Masterbate has no meaning. Masturbate has, but it takes a really childish approach to confuse that to Owen 'The Master' Bates. As for the packaging, it's edgy humour. If some people don't like it, so be it.
Great review! I would like to try these darts out for myself. The grip on the front end is rather strange looking to me. Also the Condor Zero Stress do NOT give me any issues at all. I only own 1 set of them but have never had a crazy deflection.
IMHO, this isn’t a hill for him to die on, the PDC has every right to draw a line in the sand. It cracks me up that Loxley was like “Ok, let’s do it!”. This might soon become a collectors box! It looks like a solid dart, thanks for the review!
Hi, Why do you think dart manufacturers don’t make points without lips? I would have to guess because they want you to keep buying flights on a regular basis???
I have no idea to be honest. One80 has been doing it successfully for years and their darts are some of the nicest on the market. Harrows recently tried it with the Shard darts but it was kind of a poor attempt at it. I think you're spot on though. If all the companies did this then we wouldn't be needing flights all the time.
Great review as usual. Looking for new darts for Christmas so will be trawling your videos👍. Btw have you ever seen Niko Springer’s darts? Gee whizz, tempted to try them as they look so weird😂
Awesome review haha! Maybe a tip. Let us know who you think they are for grip wise and who they are for sure not for. You did talk about the length of the point for the recreational dart player and the grip level which is very informative.
@@WorldwideDarts maybe I did not notice it. You did say they are great for your grip pattern. Also really interesting what you said about the drill depth of the stems changing the weight balance. I am still learning abour grip and balance so that's why the question and the emphasis on those 2 things. I can't find a dart that suits me well. Current 2 sets I don't like. 🙈🙈
Nice set of darts and review. Why does everyone get butt-hurt so easily? I don’t know the man but I doubt he is carrying out some evil agenda with a nick-name.
I knew that name was going to cause problems for him with the PDC. It will be interesting to see what he comes up with. Good set of darts, but I prefer a bit more grip.
Great video again WW, I've actually never thrown a Loxley dart, do you have a recommendation of which Loxley dart I should try first? Looking forward to the Grand Slam! Hope you're doing well
Thanks. They make so many nice darts that it's tough to pick just one. Although I haven't tried them I heard a bunch of good things about the Tuck. I always liked their Featherlites
The zeros are trash. Too soft, they tore off from the stem for me. The Axe are incredible. Just ordered the Winmau fusion flights. I hope they perform as well as the axe. I’m here for the flights lol. But seriously these are some nice barrels. Big fan of the Bristow style. My favorite darts are just variations of this. RD Phantoms, Beau Greaves, and Chizzy Harrows V1. Man they pushed the envelope with the Master Bates stuff
Great darts, I don't think you could do anything wrong if you buy Loxley darts, the price is bit high compared to clearance darts, but I guess still fair price.
Worldwide; Good review. I have to agree, I really don't like the Condor zero stress flights either; too many weird deflections and expensive. Thanks and keep the reviews rolling.
Meh to the PDC for wanting the nickname change, it's really not that bad... but also, Owen could be more original, growing up that was automatically your nickname if your last name was Bates (or any various spelling). Darts aren't too shabby though, other than that nose they're pretty nice!
I have these darts and really like them. I too dislike the Condor zero stress because of just how flex they are; they have caused some bizarre deflections. I much prefer the normal Condor Axe, K flex, or Cosmo Fit flights with their carbon stem. I really look forward to the new L styles coming out and I think I’ll like them based on your recent review of them. Thanks for this video, you always do a great job. 👍🎯
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If i was Owen Bates, I would walk on the WC stage and ask (live) why I needed to change my name.
If you can't figure out what Masterbate means and why it is inappropriate, I don't know what to tell you.
Masterbate has no meaning. Masturbate has, but it takes a really childish approach to confuse that to Owen 'The Master' Bates. As for the packaging, it's edgy humour. If some people don't like it, so be it.
Great review! I would like to try these darts out for myself. The grip on the front end is rather strange looking to me.
Also the Condor Zero Stress do NOT give me any issues at all. I only own 1 set of them but have never had a crazy deflection.
IMHO, this isn’t a hill for him to die on, the PDC has every right to draw a line in the sand. It cracks me up that Loxley was like “Ok, let’s do it!”. This might soon become a collectors box! It looks like a solid dart, thanks for the review!
Cheers Zolto! Yeah, that nickname wasn't going anywhere anyway. He'd outgrow it in a couple years.
