazing episode, love the old style, keep up the good work! 😁
Theory time: the phantom is at the grave at 3am he ain’t there for Matt and them he’s there for the grave. (I took a photo and will post it on spellbound+ and this theory there too) he seems to be mourning like he lost someone Bc he doesn’t start chasing them or running he just stands there and turns to look at them. Another thing They didn’t see a car, which means he is either parked elsewhere OR he walked to the grave, which could also mean his one of his hideouts is there
He looked surprised to see them. My question how did he get there without them knowing? Didn't he have to drive? How could he not see the big white van? I don't think Wes is dead.
@@jsjazz12 1. They were playing games and eating snaks + the phantom could've came from any direction 2. He could've parked elsewhere or just walk as you dont know where he lives 3. Its 3am
It might me like it, but then what about the stuff that they found? Maybe he killed someone and burried the stuff next to the grave and is regreting of what he has done?
May be woods is missing.... that's what's might be waiting for us in the next epidose. I din't like the way they left woods there and after seeing "phantom" when they ran back the lights on the van were turned on.
26:40 Pause it right here. The phantom said "My work is done now thanks to you, for leading me to the absolate where poor Wesley was buried" You can see him in the distance they literally lead him right to it
Bruh the ending was so scary. Good job on making chill episode into a tense and stressful moment at the the end. You guys never cease to amaze me keep it up.
The show that I love is back! This week’s episode is exactly what I was hoping to get. It felt more grounded in the real world, there was some light hearted content leading up to the bigger suspenseful reveals and the music was great as well! These vlog moments felt natural unlike the weird dope or nope bit moments like we’ve seen the past few videos.
Incorporating this type of content into the main story is very very refreshing, it’s not constantly this dark story of murders and stress. We get to see your old selves
Just something I noticed, the phantoms mask seemed to be in really good shape this episode-fully intact, tubes are connected and both eyes are lit up. Just something I noticed
Theory - Deb named the project "project 863" after the date that her lover was murdered in cold blood by one of nelsons phantoms or Nelson himself and she didn't tell you as she didn't want to remember her love is dead along with Wes so she created project 863 to honour him and get justice for him, his family and her but also she didn't tell you as it could have messed up the mission .
Good theory but I am still wondering why the concrete with the D and the W with a heart was broken. I would appreciate if someone can responde back with a theory or a thought :)
But earlier she mentioned she didn’t know the whereabouts of Wes and it sounded like she really didn’t care! I think there’s a 4th person to this story that wasn’t introduced yet! Think about it! There are 4 subjects so maybe there was a 4th person in there group that despised Wes!!
Thought.... The phantom that killed wes stole his identity and is looking for the syrum but since wes(W) and Deb (D) were lovers and hid some of the syrum together they put their initials to symbolise their love and since wes and deb created project 863(the end to syntec) the phantom broke the heart 1 to get the syrum and 2 to symbolise their is NO more Wes and Deb and soon syntec will prevail?
I love how they’re including Bailey and Quinn!! having more people on the team makes it more interesting. those two can be the tag team people or and subject four!! my only critique is that I kind of wish the gravestone was dirtier and they had to like rub off the dirt to see the numbers and everything. With the case they find it give the illusion that it’s been there for a while but the case that they found that was really cool but Super scary and realistically would be a terrible thing to take with because you’re not sure if like you know the rest of their body parts or something weird could be in it.
The thing is though, she has said she doesn't know where he is, if she was working with the undercover cop, she would of probably already had this info then to give to them, it could be true, but a more likely idea is that whoever was in the car in the murder tape, quickly drove and burried Wes, put the grave stone there, since they seem to want to probably let Deb know who was there, with the 015. With Deb thinking that Wes has disappeared, these phantoms appearing and probably seeing one used Wes details for some things, assumed the worst and went into hiding to protect herself and that is where we are now, Deb clueless about Wes' actual fate, thinking he either turn against her or is somewhere ploting.
@@lilithicanna1861 Exactly!! And that’s why I think there’s a 4th person that hasn’t been mentioned yet! If you think about it there are 4 subjects in project 863, Matt, Woods, Sam, and Us. What if there was a 4th member in their Syntec Corporation!? Nelson, Deb, Wes, and unknown!!
When they found out Wes was the one murdered I was so sad I was kind of hoping that they would save Wes and then Wes and Deb would get back together. That’s so sad
We don’t have any “concrete” evidence that is Wes. We only have a (cheesy) quasi tomb stone with numbers on it. If they would have dug up the body, and gotten dna samples for complete verification, then I’d say we’d have reason to fear the worse for Wes. Everything up to this point is still theory, conjecture and here say.
This could’ve been said somewhere but what if the phantom still is Wes and he actually faked his death in the video from 08/06/03? Deb said she “doesn’t know his current location” never stating he was dead and she had said the serum changes you so it’s possible that the only part of normal Wes left inside the phantom is visiting his own grave for some reason
I was thinking maybe that Wes actually did die. Because someone maybe syphus took it too far and murdered Wes. And that's what started project 863 as a way to try to bring him back. Possibly why it's called life's blood. But it ended up turning him into some sort of monster and changed him. So thats the grave for his old self. Just thoughts here.
