Jim Cornette Interviews Steve Austin (Part Two)
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I would rather listen to these two legends talk about old-school rasslin' than watch the current stuff.
Todd Schneck me as well
Me too!
Fact!!
I wish it was like 10 hours long I could listen 2 these 2 legends all day
old fart stuck in the past
Jim @ 30:20 -- "I wanna be the guy that comes out and says, 'You dumb fucks, don't you realize you've been paying me half a million a year for the last three years. I save my money. Go piss up a rope. I don't need the job next week.'"
Isn't that pretty much what CM Punk did?
Part 1 and 2. So great. These days will never come again
Breaks my heart man!! As bad as I hate to admit it, unfortunately you are right my friend
That's a fuckin fact, my man...
Why not? It's so easy to make good wrestling. It's just the authority in control that's the problem.
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@@pizzahighfive2612 Wrestln Sucks!
Listening to this is BETTER than AEW NXT NJPW ROH and WWE
Jordan D combined x 10 lol
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Wrong
Because they’re remnants of real pro wrestling with real , believable personality
Someone should create a throwback wrestling show based of the look and feel of the 1980s.
That's just not possible cuz few guys work like that and the promoters are all politically correct pussies
They tried that with NWA but Corgan is an even BIGGER mark of himself than tk. Almost impossible to make chicken salad out of chicken shit when your roster consists of the reject's rejects (ex TNA/ex DSW jobbers, and post Cornette OVW)
I can't think of anything to say that everyone else here hasn't already said. Just great days, long ago. As the future gets darker, the past gets brighter. I'm eternally greatful that iwas born in 75 and got to experience the best years of wrestling
This stuff is gold the knowledge and experiences they bring to life Thanks Guys
0:30 "How do guys get over these days?"
They don't.
Tell that to Braun, Rusev and possibly Elias.
Yeah, no bodies....
Who?
@@rumtuckskatter A year later, and all 3 you mentioned are joke characters or jobbers 😂😂😭
David R 2 years later and Braus is hated. Rusev fired. And Elias still not doing shit.
Guaranteed contracts is what changed.
I wish All Petite Wrestling would listen to this. Watching Stone Cole comeback after 19 years, basically do a brawl: kick, punch, 2 suplexes, & 2 stunners. The crowd was BANANAS!!! 48 super licks, 26 false finishes, 600 flips/dives, & crowd barely pops. It is dumb.
The bane of AEW’s existence is to pop Dave Meltzer. Wrestlers forgot about drawing money and focused on the star ratings.
Brian Last would've been so much better here. A couple hours of Corny, Stone Cold, and Brian would be incredible
Brian Last would've been marking out all day long. Make a great show even better!
Austin predicted Nakamura in wwe
USWA was on regular TV. It still gave the wrestlers a celebrity status at the local level.
Ask the Von Erichs, killed themselves with celebrity. And killed the territory. Fucking GLOW was better than WCCW.
There's definitely a book or a TV show in the adventures of Hershey the Chocolate Labrador!
austin predicted nakamura's success in the states, but not his downfall...
It's partially his own fault tbf. He's often indicated he's perfectly happy to just do whatever and simply collect WWE money and go off surfing on American beaches in his spare time.
Sure it doesn't excuse most of his booking but perhaps someone a bit younger and hungrier might have pushed back on his booking and gotten things changed or gotten frustrated and left the WWE by now.
Steve predicted Shinsuke Nakamura in a throwaway line! Dude has his finger on the pulse!
Austin took the last of the real heat with him when he retired.
I want to start a promotion that focuses on the sport with fan voted performance bonuses to the wrestlers and a legit ranking hierarchy and weight classes with the open weight class as the flagship title with guys getting bonuses with those titles. Let guys work with writers and producers they work well with to build storylines and have pitch meetings similar to how SNL does their business but cutting out 90% of the cheesy skits.
@Mike Keller whodat?
Stone cold Steve Austin is Jim cornette‘s Kryptonite for Jim’s Mouth which makes cornette shut up n listen instead of Cutting off someone while they are talking nope he can’t do that to Austin lol.
Gangrel just opened a school here in south Florida a few months ago
and my way of thinking is dont boo or cheer to me silence speaks volumes.. i saw carmella try 2 "mellabrations" and she was so bad the crowd was actually silent both times..they had to have someone come from the back to interfere
I'm older I guess, I know Austin and punk would be a big draw nowadays, but if I could see one more dream match it'd be stone cold and Bret Hart again.
Dream match for me is Sting and Undertaker. We were so close. But The Cerebral Shithead needed another ego boost so he could get a hard on for Steph.
It's funny that Kurt Angle doesn't even make my top 5 favourite wrestler list (he's still an all time great)but he features in most of my dream matches.
