Great video Charlie! I like this kind of hard/soft counter of heroes. You can put it on separate youtube playlist or HWC website. Keep up the good work!
I am finding Yasmine to be just so dam random. Sometimes you blink and she's slaughtered the enemy team. Sometimes she just sits there doing zero. It's very frustrating...
Depends on who she's fighting and who she's teamed with. I once used her to wipe a Aurora team by placing her in front, no tank, because the other team was high on AoE damage dealers. Balance her need to take damage and gain energy and your need to heal her before she dies
fire her manually. . if her first alt fires on a glass cannon, she'll 1-shot them. and once 1 or 2 glass cannons are down in the first 20 seconds or so it's REALLY hard for the opposing team to come back. . if you let her fire on a tank she's probably going to have to alt 3-4 times before they're dead, by which time the opposing glass cannons have already done a lot of damage to your team.
@@odnamsrazor2364 Yes. Yaz works best that way. With everything on Auto in the Arena, you have to set Yaz up based on the team line ups. Hopefully your team has enough depth to vary the line up.
You will also have the same with Iris not all the time will her soul split work and if you got a support buff from Corn or Martha if its possible even Nebula does have a few advantages she has her orb enhancement I have seen this do weird things and this can also fall on Yasmine too but its possible that it will not work.... It really depends if Yasmine can dodge it..... Maxing out something improves chances but also the logic still randomizes some of the moves.... It brings the odds up a bit but not enough to make a difference in the end.... Now
During the 6th Birthday event, I started gaining an appreciation for Corvus "altar". Against a team with AoE and repetitive damage, like Yaz's poison, he does some massive amounts of damage. Against AoE opponents, paired with Morrigan's healing and Army of Graven, all the little graven taking damage while the Altar is in play wipe heroes like Ginger, Galahad, Aurora, Cleaver PLUS the Graven can draw Yaz away from your main heroes (also works against Phobos, Arachne, Dante, and K'arhk) while multiplying the damage the Altar does.
What also looks to be happening in both fights that is pretty important is that Celeste uses her first skill and goes into healing mode just after Yasmine uses hers. Iris starts taking damage from being bitten and is the lowest health on the team. Then Celeste's healing orb heals Iris and more importantly it removes the poison leaving Iris brand new and ready to battle! You could make the case that it is Celeste that is countering Yasmine but having Iris expose her soul and preventing her from dodging is a big plus.
Horrible misleading ads, but mostly deaf Beethoven using bone transmission in the 18th/19th century - brilliant. Ads aside, great video as usual; At first I had hard time countering Yasmine (and still do sometimes) but your tips helped a lot, thanks!
Thanks for this point of view charlie.. I never thought about it.. but this doesn't work. I tried multiple times during manual testing to ult Iris when Yasmine comes in middle of attacking team. If Iris is not the target of Yasmine, then this trick works just fine, HOWEVER, when Iris herself is the target, there is no way she can expose the soul. I tried this multiple times. Yasmine paralysed Iris and she cannot move while Yasmine is attacking. One may counter this by saying that you need to time Iris Ult just before yasmine starts attacking Iris. In theory, this can work, but practically that window I SOOOOO small that Iris often exposes the soul of Enemy tank and not Yasmine when we try to use Iris ult right before yasmine attacks Iris.
@@harryravenclaw4302 i see. So Celeste needs to be in the team and that too in light form and then we need to time Iris's ult when yasmine attacks... Seems like a less fun counter to me
No, you're right. People here talk like it's easy to counter her. It's not, and Charlie talks in terms of "hoping for the best". Yasmine needs to seriously be nerfed.
The combination of Aurora+Celeste is really strong versus Yasmine by itself. Celeste often snipes Yasmine with her basic attack while Yasmine's ulting, and Aurora's dodge buff spam makes it hard for Yasmine to land hits, that combination by itself should beat Yasmine almost every time, dodge and crits have a lot of randomness to them so it's not 100%, but it's a very high percent. Iris is an interesting interaction but she shouldn't be needed to win that particular fight.
Timing is important if Iris is to be used as a counter to Yasmine. That isn't good in Arena since fight in there are set to automatic. Helios is still the most effective counter to Yasmine because his skill will work immediately as long as Yasmine uses critical hits. However, it’s still nice that Yasmine’s counters are increasing as she’s still one of the most popular and most used hero by most teams (at least in my server). Thanks for this video, Charlie.