I reckon that is "Deb" in phantom costume at last near the grave of Wes. Pretty sure. Because he/she didn't seem in hurry / after seeing mat and team, he/she didn't reacted the way a phantom would've reacted. Felt calm. IMO
I actually love when you vlog it’s fun to watch I also like that Bailey is getting more on camera I would love if she became a part of the main characters in the series!❤️
I'm sus of Deb. She's been saying she don't know what happened to Wes yet her project is called 863.. something don't add up. Deb may not be as nice as she seems.
i think it’s because “08/06/03” is the date that wes “died” when in reality, he got shot and syphus used life’s blood to keep him alive and under his thumb and made it look like he was murdered. in deb’s mind, wes DID die that day; just not physically. hence, project 863
@@huskytemp1753 I’m convinced deb is phantom, maybe we have had it twisted the whole time. Maybe nelson is trying to find the serums to prevent deb from doing some mass murder type thing, something super messed up. She’s posing as the nice guy to get Matt, Sam and woods to hunt the serum before nelson finds it, maybe Wes found out her plan, she offed him and is framing nelson, which may explain why he’s off the grid, possibly trying to prove its deb. whilst also hunting the serum to destroy it, or maybe deb infected nelson to try keep him on her leash but he escaped, which is why he’s hunting and trying to recreate the serums. If nelson really is a killer then he would have just offed Matt Sam and woods and stole all their serum finding equipment as well as the serums they’ve found… why go through all the trouble?
Ok, given what was found, 4 possible outcomes come to mind. 1. Wes was the one shot in the Mountaineer and buried at that location to make it seem he just vanished. 2. It is a decoy to throw anyone looking for Wes off the trail. 3. Wes is the phantom and he faked his own death to cover up he is the phantom. 4. Wes and Syphus are actually working together to further the experiments and this grave is nothing but a red herring
@@maskedmenace5013 That answer is simple. Let's say the phantom is Wes. By faking his death no one would immediately suspect him. Giving himself time to become and execute his plan as the phantom
i love how woods is just sleeping so comfortably and the phantom is at the grave and everyones freakin out, i also freaked out. anytime something like this happens, i get a weird feeling in my stomach, my hearts beats fast and i FREAK OUT. i love this channel/series
I'm just going to put a curveball out there and say that the grave is actually Nelson who's buried there and Wes has been using Syphus's identity to control everything.
I don't think that's true cuz remember that the phantom threatened Matt by texting him that Matt would not want him to tell all of this to Nelson and then we found out that the person Matt was texting is actually the phantom and not Nelson Idk maybe phatom was just scaring them but I do believe that Nelson is alive or else why would deb need the project 863 in the first place if the reason of deb starting the project was to destroy Nelson syphus
@@uhamza448 We know there are multiple phantoms. Plus if we assume that Syphus is wearing a facemask like the phantoms we've seen. It's possible no one could tell the difference. Its either that or that is an empty grave with probably some viles or some other evidence and the phantom they saw is Wes who just went to the grave to remember his old self.
Since deb and wess where dating she must of named the protect after wess "went missing" .I think they didn't put wesses name on the grave stone so people didn't know that he died or what happened to him.
13:48 Sam starts riding the cart and kicking her leg back in the air for like one frame and then acts casual as if nothing happened when she is directly on camera.
Possible Theory: What if Wes staged his death and had someone “kill” him in the mountaineer so that He wouldn’t have to choose between Nelson or Deb and could go on his own path and with some of the other syntec employees so that he could study the serum and antidote
But, why would he talk to "someone" else about Matt, Sam and Woods breaking into his mini-van? (When the found the documents about renting a car and letters from Deb.)
@@jazzswift4221 Well there’s no saying the person he was talking to was Nelson we just assumed it was Nelson maybe it was one the employees that came with him in my theory
Okay but I absolutely love Sam and Baileys dynamic/friendship in these videos ((: they seem almost sisterly in a way I don't know. I love how they're adding her to these videos more as well.
Remember how Deb talked about not allowing something to happen again when talking to Wes? What if she was talking about Wes getting killed? She knew the date so she called the project the date of Wes' murder in order to remember the date. Also, people are talking about Nelson being the killer, if that is true what if Nelson somehow did not mean to kill Wes and goes to the grave at a certain time, under the cover of darkness, to visit Wes' grave.
Okay here is a theory, We know that Deb and Wes were in a relationship. What if before Deb and Wes became a “thing” Deb was dating/cheating on Nelson. Then later on Deb found out she was pregnant with Wes being the father. Nelson found out and was blinded with rage. Therefor, Nelson Murdered Wes and broke things off with Deb.(This would explain why we have found so many kids items. Also why Nelson called Deb “manipulative”)
I actually love the vlogging. I’m with Sam, it’s familiar. I kinda miss the old vlogging tbh. The story is great and all, just miss seeing how everyone is doing and what they’re up to.
Farfetched but here's my theory: The phantom is Wes, but Wes killed whoever was in the mountaineer and faked his own death by burying whoever was killed in the grave and marked it 015. The big hole in my theory is what the motive behind that would be...
@@rasmusekblad6997 Oh that's a good thought too. Like, maybe the murder was faked and no one was really killed? Maybe, if that's the case then something is hidden in the grave.
Why is he just standing there? I get that the automatic impulse of seeing him would be to run (i would too) but i almost feel like you didn't need to. He looks like a ghost. He wasn't trying to be hidden, or trying to stay out of sight, he was just *there.* Very eerie, very interesting. Looking forward to next wednesday, to see what happens next.