-vs Curt Hennig
-vs Ken Shamrock
-vs Bret Hart
I've never been a huge, huge fan. But he's an absolute beast though. Probably one of the greatest pure wrestlers ever.
We still have territories NWA Impact wrestling and AEW however nobody works together anymore
Steve saying that Nakamura would have a good run in the States... Depressing to think of it right now...
Anybody that thinks that JC is out of touch, listen to this. Make me believe. Build up excitement. They’re called high spots because they are highlights,, not the whole show. If every movéis a high spot, nothing matters. Austin couldn’t do the huge moves, but nobody told a better story.
If some of the outlaw wrestlers and their fans of today think Jim is just being mean to them, listen to Steve here saying all the same things. There’s a right way to do it and a wrong way… take the critiques, wise up.
That whole brass ring stuff from Vince was such horseshit lol. They have the chosen ones they want & to hell with anyone who gets over of their own accord.
See Jim just said it
the rating back to tv14 would change everything.... its the only way to make a fight seem REAL.... and Bret vs Austin didn't need anything but some foul language and a little blood with nothing truly of bad taste to make you want to see who is the "BEST" because wins DID matter.
You can be real without being TV14, all that allowed was those shit pillow fights and "Asses/Goddamn's" Being dropped with weird rape angles, Lesnar/Reigns is showing they can use firm language and punk proved that you can pop off on the mic and make a rivalry good with or without TV14, Everyone can do it if they try or if they got rid of these fucking writers that can't write an even half-assed story or promo they would be a lot better off, the reason they're so up-in-arms about blood is due to the sponsors. i really don't think something like snickers will give a shit if a guy bleeds during a match, people bleed during MMA fights but they still get sponsors, if they'd grow a fucking set and do what they do and quit worrying about the opinion of everyone else they'd draw more attention and ratings, the downside of becoming a fucking publicly traded company. you can do stock frauds all day to make dough, but your fanbase is gonna suffer in the long run from this autistic shit they continue to pull.
The newer talent complacency is the biggest problem! They will get paid regardless of weather they get over or not! I've been saying, take that guaranteed money away and see who takes that brass ring. I guarantee that fixes this within a year. I bet Jim and Steve would agree.
I’d say don’t take the guarantees away completely, but level them so they get a basic no frills life, no bonuses, if they don’t draw.
But to make the pay scale fairer, if the opening match does its job properly to warm up the crowd, give them a little extra, cos every spot on the card has its purpose, even if it’s to cool off the crowd after a hot angle match before putting on the main event.
I miss the guys who were like Bret & Owen Hart; Benoit; and the others from Calgary Stampede Wrestling territory because those guys incorporated a lot of match wrestling in repertoire. It was fun to watch. Just not the same any morr
Ya,I miss stampede,best live wrestling I've ever seen.They'd fight in the crowd, bleed,there heels were great and it looked real.They invented the ladder match, the triple threat and produced alot of the top wrestlers in the business.Bret,Davey,Dynamite,Pillman,Benoit,Bad News and many more.Probably the most underrated territory, if you got to see it every week and attend the live shows consider yourself lucky.
Stampede has been recently resurrected under the name of Dungeon Wrestling and it's co-run by Bret Hart's sons Blade and Dallas. Their reigning world champion is Nick Aldis and the tag team champions are none other than the Dynamite Kid's nephews, known collectively as the Billington Bulldogs
pretty sad when the highest rating raw has gotten was when it featured talent from the 90's and early 2000's says alot about current roster dont u think?
It speaks to the quality of booking, judging booking comes before judging talent.
It's the combination of everything, including roster.
I think austin/cena would draw more then punk or lesnar.
Why?
Because you have the face of the attitude era vs the face of the PG era. You'd have the attitude era fans and the PG era fans argueing on twitter, FB, etc. I get chills just thinking about that match/buildup.
It would be the ultimate culture clash.
I would love that match /buildup to the match. But one big problem in wrestling now is everyone is smart to what's happening because of the Internet.There's no magic anymore.
NxT is better. Why? It’s ran by Triple H and William Regal: two former wrestlers who know the business.
and why on earth do u give the women's title to people who cant wrestle and were managers and people like charlotte flair and asuka get the shaft!
Sonuvabitch
Listening to this reminds me why I never missed Memphis wrestling every Saturday morning.
Shit was as real as it got. The atmosphere. The off the cuff. None of that is present today
ive ALWAYS wondered, why is it that Mexico's wrestling is always left out of the "great indy wrestling" conversation. they literally still keep it old school like in the territory days in the sense that they try to get heat as a heel from the crowd, they wrestle as a. "shoot" also to make it look real. hell they've given us EDDIE GUERRERO,REY MYSTERIO, LITA TRAINED OVER AT MEXICO, ALBERTO DEL RIO, KALISTO, ANDRADE CIEN ALMAS, to name a few. i just dont get it. smh
Agreed. I always like La Parka
Isn't it strange. You have arguably the most popular pro wrestler of all time talking for an hour about how crappy the business is....are the fans the only ones listening to this? WTH. Where are the people in the business. They should hear this and start to make changes.
