pexeq The concert from 2010 was at Zepp Tokyo, the concert from 2016 was also Zepp Tokyo, but they used (basically) the same setlist in America this year too, without Ai Kotoba in the setlist though
Andrew B. It's Miku Expo, alright. I thought that was an international thing but they also have Miku Expo in Japan and use the same stage design, I just got confused.
The module isn't strictly the same, look at the shape of the hair and size of the hands. It's the Arcade ver 2 model which changed the tone and overall shading.
The solidity has a lot to do now with the choice of 'pigments' i believe. As well as the chosen position of the projectors on the stage: 2010 had them right on the floor centered, whereas 2016 had them either at the upper corners of the screen or from directly above
wtf are you talking about she looks the same but with better projection, updated graphics, anti aliasing, and smoother model and better color accuracy and more concert-worthy
what's funny is that basing off her canon age currently (16 years old)... taking that and moving it to when she was originally released (August 31st 2007) and adding the amount of years she's been around (9 years). if Miku was a real person she'd be 25 years old.... WOW
Lia the Grey wolf Miku has been that famous for around a decade already..... 😱 Tryinv to be the number one popstar in America too? Seriously, Miku, thats enough.
Endy Gamez She's not even real. She's not a robot either. How many times I have been pissed off about people saying she's a robot, anime, or hologram? She is a program, a vocal, with an official human design....
So much improvement. I was at Miku Expo NY in 2014 and 2016 and she looks so realistic on stage. I remember having to shake my boyfriend's glowstick for him because he was so amazed with the animation quality that he was in a trance.
So many people defending the 2010 version. I get it, it's a classic or something but it was pretty bad. "It looked more fluid back then" umm If you say that then I think you need an eye check because the projectors they used weren't as good as they are now. They were really bright, had bad contrast, bad colors, and horrible frame rate. In 2016 you can see how fluid it has really become and I can admit she does look like a plastic model but she doesn't have robot movement like she does in 2010.
Epic Replays I'm sorry to say but Miku's model and animation didn't change at all in those years . Sega did last year an update for her hair clothes flow. Other then that its the same thing. The projectors improved so much tho. Like she doesnt have a green face . And maybe the fps display of her projection but i can't be sure on that.And the shader was improved. All you see here is miku renders from het project diva arcade engine
that weird moment when even in 39 concert and the 2nd major concert , where was it saitama or yokohama? forgot, but luka was doing her usual dance and as a viewer it was like wait...did i just see what I thought I just saw? holy ......she's 21 right? ...she's jp right??? At that time I was roughly of 20's, now I'm mid...feeling a lil old...
I first saw Miku on a Toyota ad for the new Corolla, before the first Los Angeles concert. When I saw the ad, with its clip of a live concert, I thought to myself: "Wow. Wouldn't it be great if they really could do such live concerts. That's amazing." Then, with a little searching, I was stunned to learn that the Vocaloids had been performing like this in Japan for years already! When I saw this concert on UA-cam, it was still like magic. I could hardly believe it. I was living in the future! The models and projection, the physics of the clothes and hair, the coordination with the live musicians and technicians; these all showed me a new world. The energy and clear adoration of her fans was so great and genuine. Like magic. I was spellbound, even then.
Daniel Kim well I mean...it's not exactly the future...it's just a really good animation being projected onto glass....it's like the smart boards we have at schools instead of white boards and black boards, it's just a projector from a computer...
And I believe that is Deco*27 playing lead guitar in the 2010 version of Ai Kotoba! In Chicago Miku Expo 2016 we got to see HachioujiP perform with the Miku and the Band his Blue Star! Amazing fun.
Maybe at 2020, we will finally get to see her without a hologram, like another individual. *EDIT:* You know? _Maybe not 2020, but some day in the future for sure!_
Hmm...well, if technology improves at the rate it has been, emotion responses will have been perfected by about 2025, and there are robots who can learn, like the robot they programmed to play Go, so, with biological system analogues like metal "brains" being worked on, with emotion responses and the ability of robots to actually learn based on long term planning, and with AI becoming more complex, we could soon order our very own Vocaloids and have them shipped to us. Actual physical Vocaloids. OMG. I WANT MY MIKU. Or Mayu. OR BOTH! Yep...I want both.
