Eye of the Timex! Vintage Timex Watch Restoration
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2021
- In this video I see If I can repair and restore this non running vintage Timex watch that is in the shape of an eye and looks remarkably similar to the much more iconic Omega Dynamic. Will I succeed ? watch to find out.
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this might interest you ua-cam.com/video/3H-rOIzIJaw/v-deo.html this guy strips and reassembles one and makes it look simple!
I just viewed your Timex repair/rebuild. Great job! I have been collecting vintage timepieces for almost 70 years, having a collection of over 300. Many are American brands from tne twenties thru present day. I have several Timex mens watches, some new old stock, balance very good. I do have a NOS of the one you just rebuilt, plus the gold plated version, NOS also. I also enjoy Seiko, having purchased several back in the later 60's when I was in the military stationed in Vietnam. I am not really able to do much repair work anymore due to hand issues, but still enjoy collecting as I see one for sale. The best to you on your own repairing and collecting, it is very addictive!!
Ray
@@rayjackson9317 thank you Ray. Pleased you liked this video. My collection is a byproduct of my hobby of fixing them!
i think its crucial for this kind of content to have clean hands and nails...
@@byproduct8849 really? It’s a bit petty. I’m not a watchmaker this is a hobby and I work with my hands in engineering. I wear finger cots when assembling watches.
In the sixties and seventies there were two main Timex factories overseas. One was in Scotland, the other was in Puerto Rico. There was a moment in which the Scottish-made ones found certain problems, that the factory in Puerto Rico had not. So this manager from PR was flown to Scotland. Thing is that since Timex watches, designed to be disposables didn’t have jewels, or very few. And since it was metal on metal, they were supposed to be lubricated in a more massive way than a normal watch. Puerto Ricans technicians figured out early that the amount ordered in the protocols would be counter productive, so they, against the orders decided to use less oils in the manufacturing process. This Puerto Rican manager was flown to Scotland and taught them the methods improvised in the Caribbean Island. And that manager was the father of a very dear friend, who told me that story. Had he not passed away some years ago, he would have enjoyed this video... ❤️
Finally, someone made a full video about Timex movement. I have a similar one so now I know to service it. Thanks for this grat vid 😀
And thank you for watching Sir. Always variety on this channel ! High or low end they all have a story and in my case all have problems to solve.
Hello Mike. I was drafted into the service in 1972 and I brought this same model watch with me. It endured massive abuse and kept on ticking! (As the commercial used to say)
It was a pleasure watching you service this watch. It brings back memories!
and what happened to it?
More than a reminiscence of the old clock movements there Mike but well done and what a fabulous little timepiece you've got. Happy days.
My Retor watches you are good at restoring vintage watches ⌚️ my friend
Crystal lift tip: 10:20 when you have some compression of the crystal, take two wooden popsicle sticks and pry against the watch case and crystal lift fingers for a more controlled, slower lift.
Great work on this watch!
Perhaps you should make a video about the crytal lift. I have had difficulties with this finicky device.
I think these movements are very good and interesting, they are in my opinion as beautiful as the expensive ones.
Tip on crystal lift. I used this type for many years. Once you clamp the crystal don't move the case..turn the knob on the crystal lift until the crystal releases. Use thin film on crystals that are in good shape.old crystals are a bit tight but don't turn case. slight pressure applied down on case with thumb between
lift and the case in your hand it will let go with no damage don't let the case out of the palm of your hand. I hope this helps. This was the method I was trained to do in watchmaking school. I hope this helps you. You make very informative videos with showing all the problems we face in our trade.
Thank you for this insight. I did think that the theory must be to tighten until it drops out but it feels so tight already and I got worried that too far it would just break. I'd love to know more from pro's actually surprised there are some that watch my channel. Must be cringe viewing for you guys at times!
Maximum respect for anyone who does this for their profession.
I've bought about 15 of these vintage Timex recently and they all seem to run pretty true. When considering that some of them are 60 years old and have never been serviced I'd agree that whoever engineered them knew something.
I have the same conclusion. Built to last bit possibly not intentionally. The reality is they may be 50+ old but most possibly only saw a few years of operation before finding a drawer.
@@MyRetroWatches it goes all the way back to Ingersoll in the early years when Disney had Ingersoll build the early Mickey watches. They were built to last even as only souvinoirs a reminder of a trip to Disneyland.
