I started taking cocaine since my teenage, spent my whole life fighting cocaine addiction. Also suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. This is something that really need to be used globally for treatment of certain health challenges.
It is actually so crazy to think that politics have to a right to police healthcare and that parties can use healthcare as selling point. Healthcare should not be allowed to be used in politics. It should be a completely different entity and is only allowed to be run by evidenced based science.
@@maskless1087 tbth no your wrong, the gov is majourly involved in importation\making & selling said drug's ,trust someone who has grown up & dominated the scene ,who's spent the majority of my life in the upper echolon of organised crime syndicates ,who's worked for the mob,bike gang's, cartel's, who learnt & earnt my way to the top,or don't,it's up 2 you
The issue with that is evidence is funded by the very industriers that profit off of it. So for instance multiple chemical sensitivity is medication and treatment resistant, removal of substances is the only treatment, so a lack of funding has led to nearly no study of it. Actually industries have had good reason to prevent studies one such industry is that is known to dabble in prevention of these studies is the petroleum industry. Many petroleum based products are listed among the leading substances that cause symptoms for people with MCS. Canada only declared MCS an official disability in 2017 even though MCS was first documented in 1956. Canada is one of the few countries to run studies and that was because it was costing the government a lot of money not being able to get us back to work / making us cost the government less money. Basically, it's always going to be about money and because of that evidence based science is bias in and of itself as the funding is bias. It will be bias towards the industries and organizations which are the most wealthy.
What angers me about this is not just that they did this. But that they did this fully knowing it was gonna go this way. The deaths are the point, the cruelty is the point.
I was a home detox nurse for many years, Addaction won the contract from the NHS, we don’t have a home detox service any more, drug related deaths have rocketed. No one wants to have an addiction problem, it doesn’t make a person bad. In my experience it usually comes from self medicating the pain of childhood trauma xxx sending love to anyone affected by our ignorant politicians xxx
You understand the "problem" perfectly Samantha. Like you say, no one wants to be an addict, and you certainly got it right when you mentioned childhood trauma - because it never goes away, and the weirdest thing of all is recognising all the symptoms, but feeling impotent as an adult to do anything whatsoever to deal with them, or even ameliorate/diminish their effects on you. An unhappy and chaotic or destructive childhood ends up being a life sentence. I think dependence for a lot of people becomes something that one feels that one has a handle on (yeah, 'cause I can deal with that when the time comes); the trouble is, it can be put off, or put on the back burner indefinitely, or thereabouts, while the affected person deals with the simpler things in life: like simply surviving till the next day. "The easy way out" also becomes a kind of safety net. A last resort which one knows one can face with ease and courage if that's what it comes to. You're definitely in the right place to influence people in their influential positions. It's those people on long term maintenance scripts and opioid medication that end up the creek without a paddle, because the war on drugs has become a war on pain sufferers. Government policies mean they end up stuck between a rock and a hard place. Inadequate analgesia, but it's better than nothing, no? I'm sorry you can no longer do your job properly. People like you and I need to organise in order to start educating the policy-makers, because they're like prisoners of their own making and ignorance - captives entirely lost and stumbling around in the dark. I bet you're one of the voices of reason where you work, and someone other people listen to and take notice of, no? Thank you for doing the hard work and often under-appreciated and misunderstood work that you do. There was a time when I could well have been one of your patients!
@@jonniebyford thank you kind sir, do you think that for some people, opiates enable them to keep living? I don’t know how old you are , for me, the passing of time has helped x
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
I know but a lot of us just liked to get high, I’m on Naltrexone now and know plenty of people that use the childhood trauma thing as a way to justify there addiction to themselves, I had it all with detox nurses trying to find out why I was a gear addict and plenty would not accept I just loved drugs and getting messed up with a few suggesting I had repressed trauma……..NO I liked getting high, I still like going out getting smashed in the pub and having a few lines at weekends then back to normal life on Monday.
I’ve had issues with alcohol in my time. NHS treatment is delivered slowly. It takes time to get an appointment. You then have a month or two of hoops to jump through with talking to various people, keeping drinking diaries - all before actually getting any treatment. I simply disengaged rather than wait for getting a prescription. I was left to get medication via less conventional means. An addict who has a moment of strength to seek treatment needs it NOW, not in two months time. Goodness knows how bad it is for a heroin addict to be failed by the system in this way.
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That’s an unavoidable side effect of socialized healthcare. There’s always going to be waitlists and time before you can get in anywhere because everyone has healthcare so more people going in for medical treatments and visits.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
Although Vice has become a bit of a hit and miss source of news these days. I applaud them for their coverage drug related news. Often highlighting key issues and problems many people might not have been aware of. Videos like this one are great for highlighting how our government continues to fail us as a nation!
@@stewstock6036 A good portion of vices content has become soft in order to cater to the masses compared to how like this video they used to produce high quality hard hitting news from drugs to warfare etc. Most of this is due to Vices growth as a company but still sucks to see to an extent.
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This is an obvious hit at the right. How is it a failure for the drug deaths to only increase by 2000 in a decade that is brillant. Look at any other country first world or not and it is probably triple that.
This wasn't unintended consciences. Conservatives see drug use, homelessness and poverty as a moral failing. If its a moral failing, if you die or bad things happen, its bc you deserved it.
Tories don't really have morals. They pretend they do. Their sole purpose is to take public funds from taxpayers and instead of spending it on initiatives that benefit the public, they give the money to themselves and their wealthy friends. That's it. There's a misconception that Tories take less money from taxpayers, but the opposite is true. They spend like mad, just not on anything that benefits the public. And they'll piss away money on ridiculous policies that do not work like the "war on drugs" just to *appear* to be tough on crime and garner votes.
I was in the system in the 90's and they helped me so much , I am now 51 and haven't taken drugs since 2004 and I would definitely not be here without those services
Well done. Like you, I had some much help during the 90s and got clean in 1999, and I have been clean since. If this had happened to me now, not sure if I would be alive today. The biggest drive in addiction has been austerity, I watched co many centres where addicts could go to get help closed down and pushed into city centres.
How's it going my advice is get reducing asap n plan on coming off n going onto blockers I've been on methadone 8 years n on more than when I started I pick up weekly n I'm stuck I feel like it's j7st as bad as gear I wish u all the best with your journey
What a difference tories make, the disabled, drug users, mental health, the nhs, they've attacked them all, if your not able bodied or mentally well your a target for the tories sound familiar it should do it happened in 30s germany they were known as nazis.
Kratom is very addictive too, but definitely less dangerous. I used it to get off pills but was soon spending the same amount of money on kratom. When I went to heroin, kratom just wasn’t strong enough to help anymore.
@@Alexacake19 it skips the protein in the brain that makes it harmful and addictive. It’s just as addictive as coffee, stop spreading misinformation. There’s a great Capitol Hill video addressing kratom and all the misinformation that’s passing around about it, might want to check it out if you’re going to try correcting people on the subject.
@@Alexacake19 only people who struggle with Kratom are polyaddicts who can’t stand to feel sober, or people who lack self control period. I’ve done Kratom for many years and the only people who abused it were the kind of people who freak out about not having their coffees or those who have an addictive personality to literally the smallest things
@@jakejake7162 dude I was addicted to kratom for 4 years. I’m not spreading misinformation. It causes physical and psychological withdrawal symptoms. Yes it’s better than heroin. But you can’t say that it’s not harmful at all. I had to wake up in the middle of the night to redose just so I could go back to sleep. the withdrawal symptoms are quite similar to H on a smaller scale. I’m just trying to let people know In case they have been told that kratom is a risk free alternative. It’s not.
Drives me crazy when a person with absolutely zero knowledge or experience in addiction and substance abuse adopts an iron-clad ideology and stubbornly rejects any real science, anecdotal evidence or treatment-based experience. Worse yet, decides to flip the entire system upside down creating chaos that they then twist to fit their fucked up narrative that they covet so much. Sorry, UK (as an American - Addict myself amidst the worst crisis our country has ever seen), I’ll be cheering for reform for all of you! ✊🏽
You realize most of the studies on addiction are skewed right? There isn't science, there is only marketing. America is 4% of the world population yet we use almost 90% of the world's opiates We have more than an epidemic going on
When you see Portugal treating addiction as a complete health issue, with money used to police it in the past going to rehab, training, housing support and what's happened is theyve had positive results. Why the uk and the usa knowingly carry on with this profit before people approach we will just have a bigger crisis.
Iain Duncan Smith has absolutely zero knowledge or experience in anything - he said he was on a mission from God to save the poor (he's apparently Catholic) and an estimated 130,000 people died as a result of the Conservative Party's austerity approach in the 2010s. The man was deemed too incompetent in the 2000s to run the Conservative Party, if you can imagine such a thing, and they put him in charge of social security because poor people dying is a feature not a bug.
@@navysteve95 I agree with half of what you said, but to say that there is no science-based evidence behind what I said is just ignorant. As The Joker said above me; look to Portugal and other countries that have alleviated strict drug policy and have instead chose to adopt drug reform for treatment and rehabilitation and the numbers speak for themselves. Which, is in and of itself, the science-based evidence that is pertinent to be looking at.
@@ajhc18 Oh my friend I am far from ignorant. Portugal is indeed worth Any scientific study will be determined by the way data is collected. Consider what Purdue was doing well. order to push a more addictive drug? They used Science
I work for one of these companies. I went in thinking I’d be helping people and quickly found out the only person I was helping was the CEO.. taking home 150k per year
The War on Drugs series is probably the best series Vice has. It's very unfortunate that the majority of politicians/law makers, do not have your best interests in mind.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
Here in the US our "recovery" industry is completely dominated by the abstinence based, faith based 12 Step approach and the results have been predictably terrible and deadly.
As an addict myself, abstinence sure would solve my problems😂 not sure what you’re going on about man, that 12 step program has been proven time and time again to be beneficial
@@WSFM_Rex The fact that you can say that with a straight face and place anecdotal experience over facts... No, no the 12 step program doesn't work. It just scares a few weak minded people into bragging about quitting.
@@WSFM_Rex it works for some, not for majority. Im one of those who didn't find any help from there, quite the contrary actually. I found my life and will to live trough suboxone and different harm reduction things. Slowly fixed my life and found help for my mental health etc while on suboxone.
@@WSFM_Rex As an addict myself here in the UK we also have certain areas that say the 12 step process is the way to go. I disagree fully it's a faith based process abit like a religion and Im not religious that actually set me up worse when I came out of treatment and I was using more than ever. I found my own way in the end and it had zero to do with the silly 12 step process. I've seen many others fail because of that system and lost a close friend who was shown that dumb process. I'm clean for 2 years now but I don't like the way the 12step process is the only option they try to make you go down in some of the rehabs.
@@ilarious5729 I totally agree with you dude. The 12 step faith process is like a religion it didn't help me at all quite the opposite. I found my own way in the end 2 years without now. But the 12 step process works for a tiny percentage as low as 5% from where I'm from. Countries like Switzerland in Europe don't use the 12 step process and have a much much higher rehab and recovery percentage as high as 1 in 3 people. Where as the 12 step you are lucky to get 1 in 10 or more.
@@Pllayer064 Seems to be An instituted form of narcissistic bullying of the poor disabled, sick anyone not contributing to their system of Big brother.
England needed a COMPLETE OVERHAULED its welfare system decade's ago. Too many people PARACITES on the way too generous system it was a complete joke. Junkies alcoholics people having God k ow how many kids. We are sick to death of paying for them all!!!
Drug addiction is a mental health issue. And with such limited UK resources on the NHS for this it's REALLY tough to get. It's STRONGLY linked to trauma. Being forced into 12 Step programmes like the NA is the pits. They are not a therapy, just talking at random to a group, with no one discussing with you any issues you have. I found my own recovery method and a year and a bit sober now. But really I'd love to get some therapy. The issue is we're all working. So finding therapists who work out of hours is tough.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
@@michelangelope830 I have no problem in believing that there are many addicts who lie. But that doesn't speak for me. When you're not poor and on a good salary, like many functioning addicts, you don't need to lie and steal to pay for your addiction. I'm sorry to say but I think your view of addicts is very stereotyped. And may apply to many but not all addicts.
@@jayjayn007 I can proof addiction is the psychology of a liar collapsing addiction rates when my theory is known. You can collaborate instead of complaining about the obvious truth.
@@michelangelope830 in my last point I explained why someone who was in a desperate situation (poverty) would lie and steal in order to facilitate drugs. Some people AREN'T in that situation and DON'T need to lie to anyone. When I was in my addiction phase I wouldn't see people for weeks. I WASN'T lying to anyone back then. Good luck with your theory, but I don't think it summarises every person who's suffered before from addiction.
@@jayjayn007 addicts don’t lie just to provide themselves with drugs as you very well know. Addicts are a living lie, they lie when they open their mouth and also when they are quiet. Why football players who are addicts like Maradona cheat?