If I remember correctly, the 2010 concert was running at 30fps (that's why she blurs when she moves left to right) and that was the time Project Diva Arcade was two months released before the 2010 concert, so they didn't really expect much other than it became a great success.
i just got back from magical mirai and before that miku expo in seattle and la, the models now are phenomenal and its a freaking trip. No matter where you sit its so real looking its insane. I found if you actually wear sunglasses it mutes out some of the glowsticks too so you just see miku, craziness
I love how she looks so much more solid and less pale, also the physics and the screen look so much better! I love the 2010 performance as well, but I'm so happy to see Miku's improvements throughout the years~
Back ground music changed a little... One thing changed the most is the visual quality...the old one seems a little bit washed out... But who cares...Miku is lit!
*cries I remember that 2010 concert very well. My friends and I was obsessed with Miku and vocaloids, we even had role-play group and we use the dance in the concert to make our own concert. TwT how time flies. but Hatsune Miku will continue to bring happiness in her songs.
1:99 the charm of this performance is the clapping in that mid silence between singing, it felt like the clapping was a part of the soundtrack which added a certain charm to it. (in the 2010 vers of the recorded live performance, which i got that BD..)
This is her original V2 design (model). The video shows how much projectors have evolved since 2010, not how she looked like back then vs. how her V4x model looks like.
Somehow she looks more mysterious at 2010 version. More "shining" and digital-like. Like she wasn't from this world (like she actually isn't). But both are good :)
What I like about the old ones is that they pop out and they stay on the stage and perform the next music. making it more realistic than just appearing out of nowhere and disappear
What's noticeable is also the music and crowd comparison. Back in the 2010 concert the crowd didn't do any of the "ooooooi....hey!" or shout "baka" as loudly. The clear backing vocal quality is a nice addition, as well. I personally think it made the whole experience better, especially if there are any long-term fans somewhere in the crowd. And I'm saddened by the fact I can tell which concert by audio specifically for this song *I'M SUCH AN OLD WEEB*
I love the improvement, but miku always same for me, i like her since im 13 y.o, and now im 19 y.o, but miku always stuck in 17 y.o, idk why they made her age stuck like that, what i know was miku always taking a part in my life with her music thats inspire me going through this life
Aaron R It might be possible, but at the cost of your health. They will have to crop dust the entire concert hall with thick, harmful air chemicals just to make her come to life.
The animation on 2016 is definitely better than 2010 but you cant deny that the audiences energy on 2010 live concert is much higher and crazier than 2016!
It’s Miku Expo 2016 Japan Tour, but it gets deleted very often because the camera crew that recorded the concert (WoWoW) is VERY strict when it comes to copyright, so you can only really see it on BiliBili (basically the Japanese UA-cam)
Do you know where I can buy a copy? UPC, ASIN, or any other number that might allow me to purchase this set? Also is the Zepp Tokyo footage from the 2010 concert? I was interested in the 2016 footage. Thanks!
Was actually looking for this very type of thing- thanks a lot! Hopefully I can catch this show when I'm in Tokyo this coming April ...this and Baby Metal...gotta see
Long Nguyễn Vũ Miku is being projected onto a large piece of glass and they want to be able to use all of it, they don't want Miku shining on the band on accident
It's incredible to see just how well technology has progressed. Hatsune Miku is truely a fantasic development both for music and for technology and I'm sure this and many other reasons is why she is loved across the world.
The 2016 one seems more realistic then the 2010 one,also you can see Hatsune Miku better instead of the bright 2010 version, and finally is it just me or does her singing seem more realistic and has more feeling into her songs then 2010?
the 2010 model looks better imo welp, her face looks weird in the 2016 one But really, for 2010, it looks really amazing. The movements are just as fluent. They only did minor fixes on the model (camera quality improved ofc) and the legs look more solid. Maybe someday we'll actually see fluent 3d models, who knows.