I started hating Yasmine some time ago. My server is full of her and at lower levels I had hard time to beat her. Now my K'arkh is quite strong and I have chance against her but the trick with Iris is good idea. Thanks.
A skúsila si Heliosa? My server is full of her as well, so I run Helios in my main team. I stopped using my own Yasmine and Astaroth and went for Dante-Orion-Dorian-Helios-Martha. Best against stronger Yasmine+Galahad teams. Now I fear control effects and would like to go for Dante-Isaac-Sebastian-Iris-Dorian but still too many Yasmines there to exploit
@@matejathos3645 I don't have Helios leveled up. I will work on him sooner or later but Yasmine is not such a big problem now. Sometimes she gets lucky more often she dies. There are too many heroes to work on right now.
Andvari in mobile counters well, as Yasmine attacks with her first skill to the lowest armoured ally, and Andvari protects the lowest armoured ally with his 3rd ability, which mitigates Yasmine's attacks greatly
Dance of Death is supposed to paralyze the enemy Yasmine attacks so this doesn't seem like it should work. At mid levels Iris doesn't live past the first Dance of Death with out enough health & is almost always the first to get attacked since she hits every enemy.... Only works for high levels & only guild wars too. Helios & Corvus don't require timing.
You would need to activate Iris' ultimate as soon as Yasmine jumps on her, but before she actually paralizes her target. Unless, of course, Yasmine targets another hero, then Iris is free to use her ultimate anytime.
Whenever I have to counter the enemy Yasmine, I always use Phobos and his Trembling Hands attack which he usually targets Yasmine first which helped me in the Tower climbing grind levels or in the Arenas.
Will have to do that next time. Go into the battle with a full energy phobos. And just lay her out that way. It's just when she gets the ball rolling, she's difficult to stop.
merci pour l'info et felicitation Irwan Henry. si j'ai bien compris ce que tu as dit alors Iris pourrait contrer pas mal d'autres heros, cool. en tout cas j'ai bien fait de vouloir la mettre a niveau, encore merci Charlie pour ça et pour tes autres videos.
"Be careful what you wish for” sounds interesting!, I can't wait for her to get into the game. Thanks for making this game flexible and versatile as well as the heroes evolves and changes their role. Love this event
Not as consistent as Helios and/or Corvus it seems, but defly can work in certain situations [like, say, top tier adventures 12-13 under certain conditions]
I'm not sure if you have this info but for those of us not quite at the 130 Red level, please comment when appropriate to bring Iris into the Team. (In my case, my Phobos has better stats but eventually he will be replaced. When is that time?)
Yasmine isn't the only hero that Iris counters in this way. Two notable examples that I see a lot, as I run Corvus/Morrigan/Nebula/Iris/Martha as my new main team: Iris's ultimate can target Ziri and kill her while she's buried to regen health, and it can also hit Markus and kill him even though he's technically immune to damage otherwise -- somehow, Iris's ultimate bypasses the damage immunity from Markus and still shreds him. Also, additional suggestion: make Albus the patron pet for Iris. It doesn't do very much at first glance, but Seed of Destruction pulls health from everyone on the enemy team... as pure damage. Albus augments that quite nicely, and it makes Iris even more of a terror to tanks, Yasmine and Markus (and others) than she'd otherwise be.
knew that before, but I noticed today that judge in a no AOE team also counters Yasmine (petfez will love it ;-) ) - hit early yas, debuff himself and win in 1:1
With everyone and their families using Yasmine I'm glad there are many counter options. With so many counters for her, I'd be very pleased if people would stop using her completely.
@@cesararias7023 if Corvus is strong enough or Yas is weak, Yas will die soon. However, Corvus might die as well. I have Morigan so normally Corvus is still alive or at least Yas and Corvus die same time.
Great video Charlie! I like this kind of hard/soft counter of heroes. You can put it on separate youtube playlist or HWC website. Keep up the good work!
Nice in-depth observation of one fight, shedding more light on Iris and manual-fighting options vs. heroes, who change positioning. =)
I am finding Yasmine to be just so dam random. Sometimes you blink and she's slaughtered the enemy team. Sometimes she just sits there doing zero. It's very frustrating...
