Fortnite’s Battle Pass Exclusivity Problem (And How I’d Fix It)
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"No, that is Not Solid Snake!"
What?
Uh, it actually is.
@frogg9057 nah its venom snake
@@frogg9057uh, it's actually venom snake🤓
@@uninspiredghostthats nit solid snake, thats hard spider💀
Replacement skins make the situation even worse because you get constantly reminded of missing out on the skins original version
you problem tbh
Depends tbh, some of the replacements being the ACTUAL original design would be awesome, i couldn't care one bit on missing out Deadpool since the new one that came to the shop is way better
@@adambrando3792”way better” is odd considering they are literally in two different art styles 😅
Trust me, I don’t need it : every time I see a chap 2 seas 1 skin, I get a painful reminder that I missed the hidden skin and every style of every skin except the white one for 8ball.
I believe the actual reason why Epic games made Peter griffin buffed instead of his original design is because he would of been much shorter than the average skin hitbox, someone even did a concept of stretching his legs and arms to fit the scale and it looked awful.
But then why is the giant chicken the regular size? Hitboxes are a myth
@@Rhyciz actually they stretched out the chicken's legs 😂
@@Rhycizhitboxes are a myth??? huh???
The fix I’ve always believed is an “early access” kinda system. Like, have a tab in the battle pass screen that lets you access previous battle passes, but there’s like a 2 year delay or something, and you still have to spend 1000 V-bucks to access them. And if the can’t get the third-party licenses back, then there just isn’t a skin for that battle pass slot.
2 years? How about 6 months?
But other than that I wholeheartedly agree
@@ShoutyKid4684 I feel like most seasons last for 6 months. I agree that 6 months would be ideal, but I don’t think Epic would go for it. I feel like 2 years is a more realistic timeframe for the exclusiveness to still apply.
@@aparticularlydustedcoolran2448most seasons last for like 3 months
@@zoomedcheese you’re right, I over-exaggerated. I still think the rest of my comment is accurate.
@@aparticularlydustedcoolran2448 yea I agree
99% of live service games don't last as long as Fortnite has and that has just compounded the exclusivity problem. I think they will eventually bring back old battle pass stuff some day though we are probably still a few years away from that
but didn’t they guarantee the stuff wouldn’t return?
@@saber512i mean they promised save the world being free in 2019 and look where that is
@@saber512Ride the Pony was a Season 2 Chapter 1 emote from the free tier battlepass and yet, they gave it out for free to Save the World founders even if they didn't play for that long.
That means there's nothing prohibiting battlepass rewards to come back in the game's EULA.
@@saber512 no, they said that you wouldn't be able to get pass items outside of their respective passes. they never said passes themselves wouldn't return. it just means BP items don't go in the shop
Fortnite is nearly becoming a decade old, we really can not be having cosmetics in the game for 2 months 10 whole years ago just never returning
@@zerminecraftguy Well yeah obviously lol
@@zerminecraftguyI would love Marvel and dc I wasn’t playing then
@@zerminecraftguy Pretty sure the reason people want them to come back is because they want to use them lol, what kind of question is that?
@@chrispanico2276Yeah same here
@@Takahashi_TakedaYou'd think that but Fortnite has this crazy skin craze where people just want all skins just to have. Its why people wear rare items, its purely to show them off
Let's not forget that fortnite is more playable then ever for people that don't like battle royals or build mode, so people who missed out because they didn't like build mode or battle royal are more then likely mad at the exclusivity.
Im one of those people i started playing cuz they added korra but damn i started looking back and i missed out on some gems fr
I'm one of them I just started playing back in October Because of Michael Myers, I wasn't really a fan of the build mode of it but looking at it now there's some emotes and a couple skins I wish I could get but now that I've did my research I can pretty much tell that epic won't bring those emotes/skins back even if they charged vbucks for each individual item.
As someone who started playing a week ago, Exclusively playing no builds. Exclusivity is a good thing. That is the whole purpose of a battle pass. The players who have stuck around and supported the game for longer, are rewarded for it. The only thing i disagree with is collab skins in the battlepass.