I'm on methadone maintenance in Australia and I can say that because of this I've been able to focus on my healing process, and being able to be a good mother to my child. I've never had to score on the streets, or prostitute due to the desperation of wanting to feel better, normal. I know that if I was forced off this I don't know what my life would be, probably frought with deep desperation to feel well. Non addict's don't realise that there is always a reason why someone uses. Drug addiction is awful but with methadone maintenance I can live without the anguish. Drug addiction is the way we try as we might avoid the pain, and traumatized it's a desperate attempt to avoid despair and to avoid any traumatic memories of our past. This man has blood on his Hands.
Ignore the reply by Beaulieu C. I'm glad your life is back on track. The only thing I will say is that methadone is harder to come off than heroin, fentanyl, or any other opiate. People say it seeps into your bones. It doesn't, but it damn well feels like it because of the length of time you spend kicking it. Don't rush it, whatever you do. I think we all start using opiates because of pain (pysical, mental, psychological, emotional, whatever - and often in the past). Look after yourself (and your child).
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
@@Ukraineaissance2014 You're dead right there my man. We read loads of books about clucking off of heroin, but I've written a whole book about getting off methadone. It's finished and edited, I just need to teach myself how to format it in order to publish it. Then anyone will be able to get the lowdown on what it's really like. I'm glad it's worked for you. It's so underrated. The only problem is we've just brought upon ourselves a whole new set of problems. Depends how you look at it of course! All the best fella . . .
Agreed, never a good idea to take a drug that you will be instantly addicted to,will need to Rob,steal or do sex work in order to keep taking it, otherwise you will be violently Ill and then expect other people to save your life ,blame them for people dying?
Not to dismiss the physical and mental hazards of substance abuse and addiction, it would seem that drug prohibition and the war on drugs produces vastly more harm than the drugs themselves . I would further argue that the intolerance for for the substance user is a moral hazard of such importance that it’s myriad effects have ushered in an inevitable decline and collapse of America and the rest of the west .
@@Dan_1348 what like Thailand where there's like a death sentence for using alone? Still plenty of dope. You can't trust statistics from a poor country for whom image management is paramount.
@@Dan_1348 “ What do all of the countries with the lowest dug use have in common ?” - The Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism of The Collective , maybe ?
@@Dan_1348 In principle I am a staunch advocate for Freedom and Liberty. Drug prohibition and the war on drugs was a start of a slippery slope towards the eventual suppression of all free expressions of individuality. I could also argue that out of Financial and Logistical necessity Medicine and Medical services must be decentralized. I don’t think it is unreasonable to assert that we have this Covid -19 exactly because the war on drugs just isn’t ‘ inclusive ‘ enough .
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
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Recovering addict on methadone here , this literally makes me sick and anyone supporting these backward politicians should be punished as I was for having an addiction , the stigma is so real for me and every addict in recovery not just in my own country but around the world and we have become used to seeing the money and time from government put into treatment rarely effects the people in recovery in a positive way , I know in my country when you go to get help from a methadone clinic it’s like signing away your freedom and if some doctors think your “just using methadone as a way to not withdrawal when you can’t get a fix” they will kick you out of a program cold turkey , iv seen friends die like this and I hope in the future people who have never been negatively effected by drugs can have empathy for us and help us get change because the government never listened to ex addicts or those in recovery .
Please know that idiots like IDS (& all the other out-of-touch, entitled, spoilt pricks in the Tory Party...) and the tabloids don't speak for all of us. My heart goes out to you. Nobody wakes up one day and thinks "I'm going to become a drug addict!" - it's down to circumstance, substandard government services (such as poor/no access to mental health services, leaving people to self medicate to survive) &, often, really bad luck. I'm truly sorry that you found yourself in that position, but I congratulate you - sincerely and wholeheartedly - on your continued recovery. Fighting addiction takes all the things the naysayers don't have - strength, determination, kindness (often to yourself), self-reflection, and guts. I salute anyone fighting for a better tomorrow. Take care & stay strong x
I agree I live in Canada and it is like signing away your freedom.evem once I got my take home carries it's still a pain in the ass I can't travel I can't take certain medications the are over the counter.dam. I can't even eat at Arby's because of poppy seeds ffs.ntm alot of prescription medication from my family doctor I'm not allowed to take if I wanted my take home doses so stuck inside with crippling anxiety and unmedicated ADHD until I'm off this program.granted it did save my life but for as long as I've had them with no dirty tests you think they would ease up a bit
@@tabbathapearson1143 holy crap it sounds like you have the same clinic/doctor ido , it makes you terrified of getting injured or going in for minor surgeries because you know you won’t be getting proper pain meds too , and having a doctor who is able to get proper medication tell me that my dose atm of methadone should be more than enough for pain for a broken leg ? , you feel like snapping at someone who looks at you wrong in shoppers drug mart because you have to say out Loud that you “need your methadone or suboxone today please” iv had new pharmacists stop treating me with mutual respect after iv asked them for my dose before because of this stigma attached , not to mention I have to drive a city over to get my dose before work because my city’s 24 hour pharmacy wasn’t making enough money and kept getting robbed so they started closeing at night untill 8:00am and didn’t tell anyone so all the usual methadone and suboxone users showed up to a closed store and were all late for work that whole week untill we could switch are pharmacy lmfao , but your right it did save my life your right about that , and the fact that you wrote about having The same experiences as me makes me feel like I’m not 98% alone so thank you ! And I hope it gets better for you my friend
Yup 70mg daily for the past 6 years but down from 110mg daily from 2011...it's a friggin tight rope my friends. I want to do an ibogaine)Ayuhuasca ceremony but they're not on nhs nor do I have the cashola to go the jungle that's thousands I don't have the readies for....
@@sirdelmontecarloheadcase2004 wish you all the best ! , me and my mom always say I wish They invented a brain surgery to stop this addiction , who ever invents that is getting a Nobel prize forsure lmfao
Absolutely shocking, how did I not know about this. As a recovering addict I know where I’d end up if I was forced off my script. If it doesn’t affect them directly they don’t care what happens to the addict. As long as their stats look good they are happy.
@cdxx420able you dont understand how unecessarily difficult and painful it is to go cold turkey off opiates. Theres not much choice in that mindset and its just asking for relapse or worse like how withdrawals have caused suicides before. If maintenance is keeping people stable and also able to be productive like like having a stable career and family life. Also an effective method of preventing cravings and relapse, I don't think theres anything wrong with being on those medications. Its not like they provide any sort of high, they literally just keep the person well and keep withdrawals at bay.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
Abstinence for drugs or sex does not work. Evidence based policies are usually ignored by conservatives in the western world unless it can specifically be used for their party's or their own personal advantage.
@@EmperorPenguinXRemas ... that's not "the other end of the stick". It's the same stick. 🤦🏽♂️ Drug abuse is still treated as a criminal offence when it's a healthcare issue, black markets flourish, these people are not getting the rehabilitation they need and the organisations that are willing to volunteer have their hands tied behind their back. What a braindead take smh 👎🏽
After 10 years of heroin addiction, I have been clean for 3 years. I'm not on any maintenance. The only way I got where I am, was a lengthy jail sentence. It made me hate my poor decisions. There is no painless way out.
I think its insane how governments and the thought only a FEW have are making so many live by their rule. It is really sickening. I dont want anyone to do drugs or be addicted, but this is the world we live in and you CAN NOT tell others how to treat their OWN bodies. Makes me want to rage.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
Maintenance with opiod substitutes is meant to stabalize a person so they can deal with theIr issues that comes from years of drug use. The addict can also build up normal relationships, over come any anxieties and build self esteem and self confidence which got destroyed during addiction. These things can not be fixed in a short period of time. If you try to rush someone thru treatment they will just go back to what they know. This is not the army you can not order an addict to get clean... You need to show them a better way and how much they can still achieve in life, that normal life can be good without drugs and that they need to have a little faith in themselves and do not need to carry any shame. All the drug workers I know do amazing jobs and are really special people who don't get enough recognition. And by the way I am an (ex)addict so this is from experience.
Us taxpayers are sick to death of our hard earned taxes going to molly coddle these people they should be put to work in whatever menial job SO they don't have time to laze around with their druggie mates. At least now with the Introduction of Universal credit they can't just scrounge off disability support!!!
@@galegrazutis964 dude if someone is stable on a script there is no reason why they can't work. If they are not on a script they live a dysfunctional life so it is better for the tax payer for an addict to be on a script and being a productive member of society rather than being an anti social addict causing crime to fund a habit. Lot of People are on lifetime scripts for different and more expensive medications than methadone But your one of the small minded that thinks instead of helping addicts to achieve happier more productive lives(and in many cases pay for their own scripts once in work) we should write addicts off as lazy and not support them. Well says alot about you as using "costing the taxpayer" more on a script than off for an addict is an untruth and hides your narrow minded and uneducated views.
@@tonybutcher4550 l can see a point to what you are saying but l have been badly attacked by some who bashed me over the head and took my rings off my fingers by breaking them. So sympathy is somewhat lacking. All for them to get their next hit!
I would like to see these politicians experience first hand what it means to get off methadone or opioids in general. I know methadone was introduced in the 80's to basically lower the number of people dying from heroin overdose, but to deny methadone or subutex helped thousands of people getting their life back is simply crazy. Nothing wrong with maintenance therapy!
@cdxx420able wow that's a pretty cynical, cold hearted view of things. I feel sorry for anyone in your family that succumbs to the pain of addiction, and I guarantee someone close to you is suffering from some sort of addiction.
Would love to see one done on our NHS healthcare system. It's falling apart. Trelisk hospital in Truro has people in corridors and outside in lines of ambulances with members of the public delivering tea and coffee.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
Harm reduction programs work so much better than trying for immediate abstinence. There are still some states in the USA that don't have methadone programs 😕
@@stevehasbeenthere imo if somone can live their life on a maintenance dose I can't judge. If it lets you work, live, love and be happy while contributing to your community, I couldn't care less.
@@BoomBeench very very true but it’s just so hard still on your body man .. I think after a certain time if you have done the counselling and the work and the groups. I just don’t like people to think they have to be on it for life but your absolutely right and in some cases it’s completely needed !! I just want my brothers and sisters healthy too !! It’s been so hard on my teeth and body from the methadone too..
@@BoomBeench And who's paying to maintain their new drug addiction? Tax dollars. This isn't fixing the issue. This is getting ppl addicted to a new drug that big pharma controls. Big Pharma is their new drug dealer.
@@stevehasbeenthere sort of agree but there should be no time limit for recovery as long as your always moving forward, even if steps are small, its progress. And don't forget people have lapses so as long as they are trying to move forward and not taking to many steps backwards then it's all good imo.
I got surgery and was told to take aspirin and tylenol because they didn't want to risk giving me any opioids. I was appalled and was in so much pain for weeks, unsurprisingly over the counter drugs didn't stop it
I agree! I didn't need pain meds in my early 20s or teens but as I got older I started having bouts of chronic pain that was dismissed by doctors. Learning now it's not their fault the States aren't allowing them to treat their patients. Just like diabetics need their insulin chronic pain/drug addicts need their medicine so they can function in society and contribute to their community. We need more compassion but if their goal is to kill people off slowly this will surely make it possible. A safe drug is better than one off the streets. Some people really truly just want to feel better.
Yeah, its a complete knee-jerk system. I worked in the field for a minute after serving in the Navy for twenty years. In Pennsylvania the system is completely inept And the VA is just as bad
@@crystallicausi189 chronic pain is horrible, but opioid drugs have been proven to not work compared to placebo and they have been proven to cause addiction. Chronic pain sadly can't be treated with opioids, but maybe in the future we can see.
I moved to mandhester from london 3 years ago because I hated it there for many reasons - expensive, obnoxious, stressful. Anyway my first introduction to manchester was on the tram where I saw so many people on drugs. I tried moving to a decent area but there are people on drugs around. My job takes me around Manchester and it's a sad sight. There are people on all sorts of substances and alcohol everywhere. I realise that this is a nationwide problem. Its got completely out of hand, even if you escape to a middle class area, wherever you go it's a plague. Whatever the reasons for it, joblessness, single parent families, trauma. It's got to a point of national crises. Even if you ignore it by living in a nicer neighbourgood you inevitably run into it. In Switzerland they ran as programme in the 90s helping addicts. We need a programme here.
As someone who's 39 and been addicted to heroin and fentynl for 20 years now iv, Ive been on methadone 6 different times now and it hasn't worked for me because I got zero help overcoming the trauma and PTSD that fuels my addiction. Treatment is a joke in the USA. It is simply a cyclic revolving door situation used to bill insurance companies FOR THE MOST PART, there is some decent places but few. 99.5% of opiate users relapse in under 6 months with mostly relapsing within 1 day of release.. This says alot. We need legal injection of heroin programs. End of story.