Well, the problem is they do hear people with Steves status, also cornys status as a promoter and basically everything else in wrestling apart from an in the ring talent, they hear everything but they don't care and are very stuck in their ways, "they" meaning vince.
So it's not like they don't hear everyone being critical of them, they are too big for their own good. I believe vince and company think they truly are taking the right steps. The thing is us older fans are being basically pushed away and new fans are being realed in. Many hardcore fans left I've been here for awhile, I don't keep up with the current day product, I still focus on all the old stuff even if I know most of it already.
Yeah, I just Loved That Ever So Annoying Screechy Voice... Stephanie Has Turn The Channel Heat, Nothing Else!
No, strong style is elbow, knee strikes and submissions. Its not more stiff. Working stiffer is called stupid style.
Exactly. It's amazing how often presumably smart people fail to understand what "strong style" actually means.
Like not having closed hand punches and throwing your opponent over the top rope? Like SMW? Lol, You guys are over smarked. Those things were allowed in wrestling forever. Smarks.
Cornette needs to let Steve finish his sentences
I could listen to them talk about the old days forever
4ever Nigga!!
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Want dis shit 4ever man 4ever!
Flat tires and blow jobs is a fantastic book title lmao
Goldberg vs Austin-still the biggest match for me that never came to be
Same here. Would have probably set an all-time record for buyrates during that era.
I almost like to think Steve turned round and said "The people didn't come, pay their money to watch stone cold Jackhammered and pinned in half a god damn minute!" and storms out yelling son'bitch.
Just watch Goldberg vs DDP-that's what their match could've been but only on a even bigger scale with a much bigger star in Steve Austin. By no means a squash match and made both guys look good in their own way.
No psychologically you sacrifice a heel run in to get the DQ, thus Heel get's a rub and Face gets heat on another heel. Next week Face gets a win, maybe interference and face beats off the Heels. Next week, Heel cuts a promo, get's assaulted by face or beats heel in ring. Whichever keeps a smolder. Like Corney said, options.
I’m not sure what you’re saying here in reply to what my comment actually said...but you said,”face beats off the heels” and I literally LOL’d!
I highly recommend the WAW training school in Norwich, England
Call it in the ring!
I wonder how long stone cold would had gone had it not been for his injuries.
Steve eluded the Leg Drop! I loved that, Bret Hart was overshadowed by Hogan, Stone Cold never had that overhanging problem!
@Steve Winwood I'm a fan of all three, Bret most of all because he was so good technically and at building good matches through his entire carreer! Hogan and Austin were charismatic and skilled performers, each one Hogan, Bret , and Austin were amazing in their own way and each ahead of the times in look, athleticism, or mic skills!
Did Stone Cold say Stephanie McMahon has always been platinum on the microphone? I like Stone Cold but wow...
I had the exact same thought. That schtick that they do as "The Authority" hasn't been entertaining since Mr. McMahon vs. Stone Cold were going at it. Someone needs to put a fire under WWE's creative team. The product sucks now.
Jeffrey Riley
She's good at getting heat so yeah....maybe a bit overstated but not untrue.
She is.. it's the fact that people actually hate her and have this perception of her. She uses it and draw's heat as hell character.
She draws heat because she's a McMahon. After 1998, she was going to get automatic heat.
She gets heat because she's a McMahon. She's "Heat by birth."
Why the hell would anyone want to work with wwe? If you're a legit athlete you'll make more money in the UFC. If you're a great talker you'll make more money on UA-cam. If you're a creative ad libber you'll make more money writing for Hollywood or TV. If you're great at acting you'll make more money ACTING.
WWE does a road show? Why do they never mention it? It's always TV shows.
Eh? They do house shows, they advertise on local TV or on websites more often than anything else, NXT is about the only thing that advertises areas on the network before going anywhere, unless i misunderstood what a road show is.
bo0tsy1 during tv show they tell you a week schedule and if they are coming to your town they will sell you on a commercial during a break
I love Jim, but when he talks about Japan he CLEARLY shows he doesn't watch it...maybe because Omega is a star there....but you took Okada vs Omega 2 and you will find some of the best selling EVER. Some of the best use of body language and facial expressions EVER. And the whole "hitting themselves as hard as possible"...I don't really know about that...how do you explain that WWE wrestlers get injured more often and worse than NJPW wrestlers? I don't know....