2010 definitely wins in my opinion. The model looks much more detailed with reflections on her outfit and in the eyes. The 2016 model feels like they pushed it closer to cartoon and abandoned the lighting and model elements that made her feel more realistic.
Wow! Great job!! As far as I can see, some improvements were done by adding more shadow, changing the projector's location, probably changing it to a better one (deals better with luminosity), and using a bigger screen (and perhaps made with a different material). i can only imagine how she will look in 2020.
If your wondering, she still looks the same XD also both glass walls of 2010 and 2016 are made with the same kind of glass, tint. Only difference is that 2016's screen is taller since they always play the intense voice in the days of the mikupa series, they had to make a new glass wall so they dont have to bring a separate screen to display her flying.
When 2010 Miku walked from one side of the stage to the other it would completely blur *-* they adjust the brightness of colours and her self, also not to mention when they do close ups of the old Miku, you can literally see pixels. She's improved so much. She has realistic colouring and clearly it's running at at least 60fps. Yay!!!!
la diferencia esta en su falda que ahor ano esta tan abierta e sus piernas no son tan separadas como en 2010, tambien sucabello tiene una forma diferente
Para mi, es el mismo modelo. Solo se ve mejor, por la mejor calidad de los proyectores. Este modelo es el Dreamy Theater, que usaban en los Giving day. Pero ya esta descontinuado. Es una lastima, porque este modelo me gusta mas que el Diva F que usan actualmente. Solo tendrian que actualizarlo un poco.
It seems that the projection point changed from bottom to the top of the screen. And I can see that there is no more that strange conflict when 2 models need to cross in front of each other, plus some hair movement bugs.
Honestly can't tell what's more impressive: the skill the artists have in the music the write for Miku or the technical capabilities and the advancements
wow compared to the 2010 version she looks so realistic now?? I never realized how how much better the projections have gotten, I still think of the 2010 ones when I think about the live concerts lol. makes me want to go to one even MORE now
The 2 Miku’s appear the same. Yes. However they are different in lighting, Color use, and Hair width. The 2010 Miku Model does not contain much catch onto the actual hair model due to the light source on the stage. The 2016 Miku Operates the lights properly and Erases Pixel lines.
What made this live version different from the studio version is the fact that the backing vocals are redone using Miku's vocals. The original backing vocals were done by a real singer, and you can hear this quite easily if you listen to the instrumental version of this song from the Project Diva games.
![Hatsune Miku - MELT [Live] 1080HD](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FoTd918zhZc/mqdefault.jpg)
![Hatsune Miku - MELT [Live] 1080HD](/img/tr.png)
![[60fps Full] shake it! シェイクイット! - Hatsune Miku Rin Len 初音ミク 鏡音リン レン DIVA English Romaji PDA FT](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gW2u1UQMut0/mqdefault.jpg)
Nice, the fact that both of these performances were performed on the same stage makes it even more special
They were both on the same stage?? Oh my god I had no idea and i'm actually crying
+Nerurumi Yeah, (at least it was at the same venue, Zepp Tokyo, looks like the exact same stage/concert hall though) so nostalgic omg
Isn't the left one in USA and the right one in Japan? And if the left isn't in USA, which concert is it from?
pexeq The concert from 2010 was at Zepp Tokyo, the concert from 2016 was also Zepp Tokyo, but they used (basically) the same setlist in America this year too, without Ai Kotoba in the setlist though
Andrew B. It's Miku Expo, alright. I thought that was an international thing but they also have Miku Expo in Japan and use the same stage design, I just got confused.
I love how solid the models look now!
yay! and with a resolution much better
It's actually the same module, The only difference is the projector, it is now more high quality.
The module isn't strictly the same, look at the shape of the hair and size of the hands. It's the Arcade ver 2 model which changed the tone and overall shading.
Ohh yeah you're right there are some small differences.