@@DatAngryMelon the whole purpose of a battle pass is to keep players engaged with the game along with new content for the battle royal, also how is having battle passes become permanent be a bad thing, all the new players would still have to unlock the old skins in the battle passes plus they would have to buy it, maybe they should make it so people can get the old battle passes but there's no free v-bucks, or if people really care about showing off how long they supported a game of all things "i'm sure epic really cares"🙄, how about they add a date on when you earned that skin, or keep the bonus skins/crew skins out of the old passes. The thing is fortnite has alot of nice skins and emotes that are locked behind the battle pass and I think it's time to start giving the old passes away so new players can play as there favorite characters or use there favorite emotes.
yeah and especially with how fortnite plans to keep going for a long time, there are people gonna be playing the game soon who werent even alive when some of these guys were avaliable
that is actually wild that you predicted the groot skin as it just released in the item shop the day im typing this
and yet its a pack skin that once again will be gone forever.... ;-; -_-
@@kolonelwolf2449He’ll be arguably available longer since it’s in a pack
@@kolonelwolf2449😂
@@kolonelwolf2449 packs have come back before, like the Joker and Batman bundles
@@elmizzox You mean the bundles for money and not vbucks?
Let’s be honest the only reason why they’re keeping it exclusive is because of the people that have a fueled ego about their skin being rare
they don't care about those people, nor do they care about new players, they just care about getting them all hooked in their fomo battle pass system.
Nope
It is because people will keep on purchasing BPs in order to get their favourite skins.
If they are to re release previous BP skins, it would be a great short term strategy but a disastrous long term one. That is why the haven't done it yet.
I really want this to happen since I missed out on a lot of C3 and C1 BP items.
FR they acted like they own the skins
@@aiqldI mean epic could still make money out of it, no doubt if they resell old bp skins, original and licensed, they’ll get money out of it
11:32 Fun fact: John Wick was going to be in the Season 9 Battle Pass, or atleast there was going to be a way to purchase the Battle Pass with him as a Bonus. It was leaked by HYPEX in a string at the start of that season.
Just because it was leaked doesn't mean it's always 100% true. Like come on, we literally just had to learn this again with the hand event bro.
@@himarisuzuki5208the Hand event was true, epic delayed it to spite the leakers
@@himarisuzuki5208Stuff that's in the files is undeniable of being true though. The John Wick collab wasn't even fully added at that point, it was one of the first things regarding it to be leaked.
@@isacpstreets2661 except they didn't? There was no mention of lava or steam coming from the cracks in the leaks. I highly doubt it was something epic added last minute to "spite the leakers".
@@isacpstreets2661 no it was not dalayed leakers just wrong calculate, they calculate eartquakes not lava earthquakes (sorry for my bad english 💀)
Honestly the best thing they could do to fix the battlepass without pissing somebody off is to just let you complete previous battlepasses that YOU paid for. That way OG skins can stay rare while also letting people finish the pass at their own pace. It'll still keep the fomo aspect for epic since once the season is up you can't purchase that pass anymore, but players with less free time or wonky schedules can still complete it and get the rewards they paid for. If you really want people to be able to obtain the previous seasons' skins then the best way to do that without pissing one side off is to steal from valve yet again and add an in game trading feature. The supply of old skins stays the same, new players can access them, and epic could charge like 100 vbucks per transaction or something, everybody wins, except Epic's legal and IT departments who have to implement the system and all of the headaches that would come with it.
I agree with this comment
Oh cool so BPs from like early Ch1 that I did play but couldnt buy due to lack of income would just be unavailable despite the fact I play fortnite atleast twice a week nowadays
No, it should be any battlepass you had XP progress [Level 2 or higher] in you should have an option to buy & complete it.
Also Fortnite would never have a trading system. People used Account Merging as a trading system back when it was still around and all it did was cause headaches. Ever since then, Epic has actively removed trading systems from games they purchased that still had them [Rocket League]
This is a very interesting comment, but I feel like it should only apply to the normal pass and non-super level bonus rewards, with the quest rewards and the not so secret skin, giving us some alternative quests like playing a creative map with the necessary items in there... unless if that colab is very strict within their colabs to have their mythics stay longer than the contracted time.