@@24zawisza That might be a good idea. If they were to do that, they obviously would need to come prepared but idk, i feel like they could do something.
the cliffhangers killsss mee :(( they need to do one ep where it seems like it's going to be a cliffhanger but then they continue the story so like 2 ep in one as special long ep
I gotta say I think switching it up like this is a great idea. A more laid back atmosphere makes the tension feel more real when it comes, and makes the breaks in-between refreshing
theory: wes and deb never broke up, wes died while they were still dating. deb tells everyone they broke up so she doesn’t have to remember the tragic night her lover was murdered. the only reason project 863 came together is to take justice and revenge for wes. the only reason she won’t tell you is cause knowing it’s wes and knowing details about the murder could jeopardize the project
or she took the serum and went crazy, killed wes, and didn't want to come to terms with it so she made up the story about the break up and is ashamed of whats shes done so shes trying to figure out why she did what she did
This could be the ghost hunt video they said they should do on the FIRST “interaction” with the “ghost” video if u don’t remember I’ll explain. So they spent the night at hi5studios and captured some spooky stuff and in that video they said they should do like a ghost video this might very well BE that ghost video. Only the true 863 fans will remember that video
At around 26:39 you can see the phantom’s mask seen to flash. He’s also there earlier on while they figure out that it’s Wes’ burial site. I believe the phantom placed it there to try and trap you guys again
I’m glad they are going back to the vlog style because it relieves my stress. I am very afraid of the dark so I hate these types of videos, but I love the series
Maaaatttt, PLEASE add Bailey in more videos. Absolutely love her character. And, only if she’s comfortable with it of course, maybe consider making her a main character???? Love y’all. Great video.
In the we are 863 video, someone referenced that life’s blood brings you back from the dead. This would make sense because theres a tombstone for wesley and of what we think, the phantom is wesley too. Therefore someone injected wes with the serum (lifes blood) and brought him back to life and the phantom who visited the grave is wes.
the vlogs definitely make it feel more real!! it truly makes me feel that these strange occurrences are really happening to you guys even though i know the magic behind it!!
About people not liking the vlog thing. I quite enjoy it. It reminds me of old Hi5. Which I was really fond of so keep up the good work Matt, and everybody.
If Bailey is comfortable we like her for to be on camera more! She has an interesting character. (Even though not part of the main cast but supporting characters are really good to balance it out)
Yes
Yes definitely, she hasnt been in the situation for the whole time so its refreshing for a new face.
Agreed! As long as she doesn't end up as a "red shirt".
Wouldn’t mind seeing Tanner get involved if he wanted to
10000000000%.
Sam: “ Do we want snacks or games first?”
Matt: “ VODKA”
mood honesty
Dude that one episode where they edited him saying vodka instead of water was *chefs kiss* 🤌🏽
@@ellaella44 lmfao 😂
@@rochellehodgson7372 For real tho
a true russian
Ok so I can why everyone is freaking out about woods taking the antidote before Matt, but we always say Matt is that dad so it makes sense he would want to protect woods and make him take the antidote
Also Matt being the owner of the company he is Legally supposed to keep him safe I think.
Exactly that's why I love the whole group because they all treat each other like family
I'm not upset Woods took the antidote before Matt. I'm upset he took it before Sam and Quinn and Matt, when he knew his was gone. Zero hesitation or consideration for anyone else. Just self-preservation.
@@MrCarrellScience Matt did tell them though, that he had enough for all, so Woods might've thought Matt had found more of it, while they were going separate ways.
I laughed so hard when Matt said, “I’ve never been in a white panel van, I’m so excited!”
The white fabric hanging out of the box they found was the lab coat that Wes was wearing when he was murdered.
Exactly
Yep it's the evidence
@@xXLucromXx I like this theory. I think you’re onto something
Bet there a lot of blood on it
No way it was so crisp white.
I'm so glad they took the criticism of "This doesn't seem so real and immersive". This is incredible, to see the old vlog-style 863 story! Well done, team!
-Editor Eliza
Agree.. I much prefer the old vlogging style over the more "Hollywoodesque" style videos. Just feels more immersive and natural for who they are as a group.
Yess! Totally! They bounced back so nicely
Agree the movie style is great but very stressful to watch. 🧐
Agreed
Same. It was getting too high budget mystery series for me. This video definitely has recaptured the same “essence” as season 0/1
Project 863 is actually just Deb trying to get you guys to solve who killed Wes. Collecting the serums so Syphus dies is just a bonus so he dies a painful death for killing Wes.
oooooo interesting 👀
Cool theory
Nice mate!
Good and nice
That’s what I was thinking too
matt: imagine you had a friend…
ad: you can’t have it all
Theory: What if the phantom was someone else who worked with all of them at syntec. That this phantom was in love with Deb and Nelson exploited that, using him to his advantage. Turning this worker into a phantom to get Wes out of the picture. The phantom might have wanted to be in Wes’s shoes, being in love with Deb and being part of the trio. That phantom may have seen Wes having everything he wanted (love and success). This might explain why he also has all of Wes’s documents as he is pretending to be Wes. Just a thought?
YES!! THATS WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING!!! that’s why I think there’s a 4th person that hasn’t been mentioned yet! If you think about it there are 4 subjects in project 863, Matt, Woods, Sam, and Us. What if there was a 4th member in their Syntec Corporation!? Nelson, Deb, Wes, and unknown!!