The solidity has a lot to do now with the choice of 'pigments' i believe. As well as the chosen position of the projectors on the stage: 2010 had them right on the floor centered, whereas 2016 had them either at the upper corners of the screen or from directly above
She looks better when you see her at a concert
Mizuki- San She looks amazing on stage and when you're actually there watching her it's 👌👌👌
Yes, I went to one of those concerts (they are amazing) Miku's hair looks real and she moves like a real pearson.(sorry for my terrible english)
heck Yeah i was at the front amazing she looks stunning
*DAMN ALL OF YOU!* I will make it to one of the concerts!... Some day... Once they get to Australia... In the next 50 years...
Crystal Soul-Eater wel actually they are coming to Australia in 2017
Remember when we thought the 2010 one was beautiful? It's so much better now!
It is worse
Kanade Akane
How is it worse?
Not as pretty as the old one
wtf are you talking about she looks the same but with better projection, updated graphics, anti aliasing, and smoother model and better color accuracy and more concert-worthy
leinadyon exactly. So much better.
what's funny is that basing off her canon age currently (16 years old)... taking that and moving it to when she was originally released (August 31st 2007) and adding the amount of years she's been around (9 years).
if Miku was a real person she'd be 25 years old.... WOW
Lia the Grey wolf omg you actually make me think about it and its been 9 years being obsessed over her
Lia the Grey wolf
Miku has been that famous for around a decade already..... 😱
Tryinv to be the number one popstar in America too?
Seriously, Miku, thats enough.
Connie Ma She can't try, shes a robot :v
Endy Gamez
She's not even real. She's not a robot either.
How many times I have been pissed off about people saying she's a robot, anime, or hologram?
She is a program, a vocal, with an official human design....
Connie Ma LMAO its sarcasm, I know vocaloid is a voice synthetic program, and yeah she COULD have a human design, wish she was real ;-;
So much improvement. I was at Miku Expo NY in 2014 and 2016 and she looks so realistic on stage. I remember having to shake my boyfriend's glowstick for him because he was so amazed with the animation quality that he was in a trance.
Megan K. 😂 wish i had a bf like that
So many people defending the 2010 version. I get it, it's a classic or something but it was pretty bad. "It looked more fluid back then" umm If you say that then I think you need an eye check because the projectors they used weren't as good as they are now. They were really bright, had bad contrast, bad colors, and horrible frame rate. In 2016 you can see how fluid it has really become and I can admit she does look like a plastic model but she doesn't have robot movement like she does in 2010.
Tldr: I'm just saying they're using better equipment now than before
Epic Replays I see...thank you for the info btw I also noticed that the miku back in 2010 was a little brighter too
Epic Replays tbh I don't think the video helps, I don't know but I don't think miku's fps on stage is 30 (anybody correct me if I'm wrong!)
Well you would either need someone who went to their concerts or you go to one of them to confirm it since the video is only @30 fps instead of 60.
Epic Replays I'm sorry to say but Miku's model and animation didn't change at all in those years . Sega did last year an update for her hair clothes flow. Other then that its the same thing. The projectors improved so much tho. Like she doesnt have a green face . And maybe the fps display of her projection but i can't be sure on that.And the shader was improved. All you see here is miku renders from het project diva arcade engine
She's all grown up :,)
huh?
lol
roachsuit Watching them grow up is what makes it worth while X'D
that weird moment when even in 39 concert and the 2nd major concert , where was it saitama or yokohama? forgot, but luka was doing her usual dance and as a viewer it was like
wait...did i just see what I thought I just saw?
holy ......she's 21 right? ...she's jp right???
At that time I was roughly of 20's, now I'm mid...feeling a lil old...
atleast thats how we see it
It's funny but also so amazing the crowd that yells: "BAKA".
I first saw Miku on a Toyota ad for the new Corolla, before the first Los Angeles concert. When I saw the ad, with its clip of a live concert, I thought to myself: "Wow. Wouldn't it be great if they really could do such live concerts. That's amazing." Then, with a little searching, I was stunned to learn that the Vocaloids had been performing like this in Japan for years already! When I saw this concert on UA-cam, it was still like magic. I could hardly believe it. I was living in the future!
The models and projection, the physics of the clothes and hair, the coordination with the live musicians and technicians; these all showed me a new world. The energy and clear adoration of her fans was so great and genuine. Like magic. I was spellbound, even then.