All things aside, I could get Grogu in the one singular season I didn't get lvl 100 in, C2 S5. I doubt if this does happen, that it would happen to C1 passes, especially with the seasons like 9 with their fortbytes, and also OG covered those
@@betabee1221there would be a lot of issues with that. It sounds like the Halo Infinite thing, but you have to play during that time to purchase the pass. It seems unfair to people who payed the 10 USD for that pass for someone to buy it 5-6 years later for a slightly lower price at 8.30-9 ish USD. I'm happy with what I got from my C1 pass days, it was free for me, and it feels more like an accomplished to obtain the skins back then compared to today's level system vs C1 teir system (also we don't need more C1 skin owners in the game, need a variety of skins for 5 year olds to cling onto, not the "The Reaper" skin)
What’s crazy is that the Marvel and DC battle pass skins are not that hard to replace. They are comic characters! Just like Daredevil, They can easily give Spider-Man, Superman (and others) comic like Cel-shading and put them in the shop. That’s just my idea tho.
well that or an alternative form of that character
Or just use like for example instead of comic book superman we have Henry cavil or like instead of rebirth raven just give us the classic one from the old teen titans comics the one in purple
I need a Andrew, Tobey or Insomniac's Spider-Man as replacement for classic Spider-Man(Tom doesn't count he doesn't looks classic enough)
Respect your opinion but the Final Swing suit from NWH begs to differ (I really love how the blue is shiny and the symbol is as good as Tobey and Andrew's)
Heck, there’s the Spectacular Spider-Man suit, the Insomniac Games’ suits for both Pete and Miles (Don’t put the Evolved suit though that one is garbage) and even then that’s one of many other suits you can put in FN! As for Venom though, we already have classic and movie in the shop before, so why not add the Insomniac version too?
Absolutely genius idea. Epic hire this person
For Eren it shoulda been his older self version in season 4 and as well his titan forum
Nah, I'm glad they chose the season 1 version, season 4 is trash and boring
i must say that if they just sold the battle pass skins in the shop i think that this would be worth for the epic. When you buy the battle pass you use 1000 vbucks for 7 skins + secret, so if they put those skins from the bp but with the regular price like 2000 for legendsry 1500 for epic and on and on, this would also make profit i think and it would make buying the battle pass even more worth cuz you get more skins for half the price of a single one
EXACTLY. and on top of that they can still make stuff like the superstyles exclusive to the bp so they get something extra still
Exactly my idea. Everybody there makes a profit
@@Nelux80 what
@@Nelux80Not everyone makes a profit lol, but everyone benefits
People who buy the battlepass just get the skins discounted while new players have to pay $20 to have them in the shop
Gotta love that epic mostly invalidated this video by just making battle pass skins return😂😢
Only for future battle passes but still it’s not worth waiting 18 months to buy 1 skin from that battlepass for 1500 when you can’t just buy the battlepass for 950 and get 1500 for finishing it
This is what I think: Keep the battle pass as it is but let the colab skins also be released in the item shop when the season starts or later in the season
Would there still be battle pass collabs tho?
@@AsaDaNerdYes I think the colab could be in the battle pass and the shop
@@AsaDaNerdthink of it like this: the skin is in the battle pass but shows up in the item shop. If you already have the battle pass you would be unable to buy it because you would get it anyway. But if you buy the skin then want to buy the battle pass it could be at a reduced price because you already have a chunk of the pass unlocked.
they should just release it in shop a few months later
I feel like many other people believe that making Battle Pass skins be Battle Pass skins and nothing else, creates a sense of rarity. It makes players feel like they have a "relic" of sorts. Like a trophy, showing they've been there since the battle pass's release.
And if they remove the exclusivity many players might quit, cause I know these people only want these skins cause they’re rare
@@zerminecraftguy but in the end, Fortnite won't last forever. So those rare skins will lose value when Epic Games shut down Fortnite somewhere in the future.
It will happen. I give it about 5-7 more years.
@@kush7138 the game will die sooner if they remove exclusivity from skins
@@zerminecraftguy it wont last a year if they bing them back
so youre saying that in like 5 years when fortnite is still alive that the new kids playing who werent even alive back when darth vader was in a bp should just never be allowed to have him? if anything releasing old bp skins brings way more people in. people come to play the game when characters they like are added, release deadpool again and people will come to play as him@@zerminecraftguy
Sure battle passes are flawed but they’re also much more consumer friendly than loot boxes or pay to win, the 2 previous norms. Really shows if we keep pushing back things will only get better.