There needs to be help in overcoming the trauma and PTSD which causes the dysfunction and addiction in the first place. Some support and help for families and children BEFORE their lives get to the point where drugs like heroin get you through your pain!
The whole US health care system is the shame of the "world's richest nation" ... Just because "social" sounds like "socialism" which is weasely communism and is proven a fuct up system because it was twisted out of all recognisable shape by Stalin and its successors... World history! Vocabulary! Eh? (I'm 55. Smack for 5 year starting aged 23, then methadone... injectable form in the uk from 94 to 2016 and now... oral. In a town in france where there's no smack and only M sulphate to inject which gives me an horrible reaction. I dream of needles every night
@@XpRnz i suppose a reduction of opiates with some steady intake of Mdma or mda alternated with mushrooms, and at the end of treatment some lsd as the cherry on the cake does seem like ... well... worthy of research, wouldn't you say? Let's find a grant for this immensely important project and a nice place in the country/mountains and one in a rockin' town where to work. (Where i am i can't find any decent samples of any psychedelics.... traaaagick )
I’m glad voice make mostly unbiased news articles and aren’t trying to push you a general thought/way of thinking by distracting you with mainstream media. My friend died last year from an OD and it was crazy to think he was part of that number. Although he wasn’t dependent on heroin, I feel as though there is a flaw within the UKs drug policy’s and a change needs to be made soon
One of the main failures of the UK drug treatment services, is that keyworkers don't have the time or the training to help people deal with their social issues. The worst thing for a newly clean user is cleaning up the mess their drug use has got them in. A lot of long term drug users have never had a proper job, don't have positive support systems and have undiagnosed mental health issues. When I was a senior drug worker, I had to beg my bosses to attend a university course that dealt with dual diagnosis clients. These are some of the most difficult people to reach, alot of them are homeless and deeply involved in crime. The course I wanted to attend was provided through the NHS and was for qualified nurses. It was a post graduate diploma in addiction studies and was focused on helping the exact people I was working with. In the end they let me take it (in my personal and holiday hours) and I passed, but then found I was not given enough time with clients to apply anything I'd learnt. I don't do the job anymore and moved into crisis intervention, working with people who are suicidal. It's a shame because they lose a lot of good staff, who are over worked and under paid. They are expected to work with some of the most vulnerable and damaged people in society, people who with the right help COULD tern their lives around. I still love working in the sector, there are a lot of charities, with a lot of dedicated staff that just get burnt out. In a perfect world we could do the job right first time , and stop the revolving door of seeing the same old faces... Unfortunately some are not that lucky, some people never get well and live a life worth fighting for, and when we have clients that don't make it, it stays with you for the longest time... 🤔😔 🙏Say Gouranga and be happy 🙏♥️
I have been in the NHS treatment programmes for almost 10 years. AWFUL. I finally got sober through AA and private medical treatment. It's a shocking system
For me some people are lost for a time, sometimes months sometimes decades, however keeping them of street drugs is the answer to helping them be alive to be one day saved.
I’ve worked in pharmacy for five years and never seen a single patient come off of methadone or buprenorphine. When asking colleagues with 20+ years experience, I’ve heard of only one patient successfully reducing and completely coming off of methadone. You rarely see a dose reduction either.
I guess I'm a freak then. I was on subutex for 8 years and after reducing by 2mgs a month for 9 months I've been off it for 4 years. That last 2mgs was the hardest but I stayed with family, ate healthy and was on the treadmill 3 times a day to sweat out what was in my system. In the beginning there was alot of 🤢 and pain like my bones were trying to jump out of my skin and restless legs but on the whole it was nowhere near as bad as withdrawal from other things. Afterwards I kept thinking to myself if I had known that it was possible I would have done it sooner.
I quit because I wanted to be free . I thought going on subs would free me from drugs but all I really did was trade one drug for another. And I had less freedom with subs then other drugs. I had to make sure I attended the chemist daily within set hours, I had to make sure I had my script every month on time. If I travelled anywhere I had to make sure either I booked in with a chemist in each town I went through or I had to try to get takeaways . I had to set my daily routine around a drug and while in the beginning that was fine . I actually had a ritual around it. Would place an order for a steak burger, go get my dose , collect my order ,buy a slushie and then eat my food at the park. After a cigarette I would go on with whatever else I had to do. The dose became the thing everything else revolved around. Carried on like that for so many wasted hours over so many years. It's chemical handcuffs.
I'm sorry I wrote so much but I felt the need to tell you there can be light at the end of the tunnel. A person just has to want more then being tied to a harsh taskmaster. Because IMO as soon as we touch any drug we are giving up our freedom. We become a slave essentially to our addictions , it calls (withdrawals/cravings) we come running . We sell our souls to the dealer. Nothing and no one should have that control.
All drugs should be legal. Atleast that gives way for treating the people that need it instead of only policing and causes the substances to be pure rather than diluted.
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The drug death rate per capita in Scotland is even worse. So sad to see, we need more compassion in this world. There will always be misery, poverty and addiction under capitalism. Iain Duncan Smith is also responsible for thousands of deaths of disabled people too.
I am ashamed to say that I voted conservative, and now I’d like to know if they have achieved anything at all while being in power this century. There must be something
@@bennathan7353 I think democrats have done way worse and sadly because I'm black my family tells me I have to align with liberal views. Even though they never do what they promise.
The sad thing is the blind hatred for heroine addicts when I lived in a youth hostel heroine addicts where bullied by dozens of people and the staff could not stop it so they are rejected and people advise you not to be friends with them in case you are guilty by association.
@melancholy I know this is late as I've only just come across your comment I hope and pray you stayed strong and got your script sorted theirs no way they should be able to leave you ill when you been doing so well trust me I know how hard staying clean is getting off it is the easy part compered to staying off it that's the real test and some doctors and drug workers seem to wanna make it harder I've had so many problems over the years with them but don't give up you have come to far i wish you the best
There’s a similar, related institutional callousness in psychiatric medication. Each round of attempts at new medication takes months to orchestrate through the NHS, and privately attained prescriptions can’t be automatically transferred. The system either leaves mental patients (often with concomitant addiction problems) for months without access to a new medication, or paying exorbitant prices privately.
Ive been on a treatment program for probably over 10 years. Every time i have tried to get off the support workers come up with a reason to keep me on and even increase my medication. They say things like I don't feel your ready or im concerned you'll relapse. Even after 2 years of clean tests im stuck on this rut. Trekking 4km round trip 3 days a week in rain sleet or snow. Every time i feel like i progress with a support worker, they leave or transfer to a different centre.soni have to have a new key worker and start over with everything. I am stable, settled, been uni, housed, in a relationship, clean for a few years, crime free for over a decade, attending appointments, doing weekly piss tests, i feel like every time i ask to reduce and aim to come off the programme they find a way to up my medication or say im not ready. My life is controlled by this medication and having to go to the chemist and appointments set times at 3 times a week. But people dont seem to want to hear from people who are in this system. Ive seen a lot and even more so when I was younger and had addiction issues and was in and out of the prison and hostel systems. Im doing the best i have ever done and its still not good enough to break free from my past. Im mid 30s and want to move on. Ive seen double figures of people and friends die in my area from drug use, i am not proud of my past but it has made me the person I am. I channel addiction into positive things, ive done countless courses, learnd IT and programming, run a tutoring community with over 8000 subscribers/followers on fb, my wife wants to start a family, its hard because this programme saved my life in a way all those years ago but long term i regret it. If I could have done a rehab thing it wouldn't have worked because addiction takes years sometimes after you stop taking stuff before mentally you are ready to move on from it. The hardest one was my best friend from school days, like a brother and he died from an overdose. Something clicked after that like I was taking life for granted
“There hasnt been a wave of super deadly new drugs coming to the market”... Well,as a lone example,I present Etizolam,or as its known “street valium”. Very cheap,and is featured in i think 1/3 drug deaths in scotland
Personally I think that someone who knows nothing about drugs and the effects they have on you,should have no say in how and what the laws are and what’s the best way to help addicts
They should make a think tank of successful (ex)addicts, who know what has worked for them and have the understanding needed, to advice these MPs, who don't understand addiction, but think they do.
Like Professor David Nutt? He was actually dismissed from his position of drug and addiction advisor to the government by a Labour MP though which goes to prove they are all just as fucking bad as each other.
Drug abuse will NEVER go away!!! It just won’t.. People will always like to take drugs!! But then before you realize that you even have an actual addition it’s already too late and it becomes a full blown part of everyday life. The only way most will stop is when they get sick and tired of being sick and tired.. Or if they OD. In either case the person will only stop when they themselves are truly ready!!.
Real. It hasn’t mattered for me, and won’t matter for my pals, despite the deep times we still held our jobs and promised to be better - it is a year on and you just won’t fucking change. Change is fully personal, I haven’t even fully done it and I know that !
I think drug use is directly related to the economy. Here in the states, people hit the hardest often turn to drugs. I hear it’s getting more and more expensive to exist in the UK too. We live in such a sad world 😢
I spoke to a senior psychologist who works closely with addiction/pain management & is a prescriber of alot of opiates. I asked him recently had he heard of or any information on the Project twenty21 & he had not heard anything about it! That imo shows where the focus is.
Thank you so much for covering this. This is a HUGE problem clients are dying due to the 3 rd sector underbidding for NHS contracts in drug treatment and mental health services. While the “charity” corporations that get these contracts are making a lot of money. I wish I could communicate to the younger folks just how damaging the Conservative Party has been to the U.K, we have lost what used to be taken for granted , for example free university education, NHS covered free dental and free eye care, the fair and regulated home rental office and inspectorate that capped rent inspected the standard and kept rent at a fair and affordable level, due to the abolishment of this, families and those who are disabled must use their disability benefits such as mobility and care for rent and food due to uncapped high rents to stave of homelessness. Loss of humane temporary housing, total loss of housing benefit for the young, falling housing benefits for low income families, zero regulation of the housing market with gentrification making multitudes of families homeless. Conglomerates buying up swathes of property as investments making living as a middle income family impossible in the South of England . There are tiny amount of “affordable” council properties for those that earn less, they are not that affordable very hard to get and tend to be rabbit hutches that do not resemble a home. The Conservatives have destroyed social care programs whether for children, drug treatment or mental health all have been defunded and very limited conditional help only, due to services being put out to 3rd party underbidding very few psychiatric nurses left or youth workers or community centres, programs for young or marginalised people have been decimated.The stigmatisation of foreigners, the disabled and the poor and the elderly that have been left to die alone or in hospitals, due to cuts in social care, I used to have a sense of pride being British but now I feel ashamed, so dismayed and people do not see it because it is hidden by technocratic jargon and much of it is done by stealth. To the young try to fight for your rights as a citizen do not let them take anymore from us. If they can they will take what little is left and have us fight each other for the crumbs. As Boris said Why don’t we feed the people to the animals.
Ian Duncan Smith was more concerned about his wallet than treating anybody with any addiction. But would he feel the same if it was one of his family or his children... Absolutely not not not not not not not... Sorry i may have to stop saying the word NOT as i maybe addicted to it.
That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I have known quite a few people over the yrs. The most used routes are reduction to a low dose (10-20mls) methadone then swap to subutex which can be reduced to almost nothing(0.4) ml tablets I think or low dose of meth then withdrawl detox in a clinical environment. I know alot of people who have detoxed in prison then just gone back to using when they get out as they never worked on the issues or causes of the addiction while in Prison and never had the right support on release. Unfortunately there is no easy way or Highly effective way to detox and many people have many attempts at recovery before success.
@@tonybutcher4550 I've seen massive cuts to services and detox beds, but not taken off methadone. They might reduce someone on 100+ mg especially if they're taking other depressants like alcohol or valium. Methadone is dirt cheap, cheaper than subutex by far. Yet they are incentivised to swop people to subutex which doesn't make sense financially, but does in terms of functionality and safety. The whole system -every system/institution- in this country is totally inefficient
Politics = the elite doing business, and not in the interest of the greater good as we're meant to believe. I would be very surprised if anyone was simply taken off methadone or forced off it against their will unless they've missed more than 3 consecutive days pick up, which in that case they do. Infact I think that's against human rights. In the early 2000's prisoners were allowed to take methadone if they was prescribed it on the street. That come about because of a ruling from the European Court of human rights that stated you are allowed the same healthcare in prison as outside. So personally I think its media BS
@@kinny369 I just realised you meant someone being kicked off their script. Sorry been one of those days lol. But to be honest I can't remember seeing/knowing anyone kicked off their script unless they haven't been to pick up 3 days in a row. Even when they keep using on top there is no threat to their script. I thought you meant you never seen anyone come off their script sorry. And yeah the whole subject is sometimes politicised for peoples agendas. Which doesn't help.
I personally know people who have been on methadone for years and it’s helped them lead a somewhat normal life with job family etc. Addiction is an illness and if it needs treating for 6 months or 6 years so be it.