Re the crystal lift, I have used it on various crystals and often you have to screw it down really really hard. In fact, as hard as it will go. I have never broken a crystal doing that (as long as it was not cracked to start with!). Thanks for the brilliant interesting and instructive videos.
Thanks for this tip. It’s exactly what I needed to hear and in fact I was preparing to test to destruction a crystal to understand how far I can push it.
I had an inkling I could use so much pressure as I feel they should just come out easily rather than the forced way I did it.
Hi Mike, I've watched video again. It's so pleasing to watch, and with great results for the watch. I like this method, if a hobbyist had a shakey hand, could this method work for standard watches? Removing the palet fork first. It sounds lazy I know but would be willing to try it. It must old age!. Well done again. Adrian
I agree, typically the tension ring prevents the crystal from cracking.
I haven't damaged the crystal, however, the crystal lift gouged the dial. You should do a vid about this device.
You’re the Techmoan of watches, good video. Cheers.
I enjoy exploring various movements with you. Timex watches are pretty interesting. You do great running through these unique to us watches. Thanks great video. Good Fortunes, Great Successes and Many Blessings 🫡🤝
I have the reissue of the TIMEX Marlin. Unfortunately it's the only macanical watch I own that works. But I love it I can watch the balance ( heartbeat) for days. Anyway nice job. I do wish people would give these entry-level watches more love not all of us can afford a Rollex. Thanks for sharing 👍.
Takes a lick'n and keeps on tick'n. Well done Mike!
I love the aesthetics of these watches but hate the pressed together movements. Nicely done!
I don't think I could add much here, but I did use a crystal life for the first time a couple months ago when I first started the hobby and it was a crystal I needed to save, so I used a piece of bag to protect it--same we use when removing hands or doing other watch stuff. I bought a couple of these watches off eBay (also when I became interested in watchmaking) and decided to putz around with one tonight. Here we go! Back to the vid, hopefully you got it working lol
Status update: It's 1:32 pm US time on Sunday and I officially finished! Been working on it since I commented above. I went as far as you did and then said, "what the heck" and decided to figure out the full disassembly... mainly because I noticed the barrel is open style and I could see the mainspring. Also, shockingly the bridge set on the pivots rather easily during rebuild, totally shocked by that one.
Only thing I need is a crystal. Did you do Cousins for that?
Thanks again for forging the path on this one!
This was the funniest video of yours, literally I laughed so hard my stomach hurts. Started with the crystal removal, then removing the movement, bent some frame, dipped in solvent, oiled and fixed, date disc clicked in place by itself, brilliant episode, simply brilliant. Thank you 🙏.
haha fantastic comment really pleased you found it all funny. Was a mad project but turned out alright in the end.
Great watching, really like your honesty when things don't go perfectly smoothly. Gives normal people thinking about getting into and learning about watches hope. Thanks.
Thanks Mark
Apologies for some of the video quality. Despite using an iPhone 12 pro which has all the best lenses etc it still does not turn out good video. Its hard to tell in the heat of filming and as I only do one take to keep the video genuine quality can let me down when I get to edit.
Something I wish to improve going forward with some new kit once I have an idea of setup and some spare cash to invest.
Always hard with focusing. When filming very close up I always go manual, set focus then film. With further distance I got automatic focus in the middle but still needs to check the screen of camera if everything is Okey.
@@Watcheyes it’s not the focus that that’s the issue as unless I am picking up the watch focal lock is on. It’s having the camera close enough but with space to work under. I then have to crop in edit. My old phone i10x.rwas far better. Apple have just one to sophisticated with this new Dolby stuff. Plays back lovely on a Dolby device.
I need to work out a way to use my DSLR but in this roll too desk space is limited which is frustrating.YT has also downgraded the quality on this one a bit too.
I will spend this week experimenting with different ways . Ideally a DSLR and macro is the way to go to up my game to the next level “if” I can find a way to use it
@@MyRetroWatches Aha I see! Maybe use an Elgato arm that is attached to the wall or the desk (they have both alternatives) to use the mobile phone in the air, not on a desk mount. About the video quality, what kbps do you upload?
@@Watcheyes I encode at 30,000
I’m looking at my DSLR now to see what I can do. Not used it in years and can’t even remember how to record😂. My phone will do 4K which I have done with success before. Setup just needs a minor tweak .