This comments section makes me feel sane. I swear every time the discussion of bringing back skins that are assumed to be gone forever comes up, im torn to shreds for being supportive of it (despite spending hundreds to complete battle passes that i wanted to)
Some skins within those Battle Passes were so amusingly designed and fun that it feel sad to seem them lost forever behind an exclusive wall...half the people who own said skins dont really use them or enjoy them, they just have them as trophies and thats it...just something on the shelve, never to be taken out and that to me its sad because there were so many i would've loved to have such as Lt John Llama, Deadpool and Meowscles.
While the other varients are in a sense a...compromise...for those who couldn't get the originals, its just...i would've prefered the original concept than a replacement...just because you give me the same coat in a different color, doesn't mean i'll like the color.
Who’s gonna tell him he told us the future 💀
15:57 bro predicted the future
Yoooooooooo
And good thing he did
Cuz the skin in game looks amazing
What's crazier
Is when the video came out it was chapter 5 season 1
And it came out in chapter 5 season 2
Maybe marvel saw this video and said hell yea
And contacted epic to have the
Skin in game
Are Epic contractually obligated to keep Battle Pass skins exclusive? Is there a legally binding contract that demands Epic keep these skins exclusive, lest they face legal repercussions? If the answer is no, then there is a chance Epic could bring back old Battle Passes or Battle Pass skins, no matter how slim said chance is. Their bottom line would need to suffer first, though.
People bring up that its against the tos but that's not true at least not anymore they changed it in season x
During chapter 1 they tried to bring back a dog backling from a bp to the shop by doing a very slight recolour and some people of the comunnity lost the shit, so they removed it from the game and didn't try it again ever since. Since then with the crew skins they removed the text saying it is exclusive, and stated they could return at any moment in the future, but if they haven't done it yet is probabbly because fear of backlash
The "muh og skin, muh exclusive" people
they are under zero legal obligation to keep them exclusive and can do whatever they want lol. and all these arguments which people make about "false advertisement" lawsuit is just a funny coping because no butthurt kid whose skins lost their exclusivity is gonna win against a billion dollar company. on top of that these companies always leave loopholes in their policies so they wont be cornered up with them in the future. mad kids wont be able to lawsuit and they wouldnt win against epic even if they legally could sue them.
FUTURE BATTLEPASSES CAN RETURN TO THE ITEM SHOP AFTER 18 OR MORE MONTHS
“The Prowler, which is a skin I bet you forgot was in the game”
Me:*has prowler as my main skin*
A little Metal Gear knowledge for you. In MGS 5 that is Venom Snake. Unlike the the other Big Boss Clones (Solid, Liquid, Solidus), he is only a mental copy of Naked Snake aka Big Boss. He went through brainwashing and cosmetic surgery to experience all of Big Boss’s missions in order to take on the role of Big Boss. The first time Solid Snake ever killed Big Boss was actually Venom Snake. So the clones/copies of Big Boss/Naked Snake are Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, and Solidus Snake. Solid Snake being the dominant clone (even though he had the inferior genes). Liquid having the the Dominant genes. Solidus being the perfect copy of Big Boss (no change to his dominant or recessive genes). It’s kinda confusing but I say all that just to say I think Raiden was supposed to be the replacement but other than him I’d like to see Naked Snake from MGS 3 Snake Eater
The thing with a naked snake skin is that the because they gave solid a beard the only differences other than the sneaking suit would be no bandana or an eyepatch which is kinda limited in its scope
It should still be possible to unlock rewards from passes you had already purchased and missions when a season ends by just paying an amount of vbucks and only progressing in them after reaching level 200 in the current season, being able to select only one at a time and only being able to go to the next one after completing what you started to unlock the remaining rewards.
You make a lot of good points. One major issue I’ve been noticing with the Item Shop is that there isn’t a good rotation of skins. Like, most of the skins were recently in the shop within the past 30 Days.
I would love to see a more aggressive rotation in the shop. As in, no skin should ever be out of the shop for more than a year. I’m a bit more lenient with collaboration skins as maybe there are some weird contract stipulations that prevent Epic from re-adding them.
Great vid!