That would also explain why wes’s face is the photo was scratched out hatred
@@rosie.al8262 WOW you're right! this theory could explain a lot
@@Jaxnay219 might be true!!!!!
Possible
I knew someone would show up! This episode was definitely a yes from me. I know that some people will be upset at returning to some more vlog-centric videos, but I like it. Thanks guys!
I totally agree, I really like the more vlog based content, to me it fells more "real" and in this episode it worked so sooo well. Made me sit on the egde of the chair like a real scaredy-cat. I almost got a freaking heart attack even though I already knew someone would show up 😂
The end gave me chills
I actually like the vlog videos more cause it's just more lighthearted and that's the way first season was filmed
I literally gasped out loud when the you know what happened.
The vlog style vids are so good tho it makes it more real
Sam-“Do you just wanna leave Woods by himself?”
Matt-“nothing’s gonna happen”
Me overthinking- *oh no oh no Woods is gonna get kidnapped and he’s gonna get injected and he’ll be Murdered or turned into a phantom or he’s gon-*
Same
I was scared they would come back to him missing.
@@xmayoburkex he still could be missing they all jumped in with out checking he was still in there
yeah i was thinking something was going to happen to woods. I know they weren't gone for long but maybe something still could have happened to him as we didn't get to see him and the others didn't look back to see if he was still there
Or hit in the head again
Matt "There's no way it's a body"
Sam "Can you actually say that confidently?"
Matt "no😑"
Me hahahah
They have hilarious chemistry🤣 .
Woods: "gets waken up from good CALM nap"
The crew: "Jumps into van the the daylights scared out of them" WOODS HE'S HERE
i thought he said "woods wake up"
@@sssfriends21 oh yah that's right I guess I just miss heard
No he definitely said woods wake up
Maybe that’s why Wes and deb couldnt finish hiding the serum because Wes was murdered
That's exactly what I was thinking this is an amazing theory
Sam had the most important comment of this entire series after Matt said "Who puts pepperoni on the crust?"...Sam: "Someone who cares about you". yes.
I agree
i love how at the end mat yells "WOODS WAKE UP"
Reminds me of call of duty
Woods was the phantom, that’s why he was “asleep”
In my opinion, so far this has been the best mixture of old school style vlogging and more serious Project 863 vibes. Shows that Matt and the others at Spellbound are very much in tune with audience feedback. Great job bouncing back, guys.
Theory: Wes is actually alive. The grave is a distraction to make Deb think that Wes is dead, and Nelson is really using him as a phantom (which is why his name was on all those documents in the RV). He was shot, but Nelson is pumping him full of serum to keep him alive to help him in his fight against Deb and Project 863.
This theory right here.
POST THIS TO SPELLBOUND!
Okay, this is relatable. You could post this in SpellBound.
Wow that's some out of the box thinking right there
But deb has said stuff about wes being alive
Theory: the shooter was Nelson and person that got shot was Wes and he was shot on 08,06,03 and because Wes and deb were in a relationship then deb was very mad about Nelson shooting Wes so she created project 863 to take down Nelson syphus and get vengeance for wes
But then who's the phantom?
She said that she doesn't know where Wesley is. This means that D3B thinks that Wesley is alive. If she knew that he was dead then she would have said that it wasn't Wesley that was the phantom
Bc we thought it was wes
@@idekidec3787 I'm not sure but like it was mentioned in the video,it could be the person that killed him, we've got a lot to figure out still
@@idekidec3787 I think it’s Wes but nelson brought him back to life with the serum after nelson shoot him.
I really like the vlog type style videos for these because it gives the ‘teens out solving mysteries’ kinda vibes that I’m all here for lmao
It gives ligter Sam and Colby vibes
Woods: "Is that like a mutated spider?"
Me: "No woods, you won't be Spider-man, don't even try to get bitten."
Um peter parker got bitten by a radioactive spider not a mutated spider
@@Blssd18 I just went with the wording Woods used. Since the geiger counter (which measures radiation) hit near the spider, it would be radioactive.
@@MrStatistx yeah guess I didn’t think of that
I really loved this. Felt just like season one with that production quality of season two. It didn't feel too scripted, seemed totally possible, even throwing in some season one music (I believe) it was amazing. Really brought back that natural feeling to it. When the whole video is what's going on and nothing else- it tends to seem more like only story- but when it is like a vlog, it seems like it is actually happening along your other daily activities and in your lives.
agree the last 4 have really been kinda "off" this one was nice. I dont think its their fault its just some of the things they want to happen in the story with the budget and frame work they have come off as "cheap" they have made it work, but their are some episodes where its really hard to suspend disbelief
Matt: "woods wake up."
Woods: [slowly being dragged somewhere]
@@brianorozco1074 thats i was thinking when they left woods in the van i was like "you gonna leave woods alone by HIMSELF what if something happend
When Sam and Matt held the lanterns at each other it reminded me of when Sam called Matt an old man in the glass breaking overnight challenge
I absolutely love this episode. The vlog, Bailey being there, also asking questions we have, the tension, the cliffhanger. I missed the old style 🥺
Possible murder: Shows up
Everyone else: Runs and panics
Meanwhile Woods: Sleeping peacefully
Dude he wasn't dangerous he was just looking at the grave
There had to have something happened to woods
Zzz
Possible murderer: **walks in the opposite direction very calmly**
Maybe that was woods 😅
I'm sorry but I appreciate letting woods sleep instead of waking him up and making him tag along, I just found it cute
You find it cute but I find it dangerous! They didn’t even lock the doors and just left him in the Van unconscious. What if someone got into the van!?