BlackWind90 its a great match but that style doesnt allow you to have proper selling. What i mean is 10 finishing moves that get kicked out of takes away from the point of selling not that they didnt have great facial expressions or actually look hurt but its just not believabe. Its like theyre super saiyans
KronicYouth - bro you obviously didn't watch the match. So respectfully stfu.
They get injured because they don't now how to wrestle, it's not cirque du soleil. Maybe NJPW actually is teaching wrestling.
Everyone just keeps saying all Omega/Okada did was spam finishers even though Omega didn't even land his finisher in the first match, Anytime Okada lands his it usually signals the end of the match unless hes facing a top guy, like a Tanahasi, Naito, Omega, Shibata. Okada and Omega don't just spam finishers like Cena does to make a good match, and this is coming from a fucking casual NJPW Fan that only watches big shows/matches and i know this, Do some research and don't just spout dopey shit, lads.
That falls more into what Austin said, overacting.
first of all wwe has 100+ guys on the roster..how about putting them over instead of the fucking people that run the goddamn company i never understood why management has to ever come out to the ring its a fucking wrestling show let the fucking talent work!
My dream matches with Steve austin
Vs Bruiser Brosy
Vs Stan Hansen
Vs Terry Funk 1989
Vs Ric Flair
Vs JBL
Vs C.m Punk.
They killed Kayfabe was a big part of it. It’s like “Wrestling & Kayfabe” were Siamese twins and when one died the other is alive but your forced to see the advanced state of decay of the other, it’s just not the same anymore they need to change it so it’s not so hokey and make people think they’re looking at shoot wrestling and not the circus it’s become.
Wow Jim got it exactly. With out the territory they lost their talent pool especially in the south
So we just ask Bill Gates for 3 billion dollars and give it to Corney, Stone Cold, The King, and Good Ol' J.R. and let them start a wrestling federation. Simple.
15:08 is cornette burping lol
Hangman Page drinks his beer, instead of pouring it all over his self.
This didn't hold up well bout Nakamura smh
shinetske nakamora (i spelled his name wrong and i'm too damned lazy too look it up) Its not his fault he is where he's at its vince and that stupid gimmick i'd take him more seriously if they made him more like a badass as apposed to him being a Japanese rick james!!!!!!!!
And look where Nakamura is now :|
Pussy!
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Ummm..... BRAY WYATT ? , DANIEL BRYAN , A.J. STYLES , CODY RHODES, OMEGA, MOXLY, JERICHO , ALI, HELL THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE OVER.... ITS EASIER TO BE A HEEL AN GET OVER ITS HARD AS A BABY FACE TO GET OVER I AGREE BUT OWENS AND SHANE HAVE GOT EACH OTHER OVER OVER , FINN IS ON HIS WAY 2 GETTING BACK OVER ( SUMMER SLAM IF HE GOES OUT THERE AND PUTS ON A HELL OF A PERFORMANCE IN THE LOSS TO THE FIEND THIS SUNDAY NIGHT. SETH AND BROCK BOTH STAY OVER OVER ( I DONT WANNA HEAR FROM THE COUPLE OF HAAAYTERS WHO ARE GONNA SAY SETH AINT OVER , SETH AINT ANY GOOD , BLAH BLAH BLAH .... HE IS THE MOST CONSISTANT HIGH END NIGHT IN AND NIGHT OUT PERFORMER IN THE ENTIRE WORLD , NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY TRY 2 PUSH BROCK AND ROMAN DOWN OUR THROATS ( BECAUSE JUST LIKE SINCE THE 80'S VINCE HAS A INFATUATION WITH BIG MUSCLE BOUND MEN WEATHER THEY CAN WRESTLE OR NOT , JUST LIKE THE TRIPLE THREAT MATCH THE 3 HAD A FEW SUMMER SLAMS BACK , EVEN IN DEFEAT SETH FREAKIN ROLLINS BY FAR WAS THE BEST IN THAT MATCH BY FAR , JUS LIKE ETHIER HIM , A.J., CODY OR DANIEL BRYAN ARE REALLY THE ONLY PRO WRESTLERS WHO HAVE ANY KIND OF CLAIMS AS THE BEST IN THE WORLD ( PUNK HAS BEEN AWAY FOR 2 LONG 2 HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SAY HE IS). NONE OF THOSE MEN ARE BIG MUSCLE BOUND VINCE FANTASY WRESTLERS ETHIER. SETH DEF NEEDS TO THANK TRIPLE H FOR ANY KIND OF PUSH HE GETS , BECAUSE VINCE WOULD PROLLY HAVE HIM BE A SINGLES VERSON OF THE REVIVAL OR CHASING DRAKE MAVERICK AND R TRUTH FOR THE NEW VERSION OF THE HARDCORE TITLE
Brandon Hyden Seth is so unsafe they can’t put the belt on him