I think the best way they could do it is to make the battle pass purchasable forever and the quest refresh each battlepass
A comic version on carnage would actually be cool
This aged like fine wine
I think the reason why we don’t have normal Peter Griffin isn’t because of the hot box, but for the proportions. The reason why proportions matter is because of animations. I feel like a faithful Peter model would have many clipping issues whenever you use emotes, open doors, crouching, climbing, sprinting, etc. The reason Ernie was fine was for starters his legs wouldn’t have any issues, his proportions could be tweaked without it feeling off to the character’s design. Peter being tweaked to fit into Fortnite would look off.
the way id fix it is to bring back only lore important characters, such as peely, and collabs, which can be anything from a bonus challenge collab to a random tier to even the tier 100s. then, id give all the OG owners an extra style, like purple skull trooper. dont make the collab extra styles related to that characters lore, do smt fun like a reverse color themed spider man
why dont they just make a feature that if you bought a battle pass before, you should be able to unlock it at a later season with battle stars
Fortnite should add a feature where every season there are two battle passes, the one for the season and another for a previous. The catch out is that you can only own one until you reach level 100 or 200 so it gives epic more money and playtime since people will be rushing to finish one battle pass to gain the other
Dude predicted the Deadpool movie skin
Maybe instead it would be cool if you could finish previous battle passes you didn’t complete but still bought
Yes
And if you had an epic account during a season you can purchase it
And maybe if you had an account for a majority of a chapter you can purchase the passes that you did not have an account during for that chapter too
I’m kinda mixed on the whole thing. I think epic should put battlepass skins in the item shops eventually, but rarely
Personally I think it should only be collab skins
@@nameless.artist1513yeah, same here
I'm just gonna repeat my fix. Use the underutilized fortnite crew as a quick fix. Crew already has account tied features so they can read your locker and pass to save progress when the season ends. All they need to do is each season let you pick a second pass to grind and give you double stars until you complete it.
Solution:
Get in battlepass = early access to all new stuff for that season for 950 v bucks + some hard work
All skins and cosmetics come to the item shop after that season ends for normal shop prices.
That way, people who buy the battlepass can get them earlier, for cheaper, while people who only want a couple things can wait and just buy that. For those who wait, it would be more expensive to get all of what was in the battlepass that way though, so it would depend on how much you want, and how much time someone has that they can work on the battlepass.
That's how I'd fix the battlepass system.
No that is not solid snake
Stop impersonating him!
I think that brawl stars made an awedome BP system. The rewards in BP can be bought with gems and after 1 year of the BP releasing you can buy them in the shop. That way they can sell BP for 950 vbucks, get everyone to grind it out and after a period of time sell the skins individually for the price of the rarity. That way players can get skins cheaper and epic gets a lot of people playing and players can buy skins that way epic gets a chunk of money
A lot of younger players will never be able to get some of the older skins due to be not olde enough or not even born yet which is why they should let people do older battle passes
As someone who regularly plays fortnite and has a lot of the cosmetics I think it is so dumb that people can’t get skins I own such as classic Spider-Man, Lara Croft, Superman, Vader, and so on. I’m not someone who wants things to stay exclusive. One thing halo infinite does VERY well is that battlepasses and current event passes are not time gated.
Eren should have the season 4 style, definitely
For a Solid Snake alternative that's still Solid Snake
The outfit he had on when going by the codename Iroquois Pliskin in mgs2 would be the perfect choice considering that they went with the mgs2 design for Raiden
The Iron Man replacement skin I would choose is Tony Stark, based on his appearance in any MCU movie before Age of Ultron,/Mark 42. Imagine the suit up emote.
The only tier 100 skin I really had a problem with missing was spider-gwen because im a big spiderman fan and literally have every other spiderman skin except her so its a real bummer that they drop a heat skin for one of the worst seasons
My friend and I believe that what Epic should do is add a feature where you can choose a skin from a previous Battle Pass and set it as a Bonus reward at level 101.
As a Fortnite enjoyer and long time player, I completely agree, not because I missed most if not all of Chapter 2 after CH2 SE2’s epochal of delays, but as a returning player who got the got all the battle passes since CH3 SE4.
I completely agree and hope epic does this, like that clip of the player getting stuck in between the tree’s “if Epic still has a heart” they’d listen, but who knows it’s a million dollar company
Great video man! Keep it up 👍 ❤️
This is why Brawl Stars did it best with the catalog feature with it's skins
The fact that they just give us reskins after a year of the battlepass being released is literally perfect
Epic just put an expiration date system for battle pass items where they are no longer exclusive and will return to the item shop. I think it's like 8 months after the battle pass ends.