Ditching the blue mat for filming too as it’s playing havoc with colour editing.
@@MyRetroWatches UA-cam recommends 10,000 kpbs for fullHD (24 fps) so they might lower it if you go 30k kpbs, I'm no expert but I use 10k and I think it looks good. I see, yes setting everything up takes time and the lighting can be a pain :) Good look!
Awesome to see an old Timex getting some love.
Thanks. I’m pleased it can be used again and my first British watch, that runs anyway!
I found a timex while I was metal detecting the strap was rotten so I wound it up and it started to run I love timex.
Amazing! I’d love to do some metal detecting one day.
Great to see someone dedicating some of their time to these cheap "lost causes". They can't be that bad when they still tick along after more than sixty years without service and their quirky designs, as in this case, are often stunning.
Making a 20,000$ Rolex tick for 60 years is no big deal but a 10$ Timex, now, that's a performance! Luv'em!
Thanks. I am no watch snob. If I like it and its broken then I will fix it. This Timex had to be saved as the condition was too nice and the design so unusual.
Outstanding wonderful video of All time ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Well done Mike, cheap watches but very accurate.
I’ve been astonished by the accuracy. To think I had a nice one years ago and gave it away as it didn’t run!
They take a lickin'....... Timex movements like that are a miracle of production engineering, an important step in the democratisation of timekeeping before quartz. 👍
Thanks! I just followed your steps and took apart, cleaned and reasembled an old timex with a similar movement.
Glad it helped! hope the watch is running as a result.
I can attest that Timex made robust watches. In '73 I caught my arm in a boat prop, ripped it off right below the elbow. It took divers 2 days to recover that arm, but my Timex was still ticking right along. Obviously it had lost an hour in those two days, but after soaking it in a bucket of kerosene for a week it was like new. Took a while getting used to wearing it on my right wrist.
Amazing yet horrendous all at the same time. You lost an arm but saved your watch.
Which did you soak in kerosene - your arm or the watch? Just kidding. You should do a vid about it. The watch. 🙂
Beautiful - love the radial brush finishing to the case, well done !
I'm servicing my first Timex, a vintage original "Q" Time Machine, right now and yes, the crystal vise took a LOT of torque to reduce the crystal enough to be removed. It took everything I had. I was hoping your video would have that type of movement in it, which is a common layout for Timex, but it's different. The "Q" quartz has a balance that is not a wheel. It's more of a balance "Y", that is shaped like a slingshot, with coil sitting between the open part, and a crescent counterweight at the others side. Strange. Thanks for another great video. Cheers.
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Thanks Mike! I had this same movement fully apart and it was a bit of a struggle to get it back together, but it runs now. Wish I’d seen your video first.
I was thinking that getting a few cheap Timexes to start learning how to service and fix watches would be the best idea. But after watching this video I'm thinking that something cheap but with a proper movement held together with screws would be better. This video was super helpful. Thank you..!!!
HI Mike
When removing the crystal you could try removing the crown and stem - replacing the watch back and using a large syringe force air into the stem hole to blow the crystal out. I have used this method and it generally works.
Thanks . I’ve seen this done on an omega Dynamic before but never tried it. As the back is pressed on and not exactly right I don’t think this quality of watch would be air tight enough to hold the pressure needed.
Crystal is not even tension ring.
Your doing fine Mike bravo.
I want to give you a big thumbs up. I have one or two Timex with the same movement. They belong to my junk pile. I paid $10 for one and I regretted it when I opened the case. After watching your video, I want to tinker it just for the edcational experience. So thank you for showing how it can be serviced. I still wont buy another Timex though.
Amazing! Keeps good time and it's a looker with that new crystal.
Great Video I had timex watches as a youngster and it was cool to see you revive this little gem.
Thanks Jack
I've just started with Timex, and although they definitely have their pitfalls I do feel they are manageable. And they definitely have something about them.
And, unlike other watch fix videos, I do feel this is something that I, with my "rookie skills" could do.
Also, I did a Timex yesterday and it was very similar to yours! And it works now!
Unlike many other watch videos, I do not end it feeling overwhelmed! Thank YOU for giving me back confidence with my watch fixing ability!
Glad you enjoyed it. Any watch is worth fixing if you like it.