Daniel Kim
well I mean...it's not exactly the future...it's just a really good animation being projected onto glass....it's like the smart boards we have at schools instead of white boards and black boards, it's just a projector from a computer...
0:02
On the downer left corner you could see a glowstick shaped like a leek
Or is it a leek shaped like a glow stick...?!
No one will ever know. 😂
Ainsley Culp
No one indeed
Nikka Sama it does actually (♡_♡)
A genetically engineered glowing leek?
Glow leek!
And I believe that is Deco*27 playing lead guitar in the 2010 version of Ai Kotoba! In Chicago Miku Expo 2016 we got to see HachioujiP perform with the Miku and the Band his Blue Star! Amazing fun.
Maybe at 2020, we will finally get to see her without a hologram, like another individual.
*EDIT:* You know? _Maybe not 2020, but some day in the future for sure!_
maybe at 2020 she will be a hologram with a mass and maybe a hole perhaps
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Yes bby
I think she should be in the Olympics at Tokyo by then, a Miku concert on the Olympics! ...... I don't know..
I am your senpai.
You couldve seen IA and SeeU concerts....
Hmm...well, if technology improves at the rate it has been, emotion responses will have been perfected by about 2025, and there are robots who can learn, like the robot they programmed to play Go, so, with biological system analogues like metal "brains" being worked on, with emotion responses and the ability of robots to actually learn based on long term planning, and with AI becoming more complex, we could soon order our very own Vocaloids and have them shipped to us. Actual physical Vocaloids. OMG. I WANT MY MIKU. Or Mayu. OR BOTH! Yep...I want both.
Incomparable both are good, i love em both
하츠네 미쿠 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
They have improved graphical technics a lot but Miku herself looks almost same as 6 years ago. How old is she now?
she still 16, and forever 16 till end the time.
Kogenta Asama
Her official age is 16. If she were a actual human, she wouldve been 26
+Connie Ma mirai nikki :v
In some of the birthday tribute videos, they list her age as 16+. As in "16 + 9". I think it's kind of sweet.
Kogenta Asama her software has been released in 9 years ago, but her character itself is 16
If I remember correctly, the 2010 concert was running at 30fps (that's why she blurs when she moves left to right) and that was the time Project Diva Arcade was two months released before the 2010 concert, so they didn't really expect much other than it became a great success.
i just got back from magical mirai and before that miku expo in seattle and la, the models now are phenomenal and its a freaking trip. No matter where you sit its so real looking its insane. I found if you actually wear sunglasses it mutes out some of the glowsticks too so you just see miku, craziness
I find both of them really pretty. 😍 But 2016 looks much better.
yaaay! X#D
Considering that technology has advanced it is prety obvious.
Blazi Neko YES ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍❤️❤️❤️😍❤️😍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@oxcgen2 link 2016 please😁😁😁
I'm still mad that they didn't play this at the NA tour
ikr
Same, I was really hoping for it!!
Star Catcher NA LA was amazing sad they didn't play this song though.
映像技術ってすごいなあ…
I really love the 2016 version. When Miku moves in the 2010 version it gets blurry
2010有作者DECO*27上場，而且那時的氛圍比較好
時代が違く手も盛り上がり方は一緒なんやなって
I love how she looks so much more solid and less pale, also the physics and the screen look so much better! I love the 2010 performance as well, but I'm so happy to see Miku's improvements throughout the years~
2010:Dreamy theatre model. 30fps- looks greeny
2016:Arcade FT model. 60fps-+ looks solid, no blurring when running
正直、2010年の方が～今でも好きですな～2010のコンサート映像を初めて見た時の「なにこれ？」な感覚に勝つのは難しい気がしてしまいます。ミクさんに新たなる本質的なブレイクスルーがあると良いなと思います～まぁ、なにわともあれミクさんはネットで語り継がれるかもね～な気がしてます
No matter when or how, she was always and is still cute and always will be. Agree?
I love how the projector isn't right behind her, she's not so shiny and fuzzy now. It's way better quality.
Omg I didn't notice the change
Up until now
Back ground music changed a little...