I remember this time. My drug agency basically told people who were using would have their meth methadone stop. I started on my maintenance script since 98, when I was 18. Im 43, and have been heroin free for 3 years. Im still on methadone but have dropped from 120ml to 19ml. Im alive because of harm reduction. Im reasonably healthy, no blood borne viruses. I have a life now and looking forward to getting off my methadone.
@@patkearney9320 Thank you. Im a big fan of Irish music. I love the Scratch, Mr Irish Bastard, Sir Reg. You guys really have some awesome musicians. Music really helped my recovery tbh. Much better than drugs.
Another example of how detached from reality our politicians are. We need serious reform in this country if these issues are ever going to get resolved.
I'm American, and I've always looked at European drug attitudes as progressive and US attitudes as regressive. However over the last 10 years the attitudes seemed to have flipped in some Euro countries such as the UK, which is sad to see. I am on methadone and have been for 5 years. I hate when people compare it to heroin, its nowhere near the same... it has literally saved my life and it makes me cringe that some people might not get that help because of idiots who don't understand addiction and methadone maintenance.
Im still in the system. In 2011 Turning point began a horizon scheme. Never been sectioned before -or since- but I went nuts with a reduction I couldn't handle. A good key worker took charge and got my'script back. I am still there but at the lowest level of meth for 10 years. Maybe I'll never be free but I am working and have a semblance of a life. If my 'script was taken away 2mo I would like to think that I would tough it out. I doubt it would be like that. M'done costs nothing and when you work you pay for it! Its a good political football: Immigrants, jobless and the junkies. If we sort this out we will be great again. It comes from the old playbook. Sad.
So you're telling me after 11 years the program is working? lmao clearly not working if you're still an addict. You're just addicted to the "scripts" now and the government is your new dealer.
@@AC-vs9kq you don't have a clue about treatment or addiction recovery then do you fella. Everybody's recovery is different and have different issues to solve. Educate yourself.
@Jack Deedman keep making steps forward brother, no matter how big or small, just keep on that journey to recovery and ignore the uneducated who have a lot of opinions but absolutely no clue.
@@tonybutcher4550 go on and keep calling 10 years of addiction to "scripts" recovery... clearly they're still and addicit.. just of a different drug now. Problem solved I guess..
@@AC-vs9kq you not heard the saying once an addict always an addict lol. I am 20 yrs clean and I am still an addict. Not a day goes by I don't think about my past drug use and I have never seen the world the same since that first use. This is not the army, you cannot order people to get clean... Instead you show them a better way to live, build their self esteem and self confidence, deal with the shame and guilt, deal with the issues that lead to that addiction. And that takes time and alot of councilling. People have different things going on so every recovery is different and takes different amount of time but I don't think you ever recover truly. As for swapping one drug for another that's bullshit they are both opiods, the difference is methadone is easier to reduce on and is safer. It also stabilises the addict so the can get. Back into work while working on there recovery. As long as they keep moving forwards the timescale is irrelevant. To get a person who has become an addict and is at their lowest and has nothing, family has disowned them and they hate themselve, to the point of living a normal, happy and productive life can take many years even 20+ so your comments show your ignorance
I can tell you why drug related deaths are on the rise in the UK. The working class and their communities where destroyed, industry closed, factories shut, mines shut, the high street boarded up. The areas where this all existed where then left with nothing. No regeneration, no investment, no retraining, nothing. Communities then started to fracture, traditions started to slip, respect and pride seemed pointless as there was nothing to feel respect for or pride in. These wasteland areas of the uk had nothing but booze and boredom. The people became angry, they wanted fun or to fight. This situation was then the perfect breading ground for the drug business. Globalisation was what we were offered, fast, cheaper but we were never told how much it would really cost the UK. Gone are the ship yards, the steel works, the aerospace, the automotive, the mines, engineering, cotton mills, exports. Hello to reality tv, bargain booze, multiculturalism, inflation, unaffordable housing, street crime, homelessness, the breakdown of the family structure, the list goes on.
In my time it was the opposite they would keep you on methadone for ages with no soul work and whenever you asked to lower the amount they would question you heavily .
I personally saw how well the use of methadone helped people regain control of their lives and lead them to having a happy and productive lives. It's mind boggling that a system which, while not perfect, was hugely beneficial for so many. IDS is responsible for so much evil in the UK, I hope history judges him accordingly. I used to work for a charity, so I've seen this bidding process first. The whole race to the bottom thing is exactly right, but it's not just service users who face difficulties because of this. The poor, usually badly paid, staff hear the brunt of the service used anger and frustration as well as crippling work loads.
It's same like other illness treatment, like cancer and AIDS...same results Giving intensive information and reality of addiction to every teenager is more important than anything else!!
There’s definitely a difference between using and abusing drugs. I think that for some who abuses substances, total abstinence from all substances should be the goal. But I don’t think you can force it to happen. I believe the government should incentivize them to get clean. But if methadone keeps them alive and allows them to be able to participate in society, then that sounds like a pretty good start point, even if it ends up being the start and end point for some.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
Treatment providers, be they third sector or NHS trusts are typically given three year tenders for a region/county at a time. Usually the pricing for each new tender is reduced with increasingly demanding KPI's. Just the fact that every 3 years service delivery is changed to a different provider, often using different pathways, usually takes at least a year to bed in with staff and is always disruptive to the well being of service users. Ian Duncan Smith is a Dickensian villian, shame on him, his supporters and the fools who vote for his party and it's policies!
Thanks for all the links in the description, I do watch the channel aswell, the content is fab, real life and topics that are going on in the world right now, greatstuff, a good documentary above, a real eye opener, maybe the people outhere can see that addiction doesn't discriminate, from people who have bad mental health, people who have been abused as kids/tough upbringing, self medication, peerpressure or even just because you may wanted to try them, not realising the longterm damage it causes, in my opinion there is not a lot of funding from the government every year
For the service, aswell as people doing jobs in these centres a lot of them are not great, a lot of them do be in recovery but think what worked for them should work for everyone else, not realising the best approach is person centred, especially with the way an addicts brain is wired totally different from the normal Joe Soap
@know Nothing I've been around 30 addicts my life : 10 went cold turkey and went on to live productive lives,10 others are DEAD,and the other 10 are still using. An addict can be any of these 3 groups if they want it bad enough..
God save me from people trying to save me!!!! I’ve been on methadone for pain for several years, and I live in constant fear that they’re going to try to detox me because of some stupid trend in politics.
Drug treatment centers only made me a worse addict I went to some of the nicest ones in Orange county to the tippy top of Hollywood hills with private chefs and your own pool on in your lil backyard area and it was so fucked up all about that insurance pay out that they wanted and worked around sure they had the tools to help but about 75% of patients ended up relapsing and going out to doing drugs again for months and then back into another rehab a vicious cycle. What really helped to get me clean was honestly moving away from the city to the mountains and living a whole new fresh life away from drugs and your friends.
My recent worker said he had 75 clients before he...and basically all of them leave after a few months - just when they know your story and are in a position to help. V frustrating! Iv watched a lot of your documentaries and this effected me the most - becaue it is basically my failure story over the past 16-17 years of my life. What a watse
I know you commented a while ago but wanted to say I know exactly where you're coming from I've had so many different workers way to many to count most of them can't cope with the job ain't got a clue or use the job as a stepping stone to move up and then they expect you to trust and tell your life story to yet a another worker when you know the same thing gonna happen again and now without a worker you can't get a script so they give you no choice its a joke and its only getting worse and now anyone can get a script and abuse it years ago if you used on top you lost your script not now you use on top much as you like so for the people who really want to get and stay clean their not getting the help they should. hope your doing well mate best of luck to you stay strong
I started taking cocaine since my teenage, spent my whole life fighting cocaine addiction. Also suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. This is something that really need to be used globally for treatment of certain health challenges.
It is actually so crazy to think that politics have to a right to police healthcare and that parties can use healthcare as selling point. Healthcare should not be allowed to be used in politics. It should be a completely different entity and is only allowed to be run by evidenced based science.
I wish everything was ran through evidence based science
It's crazy that the drugs are made and distributed by unregulated criminal gangs.
Unfortunately evidence based science can also be influenced by money and power. Like how the sugar industry did before.
@@maskless1087 tbth no your wrong, the gov is majourly involved in importation\making & selling said drug's ,trust someone who has grown up & dominated the scene ,who's spent the majority of my life in the upper echolon of organised crime syndicates ,who's worked for the mob,bike gang's, cartel's, who learnt & earnt my way to the top,or don't,it's up 2 you
The issue with that is evidence is funded by the very industriers that profit off of it. So for instance multiple chemical sensitivity is medication and treatment resistant, removal of substances is the only treatment, so a lack of funding has led to nearly no study of it. Actually industries have had good reason to prevent studies one such industry is that is known to dabble in prevention of these studies is the petroleum industry. Many petroleum based products are listed among the leading substances that cause symptoms for people with MCS. Canada only declared MCS an official disability in 2017 even though MCS was first documented in 1956. Canada is one of the few countries to run studies and that was because it was costing the government a lot of money not being able to get us back to work / making us cost the government less money. Basically, it's always going to be about money and because of that evidence based science is bias in and of itself as the funding is bias. It will be bias towards the industries and organizations which are the most wealthy.
What angers me about this is not just that they did this. But that they did this fully knowing it was gonna go this way.
The deaths are the point, the cruelty is the point.
*the cruelty is the point*
amen. saying it louder for those in the back.
Yes, but they saved a lot of money. You know, the imaginary thing that's created out of thin air?
@@mjstecyk Exactly!
@@mjstecyk oh, that thing they print on paper when they hit the budget deficit by spending it all on irrelevant things?
@@mjstecyk just imagine the amount saved by ending the unjust and counterproductive "war on drugs".
I was a home detox nurse for many years, Addaction won the contract from the NHS, we don’t have a home detox service any more, drug related deaths have rocketed. No one wants to have an addiction problem, it doesn’t make a person bad. In my experience it usually comes from self medicating the pain of childhood trauma xxx sending love to anyone affected by our ignorant politicians xxx
You understand the "problem" perfectly Samantha. Like you say, no one wants to be an addict, and you certainly got it right when you mentioned childhood trauma - because it never goes away, and the weirdest thing of all is recognising all the symptoms, but feeling impotent as an adult to do anything whatsoever to deal with them, or even ameliorate/diminish their effects on you. An unhappy and chaotic or destructive childhood ends up being a life sentence. I think dependence for a lot of people becomes something that one feels that one has a handle on (yeah, 'cause I can deal with that when the time comes); the trouble is, it can be put off, or put on the back burner indefinitely, or thereabouts, while the affected person deals with the simpler things in life: like simply surviving till the next day. "The easy way out" also becomes a kind of safety net. A last resort which one knows one can face with ease and courage if that's what it comes to. You're definitely in the right place to influence people in their influential positions.
It's those people on long term maintenance scripts and opioid medication that end up the creek without a paddle, because the war on drugs has become a war on pain sufferers. Government policies mean they end up stuck between a rock and a hard place. Inadequate analgesia, but it's better than nothing, no?
I'm sorry you can no longer do your job properly. People like you and I need to organise in order to start educating the policy-makers, because they're like prisoners of their own making and ignorance - captives entirely lost and stumbling around in the dark.
I bet you're one of the voices of reason where you work, and someone other people listen to and take notice of, no?
Thank you for doing the hard work and often under-appreciated and misunderstood work that you do. There was a time when I could well have been one of your patients!
@@jonniebyford thank you kind sir, do you think that for some people, opiates enable them to keep living? I don’t know how old you are , for me, the passing of time has helped x
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
@@michelangelope830 mate shut up. Commenting this bollocks on everyone’s comments. 😂😂
I know but a lot of us just liked to get high, I’m on Naltrexone now and know plenty of people that use the childhood trauma thing as a way to justify there addiction to themselves, I had it all with detox nurses trying to find out why I was a gear addict and plenty would not accept I just loved drugs and getting messed up with a few suggesting I had repressed trauma……..NO I liked getting high, I still like going out getting smashed in the pub and having a few lines at weekends then back to normal life on Monday.
I’ve had issues with alcohol in my time. NHS treatment is delivered slowly. It takes time to get an appointment. You then have a month or two of hoops to jump through with talking to various people, keeping drinking diaries - all before actually getting any treatment. I simply disengaged rather than wait for getting a prescription. I was left to get medication via less conventional means. An addict who has a moment of strength to seek treatment needs it NOW, not in two months time. Goodness knows how bad it is for a heroin addict to be failed by the system in this way.
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your GP should have forwarded you onto such services like CGL in your local area so that you could engage with treatment straight away...