@@Jaxnay219 oh no I see what you mean, maybe they were doubting anyone would show??
@@Jnjojuno Maybe, but knowing what they’ve been going through the past 3 years they shouldn’t be taking chances!
@@Jnjojuno sorry if I came off mean or anything lol! That wasn’t my intention!!😆
“It’s all so serious where I started I was just having fun, it’s time to get back to my roots”
This quote is so freaking amazing ❤️🎶
I would just straight up ask deb “did Wes die on 08-06-03” and see what she says
Yhhhhh
I think she would speak like a robot
And when they mention that, she’ll get triggered and maybe even show EMOTION
@@brianorozco1074 to see what he would say. Instead of turning around and running, Ik it’s scary but maybe he can help in a way?
@@brianorozco1074 Yh
And the he hypnotises them and injects them
WOOOHOOO FUN 😅
Nah I’m only playin, decent idea for ngl
Theory: the spirits that are haunting hi5 studios are the dead experiments of syntec.
I thought that as well. It sounds very plausible.
yooooooo thats a crazy thought
Oh gosh
I had that thought in the back of my mind
My heart skipped a beat when the red eyes just suddenly flashed and it’s been pounding ever since oml. Amazing episode, love the old style, keep up the good work! 😁
I was thinking it would be a shadow figure & nobody would be there just to mess with us. Near died when I saw the red eyes ☠️
At 26:57 you can see the eyes of the phantom! Look past the lantern Matt is holding, they’re right behind them.
Theory time: the phantom is at the grave at 3am he ain’t there for Matt and them he’s there for the grave. (I took a photo and will post it on spellbound+ and this theory there too) he seems to be mourning like he lost someone Bc he doesn’t start chasing them or running he just stands there and turns to look at them. Another thing They didn’t see a car, which means he is either parked elsewhere OR he walked to the grave, which could also mean his one of his hideouts is there
Oh, this is good! Makes me think about the kid toys in the mountaineer, that the Phantom is actually Deb and Wes's kid.
He looked surprised to see them. My question how did he get there without them knowing? Didn't he have to drive? How could he not see the big white van? I don't think Wes is dead.
I though it was kinda obvious that the phantom wasn't there for them but for the grave
@@jsjazz12 1. They were playing games and eating snaks + the phantom could've came from any direction
2. He could've parked elsewhere or just walk as you dont know where he lives
3. Its 3am
It might me like it, but then what about the stuff that they found? Maybe he killed someone and burried the stuff next to the grave and is regreting of what he has done?
I can’t lie. I’ve never been more scared at a UA-cam video than this. Also loving the old blog type videos.
Agreed
Matt: "WOODS WAKE UP!"
Woods: "wha- huh? whatds happenin?"
May be woods is missing.... that's what's might be waiting for us in the next epidose.
I din't like the way they left woods there and after seeing "phantom" when they ran back the lights on the van were turned on.
@@Jkay400x ngl you just made my mind twisr
26:40 Pause it right here.
The phantom said
"My work is done now thanks to you, for leading me to the absolate where poor Wesley was buried"
You can see him in the distance they literally lead him right to it
Bruh the ending was so scary. Good job on making chill episode into a tense and stressful moment at the the end. You guys never cease to amaze me keep it up.
I'm happy hearing quinn's voice even just the giggles when they were shopping for snacks. I'd like to hear more of him talking
The show that I love is back! This week’s episode is exactly what I was hoping to get. It felt more grounded in the real world, there was some light hearted content leading up to the bigger suspenseful reveals and the music was great as well! These vlog moments felt natural unlike the weird dope or nope bit moments like we’ve seen the past few videos.
Incorporating this type of content into the main story is very very refreshing, it’s not constantly this dark story of murders and stress. We get to see your old selves
Just something I noticed, the phantoms mask seemed to be in really good shape this episode-fully intact, tubes are connected and both eyes are lit up. Just something I noticed
Yah...I'd say they had some time to fix themselves up a bit.
@@thea1andonly or the eyes don't have to work in the daytime so he only would need them at night to see
Also something we (I think) havent seen before, the tubes this time were glowing
whenever i get the notification that there’s a new premiere i get suddenly happy :)) since i know it’s gonna be a good episode
samee
I didn't think you could be more true
Same but then I see it is another vlog and then I get mad
@@calebandrews4437 i even like the blogs tbh :))
Fr I’ll be bored having nothing to watch then I just get a notification that there’s a premiere. =)
Theory - Deb named the project "project 863" after the date that her lover was murdered in cold blood by one of nelsons phantoms or Nelson himself and she didn't tell you as she didn't want to remember her love is dead along with Wes so she created project 863 to honour him and get justice for him, his family and her but also she didn't tell you as it could have messed up the mission .