Depends on who she's fighting and who she's teamed with. I once used her to wipe a Aurora team by placing her in front, no tank, because the other team was high on AoE damage dealers. Balance her need to take damage and gain energy and your need to heal her before she dies
fire her manually.
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if her first alt fires on a glass cannon, she'll 1-shot them. and once 1 or 2 glass cannons are down in the first 20 seconds or so it's REALLY hard for the opposing team to come back.
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if you let her fire on a tank she's probably going to have to alt 3-4 times before they're dead, by which time the opposing glass cannons have already done a lot of damage to your team.
@@odnamsrazor2364 Yes. Yaz works best that way. With everything on Auto in the Arena, you have to set Yaz up based on the team line ups. Hopefully your team has enough depth to vary the line up.
You will also have the same with Iris not all the time will her soul split work and if you got a support buff from Corn or Martha if its possible even Nebula does have a few advantages she has her orb enhancement I have seen this do weird things and this can also fall on Yasmine too but
its possible that it will not work.... It really depends if Yasmine can dodge it..... Maxing out something improves chances but also the logic still randomizes some of the moves.... It brings the odds up a bit but not enough to make a difference in the end.... Now
During the 6th Birthday event, I started gaining an appreciation for Corvus "altar". Against a team with AoE and repetitive damage, like Yaz's poison, he does some massive amounts of damage. Against AoE opponents, paired with Morrigan's healing and Army of Graven, all the little graven taking damage while the Altar is in play wipe heroes like Ginger, Galahad, Aurora, Cleaver PLUS the Graven can draw Yaz away from your main heroes (also works against Phobos, Arachne, Dante, and K'arhk) while multiplying the damage the Altar does.
What also looks to be happening in both fights that is pretty important is that Celeste uses her first skill and goes into healing mode just after Yasmine uses hers. Iris starts taking damage from being bitten and is the lowest health on the team. Then Celeste's healing orb heals Iris and more importantly it removes the poison leaving Iris brand new and ready to battle!
You could make the case that it is Celeste that is countering Yasmine but having Iris expose her soul and preventing her from dodging is a big plus.
Thanks for this video. Having another way to take care of yasmine is awesome!
Great info Charlie.......Thanks
Thank you, Charlie.
Fun interaction, thanks for the shout-out Charlie
So I was not wrong when I dropped Amira at 24 and focused on my Iris , right ?
I am still trying to figure out Nightmares in Asgard
Good stuff Charlie. Thanks for the input.
There are so many Yasmines on my server. So glad you put this video out 👍
Horrible misleading ads, but mostly deaf Beethoven using bone transmission in the 18th/19th century - brilliant. Ads aside, great video as usual; At first I had hard time countering Yasmine (and still do sometimes) but your tips helped a lot, thanks!
Very interesting finding, thanks for sharing.
this video really helped me, like I said on the stream, I want to try Yasmine in my deck of heroes to see how are they going to do, nice video!
Thanks for this point of view charlie.. I never thought about it.. but this doesn't work. I tried multiple times during manual testing to ult Iris when Yasmine comes in middle of attacking team. If Iris is not the target of Yasmine, then this trick works just fine, HOWEVER, when Iris herself is the target, there is no way she can expose the soul. I tried this multiple times. Yasmine paralysed Iris and she cannot move while Yasmine is attacking. One may counter this by saying that you need to time Iris Ult just before yasmine starts attacking Iris. In theory, this can work, but practically that window I SOOOOO small that Iris often exposes the soul of Enemy tank and not Yasmine when we try to use Iris ult right before yasmine attacks Iris.
make sure celeste uses her purifying sphere over iris to remove paralysis.
@@harryravenclaw4302 i see. So Celeste needs to be in the team and that too in light form and then we need to time Iris's ult when yasmine attacks... Seems like a less fun counter to me
No, you're right. People here talk like it's easy to counter her. It's not, and Charlie talks in terms of "hoping for the best". Yasmine needs to seriously be nerfed.
Another Great stuff Charlie, Ty!
Great Video, another interesting team to put with Iris. Thank you again
Thanks Charlie. I been working on my Iris anyhow.
Thanks, Charlie.