Ollie no beds
That’s an unavoidable side effect of socialized healthcare. There’s always going to be waitlists and time before you can get in anywhere because everyone has healthcare so more people going in for medical treatments and visits.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
Although Vice has become a bit of a hit and miss source of news these days. I applaud them for their coverage drug related news. Often highlighting key issues and problems many people might not have been aware of. Videos like this one are great for highlighting how our government continues to fail us as a nation!
How has it become hit or miss?
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@@stewstock6036 A good portion of vices content has become soft in order to cater to the masses compared to how like this video they used to produce high quality hard hitting news from drugs to warfare etc. Most of this is due to Vices growth as a company but still sucks to see to an extent.
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This is an obvious hit at the right. How is it a failure for the drug deaths to only increase by 2000 in a decade that is brillant. Look at any other country first world or not and it is probably triple that.
As always "we would like to congratulate drugs for winning the war on drugs".
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@@mikehill9647 …how is that relevant lol
This wasn't unintended consciences. Conservatives see drug use, homelessness and poverty as a moral failing. If its a moral failing, if you die or bad things happen, its bc you deserved it.
It is a moral failing.
That’s cause it is. No one likes junkies.
+Morning Star no one likes petty assholes either..
Tories don't really have morals. They pretend they do. Their sole purpose is to take public funds from taxpayers and instead of spending it on initiatives that benefit the public, they give the money to themselves and their wealthy friends. That's it. There's a misconception that Tories take less money from taxpayers, but the opposite is true. They spend like mad, just not on anything that benefits the public. And they'll piss away money on ridiculous policies that do not work like the "war on drugs" just to *appear* to be tough on crime and garner votes.
@@bradleypenrith if you think that, you are far off reality
I was in the system in the 90's and they helped me so much , I am now 51 and haven't taken drugs since 2004 and I would definitely not be here without those services
How did you stop??
Congratulations bro
yes, congrats, stay well . . be strong
Well done. Like you, I had some much help during the 90s and got clean in 1999, and I have been clean since. If this had happened to me now, not sure if I would be alive today.
The biggest drive in addiction has been austerity, I watched co many centres where addicts could go to get help closed down and pushed into city centres.
This breaks my heart as someone who is currently in a methadone program and my life is great.
Jus wait. They r liquid handcuffs. Get Suboxone
@@dmo848 better yet, buvidol or sublocade monthly depot injections. Makes things much easier taking away the worry of having to dose everyday.
How's it going my advice is get reducing asap n plan on coming off n going onto blockers I've been on methadone 8 years n on more than when I started I pick up weekly n I'm stuck I feel like it's j7st as bad as gear I wish u all the best with your journey
Why not do your rattle like everybody else@
@@michaelhyland7191 everyone else lol I don't no many who do cold turkey rattles my G I'm on methadone n I h8 it
I remember when the UK's rehab system was *so good* that rich Americans went there for treatment.
What a difference time makes.
@@youra6748 no one would tap you even if they got payed
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U bit the conservative bug. We all done it before. My country also drank retard juice (conservatism) and now we borderline sub Saharan Africa.
@@xxxdieselyyy2 what country?
What a difference tories make, the disabled, drug users, mental health, the nhs, they've attacked them all, if your not able bodied or mentally well your a target for the tories sound familiar it should do it happened in 30s germany they were known as nazis.
They also banned Kratom. Kratom helped many opioid addicts to get clean and is much much less dangerous.
I had to look this up, never heard of it before. Seems like it would be a good substitute for opiates.
Kratom is very addictive too, but definitely less dangerous. I used it to get off pills but was soon spending the same amount of money on kratom. When I went to heroin, kratom just wasn’t strong enough to help anymore.
@@Alexacake19 it skips the protein in the brain that makes it harmful and addictive. It’s just as addictive as coffee, stop spreading misinformation. There’s a great Capitol Hill video addressing kratom and all the misinformation that’s passing around about it, might want to check it out if you’re going to try correcting people on the subject.
@@Alexacake19 only people who struggle with Kratom are polyaddicts who can’t stand to feel sober, or people who lack self control period. I’ve done Kratom for many years and the only people who abused it were the kind of people who freak out about not having their coffees or those who have an addictive personality to literally the smallest things
@@jakejake7162 dude I was addicted to kratom for 4 years. I’m not spreading misinformation. It causes physical and psychological withdrawal symptoms. Yes it’s better than heroin. But you can’t say that it’s not harmful at all. I had to wake up in the middle of the night to redose just so I could go back to sleep. the withdrawal symptoms are quite similar to H on a smaller scale. I’m just trying to let people know In case they have been told that kratom is a risk free alternative. It’s not.
Drives me crazy when a person with absolutely zero knowledge or experience in addiction and substance abuse adopts an iron-clad ideology and stubbornly rejects any real science, anecdotal evidence or treatment-based experience. Worse yet, decides to flip the entire system upside down creating chaos that they then twist to fit their fucked up narrative that they covet so much. Sorry, UK (as an American - Addict myself amidst the worst crisis our country has ever seen), I’ll be cheering for reform for all of you! ✊🏽
You realize most of the studies on addiction are skewed right?
There isn't science, there is only marketing. America is 4% of the world population yet we use almost 90% of the world's opiates
We have more than an epidemic going on
When you see Portugal treating addiction as a complete health issue, with money used to police it in the past going to rehab, training, housing support and what's happened is theyve had positive results. Why the uk and the usa knowingly carry on with this profit before people approach we will just have a bigger crisis.
Iain Duncan Smith has absolutely zero knowledge or experience in anything - he said he was on a mission from God to save the poor (he's apparently Catholic) and an estimated 130,000 people died as a result of the Conservative Party's austerity approach in the 2010s. The man was deemed too incompetent in the 2000s to run the Conservative Party, if you can imagine such a thing, and they put him in charge of social security because poor people dying is a feature not a bug.
@@navysteve95 I agree with half of what you said, but to say that there is no science-based evidence behind what I said is just ignorant. As The Joker said above me; look to Portugal and other countries that have alleviated strict drug policy and have instead chose to adopt drug reform for treatment and rehabilitation and the numbers speak for themselves. Which, is in and of itself, the science-based evidence that is pertinent to be looking at.
@@ajhc18 Oh my friend I am far from ignorant.
Portugal is indeed worth
Any scientific study will be determined by the way data is collected.
Consider what Purdue was doing well. order to push a more addictive drug?
They used Science
I work for one of these companies. I went in thinking I’d be helping people and quickly found out the only person I was helping was the CEO.. taking home 150k per year
150k p/y is nothing for someone who runs and presumably started the entire company
The War on Drugs series is probably the best series Vice has. It's very unfortunate that the majority of politicians/law makers, do not have your best interests in mind.
I recently came to the conclusion, that basically, war crimes, are very common in our everyday life..
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
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Here in the US our "recovery" industry is completely dominated by the abstinence based, faith based 12 Step approach and the results have been predictably terrible and deadly.
As an addict myself, abstinence sure would solve my problems😂 not sure what you’re going on about man, that 12 step program has been proven time and time again to be beneficial
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The fact that you can say that with a straight face and place anecdotal experience over facts... No, no the 12 step program doesn't work. It just scares a few weak minded people into bragging about quitting.
@@WSFM_Rex it works for some, not for majority. Im one of those who didn't find any help from there, quite the contrary actually. I found my life and will to live trough suboxone and different harm reduction things. Slowly fixed my life and found help for my mental health etc while on suboxone.
@@WSFM_Rex As an addict myself here in the UK we also have certain areas that say the 12 step process is the way to go. I disagree fully it's a faith based process abit like a religion and Im not religious that actually set me up worse when I came out of treatment and I was using more than ever. I found my own way in the end and it had zero to do with the silly 12 step process. I've seen many others fail because of that system and lost a close friend who was shown that dumb process. I'm clean for 2 years now but I don't like the way the 12step process is the only option they try to make you go down in some of the rehabs.
@@ilarious5729 I totally agree with you dude. The 12 step faith process is like a religion it didn't help me at all quite the opposite. I found my own way in the end 2 years without now. But the 12 step process works for a tiny percentage as low as 5% from where I'm from. Countries like Switzerland in Europe don't use the 12 step process and have a much much higher rehab and recovery percentage as high as 1 in 3 people. Where as the 12 step you are lucky to get 1 in 10 or more.
Ahh the same old chap who announced benefit cuts that also lead to mass suicides. Anyone noticing a pattern here?
If you aren’t rich, then the tories will find anyway possible to indirectly killing you 🤔
Conservatives don't believe in helping, they believe in punishment. Cruelty is the point.
@@Andrew-ob5ij Slowly and as miserably as possible, from what I've noticed.
@@Pllayer064 Seems to be An instituted form of narcissistic bullying of the poor disabled, sick anyone not contributing to their system of Big brother.
England needed a COMPLETE OVERHAULED its welfare system decade's ago. Too many people PARACITES on the way too generous system it was a complete joke. Junkies alcoholics people having God k ow how many kids. We are sick to death of paying for them all!!!
Drug addiction is a mental health issue. And with such limited UK resources on the NHS for this it's REALLY tough to get. It's STRONGLY linked to trauma. Being forced into 12 Step programmes like the NA is the pits. They are not a therapy, just talking at random to a group, with no one discussing with you any issues you have. I found my own recovery method and a year and a bit sober now. But really I'd love to get some therapy. The issue is we're all working. So finding therapists who work out of hours is tough.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
@@michelangelope830 I have no problem in believing that there are many addicts who lie. But that doesn't speak for me. When you're not poor and on a good salary, like many functioning addicts, you don't need to lie and steal to pay for your addiction. I'm sorry to say but I think your view of addicts is very stereotyped. And may apply to many but not all addicts.
@@jayjayn007 I can proof addiction is the psychology of a liar collapsing addiction rates when my theory is known. You can collaborate instead of complaining about the obvious truth.
@@michelangelope830 in my last point I explained why someone who was in a desperate situation (poverty) would lie and steal in order to facilitate drugs. Some people AREN'T in that situation and DON'T need to lie to anyone. When I was in my addiction phase I wouldn't see people for weeks. I WASN'T lying to anyone back then. Good luck with your theory, but I don't think it summarises every person who's suffered before from addiction.
@@jayjayn007 addicts don’t lie just to provide themselves with drugs as you very well know. Addicts are a living lie, they lie when they open their mouth and also when they are quiet. Why football players who are addicts like Maradona cheat?
I'm on methadone maintenance in Australia and I can say that because of this I've been able to focus on my healing process, and being able to be a good mother to my child. I've never had to score on the streets, or prostitute due to the desperation of wanting to feel better, normal. I know that if I was forced off this I don't know what my life would be, probably frought with deep desperation to feel well. Non addict's don't realise that there is always a reason why someone uses. Drug addiction is awful but with methadone maintenance I can live without the anguish. Drug addiction is the way we try as we might avoid the pain, and traumatized it's a desperate attempt to avoid despair and to avoid any traumatic memories of our past. This man has blood on his Hands.
You made a lifestyle choice.
Ignore the reply by Beaulieu C. I'm glad your life is back on track. The only thing I will say is that methadone is harder to come off than heroin, fentanyl, or any other opiate. People say it seeps into your bones. It doesn't, but it damn well feels like it because of the length of time you spend kicking it. Don't rush it, whatever you do. I think we all start using opiates because of pain (pysical, mental, psychological, emotional, whatever - and often in the past). Look after yourself (and your child).
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
Yep we dont hear enough about the success of methadone. Its saved my life over and over again, kept me in work and a home.
@@Ukraineaissance2014 You're dead right there my man. We read loads of books about clucking off of heroin, but I've written a whole book about getting off methadone. It's finished and edited, I just need to teach myself how to format it in order to publish it. Then anyone will be able to get the lowdown on what it's really like. I'm glad it's worked for you. It's so underrated. The only problem is we've just brought upon ourselves a whole new set of problems. Depends how you look at it of course! All the best fella . . .
I don’t know how Iain Duncan Smith sleeps at night. The misery he has caused not only with this but also universal credit
I’m sure he pays a doctor for benzos.
I'm sure he sleeps just fine. Probably enjoys the deaths. He's a conservative
How about don’t do drugs rather then blame everyone but yourself for addiction
@@bendover2865 drug addiction is complicated but it’s sounds like you’re a doctor.
Agreed, never a good idea to take a drug that you will be instantly addicted to,will need to Rob,steal or do sex work in order to keep taking it, otherwise you will be violently Ill and then expect other people to save your life ,blame them for people dying?
Not to dismiss the physical and mental hazards of substance abuse and addiction, it would seem that drug prohibition and the war on drugs produces vastly more harm than the drugs themselves . I would further argue that the intolerance for for the substance user is a moral hazard of such importance that it’s myriad effects have ushered in an inevitable decline and collapse of America and the rest of the west .
All true!!
@@Dan_1348 what like Thailand where there's like a death sentence for using alone? Still plenty of dope. You can't trust statistics from a poor country for whom image management is paramount.