The funky surf music is bang on the money
Haha thanks
A great video Mike. Thanks for posting.
Well done Mike for taking this one on. I pulled apart a pin and lever watch and to be honest was a lot more challenging and frustrating than I was expecting. I might give it another go again just to practice. I did get it going again but not happy with it. Getting everything lined up with one plate for everything was a challenge, took plenty of patience and cursing.
Thank you. This is why I did not take it apart! Try again and you will be pleased with your work if you can achieve a full assembly
I love the idea of putting the watch parts in a jar with the lighter fluid and then putting the jar in the ultrasonic.
Awesome video!
Came across your You Tube channel this morning and couldn’t believe the watch you were working on. Back in the 1970’s my girlfriend (now my wife of 48 years) and I both had this identical watch. I think they came with a blue suede type strap. Brings back great memories of that era. Great video and Looking forward to watching your channel.
Nice watch, no useless extra bling and confusing extra dials, love that..
Thanks for doing a timex.I have one just sat there waiting to be looked at.
Keep up the videos they really are great 👍
you are welcome.
Wow. Impressive Mike. I've taken the back off a couple of old 60's Timexes that Dad left behind, looked at them for 3 or 4 nanoseconds and put the back back on. You've inspired me to give them another look. Maybe. One day. Could happen.
Damn! This is exactly the video I was looking for. I have 2 of these I would love to get working.
Great video, these movements got me started in watch repair. I still have loads of fun stripping the M24 and M25s and rebuilding them. The pallet pins, escape and balance pivots wear due to the lack of jewels but a hardy movement none the less.
I take my hat off to you Dave. To start your hobby on these would drive most people to failure and disillusion.
I usually tell any newbie to pick up Seikos or 15+ jewel hand winders as they will get better success quicker which gives them more encouragement.
I was thinking about these timex watches just last night, and you've done a video on one. I theorised they are an early attempt at what we know as a G Shock watch today, no jewls to shatter = more shock resistance, they didn't have the technology that we have today of course, and judging by the TV adverts on UA-cam they went hell for leather with them, my first watch was a timex but I wanted a casio quartz. A nostalgia trip back to my youth thank you.
Very good video Mike, thank you, I enjoyed watching it. I have a few Timex pieces in my rotation and all of them run great and keep excellent time. This showed me a few things I believe will be very helpful when I need to service the mechanical pieces I have.
Thanks.
Great job! Few things.. Crystal lift tip.. a few times I bent hands pulling a crystal that was too tight... if it's as tight as it can go and the crystal still won't come off, I use my largest screw driver to "very carefully" coax a couple teeth on the lift up until it comes off. As long as the lift is holding onto the crystal, it will help you pry it up.
Oiling that pesky v-conic staff.. After cleaning a Timex, I'll put a small piece of rodico on the side to hold the staff in place before taking the screw out to oil it. Makes it easier to line up when you put the screw back in.
Also, starting out on Timex for folks new to the hobby isn't really that bad an idea. I allows you to get confidence in removing dials, stems, crystals, and movements from cases, etc.. without worrying about damaging a better quality watch.
That was GREAT Mate, - The TIMEX is 'Water Resistant' too ..
Wow, I just started working on a similar Timex movement and this is very helpful. Front-loaders… 😰 Very validating to see that this is just a challenging watch to service any way you slice it
Came out really nice, congrats.
Great video. Thanks.
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Great restoration video as ever the timex watch has always been under rated in my opinion
Hard to say for me. They have their place. A cheap affordable throwaway time piece. Whether it was intentionally built to last or be as accurate from the drawing board I am not so sure. It was a fun project and this video seems to be well received, which is a relief as I thought id be shot down in flames for touching one of these.
Really enjoyed that and what a brilliant choice of fab music to finish with 👍
Thank you sir. Glad you enjoy the music I try to put something unusual in most of my videos. Not many comment or notice on it though 😂
Great to see. I've still got mine which my grandfather gave me for my 16th birthday just over 40 years ago. He was a market trader and sold them. It's still going strong.
That’s great to hear. I think many have had a Timex in their life , usually early on.
Awesome video!
Some interesting watch and some very very surprising results! Great video!
Thank you. The result was the most surprising part for me. Even such a low end movement can give performance .
Great Video Mike. Nice to see something different being serviced.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hello Mike, thanks for showing this wonferful Timex, I feel curiosity with this movement.