Where’d you get 8 from 💀
For Eren, it should be his season 4 appearance. I feel like thats kind of a no brainer bc im shocked it wasnt a style for him in the battle pass 😂
The main problem is just the culture around exclusive items in the game and the people who insist that items should remain exclusive purely because they either want to resell or get some sense of superiority from owning a rare item. In all honesty I would be fine with them keeping certain skins battle pass exclusive for like a season before reselling the base skin. Whether or not they keep the special styles from the pass exclusive I don’t care (for clarity I mean the non overtime skins overtime is fair to keep exclusive). Though skins overall from the pass are a better deal in my eyes as you can get skins for years on end for the price of about one rare or epic skin. Like I said though offering up the base styles of the skins in the shop should be fine.
This system pisses me off. I like saying “I’m am rich” but they could maybe make sort of a reskins or something.
right like the least they can do is release reskins of battle pass characters 🙁 i’m still mad i missed out on og meowscles
@@swtpeachithey have reskinned meowscles. They have toon meowscles, and Halloween meowscles. Kitt, katt, and the tropical meowscles are also pretty similar
@@frogcatdogTo be fair, Purradise Meowscules is also a battle pass skin
kitt is bp, katt is crew both will be unavaliable soon@@frogcatdog
Honestly a big money idea for epic would be a restart chapter where it re goes through all the seasons battle pass inclusion, that way people can relive og and the people who want og skins for themselves, it would boost their player rate and income from everyone buying battle passes, now instead of doing months maybe it could be every like four weeks or so, OR do a new game mode with that and new seasons as well
I have always said this on how to solve the FOMO problem: You get to be eligible to purchase a Skin/emote/etc. from any battlepass but only once per year, kinda how some Gacha games do it on their anniversaries, Epic would get an extra buck, People would get their most desired skin stuck in an old BP after so long, the "mUh EXcLuSIve" people might get butthurt, but c'mon you also get to choose something.
I was gonna say anything from the store too once per year but feels more extreme, I feel the longest wait on Shop skins are more rare than BP's skins and Epic would like to still keep a sense of Fomo on their store (also they wouldn't be on board everyone and their mother go and choose problematic skins they dont re-release for reasons).
I think if they wanted to bring old battle pass items into the shop, they could do something similar to purple skull trooper which allows people who "had it og" to show it off!
I started chapter 3 season 1 and missed out on alot. I was locked out my xbox for 3 seasons and missed those battle passes and didnt even have time to 100% the spiderman battlepass. I honestly wish epic would do something like call of duty mobile where if you buy the battle pass you can still work.on it even after that season has ended. It would make people happy and they wouldnt lose money because they're just adding in already existing battlepasses that were already out.
Personally I think Peter Griffin should have had the roadhouse Peter as a selectable style, because Peter was buff during the roadhouse episode
The problem is that it is not just about skins. Wraps, emotes, pickaxes, gliders, even banner icons all come into play. We can now buy Swole Groot, but will we have his wrap and glider? Nope... Also it's not just battle passes, there have been LTMs and Seasonal events, that include items players are missing out on. It's ridiculous that you can't even get a plain black wrap, because they decided to name it Boogeyman, and tie it in with John Wick. They need to follow in the footsteps of 343, and allow players to purchase old passes/events. Halo Infinite did not initially work that way, but 343 changed things. So why can't Epic?
So I love the idea of the previous battle pass system, but I also see the direct opposite being practiced in Deep Rock Galactic, they have a free battle pass with cosmetics and skins/ weapon skins colors gear items etc. The way they handle the system is that once a season ends, the entire battle pass goes into the games loot pool, you can get matrix cores through weekly challenges, when playing a normal game you can often find extra events which are bonus games/ challenges within the level, when successfully completing these challenges you get to pick from three items, an armor piece, a weapon power up, or weapon cosmetic, after you choose one you can use in game earned currency and materials to craft the item. I could see them adding these challenges to Fortnite as Battle Royale challenges within the matches where when doing the challenge it makes a siren go off attracting players to the area. But you have to complete the challenge while fending off the people trying to third party it. At the end you could earn the old defunct Battle Bucks through playing the game in general, plus beating certain challenges/ briefings, bounty board etc you earn battle bucks to craft the skins, emotes, pickaxes, gliders etc etc. They could even host events for certain pass skins etc to drive players to fight for the skin or vbucks.