@@Dan_1348 “ What do all of the countries with the lowest dug use have in common ?” - The Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism of The Collective , maybe ?
@@Dan_1348 In principle I am a staunch advocate for Freedom and Liberty. Drug prohibition and the war on drugs was a start of a slippery slope towards the eventual suppression of all free expressions of individuality. I could also argue that out of Financial and Logistical necessity Medicine and Medical services must be decentralized. I don’t think it is unreasonable to assert that we have this Covid -19 exactly because the war on drugs just isn’t ‘ inclusive ‘ enough .
I’m a former opioid addict, this is all true and A/the rehab industry is part of the problem
Remember kids, if a stranger tries to give u drugs, say yes, because they're expensive
Haha an then sell them to someone who's been taken off them. But remember kids Just say NO COMMENT!- if you get caught
Pog
@@kinny369 and use that money to buy some bud
* When someone offers you drugs, you say *thank you*
Because drugs are expensive.
There, fixed it for you.
@@rebella_alld5108 Yes, so u edited ur comment, i see 😎
I am very grateful for this series and it makes complete sense! Thanks to the team at Vice for spreading awareness about this growing problem.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
I think I saw you when I was watching this video about india. What's the name of the temple you work at? ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=india+rat+temple
Lies again? Drugs Guns
Recovering addict on methadone here , this literally makes me sick and anyone supporting these backward politicians should be punished as I was for having an addiction , the stigma is so real for me and every addict in recovery not just in my own country but around the world and we have become used to seeing the money and time from government put into treatment rarely effects the people in recovery in a positive way , I know in my country when you go to get help from a methadone clinic it’s like signing away your freedom and if some doctors think your “just using methadone as a way to not withdrawal when you can’t get a fix” they will kick you out of a program cold turkey , iv seen friends die like this and I hope in the future people who have never been negatively effected by drugs can have empathy for us and help us get change because the government never listened to ex addicts or those in recovery .
Please know that idiots like IDS (& all the other out-of-touch, entitled, spoilt pricks in the Tory Party...) and the tabloids don't speak for all of us. My heart goes out to you. Nobody wakes up one day and thinks "I'm going to become a drug addict!" - it's down to circumstance, substandard government services (such as poor/no access to mental health services, leaving people to self medicate to survive) &, often, really bad luck.
I'm truly sorry that you found yourself in that position, but I congratulate you - sincerely and wholeheartedly - on your continued recovery. Fighting addiction takes all the things the naysayers don't have - strength, determination, kindness (often to yourself), self-reflection, and guts. I salute anyone fighting for a better tomorrow.
Take care & stay strong x
I agree I live in Canada and it is like signing away your freedom.evem once I got my take home carries it's still a pain in the ass I can't travel I can't take certain medications the are over the counter.dam. I can't even eat at Arby's because of poppy seeds ffs.ntm alot of prescription medication from my family doctor I'm not allowed to take if I wanted my take home doses so stuck inside with crippling anxiety and unmedicated ADHD until I'm off this program.granted it did save my life but for as long as I've had them with no dirty tests you think they would ease up a bit
@@tabbathapearson1143 holy crap it sounds like you have the same clinic/doctor ido , it makes you terrified of getting injured or going in for minor surgeries because you know you won’t be getting proper pain meds too , and having a doctor who is able to get proper medication tell me that my dose atm of methadone should be more than enough for pain for a broken leg ? , you feel like snapping at someone who looks at you wrong in shoppers drug mart because you have to say out Loud that you “need your methadone or suboxone today please” iv had new pharmacists stop treating me with mutual respect after iv asked them for my dose before because of this stigma attached , not to mention I have to drive a city over to get my dose before work because my city’s 24 hour pharmacy wasn’t making enough money and kept getting robbed so they started closeing at night untill 8:00am and didn’t tell anyone so all the usual methadone and suboxone users showed up to a closed store and were all late for work that whole week untill we could switch are pharmacy lmfao , but your right it did save my life your right about that , and the fact that you wrote about having The same experiences as me makes me feel like I’m not 98% alone so thank you ! And I hope it gets better for you my friend
Yup 70mg daily for the past 6 years but down from 110mg daily from 2011...it's a friggin tight rope my friends. I want to do an ibogaine)Ayuhuasca ceremony but they're not on nhs nor do I have the cashola to go the jungle that's thousands I don't have the readies for....
@@sirdelmontecarloheadcase2004 wish you all the best ! , me and my mom always say I wish They invented a brain surgery to stop this addiction , who ever invents that is getting a Nobel prize forsure lmfao
Absolutely shocking, how did I not know about this. As a recovering addict I know where I’d end up if I was forced off my script. If it doesn’t affect them directly they don’t care what happens to the addict. As long as their stats look good they are happy.
@cdxx420able you dont understand how unecessarily difficult and painful it is to go cold turkey off opiates. Theres not much choice in that mindset and its just asking for relapse or worse like how withdrawals have caused suicides before.
If maintenance is keeping people stable and also able to be productive like like having a stable career and family life. Also an effective method of preventing cravings and relapse, I don't think theres anything wrong with being on those medications. Its not like they provide any sort of high, they literally just keep the person well and keep withdrawals at bay.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him.
these videos are amazing, need more awareness to the reality of these situations
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The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
Abstinence for drugs or sex does not work. Evidence based policies are usually ignored by conservatives in the western world unless it can specifically be used for their party's or their own personal advantage.
They gonna say evidence has a liberal bias so we don't want that.
In reverse, Americans are doing the same in certain states, literally having drug camps. Both end of the stick suck
@@EmperorPenguinXRemas ... that's not "the other end of the stick". It's the same stick. 🤦🏽♂️ Drug abuse is still treated as a criminal offence when it's a healthcare issue, black markets flourish, these people are not getting the rehabilitation they need and the organisations that are willing to volunteer have their hands tied behind their back. What a braindead take smh 👎🏽
@@Pllayer064 How’s Portland?
@@Ponysoldier12 Yes Portland & Seattle... I've lived here my hole life so no 1 can try 2tell me that its NOT BAD HERE!
Respect to Dame Carol Black. The people hear you, too bad the politicians do not.
Aye.
It remind me off this.
Chinese History: 20,291 Opium Chests Destroyed (1839)
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After 10 years of heroin addiction, I have been clean for 3 years. I'm not on any maintenance. The only way I got where I am, was a lengthy jail sentence. It made me hate my poor decisions. There is no painless way out.
@@bobbybass3586 do you realise how stupid that sounds think you should quit drugs their making you comment very stupid things
You can't treat addiction, you can only mantain it with something else. Addiction is rarely the issue, rather a blanket covering other issues.
this guy and the 1 star review guy are the 2 most likeable things to watch on vice :)
VICE news is good too sometimes, they have different sections, VICE, VICE news others (can't remember the names lol)
I think its insane how governments and the thought only a FEW have are making so many live by their rule. It is really sickening. I dont want anyone to do drugs or be addicted, but this is the world we live in and you CAN NOT tell others how to treat their OWN bodies. Makes me want to rage.
No one is forcing addicts to get help from government funded services!
ABSOLUTELY agree it's their life and their body. But don't expect the taxpayers to pay for you to be on benefits or get free treatment!!!
@@originalunoriginal4055 courts do !!!
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
@@michelangelope830 You're copy pasting this everywhere. Don't know what you are trying to achieve?
Maintenance with opiod substitutes is meant to stabalize a person so they can deal with theIr issues that comes from years of drug use. The addict can also build up normal relationships, over come any anxieties and build self esteem and self confidence which got destroyed during addiction. These things can not be fixed in a short period of time. If you try to rush someone thru treatment they will just go back to what they know. This is not the army you can not order an addict to get clean... You need to show them a better way and how much they can still achieve in life, that normal life can be good without drugs and that they need to have a little faith in themselves and do not need to carry any shame. All the drug workers I know do amazing jobs and are really special people who don't get enough recognition. And by the way I am an (ex)addict so this is from experience.
agreed 100% well said
Totally agreed just do ketamine and GHB instead of fentanyl works for me but I get some ppl need absence
Us taxpayers are sick to death of our hard earned taxes going to molly coddle these people they should be put to work in whatever menial job SO they don't have time to laze around with their druggie mates. At least now with the Introduction of Universal credit they can't just scrounge off disability support!!!
@@galegrazutis964 dude if someone is stable on a script there is no reason why they can't work. If they are not on a script they live a dysfunctional life so it is better for the tax payer for an addict to be on a script and being a productive member of society rather than being an anti social addict causing crime to fund a habit. Lot of People are on lifetime scripts for different and more expensive medications than methadone But your one of the small minded that thinks instead of helping addicts to achieve happier more productive lives(and in many cases pay for their own scripts once in work) we should write addicts off as lazy and not support them. Well says alot about you as using "costing the taxpayer" more on a script than off for an addict is an untruth and hides your narrow minded and uneducated views.
@@tonybutcher4550 l can see a point to what you are saying but l have been badly attacked by some who bashed me over the head and took my rings off my fingers by breaking them. So sympathy is somewhat lacking. All for them to get their next hit!
I would like to see these politicians experience first hand what it means to get off methadone or opioids in general.
I know methadone was introduced in the 80's to basically lower the number of people dying from heroin overdose, but to deny methadone or subutex helped thousands of people getting their life back is simply crazy.
Nothing wrong with maintenance therapy!
@cdxx420able wow that's a pretty cynical, cold hearted view of things. I feel sorry for anyone in your family that succumbs to the pain of addiction, and I guarantee someone close to you is suffering from some sort of addiction.
Would love to see one done on our NHS healthcare system. It's falling apart. Trelisk hospital in Truro has people in corridors and outside in lines of ambulances with members of the public delivering tea and coffee.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
Harm reduction programs work so much better than trying for immediate abstinence. There are still some states in the USA that don't have methadone programs 😕
Methadone saved my life but it’s all about tapering off when you go on it. Staying on it for 20 years is not what it should be about
@@stevehasbeenthere imo if somone can live their life on a maintenance dose I can't judge. If it lets you work, live, love and be happy while contributing to your community, I couldn't care less.
@@BoomBeench very very true but it’s just so hard still on your body man .. I think after a certain time if you have done the counselling and the work and the groups. I just don’t like people to think they have to be on it for life but your absolutely right and in some cases it’s completely needed !! I just want my brothers and sisters healthy too !! It’s been so hard on my teeth and body from the methadone too..
@@BoomBeench And who's paying to maintain their new drug addiction? Tax dollars. This isn't fixing the issue. This is getting ppl addicted to a new drug that big pharma controls. Big Pharma is their new drug dealer.
@@stevehasbeenthere sort of agree but there should be no time limit for recovery as long as your always moving forward, even if steps are small, its progress. And don't forget people have lapses so as long as they are trying to move forward and not taking to many steps backwards then it's all good imo.
America is equally messed up . They've over corrected to the point you can't get pain meds after surgery even
I got surgery and was told to take aspirin and tylenol because they didn't want to risk giving me any opioids. I was appalled and was in so much pain for weeks, unsurprisingly over the counter drugs didn't stop it
I agree! I didn't need pain meds in my early 20s or teens but as I got older I started having bouts of chronic pain that was dismissed by doctors. Learning now it's not their fault the States aren't allowing them to treat their patients. Just like diabetics need their insulin chronic pain/drug addicts need their medicine so they can function in society and contribute to their community. We need more compassion but if their goal is to kill people off slowly this will surely make it possible. A safe drug is better than one off the streets. Some people really truly just want to feel better.
Yeah, its a complete knee-jerk system. I worked in the field for a minute after serving in the Navy for twenty years.
In Pennsylvania the system is completely inept
And the VA is just as bad
@@crystallicausi189 chronic pain is horrible, but opioid drugs have been proven to not work compared to placebo and they have been proven to cause addiction. Chronic pain sadly can't be treated with opioids, but maybe in the future we can see.
A neurologist gave me tylenol codeine for migraines...you can still get pain meds
Drug laws should only be made by drug experts instead of politicians who have no idea what they’re talking about.
I moved to mandhester from london 3 years ago because I hated it there for many reasons - expensive, obnoxious, stressful. Anyway my first introduction to manchester was on the tram where I saw so many people on drugs. I tried moving to a decent area but there are people on drugs around. My job takes me around Manchester and it's a sad sight. There are people on all sorts of substances and alcohol everywhere. I realise that this is a nationwide problem. Its got completely out of hand, even if you escape to a middle class area, wherever you go it's a plague.
Whatever the reasons for it, joblessness, single parent families, trauma. It's got to a point of national crises. Even if you ignore it by living in a nicer neighbourgood you inevitably run into it.
In Switzerland they ran as programme in the 90s helping addicts.
We need a programme here.
War on Drugs was lost over 30 years ago.
Saying a prayer for everyone suffering from a drug problem.