Congratulations for the work. Regards from Catalonia !!
This video was very helpful personally as I have recently acquired a few vintage Timex watches that are still ticking away and keeping pretty good time, but I know they need cleaning and oiling. I like the method you used on the video as the movements look pretty daunting to disassemble for a beginner like me. Thanks Mike.
Thank you Ross. Yes for a beginner don’t go taking them apart just do what I did and you should get results.
Nice video, I liked the Timex adventure. And great looking combo at the end!
Thanks for watching . Certainly an adventure this one!
Nice one Michael, good fun video. I also have difficulty with the Crystal lifter! And I have stripped and cleaned a few none jewel watches like this, but not timex. Keep em coming!
Thanks. From the comments on this video it seems you can go a lot further with the loft pressure to the point where the crystal should just drop off.
I will try this next time in a front loading video.
Cleaning the movement as a whole is great. You may be able to manually slip the fork onto the balance wheel.
Thanks for this video! I tried to service a Timex ONCE. And I made the mistake of taking it all apart. Ultimately I ruined the hairspring on the balance and decided it was time to try a different movement type (it was the first movement I tried to service, learned after I bought it about how tricky Timex is).
Thanks. I think this is the easiest way to service them especially as the barrel has no lid so you know all cleaning fluid will evaporate.
There is a video somewhere on YT where a guy completely serviced the movement in a full stripdown.
Brave guy.
Thanks for watching
Job well done, Mike. That's a result. So much for "unserviceable". You just blew that out of the water. Congrats sir.
Boil in the bag watch making! More fiddly getting the crystal on and off!
Well done 👍👍
We have expression in France, “ une révision à l’Américaine” which means à American style service, it comes from these watches that were suggested to be serviced without dismantling, it now mean a bad quality service,great vid!
Great job done, stay safe buddy
Very interesting and entertaining video - and indicates how even 'cheap and nasty' watches/models, made before the 'quartz crisis', were nonetheless of an admirable quality and durability. In other matters, good to see you back and I hope you're now fully recovered from covid.
Thank you. If you are into this hobby, in my view all watches are interesting from this Timex to a luxury brand. Its about the challenge for what is in front of you. I don't do watch snobbery. Fully recovered yes. thanks for your concern.
Loved watching your video. I do these all the time (I find it very satisfying) and it was fun watching you troubleshoot on the fly. You pretty much nailed it with the impulse pin as the problem. Once you got it in it should have started right up after a wind, For oiling you can access the pivots under the rocker and gear train through the conveniently placed holes without taking it all off. Similarly the pins on the pallet fork on the other side you can get to through the two conveniently placed holes.
Thanks for your feedback. i have another Timex on my bench somewhere that I might do the same service on and if I do I can now use your comment as a reference. Cheers.
Great video. I’m so jealous because a week ago I completely disassembled my vintage Timex and gave up on getting it back together. Two of the wheels came out of the ultrasound separated from their staffs. Staked them back on but apparently not exactly correct as they kept binding when I installed the plates. I wish I had seen your video first because keeping it mostly together for cleaning was brilliant. These watches were definitely not made to be serviced but you prevailed. Well done!
Thank you. There are a few in my Facebook group how can service them and they tell me its not that hard once you have done one or two. Like I said in the video though you would spend more time on these for less reward and possibly a bad outcome. It worth working on jewelled movements unless you are just up for the challenge!
Timex movements are meant to be serviced, according to the Timex service manuals. But it seems they were not meant to be run through an ultrasonic cleaner! Timex recommends running the assembled movement (after the ratchet wheel, keyless works, and balance wheel have been removed) through a standard watch cleaning machine, with all that space between the bearings and pivots, the cleaning solution can do a thorough job.
Great video, as always Mike. Particularly like your choice of strap! 👍
Glad you like it!
A while since I did one of these, but you did the right thing not stripping it, I had hours of frustrating fun getting the thing back together....never again! Haha.
Thanks Philip. I had done some pin pallets previously and never again. All the members oft Facebook group take the pee saying the BG866 movement is my favourite!
Like I mention in the video I think time and enjoyment is better spent on a jewelled movement. Ones like these if taken to pieces would just frustrate many. It’s a challenge but I feel for the more experienced amongst us.