Her love is wes. One and the same
Good theory but I am still wondering why the concrete with the D and the W with a heart was broken. I would appreciate if someone can responde back with a theory or a thought :)
But earlier she mentioned she didn’t know the whereabouts of Wes and it sounded like she really didn’t care! I think there’s a 4th person to this story that wasn’t introduced yet! Think about it! There are 4 subjects so maybe there was a 4th person in there group that despised Wes!!
i like this theory too
Thought.... The phantom that killed wes stole his identity and is looking for the syrum but since wes(W) and Deb (D) were lovers and hid some of the syrum together they put their initials to symbolise their love and since wes and deb created project 863(the end to syntec) the phantom broke the heart 1 to get the syrum and 2 to symbolise their is NO more Wes and Deb and soon syntec will prevail?
i’m watching these videos back and it is kinda funny how clueless they were back then and how far they have come in like 3 months… much live! 💕💕
I love how they’re including Bailey and Quinn!! having more people on the team makes it more interesting. those two can be the tag team people or and subject four!! my only critique is that I kind of wish the gravestone was dirtier and they had to like rub off the dirt to see the numbers and everything. With the case they find it give the illusion that it’s been there for a while but the case that they found that was really cool but Super scary and realistically would be a terrible thing to take with because you’re not sure if like you know the rest of their body parts or something weird could be in it.
Mandy the phantom has been tasking care of it we saw he was there
I’m thinking it could be the murder weapon!
@@catzfuhdays what could be?
@@connorrhun Dude maybe the phantom cleans it or Deb
@@GoodKingMody I was thinking the box could have the murder weapon in it
Theory: Deb (probably) knows that Wes has been murdered by Nelson. Hence why she created Project 863 to seek vengeance for his murder
The thing is though, she has said she doesn't know where he is, if she was working with the undercover cop, she would of probably already had this info then to give to them, it could be true, but a more likely idea is that whoever was in the car in the murder tape, quickly drove and burried Wes, put the grave stone there, since they seem to want to probably let Deb know who was there, with the 015. With Deb thinking that Wes has disappeared, these phantoms appearing and probably seeing one used Wes details for some things, assumed the worst and went into hiding to protect herself and that is where we are now, Deb clueless about Wes' actual fate, thinking he either turn against her or is somewhere ploting.
or maybe even to revive wes
@@wintr7803 That's what I'm thinking too. And the Phantom that was near the grave may have been Deb
That's what I am thinking!!
@@lilithicanna1861 Exactly!! And that’s why I think there’s a 4th person that hasn’t been mentioned yet! If you think about it there are 4 subjects in project 863, Matt, Woods, Sam, and Us. What if there was a 4th member in their Syntec Corporation!? Nelson, Deb, Wes, and unknown!!
When they found out Wes was the one murdered I was so sad I was kind of hoping that they would save Wes and then Wes and Deb would get back together. That’s so sad
We don’t have any “concrete” evidence that is Wes. We only have a (cheesy) quasi tomb stone with numbers on it. If they would have dug up the body, and gotten dna samples for complete verification, then I’d say we’d have reason to fear the worse for Wes. Everything up to this point is still theory, conjecture and here say.
"if I win at slap jack, I'm going to come slap you" what a good friend you are Matt, making sure Woods is included in the game XD
This could’ve been said somewhere but what if the phantom still is Wes and he actually faked his death in the video from 08/06/03? Deb said she “doesn’t know his current location” never stating he was dead and she had said the serum changes you so it’s possible that the only part of normal Wes left inside the phantom is visiting his own grave for some reason
Lol, the last part.
I was thinking maybe that Wes actually did die. Because someone maybe syphus took it too far and murdered Wes. And that's what started project 863 as a way to try to bring him back. Possibly why it's called life's blood. But it ended up turning him into some sort of monster and changed him. So thats the grave for his old self. Just thoughts here.
@@kablammox6433 Thats a good theory I completely agree
@@kablammox6433 But like what’s the Blue sream
I get such a good feeling whenever I see another 863 video in my recommended feed, even if the video sounds spooky👻
Same its a whole different vibe you know
I feel you
@@Blssd18 I 100% know!
I reckon that is "Deb" in phantom costume at last near the grave of Wes. Pretty sure. Because he/she didn't seem in hurry / after seeing mat and team, he/she didn't reacted the way a phantom would've reacted. Felt calm. IMO
Do you mean deb wanted to blend in so the real phantons dont go after her
@@Braam77631 Exactly. Chances are there are multiple phantoms. So if they saw her it won't be issue.
I actually love when you vlog it’s fun to watch I also like that Bailey is getting more on camera I would love if she became a part of the main characters in the series!❤️
I'm sus of Deb. She's been saying she don't know what happened to Wes yet her project is called 863.. something don't add up. Deb may not be as nice as she seems.
i think it’s because “08/06/03” is the date that wes “died” when in reality, he got shot and syphus used life’s blood to keep him alive and under his thumb and made it look like he was murdered. in deb’s mind, wes DID die that day; just not physically. hence, project 863
Maybe deb is phantom
Maybe she knew he went missing, but didn't know what happened, like, they were dating, so it would be obvious for her, if he went missing.
That is probably the day Wes went missing
@@huskytemp1753 I’m convinced deb is phantom, maybe we have had it twisted the whole time. Maybe nelson is trying to find the serums to prevent deb from doing some mass murder type thing, something super messed up. She’s posing as the nice guy to get Matt, Sam and woods to hunt the serum before nelson finds it, maybe Wes found out her plan, she offed him and is framing nelson, which may explain why he’s off the grid, possibly trying to prove its deb. whilst also hunting the serum to destroy it, or maybe deb infected nelson to try keep him on her leash but he escaped, which is why he’s hunting and trying to recreate the serums. If nelson really is a killer then he would have just offed Matt Sam and woods and stole all their serum finding equipment as well as the serums they’ve found… why go through all the trouble?