*Much Love*
As someone who's 39 and been addicted to heroin and fentynl for 20 years now iv, Ive been on methadone 6 different times now and it hasn't worked for me because I got zero help overcoming the trauma and PTSD that fuels my addiction. Treatment is a joke in the USA. It is simply a cyclic revolving door situation used to bill insurance companies FOR THE MOST PART, there is some decent places but few. 99.5% of opiate users relapse in under 6 months with mostly relapsing within 1 day of release.. This says alot. We need legal injection of heroin programs. End of story.
There needs to be help in overcoming the trauma and PTSD which causes the dysfunction and addiction in the first place. Some support and help for families and children BEFORE their lives get to the point where drugs like heroin get you through your pain!
Psychedelics brother. Its the way to salvation.
The whole US health care system is the shame of the "world's richest nation" ...
Just because "social" sounds like "socialism" which is weasely communism and is proven a fuct up system because it was twisted out of all recognisable shape by Stalin and its successors...
World history!
Vocabulary!
Eh?
(I'm 55. Smack for 5 year starting aged 23, then methadone... injectable form in the uk from 94 to 2016 and now... oral. In a town in france where there's no smack and only M sulphate to inject which gives me an horrible reaction.
I dream of needles every night
Have you ever tried kratom? Got me off pills.
@@XpRnz i suppose a reduction of opiates with some steady intake of Mdma or mda alternated with mushrooms, and at the end of treatment some lsd as the cherry on the cake does seem like ... well... worthy of research, wouldn't you say?
Let's find a grant for this immensely important project and a nice place in the country/mountains and one in a rockin' town where to work.
(Where i am i can't find any decent samples of any psychedelics.... traaaagick )
Legalize, tax and regulate
"There comes a time where you have to turn your back on that nonsense and just say no" -Trainspotting (1996)
I’m glad voice make mostly unbiased news articles and aren’t trying to push you a general thought/way of thinking by distracting you with mainstream media. My friend died last year from an OD and it was crazy to think he was part of that number. Although he wasn’t dependent on heroin, I feel as though there is a flaw within the UKs drug policy’s and a change needs to be made soon
This guy is good he presents the information in a way that is understandable and direct. Vs putting so much showmanship on it that it's unbearable.
One of the main failures of the UK drug treatment services, is that keyworkers don't have the time or the training to help people deal with their social issues. The worst thing for a newly clean user is cleaning up the mess their drug use has got them in. A lot of long term drug users have never had a proper job, don't have positive support systems and have undiagnosed mental health issues. When I was a senior drug worker, I had to beg my bosses to attend a university course that dealt with dual diagnosis clients. These are some of the most difficult people to reach, alot of them are homeless and deeply involved in crime. The course I wanted to attend was provided through the NHS and was for qualified nurses. It was a post graduate diploma in addiction studies and was focused on helping the exact people I was working with. In the end they let me take it (in my personal and holiday hours) and I passed, but then found I was not given enough time with clients to apply anything I'd learnt. I don't do the job anymore and moved into crisis intervention, working with people who are suicidal. It's a shame because they lose a lot of good staff, who are over worked and under paid. They are expected to work with some of the most vulnerable and damaged people in society, people who with the right help COULD tern their lives around. I still love working in the sector, there are a lot of charities, with a lot of dedicated staff that just get burnt out. In a perfect world we could do the job right first time , and stop the revolving door of seeing the same old faces... Unfortunately some are not that lucky, some people never get well and live a life worth fighting for, and when we have clients that don't make it, it stays with you for the longest time... 🤔😔 🙏Say Gouranga and be happy 🙏♥️
Happy someone trys.. I beat it for today
As aggravating as the subject matter is, I have to say that this is by far my favorite series on Vice right now.
I have been in the NHS treatment programmes for almost 10 years. AWFUL. I finally got sober through AA and private medical treatment. It's a shocking system
@Dog boy Yes same with people who are depressed, have ptsd and mental health. If only they had not been ill.
For me some people are lost for a time, sometimes months sometimes decades, however keeping them of street drugs is the answer to helping them be alive to be one day saved.
I’ve worked in pharmacy for five years and never seen a single patient come off of methadone or buprenorphine. When asking colleagues with 20+ years experience, I’ve heard of only one patient successfully reducing and completely coming off of methadone. You rarely see a dose reduction either.
I guess I'm a freak then. I was on subutex for 8 years and after reducing by 2mgs a month for 9 months I've been off it for 4 years. That last 2mgs was the hardest but I stayed with family, ate healthy and was on the treadmill 3 times a day to sweat out what was in my system. In the beginning there was alot of 🤢 and pain like my bones were trying to jump out of my skin and restless legs but on the whole it was nowhere near as bad as withdrawal from other things. Afterwards I kept thinking to myself if I had known that it was possible I would have done it sooner.
I quit because I wanted to be free . I thought going on subs would free me from drugs but all I really did was trade one drug for another. And I had less freedom with subs then other drugs. I had to make sure I attended the chemist daily within set hours, I had to make sure I had my script every month on time. If I travelled anywhere I had to make sure either I booked in with a chemist in each town I went through or I had to try to get takeaways . I had to set my daily routine around a drug and while in the beginning that was fine . I actually had a ritual around it. Would place an order for a steak burger, go get my dose , collect my order ,buy a slushie and then eat my food at the park. After a cigarette I would go on with whatever else I had to do. The dose became the thing everything else revolved around. Carried on like that for so many wasted hours over so many years. It's chemical handcuffs.
I'm sorry I wrote so much but I felt the need to tell you there can be light at the end of the tunnel. A person just has to want more then being tied to a harsh taskmaster. Because IMO as soon as we touch any drug we are giving up our freedom. We become a slave essentially to our addictions , it calls (withdrawals/cravings) we come running . We sell our souls to the dealer. Nothing and no one should have that control.
Drug addiction and deaths from drug over doses are at record time high numbers ALL over the world.
Remember kids, DON´T DO DRUG
You can do drugs, just do them responsibly and don’t get addicted and you’ll have some of the best times of your life
All drugs should be legal. Atleast that gives way for treating the people that need it instead of only policing and causes the substances to be pure rather than diluted.
No that's dumb
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The drug death rate per capita in Scotland is even worse. So sad to see, we need more compassion in this world. There will always be misery, poverty and addiction under capitalism. Iain Duncan Smith is also responsible for thousands of deaths of disabled people too.
Thats the fake valium epidemic
Conservatives ruining things? What a brand new idea.
Socialism has killed tens of millions more than the centre.
I am ashamed to say that I voted conservative, and now I’d like to know if they have achieved anything at all while being in power this century. There must be something
@@bennathan7353 roughly the same as labour.
@@kenrehill8775 so that leaves us with Lib dems, they couldn’t do worse than Labor and conservative in the past 30 years
@@bennathan7353 I think democrats have done way worse and sadly because I'm black my family tells me I have to align with liberal views. Even though they never do what they promise.
The sad thing is the blind hatred for heroine addicts when I lived in a youth hostel heroine addicts where bullied by dozens of people and the staff could not stop it so they are rejected and people advise you not to be friends with them in case you are guilty by association.
@melancholy I know this is late as I've only just come across your comment I hope and pray you stayed strong and got your script sorted theirs no way they should be able to leave you ill when you been doing so well trust me I know how hard staying clean is getting off it is the easy part compered to staying off it that's the real test and some doctors and drug workers seem to wanna make it harder I've had so many problems over the years with them but don't give up you have come to far i wish you the best
There’s a similar, related institutional callousness in psychiatric medication. Each round of attempts at new medication takes months to orchestrate through the NHS, and privately attained prescriptions can’t be automatically transferred. The system either leaves mental patients (often with concomitant addiction problems) for months without access to a new medication, or paying exorbitant prices privately.
Ive been on a treatment program for probably over 10 years. Every time i have tried to get off the support workers come up with a reason to keep me on and even increase my medication. They say things like I don't feel your ready or im concerned you'll relapse. Even after 2 years of clean tests im stuck on this rut. Trekking 4km round trip 3 days a week in rain sleet or snow. Every time i feel like i progress with a support worker, they leave or transfer to a different centre.soni have to have a new key worker and start over with everything. I am stable, settled, been uni, housed, in a relationship, clean for a few years, crime free for over a decade, attending appointments, doing weekly piss tests, i feel like every time i ask to reduce and aim to come off the programme they find a way to up my medication or say im not ready. My life is controlled by this medication and having to go to the chemist and appointments set times at 3 times a week. But people dont seem to want to hear from people who are in this system. Ive seen a lot and even more so when I was younger and had addiction issues and was in and out of the prison and hostel systems. Im doing the best i have ever done and its still not good enough to break free from my past. Im mid 30s and want to move on. Ive seen double figures of people and friends die in my area from drug use, i am not proud of my past but it has made me the person I am. I channel addiction into positive things, ive done countless courses, learnd IT and programming, run a tutoring community with over 8000 subscribers/followers on fb, my wife wants to start a family, its hard because this programme saved my life in a way all those years ago but long term i regret it. If I could have done a rehab thing it wouldn't have worked because addiction takes years sometimes after you stop taking stuff before mentally you are ready to move on from it. The hardest one was my best friend from school days, like a brother and he died from an overdose. Something clicked after that like I was taking life for granted
I hear ye mate, hope you're doing well
“There hasnt been a wave of super deadly new drugs coming to the market”...
Well,as a lone example,I present Etizolam,or as its known “street valium”.
Very cheap,and is featured in i think 1/3 drug deaths in scotland
Personally I think that someone who knows nothing about drugs and the effects they have on you,should have no say in how and what the laws are and what’s the best way to help addicts
I agree. They will never understand what it’s like.
Let’s be honest here, the majority of conservative mps have used drugs, though it would be the finest coke rather than heroin
They should make a think tank of successful (ex)addicts, who know what has worked for them and have the understanding needed, to advice these MPs, who don't understand addiction, but think they do.
100%
Like Professor David Nutt? He was actually dismissed from his position of drug and addiction advisor to the government by a Labour MP though which goes to prove they are all just as fucking bad as each other.
Drug abuse will NEVER go away!!! It just won’t.. People will always like to take drugs!! But then before you realize that you even have an actual addition it’s already too late and it becomes a full blown part of everyday life. The only way most will stop is when they get sick and tired of being sick and tired.. Or if they OD. In either case the person will only stop when they themselves are truly ready!!.
Real. It hasn’t mattered for me, and won’t matter for my pals, despite the deep times we still held our jobs and promised to be better - it is a year on and you just won’t fucking change.
Change is fully personal, I haven’t even fully done it and I know that !
@@kayamac3 Facts!! Yeah same here. It’s a process for sure. Good luck with everything tho!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I think drug use is directly related to the economy. Here in the states, people hit the hardest often turn to drugs. I hear it’s getting more and more expensive to exist in the UK too. We live in such a sad world 😢
I spoke to a senior psychologist who works closely with addiction/pain management & is a prescriber of alot of opiates. I asked him recently had he heard of or any information on the Project twenty21 & he had not heard anything about it! That imo shows where the focus is.
One of my favorite vice segement... this and dirty money! Great job!
Thank you so much for covering this. This is a HUGE problem clients are dying due to the 3 rd sector underbidding for NHS contracts in drug treatment and mental health services. While the “charity” corporations that get these contracts are making a lot of money.
I wish I could communicate to the younger folks just how damaging the Conservative Party has been to the U.K, we have lost what used to be taken for granted , for example free university education, NHS covered free dental and free eye care, the fair and regulated home rental office and inspectorate that capped rent inspected the standard and kept rent at a fair and affordable level, due to the abolishment of this, families and those who are disabled must use their disability benefits such as mobility and care for rent and food due to uncapped high rents to stave of homelessness. Loss of humane temporary housing, total loss of housing benefit for the young, falling housing benefits for low income families, zero regulation of the housing market with gentrification making multitudes of families homeless. Conglomerates buying up swathes of property as investments making living as a middle income family impossible in the South of England . There are tiny amount of “affordable” council properties for those that earn less, they are not that affordable very hard to get and tend to be rabbit hutches that do not resemble a home. The Conservatives have destroyed social care programs whether for children, drug treatment or mental health all have been defunded and very limited conditional help only, due to services being put out to 3rd party underbidding very few psychiatric nurses left or youth workers or community centres, programs for young or marginalised people have been decimated.The stigmatisation of foreigners, the disabled and the poor and the elderly that have been left to die alone or in hospitals, due to cuts in social care,
I used to have a sense of pride being British but now I feel ashamed, so dismayed and people do not see it because it is hidden by technocratic jargon and much of it is done by stealth. To the young try to fight for your rights as a citizen do not let them take anymore from us. If they can they will take what little is left and have us fight each other for the crumbs. As Boris said Why don’t we feed the people to the animals.
Ian Duncan Smith was more concerned about his wallet than treating anybody with any addiction. But would he feel the same if it was one of his family or his children... Absolutely not not not not not not not...