One thing changed the most is the visual quality...the old one seems a little bit washed out...
But who cares...Miku is lit!
1:55 everyone screaming Baka 😔
i love miku 2010 and 2016 😍😍😍😍😍😘😘😘
Anime Là Cuộc Sống 👍👍👍
*cries
I remember that 2010 concert very well. My friends and I was obsessed with Miku and vocaloids, we even had role-play group and we use the dance in the concert to make our own concert. TwT how time flies. but Hatsune Miku will continue to bring happiness in her songs.
ミクがどうのこうのよりもファンが初期設定(ミクがネギ好き)みたいな事を忘れちゃっててツライ。
まぁ時代の流れだよね、分かるんだけどさ...なんか寂しい。
ゆあ。 ミクがねぎ好きなのは公式設定ではないと思いますけど。
@@ミルクティー-b8r さん クリプトン社が、公序良俗に反しない限り、が基本だったので自由でしたな～常識レベルで自由な雰囲気な世界ででしたな～楽しかったよ。
ネギが好きでも問題ないしよ～楽しみましょう、輪になって踊りましょう～な世界でしたな～あの時代は
That is why I love japan °^°
I wish Sega would use Future Tone Modules more often. You can see how much they've improved.
I love that the fans are organized and chant along to the beat, while moving the glow sticks to the rhythm.
2010 or 2016 SO WHAT!!!!!! she always make me happy when listening many song, my angle from future are the one !!
1:99 the charm of this performance is the clapping in that mid silence between singing, it felt like the clapping was a part of the soundtrack which added a certain charm to it. (in the 2010 vers of the recorded live performance, which i got that BD..)
Does anyone else realize that they literally both look almost exactly the same? T~T
The actual 2016 Miku is much more updated
This is her original V2 design (model). The video shows how much projectors have evolved since 2010, not how she looked like back then vs. how her V4x model looks like.
Makishima Miki I'm not really talking about her designs either..
Syazwan MMD I'm not trying to be rude, so I don't see why you should be.
2010年のものは今見ると解像度が低いし動きも少しぎこちない。ディスプレイも小さいから自由に動き回ることもできない。それでも当時ステージで歌って踊るミクを見たときは涙が出るほど感動したもんだ。すごく懐かしい
あなたは2010年のショーで存在していましたか？
あなたは今、私はここブラジルで多くのプレゼンテーションを期待し、どのように幸運がわかりません
Somehow she looks more mysterious at 2010 version. More "shining" and digital-like. Like she wasn't from this world (like she actually isn't). But both are good :)
What I like about the old ones is that they pop out and they stay on the stage and perform the next music. making it more realistic than just appearing out of nowhere and disappear
Its funny that they repeated "Baka" for like 3 times 😂😂
What's noticeable is also the music and crowd comparison. Back in the 2010 concert the crowd didn't do any of the "ooooooi....hey!" or shout "baka" as loudly. The clear backing vocal quality is a nice addition, as well. I personally think it made the whole experience better, especially if there are any long-term fans somewhere in the crowd.
And I'm saddened by the fact I can tell which concert by audio specifically for this song *I'M SUCH AN OLD WEEB*
They made the shadows and graphics better! :D
yuup :333
I love the improvement, but miku always same for me, i like her since im 13 y.o, and now im 19 y.o, but miku always stuck in 17 y.o, idk why they made her age stuck like that, what i know was miku always taking a part in my life with her music thats inspire me going through this life
This model is the best one, I think the most accurate at least, I really dislike the other ones.
CGの技術上がったとか色合いとか色々あるけど。
何よりファンは何年経っても好きでいるというところに感動。
6年経ってもファンの情熱は変わってないのね
we don't even see the projector shoots the glass in 2016. holy shit is hologram technology is gonna be real?
KoeSeer 2010's projector is at the bottom, 2016's projector is at the top I noticed it
Isabella Rivera т
wait till they make holograms that can be touched and uses air as a medium... oh wait they already have. but its not good enough to project miku...
Aaron R soon.....maybe another 6-10 years
Aaron R It might be possible, but at the cost of your health. They will have to crop dust the entire concert hall with thick, harmful air chemicals just to make her come to life.