Ok, given what was found, 4 possible outcomes come to mind.
1. Wes was the one shot in the Mountaineer and buried at that location to make it seem he just vanished.
2. It is a decoy to throw anyone looking for Wes off the trail.
3. Wes is the phantom and he faked his own death to cover up he is the phantom.
4. Wes and Syphus are actually working together to further the experiments and this grave is nothing but a red herring
I like 1
I like 3
Seems pretty cool
If Wes isn’t really dead, which is possible, why would he use his name if the hope was to disassociate himself
@@maskedmenace5013
That answer is simple. Let's say the phantom is Wes. By faking his death no one would immediately suspect him. Giving himself time to become and execute his plan as the phantom
@@wolfkind8714 Plus, he wasn't counting on Project 863 going through his RV, so of course he's going to use his real name!
The phantom looking up was the most terrifying thing ever
i love how woods is just sleeping so comfortably and the phantom is at the grave and everyones freakin out, i also freaked out. anytime something like this happens, i get a weird feeling in my stomach, my hearts beats fast and i FREAK OUT. i love this channel/series
I'm just going to put a curveball out there and say that the grave is actually Nelson who's buried there and Wes has been using Syphus's identity to control everything.
I don't think that's true cuz remember that the phantom threatened Matt by texting him that Matt would not want him to tell all of this to Nelson and then we found out that the person Matt was texting is actually the phantom and not Nelson
Idk maybe phatom was just scaring them but I do believe that Nelson is alive or else why would deb need the project 863 in the first place if the reason of deb starting the project was to destroy Nelson syphus
@@uhamza448 We know there are multiple phantoms. Plus if we assume that Syphus is wearing a facemask like the phantoms we've seen. It's possible no one could tell the difference.
Its either that or that is an empty grave with probably some viles or some other evidence and the phantom they saw is Wes who just went to the grave to remember his old self.
@@jaydenmaxxwel9256 your theory about the grave being empty and something else init is actually pretty good I genuinely believe now that it's true
Lol. Now, that's a great plot twist.
Since deb and wess where dating she must of named the protect after wess "went missing" .I think they didn't put wesses name on the grave stone so people didn't know that he died or what happened to him.
You guys, that spider is the reason the geiger counter was going off if you let it bite you you would’ve turned into Spider-Man
🤣🤣same thinking
“WOODS WAKE UP” sounds like a tired dad getting his kid up for school cause he missed the bus LMAO
U guys should definitely incorporate Bailey as one of the main characters or at least give her a mic next time 😂
13:48
Sam starts riding the cart and kicking her leg back in the air for like one frame and then acts casual as if nothing happened when she is directly on camera.
Possible Theory: What if Wes staged his death and had someone “kill” him in the mountaineer so that He wouldn’t have to choose between Nelson or Deb and could go on his own path and with some of the other syntec employees
so that he could study the serum and antidote
But, why would he talk to "someone" else about Matt, Sam and Woods breaking into his mini-van? (When the found the documents about renting a car and letters from Deb.)
@@jazzswift4221 Well there’s no saying the person he was talking to was Nelson we just assumed it was Nelson maybe it was one the employees that came with him in my theory
I know this theory doesn’t have a lot of evidence to go with it but it seems possible in some context
@@xxdarkcobraxx I like it
Okay but I absolutely love Sam and Baileys dynamic/friendship in these videos ((: they seem almost sisterly in a way I don't know. I love how they're adding her to these videos more as well.
Remember how Deb talked about not allowing something to happen again when talking to Wes? What if she was talking about Wes getting killed? She knew the date so she called the project the date of Wes' murder in order to remember the date. Also, people are talking about Nelson being the killer, if that is true what if Nelson somehow did not mean to kill Wes and goes to the grave at a certain time, under the cover of darkness, to visit Wes' grave.
Matt:- "ITS A CHILD!!!"
Woods:- "i dont like that."
Opposite way around
Okay here is a theory,
We know that Deb and Wes were in a relationship. What if before Deb and Wes became a “thing” Deb was dating/cheating on Nelson. Then later on Deb found out she was pregnant with Wes being the father. Nelson found out and was blinded with rage. Therefor, Nelson Murdered Wes and broke things off with Deb.(This would explain why we have found so many kids items. Also why Nelson called Deb “manipulative”)
Hours up. That’s such like a good theory tho and like the one that was at the grave is the son
I actually love the vlogging. I’m with Sam, it’s familiar. I kinda miss the old vlogging tbh. The story is great and all, just miss seeing how everyone is doing and what they’re up to.
Matt: "What could possibly happen?"
Phantom: *stands and stare at their soul*
in my opinion looks like slenderman-
What if the phantom is syfes
@@spikeoliver4818 omg yess it cud be,also its syphus
@@spikeoliver4818 like u spelled it wrong
@@randomness2465 s y f e s
Farfetched but here's my theory: The phantom is Wes, but Wes killed whoever was in the mountaineer and faked his own death by burying whoever was killed in the grave and marked it 015. The big hole in my theory is what the motive behind that would be...
That's a theory I haven't heard, that would be wild if that's the case!
maybe to escape syphus or/and deb
He chose syphus, but I think the grave is empty
@@rasmusekblad6997 Oh that's a good thought too. Like, maybe the murder was faked and no one was really killed? Maybe, if that's the case then something is hidden in the grave.