Really enjoyed this one, nice to see different things 👍 and I have a couple of timex myself, not sure why but I do like them
Timex have their place. I have 2 more in the drawer of projects that maybe now I will get fired up again.
Good to see you back.
Thanks
I've worked on a few of these as well as Ingersoll pocket watches which are similar. Cheap little things but good practice. And teaching us the various ways of a watch.
Thanks for watching Brian. I don’t normally work on pin pallets as they can be frustrating but could not pass this one up when I seen it in the junk pile at a watch fair. Cleaned up very well in the end.
@@MyRetroWatches for sure. The case was scuffed up but in good condition. Many of the base metal cases are too far gone when I see them.
Cool litle watch you have there ;) Some of those Timex looks god to . God video ;)
In the immortal words of the American television advertising of my youth, “It takes a licking and keeps on ticking!”
Fabulous Mike!
Thanks Nick. I can now do that blue one you sent me months ago.
Hello again Mike, recently i have done a few Sekonda's with Poljot 2614.2 H they're nice movements well made,a. Rekata 2609 HA the 2nd wheel was jeweld for the seconds, a lovely 21j A Schild 984 that has small seconds n time, old no shock protection but 7 or more jeweled plates for oil retention, loved fixing that one, was very worn, was hammer time, a few NH 3 series movements and an Eta 2472, love it all mostly all anyway, thank you for the videos Mike. Dave.
Thanks. I’m planning a Sekonda video soon. I have a great one to do. This is such a great hobby. Keep at it Dave
Thanks for doing it so we don't have to. Great video!
Hahah. Brilliant
Nice revival of that 1971 Timex Marlin Calendar.
I have worked on a number of Timex movements from '50's M21's to the '70's quartz M64's. This is probably the best method, here, what has been demonstrated. The "official" procedure includes removing the balance wheel, but I would not recommend it, as the pinned-in hairspring is very horrendous to not only remove, but to pin back in without damage to the hairspring. Yes, the lower V-conic balance pivot bearing is tough to oil, but it's better than a damaged hairspring!
Great video!!!
Thank you for watching and your complement. My first time inside one of these too. This one needed to be saved!
I disagree! I take out the balance wheel, it's easier than dealing with the vintage non-shock balance wheels I usually work with. After that, cleaning and oiling the lower balance bearing is easy,
Makes me want to jump into my Olds Tornado and take a ride! Great video !!
Thanks
Brilliant video. Of course a full overhaul on a $10 watch isn't actually practical, but as an academic exercise it's, well, brillant!
Put an old strap on when using the crystal lift, you will have more to hold onto
Thanks for this. Makes complete sense
Well done Mike !
Thank you sir!
Great to see the odd mistake being made .. lovely watch 👏🏻👏🏻
Made at Hillend, Dundee Scotland. If it was made before 1979 then my Dad, machinist, Foreman, probably had something to do with it. Awesome video, thank you. Makes me wonder if my Dad actually made some of those parts. My Mum also worked there. Thanks again
Thanks. Thats a great family connection you have there. I can only wonder if you parents ever wondered if these little watches would still be running 50 years on.
Omega, Are you still in the hillend area? Would love to acquire a timex assembly jig from any of the timex veterans there.
@@tracyhendenshott7119 No I live in the States now. Don't think we brought anything Timex related with us. What's your interest if you don't mind me asking.
@@omegadun66 Hoping to ease the process of servicing these timex. So many people have such powerful family memories with these. The pressure plates make it so most don't even want to work on them.
Really nice Work Mike👍👍
Thanks for watching.
Great challenge
Nice roll.
For those fold over tabs, use fingernail clippers. Toenail clippers for the bigger ones. I fix Poynter toys & Thing banks, and they have these tabs in lieu of screws. An old set of fingernail clippers are perfect for bending them up.
Ive just dunked an m25 in cleaning fluid and put it in an ultrasonic cleaning machine, oiled it a bit where I could and it runs.. horribly...you've given me the courage to maybe try to fully service it as you've had the balls to...if I'm feeling masochistic haha
Most impressive !....How you proceeded with as much care and professionalism as you might on a Rolex.
Thank you.
Really entertaining that Mike, thanks mate, D5 and 9010 & grease perhaps, thanks for the videos Michael, really enjoying them Dave from North West. 👍🤝 ps that trase is normal for one if those.