2017年12月、誰か聞いている？hatsune miku が大好きです。
ベトナムから ^^
from the graphics wise.. right is the ps2 while the left is the ps4 version.. 😂
The difference is incredible and that was 4 years ago, I love another comparison of then and now.
The animation on 2016 is definitely better than 2010 but you cant deny that the audiences energy on 2010 live concert is much higher and crazier than 2016!
It's getting smoother, the color is more clearly, just like real human!! Love it
Miku looks to realistic now!
anyone know where to find the original video for 2016 concert? i saw it few years back but it seems got deleted
Miku expo tokyo 2016
It’s Miku Expo 2016 Japan Tour, but it gets deleted very often because the camera crew that recorded the concert (WoWoW) is VERY strict when it comes to copyright, so you can only really see it on BiliBili (basically the Japanese UA-cam)
Where is the 2016 footage from? is this something that will be released on Blu-Ray?
This is the bluray version of the presentation at Zepp Tokyo
Do you know where I can buy a copy? UPC, ASIN, or any other number that might allow me to purchase this set?
Also is the Zepp Tokyo footage from the 2010 concert? I was interested in the 2016 footage.
Thanks!
I have the link to the torrent mkv, you want?
Yeah, so I can track down the original Blu-Ray, anything will help.
Can I get it too please?
It's amazing how great she looks now! I went to her concert in Toronto and it was so life-like, it was very cool!
I can see the difference!
Was actually looking for this very type of thing- thanks a lot! Hopefully I can catch this show when I'm in Tokyo this coming April ...this and Baby Metal...gotta see
just wish the band stand closer to Miku-chan. That will make the show more real like Miku really sing infront of us
Long Nguyễn Vũ Miku is being projected onto a large piece of glass and they want to be able to use all of it, they don't want Miku shining on the band on accident
they did that for magical mirai!!!
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It's incredible to see just how well technology has progressed. Hatsune Miku is truely a fantasic development both for music and for technology and I'm sure this and many other reasons is why she is loved across the world.
The 2016 one seems more realistic then the 2010 one,also you can see Hatsune Miku better instead of the bright 2010 version, and finally is it just me or does her singing seem more realistic and has more feeling into her songs then 2010?
I think both are amazing. The newer one looks more solid but the original was so advanced for its time
2010 is the classic tho so I like it :P
I agree
They're the same? 2016 is just more improved to make it look like Miku is actually there.
I couldent agree with you more
HeyItsRin hello rin
memester Not exactly.
2010 Miku will always have a special place in my heart.
the 2010 model looks better imo welp, her face looks weird in the 2016 one
But really, for 2010, it looks really amazing. The movements are just as fluent. They only did minor fixes on the model (camera quality improved ofc) and the legs look more solid. Maybe someday we'll actually see fluent 3d models, who knows.
Finally someone who thinks the same as I do! 2010 models were the best and prettiest ones!
Back in 2010 they used Arcade's model whereas in 2016 they used Future Tone's model.
SpikeyMikey Both belong to project diva doesn't they?
Kanade Akane
2010 definitely wins in my opinion. The model looks much more detailed with reflections on her outfit and in the eyes. The 2016 model feels like they pushed it closer to cartoon and abandoned the lighting and model elements that made her feel more realistic.
Wow! Great job!! As far as I can see, some improvements were done by adding more shadow, changing the projector's location, probably changing it to a better one (deals better with luminosity), and using a bigger screen (and perhaps made with a different material).
i can only imagine how she will look in 2020.
miku real 3D hologram, 8k projection (?
If your wondering, she still looks the same XD
also both glass walls of 2010 and 2016 are made with the same kind of glass, tint. Only difference is that 2016's screen is taller since they always play the intense voice in the days of the mikupa series, they had to make a new glass wall so they dont have to bring a separate screen to display her flying.