The combination of Aurora+Celeste is really strong versus Yasmine by itself. Celeste often snipes Yasmine with her basic attack while Yasmine's ulting, and Aurora's dodge buff spam makes it hard for Yasmine to land hits, that combination by itself should beat Yasmine almost every time, dodge and crits have a lot of randomness to them so it's not 100%, but it's a very high percent. Iris is an interesting interaction but she shouldn't be needed to win that particular fight.
Timing is important if Iris is to be used as a counter to Yasmine. That isn't good in Arena since fight in there are set to automatic. Helios is still the most effective counter to Yasmine because his skill will work immediately as long as Yasmine uses critical hits. However, it’s still nice that Yasmine’s counters are increasing as she’s still one of the most popular and most used hero by most teams (at least in my server). Thanks for this video, Charlie.
Charlie you are the man. Keep up the great work!!
That was great! Thanks for the info!
Thank you, Charlie. Thank you, everyone :)
Iris counters Yasmine
I also often use Celeste to counter Yasmine
Thank you for the info !
Thanks Charlie. Nice tips
Grats Henry. Great video too Charlie
Great vid Charlie, thanks
thank you for all the help with hero wars,
Hi Charlie, always good advice
Iris can work, but can be a victim of Yasmine too. Timing decides
Great video as always Charlei!
Wow. This is really helpful; i like Iris, definitely will try her out.
Thanks Charlie.
A full cain patronage buffed yasmine is a pain . I will definately try this. TYVM for the Advice . :0)
Excellent Video!
I started hating Yasmine some time ago. My server is full of her and at lower levels I had hard time to beat her. Now my K'arkh is quite strong and I have chance against her but the trick with Iris is good idea. Thanks.
A skúsila si Heliosa? My server is full of her as well, so I run Helios in my main team. I stopped using my own Yasmine and Astaroth and went for Dante-Orion-Dorian-Helios-Martha. Best against stronger Yasmine+Galahad teams. Now I fear control effects and would like to go for Dante-Isaac-Sebastian-Iris-Dorian but still too many Yasmines there to exploit
@@matejathos3645 I don't have Helios leveled up. I will work on him sooner or later but Yasmine is not such a big problem now. Sometimes she gets lucky more often she dies. There are too many heroes to work on right now.
Andvari in mobile counters well, as Yasmine attacks with her first skill to the lowest armoured ally, and Andvari protects the lowest armoured ally with his 3rd ability, which mitigates Yasmine's attacks greatly
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very very useful video for me because i am currently playing on facebook and also using yasmine as a crit -dmg player
As f2p player I can only do so much. As you say, "asset management"
Thanks Charlie :)
Thanks ...
ty for the video Charlie
Amazing videos Charlie. Keep up the good content. Whoa Iris counters yasmine!!!
Iris is a great multi-situational hero! Great video, Charlie!
Great vids man!
Iris is a tool in the toolbox
Could Iris do this when arachne jumps??
Iris as a Jasmine counter is interesting but not compelling enough to me as a mid level player to level her up yet.
Thank you!
Dance of Death is supposed to paralyze the enemy Yasmine attacks so this doesn't seem like it should work. At mid levels Iris doesn't live past the first Dance of Death with out enough health & is almost always the first to get attacked since she hits every enemy.... Only works for high levels & only guild wars too. Helios & Corvus don't require timing.
You would need to activate Iris' ultimate as soon as Yasmine jumps on her, but before she actually paralizes her target. Unless, of course, Yasmine targets another hero, then Iris is free to use her ultimate anytime.
vale la pena el ticket dorado de la temporada de ascensión?
Wow! Awesome way to counter Yasmine, just when I thought Iris is useless for me... Btw great video Charlie!
How to get iris? I didn't took part in the previous event.
An interesting experiment. Planning on testing this tomorrow.
and ..how to beat jasmine at the low levels?
Any video, including the short ones like this?
Whenever I have to counter the enemy Yasmine, I always use Phobos and his Trembling Hands attack which he usually targets Yasmine first which helped me in the Tower climbing grind levels or in the Arenas.
Same
Will have to do that next time. Go into the battle with a full energy phobos. And just lay her out that way. It's just when she gets the ball rolling, she's difficult to stop.
I totally agree with this interaction.