Sorry i may have to stop saying the word NOT as i maybe addicted to it.
Hey, this was a great mini-doc but could turn down the music a little. It overshadow the speaker
This was such a good video! I hope this reaches everyone.
I'm confused by this. I've never ever to this day seen anyone be taken off methadone with the exception of prison
That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I have known quite a few people over the yrs. The most used routes are reduction to a low dose (10-20mls) methadone then swap to subutex which can be reduced to almost nothing(0.4) ml tablets I think or low dose of meth then withdrawl detox in a clinical environment. I know alot of people who have detoxed in prison then just gone back to using when they get out as they never worked on the issues or causes of the addiction while in Prison and never had the right support on release. Unfortunately there is no easy way or Highly effective way to detox and many people have many attempts at recovery before success.
@@tonybutcher4550 I've seen massive cuts to services and detox beds, but not taken off methadone. They might reduce someone on 100+ mg especially if they're taking other depressants like alcohol or valium. Methadone is dirt cheap, cheaper than subutex by far. Yet they are incentivised to swop people to subutex which doesn't make sense financially, but does in terms of functionality and safety. The whole system -every system/institution- in this country is totally inefficient
Politics = the elite doing business, and not in the interest of the greater good as we're meant to believe. I would be very surprised if anyone was simply taken off methadone or forced off it against their will unless they've missed more than 3 consecutive days pick up, which in that case they do. Infact I think that's against human rights. In the early 2000's prisoners were allowed to take methadone if they was prescribed it on the street. That come about because of a ruling from the European Court of human rights that stated you are allowed the same healthcare in prison as outside. So personally I think its media BS
@@kinny369 I just realised you meant someone being kicked off their script. Sorry been one of those days lol. But to be honest I can't remember seeing/knowing anyone kicked off their script unless they haven't been to pick up 3 days in a row. Even when they keep using on top there is no threat to their script.
I thought you meant you never seen anyone come off their script sorry. And yeah the whole subject is sometimes politicised for peoples agendas. Which doesn't help.
That's what a detox is
When your 13 and you understand this better then the government that’s older then you and meant to take care of everyone💀
I personally know people who have been on methadone for years and it’s helped them lead a somewhat normal life with job family etc. Addiction is an illness and if it needs treating for 6 months or 6 years so be it.
I remember this time. My drug agency basically told people who were using would have their meth
methadone stop. I started on my maintenance
script since 98, when I was 18. Im 43, and have been heroin free for 3 years. Im still on methadone but have dropped from 120ml to 19ml. Im alive because of harm reduction. Im reasonably healthy, no blood borne viruses. I have a life now and looking forward to getting off my methadone.
Kindest regards from Ireland.
@@patkearney9320 Thank you. Im a big fan of Irish music. I love the Scratch, Mr Irish Bastard, Sir Reg. You guys really have some awesome musicians. Music really helped my recovery tbh. Much better than drugs.
Another example of how detached from reality our politicians are. We need serious reform in this country if these issues are ever going to get resolved.
I'm American, and I've always looked at European drug attitudes as progressive and US attitudes as regressive. However over the last 10 years the attitudes seemed to have flipped in some Euro countries such as the UK, which is sad to see.
I am on methadone and have been for 5 years. I hate when people compare it to heroin, its nowhere near the same... it has literally saved my life and it makes me cringe that some people might not get that help because of idiots who don't understand addiction and methadone maintenance.
The UK isn't euro anymore
Ppl don't relise how strong methadone is.its stronger than a lot of heroin on the street but its slow relise.its 50% herion.yes its that strong.
@@vvillem9 we left the European Union not the continent, please learn to differentiate the two
@@vvillem9 How can you not tell the difference between a political union and a continent?
Im still in the system. In 2011 Turning point began a horizon scheme. Never been sectioned before -or since- but I went nuts with a reduction I couldn't handle. A good key worker took charge and got my'script back. I am still there but at the lowest level of meth for 10 years. Maybe I'll never be free but I am working and have a semblance of a life. If my 'script was taken away 2mo I would like to think that I would tough it out. I doubt it would be like that. M'done costs nothing and when you work you pay for it! Its a good political football: Immigrants, jobless and the junkies. If we sort this out we will be great again. It comes from the old playbook. Sad.
So you're telling me after 11 years the program is working? lmao clearly not working if you're still an addict. You're just addicted to the "scripts" now and the government is your new dealer.
@@AC-vs9kq you don't have a clue about treatment or addiction recovery then do you fella. Everybody's recovery is different and have different issues to solve. Educate yourself.
@Jack Deedman keep making steps forward brother, no matter how big or small, just keep on that journey to recovery and ignore the uneducated who have a lot of opinions but absolutely no clue.
@@tonybutcher4550 go on and keep calling 10 years of addiction to "scripts" recovery... clearly they're still and addicit.. just of a different drug now. Problem solved I guess..
@@AC-vs9kq you not heard the saying once an addict always an addict lol. I am 20 yrs clean and I am still an addict. Not a day goes by I don't think about my past drug use and I have never seen the world the same since that first use. This is not the army, you cannot order people to get clean... Instead you show them a better way to live, build their self esteem and self confidence, deal with the shame and guilt, deal with the issues that lead to that addiction. And that takes time and alot of councilling. People have different things going on so every recovery is different and takes different amount of time but I don't think you ever recover truly. As for swapping one drug for another that's bullshit they are both opiods, the difference is methadone is easier to reduce on and is safer. It also stabilises the addict so the can get. Back into work while working on there recovery. As long as they keep moving forwards the timescale is irrelevant. To get a person who has become an addict and is at their lowest and has nothing, family has disowned them and they hate themselve, to the point of living a normal, happy and productive life can take many years even 20+ so your comments show your ignorance
I can tell you why drug related deaths are on the rise in the UK. The working class and their communities where destroyed, industry closed, factories shut, mines shut, the high street boarded up. The areas where this all existed where then left with nothing. No regeneration, no investment, no retraining, nothing. Communities then started to fracture, traditions started to slip, respect and pride seemed pointless as there was nothing to feel respect for or pride in. These wasteland areas of the uk had nothing but booze and boredom. The people became angry, they wanted fun or to fight. This situation was then the perfect breading ground for the drug business. Globalisation was what we were offered, fast, cheaper but we were never told how much it would really cost the UK. Gone are the ship yards, the steel works, the aerospace, the automotive, the mines, engineering, cotton mills, exports. Hello to reality tv, bargain booze, multiculturalism, inflation, unaffordable housing, street crime, homelessness, the breakdown of the family structure, the list goes on.
Our self pity industry is the envy of the world.
I'm currently on methadone but I'm aiming to get off it very soon. Lowered to 25ml now.
In my time it was the opposite they would keep you on methadone for ages with no soul work and whenever you asked to lower the amount they would question you heavily .
Exactly. They want you on it forever. Always the dollars
Vice, please keep calling out the conservative government at every chance you get, don't let them get away with their cruelty and corruption.
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I personally saw how well the use of methadone helped people regain control of their lives and lead them to having a happy and productive lives. It's mind boggling that a system which, while not perfect, was hugely beneficial for so many. IDS is responsible for so much evil in the UK, I hope history judges him accordingly.
I used to work for a charity, so I've seen this bidding process first. The whole race to the bottom thing is exactly right, but it's not just service users who face difficulties because of this. The poor, usually badly paid, staff hear the brunt of the service used anger and frustration as well as crippling work loads.
UK is no longer a model for the world
Have they ever been? lmao
UK's been on a freefall into hell since the Mid/Late 2000s. Just so happens to be Conservatives in power the whole time, hmmmmmmmmmmm
having done my Uni in the UK I was shocked by the drug use, it was crazy and doing MD, Coke and Ket was basically the norm
It's same like other illness treatment, like cancer and AIDS...same results
Giving intensive information and reality of addiction to every teenager is more important than anything else!!
There’s definitely a difference between using and abusing drugs. I think that for some who abuses substances, total abstinence from all substances should be the goal. But I don’t think you can force it to happen. I believe the government should incentivize them to get clean. But if methadone keeps them alive and allows them to be able to participate in society, then that sounds like a pretty good start point, even if it ends up being the start and end point for some.
The only common denominator between all addicts of any social background and distinction is that they are notorious liars. Addiction affects predominantly young healthy criminals. I have been trying to have the discovery of the nature of addiction known for years to end the war on drugs. I would like to help you as a recovering addict and psychologist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar, drugs don’t cause addiction and only liars get hooked and only honesty gets freedom. The tragedy of addiction is children who revenge a childhood hurt, or trauma, against their parents learning from example. Addicts don’t forgive, are needy of attention that steal from others, and have secrets that tell in AA meetings to reveal who they truly are to take off the mask and heal, ending the identity deception. Liars bring up liars, addiction runs in families. Parents hurt their children and children retaliate becoming victims of themselves to conceal the hatred and hurt others. I am alone socially ostracised by liars paying the price for being honest. I can prove my claim that the obvious truth is addiction is the psychology of a liar dropping mortality rates when my theory is known. It is harder to convince a fool that to know the truth is better than to be deceived than to deceive him. X
Totally agree its mad that the real experts are us feends but the politicians think they no wog1 its a jk
Treatment providers, be they third sector or NHS trusts are typically given three year tenders for a region/county at a time. Usually the pricing for each new tender is reduced with increasingly demanding KPI's. Just the fact that every 3 years service delivery is changed to a different provider, often using different pathways, usually takes at least a year to bed in with staff and is always disruptive to the well being of service users.
Ian Duncan Smith is a Dickensian villian, shame on him, his supporters and the fools who vote for his party and it's policies!
2 out of the 4561 were my close friends. Young bright individuals with their whole lives ahead of them
Thanks for all the links in the description, I do watch the channel aswell, the content is fab, real life and topics that are going on in the world right now, greatstuff, a good documentary above, a real eye opener, maybe the people outhere can see that addiction doesn't discriminate, from people who have bad mental health, people who have been abused as kids/tough upbringing, self medication, peerpressure or even just because you may wanted to try them, not realising the longterm damage it causes, in my opinion there is not a lot of funding from the government every year
For the service, aswell as people doing jobs in these centres a lot of them are not great, a lot of them do be in recovery but think what worked for them should work for everyone else, not realising the best approach is person centred, especially with the way an addicts brain is wired totally different from the normal Joe Soap
As an adult, you have to take responsibility for your own actions.
We can still have a supportive environment for adults who have a challenging life situation
The "People's Party"
Who would have thought they'd cut spending on everything?!
Except weapons of course!
Say nO to drugs….. period. That solves the entire problem!!
@UA-cam comment junkie This particular video is on drugs… is it nOt? Don’t use the stuff, and it won’t reach that point of no return. Period.
@know Nothing I've been around 30 addicts my life : 10 went cold turkey and went on to live productive lives,10 others are DEAD,and the other 10 are still using. An addict can be any of these 3 groups if they want it bad enough..
How UK conservatives lack human psychology and insights in human nature, love, empathy and genuine interesst in the people...
Conservatives are literally the Psychopath party upheld by the uneducated and gullible
His one eye blinks rapidly & the other rarely ever blinks it was all i could pay attention to at the end!
Drug potency has gone down if anything, but the services are absolutely bare bones now
Not just the Conservatives, SNP too!
I don't care what drugss u take as long as ur productivity checks.
God save me from people trying to save me!!!! I’ve been on methadone for pain for several years, and I live in constant fear that they’re going to try to detox me because of some stupid trend in politics.
On the bright side, at least the British are doing this to themselves this time instead of to other countries in the name of spreading God
Drug treatment centers only made me a worse addict I went to some of the nicest ones in Orange county to the tippy top of Hollywood hills with private chefs and your own pool on in your lil backyard area and it was so fucked up all about that insurance pay out that they wanted and worked around sure they had the tools to help but about 75% of patients ended up relapsing and going out to doing drugs again for months and then back into another rehab a vicious cycle. What really helped to get me clean was honestly moving away from the city to the mountains and living a whole new fresh life away from drugs and your friends.
My recent worker said he had 75 clients before he...and basically all of them leave after a few months - just when they know your story and are in a position to help. V frustrating!
Iv watched a lot of your documentaries and this effected me the most - becaue it is basically my failure story over the past 16-17 years of my life. What a watse
I know you commented a while ago but wanted to say I know exactly where you're coming from I've had so many different workers way to many to count most of them can't cope with the job ain't got a clue or use the job as a stepping stone to move up and then they expect you to trust and tell your life story to yet a another worker when you know the same thing gonna happen again and now without a worker you can't get a script so they give you no choice its a joke and its only getting worse and now anyone can get a script and abuse it years ago if you used on top you lost your script not now you use on top much as you like so for the people who really want to get and stay clean their not getting the help they should. hope your doing well mate best of luck to you stay strong