Great set and review but no picture of Owen
PDC, no fun allowed. His tune ought to be Master of Puppets... Master Master. 🤣
Hi, Why do you think dart manufacturers don’t make points without lips? I would have to guess because they want you to keep buying flights on a regular basis???
I have no idea to be honest. One80 has been doing it successfully for years and their darts are some of the nicest on the market. Harrows recently tried it with the Shard darts but it was kind of a poor attempt at it. I think you're spot on though. If all the companies did this then we wouldn't be needing flights all the time.
Great review as usual. Looking for new darts for Christmas so will be trawling your videos👍. Btw have you ever seen Niko Springer’s darts? Gee whizz, tempted to try them as they look so weird😂
The One80's? Yeah, very Klaasen like. Not sure I could throw those things with any sort of consistency.
Awesome review haha! Maybe a tip. Let us know who you think they are for grip wise and who they are for sure not for. You did talk about the length of the point for the recreational dart player and the grip level which is very informative.
I usually do that don't I? I let everyone know if it's good for a front, middle or rear grip or all of the above.
@@WorldwideDarts maybe I did not notice it. You did say they are great for your grip pattern. Also really interesting what you said about the drill depth of the stems changing the weight balance. I am still learning abour grip and balance so that's why the question and the emphasis on those 2 things. I can't find a dart that suits me well. Current 2 sets I don't like. 🙈🙈
Good darts set! The condor zero sters doesn't work for me either, it's too flexible and too light (and as expensive as K-fex and not nearly as good)
Nice set of darts and review. Why does everyone get butt-hurt so easily? I don’t know the man but I doubt he is carrying out some evil agenda with a nick-name.
Seems to be the times where everyone out there wants to be offended at every little thing. Those people need to get a hobby or something and keep busy
@@WorldwideDartsAgree 100%
I knew that name was going to cause problems for him with the PDC. It will be interesting to see what he comes up with. Good set of darts, but I prefer a bit more grip.
What’s wrong with he name The Master Owen Bates.. it’s not like they’re saying Owen Master Bates…Great looking dart…
I guess it all depends on where you put the "Master" 😂
Great video again WW, I've actually never thrown a Loxley dart, do you have a recommendation of which Loxley dart I should try first? Looking forward to the Grand Slam! Hope you're doing well
Thanks. They make so many nice darts that it's tough to pick just one. Although I haven't tried them I heard a bunch of good things about the Tuck. I always liked their Featherlites
@@WorldwideDarts Ok thanks, I will keep those in mind
The zeros are trash. Too soft, they tore off from the stem for me. The Axe are incredible. Just ordered the Winmau fusion flights. I hope they perform as well as the axe. I’m here for the flights lol. But seriously these are some nice barrels. Big fan of the Bristow style. My favorite darts are just variations of this. RD Phantoms, Beau Greaves, and Chizzy Harrows V1. Man they pushed the envelope with the Master Bates stuff
Great darts, I don't think you could do anything wrong if you buy Loxley darts, the price is bit high compared to clearance darts, but I guess still fair price.
Compared to the other big name brands the darts are priced decently. I also think Loxley is quickly becoming a big name brand.
Worldwide; Good review. I have to agree, I really don't like the Condor zero stress flights either; too many weird deflections and expensive. Thanks and keep the reviews rolling.
Cheers Mike 👍🏻
love your reviews
I appreciate that!
2 cookies in today's video btw 😁
Meh to the PDC for wanting the nickname change, it's really not that bad... but also, Owen could be more original, growing up that was automatically your nickname if your last name was Bates (or any various spelling). Darts aren't too shabby though, other than that nose they're pretty nice!
Great looking darts only thing..dont like logo spot in the middle
There's someone else that comments here often who hates the smooth sections too 😂 I don't mind it on this set as my grip is nowhere near.
@@WorldwideDarts but should be at the rear one80 does that most time
Nice simple barrels, not sure they are such good value when the new Chizzies are much cheaper
How about waffling on about some shorter barreled darts buddy!
I've got a set of Tex Hydra darts that I'll be reviewing soon. Straight from Australia 👍🏻
The pdc is a bunch of old women and I hate it. But not much we can do about it.
Nah bro it’s just not appropriate, that nickname really doesn’t have to be there if kids are watching. Has nothing to do with women.
I have these darts and really like them. I too dislike the Condor zero stress because of just how flex they are; they have caused some bizarre deflections. I much prefer the normal Condor Axe, K flex, or Cosmo Fit flights with their carbon stem. I really look forward to the new L styles coming out and I think I’ll like them based on your recent review of them. Thanks for this video, you always do a great job. 👍🎯
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, great set of darts. I can see why everybody likes them.