Nicely done
I'm so glad I've been leveling up Iris! I've been having trouble battling against Yasmine!
dude
my team is
astaroth+iris+martha+dante+qing mao+fenris
is this good or bad
This is good to know for when I use yaz on offense!
great game...playing and watching your channel
merci pour l'info et felicitation Irwan Henry.
si j'ai bien compris ce que tu as dit alors Iris pourrait contrer pas mal d'autres heros, cool.
en tout cas j'ai bien fait de vouloir la mettre a niveau, encore merci Charlie pour ça et pour tes autres videos.
I have also noticed that since I have Iris I win/defend more often against Yas.
how to counter kark?
Good video and explanation
Thank you Charlie, Corvus or Helios counter Yasmine. Iris will do.
well done... very nice video
Sunny and 79 degrees in Kansas City. Ish!
"Be careful what you wish for” sounds interesting!, I can't wait for her to get into the game. Thanks for making this game flexible and versatile as well as the heroes evolves and changes their role. Love this event
but I can't copy this to my warfield.
Thank you, Charlie
If you start over, would you pick Helios o Iris?
Great question, probably Helios first but eventually I'd level up Iris to handle tanks!
using the same logic of yasmine being the farthest hero, would this mean iris is a decent counter to luther? since he jumps to enemy's back line?
Good thought--Her expose soul ability should work the same on Luther as Yasmine when either of them gets in your back line.
Maya kinda handles Yasmin a bit with the entangles and pure damage, any combo with Maya, Celeste, or Maya Helios
I have a 6* level 1 Iris, hmmm should I put her on the list to level up?
Not as consistent as Helios and/or Corvus it seems, but defly can work in certain situations
[like, say, top tier adventures 12-13 under certain conditions]
I wonder if Phobos on your team would also attack Yasmine?
Does it mean Iris can kill Jasmine faster than Helios ?
Will Iris ever be on mobile ?
I'm not sure if you have this info but for those of us not quite at the 130 Red level, please comment when appropriate to bring Iris into the Team. (In my case, my Phobos has better stats but eventually he will be replaced. When is that time?)
thanks
Interesting. Iris has seemed kind of squishy when I've met her in adventures - maybe she's worth working on after all :-D
Yasmine isn't the only hero that Iris counters in this way. Two notable examples that I see a lot, as I run Corvus/Morrigan/Nebula/Iris/Martha as my new main team: Iris's ultimate can target Ziri and kill her while she's buried to regen health, and it can also hit Markus and kill him even though he's technically immune to damage otherwise -- somehow, Iris's ultimate bypasses the damage immunity from Markus and still shreds him.
Also, additional suggestion: make Albus the patron pet for Iris. It doesn't do very much at first glance, but Seed of Destruction pulls health from everyone on the enemy team... as pure damage. Albus augments that quite nicely, and it makes Iris even more of a terror to tanks, Yasmine and Markus (and others) than she'd otherwise be.
Hey Charlie keep up the good work
knew that before, but I noticed today that judge in a no AOE team also counters Yasmine (petfez will love it ;-) ) - hit early yas, debuff himself and win in 1:1
Like the counter vids.
congrats henry
A strong Yasmine can still wreak havoc on opposing team if she is able to dodge attacks
i have been noticing she is a good counter to Yasmine, Actually I like Aurora-Celeste-Kai-Sebastian-Iris a lot more.
With everyone and their families using Yasmine I'm glad there are many counter options. With so many counters for her, I'd be very pleased if people would stop using her completely.
So many counters? Really? Not the case in mobile.
Still like Corvus and Helios as Yasmine's counters. Celeste is also good.
Corvus not close to max will die as a tank, helios not maxed willl insta die to yasmine as she'll target him specifically, celeste is expensive to get
@@VTuber_Clipp3r I have not seen a Corvus dying before Yas dies yet. Even lower lvl Corvuses will take down Yasmine before finishing her ult attack.
@@cesararias7023 if Corvus is strong enough or Yas is weak, Yas will die soon. However, Corvus might die as well. I have Morigan so normally Corvus is still alive or at least Yas and Corvus die same time.
Iris is very strong. Especially next to Dorian... Yasmine is very popular, but has not bothered me too much on any of my accounts
im finding Celeste smashes Yasmin since Yas is usually rushing forward for ability attacks, thats when Celeste hits her hard when in dark form
This seems to require quite a bit of luck with timing. The biting skill does help against Yasmine, though.
Aurora, Maya, Celeste, Sebastian and Martha are a Yasmine killing machine!
Sweet ty