@@BigAdmiralM exaktly
When Matt yelled, "No...no...THAT'S NOT MIKE!" I HAD A MINI HEART ATTACK. MAAATTTTT DON'T DO THAT, MY HEART.
I really like how you can sometimes see the light on the phantom’s mask in the distance while they’re at the grave.
"GO GO GO GO GO"
" Make sure to check out our new merch designs."
LOL😂😂
Hahahahahahah truee 😂
Well snap - I won’t be going to sleep for a while now…my heart is racing 😅 GREAT EPISODE!
The way he said woods wake up is like my mom waking me up for school.
Me rewatching the project 865 videos:
Matt: "Imagine you had a friend"
*O'Riley ad starts playing*
Matthias: We have the van, we have pizza. Don’t you dare get it on, the seats. Or on the floor.
Why is he just standing there? I get that the automatic impulse of seeing him would be to run (i would too) but i almost feel like you didn't need to. He looks like a ghost. He wasn't trying to be hidden, or trying to stay out of sight, he was just *there.* Very eerie, very interesting. Looking forward to next wednesday, to see what happens next.
Crazy idea- make a stake out and finally confront this 'phantom' on a beaten ground. No need to fight buut to talk?
Ikr, he was just standing whereas in the first stakeout he ran as fast as he could. Either he's not the same phantom or he is done hiding.
It looked to me like he was mourning
@@24zawisza That might be a good idea. If they were to do that, they obviously would need to come prepared but idk, i feel like they could do something.
“White chocolate is distasteful”
*pops another one in his mouth*
I like that the vlogging and certain little challenges are back mixed in with the 863 stuff.
the cliffhangers killsss mee :((
they need to do one ep where it seems like it's going to be a cliffhanger but then they continue the story so like 2 ep in one as special long ep
I gotta say I think switching it up like this is a great idea. A more laid back atmosphere makes the tension feel more real when it comes, and makes the breaks in-between refreshing
Anyone else REALLY want to see the go pro footage. I bet the phantom saw the go pro and pushed it off the branch and said *strike three*
35:34
Matt: Nothing gonna happen, what's gonna happen?
Literally a few seconds later when they see the Phantom
Matt: Go go go go go go go!
?
I wanna live:v
Honestly, Matt should have his van painted black. White stands out at night
Well he wouldn’t do that cuz he bought the van for like travelling with a lot of people not for staking out at night
@@ahmaddegmaster425 you can shove off, you smart-@ss. He could have still have a black van. Plus white looks cheap.
@@mabelann4568 so what if it looks cheap it’s his van
theory: wes and deb never broke up, wes died while they were still dating. deb tells everyone they broke up so she doesn’t have to remember the tragic night her lover was murdered. the only reason project 863 came together is to take justice and revenge for wes. the only reason she won’t tell you is cause knowing it’s wes and knowing details about the murder could jeopardize the project
What if deb killed Wes to get power and is tricking subject’s 1234
@subject-04 ya, he would come up with theory’s no one dared to touch
I think deb = killer
Indo sendiri 😭🔫
or she took the serum and went crazy, killed wes, and didn't want to come to terms with it so she made up the story about the break up and is ashamed of whats shes done so shes trying to figure out why she did what she did
I am so happy these kind of old school Hi 5 videos are back. The videos that helped me get through the tough times!! Thank you Matt for everything!!
When rewatching, I'm starting to notice possible clues in Matt's behavior
It's cool but also creepy to see if you know what happened-
It was halarious when matt said why do you have to point with your middle finger, censor that. Then you could see woods shadow using all his fingers🤣
This could be the ghost hunt video they said they should do on the FIRST “interaction” with the “ghost” video if u don’t remember I’ll explain. So they spent the night at hi5studios and captured some spooky stuff and in that video they said they should do like a ghost video this might very well BE that ghost video. Only the true 863 fans will remember that video
I love that video I hope they do another on
I think this is that video and they did do another one
I do
The fact that the phantom was their and was just standing their menacingly was so scary and creepy.
“Imagine that you had a friend- add plays” me laughs Sterically “hahaha ah who doesn’t want to die huh? 😅”
At around 26:39 you can see the phantom’s mask seen to flash. He’s also there earlier on while they figure out that it’s Wes’ burial site. I believe the phantom placed it there to try and trap you guys again
I saw it too!
DUDE SAME! I came down here to see if anyone else caught that!
Same
I’m glad they are going back to the vlog style because it relieves my stress. I am very afraid of the dark so I hate these types of videos, but I love the series
Maaaatttt, PLEASE add Bailey in more videos. Absolutely love her character. And, only if she’s comfortable with it of course, maybe consider making her a main character???? Love y’all. Great video.
In the we are 863 video, someone referenced that life’s blood brings you back from the dead. This would make sense because theres a tombstone for wesley and of what we think, the phantom is wesley too. Therefore someone injected wes with the serum (lifes blood) and brought him back to life and the phantom who visited the grave is wes.
I LOVED THESE OVERNIGHT CHALLENGES! this is such a nice throughback!
Matt: imagine if you had friends…
Sam: i dont…
Dont worry Sam ill be ur friend :)
the vlogs definitely make it feel more real!! it truly makes me feel that these strange occurrences are really happening to you guys even though i know the magic behind it!!
About people not liking the vlog thing. I quite enjoy it. It reminds me of old Hi5. Which I was really fond of so keep up the good work Matt, and everybody.