Oh my stars imagine what 2020 will look like 😱✨ 💖
When 2010 Miku walked from one side of the stage to the other it would completely blur *-* they adjust the brightness of colours and her self, also not to mention when they do close ups of the old Miku, you can literally see pixels. She's improved so much. She has realistic colouring and clearly it's running at at least 60fps. Yay!!!!
and miku is the first anime super star with using hologram
Not first. Not anime. Not hologram.
tjhiw yu
The following vocaloids are made BEFORE Miku:
Leon
Lola
Miriam
Meiko
Kaito
Connie Ma also Sweet Ann was released before Miku.
Karlos F
Oh. Didnt realize.
Thx
I love the song so much as well as the current models! (Ai Kotoba is one of my favorites.)
Sou muito fã dela rsrs ><
como que bajo de peso xD o se iso mas alta :v o que en 2010 tenia mucha radiacion xD
la diferencia esta en su falda que ahor ano esta tan abierta e sus piernas no son tan separadas como en 2010, tambien sucabello tiene una forma diferente
y el color en 2010 era muuuuy verde y en 2016 es mas celeste ke verde y se ve mas real :y
o que estaba mas caderona
pero la verdad yo la veo igual
Para mi, es el mismo modelo. Solo se ve mejor, por la mejor calidad de los proyectores.
Este modelo es el Dreamy Theater, que usaban en los Giving day. Pero ya esta descontinuado.
Es una lastima, porque este modelo me gusta mas que el Diva F que usan actualmente. Solo tendrian que actualizarlo un poco.
It seems that the projection point changed from bottom to the top of the screen. And I can see that there is no more that strange conflict when 2 models need to cross in front of each other, plus some hair movement bugs.
I dont like concert at all but i might go for miku concert
Ever increasing improvement. I was so impressed with the first concert, and the 2016 version was even better.
I like the old Miku module better
Holy heck she's improved so much. I'm here trying not to cry while I'm on the bus watching this ;;
Miku 2010!!!
I love how many more glowsticks there are in the 2016 video
In 2010, the light can shine through Miku. But in 2016, the light can't even shine through Miku at all. So I think 2016 is better than 2010.
The light is shining above her cough cougj
Honestly can't tell what's more impressive: the skill the artists have in the music the write for Miku or the technical capabilities and the advancements
la de ahora se ve más real así que esa
yup, tuvo mejoras en la fisica del cabello tambien
The original still hits me harder, but I love that she has a mix now.
Half of the live idol experience comes form the wota.
They made her look less realistic in 2016. WHY? We're supposed to evolve people!
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wow compared to the 2010 version she looks so realistic now?? I never realized how how much better the projections have gotten, I still think of the 2010 ones when I think about the live concerts lol. makes me want to go to one even MORE now
こんなに愛おしい彼女の元で応援できて世界観や曲に触れることができて最高。
1:35 the venue is so small that I saw the guy who was the only one who cheered for a sec lol-
the movements look more natural now and the models look more solid as if you can touch them.
色が鮮やかに、ミクがはっきり視認できるようになってる。かわいい。
猫ララ これなら今年の紅白出せるねなんかヒット曲出ないかな
To think that in 2010 they had that technology is amazing but to see how much it evolved in 6 years thats just mind blowing
俺この愛言葉の曲を
実際に2016コンサートで聞いて
泣きながら応援していました。
愛言葉の曲が流れ始めてから
涙を抑えきれずにはいられなかった
The 2 Miku’s appear the same. Yes. However they are different in lighting, Color use, and Hair width.
The 2010 Miku Model does not contain much catch onto the actual hair model due to the light source on the stage.
The 2016 Miku Operates the lights properly and Erases Pixel lines.
What made this live version different from the studio version is the fact that the backing vocals are redone using Miku's vocals. The original backing vocals were done by a real singer, and you can hear this quite easily if you listen to the instrumental version of this song from the Project Diva games.
Watching waifu grow
Literally no matter what she looks like or what she wears or even what she sings... SHE IS STILL EVERYTHING
The next stage is to make realistic models, and then they'll finally look like there's an actual person there
技術の進化すごいなと感じさせる動画ですね。10年後とかにはミクさんに触れるようになりそう
Holy crap it's been 6 years!? oh my goodness
Deja Noel she's been around in 2007-today