Iron man was the only skin I could’ve ever wanted, I did not complete that season because life happened, in the end I got iron man zero and I agree it does not serve as a good replacement despite the arguably fairly cool design
My cousin just got into the game last week, (the end of season 1)
And missed out on Peter Griffin, his fav show is Family Guy.
I had to break it to em that they never come back. :(
He was like…
"Oh well I saw Vader in the game, maybe I can get him if Fortnite does something for May 4th"
💀
A nice way to have Epic benefit people and keep making good money, continue their old battle passes or those they don't have, by upgrading the Fortnite Crew to unlock the passes, but they can only be unlockable when the subscription is active. So you just complete the pass before the subscription ends or gonna have to continue paying $12 plus tax for them :)
I missed out on getting my favourite Fortnite skin of all time Doom Slayer and the fact he is never coming back is upsetting
Apparently, Epic didn't have the funds at the time to give Peter Griffin his actual body. Which is why he looks buff in-game.
I dont mind not being able to buy old battepasses, i just dont want them to expire
I think the best solution is to give you every tiers items at the end of a season if you’ve bought the battle pass, but offer extra perks if you level up to get them instead of just punishing people for not having to grind all the levels
What I would prefer is that if you bought a battle pass in the past, you can complete it in the future, just new players can’t get it
i feel like if they were to release battlepass skins in the item shop they should give the original owners of the skin a bonus style similar to skull trooper
The problem in that is the fact there is over 100 battle pass Skins that would need a style then
If you bought the bsttle pass from an earlier season, but didnt complete it, if you have completed the current battlepass you should be able to choose which battle pass you would like to finish if you bought multiple and didnt finish them
The biggest reason that they are keeping this system is because people now use old lockers as if they're a trophy case
Replacement skins is ultimately just a bandaid to the issue of FOMO, sure it solves the problem for short term but not indefinitely.
I wouldn't put it past Epic to take a gamble and conjure a way to obtain old BP's in the future since Epic is known for taking big Gambles like Zero builds or shutting down the entire game just to stay relevant.
I personally think it's inevitable since more games like Helldivers 2 will pop out with high popularity.
I just had a debate about this and that they should bring back collab battlepasses/just plain old battlepasses and have them priced at a higher value for people who missed out on them because of reasons. The only argument I ever got was “should have played before”, when I have already been playing this game for as many years as it’s been out. I just think collabs shouldn’t be in battlepasses when the only reason they are there is to get more sales on it and being able to give an accurateish idea of how much guaranteed revenue from it being in the battlepass will be.
If they do ever think of adding battle passes back I think that fortnite should add them in the shop after 2 years after its release and make it half the price of what it would actually costs if it wasnt a battle pass. And to keep the exclusivity the people that buy it wont get the bonus styles, they will only get the rewards normal styles and rewards. So they wont get the secret skin but fortnite could sell it seperately in the shop as a quest pack. Also it wont give v bucks and they still have to complete the weekly quest for the rest of the rewards
I think any of spidey’s movie designs would work well
there’s so many skins i wish i could get, having an option to go back and buy certain ones even at an induced price would be nice
I doubt they will do movie mistique because I don’t think they want a naked blue lady running around especially now that they’re trying to make the game more kid friendly for some stupid reason
I say release collab skins in the shop, except you can’t unlock the super styles (those rainbow styles you get for level 200).
I love the examples you gave to some of them but here's some that i'd also give some:
-Doom Slayer (Doomicorn)
-Spider-Man (Insomniac, Peter B (Spiderverse (it'd be cool if they gave him his robe))
-Rick Sanchez (Rick Prime)
-Iron Man (War Machine (I know it's a different character but eh)
-Peter Griffin (Micheal Bay Peter Griffin)
I personally think this would ruin the entire point of buying a battle pass. If any battle pass I buy is still available in the future, I wouldn’t mind missing out. Because I WOULDN'T be missing out. In my mind, the battle pass would just be an early release of all the cosmetics contained inside. Why would I grind for an early release when I could just wait and buy it without the hassle of completing challenges? It’s not like I care for most of the skins anyway. I missed a lot of the old battle pass skins. I wish I had them sometimes. But I know that the game would be less enjoyable if there is no incentive to play.
I actually like the idea of Epic doing an option to gain access to past Battle Pass seasons for those who missed out!! I hope they do this!!
Deadpool, Superman, Darth Vader & Peter Parker are the most iconic recognised icons in any media available and it just sucks they are locked up
Tho with the Disney x Fortnite collab, I can see Disney wanting to bring these back, there is no way Disney will agree with Epic locking those skins away since those characters will make them both the most money
Those idiots who think its fine to miss out on BP content are toxic & fake fans!!
I definitely wanna see old BP skins/content come back
Its easy money & a win win!!
Yo shout outs to Groot! He got a replacement skin recently! Very happy 😊
Also for Superman, maybe they could add a cell shaded version from the "My Adventures With Superman" tv show that came out fairly recently. I heard it did really well and is getting a second season, so it'd probably be a decent option.
I hope epic sees this
I would love to see any of the spider-man characters get skins for they’re designs from the recent insomniac series
Actually, they do sometimes release these "mini" battle passes, like the jjk or dbz ones, that get added to the shop later
Yeah but he’s not talking about those is he
I personally think my idea works well and still keeps fomo, battlepass reruns, each season as you level up you get rewards, as you know, but what if you could pay extra to gain extra rewards from older season, each season having a side season
A trading system that lets players trade skins and cosmetics could be a solution that helps players get a chance to grab some skins they missed while also maintains the exclusivity on Epic's part. It's sort of like how Pokémon traders would trade different Pokémon. Say you're a DC fan but not a Star Wars fan... You could trade a Darth Vader for a Superman if you missed that. This way, the number of unlocked battle pass skins remains the same, and players can keep sharing skins among them to complete their dream collection.
5 months later and battle passes are no longer exclusive
Yup
Wooooo!!!
Almost like you predicted the new Groot skin
Having skins gatekept behind a battlepass from up to 6 years ago is so dumb. Especially since this isn’t cs:go with an open player market, they aren’t real items and you can’t sell/buy them in a market so they have even less actual value. I think epic should just add all bp skins to the store at full price. That way people who did get the battlepass, got all those skins at only 10 bucks while people who missed it have to pay for them each at full price.
I love how you added the Zero Crisis Background Music!
As someone who is in the future they've added a young adult groot, a drax, and a mantis
They could just do what cod has done before, during cold war they sold previous battlepass skins in bundles so you could buy them
I just really want mando and grogu lol
Personaly, i think they could also do this a different way, especiallt for skins that cover all of the bases (mando)
They could re-release the skins, as they are, BUT have extra styles given to those who already have the skin (like skull trooper)
this way, they can get resold, but no one gets mad
They could also just sell the skins at regular price (like the mini passes) so the og owners get a deal, and they dont have to pay as much.
Im glad they just announced about them adding battle pass items to the item shop. They did this because of the Marvel season that just came out. they will not add old battle pass items, but they will with the new ones.
this video came recomended after i knew future battlepasses from absolute doom onward eill noy be exclusive afte 18 months 💀💀💀
I think Spidey should get the Rami suit.
It's not a traditional, natural occurring problem though. It's an artificial problem as a result of a company's unnecessary fear of resentment by 2% of the playerbase. Epic and other development studios choose to limit cosmetics to passes and other mid-season events. There's no technical or governmental limitation.
I think an ideal way is to allow a system that makes room for a passive grind while you work towards the current season's pass, but it's passive and doesn't expire. The "back" pass can also cost double the price of a standard pass but because it's a slower grind, you naturally funnel players into playing the game regularly, offering extra XP over the weekend or something. So even if they finish the pass 2/3 of the way in, it's "Oh yeah, I can get some extra XP in on my back pass so I can still enjoy the game" OR not even be obligated to rush it because progression for that pass is just slower, so as long as you paid, you will eventually get it.
It really just boils down to developers just being smart and putting their foot down. Games like Apex and Valorant don't mind you shoveling out +$150 for damn store bundles, why not get a consistent $20 from thousands of players for past cosmetics?
Why can they sell calamity in the item shop bro
The gold one sucks
Unfortunately Rocket didnt return for the Guardians pack. I guess they believed the BP back bling was too close to the MCU appearance...even though is Vol 3 design is way different. Id instead make Rocket a cel shaded 80s inspired style with the green suit.